You know what grinds my gears?
Speaker BWhat?
Speaker AI went to Harbor Freight yesterday, wanted to pick up some tools.
Speaker BGrinds my gears, too.
Speaker AWell, no, I like going to Harbor Freight.
Speaker ABut anyway, so I went there.
Speaker BI just don't know what to do in there.
Speaker AYeah, well, I mean, Sadie told me I could buy myself tools for my birthday, and she gave me, you know, roundabout figure what I could spend, and I was like, awesome.
Speaker ASo I went with a list in my head of things that I was going to go look for and get.
Speaker AAnyway, that's not what it was.
Speaker AWhat it was is that I go and I bring up all my items, and they scan my items, and then they hand me my stuff and I leave and I pack up everything in the car.
Speaker AAnd it wasn't until I got home that I realized that two of my items she didn't give back to me after she scanned them.
Speaker AThat drives me nuts.
Speaker ALike, she was sure to hand me the other bag.
Speaker BSo you had to go back?
Speaker ANo, actually, I called.
Speaker AThey ended up.
Speaker AThey refunded my money for those two items, and then I decided to order them online because I was down in Fort Myers, right towards the water, forever to get there.
Speaker AIt was convenient at the time, but it wasn't convenient to drive all the way back there.
Speaker BRight.
Speaker BIt takes forever to get there.
Speaker BWe need one out here.
Speaker AIt drives me nuts.
Speaker BI heard there was another one going in somewhere.
Speaker AI would love one closer to here, but it drives me nuts to go someplace, you know, spend the time, and then somebody not hand you things.
Speaker ALike, I've done my job.
Speaker AI've gone through the store.
Speaker AI've gotten all the items.
Speaker AI've brought them to you to ring up, and I've paid for them.
Speaker AI should at least get them all from you.
Speaker AYou know what I mean?
Speaker ALike, I shouldn't be sitting there over checking you to make sure you're giving me everything at that point.
Speaker BRight.
Speaker APart of your job is to scan them and then give them to me once I purchased them.
Speaker AI don't know, it makes me sound kind of mean to say it that way, but, like, there's.
Speaker AIt just drives me bananas when I realize that I didn't get something I was supposed to get.
Speaker BYeah.
Speaker BIt's just super inconvenient, too.
Speaker AYeah.
Speaker AEspecially because, I mean, that place is, what, 45 minutes away from me during the day?
Speaker BYep.
Speaker CCrazy.
Speaker BIt might be 45 minutes away from me and I'm closer, but.
Speaker AYeah.
Speaker AI don't know those kinds of things.
Speaker AWhy can't people just give you what you need.
Speaker BThat's more of what you want.
Speaker AIf I paid for it, I need it now.
Speaker AMaybe, you know, it's kind of like when you go to the drive through and you tell them what you want and then they don't give you it.
Speaker AThey mess up your order completely.
Speaker AAlways seems to happen to my wife.
Speaker ABut what's worse for me is when you walk into a restaurant.
Speaker AI think we might have had this conversation before, you and I, but.
Speaker AAnd they ask you how you want something done and you tell it that, and then they bring it out different.
Speaker AAnd you're like, but I ordered it this way.
Speaker AOh, we do them all like this.
Speaker AThen why would you ask me?
Speaker ALike, I walked into a Friday's one day, you know, TGI Fridays.
Speaker BYep.
Speaker AWalked in there one day and ordered a burger.
Speaker AAnd they're like, how do you want it?
Speaker AI was like, give me medium.
Speaker AThey're like, cool.
Speaker AAnd then they walked away.
Speaker ACame to out, well done.
Speaker AThey're like, how's your burger?
Speaker AI was like, it's well done, it's not medium.
Speaker AAnd they're like, oh, we cook them all that way.
Speaker AAnd that's the first thing.
Speaker AWhy did you ask me?
Speaker BBecause everywhere else does it, like, don't do.
Speaker AIt's not the kind of thing you need in your day.
Speaker AHowever, this card that I just pulled, it does.
Speaker AIt says, how important is the Bible in your day to day life?
Speaker AWhy?
Speaker AAnd has this changed over time?
Speaker BLike reading the Bible, like literally sitting down and reading it, it just says.
Speaker AHow important is the Bible in your day?
Speaker BWell, it's infinitely important because of the contents therein.
Speaker BLike, it guides our every action.
Speaker BThat should.
Speaker AYeah.
Speaker BAs far as like reading and getting excited about it, like that sort of thing, I'd say it's been a roller coaster.
Speaker BI mean, when I was young, I was all about it.
Speaker BI mean, all about it.
Speaker BEven into college, I was reading all the time.
Speaker BAnd then I got to a point where I was like, I've read this thing a million times.
Speaker BI know what it says.
Speaker BSo I don't know.
Speaker BI don't know.
Speaker BMy brain shifted to like, dialogue with people and that sort of thing to like really any, like to dig into it kind of a thing.
Speaker BBut the excitement went away.
Speaker BAnd more recently the excitement has been coming back.
Speaker BBut the thing that I think in my life that has been impacted the most recently is the last 10 months or so Lizzy and I have been doing daily devotions together.
Speaker BAnd that's a big deal.
Speaker BThat has changed how we view each other and view Our family and ultimately how we view God together.
Speaker BSo it's been.
Speaker BI mean, that's been the biggest thing for me as of late, is that just that daily devotion with her.
Speaker BI just.
Speaker BI don't know.
Speaker BHelps get the day started right.
Speaker BWe've had less misunderstandings.
Speaker AOh, yeah, that's good.
Speaker ABetter communication.
Speaker AYeah, I dig it.
Speaker AI remember when I was first introduced to the Bible as a kid.
Speaker AIt didn't take.
Speaker AIt wasn't a hard thing or hard sell for me to understand that this was a holy book.
Speaker ASo, I mean, growing up as a youngster, I just knew this was a holy book.
Speaker AThis was God's book.
Speaker AAnd so I didn't fully understand it.
Speaker AI knew it had a bunch of stories.
Speaker AYou know, God's done these things in the past kind of thing, and there was laws in it.
Speaker ASo that's pretty much how I looked to it.
Speaker AWhen I was young, when I first started actually reading it at any capacity, I was really interested in, like, the Torah.
Speaker AI didn't know it was the Torah.
Speaker AI was interested in the Ten Commandments and then the laws that went further.
Speaker AI was interested in proverbs.
Speaker AI was looking at it as a guidebook to my life.
Speaker AI was looking for stuff that I could use.
Speaker ASo I would go through those things and try to think what's right and what's wrong, which is really not a bad place.
Speaker ALooking back, that's not a bad way if you're going to begin to look at it.
Speaker APeople ask me today if they're new to reading the Bible, where should they start?
Speaker AMost of the time I'll tell them to read the Gospel.
Speaker ABut like, as a kid, that's how I started.
Speaker AI was interested in how does God say I should live my life?
Speaker AWhat are some truths that I can apply?
Speaker AAnd then, I mean, that's kind of how it was.
Speaker AI just kind of looked at it as like the rule book, so to speak.
Speaker AAnd then when I got into my teens, I started reading more information, the stories, and I started reading more of the New Testament.
Speaker AAnd then I scared myself reading James.
Speaker AAnd so I pushed back on it for a while, and it was still an important book, it was still a holy book.
Speaker ABut I wasn't living by the book until I got called to Jesus.
Speaker AAnd then I accepted him in my life.
Speaker AAnd then it became more important again.
Speaker AI started reading through it again in different parts and starting to understand it better and better over time and holding myself up against it a lot more.
Speaker ABut instead of letting myself getting scared away by that, like I did in my early teens or so.
Speaker AI started to embrace it and challenge myself with it.
Speaker ANow, if you were going to ask me my day to day, I mean, you're right.
Speaker AI think it is everything because you're.
Speaker AIt's got everything in it that you can hold your life up to and see where it's going.
Speaker AIt gives you instruction, it gives you guidance, it gives you comfort, it gives you pretty much anything you need.
Speaker ASo keeping it as something that is just very much part of life, it's not just a holy book.
Speaker CIt is the book.
Speaker CIt is.
Speaker AThe best way for God to communicate with us.
Speaker ALike, I saw something online one day, made me laugh.
Speaker AIt was like, hey, I want to hear God speaking to me.
Speaker AAnd someone said, read the Bible.
Speaker AAnd he's like, no, I want to hear it out loud.
Speaker AHe said, well, read the Bible out loud.
Speaker AYou know?
Speaker AAnd I was like, well, I mean, that's pretty true.
Speaker AThere's so much stuff that just kind of talks to you.
Speaker BYeah.
Speaker AAnd so nowadays, like, I go through spells where I read it more and less, like.
Speaker BYeah.
Speaker AAnd, you know, sometimes I'm really diving in all the time, just really filling up.
Speaker AAnd then there's times where I'm.
Speaker CIt's still there.
Speaker AIt's just not as much.
Speaker AI kind of tone it down a bit, but it's.
Speaker AIt's often times where it's not like I'm toning it down, like this is too much.
Speaker AIt's more like I get busy, you know.
Speaker BYeah.
Speaker AMaybe even a little lazy, and then I need to kick it in the rear and get back in it more.
Speaker BDo you ever think that people put a little too much emphasis on the actual reading of the Bible and not as much emphasis on the knowing and.
Speaker AUnderstanding it in some cases.
Speaker BI mean, because like the Bible says to meditate on it and I could be mistaken.
Speaker BSo correct me if I'm wrong, but I believe the word for meditation that is used is like to murmur and to basically, to recite, like to, you know, basically live on it in that little.
Speaker BIt's to consider, but it's not necessarily to read.
Speaker AWell, I mean, it's.
Speaker BBecause they didn't do that then it's.
Speaker ANot meant to read it like a book, like we would read any other book.
Speaker AI mean, some places, yes.
Speaker ABut like, this is something where you're supposed to take the word of God and consider it into your life.
Speaker AConsider how it applies, consider how you match up to it.
Speaker AConsider what it has to tell you and teach you in its smaller form and within the greater story.
Speaker AAnd the two are not supposed to be opposing.
Speaker AFor those also pro tip, they don't oppose.
Speaker AThey're supposed to come in tandem.
Speaker BWhat?
Speaker BWhat do you mean?
Speaker AWell, you know what I mean.
Speaker AIt's like, if you're reading part of the Bible, how does this apply to me?
Speaker ABut then if you find it's applying to you one way, but then if you look at the greater book, it's a different way.
Speaker AThey're not supposed to oppose.
Speaker BOh, okay, I got you.
Speaker BYeah, yeah.
Speaker AYou know what I mean?
Speaker BRight, right, right.
Speaker ASo some people are like.
Speaker ABut I like how it says here.
Speaker AIt's like, no, it's still within the realm of the whole thing.
Speaker BYeah, yeah, yeah.
Speaker AAll the works.
Speaker CBut yeah.
Speaker ASo I have a student that was doing that.
Speaker AHe was just kind of reading through it and, you know, he realized on his own that just trying to read it, he wasn't getting as much out of it.
Speaker AHe needed as much understanding as he wanted.
Speaker AIn some ways he was, and in other ways he wasn't.
Speaker AAnd so my recommendation to him was take apart and really study it.
Speaker CReally try to get a hold of it.
Speaker ABecause anyone can blow through it, but understanding is where we need it.
Speaker AThat's the biggest thing when it comes to the Bible.
Speaker AIt's easy to open it up and glance at it from time to time.
Speaker ABut if you're not trying to integrate it into yourself, put it into action, then it might as well be like any other book on yourself for sure.
Speaker ASo, I mean, it's got to be important.
Speaker AIt's got to be important.
Speaker ANot everybody has always viewed it like I did.
Speaker ASo, I mean, I'm unique in the fact that it was an easy thing for me to accept.
Speaker AThis is a holy and important book that is godly as a young person.
Speaker ABut some people just see it as a book until one day they realize that it's more than a book.
Speaker AIt's funny how for those of us who had interactions with God and church and everything at a young age, we don't have the same testimonies as some people.
Speaker ASome people have amazing testimonies of crazy life change.
Speaker AAnd, you know, I can't quite put the same claim on it.
Speaker AAnd I guess maybe you grew up in the church.
Speaker ASo it's kind of a similar way where we had our own testimony and there's ways that we fell short, of course, but, you know, it's not as dramatic as some others.
Speaker BYeah, I feel like my.
Speaker BThat part of my testimony, I guess you could say was more or Less like, after I came to Christ, what he's done and what I've done and what he's done to correct that.
Speaker AYeah.
Speaker BBecause I was super young, so I don't know that for me, that's always been like.
Speaker BIt's really.
Speaker BI don't know.
Speaker BI almost.
Speaker BAnd I don't mean it in, like, in a bad way, but I almost diminished the life before that.
Speaker BPeople have that massive change, you know, or whatever.
Speaker BThey were drug dealers or whatever, and then Christ got a hold of them and they changed their life.
Speaker BLike, I almost dismiss, like, the before as.
Speaker BYou didn't know better.
Speaker BBecause in my life, I've done better.
Speaker BYou know, all the things that I've done wrong, I've done better.
Speaker BAnd so, like, I don't know, I guess I hold myself to a higher.
Speaker BHigher standard.
Speaker BI guess, like, over my life, I've held myself that way, which just means I miss the mark even more.
Speaker BYou know, I shouldn't.
Speaker BI shouldn't be that way towards myself.
Speaker BBut.
Speaker BBut yeah, I mean, it's like a kid, right?
Speaker BLike a kid who.
Speaker BWho doesn't know that the stove is hot and touching the stove and finding out it's hot versus a kid who definitely knows that the stove is hot and still touching it and then finding out again that the stove is hot.
Speaker BRight?
Speaker BLike, the first one is, oh, man, you didn't know better.
Speaker BSecond one is, you're an idiot.
Speaker BLike, you knew better and you still did it.
Speaker BLike.
Speaker BAnd so I don't know.
Speaker BThat's kind of how.
Speaker BThat's my.
Speaker BI guess that's my early testimony is the whole, like, I'm an idiot, you know, Like, I knew better and still did the stupid stuff, you know?
Speaker ASo that sounds like a great way to segue into something great to talk.
Speaker CAbout today, which would be teenagers or idiots.
Speaker ANo, how God has opened our eyes.
Speaker AHow God brought the light to our life on different areas.
Speaker COkay, that'll be great.
Speaker BOkay.
Speaker AYeah.
Speaker BSounds delicious.
Speaker BDon't believe me.
Speaker BAsk a dishes.
Speaker AOh, wow.
Speaker BYeah.
Speaker AHe Beauty and a beast.
Speaker BYep.
Speaker BHey, so did Nick a couple of weeks ago or months ago, whatever I heard, he totally dropped the beauty.
Speaker BAnd I loved it.
Speaker AAnd it's crazy.
Speaker BIt was great.
Speaker BSo.
Speaker BAll right, well.
Speaker AHow God brought the light to our lives.
Speaker BThat's what we'll be talking about today.
Speaker AYep.
Speaker BAll right.
Speaker BWelcome to the truth response.
Speaker AI think I'll pray today.
Speaker BOkay.
Speaker AAll right.
Speaker AFather, thank you for today and for just all the ways you've continued to bless us and provide for us and protect us.
Speaker AAs we've gone forward, we know the enemy is always looking and lurking and trying to find a way to get a foothold in our lives, Lord.
Speaker AAnd you've protected us in ways we never even know.
Speaker ASo, Lord, continue to do that for us and for everyone listening, that we can continue on, on a good path that is going to not only enrich our lives, but the lives around us to become better reflections of you and to glorify your name and your kingdom.
Speaker AAnd it's in Jesus name that we pray.
Speaker AAmen.
Speaker BAmen.
Speaker BPut all that back on.
Speaker CYep.
Speaker AIt's hat day.
Speaker CFor me, it's.
Speaker CEvery day is hat day.
Speaker BMe, too.
Speaker BBut that's just because his hair is, like, uncontrollable.
Speaker AI actually got a new hat, so.
Speaker BI see that.
Speaker AYeah, new hat.
Speaker AFor my birthday, the students gave me a hat and two bags of crab chips.
Speaker AI was excited.
Speaker BYeah, I have chips.
Speaker CThey're delicious.
Speaker BThat's disgusting.
Speaker AIt's what you eat when you're from Baltimore.
Speaker BSo gross.
Speaker AYeah.
Speaker BYou people can keep your chips.
Speaker AWe will, gladly.
Speaker BGood.
Speaker BPlease don't.
Speaker BDon't offer to share.
Speaker BThat would be an insult.
Speaker AIt would.
Speaker AYou know what?
Speaker AI'm fine with that.
Speaker CI'll keep them.
Speaker AI'll be a little selfish.
Speaker ASo, anyways, talking about today, how God has brought.
Speaker ABrought light to your life, how has he helped you understand things better?
Speaker AHow have you thought of one things one way and then realized they were another once God showed you that those are.
Speaker AI think that's kind of, Dude.
Speaker AThe basis of it.
Speaker BLike, there's not been.
Speaker BI don't think there's been a ton of things that have been.
Speaker BLike, I didn't know that this is how things were supposed to be, and now I do.
Speaker BBut there's been a lot of things that I've been like, yeah, I'm not doing that, you know, or just that whole, like, rebellious nature, you know, you.
Speaker ASo you know what it is, but you've pushed against it.
Speaker BRight, Right.
Speaker BJust because I want to do this or whatever.
Speaker BYou know what I mean?
Speaker BLike, I don't know.
Speaker BLike, obviously.
Speaker BSo why.
Speaker BI decided to follow Jesus when I was five, and most people are like, yeah, right, you were five.
Speaker BAnd I'm like, well, I don't know, dude.
Speaker BLike, I was.
Speaker BYou know, I understood what I was talking about.
Speaker BAnd, like, I was the one who prompted it, wasn't somebody else.
Speaker BAnd growing up in a Baptist church, that's a big deal because, you know, usually it's the whole.
Speaker BDo you believe that Jesus is the Christ the son of living God.
Speaker BAnd you're.
Speaker BThey're doing this and you're like, yes, I do, you know, for the children's ministry stuff, you know, or at least it used to be that way.
Speaker BBut me, I was just like, let's go do this thing.
Speaker BLike, this is, this is what I want, you know, and so wasn't like it was never really hard to grasp what the right things were, you know, it was just sometimes felt like it was more fun to do the wrong things, you know, instant gratification in, in some of the wrong things or whatever.
Speaker BSo whatever that might have been.
Speaker BFood has always been a problem in my life, right?
Speaker BLike, so that's something that just is what it is, you know, like, I should eat better.
Speaker BBut.
Speaker BAnd well, okay, so that's how I used to be.
Speaker BNow I do eat okay in comparison, right?
Speaker BBut I mean what I've done to my body over that time, I guess that could be a thing, right?
Speaker BLike, I know it's not necessarily like what you're meaning per se, but like really like even to the point of working out, right?
Speaker BLike, I always like dreaded the idea of working out.
Speaker BAnd that's a lot of hard work and hard work is dumb when you could work smart, right?
Speaker BLike, but my idea of working smart was I'll just be smart and not.
Speaker BAnd not have to be in shape, right?
Speaker BThat doesn't work.
Speaker BSo when I started working out, I guess that was one of the moments that was really like, okay, so this is how my body's supposed to feel, you know, in life it's just a glimpse, it's just a taste.
Speaker BAnd this is what God actually wants for me in this, you know, I don't know.
Speaker BBut really like most of it's been like, I know better.
Speaker AYeah.
Speaker BYeah.
Speaker AWell, I mean, I think for me one of the biggest things there's.
Speaker AThere was a lot of things growing up, environment wise that when I was willing to take a step back and really study the way I thought about life versus how God actually explains what life is.
Speaker AEspecially when you read the Bible and you start to figure out what all this means, one of the first things I had to come in understanding of was that just doing good things and living a good life isn't enough.
Speaker ABecause really there's no such thing.
Speaker AWe all fall short, right?
Speaker ABut like, okay, I'll give you an example.
Speaker ASo you know, we're very familiar with this environment, but I grew up around what I considered heroes.
Speaker AYou know, my dad was a career fireman.
Speaker AYou know, your dad.
Speaker AAnd so I viewed them as like, that's what it.
Speaker AThat's doing stuff.
Speaker ALike they did was living a good life.
Speaker AAnd, you know, that made them a good person because they were the heroes that ran into danger.
Speaker AWhen everybody is running away or running out, they are the ones that put their lives on the line.
Speaker ASo that had to mean something.
Speaker AA lot of media and different ways that heaven and such like that were displayed gave me the things that made me think that that would get you to heaven by doing good, living a good life, because you would think about it and be like, that person was a good person.
Speaker AI'm sure I'll see them in heaven.
Speaker CThat was a shakeup to realize all that stuff.
Speaker AIt's great that you do and it can be credited to you, but there's also the things you didn't do and the things you did fall short.
Speaker AAnd that's going to weigh much harder without Jesus, without that forgiveness, that salvation that comes only through him.
Speaker AAnd it's nothing that was hard.
Speaker AYou see these people, they work to be a good person and provide a good life and do all the things that our culture tells us are good things to do.
Speaker AYet without Jesus, it's all dust in the wind.
Speaker AIt's nothing.
Speaker AThat was eye opening for me because there were many people, I thought that's just how it is, you know, you just got to be a good person.
Speaker AI have people today in my life, people I love very much that I wouldn't call them believers.
Speaker AAnd they just try to be good people.
Speaker AAnd sometimes I'm so afraid to tell them, like, yeah, that's not.
Speaker AI mean, I do tell them that they need Jesus, but like, it's hard to tell someone, hey, man, just being good isn't.
Speaker AThat doesn't cut it.
Speaker BIt's not enough.
Speaker AIt's like, great job, but no, it's not going to be it.
Speaker AAnd so that was really hard for me, you know, especially because, like, for me, I thought it would be a shoo in.
Speaker AYou hear people dying for their country.
Speaker AYou hear about policemen that die in the line of duty, firemen that die on the job.
Speaker AAnd it was like, well, you know, heaven's waiting for them, you know, and it's not.
Speaker AThat's not as easy.
Speaker CIt's almost.
Speaker CSo I've been watching stuff about Vikings.
Speaker ALately, and it kind of reminds me.
Speaker COf what they believed about Valhalla.
Speaker AIf you died in battle.
Speaker BIn battle, right?
Speaker AYeah.
Speaker ALike just putting, like, it's.
Speaker AIt's weird.
Speaker BWell, if you think about it, like, I don't know, it's, it's a strange version of a self centered ideology towards it.
Speaker BYou know what I mean?
Speaker BLike, even though, like we're talking about people who are selfless.
Speaker CYeah.
Speaker BIn their actions.
Speaker CYeah.
Speaker BRight.
Speaker BLike it's a selfish thought to think, oh, because of something that I did, I deserve it.
Speaker CYeah, yeah.
Speaker CAnd that's actually, that was another thing.
Speaker CWhen I started to understand more of the differences between Christianity and pretty much every religion in the world was that every other religion is.
Speaker BYou can't earn it.
Speaker CYou earn it, you earn it yourself.
Speaker CYou do something.
Speaker CEven Judaism, you gotta follow the law, right.
Speaker CYou know, everything requires something of you to do in order to earn it, to get your place.
Speaker CIt's very works based.
Speaker CAnd when I took a step back from it and realized, man, this is such a prideful way of thinking, I'm going to earn it.
Speaker CAnd Christianity is the only one that went, yeah, you can't.
Speaker CBut this is why God loves you so much.
Speaker CGod loves you so much and recognizes that you can't.
Speaker CAnd so he's given you the way.
Speaker BThat's something that, so that's something that I've changed my thought process on a little bit.
Speaker BNot the whole not earning it bit, but a lot of people have this idea of like total depravity, right?
Speaker BLike this whole like, we are bad and that only by the grace of God.
Speaker BAnd I believe that those things are true.
Speaker BHowever, I also, I've now shifted my thinking because like, okay, I don't deserve it because of what I've done, but I deserve it because of what Christ did already in me and he made it to where I now qualify for that.
Speaker BRight.
Speaker BLike, and he has cleansed that.
Speaker BRight.
Speaker BSo like, I'm no longer that bad person.
Speaker BThere's remnants of the bad person that crop up from time to time.
Speaker BBut I'm now a good person not because of what I've done, but because of what Christ did for me.
Speaker BRight.
Speaker BAnd in me.
Speaker BBut I'm no longer that bad person.
Speaker BSo that's a shift in thought process that I've had over the last probably three, four years, really, five years, something like that.
Speaker BBecause like a lot of people, they harp on that whole, like, we are not good, we're inherently not good as people.
Speaker BAnd it's like, well, yeah, until Christ came along and then he made me good.
Speaker CYeah.
Speaker CIt's interesting too that in that same line of thinking there's people who believe and actually would try to teach other people.
Speaker CWhether you call it preaching or not, it doesn't have to be a preacher.
Speaker CThat it's a way of thinking to say that, like, yes, Christ died for.
Speaker AYou and accepted Christ and that cleaned.
Speaker CYour slate, but now you gotta, now you gotta deserve it.
Speaker BWell, and I don't necessarily think they think that either, but just the idea that you don't deserve it has to be so beaten into people.
Speaker BIt drives me nuts.
Speaker BWell, I'm like.
Speaker BIt's like, okay, yes, I know I was a bad dude before I had Jesus, but I was five, first off.
Speaker BSo, yeah, I mean, there's that, but, like, I've done bad things, but it.
Speaker BThat doesn't inherently make me evil.
Speaker CYeah.
Speaker BYou know, and it's like, I don't.
Speaker BI just can't get on board with that anymore.
Speaker CYeah, but I'm.
Speaker BYeah, most Bible colleges teach that.
Speaker CYeah, well, yeah, but I'm also talking about those who are, you know, they will go to someone who's believing in Christ and basically give them like a guilt trip.
Speaker CLike, if you're not living perfect now, then it's almost like, then you don't deserve to still be saved.
Speaker CThat's not how grace works, man.
Speaker CRight, right.
Speaker BI don't run into a lot of those, though.
Speaker CI've run into some.
Speaker CThey're very legalistic, you know, if you're not following.
Speaker CIt's so wild to see.
Speaker CAnd I butt heads with people like that sometimes unintentionally, Like, I don't mean to.
Speaker CI want to be getting along fine, but I end up not seeing things the same way.
Speaker CAnd I've had that backfire on me where I tried to just still love someone and they.
Speaker CAnyway, they.
Speaker CIt doesn't work.
Speaker CSo, yeah, that was one of the ways.
Speaker CDefinitely.
Speaker CIt's just.
Speaker CBut I'll tell you another way.
Speaker CSo I grew up where in an environment also where I didn't see relationships or sexual things the way that God intended me to see it.
Speaker CTo me, it was like, well, I mean, people just dated and, you know, kids had.
Speaker CEven teens had sex, adults had sex.
Speaker CSexual relationships were everywhere and they were normal.
Speaker CAnd this is just part of life.
Speaker CAnd it was just accepted.
Speaker CIt was just, this is what it was.
Speaker CAnd you know, even like, I dreamt of this stuff, honestly, when I was way younger than I should have been thinking about it, perhaps.
Speaker CAnd like, I'm.
Speaker COne day I'm going to do this and I'll do that.
Speaker CAnd I looked forward to, like, certain relational milestones in very physical ways as I was coming of age and, you know, starting out in the world.
Speaker CI Thought, you know, and you hear about people viewing for extra.
Speaker CThere's a thing.
Speaker CI don't know how it is with women, but I know with men, it's almost like some men treat it like a rite of passage, like when you finally lose your virginity, that's when you become a man.
Speaker CIt's kind of weird, some of the stigmas out there, but that was kind of the environment I was in.
Speaker CAnd I don't think.
Speaker CI'm not saying it to any fault of my parents or anything.
Speaker CI think it was just the culture of this is kind of the norm.
Speaker CThis is how life is now.
Speaker CAnd so living that way with that line of thinking for so long, and then for God to one day wake me up to the fact that, like, hey, there's reasons I put this in place.
Speaker CYou don't realize what you're doing.
Speaker CAnd to show me.
Speaker CAnd unfortunately, I had to learn the hard way out of that way of thinking.
Speaker CAnd I thank God that he gave me the wife that I have, because she and I were prime in our relationship to start to understand this and implement these things in our lives.
Speaker CAnd even though when we did, we still didn't do it perfectly, but we started to understand and still do things better and learn why.
Speaker CAnd that's one of the big things is I talk to kids nowadays.
Speaker CI'm like, you guys don't understand.
Speaker CYou honestly have no idea what you're doing.
Speaker CYou know, it's one of those, forgive them, Father, for they know not what.
Speaker CThey don't.
Speaker CYou don't know what you're doing because society is not going to teach you that it's bad and why you don't want to do these things.
Speaker BRight.
Speaker BI struggled with pornography, but I was a virgin whenever I got married at 25, and so was my wife.
Speaker BAnd so when I tell you, like, I don't.
Speaker BI don't.
Speaker BI'm not saying that to, like, brag, but, like, when I tell you, like, I didn't.
Speaker BI was just on a different path, you know, Like, I.
Speaker BI got it.
Speaker BLike, I struggled.
Speaker BRight.
Speaker BThere were some times where it was like, well, you're awfully close to screwing this up.
Speaker BLike.
Speaker BBut God always had me right there.
Speaker BSo my testimony is the whole, like, okay, you're going off the path.
Speaker BOkay.
Speaker BOkay, you're going off the path.
Speaker BOkay.
Speaker BYou know it.
Speaker BI don't know.
Speaker BSo, like, I was surrounded by the same.
Speaker BSame ideologies.
Speaker CYeah.
Speaker BI mean, not my parents.
Speaker BMy parents, they.
Speaker BThey did their best to, like, you know, teach me biblically.
Speaker CYeah.
Speaker BYou know, all that.
Speaker BBut.
Speaker BBut even then.
Speaker BEven then, when I.
Speaker BWhen I went to them in high school and was like, yo, I'm addicted to pornography.
Speaker BLike, they met me with disappointment rather than there to help, you know, like, and they didn't offer any help.
Speaker BLike, everybody just expected, like, stop.
Speaker BYeah, that doesn't work.
Speaker CThat's not how addiction works.
Speaker BSo, like.
Speaker BSo there's that trail.
Speaker BBut, like, yeah, you know, Well, I.
Speaker CMean, just the idea that, like, all this stuff was just part of life and that's how things worked.
Speaker CIt was so weird to realize, like, this isn't cool, and to think of it in such a.
Speaker CAs if it were all positive and then realize how negative it was.
Speaker CAnd there was this girl that I worked with.
Speaker CI want to say I started working with her, oh, my gosh, 15 years ago, and she was saving herself for marriage.
Speaker CAnd when I first heard that, I thought, that's crazy.
Speaker CAnd then I found out her dad was a minister, and I thought, okay, well, that makes sense that she would want to do that, because, you know, she's in that.
Speaker CBut it's still kind of crazy in this day and age, is what I said to myself in this day and age.
Speaker CLike, who can do that?
Speaker CLike, what's the.
Speaker CAnd I was.
Speaker CI didn't even realize how stupid I was to be thinking and saying some of these things.
Speaker CNot.
Speaker CI wasn't, like, making fun of her at any point.
Speaker CI wasn't like, that person.
Speaker CBut I still, at the same time, was thinking to myself, that's just nuts.
Speaker CAnd some of the things that I thought I'm kind of ashamed of.
Speaker CI'm like, wow, I can't believe you actually didn't get it that much.
Speaker CNow with the understanding that I have, I look back at her and I'm like, man, I hope that God blessed you so much because of this, because you and she did.
Speaker CShe did.
Speaker CEventually, she got married, and I believe she has at least one kid that I know of.
Speaker CI haven't spoken to her in many, many years, but I just, you know, thank God there was someone who was willing to live that way.
Speaker CI was so proud when I realized the truth of her.
Speaker CI wished I could have gone back in time, smacked myself, and said, you keep going.
Speaker BYeah.
Speaker CYou know what I mean?
Speaker CLike, and I was telling one of my students, like, you don't even realize all these things that you do in this.
Speaker CIn dating and what we consider dating nowadays and what's accepted as it.
Speaker CLike, you leave scars behind, you know, like, he was telling me he dated this girl, and he kissed the girl, and then they broke up.
Speaker CAnd then the kissing of the girl kept running through his mind.
Speaker CI said, yeah, it's going to.
Speaker CI said, that's going to run through.
Speaker CAnd anything else you do with any girl is going to run through your mind.
Speaker CAnd then one day you're going to have.
Speaker CHopefully you'll meet the one that God has designed for you and set out for you, and you're going to have all those scars.
Speaker CYou're going to have all that baggage of relationships that you're going to bring into that.
Speaker CAnd there's so many things that can do.
Speaker CIt can cause comparison.
Speaker CIt can cause just a backlog of stuff that just haunts you.
Speaker CYou don't realize.
Speaker CAnd that's not even what the other person's going through.
Speaker CThat's just what you're going through.
Speaker BRight.
Speaker BThat's only one half, you know, and we don't think really one third, honestly, like, you don't.
Speaker BYou don't realize that not only are you impacting yourself and your future spouse and the person that, you know, whatever you did things with before or whatever.
Speaker CYeah.
Speaker BLike, and every single person then on, you know, like, so.
Speaker CYeah, it's such a wild thing.
Speaker CAnd.
Speaker CAnd that's another thing that culture tells you that, like, you go through a heartbreak and these things happen, and culture almost tells you to cherish these things.
Speaker CAnd I'm like, that's.
Speaker CThat's.
Speaker CSo you can see the devil's hand at play.
Speaker CThere is trying to be like, oh, no, this is all good.
Speaker CIt's not.
Speaker CThese are things that are gonna haunt you forever.
Speaker BYeah.
Speaker CYou know, there's things that I think I've forgotten about until they come up in a weird time.
Speaker BYeah.
Speaker CYou know, and I'm like, ugh.
Speaker CAnd, you know, so I told this student, I said, man, that's the thing you got to think about, you know, that's gonna stay with you.
Speaker CIt's probably gonna stay with her.
Speaker CIt may not be at the same capacity, but it's gonna be there.
Speaker CAnd if you do something else with another one now, you'll double down.
Speaker BYeah.
Speaker BAnd you don't get that pass of like, oh, I was a minor.
Speaker BRight.
Speaker CLike.
Speaker BLike our legal system gives.
Speaker BLike, no, like, you don't get that.
Speaker BYou don't get that because that's not how real life works.
Speaker BAnd the strange thing about it is, too, like, so these are relatively new problems.
Speaker BYeah, these are relatively new problems for our day and age.
Speaker BAnd I say our day and age.
Speaker BI mean, the last we'll give.
Speaker BWe'll be gracious and say, last 200 years, right?
Speaker B200.
Speaker CMaybe even 100.
Speaker BMaybe.
Speaker BMaybe.
Speaker BBut, like, it used to be.
Speaker BRight for most.
Speaker BAlmost all of history.
Speaker BRight.
Speaker BYou got married somewhere between the ages of 13 and 20, generally speaking.
Speaker BRight.
Speaker BWhich makes sense because that's when your home hormones go crazy.
Speaker BRight.
Speaker BAnd it just.
Speaker BIt just makes sense.
Speaker BRight.
Speaker BAll that stuff starts functioning.
Speaker BAll that, you know, whatever.
Speaker BThey went about the whole, like, coupling differently.
Speaker BIt wasn't selfish.
Speaker BI mean, I'm sure there were selfish.
Speaker BThere was selfishness to it, too.
Speaker BBut, like, the concept in culture was, like, more.
Speaker BI don't know, there was the pairing and there was the.
Speaker BYou know what I mean?
Speaker BYeah.
Speaker CAnd.
Speaker CWell, there was.
Speaker CBecause we.
Speaker CNow, what we call dating was not dating.
Speaker CIt was courting.
Speaker CCourting was a completely different concept where, like, a guy and a girl could, you know, could start to speak to one another and start to look into things.
Speaker CBut they were done under supervision.
Speaker BRight.
Speaker CThey weren't alone somewhere, you know, and stories and movies and stuff make it seem like it was more commonplace.
Speaker CBut, you know, it's one of the things I appreciated about the Chosen.
Speaker CThere was an episode or two where the two characters were dating and they had a chaperone all the time.
Speaker CAnd I thought, that's good.
Speaker CThat's responsible.
Speaker BRight.
Speaker CThe show, that.
Speaker CBut, you know, nowadays it's promoted the other way, to the point where, honestly, there was a day I was talking to my daughter.
Speaker CMy daughter is getting ready to turn 16, and I was telling her, I was like, look, this is.
Speaker CYou really shouldn't think about it in these ways because she.
Speaker CShe reads these books and she watches movies and tv and it's just flooded everywhere.
Speaker CDoesn't matter where you go.
Speaker CThere's some version of it out there.
Speaker CAnd when I tell her, look, that's not the way to go.
Speaker CIt should really be this way or it should really be that way.
Speaker CShe one day said something along the lines of, why are you trying to take things.
Speaker CSomething from me?
Speaker CAnd it's like, girl, I'm not trying to take anything from you.
Speaker CI'm trying to help you.
Speaker CI'm trying to prevent you from having to have these regrets.
Speaker CAnd the thing is, like I said, society makes us want to try to think that it's not something to regret.
Speaker CIt's something to be proud of.
Speaker BI'm like, wow, what an Even the regret side, right?
Speaker BLike, it was my choice.
Speaker COh, yeah.
Speaker BIt was still my choice.
Speaker BI still chose that.
Speaker BRight.
Speaker BLike, I was still allowed that Choice, even though it was a mistake.
Speaker BEven the people that believe that it's a mistake, a lot of times are like, yes, but it was my choice.
Speaker BI got to make that choice.
Speaker BOr they play the victim the opposite side.
Speaker BWhere I wish somebody would have told me, would we have listened or would I have listened?
Speaker CThat was the question I asked myself.
Speaker CWould I have listened to reason back then when everything else was telling me different?
Speaker CIt's one thing when you're walking with the Lord and you start to see more of how he designed things for a purpose.
Speaker CIt's easier to look back and go, oh, I should have made better decisions, but would I have listened?
Speaker CYou know, these kids nowadays to try to teach them a better way of thinking about things.
Speaker CI'm at odds with how the world is teaching them things.
Speaker CYou know, like you said, it's their decision.
Speaker CIt's what they can do, but they have no idea where their decision.
Speaker CThey're playing with fire.
Speaker CI played with fire.
Speaker CYep, I played with fire.
Speaker CAnd they're playing with fire even more than, like, they don't even realize it.
Speaker CI watch them again and again, throw their hearts to each other and burn each other in what they believe is true love.
Speaker CAnd perhaps it is a real form of love.
Speaker CBut they're hurting each other constantly because they believe that in this culture, and that's one of the hardest things of working with teens.
Speaker CThey believe that if they don't have someone to date, a girlfriend, a boyfriend, a spouse, that somehow they're lacking in this life at these young ages.
Speaker CAnd if they're not, it's just wild.
Speaker CI feel like I'm watching reruns of my own life, but on fast forward with some of these kids, like, oh, gosh, please stop.
Speaker CYou know, that was one of the things that I was completely like.
Speaker CThe more I really realized why God designed certain things.
Speaker CIn the Bible, you know, it says, you know, for this reason, a man leaves his mother and father and becomes one.
Speaker CAnd what those kinds of things do, both mentally and spiritually and physically, you know, it doesn't leave you.
Speaker CIt's.
Speaker CIt's wild to think about.
Speaker CIt really is.
Speaker BYeah.
Speaker BBut, yeah, you.
Speaker BYou said you.
Speaker BYou were talking about playing with fire.
Speaker BThere's a song I really like.
Speaker BIt's called Arsonist Lullaby.
Speaker BAnd one of the lines in it talks about, don't ever tame your demons, but always keep them on a leash.
Speaker BAnd it's like, that is such the mentality that we have.
Speaker BLike, I was thinking when I was growing up, like, when I was a Teenager, like, ah, I'll flirt with that line, right?
Speaker BAnd.
Speaker BBut the only girls I ever broke up with were girls that, like, it felt like we were progressing too.
Speaker BToo far, you know, like, we hadn't crossed that line, but we had crossed these lines, right?
Speaker BLike.
Speaker BAnd so it was like, well, I'm gonna tame that.
Speaker BI'm gonna.
Speaker BI'm gonna keep that demon on a leash, and I'm gonna break up with her and find somebody different, you know?
Speaker BAnd so, like, I mean, that could be applied to a bazillion things.
Speaker BEven the food, right?
Speaker CYeah.
Speaker BLike, instead of.
Speaker BInstead of learning discipline, right, with food, I just went to, like, Diet Coke or, you know, like, I.
Speaker BYou know.
Speaker BSo, like, I don't know.
Speaker BI just really like that.
Speaker BThat line from the song is like.
Speaker BIt explains so much of our mentality, is that don't.
Speaker BDon't.
Speaker BDon't tame and get rid of the demons, right?
Speaker BLike, the.
Speaker BTheir struggles, the things that you.
Speaker BYou desire, like, keep them on a leash, you know, you.
Speaker BYou can control them.
Speaker CSee, that's.
Speaker CThat's.
Speaker CThat's the idol.
Speaker CThe idol of control.
Speaker CTo think that we have.
Speaker BNo, there's another.
Speaker BA separate idol over your idols, right?
Speaker BLike, yeah.
Speaker CYeah.
Speaker CIt's amazing.
Speaker CWell, I mean, because.
Speaker CSo I think that there's three main types of idols.
Speaker CI think there's the idol of control, the idol of significance, and the idol of comfort.
Speaker CAnd those things are the ones that constant.
Speaker CLike, everything can fall into one of those three, I'm convinced at this point.
Speaker CAnd the comfort thing is scary because especially nowadays with conveniences.
Speaker COh, my goodness.
Speaker CEscapism is.
Speaker CIt's too easy.
Speaker CIt's too easy.
Speaker CI mean, I can open up my phone and escape.
Speaker CIt's.
Speaker CI mean, it's in my pocket.
Speaker BIt's not escape, though.
Speaker BThat's the thing.
Speaker BThat's the big.
Speaker BThe big trick.
Speaker CIt makes you think you're escaping.
Speaker BRight, Right.
Speaker CThat's what I mean.
Speaker BBut it's that carrot, right?
Speaker BIt's that carrot, yeah, that's dangling before you that's leading you right into that trap.
Speaker CBut same thing.
Speaker BYou're caged.
Speaker CComfort goes into how we eat.
Speaker CIt comes into how we, you know, taking entertainment.
Speaker CAll kinds of stuff.
Speaker CAll kinds of stuff and significance.
Speaker CPeople thinking that they need to be significant by any means, but other than our identity and God, which was something else I had to learn because I used to think I was significant.
Speaker CIf I could do something good or I had the right car or I could do the right things with that car, or I could like when I was competing skateboarding, if I could do enough tricks, I could be significant.
Speaker CIf I looked right, if I smelled right, if, you know, if I wore the right clothes.
Speaker CThere was all kinds of different things that made you.
Speaker CThat you were tricked into saying.
Speaker CThis is what makes you significant.
Speaker CAnd people do that all the time.
Speaker CIf you're making a good amount of money, if you got, you got to have.
Speaker CIf you want to be significant, fill in the blank.
Speaker BYeah.
Speaker CYou know, and then control is another thing.
Speaker CPeople don't even realize.
Speaker BI think control that, that leads to all kinds of things, right.
Speaker BLike anger and wrath.
Speaker BThat's all control.
Speaker COh, it's very prideful.
Speaker BYeah.
Speaker BAnd then you've got depression.
Speaker BThat's control.
Speaker BIt's, it's.
Speaker BIt's usually, almost always something that is like, well, I can't control something that's woe is me or whatever that might be.
Speaker BYou know, it's.
Speaker BIt's because you think that you should be able to control all these things and you can't.
Speaker BRight.
Speaker BLike so.
Speaker CAnd if you.
Speaker CAnd then all three idols affect into these things, I think they, they roll over a little bit in different ways.
Speaker CBecause like for instance, what you were describing, if you feel completely out of control, then you feel insignificant.
Speaker CAnd if you feel insignificant, then you feel like you can't be comforted.
Speaker BWell, but even, even if.
Speaker BSo like I'm thinking like depression, right?
Speaker BEven, even sadness.
Speaker BLike if you, if you lost a loved one, that sadness.
Speaker BAnd it's one thing to mourn, it's another thing to be lost in it, right?
Speaker CYeah.
Speaker BWhen you're lost in it, that's a lack of control.
Speaker BI once saw someone that is.
Speaker BYou've got this thing where you've gotta have control, but you don't.
Speaker BSo you're just lost.
Speaker CThere was a girl I knew and it drove me bananas.
Speaker CAlright, so we had this friend and look, it's not that I didn't think that she was actually mourning her friend, but she would force it.
Speaker CAnd here's what I mean.
Speaker CWe had this friend, he was murdered and it was terrible.
Speaker CI was sad.
Speaker CEverybody was sad.
Speaker CI mean, genuinely, we were mourning the fact that he was no longer with us.
Speaker CBut for some time after the initial mourning period ended, I watched this person sometimes start to talk about it and she would repeat a phrase and that phrase would help her get worked up as if to bring on sympathy.
Speaker CAnd I'm like, are you really mourning now or is this for attention?
Speaker CIt drove me nuts.
Speaker CLike this, like, why are you doing this?
Speaker CWhy Are you forcing yourself there?
Speaker BYeah, I feel that because I think of how it should be.
Speaker BRight.
Speaker BBecause I have gone through that in recent months.
Speaker BAbout a year and a half.
Speaker BYear and a half ago.
Speaker BSomething like that.
Speaker BYear and a half, two years ago, I lost my best friend.
Speaker BCar wreck.
Speaker BWell, he got hit by a car.
Speaker BAnd please just understand, like, there's a lot of dark humor.
Speaker BIt was stemmed from who he was, and he was an awesome guy.
Speaker BBut it.
Speaker BAnyways, it was just such a strange thing that happened, and it was like devastating for me.
Speaker BLike, it was the first time I ever.
Speaker BLike, I had so much sorrow that I couldn't stand, you know, like, that was the first time I ever dealt with that.
Speaker BBut I've caught myself.
Speaker BLike, things will come up, a situation, somebody's saying something, and it's like, oh, man, I miss Carl.
Speaker BAnd I might get teared up over that.
Speaker BAnd so looking at the two, right?
Speaker BLike the example of both sides, right?
Speaker BBecause one is like, oh, man, I miss this dude.
Speaker CYeah.
Speaker BAnd the other one is like, I want you to feel bad for me.
Speaker CYeah.
Speaker CYou know, that's what part got me.
Speaker CLike, it's one thing I've had.
Speaker CUnfortunately, I've had quite a lot of people die throughout my life.
Speaker CRelatives, friends, whatever.
Speaker CAnd it's just been wild.
Speaker BYeah.
Speaker CAnd I've had a lot of times where I have been caught up in a moment.
Speaker CAnd I think that's completely healthy.
Speaker BYeah, absolutely.
Speaker CI think it's awesome, actually, to think that, you know, what you did to me, it's God showing you, man.
Speaker CYou did love, you know, love was there.
Speaker CThis is.
Speaker CAnd I don't look them as much as scars as just remnants of love, which is not something to be pushing aside.
Speaker CAnd I don't want to seem not compassionate, but if you're forcing it, then why, like.
Speaker CSo that's what I saw in this girl, was that she would walk into situations and find.
Speaker CIt was like she saw an opportunity to do so and then she would force herself into it.
Speaker CAnd I know I didn't notice it the first time, but when I heard the same phrase bring the same reaction out of her.
Speaker BYeah.
Speaker CI'm like, this is a mantra now.
Speaker CLike, you.
Speaker CWhy are you doing this?
Speaker CAnd then it happened again, and I just.
Speaker CThen I got really irritated at it.
Speaker CI didn't say anything to her, but I was just like.
Speaker CI kind of wanted to at some point, but, like, that's not healthy.
Speaker CThat's purposely.
Speaker CIt's purposely just putting yourself out there just so you can get more Attention and sympathy.
Speaker CAnd I don't think that that would have.
Speaker CThat's not remembering, that's not honoring.
Speaker CThat's just right.
Speaker CThat's self honoring.
Speaker BI guess I am selfish, man.
Speaker BThat's what I was saying earlier, man.
Speaker BAll this stuff, it comes from a mindset of selfishness, you know.
Speaker CYeah.
Speaker CI think about my one friend, the one that passed away, the same guy I'm talking about.
Speaker CI think about him from time to time.
Speaker CHis name is Pat.
Speaker CAnd he was such a.
Speaker CSuch a cool person.
Speaker BYeah.
Speaker CAnd he really just had a different way of looking at things and knew how to make me laugh.
Speaker CI always saw him in the same place I would go to up in Maryland.
Speaker CThere was a certain TGI Fridays that I would go to.
Speaker CAnd every time I went, he was sitting in the same spot.
Speaker CIt was weird.
Speaker CAnd then.
Speaker CSo for a while I had a hard time going in there and not thinking about him because I would look for him in his spot.
Speaker BRight.
Speaker COr like some of the stories that we would tell each other and some of the antics that we did over the years just will come up, you know, Especially because I knew what kind of car he drove.
Speaker CSo, like, I'd think about that.
Speaker CIf I see that car sometimes I'll think about him, you know, kind of thing like that.
Speaker CAnd I think that's healthy.
Speaker CThat's just remembering.
Speaker CThat's just knowing that, you know, you love that person for those reasons and.
Speaker BYeah.
Speaker BYeah.
Speaker BI mean, and I think, I think about Carl.
Speaker BWe literally had talked the week before because we were writing a book together.
Speaker BAnd like, it was just like, I don't know, I can't.
Speaker BI don't know.
Speaker BI want to finish the book, but like, it's hard.
Speaker BIt's hard to get there, you know, Like.
Speaker CYeah, I mean, it's weird because, you know, the genuineness of life is that not only is tomorrow not promised for any one of us, it's not promised for anyone around us either.
Speaker CAnd that's one of the things.
Speaker CLike my grandfather, when he was passing away, I'm one of those guys that always looking for last minute wisdom is what I call it is where you know someone.
Speaker CWhen someone knows they're on their deathbed, it's like, what are they going to.
Speaker ATry to tell you before they go?
Speaker CMy grandfather one day said to me it was really awesome just talking about how, you know, in today's world we have a way of just reaching out so easily to people and just telling them that we love them.
Speaker BYeah.
Speaker CAnd that was one of his regrets in Life is that he didn't.
Speaker CThere were so many times where he didn't reach out to people.
Speaker CHe didn't make the time where he could have.
Speaker CAnd he regretted that.
Speaker COf all the things that he could have been talking about, he was talking about how he wishes he could have just loved on people when he had the chance.
Speaker CAnd, you know, you never know when any day is going to be the last time you see someone.
Speaker BSure.
Speaker CYou know, I remember I had a different friend named Pat.
Speaker CStrangely enough, he was a police officer, and he got.
Speaker CHe was on duty and got killed.
Speaker CIt wasn't that long before that happened that I ran into him randomly in Walmart.
Speaker COh, hey, how's it going?
Speaker CShort, sweet thing.
Speaker CBut I didn't realize that was gonna be the last time I saw him alive.
Speaker BYeah.
Speaker CIt was such a.
Speaker CAnd that was the first thing that went through my mind after I came to the acceptance that he was gone was like, oh, my gosh, that was it.
Speaker CThat was the last time I had to say something to him other than, oh, hey, how's it going?
Speaker CYou know, and, you know, so it's weird to think about.
Speaker CBut anyway, it's kind of somber.
Speaker CWe're not.
Speaker CIt's not very happy.
Speaker CSpeak right now.
Speaker BWell, okay, so bringing it.
Speaker BBringing it back around.
Speaker BLike, I think that.
Speaker BThat there's only so much that you can read something in scripture.
Speaker CYeah.
Speaker BRight.
Speaker BLike, bring it all the way back to the first question.
Speaker BRight.
Speaker BLike, there's.
Speaker BThere's only so much you can read in.
Speaker BIn scripture until you.
Speaker BYou can only understand so much.
Speaker CYeah.
Speaker BBy reading.
Speaker BUntil you experience it.
Speaker BRight.
Speaker BSo.
Speaker BAnd that's something that, I think that you need to be read up so that when you do experience it, like, you'll know the right way to react.
Speaker BRight.
Speaker BThat's the importance of scripture in your daily life, is that when you're going through life and life happens and these different situations come up, you have a.
Speaker BI'm not gonna say you're ready for it, but you have a godly mindset or a more godly mindset than had you not been using scripture on the regular basis.
Speaker BRight.
Speaker CYeah.
Speaker BSo, like, for instance, for you and me have.
Speaker BWe're talking about losing friends or whatnot, and loved ones and whatnot.
Speaker BWe have a basis in scripture that says it's okay to mourn, but there's a time of mourning, and then you got to let that go, take the memories.
Speaker BRight.
Speaker BIt's going to be hard, but, like, you can.
Speaker BYou got to move on.
Speaker BRight.
Speaker BAnd some are going to Be harder than others because we're going to know, okay, this person, I could have hope that this person was, you know, decided to believe in Christ right before he died, but that's probably not the case, you know, like, those are gonna be harder, right, Than like, my buddy.
Speaker BI mean, dude undoubtedly knew Jesus.
Speaker BLike, just undoubtedly.
Speaker BAnd so, like, it was really hard for a short, short bit.
Speaker BBut, you know, it's like I get to see him again and he's probably gonna razz me about getting there first, you know, like, there's that whole mentality towards it, like, I can move on.
Speaker BYou know, we have a hope, but.
Speaker BRight.
Speaker BWe.
Speaker BWe do.
Speaker BAnd, and so, like, if we didn't have a backing of scripture.
Speaker CYeah.
Speaker CThere's all kinds of things you could do.
Speaker BI mean, like, it would be all kinds of loss, you know, like people, you see it all the time.
Speaker BPeople lose somebody and then they can't handle it.
Speaker BRight?
Speaker CYeah.
Speaker BWhether they drink, drink like crazy, do crazy things.
Speaker BDo crazy things.
Speaker BDecide that, you know, their emotions are gonna take them to do daredevilish stuff, you know, whatever that looks like.
Speaker BSo I think that just bringing it back around to that, like, we don't.
Speaker BWe don't know.
Speaker BAnd that goes along with the thing.
Speaker BLike, there's lots of things in life that we don't.
Speaker BThat God's going to reveal to us as we go through it.
Speaker BRight.
Speaker BAnd it doesn't all have to be negative, I guess.
Speaker BLike, it doesn't have to necessarily be sin that we didn't realize was sin or negative things that we.
Speaker BWe didn't realize were going to be that were negative, you know, like.
Speaker BBut it can be good things too.
Speaker BLike, I had no idea, right.
Speaker BLike what it was gonna be like to be a dad until I was one.
Speaker BRight.
Speaker BLike the whole phrase that you hear a lot where it's like, you know, this hurts me more than it hurts you, like, is true on the grandest of scale.
Speaker BBut as someone without a kid, you can have no idea what that means, you know.
Speaker BSo, like, as we go through life, God reveals things, and if we are walking with him in it, he's gonna reveal the best parts of those things and he's gonna walk with you in the hard parts of it.
Speaker BBut he is.
Speaker BYou are gonna experience the best of what God has for you.
Speaker BIf you're walking with him in the things that He's.
Speaker BYou're doing with Him.
Speaker CYeah.
Speaker CBy being, staying, by being read up in the Bible, it gives scripture a chance also to come alive in your life and when that happens, it's not just a book anymore and it becomes real, it becomes reality.
Speaker CAnd man, you're right.
Speaker CIf you spend the time to stay read up to stay in that place, what a difference it'll make.
Speaker BWhat a difference it'll make 100%.
Speaker BAnd that too is what it means to meditate is on it, on his words, day and night.
Speaker BLike man does not live by bread alone.
Speaker BRight.
Speaker BBut by every word that comes from the Lord.
Speaker BLike that.
Speaker BThat's not just reading the words, right.
Speaker BIt's.
Speaker BThat's living within them, you know, so that's good.
Speaker BGood conversation.
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Speaker BYou could do the Korean, like, finger, heart, finger.
Speaker CI don't know how to do this.
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Speaker BYeah, this thing.
Speaker BThat's.
Speaker BThat's the Korean finger, heart thing.
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Speaker CYeah.
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Speaker CI used to do it like that.
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Speaker COkay.
Speaker BThere was a shift at some point.
Speaker BI remember that happening.
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