Roxy Manning

A woman who's told your labs are normal but feels worse every month, they're.

Dr. Eboni Cornish

Not gonna listen to that patient say they're getting worse. They're gonna think it's all in their head. They're gonna probably gaslight them out the office because everything looks good.

Roxy Manning

Women being labeled as difficult patients, when they keep asking questions and things like.

Dr. Eboni Cornish

That, you still wanna at least educate your doctor but not treat yourself. It's a beautiful thing when you're advocating for yourself, but I think it's even better when you find someone that you can trust that's on the front lines, not just someone you read, someone you can see that's on the front lines doing this type of work on a daily basis to get those answers you need.

Roxy Manning

Keep asking questions, right? Advocating for yourself and ask questions always. We're going to play a game called missed or misunderstood. I think like the women listening are going to really feel this one in their bones because I'm going to give you symptoms or situations and you tell me, is the medical system missing this entirely or misunderstanding and why? First one, chronic fatigue in a 45 year old woman.

Dr. Eboni Cornish

Missed or misunderstood Is misunderstood, definitely anxiety.

Roxy Manning

That suddenly appears in midlife with no prior history. Missed or misunderstood?

Dr. Eboni Cornish

Completely misunderstood.

Roxy Manning

Is that something you see regularly?

Dr. Eboni Cornish

Every day. I just saw it before I got on this podcast. You know, I live through that. Perimenopause anxiety patients come and complain about it a lot and then they end up on SSRIs and other medications and they don't get better. You know, it's definitely that neurotransmitters are impacted by our hormone, that production of serotonin, dopamine, norepinephrine, by our hormone stabilization. So all day, all day, every day, I'll see that. And that's why so many women get on these meds right when they don't need it.

Roxy Manning

Brain fog that gets blamed on perimenopause. Missed or misunderstood.

Dr. Eboni Cornish

Missed. Miss. No one's thinking about that. No one's thinking of brain fog and hormones, really, you know, standard medicine. So it's missed so many times.

Roxy Manning

A woman who's told your labs are normal but feels worse every month. Missed or misunderstood.

Dr. Eboni Cornish

Missed because they're not going to listen to that patient say they're getting worse. They're going to think it's all in their head. They're going to probably gaslight them out the office because everything looks good.

Roxy Manning

Good point. Joint pain that comes and goes and gets labeled as aging.

Dr. Eboni Cornish

Oh, definitely misunderstood. You know, cause that joint pain. Hey, could be tick borne diseases. Lyme disease can be autoimmune disease and I just think they just miss it all the time.

Roxy Manning

A woman being prescribed antidepressants when she says I don't feel like myself.

Dr. Eboni Cornish

Misunderstood, misunderstood. It's so easy. That's the easy way out. That's the fast 15 minute doctor visit. Easy resolution to someone with complex chronic symptoms.

Roxy Manning

That's a good point. I feel like women in midlife there must be like an increase in being prescribed like SSRIs and everything.

Dr. Eboni Cornish

Oh, definitely, definitely. Because as our hormones change, like I said, our neurotransmitters levels are impacted as well. So we will have a higher risk of those mood changes. But, but it's because it's simultaneously occurring with hormonal changes.

Roxy Manning

Lyme disease being thought of as rare or region specific.

Dr. Eboni Cornish

Misunderstood of course, because Lyme disease is everywhere. You know, it's all, it's international. That's why my association is International Lyme and associated Diseases Society. It's inner city, it's, you know, rural areas, it's urban environments. It does not discriminate. It affects all different backgrounds, ages, mothers, perimenopausal, postmenopausal. It also can flare up after you get stress. So I have people who might go through puberty, they may have had Lyme as a kid and then their symptoms worsen. They're having more neurological changes, joint pain, aches, fatigue. When, when they hit 13, 14, when you hit your menstrual cycle. Women can have worsening symptoms of that we are mentioning because their hormones are changing postmenopausal. You know, so it does fluctuate. You have that death in the family, you get another infection and all of a sudden you're having these symptoms that you didn't have before. That's because Lyme disease has a waxing waning course and but it's. I can't stress that enough to your audience. It's all over. It's misdiagnosed and it's. People are dying because of it.

Roxy Manning

Oh, so scary. Oh, this one's a favorite. Women being told it's just stress missed or misunderstood.

Dr. Eboni Cornish

Oh, it's misunderstood. I mean, yes, we are beautiful creatures and we are going to have stress, right? But that's like someone saying it's all in your head. Something may be going on in your brain. You know, there might be an inflammatory process happening in your head itself, but it's just not all in one area. So yeah, that's so sad and misunderstood. And I used to say that Full disclosure. Before I learned functional medicine and I was primary care, that would be my. My end all, be all. That was my get you out the office fast. Wow.

Roxy Manning

So what was the thing that really shifted for you that made you want to find answers? Like, really set you on that journey to be curious?

Dr. Eboni Cornish

I wish I had a great story for that. It was really boredom, you know, I was looking on Craigslist for a couch. Okay. And I saw they had the classified section. And I was like, let me look there. And the job said for doctors who think outside of the box. And I was like, I'm out the box. This is kind of cool. And it was a Lyme practice, and like I said before, I had never heard of Lyme disease. I never heard of functional medicine, But I just jumped in, you know, and it was kind of right. Soon after residency, I'd only been working in standard family practice for a short period anyway, and it was no turning back. So as I learned, I started reflecting on my own life about all those times I've seen this situation. Like, even Lyme disease patients. When I was in residency, I had a provider tell me, oh, that person's drug seeking, because it was a landscaper who kept coming back after getting one dose of Doxycare cycling and still didn't feel well. They're like, don't give them any more antibiotics. That was probably my first chronic Lyme patient, but I didn't think anything about it. So when I jumped into this field, God just. It was God, he led me there, because then I started seeing so many struggling people that were suffering for so long, and it was no turning back. And, you know, that's. That's really my story. I didn't have, like, a revelation one day that, oh, I definitely want to go. I was bored. And I knew there was something greater that I was to give to this world versus just prescription medications, you know,.

Roxy Manning

And so glad you did, because no doubt you've helped so many people. So grateful for that. But I want to close with our final, final cue. And this one really gets under the skin of a lot of people. So, uh.

Dr. Eboni Cornish

Oh, yeah, right.

Roxy Manning

Women being labeled as difficult patients when they keep asking, you know, questions and things like that. Missed or misunderstood.

Dr. Eboni Cornish

That's definitely misunderstood a lot. You know, and especially I always tease patients. Right. It's a difference between asking questions or being Dr. ChatGPT or Google. Okay, we want everyone to advocate for themselves, but you still want to at least educate your doctor but not treat yourself. Right. But I think it's a beautiful thing when you're advocating for yourself, but I think it's even better when you find someone that you can trust that's on the front lines, not just someone you read, someone you can see that's on the front lines, doing this type of work on a daily basis to get those answers you need. But I do encourage you to advocate for yourself, but I don't encourage you to use these AI tools as your provider.

Roxy Manning

Yes. Keep asking questions. Go see your doctor. Talk to your doctor. You know, get all your good information. Always go see your doctor. But keep asking questions.

Dr. Eboni Cornish

Right.

Roxy Manning

Advocating for yourself. And ask questions.

Dr. Eboni Cornish

Always, Always.