1 00:00:06,080 --> 00:00:07,464 Welcome to Heaven Earth Church. 2 00:00:07,512 --> 00:00:09,416 My name is Ross Stackhouse. 3 00:00:09,448 --> 00:00:12,680 I'm the founding pastor of Heaven Earth Church. 4 00:00:12,840 --> 00:00:16,632 From the beginning, our heart was to be a church for people who 5 00:00:16,656 --> 00:00:18,696 don't fit neatly into church. 6 00:00:18,888 --> 00:00:22,712 Our heart is to meet people where they are, to learn their stories, 7 00:00:22,856 --> 00:00:24,072 to honor their stories. 8 00:00:24,136 --> 00:00:27,568 Because in every human story is God's story. 9 00:00:27,744 --> 00:00:31,120 In this podcast, you'll hear more about the people who now call 10 00:00:31,160 --> 00:00:32,768 Heaven Earth Church home. 11 00:00:32,824 --> 00:00:36,800 Their stories, in many cases, of misfits who are discovering or 12 00:00:36,840 --> 00:00:38,096 rediscovering faith. 13 00:00:38,208 --> 00:00:41,808 If you want to know more about us, you can go to heavenorthchurch.org 14 00:00:41,984 --> 00:00:45,340 Otherwise, we invite you now into the story. 15 00:00:47,480 --> 00:00:48,448 Hello, good people. 16 00:00:48,504 --> 00:00:53,402 Brad Miller here, the producer of the Heaven Earth Church podcast. 17 00:00:53,576 --> 00:00:57,142 One of the main benefits of being a part of the Heaven Earth 18 00:00:57,206 --> 00:01:03,254 Church community is our Sunday morning conversations taught by founding 19 00:01:03,302 --> 00:01:05,850 pastor Ross Stackhouse. 20 00:01:06,430 --> 00:01:11,450 You can watch and participate in the Sunday morning conversation 21 00:01:11,790 --> 00:01:20,490 this Sunday morning, 9:30am Eastern time at YouTube.com heavenerthchurch. 22 00:01:21,190 --> 00:01:26,174 The audio version of the Sunday morning conversation is available 23 00:01:26,262 --> 00:01:31,118 here on the podcast, which you can find at Apple Podcasts, Spotify 24 00:01:31,294 --> 00:01:39,262 and on the website, which is heavenearthchurch.org Here now is 25 00:01:39,286 --> 00:01:45,450 Ross Stackhouse with part four of the Dead Man Walking series. 26 00:01:45,830 --> 00:01:50,370 What's any of this got to do with relationships? 27 00:01:51,650 --> 00:01:56,510 All right, let's have a prayer and then we'll have our conversation. 28 00:02:05,410 --> 00:02:06,910 Lord, hear our prayers. 29 00:02:07,970 --> 00:02:14,362 Hear the expressions of sorrow that are in our hearts. 30 00:02:14,506 --> 00:02:16,230 We lift those up to you. 31 00:02:22,720 --> 00:02:23,624 We celebrate. 32 00:02:23,672 --> 00:02:25,100 Roger and Laura. 33 00:02:28,640 --> 00:02:32,536 We don't know exactly how you act in the midst of our the concerns 34 00:02:32,568 --> 00:02:41,016 we raise, but reaching out in faith and hope that you do illuminate 35 00:02:41,048 --> 00:02:43,600 our minds, soften our hearts. 36 00:02:44,260 --> 00:02:46,280 Help us to hear something new. 37 00:02:47,060 --> 00:02:53,868 Help us to catch a glimpse of your glory in the name of Jesus, 38 00:02:54,044 --> 00:02:54,960 Amen. 39 00:02:56,580 --> 00:02:57,148 Hey. 40 00:02:57,244 --> 00:03:02,040 So when I say that word, it's a theme throughout this series. 41 00:03:02,900 --> 00:03:05,196 It's a big part of what we're doing in this series. 42 00:03:05,268 --> 00:03:13,514 Right now we're in a series called that Dead Man Walking. 43 00:03:13,562 --> 00:03:16,122 Why Jesus Died and why It Still Matters for Ordinary People. 44 00:03:16,226 --> 00:03:24,250 When I say the word glory, what thought or image comes to your 45 00:03:24,290 --> 00:03:24,870 mind? 46 00:03:34,130 --> 00:03:35,776 Yes, it is a good movie. 47 00:03:35,938 --> 00:03:42,080 It is anything that comes to mind. 48 00:03:43,020 --> 00:03:43,960 Happiness. 49 00:03:44,380 --> 00:03:47,480 Okay, Winning. 50 00:03:49,900 --> 00:03:51,748 Which the Boilers almost did. 51 00:03:51,804 --> 00:03:52,520 Josh. 52 00:03:54,540 --> 00:03:55,492 We were close. 53 00:03:55,596 --> 00:03:58,040 We were close to some glory that was unexpected. 54 00:03:59,260 --> 00:04:00,720 Maybe next year. 55 00:04:02,150 --> 00:04:08,050 Perpetually glory. 56 00:04:10,230 --> 00:04:10,970 Light. 57 00:04:13,590 --> 00:04:14,254 Wonder. 58 00:04:14,382 --> 00:04:15,570 Magnificence. 59 00:04:17,990 --> 00:04:19,010 Kara. 60 00:04:22,470 --> 00:04:25,490 Gloria Way brought up Purdue. 61 00:04:27,180 --> 00:04:30,720 I can sing the Purdue version of it if you'd like right now. 62 00:04:31,180 --> 00:04:33,720 My father taught me when I was a wee lad. 63 00:04:36,060 --> 00:04:38,004 My dad taught me many Good things. 64 00:04:38,172 --> 00:04:41,680 He also taught me some other things. 65 00:04:46,220 --> 00:04:47,240 Brightness. 66 00:04:48,620 --> 00:04:49,480 Yeah. 67 00:04:51,420 --> 00:04:57,890 Heavenly fullness or wholeness. 68 00:05:01,430 --> 00:05:02,770 Transcendent. 69 00:05:11,110 --> 00:05:11,934 Anything else? 70 00:05:11,982 --> 00:05:12,690 Glory. 71 00:05:20,370 --> 00:05:21,306 Something of God. 72 00:05:21,338 --> 00:05:22,390 Is that what you said? 73 00:05:22,690 --> 00:05:23,470 Yeah. 74 00:05:27,410 --> 00:05:28,986 I'm going to come back to that in a minute. 75 00:05:29,018 --> 00:05:30,410 We're going to swing right back to that. 76 00:05:30,450 --> 00:05:34,714 But I have to tell you about a dynamic that happens in our household. 77 00:05:34,762 --> 00:05:40,270 I'm sure this doesn't happen to any of you sometimes. 78 00:05:41,010 --> 00:05:44,550 Angela and I will be married 15 years in June. 79 00:05:44,850 --> 00:05:48,950 We've been together almost 22 years. 80 00:05:50,770 --> 00:05:51,162 I know. 81 00:05:51,186 --> 00:05:53,610 You're like, man, you guys have been together since you were 82 00:05:53,650 --> 00:05:54,266 like five. 83 00:05:54,338 --> 00:05:54,826 Ross. 84 00:05:54,938 --> 00:05:55,594 Yeah. 85 00:05:55,722 --> 00:05:58,710 Well, it's kindergarten on up. 86 00:06:01,650 --> 00:06:04,070 Sometimes we get in a fight. 87 00:06:04,850 --> 00:06:08,794 I know it's hard to believe a holy man like myself would ever get 88 00:06:08,802 --> 00:06:09,670 in a fight. 89 00:06:11,100 --> 00:06:14,020 And wouldn't you know that sometimes also when we get in a fight, 90 00:06:14,060 --> 00:06:19,828 a holy man like myself will sit in a room by myself and go, I'm 91 00:06:19,844 --> 00:06:21,380 not saying sorry first today. 92 00:06:21,500 --> 00:06:22,520 Not happening. 93 00:06:23,340 --> 00:06:23,796 No. 94 00:06:23,868 --> 00:06:25,240 That was her tonight. 95 00:06:26,300 --> 00:06:27,280 No way. 96 00:06:28,140 --> 00:06:28,644 Nope. 97 00:06:28,692 --> 00:06:29,840 She said this. 98 00:06:30,700 --> 00:06:33,012 That did not merit that kind of reaction. 99 00:06:33,076 --> 00:06:34,740 She needs to own up to it. 100 00:06:34,860 --> 00:06:35,640 Nope. 101 00:06:36,710 --> 00:06:38,890 Anybody got that going on in their life? 102 00:06:42,470 --> 00:06:43,850 I love it right now. 103 00:06:44,630 --> 00:06:45,690 Just me. 104 00:06:47,110 --> 00:06:48,574 And it's not just marriage. 105 00:06:48,622 --> 00:06:48,878 Right. 106 00:06:48,934 --> 00:06:50,094 It's in our friendships. 107 00:06:50,142 --> 00:06:50,730 Right. 108 00:06:51,590 --> 00:06:54,730 And for some of us, like, those conflicts go way back. 109 00:07:02,160 --> 00:07:04,056 I've had family situations. 110 00:07:04,168 --> 00:07:07,032 It's hard to imagine a holy man like myself holding grudges in 111 00:07:07,056 --> 00:07:08,180 my family life. 112 00:07:11,040 --> 00:07:14,040 I guess I'm revealing today that I'm just another dude, which 113 00:07:14,080 --> 00:07:15,940 I try to tell you all the time. 114 00:07:18,160 --> 00:07:21,336 But what I want to share to you with today, we're talking about, 115 00:07:21,408 --> 00:07:23,128 like, why did Jesus die today? 116 00:07:23,184 --> 00:07:27,890 I want to talk to you about this word reconciliation, which for 117 00:07:27,930 --> 00:07:34,626 some may be a word that you don't use a lot or it's not very 118 00:07:34,698 --> 00:07:41,170 familiar to you, but in case you needed some definition of what 119 00:07:41,210 --> 00:07:41,906 that word is. 120 00:07:41,978 --> 00:07:42,738 Nope. 121 00:07:42,914 --> 00:07:43,750 Nope. 122 00:07:44,810 --> 00:07:45,750 Yep. 123 00:07:46,890 --> 00:07:48,114 From Merriam Webster. 124 00:07:48,162 --> 00:07:53,670 It's to restore to friendship or harmony, to settle or resolve, 125 00:07:54,710 --> 00:07:57,650 to make consistent or congruous. 126 00:08:01,190 --> 00:08:03,630 And then if you. 127 00:08:03,750 --> 00:08:05,210 What in the world? 128 00:08:07,830 --> 00:08:10,462 It doesn't show that at all on my phone. 129 00:08:10,526 --> 00:08:12,170 What the heck is going on? 130 00:08:12,630 --> 00:08:13,502 I have no idea. 131 00:08:13,566 --> 00:08:16,446 Well, there's the Greek word for it, in case you wanted to know. 132 00:08:16,598 --> 00:08:22,070 You can't see the definition, but I have no idea what it's doing. 133 00:08:22,110 --> 00:08:22,690 That. 134 00:08:23,390 --> 00:08:23,814 Yeah. 135 00:08:23,862 --> 00:08:24,486 It's a secret. 136 00:08:24,558 --> 00:08:26,450 You got to figure out what that is. 137 00:08:28,990 --> 00:08:29,910 It means to. 138 00:08:29,950 --> 00:08:31,094 I got to read it in little fit. 139 00:08:31,142 --> 00:08:35,222 To transfer from a certain state to another, which is quite 140 00:08:35,286 --> 00:08:35,890 different. 141 00:08:37,790 --> 00:08:42,550 To transfer from a certain state to another, which is Quite 142 00:08:42,630 --> 00:08:43,250 different. 143 00:08:44,030 --> 00:08:46,170 Hence to reconcile. 144 00:08:47,880 --> 00:08:55,024 So, like, that verb shows up quite a bit to transfer from a certain 145 00:08:55,112 --> 00:08:57,500 state to another. 146 00:08:59,000 --> 00:09:01,904 So if you think about a relationship, like, if I approach 147 00:09:01,992 --> 00:09:06,816 someone and I say sorry, which for whatever reason is a terribly 148 00:09:06,848 --> 00:09:10,832 difficult thing to do for human beings, especially people who 149 00:09:10,856 --> 00:09:17,646 are in power, they're just putting that back up there to taunt 150 00:09:17,678 --> 00:09:18,250 me. 151 00:09:18,790 --> 00:09:21,530 These slides always get the best of me. 152 00:09:22,230 --> 00:09:24,850 We need to reconcile me and propresenter. 153 00:09:25,750 --> 00:09:27,250 God bless you, Emily. 154 00:09:27,830 --> 00:09:31,006 Emily's trying to reconcile me in the slides right now. 155 00:09:31,078 --> 00:09:33,090 You see, Restore it to harmony. 156 00:09:33,430 --> 00:09:38,110 But when you say sorry, it has a way of transferring the relationship 157 00:09:38,190 --> 00:09:41,030 from, from one state to another. 158 00:09:42,290 --> 00:09:48,202 Right now it doesn't promise it because you could say sorry and 159 00:09:48,226 --> 00:09:50,790 the other person could say, to hell with you. 160 00:09:54,290 --> 00:09:55,030 Right. 161 00:09:57,250 --> 00:10:02,122 So it doesn't necessarily transfer it from one state to another. 162 00:10:02,306 --> 00:10:06,294 But as they say in Alcoholics Anonymous, steps 8, 9. 163 00:10:06,462 --> 00:10:08,690 We're going to clean up our side of the street. 164 00:10:09,950 --> 00:10:10,690 Right. 165 00:10:11,230 --> 00:10:12,970 So you gave it your shot. 166 00:10:13,470 --> 00:10:13,926 Right? 167 00:10:13,998 --> 00:10:16,598 So we're talking about reconciliation today. 168 00:10:16,734 --> 00:10:18,450 So that's where we're going to hang out. 169 00:10:18,990 --> 00:10:21,478 But I've got to get back to this word glory. 170 00:10:21,574 --> 00:10:22,166 I promise. 171 00:10:22,198 --> 00:10:23,250 They go together. 172 00:10:23,630 --> 00:10:24,570 Okay. 173 00:10:25,550 --> 00:10:30,130 So do you see what this person's doing here? 174 00:10:31,000 --> 00:10:32,580 It is a bathtub. 175 00:10:34,360 --> 00:10:36,140 Anybody been doing that recently? 176 00:10:37,880 --> 00:10:38,660 Yeah. 177 00:10:39,560 --> 00:10:42,580 So there's this phenomenon called star bathing. 178 00:10:43,880 --> 00:10:45,152 Star bathing. 179 00:10:45,296 --> 00:10:47,780 I read an article about it on BBC. 180 00:10:48,200 --> 00:10:51,888 You can go to a star bathing retreat at, like an international 181 00:10:52,024 --> 00:10:53,420 dark sky Park. 182 00:10:55,560 --> 00:10:57,100 This one was in. 183 00:10:57,880 --> 00:10:59,296 I don't remember. 184 00:10:59,488 --> 00:11:01,020 But the. 185 00:11:01,560 --> 00:11:03,264 Obviously you can see the article. 186 00:11:03,352 --> 00:11:03,760 It's. 187 00:11:03,840 --> 00:11:07,056 Could a star bathing retreat calm your frazzled mind? 188 00:11:07,128 --> 00:11:08,672 If you look that up on BBC. 189 00:11:08,736 --> 00:11:11,340 Don't do it now because you're paying attention here. 190 00:11:12,520 --> 00:11:15,904 Could a star bathing retreat calm your frazzled mind? 191 00:11:16,072 --> 00:11:19,664 And I thought this was so fascinating that there was this whole 192 00:11:19,712 --> 00:11:22,624 article that was like, groundbreaking and earth shattering. 193 00:11:22,672 --> 00:11:26,020 Like staring at the stars could restore you to equilibrium. 194 00:11:27,230 --> 00:11:28,010 Wow. 195 00:11:28,910 --> 00:11:30,050 But it is. 196 00:11:32,110 --> 00:11:35,170 We don't pay attention as much. 197 00:11:36,670 --> 00:11:39,170 That's not a prisoner of the moment thing. 198 00:11:40,110 --> 00:11:42,070 Research shows it anecdotally. 199 00:11:42,150 --> 00:11:45,570 We are more distracted as a people. 200 00:11:45,870 --> 00:11:51,970 We are more looking down than looking up than ever. 201 00:11:53,770 --> 00:11:55,630 And it's destroying us. 202 00:11:56,410 --> 00:11:58,210 There's book upon book about it. 203 00:11:58,250 --> 00:12:03,042 The Anxious Generation is a popular book right now about how 204 00:12:03,066 --> 00:12:09,670 we're so engaged and addicted to, like, things like this and propaganda 205 00:12:10,010 --> 00:12:12,258 that's floating around on social media. 206 00:12:12,394 --> 00:12:16,790 We're so stuck in certain ways of thinking, worldviews, narratives. 207 00:12:18,660 --> 00:12:24,920 We're not seeing the glory, the glory of it all. 208 00:12:27,060 --> 00:12:30,320 I mean, it's an old, old idea, folks. 209 00:12:31,620 --> 00:12:32,840 Psalm 8. 210 00:12:35,860 --> 00:12:38,360 This is a star bather right here. 211 00:12:39,460 --> 00:12:46,292 A person's looking at this impossible cosmos and like going, 212 00:12:46,396 --> 00:12:49,636 what in. 213 00:12:49,788 --> 00:12:52,820 When this person was writing it, everything was an international 214 00:12:52,940 --> 00:12:54,320 dark sky park. 215 00:12:55,020 --> 00:12:56,560 The whole world was. 216 00:12:59,020 --> 00:13:02,948 But now there's light pollution everywhere. 217 00:13:03,044 --> 00:13:05,640 So you got to go somewhere to see the stars. 218 00:13:07,100 --> 00:13:09,668 What are human beings that you think about them? 219 00:13:09,724 --> 00:13:12,320 What are human beings that you pay attention to them? 220 00:13:13,330 --> 00:13:16,650 You've made them only slightly less than divine. 221 00:13:16,810 --> 00:13:18,150 Crowning them with. 222 00:13:20,450 --> 00:13:21,990 Crowning them with. 223 00:13:23,170 --> 00:13:24,430 And grandeur. 224 00:13:27,330 --> 00:13:28,090 It goes back. 225 00:13:28,130 --> 00:13:30,990 We had this series on the spiritual practice of wonder. 226 00:13:31,810 --> 00:13:35,470 Star bathing would be an example of practicing wonder. 227 00:13:36,930 --> 00:13:42,542 When you position yourself in a place to have great attention to 228 00:13:42,566 --> 00:13:47,854 the awe of God in a way that creates gratitude in you and enjoyment 229 00:13:47,902 --> 00:13:50,862 and also a sense of responsibility about what you have 230 00:13:50,886 --> 00:13:51,690 been given. 231 00:13:55,110 --> 00:14:00,990 And so today, like, I want to talk to you about how, like when 232 00:14:01,030 --> 00:14:05,810 I was studying and I have been studying this concept of salvation, 233 00:14:06,740 --> 00:14:09,004 like pouring over the New Testament. 234 00:14:09,052 --> 00:14:11,292 I keep telling you I'm going to share that document with you. 235 00:14:11,316 --> 00:14:12,240 And I don't. 236 00:14:12,820 --> 00:14:15,440 It's just a Google Doc with all these notes. 237 00:14:16,660 --> 00:14:20,668 I'm struck by how, like, I'm asking, like, some of our students 238 00:14:20,724 --> 00:14:23,720 are, like you asked, like, saved from what? 239 00:14:24,340 --> 00:14:26,492 What is God saving us from? 240 00:14:26,676 --> 00:14:27,548 And how. 241 00:14:27,684 --> 00:14:30,812 And as Brandon asks, why is death the mechanism? 242 00:14:30,956 --> 00:14:32,170 Why is blood? 243 00:14:32,340 --> 00:14:33,358 That's not this week. 244 00:14:33,414 --> 00:14:34,490 It's two weeks. 245 00:14:35,990 --> 00:14:37,534 So, Brandon, hang on. 246 00:14:37,622 --> 00:14:38,254 Okay. 247 00:14:38,382 --> 00:14:40,370 This week is reconciliation. 248 00:14:41,430 --> 00:14:47,330 When I poured over that this concept of reconciliation is everywhere, 249 00:14:48,390 --> 00:14:56,450 that somehow Jesus life and his death restore things to harmony. 250 00:14:58,080 --> 00:15:02,100 It transfers us from one state to another. 251 00:15:04,160 --> 00:15:07,576 And when I looked at the Bible, it wasn't just about. 252 00:15:07,728 --> 00:15:13,900 It transfers you, Heather, from going to hell to going to heaven. 253 00:15:16,320 --> 00:15:18,664 No, back to that in a minute. 254 00:15:18,712 --> 00:15:19,304 Our formula. 255 00:15:19,352 --> 00:15:20,260 Remember that? 256 00:15:22,160 --> 00:15:27,002 When I read it, it's that everything is just all over the Bible. 257 00:15:27,066 --> 00:15:30,990 That everything is made to reflect the glory of God. 258 00:15:32,130 --> 00:15:35,162 Everything is made to reflect the glory of God. 259 00:15:35,226 --> 00:15:36,390 Say it with me. 260 00:15:36,770 --> 00:15:41,390 Everything is made to reflect the glory of God. 261 00:15:43,170 --> 00:15:44,230 Say it again. 262 00:15:44,610 --> 00:15:48,990 Everything is made to reflect the glory of God. 263 00:15:50,940 --> 00:15:54,600 When I think of glory, I think of all the things that you've mentioned. 264 00:15:55,100 --> 00:16:00,452 I think of this impossible, transcendent light, like what the 265 00:16:00,476 --> 00:16:03,684 Hubble telescope first discovered in the 90s. 266 00:16:03,812 --> 00:16:05,444 Like that kind of glory. 267 00:16:05,572 --> 00:16:07,348 Like impossible, brilliant light. 268 00:16:07,404 --> 00:16:11,268 Like gazing at the cosmos and saying, like, could it be? 269 00:16:11,404 --> 00:16:11,956 It is. 270 00:16:12,028 --> 00:16:12,644 It's not. 271 00:16:12,732 --> 00:16:13,396 Could it be? 272 00:16:13,468 --> 00:16:18,014 It is incredible heavenly light and warmth. 273 00:16:18,062 --> 00:16:21,262 Like we cannot imagine something that you know, like when 274 00:16:21,286 --> 00:16:25,070 you've had an experience that makes the hairs on the back of your 275 00:16:25,110 --> 00:16:31,470 neck stand up kind of glory like we're made to reflect the beauty 276 00:16:31,550 --> 00:16:35,454 and grandeur and glory of God, to shine like the stars. 277 00:16:35,502 --> 00:16:38,702 It's not an accident that Jesus said, I am the light of the 278 00:16:38,726 --> 00:16:39,054 world. 279 00:16:39,142 --> 00:16:42,330 And he also said that you, Jay, are the light of the world, 280 00:16:42,810 --> 00:16:45,186 the salt and the light of the world. 281 00:16:45,338 --> 00:16:49,122 When God creates humankind, he says, let us create humankind in 282 00:16:49,146 --> 00:16:50,070 our image. 283 00:16:53,210 --> 00:16:56,950 In your very DNA is glory. 284 00:16:58,170 --> 00:16:59,710 You're crowned with it. 285 00:17:01,130 --> 00:17:09,035 But, uh. 286 00:17:09,067 --> 00:17:12,379 Oh, there's a picture of the solar system in there. 287 00:17:12,419 --> 00:17:13,851 Christy, can you get to it? 288 00:17:13,955 --> 00:17:15,879 My slides aren't working so hot. 289 00:17:16,659 --> 00:17:21,371 Also from the BBC Solar System Facts, 5 Things Everyone should know 290 00:17:21,395 --> 00:17:22,971 about our cosmic neighborhood. 291 00:17:23,115 --> 00:17:25,519 Did you know you're part of a cosmic neighborhood? 292 00:17:28,179 --> 00:17:32,603 The Bible recounts that something happened almost like our. 293 00:17:32,691 --> 00:17:36,584 I'm sure you've read up on some of this stuff, that our solar 294 00:17:36,632 --> 00:17:39,500 system exists in this impossible harmony. 295 00:17:41,360 --> 00:17:42,940 It's unbelievable. 296 00:17:43,520 --> 00:17:45,900 And the Earth is at this tilt. 297 00:17:46,640 --> 00:17:49,860 I think it's 23 and a half degrees or something like that. 298 00:17:50,480 --> 00:17:55,560 And if it were tilted even fractionally differently, life would 299 00:17:55,600 --> 00:17:57,000 not exist at all. 300 00:17:57,040 --> 00:18:01,020 But yet it does, in this impossible, wonderful, glorious harmony. 301 00:18:01,680 --> 00:18:05,448 The Bible recounts that something happened along the way 302 00:18:05,584 --> 00:18:08,060 to disturb the harmony. 303 00:18:09,600 --> 00:18:13,752 It's like the planets got knocked out of their glorious harmonious 304 00:18:13,816 --> 00:18:14,620 orbit. 305 00:18:17,040 --> 00:18:18,300 Things fell. 306 00:18:18,960 --> 00:18:21,220 The world is not as it should be. 307 00:18:22,320 --> 00:18:27,474 And in some mystery, see if this happens. 308 00:18:27,522 --> 00:18:28,018 There it is. 309 00:18:28,074 --> 00:18:34,162 Jesus's life and death reconciles all things to God, restores 310 00:18:34,226 --> 00:18:36,818 all things to harmony with God's glory. 311 00:18:36,994 --> 00:18:42,450 It's like some force comes along and restores the planets that 312 00:18:42,490 --> 00:18:43,970 have been disturbed from their. 313 00:18:44,090 --> 00:18:48,354 Some force comes along and restores them so that they're orbiting 314 00:18:48,402 --> 00:18:49,922 as they should around the sun. 315 00:18:50,026 --> 00:18:52,830 Jesus is the most of force and he is the sun. 316 00:18:55,330 --> 00:19:01,498 We are made to, like, be in this glorious harmonious orbit with 317 00:19:01,554 --> 00:19:06,362 God reflecting the beauty of the sun, receiving its warmth and 318 00:19:06,386 --> 00:19:07,270 its light. 319 00:19:11,730 --> 00:19:14,714 That's how big the whole thesis of this series, remember, 320 00:19:14,762 --> 00:19:22,352 is that, like, salvation is so much bigger, so much brighter, so 321 00:19:22,376 --> 00:19:25,136 much more beautiful, freeing and mysterious than we've ever heard. 322 00:19:25,168 --> 00:19:28,660 And it affects and it matters for every ordinary person on Earth. 323 00:19:30,680 --> 00:19:33,216 But really quick, I just want to take you through. 324 00:19:33,288 --> 00:19:34,780 I want to ask you a question. 325 00:19:35,640 --> 00:19:37,040 I already asked you one. 326 00:19:37,160 --> 00:19:43,152 In your experience, in your church life, or maybe just in your 327 00:19:43,176 --> 00:19:46,944 life as a whole, what has been your understanding of what God's 328 00:19:46,992 --> 00:19:50,660 main concern is like? 329 00:19:50,780 --> 00:19:53,860 What's like at the end of the day, like, what is God trying to 330 00:19:53,900 --> 00:19:55,240 do with Jesus? 331 00:19:55,740 --> 00:19:57,440 What's God's main concern? 332 00:20:00,540 --> 00:20:04,436 Lucy, you've heard that. 333 00:20:04,588 --> 00:20:05,044 Good. 334 00:20:05,132 --> 00:20:05,636 I'M glad. 335 00:20:05,668 --> 00:20:06,580 Well, you just heard it from me. 336 00:20:06,620 --> 00:20:07,240 Yes. 337 00:20:07,900 --> 00:20:09,960 Take this morning out of the equation. 338 00:20:13,500 --> 00:20:13,812 Is. 339 00:20:16,470 --> 00:20:16,910 Is. 340 00:20:17,030 --> 00:20:17,566 You're right. 341 00:20:17,638 --> 00:20:19,118 That's exactly what today is about. 342 00:20:19,174 --> 00:20:19,890 Luz. 343 00:20:20,630 --> 00:20:22,990 No, you know, that's what today is about. 344 00:20:23,030 --> 00:20:24,174 What else have you heard? 345 00:20:24,302 --> 00:20:25,930 What's God's main concern? 346 00:20:27,670 --> 00:20:28,734 Save us from hell. 347 00:20:28,782 --> 00:20:30,290 That's what you've heard, Josh. 348 00:20:31,030 --> 00:20:33,374 Like, if you had to boil it down, that's what you've heard. 349 00:20:33,422 --> 00:20:34,286 Okay. 350 00:20:34,478 --> 00:20:36,170 Courtney, were you going to say something? 351 00:20:40,710 --> 00:20:43,570 God's main concern is saving us from hell. 352 00:20:44,230 --> 00:20:45,742 Like in the. 353 00:20:45,846 --> 00:20:48,942 If you gathered the thesis from Christianity at the end of the 354 00:20:48,966 --> 00:20:52,398 day, no matter what the other paragraph said, that was the thesis. 355 00:20:52,574 --> 00:20:53,410 Okay. 356 00:20:57,110 --> 00:20:57,890 Yeah. 357 00:20:59,270 --> 00:21:00,654 Yeah, sure. 358 00:21:00,742 --> 00:21:01,358 Okay. 359 00:21:01,454 --> 00:21:02,530 What's God's. 360 00:21:09,920 --> 00:21:10,424 To re. 361 00:21:10,432 --> 00:21:12,980 Establish relationship with God's children. 362 00:21:13,920 --> 00:21:21,720 To save us from ourselves, to save us from destruction. 363 00:21:21,800 --> 00:21:23,144 Does that mean hell, Christy? 364 00:21:23,192 --> 00:21:24,020 Or just. 365 00:21:36,490 --> 00:21:38,550 Yeah, okay. 366 00:21:40,090 --> 00:21:41,030 Adam. 367 00:21:51,690 --> 00:21:54,802 Adam used to think, like, maybe used the takeaway, used to 368 00:21:54,826 --> 00:21:59,438 be some of the other stuff, but now has moved more to this saying, 369 00:21:59,494 --> 00:22:02,542 like Jesus coming to him so that we would receive life and know 370 00:22:02,566 --> 00:22:02,702 it. 371 00:22:02,726 --> 00:22:03,806 Like in the fullest. 372 00:22:03,918 --> 00:22:08,398 Charles, similar transformation where in a similar 373 00:22:08,454 --> 00:22:09,470 vein to other people. 374 00:22:09,590 --> 00:22:12,130 It was kind of more save us from our sins. 375 00:22:12,790 --> 00:22:15,614 Kind of the camp I grew up in. 376 00:22:15,702 --> 00:22:19,214 Yeah, hell, everything else. 377 00:22:19,342 --> 00:22:22,610 I think for me it's kind of this radical shift. 378 00:22:26,320 --> 00:22:29,400 Yes, let's pivot on that point. 379 00:22:29,520 --> 00:22:33,192 Charles grew up in a camp too, where, like, if you had to boil it 380 00:22:33,216 --> 00:22:37,260 down, God's main concern was saving us from sin and hell. 381 00:22:37,920 --> 00:22:40,100 But Charles is moving more to. 382 00:22:42,640 --> 00:22:44,952 There's a weird thing going on with the slides. 383 00:22:45,016 --> 00:22:47,256 When I click on one, it goes to a different one. 384 00:22:47,328 --> 00:22:49,460 There's a one that says God's main concern. 385 00:22:50,660 --> 00:22:53,196 We talked about this earlier in the series. 386 00:22:53,268 --> 00:22:58,348 God's main concern is making things right, is making all things 387 00:22:58,404 --> 00:22:59,000 new. 388 00:23:00,740 --> 00:23:04,840 Jesus said, behold, I'm renewing all things. 389 00:23:05,220 --> 00:23:07,160 I'm making all things new. 390 00:23:09,780 --> 00:23:14,012 That's where we're going to end up, is with justice, with the 391 00:23:14,036 --> 00:23:16,988 wrong things being made right, with the things that are broken being 392 00:23:17,044 --> 00:23:17,812 restored. 393 00:23:17,996 --> 00:23:19,440 That is God's heart. 394 00:23:20,140 --> 00:23:21,572 That's where the end is. 395 00:23:21,676 --> 00:23:24,548 And I said, I'm just going to recap really briefly. 396 00:23:24,644 --> 00:23:29,860 When we shrink down our view of salvation and we just make it 397 00:23:29,900 --> 00:23:33,620 that formula we talked about the last two weeks, we can't help 398 00:23:33,660 --> 00:23:35,960 but also shrink down our view of God. 399 00:23:37,660 --> 00:23:39,760 We'll shrink down our view of people. 400 00:23:41,660 --> 00:23:44,692 So that's why this series is about, like, blowing it back up to 401 00:23:44,716 --> 00:23:46,040 its right size. 402 00:23:46,980 --> 00:23:48,652 Salvation is cosmic. 403 00:23:48,716 --> 00:23:52,860 Like, it's huge, it's galactic, like God, it's Bigger and 404 00:23:52,900 --> 00:23:55,308 brighter, more beautiful, freeing and mysterious than we've 405 00:23:55,324 --> 00:23:55,516 heard. 406 00:23:55,548 --> 00:23:59,884 And I want to show you that in these. 407 00:24:00,052 --> 00:24:00,892 In scriptures. 408 00:24:00,956 --> 00:24:03,036 Go to Colossians Christy. 409 00:24:03,068 --> 00:24:05,480 Oh, wait, it's in my. 410 00:24:07,380 --> 00:24:11,458 This is fabulous how it's doing this today. 411 00:24:11,644 --> 00:24:14,330 I'll try to restart the app and see what happens. 412 00:24:14,670 --> 00:24:15,622 Yes, there we go. 413 00:24:15,646 --> 00:24:17,410 This is Colossians 1. 414 00:24:17,790 --> 00:24:23,430 Colossians is a letter to communities of early Christians in 415 00:24:23,470 --> 00:24:26,170 a town called Colossi. 416 00:24:27,390 --> 00:24:31,798 So Paul would visit, would travel around, build relationships 417 00:24:31,814 --> 00:24:35,350 with people, share with them, like who Jesus is, what he's about. 418 00:24:35,470 --> 00:24:37,990 They would start a church, and then he would touch back with them. 419 00:24:38,030 --> 00:24:39,048 He'd write them a letter. 420 00:24:39,134 --> 00:24:42,932 And in this one, this is one of the earliest sort of hymns of 421 00:24:42,956 --> 00:24:44,600 the first Christian movement. 422 00:24:46,140 --> 00:24:48,320 Listen to how cosmic this is. 423 00:24:49,180 --> 00:24:55,284 The Son is the image of the invisible God, the one who is first 424 00:24:55,452 --> 00:24:57,080 over all creation. 425 00:24:59,500 --> 00:25:01,000 Keep going, Christy. 426 00:25:03,580 --> 00:25:08,860 Because all things were created by him, both in the heavens 427 00:25:08,940 --> 00:25:10,268 and on the earth. 428 00:25:10,444 --> 00:25:13,640 Do you see how big Jesus is right now in this? 429 00:25:14,260 --> 00:25:17,052 He's not small little transaction Jesus that you go to 430 00:25:17,076 --> 00:25:19,280 him to get your golden ticket to go to heaven. 431 00:25:20,100 --> 00:25:22,080 He is the Lord of the universe. 432 00:25:23,300 --> 00:25:26,972 The things that are visible and the things that are invisible, 433 00:25:27,116 --> 00:25:30,060 whether they are thrones or powers or rulers or authorities, 434 00:25:30,140 --> 00:25:31,740 all things were created through Him. 435 00:25:31,780 --> 00:25:38,028 And for him, he existed before all things, and all things are held 436 00:25:38,084 --> 00:25:39,320 together in Him. 437 00:25:40,420 --> 00:25:44,012 He is the head of the body, the church, who is the beginning, 438 00:25:44,076 --> 00:25:46,668 the one who is firstborn from among the dead. 439 00:25:46,764 --> 00:25:48,012 Hang on to that one right there. 440 00:25:48,036 --> 00:25:49,800 It's coming up in Brandon's week. 441 00:25:50,900 --> 00:25:54,380 This concept of firstborn of the dead, it's repeated several times 442 00:25:54,420 --> 00:25:55,440 in Scripture. 443 00:25:56,340 --> 00:25:58,188 Like, Jesus is the beginning. 444 00:25:58,284 --> 00:26:01,240 He is the first step of an entirely new thing. 445 00:26:03,330 --> 00:26:09,466 So he might occupy first place in everything because all the fullness 446 00:26:09,498 --> 00:26:11,910 of God was pleased to live in Him. 447 00:26:13,490 --> 00:26:16,150 And he say that word, and He. 448 00:26:17,890 --> 00:26:19,790 He restored to harmony. 449 00:26:21,170 --> 00:26:24,150 He transferred things from one state to another. 450 00:26:25,170 --> 00:26:29,954 He reconciled to himself through him, whether things on earth 451 00:26:30,002 --> 00:26:30,706 or in the heavens. 452 00:26:30,738 --> 00:26:32,754 He brought peace through the blood of the cross. 453 00:26:32,802 --> 00:26:34,290 We're going to talk about that in two weeks. 454 00:26:34,330 --> 00:26:35,310 Did I tell you? 455 00:26:36,330 --> 00:26:37,310 Hold on. 456 00:26:38,170 --> 00:26:38,722 P.T. 457 00:26:38,786 --> 00:26:39,426 asks a question. 458 00:26:39,498 --> 00:26:40,370 When did Jesus. 459 00:26:40,450 --> 00:26:41,250 A couple weeks ago. 460 00:26:41,290 --> 00:26:44,270 When did Jesus go from, like, human to more than human? 461 00:26:45,770 --> 00:26:51,042 Answer now. 462 00:26:51,066 --> 00:26:52,310 It's complicated. 463 00:26:52,650 --> 00:26:55,570 And it took the church like, 400 years to come up with something 464 00:26:55,610 --> 00:26:56,786 we'd call a doctrine. 465 00:26:56,898 --> 00:26:58,110 You've heard it before. 466 00:26:58,890 --> 00:27:02,150 He's fully human and fully. 467 00:27:02,810 --> 00:27:04,402 Well, that answers it. 468 00:27:04,586 --> 00:27:05,950 Everybody got that? 469 00:27:07,130 --> 00:27:07,870 What? 470 00:27:08,890 --> 00:27:12,306 Look, we don't have to know exactly how to explain it all, folks. 471 00:27:12,498 --> 00:27:15,698 Certainty has Become an untrustworthy idol at which we've 472 00:27:15,714 --> 00:27:17,550 been worshiping for too long. 473 00:27:18,730 --> 00:27:20,914 Let yourself be given to mystery. 474 00:27:21,042 --> 00:27:23,710 This is saying, you're not going to get it. 475 00:27:25,590 --> 00:27:33,730 But before there was anything, he was, and he is glorious. 476 00:27:34,470 --> 00:27:37,502 And so this big reconciliation, we're going to be 477 00:27:37,526 --> 00:27:38,046 big for a minute. 478 00:27:38,078 --> 00:27:40,190 I'm going to get practical, like, so why do I care? 479 00:27:40,230 --> 00:27:42,010 Monday, Tuesday, Wednesday, Thursday, Friday, Saturday. 480 00:27:43,190 --> 00:27:44,970 This restoration is about. 481 00:27:45,350 --> 00:27:48,046 This hymn starts out with the beginning. 482 00:27:48,238 --> 00:27:54,790 All things were created through him, and that it ends with 483 00:27:54,910 --> 00:27:55,478 now. 484 00:27:55,614 --> 00:27:59,862 Because things went awry, everything has to be reconciled to 485 00:27:59,886 --> 00:28:00,450 Him. 486 00:28:01,230 --> 00:28:06,038 Everything was created to reflect his galactic glory. 487 00:28:06,134 --> 00:28:11,542 Everything is supposed to shine with this warmth and glory 488 00:28:11,606 --> 00:28:12,534 and beauty of God. 489 00:28:12,582 --> 00:28:13,142 We don't know it. 490 00:28:13,166 --> 00:28:14,150 We're like, well, what is he? 491 00:28:14,190 --> 00:28:17,954 Even Is that we're asking that from the vantage point of our broken 492 00:28:18,002 --> 00:28:18,710 situation. 493 00:28:20,810 --> 00:28:24,930 Everything was created to reflect God's glory, and Jesus came 494 00:28:25,050 --> 00:28:26,550 to set it straight. 495 00:28:28,890 --> 00:28:31,186 Unlike me sitting in the room. 496 00:28:31,258 --> 00:28:32,990 And when Angela and I fight. 497 00:28:35,210 --> 00:28:36,470 Love you, darling. 498 00:28:37,370 --> 00:28:39,470 You weren't in here for the first part. 499 00:28:40,890 --> 00:28:44,470 And I'm sitting in my room going, I'm not going to say sorry. 500 00:28:45,440 --> 00:28:47,620 No, she did it today. 501 00:28:51,040 --> 00:28:53,160 She's being cranky and irritable. 502 00:28:53,320 --> 00:28:55,528 And that response did not merit. 503 00:28:55,624 --> 00:28:56,360 It wasn't there. 504 00:28:56,400 --> 00:28:57,384 I'm not saying sorry. 505 00:28:57,432 --> 00:28:58,536 She's going to have to say sorry. 506 00:28:58,568 --> 00:29:00,780 I'm going to sit in here until she says sorry. 507 00:29:02,800 --> 00:29:04,100 Any of you do that. 508 00:29:06,400 --> 00:29:07,940 Here's the good news. 509 00:29:09,200 --> 00:29:13,830 Jesus always leaves the room to reconcile. 510 00:29:15,610 --> 00:29:18,370 He left the room of the. 511 00:29:18,490 --> 00:29:24,510 Of the heavenly kingdom to come here and make it right. 512 00:29:26,170 --> 00:29:30,658 Goes to Kiersten's question about, like, so which is it people 513 00:29:30,714 --> 00:29:32,642 say, like, we're saved by grace. 514 00:29:32,706 --> 00:29:33,890 It's all about God's work. 515 00:29:33,930 --> 00:29:35,842 It's all about Jesus's character and what he does. 516 00:29:35,866 --> 00:29:38,088 But if we don't respond to it, we're not saved. 517 00:29:38,234 --> 00:29:40,268 Well, it's a little bit of a both. 518 00:29:40,324 --> 00:29:43,628 It's like Evan. 519 00:29:43,724 --> 00:29:45,004 Evan's a good friend of mine. 520 00:29:45,052 --> 00:29:45,800 If I. 521 00:29:46,420 --> 00:29:50,268 If Evan and I were a bit at odds because he's an IU fan, I'm 522 00:29:50,284 --> 00:29:51,036 a Purdue fan. 523 00:29:51,068 --> 00:29:53,200 And he said something that really hurt my feelings. 524 00:29:55,460 --> 00:29:57,596 But then I wanted to reconcile with him. 525 00:29:57,668 --> 00:30:01,160 So I thought really hard, like, man, what does Evan need? 526 00:30:02,580 --> 00:30:05,800 How do I give him something that can restore us? 527 00:30:06,600 --> 00:30:08,112 And so I put together. 528 00:30:08,216 --> 00:30:11,232 I work with Kara, who's really good at designing things, and I say, 529 00:30:11,256 --> 00:30:14,896 and she's an IU man, too, help me design something that's really 530 00:30:14,968 --> 00:30:17,900 glittery and glorious and Hoosier like. 531 00:30:18,440 --> 00:30:25,424 And so she sets the song the IU fight song on like this, she goes 532 00:30:25,472 --> 00:30:27,232 on, what is it? 533 00:30:27,256 --> 00:30:27,712 Pinterest. 534 00:30:27,776 --> 00:30:31,460 And finds a design, and we design it, and I give it to Evan 535 00:30:33,250 --> 00:30:34,154 as, like, a. 536 00:30:34,242 --> 00:30:40,410 Like, I make the first move, and he takes the gift, and he's like, 537 00:30:40,450 --> 00:30:41,430 cool, man. 538 00:30:42,770 --> 00:30:47,002 And he stays mad at me, puts it on a shelf in its closet, and 539 00:30:47,026 --> 00:30:48,350 it gathers dust. 540 00:30:51,170 --> 00:30:54,590 It doesn't change the fact that I extended the gift. 541 00:30:56,130 --> 00:31:02,404 It is up to him to say, you know, I think he put a lot of thought 542 00:31:02,492 --> 00:31:04,196 and love and care into this. 543 00:31:04,348 --> 00:31:06,160 Ball's in my court now. 544 00:31:09,180 --> 00:31:12,360 So all of this is by the grace and work of God. 545 00:31:12,940 --> 00:31:21,140 Our entire life, my friends, our entire lives are one thing, a 546 00:31:21,180 --> 00:31:23,320 response to God's grace. 547 00:31:26,550 --> 00:31:28,250 It's your entire life. 548 00:31:29,670 --> 00:31:34,206 It's to receive this glorious beauty that was given at creation 549 00:31:34,318 --> 00:31:37,450 and is given out again and again and again and again and again 550 00:31:37,750 --> 00:31:38,850 through grace. 551 00:31:39,430 --> 00:31:42,798 When you don't care about it, when you're running off and doing 552 00:31:42,854 --> 00:31:46,270 your thing, God is pursuing you and saying, like, the gift is 553 00:31:46,310 --> 00:31:51,848 there for you in hopes that one day, like that prodigal son or 554 00:31:51,984 --> 00:31:55,768 daughter, you'll turn around to discover God was waiting. 555 00:31:55,944 --> 00:31:56,940 Right, Jim? 556 00:31:57,920 --> 00:31:59,260 Wasn't he waiting? 557 00:32:03,840 --> 00:32:05,720 It said, here, look at this. 558 00:32:05,760 --> 00:32:06,980 Some people have asked. 559 00:32:07,600 --> 00:32:11,000 It's been said, the cross doesn't change God's mind about us. 560 00:32:11,040 --> 00:32:13,260 It changes our mind about God. 561 00:32:15,930 --> 00:32:16,738 Some theology. 562 00:32:16,834 --> 00:32:20,950 The formula kind was like Jesus was trying to trick the Father. 563 00:32:21,850 --> 00:32:22,590 What? 564 00:32:23,850 --> 00:32:25,310 They're the same being. 565 00:32:26,090 --> 00:32:27,282 They're on the same page. 566 00:32:27,346 --> 00:32:31,122 Last time I checked, the Father's just in love with us as 567 00:32:31,146 --> 00:32:31,554 the Son. 568 00:32:31,602 --> 00:32:33,190 That's why they collaborate. 569 00:32:33,690 --> 00:32:35,154 Weird for us to understand. 570 00:32:35,322 --> 00:32:37,350 Another day we'll talk about the Trinity. 571 00:32:38,410 --> 00:32:40,830 They're like, we gotta go save these people. 572 00:32:41,520 --> 00:32:45,060 Yes, they screwed it up, but we got to go save them. 573 00:32:46,400 --> 00:32:47,672 How are we going to do it? 574 00:32:47,776 --> 00:32:50,344 Like the world does it with violence and swords and stuff? 575 00:32:50,392 --> 00:32:53,048 No, we're going to do it with the only weapon that can actually 576 00:32:53,104 --> 00:32:53,976 restore things. 577 00:32:54,048 --> 00:32:54,280 Love. 578 00:32:54,320 --> 00:32:55,140 Of course. 579 00:32:57,520 --> 00:32:57,896 Yeah. 580 00:32:57,928 --> 00:33:00,104 But then it will still be up to them to choose it. 581 00:33:00,192 --> 00:33:00,968 Well, yeah. 582 00:33:01,064 --> 00:33:02,980 That's how relationships work. 583 00:33:03,840 --> 00:33:06,856 If it's force or manipulation, it's not a relationship. 584 00:33:06,968 --> 00:33:07,736 I got to choose. 585 00:33:07,768 --> 00:33:08,940 You got to choose. 586 00:33:10,320 --> 00:33:11,784 Jay and I are friends. 587 00:33:11,952 --> 00:33:15,032 If I keep asking Jay to come to lunch with me, and he says, no, 588 00:33:15,056 --> 00:33:15,864 I'm busy. 589 00:33:15,992 --> 00:33:19,544 Well, I'm not gonna show up and rip Jay out of bed. 590 00:33:19,592 --> 00:33:21,460 Get in my car right now. 591 00:33:23,360 --> 00:33:27,020 We're going to Charleston's to get some key lime pie. 592 00:33:29,520 --> 00:33:30,152 Yeah, I know. 593 00:33:30,176 --> 00:33:30,900 It's good. 594 00:33:31,600 --> 00:33:33,112 That's not a friendship. 595 00:33:33,256 --> 00:33:35,580 Jay has to choose I have to choose. 596 00:33:36,880 --> 00:33:40,712 God makes the move to restore us to harmony so that we reflect 597 00:33:40,776 --> 00:33:41,980 this brilliance. 598 00:33:43,920 --> 00:33:47,384 When Jesus was transfigured on the mountain, he showed his disciples 599 00:33:47,432 --> 00:33:51,000 like, hey, here's what I actually look like when I'm really 600 00:33:51,040 --> 00:33:54,264 decked out in all my heavenly glory. 601 00:33:54,392 --> 00:33:56,968 I took on your form for a bit, but guess what? 602 00:33:57,104 --> 00:33:59,300 You're gonna become like me. 603 00:34:00,720 --> 00:34:03,180 You're becoming like me. 604 00:34:06,120 --> 00:34:07,088 It's in your head. 605 00:34:07,144 --> 00:34:07,520 Keep going. 606 00:34:07,560 --> 00:34:12,576 Christy, once you were alienated from God and you were enemies 607 00:34:12,608 --> 00:34:18,260 with him, can you read the next three words in your minds? 608 00:34:19,880 --> 00:34:23,152 And then you, because you're doing that, you're like, you know, 609 00:34:23,176 --> 00:34:26,272 I'm going to join up with the forces of darkness and evil. 610 00:34:26,336 --> 00:34:27,980 Perhaps I didn't do that. 611 00:34:28,549 --> 00:34:32,493 Well, I told you last week, sin is not just like when you choose 612 00:34:32,541 --> 00:34:33,021 to lie. 613 00:34:33,085 --> 00:34:36,013 It's actually like participating in this cosmic force 614 00:34:36,061 --> 00:34:38,369 of darkness for which you are not destined. 615 00:34:38,869 --> 00:34:41,489 You're destined for the kingdom of light and glory. 616 00:34:43,189 --> 00:34:46,413 One more thing from Ephesians. 617 00:34:46,461 --> 00:34:47,437 Actually, let's skip it. 618 00:34:47,493 --> 00:34:48,173 You know what? 619 00:34:48,261 --> 00:34:51,209 I'm going to do a good thing and cut to the end. 620 00:34:52,389 --> 00:34:55,851 We're not going to go over today because Angela and I got to 621 00:34:55,875 --> 00:34:57,403 leave for Tennessee right after church. 622 00:34:57,451 --> 00:34:58,479 Don't we, honey? 623 00:35:00,019 --> 00:35:04,539 And if I want to start a fight today, I'll go over and stay after, 624 00:35:04,659 --> 00:35:07,115 and then I will have to go say sorry. 625 00:35:07,307 --> 00:35:08,251 So did you all hear me? 626 00:35:08,275 --> 00:35:09,999 I'm leaving right after church. 627 00:35:10,979 --> 00:35:13,639 I want to have a good ride down there. 628 00:35:14,659 --> 00:35:16,119 Nothing to do with her. 629 00:35:18,739 --> 00:35:20,359 So, like, so what? 630 00:35:21,510 --> 00:35:23,690 Go read Ephesians 2 this week. 631 00:35:24,630 --> 00:35:27,610 Did you read Romans 5 and 6 like I assigned you? 632 00:35:32,390 --> 00:35:33,854 Go read Ephesians 2. 633 00:35:33,942 --> 00:35:34,846 Here's why it matters. 634 00:35:34,878 --> 00:35:36,410 Here's what I want to show you. 635 00:35:37,110 --> 00:35:42,030 Jesus, whole life he spent teaching people about, like, how 636 00:35:42,070 --> 00:35:45,534 this big concept of reconciliation plays out in everyday 637 00:35:45,582 --> 00:35:46,170 life. 638 00:35:48,480 --> 00:35:52,456 All of his teachings are about, like, reflect God's heart 639 00:35:52,528 --> 00:35:54,040 in your relationships. 640 00:35:54,200 --> 00:35:55,960 I think it's Matthew 5 in there. 641 00:35:56,000 --> 00:35:57,352 It's all in one thing. 642 00:35:57,456 --> 00:35:59,688 It was supposed to be so organized today. 643 00:35:59,824 --> 00:36:01,800 And the daggone thing doesn't work. 644 00:36:01,840 --> 00:36:03,220 It's always not working. 645 00:36:06,560 --> 00:36:08,024 Actually, I don't have it in there. 646 00:36:08,112 --> 00:36:08,680 Forget it. 647 00:36:08,720 --> 00:36:09,784 I'm on fire today. 648 00:36:09,872 --> 00:36:10,540 Woo. 649 00:36:11,520 --> 00:36:11,886 J. 650 00:36:11,928 --> 00:36:14,898 Jesus says in Matthew 5, Sermon on the Mount. 651 00:36:15,074 --> 00:36:18,098 He says something like this, if you're going to church, if you're 652 00:36:18,114 --> 00:36:22,002 going to worship on Sunday at 9:30 at Heaven Earth Church, should 653 00:36:22,026 --> 00:36:23,090 we move it to 10? 654 00:36:23,210 --> 00:36:23,778 Never mind. 655 00:36:23,834 --> 00:36:24,690 Hold that thought. 656 00:36:24,810 --> 00:36:27,266 Anyways, you're going to church. 657 00:36:27,378 --> 00:36:29,490 You're like, I'm going to worship today. 658 00:36:29,610 --> 00:36:31,618 I'm Going to bring the Lord my best. 659 00:36:31,754 --> 00:36:33,230 Jesus says stop. 660 00:36:34,570 --> 00:36:35,310 First. 661 00:36:37,220 --> 00:36:46,572 If you got a quarrel with somebody, put down your gift, Go 662 00:36:46,596 --> 00:36:49,600 to your friend or your person with whom you have some hostility. 663 00:36:50,500 --> 00:36:52,520 Go do your part to make it right. 664 00:36:55,380 --> 00:36:56,880 Go reconcile. 665 00:36:58,180 --> 00:37:01,600 Then come back, grab your gift and go to church. 666 00:37:03,470 --> 00:37:08,342 This isn't just like abstract, like woo hoo, we get reconciled to 667 00:37:08,366 --> 00:37:09,850 the cosmic glory. 668 00:37:10,430 --> 00:37:12,170 It's something you practice. 669 00:37:13,310 --> 00:37:16,450 Reconciliation makes sense when you practice it. 670 00:37:17,470 --> 00:37:19,094 You know who gets reconciliation? 671 00:37:19,142 --> 00:37:21,094 Ross, you're always talking about recovery. 672 00:37:21,142 --> 00:37:23,734 Yeah, because I learned so much from it. 673 00:37:23,902 --> 00:37:27,222 You know people who get reconciliation, people who work the 674 00:37:27,246 --> 00:37:31,616 12 steps, they do steps one, two and three, have the spiritual 675 00:37:31,648 --> 00:37:32,928 awakening and surrender to God. 676 00:37:32,944 --> 00:37:36,512 Then they take a deep, hardcore inventory. 677 00:37:36,656 --> 00:37:39,504 Steps four and five, they look at their own defects. 678 00:37:39,552 --> 00:37:42,416 Step six and seven, and then eight and nine, they go make amends 679 00:37:42,448 --> 00:37:43,180 with people. 680 00:37:43,960 --> 00:37:47,008 Make a long list of people they got to make amends with. 681 00:37:47,144 --> 00:37:48,620 Who wants to do that? 682 00:37:50,120 --> 00:37:51,168 But what if they. 683 00:37:51,224 --> 00:37:52,816 Now, you don't do it if it's gonna. 684 00:37:52,848 --> 00:37:54,020 How's it go, Bobo? 685 00:37:56,070 --> 00:37:58,250 If it's going to injure yourself or others. 686 00:37:59,990 --> 00:38:03,490 But you go clean up your side of the street, you offer your gift. 687 00:38:05,270 --> 00:38:08,494 Jesus spent his whole time talking about relationships. 688 00:38:08,542 --> 00:38:09,890 Reconciliation. 689 00:38:11,030 --> 00:38:11,502 Ross. 690 00:38:11,566 --> 00:38:12,750 I don't want to say sorry. 691 00:38:12,830 --> 00:38:14,622 I don't want to pursue reconciliation. 692 00:38:14,686 --> 00:38:17,198 Do you want to be a part of the kingdom of light and glory balls 693 00:38:17,214 --> 00:38:18,170 in your court? 694 00:38:18,630 --> 00:38:19,822 Yeah, but they hurt me. 695 00:38:19,846 --> 00:38:20,686 They wronged him. 696 00:38:20,758 --> 00:38:27,700 I know that if it were easy, then, I mean, everybody be doing 697 00:38:27,740 --> 00:38:28,320 it. 698 00:38:29,420 --> 00:38:31,636 Jesus didn't come to give us something easy. 699 00:38:31,668 --> 00:38:34,276 He gave us something that's transformational and reflects God's 700 00:38:34,308 --> 00:38:34,920 glory. 701 00:38:35,900 --> 00:38:37,780 It's up to you to be a part of it. 702 00:38:37,900 --> 00:38:40,516 He's going to give you grace every step of the way. 703 00:38:40,668 --> 00:38:43,156 He's not like, hey, Heather, go reconcile. 704 00:38:43,188 --> 00:38:43,556 Good luck. 705 00:38:43,588 --> 00:38:44,800 Hope it goes well. 706 00:38:47,590 --> 00:38:51,902 Like in my hardest moments of needing to reconcile with my enemies. 707 00:38:51,966 --> 00:38:56,750 Yes, I know I'm a holy man of God, but I've had some enemies, people 708 00:38:56,790 --> 00:38:57,422 that hurt me. 709 00:38:57,446 --> 00:39:02,330 And in my head, whoo, I was not treating them nicely up here. 710 00:39:05,830 --> 00:39:07,610 And so I prayed about it. 711 00:39:08,550 --> 00:39:10,046 It's a weird thing, prayer. 712 00:39:10,078 --> 00:39:11,770 I don't know how it works yet. 713 00:39:12,070 --> 00:39:13,250 Maybe someday. 714 00:39:14,990 --> 00:39:21,290 But this little thing started changing in my heart about my enemy. 715 00:39:22,190 --> 00:39:27,318 I started to see it from their shoes, in a person who had really 716 00:39:27,374 --> 00:39:28,662 wronged me and mistreated me. 717 00:39:28,686 --> 00:39:30,006 Not just once, but over and again. 718 00:39:30,078 --> 00:39:34,006 I saw what that person had been through in life, how they'd 719 00:39:34,038 --> 00:39:35,010 lost people. 720 00:39:36,190 --> 00:39:41,380 Dear people, they were hurting me because they were hurting. 721 00:39:42,840 --> 00:39:47,584 And so I went and said, sorry did that person receive my gift? 722 00:39:47,632 --> 00:39:48,980 Did we reconcile? 723 00:39:49,640 --> 00:39:50,380 No. 724 00:39:52,120 --> 00:39:53,820 Do I regret doing it? 725 00:39:54,760 --> 00:39:56,368 Not one bit. 726 00:39:56,424 --> 00:39:57,520 Because you know what happened? 727 00:39:57,600 --> 00:39:59,940 I caught a glimpse of the glory. 728 00:40:02,680 --> 00:40:04,540 My God, that's what you're like. 729 00:40:06,060 --> 00:40:07,560 Praise be to God. 730 00:40:07,980 --> 00:40:11,012 I have so much love in my heart for that person standing here 731 00:40:11,036 --> 00:40:11,412 right now. 732 00:40:11,436 --> 00:40:13,160 And we have not reconciled. 733 00:40:17,340 --> 00:40:19,908 So this has, like, Monday, Tuesday, Wednesday, Thursday, Friday, 734 00:40:19,964 --> 00:40:20,916 Saturday kind of stuff. 735 00:40:20,948 --> 00:40:22,080 It's not just later. 736 00:40:23,020 --> 00:40:26,132 I leave you with this Second Corinthians. 737 00:40:26,196 --> 00:40:28,360 Go there, if you would, Christy. 738 00:40:28,700 --> 00:40:30,200 These are Paul's words. 739 00:40:31,010 --> 00:40:35,514 All these new things are from God, who reconciled us to himself 740 00:40:35,562 --> 00:40:39,194 through Christ and who gave us the ministry of reconciliation. 741 00:40:39,242 --> 00:40:40,430 Do you see how it works? 742 00:40:42,130 --> 00:40:47,706 Jesus comes as the glorious gift to you so that you are realigned 743 00:40:47,738 --> 00:40:48,826 with the glory of heaven. 744 00:40:48,858 --> 00:40:51,178 You're transferred from one state to another. 745 00:40:51,314 --> 00:40:54,442 You are over here, like, partying in Vegas. 746 00:40:54,506 --> 00:40:56,910 What happens in Vegas stays in Vegas. 747 00:40:57,910 --> 00:41:00,610 Participating in the spiritual forces of darkness. 748 00:41:01,830 --> 00:41:02,430 Not really. 749 00:41:02,470 --> 00:41:04,894 You were just thinking bad things about your friend. 750 00:41:04,982 --> 00:41:05,758 Whatever. 751 00:41:05,934 --> 00:41:07,570 But it's like Vegas. 752 00:41:08,470 --> 00:41:11,890 You thought nobody saw it wrong. 753 00:41:12,710 --> 00:41:17,486 God said, hey, I'm defeating every force, every barrier that keeps 754 00:41:17,518 --> 00:41:20,830 you from walking from this kingdom to this one. 755 00:41:20,950 --> 00:41:22,450 Be reconciled. 756 00:41:22,800 --> 00:41:24,620 Go to the next one, Christy. 757 00:41:26,880 --> 00:41:29,656 He's not counting your mistakes against you. 758 00:41:29,808 --> 00:41:33,060 He's not expecting you to get the rap sheet cleared up. 759 00:41:33,920 --> 00:41:34,900 Keep going. 760 00:41:36,400 --> 00:41:38,540 So you are ambassadors. 761 00:41:40,880 --> 00:41:45,544 You represent this glorious cosmic Christ who came to reconcile 762 00:41:45,592 --> 00:41:46,180 you. 763 00:41:47,280 --> 00:41:48,580 Paul says it. 764 00:41:48,900 --> 00:41:50,012 This is my so what? 765 00:41:50,036 --> 00:41:50,748 For the day. 766 00:41:50,884 --> 00:41:52,400 Be reconciled. 767 00:41:54,740 --> 00:41:55,884 What's Paul saying? 768 00:41:55,972 --> 00:41:57,480 The ball's in your court. 769 00:41:58,820 --> 00:41:59,996 It's like Evan. 770 00:42:00,108 --> 00:42:04,092 I gave him my beautiful gift that Carrie and I designed so we 771 00:42:04,116 --> 00:42:04,908 could reconcile. 772 00:42:04,924 --> 00:42:06,332 But Evan put it up on a shelf. 773 00:42:06,396 --> 00:42:08,080 He's got to get it off the shelf. 774 00:42:11,140 --> 00:42:14,508 And some of you might be saying, like, Ross, but you don't 775 00:42:14,524 --> 00:42:16,204 know what I've been through in my church experience. 776 00:42:16,292 --> 00:42:17,164 It's been bad. 777 00:42:17,252 --> 00:42:18,880 I've got spiritual trauma. 778 00:42:20,340 --> 00:42:22,892 I can't even receive this message today because it's got too 779 00:42:22,916 --> 00:42:23,772 much baggage in it. 780 00:42:23,796 --> 00:42:25,160 I'm triggered too much. 781 00:42:25,780 --> 00:42:27,240 I feel you on that. 782 00:42:29,140 --> 00:42:31,280 It happened and it mattered. 783 00:42:34,340 --> 00:42:36,520 But can I ask you to do something? 784 00:42:37,620 --> 00:42:38,268 Don't. 785 00:42:38,364 --> 00:42:46,400 Please don't let people ruin your view of this glorious Jesus. 786 00:42:50,130 --> 00:42:53,550 He is the head of the church, but he also transcends the church. 787 00:42:54,050 --> 00:42:58,310 He is still as glorious and as beautiful as he's ever been. 788 00:42:59,010 --> 00:43:00,590 Be reconciled. 789 00:43:02,850 --> 00:43:04,230 Come back to him. 790 00:43:05,410 --> 00:43:06,830 He stands waiting. 791 00:43:08,370 --> 00:43:09,870 Keep going, Christy. 792 00:43:11,730 --> 00:43:13,452 That's good enough for today. 793 00:43:13,626 --> 00:43:15,544 Maybe go to the star bathing picture. 794 00:43:15,592 --> 00:43:16,504 That's fun. 795 00:43:16,672 --> 00:43:18,020 That's where we'll end. 796 00:43:21,520 --> 00:43:23,352 How do you get reconciled? 797 00:43:23,416 --> 00:43:24,776 How do you be reconciled. 798 00:43:24,808 --> 00:43:25,980 This is it, folks. 799 00:43:27,120 --> 00:43:28,580 Do what you're doing today. 800 00:43:30,400 --> 00:43:34,312 Every time you show up and you're fully present with your community 801 00:43:34,416 --> 00:43:39,384 like this, it's like you're gazing at the stars, you're gazing 802 00:43:39,432 --> 00:43:40,332 at the sun. 803 00:43:40,496 --> 00:43:41,920 We're doing it together. 804 00:43:42,620 --> 00:43:46,020 We're trying to get restored to this glorious harmony with God 805 00:43:46,100 --> 00:43:46,720 together. 806 00:43:48,380 --> 00:43:49,812 But it's also something you do. 807 00:43:49,836 --> 00:43:50,820 I said it last week. 808 00:43:50,860 --> 00:43:54,244 When you Decide to give 10 minutes of your morning to stillness 809 00:43:54,292 --> 00:43:56,480 and prayer rather than Facebook. 810 00:43:57,340 --> 00:43:58,884 Ross, I don't have any time. 811 00:43:58,972 --> 00:44:01,076 Hey, can I see your screen time for a minute? 812 00:44:01,188 --> 00:44:02,960 Ross, why are you judging me? 813 00:44:05,340 --> 00:44:06,560 You got time. 814 00:44:07,150 --> 00:44:08,598 Be reconciled. 815 00:44:08,774 --> 00:44:10,518 It's a relationship, folks. 816 00:44:10,614 --> 00:44:14,662 When you show up, you're investing in the relationship and 817 00:44:14,686 --> 00:44:15,970 he will honor it. 818 00:44:17,150 --> 00:44:19,730 He will grow new things in you and through you. 819 00:44:21,630 --> 00:44:24,310 When you show up for 10 minutes of prayer, when you show 820 00:44:24,350 --> 00:44:31,334 up fully with people, you see people, you're being reconciled. 821 00:44:31,382 --> 00:44:33,972 And also you're being an ambassador. 822 00:44:34,126 --> 00:44:37,352 You're taking forward the ministry of reconciliation. 823 00:44:37,496 --> 00:44:40,872 You're participating in this kingdom of light and glory. 824 00:44:40,936 --> 00:44:42,900 Guys, this is something you can do. 825 00:44:43,840 --> 00:44:47,140 Monday, Tuesday, Wednesday, Thursday, Friday, Saturday. 826 00:44:48,640 --> 00:44:51,752 Every day is an opportunity to participate in the kingdom of light 827 00:44:51,776 --> 00:44:53,180 and glory with Jesus. 828 00:44:54,960 --> 00:44:56,260 So let's do it. 829 00:44:58,240 --> 00:44:59,260 Let's pray. 830 00:45:06,090 --> 00:45:14,790 God, I ask that you would heal the parts of us that are hurt. 831 00:45:20,650 --> 00:45:30,572 Heal us from our wounds, how we've been hurt, perhaps by church 832 00:45:30,636 --> 00:45:33,280 going folks, people who are Christian. 833 00:45:34,660 --> 00:45:40,540 Heal us and help us to receive your presence, your friendship, your 834 00:45:40,580 --> 00:45:41,160 love. 835 00:45:43,140 --> 00:45:50,812 And also forgive us for how we've neglected your gifts, neglected 836 00:45:50,876 --> 00:45:53,040 time with you, neglected relationship. 837 00:45:55,430 --> 00:45:58,686 Forgive our resentments and our self justifications, how we've 838 00:45:58,718 --> 00:46:01,810 looked at people as enemies and as means to ends. 839 00:46:03,190 --> 00:46:05,406 Bring us back into your glorious light. 840 00:46:05,478 --> 00:46:09,130 Bring us back into this harmonious orbit with you. 841 00:46:10,150 --> 00:46:13,726 And as the sound of children enters the room, we give you thanks 842 00:46:13,758 --> 00:46:17,966 that you welcome us as your children in Jesus name. 843 00:46:18,118 --> 00:46:18,930 Amen. 844 00:46:20,900 --> 00:46:25,372 Thank you for participating in the conversation happening at Heaven 845 00:46:25,436 --> 00:46:26,796 Earth Church. 846 00:46:26,988 --> 00:46:32,600 Your next opportunity to do so live is this Sunday morning, 9:30am 847 00:46:33,300 --> 00:46:37,884 Eastern Time, either at the main campus at 309 East Main in Whiteland, 848 00:46:37,932 --> 00:46:42,156 Indiana or online at YouTube Live. 849 00:46:42,308 --> 00:46:51,830 That's@YouTube.com the audio podcast is always available at Apple 850 00:46:51,910 --> 00:46:55,030 Podcast and on Spotify. 851 00:46:55,190 --> 00:46:59,734 You can help others find out about the Heaven Earth Church podcast 852 00:46:59,862 --> 00:47:04,678 by going to Apple Podcasts and or Spotify and leaving a five star 853 00:47:04,734 --> 00:47:08,998 rating and your review instructions on how to do just that 854 00:47:09,054 --> 00:47:11,456 and links are in the show notes. 855 00:47:11,648 --> 00:47:17,540 You can always find out more by going to the church website heavenearthchurch.org. 856 00:47:17,960 --> 00:47:20,512 We want to thank you for spending time with us today. 857 00:47:20,616 --> 00:47:24,160 My name is Ross Stackhouse, the pastor to Heaven Earth Church, 858 00:47:24,320 --> 00:47:27,648 and you may think out there that your story is over, but in fact, 859 00:47:27,704 --> 00:47:30,944 your faith story may just be beginning. 860 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