[00:00:00] Corinne Foxx: Welcome back to another episode of Am I Doing This Right? I'm Corinne Foxx.

[00:00:05] Natalie McMillan: And I'm Natalie McMillan.

[00:00:07] Corinne Foxx: And we are best friends, confidants, millennials, and the hosts of Am I doing This Right? A life how-to podcast from the perspective of non-experts.

[00:00:17] Natalie McMillan: And each week we cover a new topic and we drink a new bottle of wine.

[00:00:23] Corinne Foxx: Why? Yes we do now. And this week we are talking how to embrace being single. Yes. We're gonna be talking about how to cope if you are the only single friend mm-hmm, why singlehood is an important season of your life. And some tips on how to embrace being single. I love it, which I loved being single. I've been single for all of, um, about 14 minutes.

Yeah. But. Every time I am single or I was single. I loved it. It's such a fun time in your life. You're free. It's

[00:00:54] Natalie McMillan: also like, I feel like everybody looks on it like, oh, but like, actually, I don't know why people are so sad about it. Like, I mean, obviously sometimes I'm like, God damn it. But for the most part, I'm like, I'm living so fun.

[00:01:07] Corinne Foxx: You can do whatever you want. I'm living my life. Go wherever you want. You don't have to say anything you I'm telling

[00:01:11] Natalie McMillan: about. You know, I can't be tied down. That's my problem. I know me and my Sagitarius

[00:01:15] Corinne Foxx: Venus. Well, same with Aquarius though. I will say my Venus is in Pisces. I believe that's so we're like a, let a romantic heart, but yeah.

Anyways point being is, I'm very excited for the episode. And at the end of the episode, we're playing who you rather who own brand for being single. Oh yeah. You know, you have your, your pick of

[00:01:37] Natalie McMillan: the litter. True. True. I didn't even, we did that subconsciously. Yeah. Good for us. Good for us.

[00:01:42] Corinne Foxx: So now what are we drinking?

This single episode

[00:01:46] Natalie McMillan: we are drinking. I think Pinots are very like. Hmm. You know what I mean? Mm-hmm, , we're drinking a Pinot. It's a 2018. It's from New Zealand. Mm. And it is a, it's called Mount Edward. I love the art on the front. Let me see him.

[00:02:02] Corinne Foxx: Oh, it's like a woman with like a, her hair is like a nest of flowers and, or she is great.

She is a, she is a vine. She is a vine. Yeah. Yeah. Very cool. I like it. She seems like a single gal.

[00:02:18] Natalie McMillan: Yeah, she does. Well, she is singled. It's just her on the. label. It's also a twist top. Oh, we already love it. Also good for single people because they can just put it right back on the shelf. You know? Gosh,

[00:02:30] Corinne Foxx: this is a wow.

A very on brand episode really did

[00:02:34] Natalie McMillan: thing. I do have some news that I need to tell you. Oh my God, I'm scared. And I was telling her, like, I was gonna tell her this off air, but I might as well just say it now. Oh God, it's a little morbid. Oh Lord. Okay. I think my neighbor

[00:02:51] Corinne Foxx: died. I think he died. No. How do you know?

Okay, so wait, backstory.

[00:02:54] Natalie McMillan: Yeah, the backstory. I have a neighbor who is, I can't even, I do not know how old

[00:03:00] Corinne Foxx: this man is. At least at least. 85 mid to late eighties, if not 90 years old.

[00:03:05] Natalie McMillan: Yes. And he, you know, he has, his health has not been great he's he has like an oxygen tank and all this stuff. He's frail, very so frail.

The, uh, ambulance came one day and this is when I looped Karen in, because I was like, oh my God, we have drama on my street. Yeah. We thought he was taken out. We thought, oh, some this is big drama. He came back. and he has, he was like there, he would sit on the steps of his house for.

[00:03:36] Corinne Foxx: The entire day and Natalie, I mean, not that, I mean, it was, well, it wasn't that bad, but she would send me pictures of him.

Like I, and you couldn't tell if he was dead on the stoop. Exactly. Like he was just laying there and like, if I were you, I would've called the

[00:03:50] Natalie McMillan: ambulance every day. Oh, I was so concerned because I would honestly look at him and like, is he breathing or is, has he passed when I, I was out of town and my neighbor sent me a Snapchat mm-hmm and she was like, oh my God, I won't say his name, but he.

She's like, I heard this huge crash and I looked out my window and he had fallen off the stoop because he fell asleep, sitting up. So it's just been like, oh my God, what is hap this man? Yeah. And then yesterday I came home and nobody's there. All the lights are off. I'm like,

[00:04:27] Corinne Foxx: I think don't you think your, your you're live neighbor would've told you.

She also wield his

[00:04:34] Natalie McMillan: body away. She had, she didn't, she didn't see anything cuz she doesn't. She works out of yeah. Her, her home, but she was like,

[00:04:43] Corinne Foxx: I think, I don't know now the way that this guy has been holding on, I wouldn't be surprised if he's out in the stoop tomorrow and

[00:04:50] Natalie McMillan: that's why I've Le cor and I have been keeping tabs on this because it's like, how has this man?

I mean, he, he must be imor. .

[00:04:59] Corinne Foxx: Yeah, but I will say sometimes one little fall, like that really throws someone out. Yeah. Yeah. So we'll see. I'll keep you guys updated. Let us know if he's here. Might still

[00:05:09] Natalie McMillan: be on the stoop. I might get home and he's on the stoop again. I wow. And if not, may he rest in peace? R I

[00:05:16] Corinne Foxx: P to Natalie's neighbor.

Yes . Anyways, let's get into a morbid, let's get into how to embrace being single at all. Why we chose this episode?

[00:05:27] Natalie McMillan: yes, I was gonna make a really bad joke. Just I I'm not going to. Okay. This was a actual listener requested topics

[00:05:36] Corinne Foxx: we love when you guys write in and ask us, do do an episode. We love to

this

[00:05:41] Natalie McMillan: girl slid into my DMS and requested this.

And I. We absolutely should do this. Yeah. There's so much information out there about dating and relationships, marriage. All of it, but there's not a ton of stuff about single life and what it all entails. Mm. And it also seems, you know, to have like a bad rap when really it can be one of the happiest and most fulfilling times in your life.

[00:06:06] Corinne Foxx: I love being single. Yeah. Not who. Is single.

[00:06:10] Natalie McMillan: So according to the Washington post, just over half of 18 to 35 year olds. So if it's 51% to be exact, um, have no steady partner. Ooh. And while a 2008 study published in the European journal of social psychology found that other people often think singles are unhappy.

The happiest demographic. Actually be single childless women. Mm-hmm and that's according to Paul Dolan, he's a professor of behavioral science at the London school of economics. And he is an author of

[00:06:44] Corinne Foxx: happy ever after. I will say, I feel like whenever you see older single women, like, they're always like, oh, I'm so happy.

I didn't have kids. I' so happy. I didn't like, they're always just like, my life is so much better. Yes. Same with like Jennifer Anderson, Tracy Elli Ross. They're just like, we're thriving over here. Yeah, we have, we don't. No men and no kids. They're like, we're really living our best life. Yeah. I mean,

[00:07:05] Natalie McMillan: I'm not mad about it.

No. So why do you think so many people are single? Or why

[00:07:10] Corinne Foxx: scientifically? Yeah, well, actually women are having fewer children and they're actually having them later in life. So the median age for the first marriage is actually increasing. So in 2021, the median age for a woman's first marriage was 28.4 years old, which is like, exactly.

How old we are. Yes. No, it's it's ex exactly how old

[00:07:33] Natalie McMillan: you are. Exactly how old I am. I'm 28.6.

[00:07:36] Corinne Foxx: Yeah. I'm so you're 28.44. So yeah, that's the median age for a woman's first marriage. Now, as opposed to 10 years earlier, the median age for a woman's first marriage was 26.6 years old. Wow. So two

[00:07:48] Natalie McMillan: years in 10.

[00:07:50] Corinne Foxx: In 10 years, 10 years.

Yes. Interesting. And, and actually the same goes for men too, whose median first marriage age was 30.3 years old in 2021, opposed to 28.6 years old, 10 years prior. Wow. I mean, it makes sense. And it kind of like, I looked at the statistics and it kind of like tracked like that. Like it's like two years, every 10 years.

So like when my mom was my age, it was. 22 or 24 years old, kind

[00:08:17] Natalie McMillan: of. So in 10 years in we'll make a prediction in 2032. It would be 30.8 years old for

[00:08:29] Corinne Foxx: women? For women. Yeah. I feel like that tracks. Yeah. Like I like a lot of, I don't have, I have one friend. I have two friends who are married. That's it. Me too.

The rest of my friends are all well they're they have partners, but they're not married. Yeah. Well also another reason that maybe specifically millennials are single is that they may be staying in education longer and focusing on their careers. For arriving to life events like home ownership and marriage.

In fact, single women are slightly more employed today, 77% compared to 74% of partnered women.

[00:09:05] Natalie McMillan: I wonder if that has to do with, if they have kids or not like if they're stay at

[00:09:08] Corinne Foxx: home moms. Yeah, no, I, I definitely think so. Could be. All in all pew research center says the increase in the number of single people isn't due to divorce or being widowed.

It's all just because people have not found their person. Wow. They write that all of the growth in the unpartnered population since 1990 has come from a rise in the number of people who have never been married. Okay. So it's not like people are getting divorced and now there's more single people it's really that people.

Aren't getting married. Yes. They're being more specific. Yeah, but it might not be that they haven't found the right person, but that singles aren't even looking for the right person. Mm-hmm also according to the pew research center, we love the

[00:09:51] Natalie McMillan: pew

[00:09:51] Corinne Foxx: research center. Half of singles say they're not currently looking for a relationship or dates while about a quarter, say they are looking for either a committed, romantic relationship or casual dates in a smaller share.

Say they are only looking for committed romantic relationships or casual dates. So really most single people aren't even looking for somebody they're just out here. Yeah. They're booked and busy. Yeah. I kind of

[00:10:16] Natalie McMillan: feel like that. I feel like I'm just like out here. Yeah. They're like, whatever happens. Great.

[00:10:21] Corinne Foxx: Yeah. They're, they're not like actively actively, like, I need to find

[00:10:24] Natalie McMillan: somebody, like we had a friend who was like, I will be in a relationship and she was. Actively

[00:10:30] Corinne Foxx: dating. Yes. And she found one. She did. She did. So Natalie, what are some science backed ways we can embrace being single. We love science. We love

[00:10:42] Natalie McMillan: on the show.

Love science, and we love an expert. So let's talk about this expert. She has a book called how to be single and happy. She's a clinical psychologist. Dr. Jennifer Tates and she shares some science backed hacks for living your life without stressing over your relationship status. She wrote her book after she had broken off an engagement and found herself feeling defeated about the dating scene.

Although it should be noted that she says she's now married to a guy that she is crazy about. Curra see about the first tip she says is to immerse yourself in meaningful activities and enjoy the moment. Research shows that happiness is more about how you spend your time than if you are in a relationship or not.

The fact of the matter is that you can be lonely or depressed and still be coupled up living a happy life is a combination of doing meaningful activities, having social support and practicing mindfulness. So that was a direct quote from her. For example, let's say you're at your favorite band's concert, but all you can think about is how.

Whoever you're into, like, didn't text you back. Yeah. You're like, you're taking yourself out of the moment and you're not enjoying it. So if you didn't have that aspect, you would otherwise be. loving your life. Yeah. You know, so yeah. Just do things that you love to do. Go places. You wanna go experiment with new hobbies, pick up old ones again, just do you,

[00:12:12] Corinne Foxx: do you live your best life?

Don't worry about anybody else. Yeah. I love that. Another science backed tip to embrace being single is to recognize that not all your thoughts are facts. And also just in general. Yeah. Breaking a negative thought cycle. Like I'm never gonna find love or. All the people worth dating are already taken.

That's a tough one to break. Yes. But Dr. Tate suggests that you remind yourself that not everything running through your head is based in reality. She also recommends affirmations, which we love love, even in affirmation. Even if you think they're kind of cheesy because they will help you break thought pattern.

So one of her favorite. When you're feeling hopeless and dating is I'm surrounded by cool single people. And today could be the day I meet someone. Amazing. Do you wanna wanna know something? Wow. I love that. Okay. So when we recently sounds like the beginning of a. Romcom. Ooh,

[00:13:06] Natalie McMillan: take notes. Maybe you'll write it.

When we researched this episode, I was like, oh, I like that. And I've actually been like saying it to myself. And then when I open that, cuz sometimes, you know, I am part of this cycle of like, oh my God. Like the,

[00:13:20] Corinne Foxx: the dating pool

[00:13:21] Natalie McMillan: is, oh Jesus. But I think that now and I go into it and I'm like, well, let's

[00:13:26] Corinne Foxx: see.

Well today, it could be the day I meet someone. Amazing. Yes, it really could be.

[00:13:32] Natalie McMillan: All right. Her third tip. Don't wait to be in a relationship to pursue your life goals. If you're single and unhappy, it's crucial to ask yourself one very important question. And that is how would being in a happy relationship, change your life, make a list of those things, and then start doing.

Now. Mm mm-hmm Dr. Tates also adds, this is a quote. I want to validate how incredibly challenging it is to be single. When you want to have a family while she doesn't pretend that being a single mom is easy. She says, if one of your. Big life goals is to be a parent. It is worth exploring the options for doing it solo, especially if you're in your late thirties or early forties.

And in her book, she discusses egg freezing adoption, and she also talks fostering with her. Yeah. With her clients.

[00:14:23] Corinne Foxx: We we know somebody who's in her late thirties who is starting her single mom journey. Yeah. Which is so cool and empowering. Yeah. But, but I also was talking to her and she was like having a lot of fears about like, oh my God, I'm doing this by myself.

Like, I'm doing this by myself. And obviously there are a lot of single moms who are not single moms by choice and, and it's just a difficult decision to make. Yeah. But it also, it. Option. It is an option and we wanna keep our options open. Yes. Another science back tip to embrace being single is to use your past, to inform and not sabotage your future.

Hmm. What should you do if painful experiences from the past, whether it be from romantic relationships or even platonic and familial ones are stopping you from trying again. First step is to try as hard as you can to stop thinking about that situation. And particularly the person I see this all the time, I feel like a lot of people have like a negative relationship and they have a lot of fear about getting in another one.

Yes. Which makes sense. It's like a happen again. It's very traumatic, you know? If it is a romantic relationship that left you burned. Dr. Tate says you absolutely have to unfollow them on social media. And you also have to make it a rule to stop talking about them with your friends.

[00:15:39] Natalie McMillan: Well, that makes sense, cuz if they're, if you see them on the feed and you're talking about them all the time, like they're on

[00:15:44] Corinne Foxx: your mind, they're in your Zeke Geist.

Yep. Avoid comparing the people you are dating to your. Or previous situation ship mm-hmm by doing so you were preventing yourself from actually moving on to someone better. She says, however, that you can take a moment and think about the aspects of them that you really liked and make sure that you seek that out in another.

Person as well. Mm-hmm but also think about things he didn't like. Yeah. Like I don't like that. Pro and con pro and con list. Yeah. Dr. Tates also wants to remind people that our memory plays tricks on us. We often remember the good parts and forget the bad. So next time you find yourself daydreaming about how things with so and so word, remind yourself that there is a reason the two of you are not together.

It is you do, when you look back on relationships, you play the highlight reel. Yeah. You know, you're like, oh, that was so nice. And then you forget about the time, like you just couldn't even be around them. You couldn't, you hated the way they chewed you hat all that. And you're like, oh yeah. Forgot about that.

There's sheer

[00:16:40] Natalie McMillan: existence of irritating. Yeah. Yeah. So our fifth and final tip is don't put your date on a pedestal. But go ahead and hop on there yourself. Okay. There's a fine line between looking forward to meeting someone new and being overly hopeful that your date is the one mm. Fantasizing about a date can be just as harmful as thinking back to painful experiences, because it can cause you to make false assumptions about the person.

If you desperately want your date to be your next boyfriend or girlfriend, you could be blinded to some OUS, red flags. Mm. Instead, focus on the now that way you can truly gauge if the person you're out with is right for you or not. Mm that's a good point. Yeah. That's a good point. there's also another tip that she shares.

And this one she says is a biggie and it is don't think you have to change yourself just to be dateable. She says there are so many dating books out there that tell you, you have to make over your appearance or personality. And that is not the path to happiness. The kinder you are to yourself, the happier you

[00:17:46] Corinne Foxx: will be.

I love that. I, I fully agree. Yeah. Yeah. You want someone to love you for you?

[00:17:52] Natalie McMillan: Well, yeah, cuz it's. At some point it will fall apart cuz you're gonna end up being yourself at some point. Yeah. You know, mm-hmm okay. How do you cope if you are the only single person in your friend

[00:18:03] Corinne Foxx: group? Yeah, I mean, I know, I feel like that can be a big stressor for a lot of people.

Mm-hmm so according to. ASA Bob, a sex dating and relationship coach. She says that being surrounded with friends who are at a different life stage to us can cause us to feel left behind and leave USS wondering why it hasn't happened for us yet, or if it ever will. So one way to cope with being the only single friend is to embrace being a third wheel.

And I know, I know it doesn't sound great, but yeah, it's like, mm. But being invited as a third wheel can actually be a compliment and serves as a great way to get to know your BFF's significant other a little bit better and hanging out with them alongside your pal can be a really great way to bond. And at the end of the day, Third wheel is a totally made up concept.

And shouldn't even dictate how you enjoy yourself with your friends, regardless of whether or not they're dating. And also it is a compliment. It's like, oh, like, do you wanna come on our like, yes, on our

[00:19:08] Natalie McMillan: personal time, you know what I mean? Right. And that's interesting. I'm thinking about how, like we've said.

It's sort of like, oh, it's so sad for them. They're single. This whole like third wheel concept is like, oh, that's so sad when it's like, that really is made up. It's like a made up thing. That's a whole made up thing. Another way we can embrace being the only single friend is to not settle as the only single friend in the group, the temptation to settle can be overwhelming.

However, you really don't need to settle just because you're the odd one out. Yeah. You don't need to feel

[00:19:40] Corinne Foxx: pressured.

[00:19:40] Natalie McMillan: It's just. But if you are understandable. Yeah. You know what I mean? Mm-hmm and we're also at this age where it's all over the map, it's all over the map. Yeah. A third way to embrace being the only single friend is to stop comparing yourself.

Nothing brings home the fact that you're very single, then tirelessly scrolling through your friend's engagement photos on social media. Social media can be the worst place when you're feeling a bit down about being single. So avoid it. If you're feeling sensitive, sometimes it can feel like. Everyone else has hit some sort of relationship shaped target that you can't even see the idea that other people have got it all figured out while you're being left behind can be very damaging.

We all have completely different timelines and life goals. So wherever you're at, it's just fine. Remember not to compare yourself to other people as you navigate your way through single.

[00:20:36] Corinne Foxx: And also means just to go back to what we were saying at the beginning with the facts, like how all of these timelines anyways, are getting pushed.

Everyone's doing everything later anyways. And so it's just like, there is no timeline. There is no, it's all fake. It's all

[00:20:51] Natalie McMillan: like literally life and all the quote unquote rules is made up.

[00:20:55] Corinne Foxx: Like who's dictating all this, the government trying to sell us things, honestly.

[00:20:59] Natalie McMillan: Capitalism alert. Yes . Okay. Why is singlehood an important and special time Ko?

[00:21:09] Corinne Foxx: Yes. Well, I, first of all, I just love singlehood mm-hmm um, and I just wanna mention here that if you're single and you really wanna feel great about it, one of my favorite movies of all time is how to be single. It really is. She does love that movie. Wait, Dakota Johnson. It is amazing. It's

[00:21:24] Natalie McMillan: rebel Wilson.

And right.

Yeah,

[00:21:26] Corinne Foxx: it's her too. But it's like, she comes out of like this relationship. She has been in all of college and she doesn't know how to be single and rebel Wilson takes her out on the town and just making it out with guys. And it's just so

[00:21:37] Natalie McMillan: fun. Anyways. I watched that with you in New York. I remember that.

Oh my God. It's loved

[00:21:42] Corinne Foxx: it. It's so good. Okay. So why singlehood is an important and special time. The first reason is that you have an opportunity to strengthen your friendships. Focusing on your relationships with close friends can be a nice way of reminding yourself that romantic isn't the only kind of love and that a solid friendship can be just as enduring special and meaningful as any long term partnership.

[00:22:06] Natalie McMillan: I mean, we've been together longer than most. Yeah. We've been together a long

[00:22:10] Corinne Foxx: time, a long

[00:22:11] Natalie McMillan: time. This is a long term, long relationship, which we've been long distance. We've been long distance. I mean, listen, we, we travel well together. It's a whole thing. Another reason that it's. Super special. As you get to date yourself, many people get hung up on not getting flowers, dinners, candy, jewelry, spa trips, or whatever other romantic gifts spontaneously, you know, are given to you.

Yeah. Or especially on holidays. I think people feel alone. The thing is you can treat yourself to those items or experiences regularly. We mentioned in our, how to fall in love with yourself episode, but you can literally go on dates with yourself, like a real ass date. Yes. Take yourself to dinner in a movie.

Karen loves on a show.

[00:22:57] Corinne Foxx: I love going to twin dinner in a movie alone,

[00:22:59] Natalie McMillan: booking a solo travel trip. Also won of

[00:23:01] Corinne Foxx: Karens family. I love doing that. Yeah. Also like I was on a trip with Joe. We were in London and I said, well, I didn't say this. We had it planned this way, but he was going home. And I was like, I wanna stay a few days by myself.

Yeah. So I just loving alone. Yes,

[00:23:14] Natalie McMillan: yes, yes. And I will also say I get myself flowers, dinners, candy, and jewelry. I, I guess I don't get myself spa trips. Get yourself a spa trip. Well, I guess I get myself like massages. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Yeah. So I do treat myself to all of those things. Treat yourself.

Self, the third reason that this is a special time is that you commit to yourself. The one person you can always count on to be there for you is you. That's why it's important to make a bunch of commitments to yourself, to be gentle with yourself, to look after yourself and to be grateful for all the great things in your life.

We're regularly told that finding a partner will make us happy, but the real challenge. In gaining any long term contentment is to have a good kind and healthy relationship with yourself. Yes. This is also a great time to focus on your health, whether it be mental or physical, the time alone gives you the opportunity to get a game plan together for yourself.

So you can feel your best. In fact research. That unmarried people tend to be healthier than their married counterparts. Mm. People who were single and had never been married exercise more frequently every week than married people. And this was in a survey of over 13,000 individuals. Oh, wow. Yeah.

[00:24:33] Corinne Foxx: Hey, that makes sense because you have more time yeah, truly you have more time for

[00:24:38] Natalie McMillan: everything.

[00:24:39] Corinne Foxx: And the fourth reason that singlehood is a great time, is that the more you get to know yourself, the better off you will be when the time for relationship comes around. If you were in a relationship when you were younger, let's say when you were in high school, you probably would look back on it and think, oh God, I don't even know.

Person was back then. Mm-hmm maybe your last partner hated running and you always wanted to try a marathon or perhaps you dreamt of traveling to Hawaii, but you were waiting for a partner to share those romantic massagers on the beach with instead embrace your own independence. Being single means you get to be with you and learn who you are at your core.

You get to like really explore yourself. And then also that just makes you a. Interesting and well, rounded person to date when you decide you want to yes. If you

[00:25:24] Natalie McMillan: ever do. I feel like for me, when I think of like the benefits of being single it's, like I genuinely have spent this time, like knowing myself mm-hmm like, I know myself, I've like gotten into my career.

and I don't think I could have done that as deeply. Yeah. If I was in like a long term relationship.

[00:25:47] Corinne Foxx: Yeah. Yeah. So we hope that you guys learn more about embracing being single, how to cope if you're the only single friend and why singlehood is an important season of your life, which we wanna do an episode on season life, season seasons of your.

I just feel like it's it is giving coastal grandma. My

[00:26:07] Natalie McMillan: God, I can't wait to be a coastal grandma.

[00:26:10] Corinne Foxx: okay. Now, so let's circle back on the wine that we're drinking. What, when is this?

[00:26:15] Natalie McMillan: It is the Mount Edward Pinot. Okay. It's from New Zealand. It's all the way from New Zealand is, is her party of the week from New Zealand.

She's from South Africa. Oh, she's from South Africa. Yes, actually, I had this, this sounds really weird, but this is a normal thing that happens in Napa. You'll have people that come just for harvest and they stay in your house. Like they pay you rent and she stayed in your house. Oh, absolutely not that would've been cool.

no, she's not a farmer. Oh. But the guy that came was from South Africa. So he would like make south African food. And he also said, you always need to say South Africa.

[00:26:52] Corinne Foxx: Oh, south, South Africa, South Africa.

[00:26:55] Natalie McMillan: That's what he said. Okay. So yeah, our hot. From South Africa and it is, I never know if it's Charlie's or Char's.

[00:27:03] Corinne Foxx: I think it's

[00:27:04] Natalie McMillan: Char's Theron, Theron, their.

[00:27:07] Corinne Foxx: Oh, shoot. I was gonna say, well now sh now I don't know what I was gonna say. Char's the Theon Theon, Theon, I think. Okay.

[00:27:14] Natalie McMillan: Whenever I say okay. If I just say it after Charlie's Theon. Oh, I say Charlie's Theon. That can't be pronounce.

[00:27:22] Corinne Foxx: Yeah. How do you, okay, here it is.

Here it is. Oh, there's a, there's a, okay, here we go. I'm gonna play this for you guys. Chars, Theon, chars, Theon.

[00:27:32] Natalie McMillan: All right. So we, you were right.

[00:27:35] Corinne Foxx: I got her first. Name, right. But I said Theran it's Theen it's Char's Faren. I think I got Faren. Right? You got Faren, right? You said char, this is why we're a good team.

See her long

[00:27:47] Natalie McMillan: term partnership. See all right. So one, two Char's Theen the fact

[00:27:53] Corinne Foxx: that Google has a woman that says her name when you Google.

[00:27:56] Natalie McMillan: It is crazy. you know that that's probably because it's been Googled by so many times a billion times.

[00:28:01] Corinne Foxx: Okay. One to Charlene the.

[00:28:06] Natalie McMillan: I don't I'm I don't really like it.

[00:28:08] Corinne Foxx: Don't I don't like it. I'm gonna give it a three. Yeah. I'll give

[00:28:11] Natalie McMillan: it, like, I wouldn't send it back. No. With a meal. I would be like, cool. But I'll give it a three. It's a three. Yeah. It's a three out of Char's Char's there. Yeah.

[00:28:27] Corinne Foxx: All right. This is the part of the gate. Part part of the game. This is part the show where we play a little wrap up game and this week we're playing. Who would you rather, who would you rather, I feel

[00:28:36] Natalie McMillan: like it's been a long time since we've played this.

[00:28:38] Corinne Foxx: Yes. I also feel like we have the same one, but it's fine.

[00:28:42] Natalie McMillan: No, there's no way.

[00:28:42] Corinne Foxx: There's no way. Okay, cool. Cool. Cool, cool, cool. Cool. Okay. You go first. Well, we, we have just recently seen top gun. Oh

[00:28:51] Natalie McMillan: no. And they're

[00:28:53] Corinne Foxx: all hot. I know. Okay. So, and this is all of them. In top gun. It's not in real life. Okay. Who'd you rather Tom cruise? in top gun. Oh, miles tell, oh God damnit Glen Powell.

And it's, it's not only have one and it's not. Fuck Mary kill. It's who'd you rather Jesus. And I will say. I said it once. I'll say it again. The, the spray Tanner on that movie needs an Oscar. They do need an Oscar. Everyone looked fantastic. Oh my God. They, and they were like almost a little bit too orangey, but it still worked.

They were

[00:29:28] Natalie McMillan: SW, but it was also, it was an orangey more like, because it was sunset or something like at all times though. Oh, God. All right. Well now I'm not a Tom cruise person, but I will say he, he was, he was looking nice in this movie, but he's not the one. He's

[00:29:44] Corinne Foxx: not the one. Okay. He's out. He's out of the running.

Oh

[00:29:47] Natalie McMillan: God. Between Glen and miles teller. So it's funny because after I saw this movie, cuz Glen tell or Glen teller Glen Powell is like, historically not my type at all. Mm-hmm mm-hmm and I saw this movie and I. Oh baby daddy, Glen Powell. this man has me feeling some type of way, but okay. Oh, it's so hard.

Okay. Okay. Okay. Whoa, because this is only in the movie

[00:30:12] Corinne Foxx: in the Mo it's a movie version.

[00:30:14] Natalie McMillan: Okay. Because in real life, I believe it would be baby daddy, Glen Powell. Mm-hmm but. Movie version, I'm going miles teller

[00:30:20] Corinne Foxx: with the stash, the stash. It's the stash that threw it over the edge. I love the stash. I know it.

I know. Yeah.

[00:30:27] Natalie McMillan: And just the fact that he did what he did in the film. Yes.

[00:30:32] Corinne Foxx: Yes. I, I totally get it. Yeah, I totally

[00:30:35] Natalie McMillan: get it because baby daddy, Glen Powell in the movie, isn't.

[00:30:38] Corinne Foxx: Asshole. He's an asshole. Yeah. So, yeah. That's true. Yeah. If we're talking in the movie

[00:30:43] Natalie McMillan: yeah. We're talking the movie strictly, so yeah, the St wins.

[00:30:47] Corinne Foxx: I think that's a very fair, I think that's the right choice for you. That was

[00:30:51] Natalie McMillan: a tough one. That was a real tough one. Okay. So I only have two people. Okay. Who's your other could, and it is. Childhood slash teen crush. Okay. And current crush. Oh, okay. So I know we had a lot back in the day, but one of yours was Joe Jonas.

Mm-hmm . That was one of your crushes mm-hmm and today it's Austin Butler. Okay. Yeah. I feel like it's been on the top of everybody. Everybody's feeling Austin Butler. Okay. So it's who' you rather mm-hmm Joe Jonas. Austin Butler.

[00:31:22] Corinne Foxx: See, here's the thing it's like, I would, I wanna do right by childhood me. Yeah.

You know what I mean? Yes, I get it. And I'm like, this has been a dream. It's an opportunity, obviously, we're, we're talking about a single version of Joe Jonas because he's married, but I think a child and one on the way I believe so. Not born already. Yes. So we're gonna take that off the table. Single Joe Jonas or Austin Butler.

Now here's the thing I've never been into blondes ever. I love a brunette. I love tall, dark handsome, Joe, Jonas. Very much. My, my tight,

[00:31:55] Natalie McMillan: short, dark

[00:31:56] Corinne Foxx: handsome. Oh yeah. He, well, yeah, he's a short king. He's a short king for sure. But there's something about Austin Butler right now with a little swag. He's got, I feel like I gotta go Austin Butler.

I feel like I have, so this is interesting. So I would never said that. Six months ago. Oh my

[00:32:15] Natalie McMillan: God. Well, that's how I feel about baby daddy, Glen Powell. Cause I'm like, there is no, I'm never attracted to blondes and I'm like, this man is your classic blonde stud. I also

[00:32:25] Corinne Foxx: think though, and I'm wondering if this is what it is because Austin Butler similarly has some type of spray tan going on.

Oh, he does. Yes, he does. And Glen Powell. And I wonder if we're actually attract the spray tan

[00:32:38] Natalie McMillan: maybe because they look healthy. Like they've been in the sun, they

[00:32:42] Corinne Foxx: look very healthy. Like I'm just thinking of like this part of their chest. Their muscles looks very, it just looks sun kissed. Yes. And I think, I think that might be part of this mix that I, I think I love a sun, a sun kissed man.

Hey,

[00:32:57] Natalie McMillan: I am not mad at it. I'm not mad

[00:32:59] Corinne Foxx: at it. I'm not mad about it. So I apologize to 14 year old. Me who would've died if I ever said anything else, but Joe Jonas. Yeah, but this is just, this is a sign of the times guys.

[00:33:08] Natalie McMillan: It's a new day. It's a new day. It's a new era.

[00:33:10] Corinne Foxx: All right, you guys, that is who'd you rather, and if you guys like this episode, we have other similar episodes.

We have episode 78, which is how to fall in love with yourself. And also episode 35, which is from app to IRL, how to get off the apps. on a date. That was a great episode. That's a great episode.

[00:33:28] Natalie McMillan: I feel like that one's overlooked because how to fall in love with yourself is like one of our all

times.

[00:33:33] Corinne Foxx: Yeah.

But episode 35 from 35 from app to IRL, there's a lot of good facts in there. If you guys are really frustrated about like dating apps and like, you can just like, I just wanna be on a date already. Go check out that episode. Cause it's a really good one.

[00:33:46] Natalie McMillan: Yes. And also rate and

[00:33:48] Corinne Foxx: review the pod. Yes. We love reading your rate in reviews and we love hearing from you guys always, and we'll be back next week with another episode, our hundredth episode.

Oh my God.

[00:34:01] Natalie McMillan: Tune in. Oh my God. I'm so excited.