Have you ever felt really hands-off with someone when they've given you a no, and
Speaker:all that goes through your mind as well.
Speaker:I don't get to say no, how come you do?
Speaker:And then we end up saying that someone is flaky or they're
Speaker:acting a little bit entitled, or we even call them a snowflake.
Speaker:And we end up almost feeling bullied by somebody else's boundaries.
Speaker:And we start to tell ourselves all these stories that it's just not fair.
Speaker:I don't get to do that.
Speaker:Why do they?
Speaker:It's just because I'm the boss.
Speaker:If only I had that luxury of being able to say no, or set some boundaries,
Speaker:And I was talking at a conference the other week, and I had
Speaker:this question from the floor.
Speaker:And the question was Why is it that I can't say no to others, yet I
Speaker:have to put up with other people saying no to me all the time.
Speaker:How does that work?
Speaker:And I've been thinking about this and I've realized that I can get really upset
Speaker:with other people's boundaries, and in the past, I think I've thought that the
Speaker:reason I've been upset and angry by it is that they have been unreasonable, that
Speaker:other person has done something that is unreasonable and caused me to be angry.
Speaker:I thought that I felt upset because that person was wrong, or angry
Speaker:because that was my needs and they are treading all over it and just
Speaker:being unfair and unreasonable.
Speaker:And we all know that when we don't get what we want, we become angry
Speaker:and then we can end up getting really insulting, and even if we don't say
Speaker:it out loud with things to ourselves They say flaky or there's such a
Speaker:snowflake or why can't they cope?
Speaker:And we may go into guilt mode then and feel like, well, I've got to just
Speaker:leave everything now I've got to rescue everybody else because that person has
Speaker:set their boundaries up, and it can make us feel incredibly frustrated.
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Speaker:Now I was listening to a talk by Brene Brown recently.
Speaker:And she said something that stopped me in my tracks.
Speaker:And in fact, when I looked at her book, the Atlas of the Heart, which I would
Speaker:highly recommend to everybody, in the book she says that when she first heard
Speaker:this, it stopped her in her tracks too.
Speaker:Because in Atlas of the heart.
Speaker:Brene Brown talks about all the different emotions that we feel.
Speaker:And she groups them into different classes of emotion.
Speaker:Now when somebody sets boundaries with me, one of the foremost emotions.
Speaker:I feel is resentment.
Speaker:And Brene Brown talks about resentment.
Speaker:She says, it's an old friend she's known resentment and bitterness all her life.
Speaker:But recently she found out that resentment, rather than belonging to
Speaker:the anger category of emotions, actually belongs to the envy category affirmations.
Speaker:Now that brings it into an whole other ballpark.
Speaker:Because the emotion of envy is incredibly different from one of anger.
Speaker:Anger is when someone has traipsed on our boundaries when
Speaker:our needs aren't being met.
Speaker:But envy.
Speaker:Is when somebody else has something that we want.
Speaker:It doesn't mean that somebody else has done something to us.
Speaker:It means that we have an emotion that we want what they want.
Speaker:And side note, they described jealousy as the emotion you feel when you're
Speaker:in a threesome and someone else has something from someone else that you want
Speaker:and you're pushed out because of that.
Speaker:Now envy can make us feel hostile.
Speaker:It can make us feel angry and irritated, but it has a very different route.
Speaker:And what envy can do is show us what we wish we had.
Speaker:So when I'm envious, when someone says no to me, I'm envious
Speaker:that I can't say no to them.
Speaker:When someone puts up a boundary and says, I'm sorry.
Speaker:I can't do that particular thing you've asked me to do I feel envious
Speaker:because I feel that I can't say no to that particular thing as well.
Speaker:So then the problem is not all about them.
Speaker:It's actually all about me.
Speaker:And Brene Brown puts it so well in the book.
Speaker:She says she had thought processes a bit like this.
Speaker:I'm not mad 'cause you're resting.
Speaker:I'm mad because I'm so bones hide and I wants arrest.
Speaker:But unlike you, I'm going to pretend that I don't need to.
Speaker:Or I'm not furious that you're okay with something that's
Speaker:really good and imperfect.
Speaker:I'm furious because I wants to be okay with something that's
Speaker:really good and in perfect.
Speaker:And this line: your lack of work is not making me resentful.
Speaker:My lack of rest is making me resentful.
Speaker:You see if we take our anger about someone else's boundaries, and we realize that
Speaker:anger is coming from resentment, we start to look at ourselves and we can start say
Speaker:What is this showing me about what I need?
Speaker:What do I wish I was able to do?
Speaker:And what happens, it then points to a need that I have.
Speaker:And a need that I need to meet.
Speaker:Not other people.
Speaker:And it points to something that rather than someone else doing
Speaker:for me, I need to do for myself.
Speaker:Now there will be many, many situations where people listening to
Speaker:this podcast are the boss, and the buck does stop with them, and they
Speaker:are going to have to do something.
Speaker:If someone else says no.
Speaker:And they feel that they don't have any choice.
Speaker:Side note, we always have a choice, but you have probably decided that
Speaker:the consequences of not doing it.
Speaker:And not something that you want to live with, or you feel
Speaker:professionally that you can do.
Speaker:But I would just ask you when you do feel resentful that other
Speaker:people can set boundaries and not you, what is that underlying need?
Speaker:And even if in that situation, you have to go ahead and do that, what
Speaker:is there that's the next best thing?
Speaker:What else do you, could you do to meet that need that you've got?
Speaker:You see, I don't think we're very good at recognizing our needs, particularly,
Speaker:not as healthcare professionals.
Speaker:We're so used to expecting other people's needs to come first, to
Speaker:meeting other people's needs, that sometimes we've actually forgotten what
Speaker:it is that we need in the first place.
Speaker:But envy can show us what we wish we had, and recognizing when we're
Speaker:feeling envious is a great way of showing us what we really want.
Speaker:And if we can't recognize envy, then maybe we can start to recognize resentment
Speaker:and resentment that points towards envy.
Speaker:' Cause I don't know about you, but all my life, I felt quite
Speaker:resentful about quite a few things.
Speaker:About the fact that I was stuck at home.
Speaker:A lot of the time with the kids and I can go and travel.
Speaker:I was resentful about the fact that I had to bear the brunt of the childcare, when
Speaker:actually, instead of asking for what I needed, I played the victim and actually
Speaker:didn't do anything about it myself.
Speaker:And I wonder if any of you have had any of these phrases go through your head ever.
Speaker:Things like Well, I don't get to say no.
Speaker:Or Well, I don't get to take time off work.
Speaker:I can't just leave on time.
Speaker:I don't get to shut down my laptop at six o'clock and forget about my
Speaker:emails for the rest of the evening.
Speaker:So by recognizing resentfulness as envy rather than anger because we've been
Speaker:wrongs against, we can start to turn our questions from What have they done to me?
Speaker:To what is it that I'm not asking for?
Speaker:The question says from what is that person doing wrong?
Speaker:What do they need to do?
Speaker:To what I need to ask for, for myself?
Speaker:To what do I need, but I'm afraid to ask for?
Speaker:So when you recognize this, here's a couple of questions that might help.
Speaker:Firstly ask What is it that I am envious about?
Speaker:Is it I am envious that they can set a boundary?
Speaker:Is it that I'm envious that they can say no?
Speaker:Is it that I'm envious that they could bring that thing up with
Speaker:me that they're able to have that conversation whereas I'm not?
Speaker:Am I envious that they don't feel the need to rescue everybody?
Speaker:That they don't feel the need to take on all this responsibility?
Speaker:Once I can pinpoint that, then I can start to see what the underlying need is for me.
Speaker:And you can ask yourself, Well, what actually is that need?
Speaker:Is it for food, rest connection, those basic wellbeing factors?
Speaker:Is it that I want someone to look out for me rather than me
Speaker:looking out for everybody else?
Speaker:Is it that I need to lend to negotiate better?
Speaker:Maybe it's that I want better working conditions.
Speaker:I want a fair workload for myself.
Speaker:Once you've recognized what need there is, you could go deeper and
Speaker:think to yourself, Actually, what is stopping me from meeting this need?
Speaker:And here we can go as deep as you want, but I think we'll end up
Speaker:back with our old friend shame.
Speaker:Is it that I can never admit weakness?
Speaker:Is it that I can never admit that I'm not coping or I feel ashamed that I'm not
Speaker:coping because I think I should always be able to tip it all because doctor is
Speaker:always there and never has any needs?
Speaker:Is it that I feel ashamed saying no.
Speaker:And causing someone else an inconvenience?
Speaker:Or that I feel guilty.
Speaker:And I'm worried that people will think I'm dumping on them and not
Speaker:taking my own share of responsibility?
Speaker:Is it that I'm frightened, anxious about what might happen if I don't
Speaker:step up and ignore all of my needs?
Speaker:So there's old friends or fear of shame and guilt raised the ugly head,
Speaker:and are often behind us not being able to ask for what we need, and
Speaker:not being able to meet our own needs.
Speaker:Now I know that we're all working in a very complex, very stressed,
Speaker:very difficult system, and sometimes we just look at the bare facts and
Speaker:think It's actually going to be very, very difficult to meet our needs.
Speaker:And if you're in a situation where there's just not enough resources, not
Speaker:enough people, not enough time, so you feel that you have no option, I'd like
Speaker:you to ask yourself this question.
Speaker:If I could wave a magic wand, this would all be fixed.
Speaker:What would be happening?
Speaker:And this is a really helpful coaching question, because what it does,
Speaker:it just removes all those barriers that we have, all those things that
Speaker:get in the way like, Well, I could never afford that, or I haven't got
Speaker:enough time or there's no people.
Speaker:You know, if you had all the money in the world, All the time in the world.
Speaker:Enough stuff, what would be happening?
Speaker:And you will come out with some very unrealistic things that will never happen.
Speaker:But I have noticed that when I've asked myself this question, there was
Speaker:some things I said, well, if I wasted magic on this would be happening
Speaker:that actually I could make happen now with just a little bit of ingenuity
Speaker:and resourcefulness on my part.
Speaker:You know, for example, if I could wave a magic wand, I would have a
Speaker:magic housekeeper who would be doing all the housework, doing all the
Speaker:cooking, meeting all of our needs and cooking amazingly delicious food.
Speaker:Now.
Speaker:I can't afford that.
Speaker:I don't even know where to start looking.
Speaker:But I could start upping the hours that my cleaner works, and I could
Speaker:start ordering more food boxes so there are some really nice food,
Speaker:just there, ready for me to eat.
Speaker:So what ways can you get as close as you can, to that magic idea
Speaker:where your wand has been waved and you've got everything that you need?
Speaker:What could you put in place now that would really help?
Speaker:And then finally, I would ask you, how can you express that need
Speaker:and ask for that need to be met?
Speaker:Many of us worry about looking weak or upsetting people if we even express our
Speaker:needs, but there are ways to do this.
Speaker:Just saying, you know, I have this need.
Speaker:I am feeding like this, in a non accusational way.
Speaker:Not because you've done this, I'm feeling like this, but phrasing it
Speaker:as, this is how I'm feeling right now, this is what I think I need, and if you
Speaker:want, so you can even say, you know, and I've got these stories in my head.
Speaker:It's telling me that I shouldn't do this, that I should always do this.
Speaker:And I guarantee that people will start to listen to you, they will
Speaker:start to notice and you know, what?
Speaker:They'll come up with some suggestions.
Speaker:The other day, somebody dropped out from something they had committed
Speaker:to doing, through no fault of their own, through some family illness.
Speaker:I automatically assumed it was something that I had to say and I had to cover.
Speaker:And I was starting to feel quite resentful about it and a little bit hard done by,
Speaker:and I was really going into victim mode.
Speaker:Um, luckily I managed to speak to someone about it.
Speaker:And they just said, Well, that's ridiculous, we'll
Speaker:get that person to do it.
Speaker:And I'll ask somebody else who I thought we could possibly ask, because that was
Speaker:unreasonable and it was not a big deal.
Speaker:But for some reason, stories of guilt, stories of, Well, I ought
Speaker:to, um, the buck stops with me, were going round my head and it stopped
Speaker:me from asking for what I need.
Speaker:So just because you can't see a solution to an issue, it doesn't mean you
Speaker:can't express what you need, because oftentimes other people can say solution.
Speaker:And they may well volunteer to help out in places where you would never
Speaker:have expected them to do that.
Speaker:We often assume that someone else can't do something or it's going to put someone
Speaker:out, but unless we ask and let's express what we need, we're never going to know.
Speaker:So next time somebody sets the boundary or says no to you or sets some limits
Speaker:on their time or their attention, instead of thinking it's something that
Speaker:they've done wrong to you that they need to change, start looking at it.
Speaker:Start recognizing that feeling you get is resentment, which
Speaker:points towards an unmet need.
Speaker:Something that you're envious of.
Speaker:Start to delve a little bit deeper.
Speaker:Think What is that need that I'm not expressing?
Speaker:How can I identify that need?
Speaker:What's stopping me expressing it?
Speaker:And what could I do now to try and meet that need, even if it's not in
Speaker:the most, a hundred percent ideal way, what is the next best thing?
Speaker:Now, please start expressing your needs, setting your own boundaries.
Speaker:Because the more you can set your own boundaries.
Speaker:And express your needs.
Speaker:The less resentful you'll be when other people do it to you.