One question we don't ask enough is how do I feel on like an emotional level?
Speaker:Another question that we absolutely probably never ask is how can I tell?
Speaker:Your emotions and the underlying sensations of those emotions are directly
Speaker:connected to your polyvagal state.
Speaker:I want to help you connect with those inner experiences so that you can develop
Speaker:more mindfulness and self compassion.
Speaker:Hi, I'm Justin Sunseri.
Speaker:I'm a therapist and coach who helps you live with more calm,
Speaker:confidence, and connection without psychobabble or woo woo.
Speaker:Welcome to Stuck Not Broken.
Speaker:What you're about to hear is a clip from an open Q& A from within the
Speaker:Stuck Not Collective community.
Speaker:A member asked how to tell if their safety state is strengthening.
Speaker:And this is where the conversation went.
Speaker:As a reminder, the podcast is not therapy, nor is it a replacement for therapy.
Speaker:The polyvagal stuff is we can feel it.
Speaker:We can feel it as it happens.
Speaker:We can notice that as it happens.
Speaker:If we're mindful enough, if we can, if we're conscious enough of what's
Speaker:happening internally, we can feel it.
Speaker:It's a, it's a physical process.
Speaker:It's not emotions and things aren't these like spiritual things lingering
Speaker:within us that have no tangible, you know, like there's no concreteness.
Speaker:Like these are concrete things.
Speaker:Um, emotions are just our conscious experience of what's happening internally.
Speaker:it's, it's physical, it's real.
Speaker:Part of, um, UDS, the third phase, the third course, part of that
Speaker:is it teaches you how to feel them, how to, how to mindfully,
Speaker:compassionately feel these things.
Speaker:Before your safety states developed, it's probably feels like it's all over
Speaker:place and out of control and maybe even random, but as you strengthen
Speaker:your safety state, then you'll be able to mindfully consciously feel these,
Speaker:uh, emotions within you, but you'll feel them for, you know, as emotion,
Speaker:maybe, but underneath that emotion is.
Speaker:Some sort of a sensation.
Speaker:So what that means is if I ask you, like, when's the last time you felt, we'll
Speaker:say happy or joy or something like that.
Speaker:I don't care.
Speaker:Anger.
Speaker:It doesn't matter.
Speaker:But if I ask you to, when's the last time you felt X, you might
Speaker:say, Oh, I felt it last week.
Speaker:And my question would be, well, how do you know you felt it?
Speaker:How do you know you felt happiness?
Speaker:How do you know you felt anger?
Speaker:And the way you know that is because you feel it.
Speaker:And so there's a way to describe what's happening within you.
Speaker:So you would describe like my anger felt like whatever.
Speaker:X, Y, and Z.
Speaker:My sadness felt like, you know, X, Y, and Z.
Speaker:So there's a conscious, tangible level we can get to with these things.
Speaker:And beyond just labeling them as sad, or angry, or happy, or whatever.
Speaker:There's, there's, we can describe these experiences.
Speaker:Because they are, they are there's something happening within us.
Speaker:There's, there's a felt, uh, experience of these things.
Speaker:So as you, as we all shift up and down the polyvagal ladder, we can, we
Speaker:can feel those shifts taking place, uh, as they're happening, uh, after
Speaker:they've happened the next day, we might be able to think back and say,
Speaker:Oh yeah, there was this moment where I shifted and thinking back on it, I can.
Speaker:I can, you can feel it again, or I can describe what I went through.
Speaker:But yeah, as we go up and down the ladder throughout the day, we, we will, we can,
Speaker:we have the capacity to notice those, those shifts, uh, even right now, even
Speaker:though you might not be actively shifting, you're in some sort of state, all of
Speaker:us are in some sort of state right now.
Speaker:And we can, we can feel that.
Speaker:Take a moment for yourself.
Speaker:Actually, I'll ask you a real simple question, everybody.
Speaker:You don't have to share if you don't want to, just for yourself.
Speaker:Right now in this moment, do you feel more like hugging somebody, uh, running away,
Speaker:hitting something or hiding
Speaker:or staying perfectly still and waiting,
Speaker:but just for yourself or say that a lot, if you'd like to, what do
Speaker:you feel more like in this moment?
Speaker:Now, what do you want, but what is your on a body level?
Speaker:What does your body feel more like?
Speaker:What does it want to do?
Speaker:Does it want to be close to someone, be close to a pet?
Speaker:Does it want to look inward with curiosity?
Speaker:Does it want to run away?
Speaker:Does it want to avoid something?
Speaker:Does it want to hide?
Speaker:Does it want to throw?
Speaker:Does it want to hit?
Speaker:Does it want to yell?
Speaker:Does it want to scream?
Speaker:Does it want to tear apart the room
Speaker:or collapse and shut?
Speaker:No, don't use the word shut down, collapse and hide and be in dark.
Speaker:What is the flavor of what you're going through?
Speaker:What -not- doesn't have to be exact, but just, it feels more like.
Speaker:This thing and the other thing.
Speaker:So if you can identify that, then that tells me you've gotten a step closer to
Speaker:just feeling whatever state you're in.
Speaker:Eventually we can feel deeper into that and feel the, uh, the
Speaker:underlying sensations of of your state, let's take us one step further.
Speaker:Um, I'm going to push all of you.
Speaker:Don't don't share it, but I want to encourage you to identify what state
Speaker:you're in not at least the dominant state.
Speaker:It's possible to have a mixture of these different states, but I want
Speaker:to encourage you to identify the dominant state that you are are in.
Speaker:Okay?
Speaker:Before we wrap it up here, I'm gonna take it 1 step further.
Speaker:If you feel more like hugging and connecting, and if you feel more
Speaker:like smiling or being with a pet or being alone with yourself and
Speaker:sipping on tea and smiling, you're probably in your safety state.
Speaker:Okay.
Speaker:Congratulations.
Speaker:If you are feeling more like running away, avoiding something, avoiding
Speaker:responsibility, if you feel like you're in danger, it's probably flight
Speaker:that's a, it could be a flight thing.
Speaker:If you're feeling more aggressive, you want to yell, you want to
Speaker:dominate, you want to feel angry, um, that's probably more fight.
Speaker:If you feel tense, if you feel frozen, if you feel like screaming, if you
Speaker:feel like panicking or rageful, or like destroying a room, that's probably
Speaker:more like, or destroying a space, that's probably more like freeze.
Speaker:And then if you feel like collapsing and darkness and being alone, that's
Speaker:probably more like shut down, okay?
Speaker:No one is actually doing any of those things, but you might, your system might
Speaker:be flavored by one of those things.
Speaker:So, identify your, just your most dominant state if you can.
Speaker:The next step would be, how can you tell that you have that state?
Speaker:How does, what does it feel like?
Speaker:What do you feel inside of yourself that tells you that you have that state?
Speaker:And you don't have to do it out loud, but that, that's the question is no matter
Speaker:what state you're in, how do you know?
Speaker:Is it based on what you want?
Speaker:Is it based on what your body needs?
Speaker:Or is it based on an overwhelming emotion that you're noticing?
Speaker:Are you noticing a part of your body that's more active than others?
Speaker:I guess that would be actually the next step, next question is.
Speaker:So how can you tell what state you're in?
Speaker:How do you know?
Speaker:And where does it live in your body?
Speaker:That'd be the next step, maybe.
Speaker:Where do you feel that?
Speaker:Where do you most feel that?
Speaker:Is it all over, like a blanket?
Speaker:Is it in your stomach?
Speaker:Uh, does your chest feel something more than the rest of your body?
Speaker:Do you feel tension in your neck or shoulders?
Speaker:Do you feel, are your legs bouncing with anxiousness?
Speaker:So, yeah, how do you, how can you tell what you feel and where do you feel it?
Speaker:And this is as far as we'll take it.
Speaker:But if you can notice what you feel, where you feel it, the
Speaker:emotions of it, like, that's great.
Speaker:Do the priority of safety.
Speaker:So, uh, for right now, if you notice some defensive activation, just let
Speaker:it be there because it already is.
Speaker:So just let it be there, validate it.
Speaker:Maybe you can normalize it, but just let it be there.
Speaker:And I would encourage everyone to prioritize anchoring in safety.
Speaker:Just do something that feels generally good.
Speaker:All right?
Speaker:Use one of the Building Safety Anchor practices, get the right environment, do
Speaker:some sort of movement, have music on just whatever it is that helps you to sort
Speaker:of anchor a little bit more into safety.
Speaker:Thank you so much for joining me on Stuck Not Broken.
Speaker:I hope this episode has helped you to connect with yourself a little bit more.
Speaker:Take a moment and ask yourself the same questions from the episode.
Speaker:What are you feeling emotionally and how can you tell?
Speaker:What is the experience of that emotion in your body?
Speaker:Take a moment to reflect or even journal about it if you can.
Speaker:I've created a free resource for you in the Member Center.
Speaker:It's the SSIEC table and it'll help you build language to connect your
Speaker:polyvagal state with various emotions, impulses, sensations, and cognitions.
Speaker:You can access this plus more resources and even a free course by becoming a
Speaker:free member of the Stucknaut Collective.
Speaker:Head on over to JustinLMFT.com/members, or just follow the link in the description.
Speaker:Bye.