1 00:00:01,110 --> 00:00:07,680 A new study by Asana looked at over 10,000 knowledge workers across 2 00:00:07,680 --> 00:00:16,140 seven countries, and they found that approximately 70% of people experienced 3 00:00:16,140 --> 00:00:20,900 burnout in the last year, 70%. 4 00:00:22,580 --> 00:00:25,440 Is that number shocking to you or. 5 00:00:26,669 --> 00:00:29,550 Does it seem pretty much on par with what you know? 6 00:00:30,035 --> 00:00:30,090 ? Yeah. 7 00:00:30,390 --> 00:00:34,650 Burnout's not new, and news of burnout is not really news. 8 00:00:35,400 --> 00:00:38,519 So why is it still an issue? 9 00:00:39,330 --> 00:00:41,879 And more importantly, what can we actually do about it? 10 00:00:42,930 --> 00:00:44,489 We know about it. 11 00:00:45,030 --> 00:00:46,110 We know that it's a thing. 12 00:00:47,010 --> 00:00:50,489 Why have we not been able to fix burnout? 13 00:00:51,720 --> 00:00:56,820 There are solutions for employees, for leaders, for organizations that 14 00:00:56,820 --> 00:01:01,710 begin with rethinking and reimagining what organizations look like. 15 00:01:02,280 --> 00:01:06,480 But first, it's important to look at the gravity of the situation. 16 00:01:09,720 --> 00:01:12,240 Welcome to Passion and Profits Without Burnout. 17 00:01:12,570 --> 00:01:13,830 I'm your host, Jacob Moore. 18 00:01:14,415 --> 00:01:19,305 I'm a speaker coach, childhood suicide loss, survivor and filmmaker who left 19 00:01:19,305 --> 00:01:21,795 Hollywood to follow my heart of service. 20 00:01:22,020 --> 00:01:25,950 I've helped tens of thousands of people find the balance in their 21 00:01:25,950 --> 00:01:29,190 life between passion and profits. 22 00:01:29,220 --> 00:01:33,570 On the show, I'm gonna teach you how to build a trauma responsive, 23 00:01:34,300 --> 00:01:39,600 resilient, and impactful community and organization, all without burning out. 24 00:01:40,380 --> 00:01:41,340 Let's get started. 25 00:01:47,370 --> 00:01:53,790 Okay, so on this episode about self-care and burnout, we are gonna 26 00:01:53,790 --> 00:01:56,340 be talking about three major topics. 27 00:01:56,730 --> 00:01:59,850 First, that burnout is real and has serious impact. 28 00:02:00,120 --> 00:02:03,470 Second, the way we work needs to change. 29 00:02:04,110 --> 00:02:08,550 Beginning with self-care and third, productivity and self-care 30 00:02:08,970 --> 00:02:11,700 aren't mutually exclusive. 31 00:02:12,000 --> 00:02:14,310 But first, a little context. 32 00:02:14,760 --> 00:02:21,750 So sustainable self-care is the fourth of my core four of impact leadership. 33 00:02:22,320 --> 00:02:26,460 The first being mission, mindset, the second being, uh, 34 00:02:26,490 --> 00:02:28,560 professional and personal progress. 35 00:02:29,040 --> 00:02:33,360 The third being a compassionate culture. 36 00:02:33,795 --> 00:02:35,775 And the fourth sustainable self-care. 37 00:02:36,585 --> 00:02:43,545 Now, arguably, sustainable self-care should have been first, because we 38 00:02:43,545 --> 00:02:50,325 can't really be great leaders creating a compassionate culture and focused on 39 00:02:50,330 --> 00:02:55,125 our personal and professional progress if we're not practicing self-care. 40 00:02:56,205 --> 00:02:58,365 But nobody wants to talk about self-care. 41 00:02:59,205 --> 00:03:02,415 It's, you know, cliche at this. 42 00:03:03,675 --> 00:03:08,535 Fill up your cup before you can fill up others, and people 43 00:03:08,535 --> 00:03:09,405 don't really want to hear it. 44 00:03:10,155 --> 00:03:12,165 Well, too bad. 45 00:03:12,195 --> 00:03:15,255 I'm here to tell you that it's, it's important to talk about. 46 00:03:15,585 --> 00:03:22,365 And, um, we're gonna do so today from the perspective of the work 47 00:03:22,395 --> 00:03:27,765 that you do and the fact that it is so incredibly important for you 48 00:03:27,765 --> 00:03:31,245 to take care of yourself, not so that you can take care of others. 49 00:03:31,905 --> 00:03:36,375 So that you can live the life you wanna live, which may include taking care 50 00:03:36,375 --> 00:03:42,165 of others, but most importantly, so that you get what you want outta life. 51 00:03:43,484 --> 00:03:43,845 All right. 52 00:03:44,355 --> 00:03:46,635 That's enough for the peer pressure around this. 53 00:03:46,665 --> 00:03:49,185 Now, let's talk facts and figures about. 54 00:03:50,040 --> 00:03:51,120 Sustainable self-care. 55 00:03:51,600 --> 00:03:55,890 All right, so let's talk about this first topic, the fact that burnout 56 00:03:55,890 --> 00:03:58,890 is real and has serious consequences. 57 00:03:59,070 --> 00:04:02,670 Back to that study that I shared at the beginning of the show, 58 00:04:03,600 --> 00:04:09,480 nearly two thirds of people are experiencing burnout in the workplace. 59 00:04:09,960 --> 00:04:15,840 And folks, that's just one of many studies that popped up when I Googled. 60 00:04:16,905 --> 00:04:18,795 Burnout in the workplace. 61 00:04:19,095 --> 00:04:21,345 Uh, this is not a new phenomenon. 62 00:04:21,555 --> 00:04:30,585 Uh, this predates covid and workers are not interested in working 63 00:04:30,585 --> 00:04:32,835 in stressed out environments. 64 00:04:33,405 --> 00:04:35,085 They're not interested in burning out. 65 00:04:35,715 --> 00:04:42,615 Uh, it's an old school way of thinking that we can somehow just grid. 66 00:04:43,665 --> 00:04:52,395 And bear it through the stress and be able to, you know, will ourselves through this. 67 00:04:52,575 --> 00:04:54,345 This thing called burnout. 68 00:04:55,785 --> 00:05:00,585 If you don't believe me, here's a study by the Mayo Clinic. 69 00:05:02,385 --> 00:05:07,485 Ignored or unaddressed job burnout can have significant consequences. 70 00:05:08,670 --> 00:05:13,830 Including excessive stress, fatigue, insomnia, sadness, anger or irritability, 71 00:05:13,860 --> 00:05:17,520 alcohol or substance misuse, heart disease, high blood pressure, type two, 72 00:05:17,520 --> 00:05:21,120 diabetes, and vulnerability to illnesses. 73 00:05:22,590 --> 00:05:28,349 Folks, that list seems like I'm, uh, I'm, I'm talking about, you know, a 74 00:05:28,349 --> 00:05:35,159 lifetime of, of, you know, poor diet or smoking or other high risk behaviors. 75 00:05:35,164 --> 00:05:37,590 We're, we're talking about going to work here. 76 00:05:38,580 --> 00:05:45,000 Creating cardiovascular issues, creating high blood pressure, 77 00:05:45,000 --> 00:05:47,159 creating mental health challenges. 78 00:05:49,080 --> 00:05:56,700 What, and the thing is, is no one is impervious to that. 79 00:05:57,390 --> 00:06:02,070 And if you think you are my friend, let me tell you from experience. 80 00:06:04,275 --> 00:06:05,835 You are not special. 81 00:06:05,835 --> 00:06:06,974 I mean, you're special. 82 00:06:07,065 --> 00:06:12,615 Like you're, you're, you're special, you're unique, um, but you're just as 83 00:06:12,620 --> 00:06:16,275 susceptible to burnout as anyone else. 84 00:06:17,294 --> 00:06:22,695 And if you're feeling it, please gimme a thumbs up because I 85 00:06:22,695 --> 00:06:24,044 know I have been there before. 86 00:06:24,075 --> 00:06:26,055 And folks, it's real. 87 00:06:26,594 --> 00:06:31,275 It is beyond just feeling stressed or feeling it. 88 00:06:32,804 --> 00:06:35,354 Upset about stuff or being unhappy with work. 89 00:06:35,474 --> 00:06:38,594 And this is like real deal business here. 90 00:06:40,304 --> 00:06:46,844 So that leads me to my second point, which is the way that WeWork needs to change 91 00:06:47,114 --> 00:06:50,804 and that starts with self-care first. 92 00:06:50,804 --> 00:06:51,914 I think it's important to. 93 00:06:52,800 --> 00:06:53,969 Define self-care. 94 00:06:54,450 --> 00:06:57,030 Um, because we're not talking about bubble baths. 95 00:06:57,120 --> 00:07:02,520 We're not talking about, you know, taking, you know, a, a break and, 96 00:07:02,550 --> 00:07:04,080 you know, scrolling through TikTok. 97 00:07:04,560 --> 00:07:09,240 Um, this is not even, you know, a mental health day. 98 00:07:10,440 --> 00:07:17,970 Sustainable self self-care means an integration into our daily lives in a 99 00:07:17,970 --> 00:07:21,240 way that mitigates stress and allows. 100 00:07:22,350 --> 00:07:29,220 Our baseline, our our homeostasis to be in effect so that we can 101 00:07:29,220 --> 00:07:32,580 be as productive as possible. 102 00:07:34,470 --> 00:07:40,470 Some ways that burnout can be prevented include adequate 103 00:07:40,470 --> 00:07:44,600 rest, healthy diet, exercise. 104 00:07:45,585 --> 00:07:50,895 Setting aside everyday time for things like relaxing, enjoyable activities, 105 00:07:51,315 --> 00:07:56,115 spending quality time with friends and family, practicing good time management. 106 00:07:57,555 --> 00:08:01,755 That is a tough one, which by the way, just a side note, I've been 107 00:08:01,755 --> 00:08:07,905 using a program called Sun Samma and uh, it has changed my life 108 00:08:07,965 --> 00:08:11,175 as far as time management and. 109 00:08:11,534 --> 00:08:14,534 Really helping to determine priority projects. 110 00:08:14,805 --> 00:08:18,405 I'm gonna leave a link in my, uh, show notes here. 111 00:08:18,794 --> 00:08:21,945 Uh, sun Samma is the name of this, uh, this program. 112 00:08:22,155 --> 00:08:22,995 It's really fantastic. 113 00:08:22,995 --> 00:08:24,135 Integrates with your calendar. 114 00:08:24,525 --> 00:08:27,525 I'm not getting paid to say this, it's just something that I, I really 115 00:08:27,525 --> 00:08:29,594 enjoy and has worked well for me. 116 00:08:29,985 --> 00:08:32,475 Um, but uh, on I go. 117 00:08:34,064 --> 00:08:38,985 So practicing good time management, knowing and accepting one's limitations. 118 00:08:39,194 --> 00:08:41,905 Oh my gosh, do I have a challenge with that sometimes? 119 00:08:43,034 --> 00:08:45,795 Uh, and learning to say no. 120 00:08:46,920 --> 00:08:49,260 And no is a complete sentence. 121 00:08:49,530 --> 00:08:49,980 Right. 122 00:08:50,460 --> 00:08:54,890 Uh, and I, I think we're gonna have a future episode where, where we're 123 00:08:54,890 --> 00:09:00,630 gonna talk about, um, boundaries in the workplace, uh, and the, the use of, how 124 00:09:00,630 --> 00:09:07,110 can we use this word no in a way that, um, doesn't, doesn't make people hate us. 125 00:09:07,680 --> 00:09:08,550 Uh, I digress. 126 00:09:09,030 --> 00:09:12,270 So, um, there are are many ways that we can. 127 00:09:14,209 --> 00:09:19,844 , um, self-care as, you know, a mitigator of stress and burnout. 128 00:09:20,324 --> 00:09:25,694 Um, but l let me just give you one quick actionable tip here. 129 00:09:25,724 --> 00:09:29,295 Usually I save these for the end, but it's, it's gonna be inserted right here. 130 00:09:29,954 --> 00:09:32,535 Um, 20 minutes is, is all you need. 131 00:09:32,954 --> 00:09:35,475 Um, This can look like meditation. 132 00:09:35,475 --> 00:09:36,465 It can look like movement. 133 00:09:36,465 --> 00:09:40,665 It can look like time outside, um, you know, connecting with 134 00:09:40,665 --> 00:09:42,795 some type of support system. 135 00:09:43,185 --> 00:09:47,025 Um, 20 minutes on your calendar. 136 00:09:48,195 --> 00:09:49,545 Write it on your calendar. 137 00:09:49,665 --> 00:09:56,805 Include it in your daily agenda, and ideally do it before 138 00:09:57,165 --> 00:09:59,325 you begin work 20 minutes. 139 00:10:00,715 --> 00:10:03,480 , and here's the, here's the key folks. 140 00:10:04,710 --> 00:10:07,800 It needs to be done in a vacuum. 141 00:10:08,490 --> 00:10:15,330 Meaning don't try to multitask your self-care time while you're driving to 142 00:10:15,330 --> 00:10:21,990 work because despite what you may think that may be relaxing for you, you still 143 00:10:21,990 --> 00:10:26,100 are focused on the road or your, you know, podcast or whatever else you're doing. 144 00:10:26,910 --> 00:10:29,760 There is, there are things occupying your attention. 145 00:10:30,600 --> 00:10:37,650 I'm talking about 20 minutes without distractions, without your social media 146 00:10:37,650 --> 00:10:40,650 up, without listening to other people. 147 00:10:40,980 --> 00:10:43,830 Take 20 minutes for you. 148 00:10:44,820 --> 00:10:48,810 Go in your room, go in your office, close the door, draw the shades. 149 00:10:49,230 --> 00:10:53,880 Uh, put your dun up, disturbs up, and spend 20 minutes. 150 00:10:55,185 --> 00:10:57,375 For just you on just you. 151 00:10:57,495 --> 00:11:03,015 And you'll be amazed at what a huge difference it will make if you cannot 152 00:11:03,015 --> 00:11:05,025 do it in first thing in the morning. 153 00:11:05,055 --> 00:11:11,084 If you cannot preload your day with this self-care, then please take time during 154 00:11:11,084 --> 00:11:18,555 lunch or take time as you end your day as a ritual for closing out the day. 155 00:11:18,584 --> 00:11:23,204 That can be a fantastic way to leave your stress, uh, and. 156 00:11:24,480 --> 00:11:25,290 At work. 157 00:11:26,640 --> 00:11:28,950 So, uh, we'll, we'll talk more about that. 158 00:11:29,190 --> 00:11:36,450 I got lots of tips and, um, and processes for, uh, including self-care in your day, 159 00:11:36,750 --> 00:11:38,670 um, stealing moments throughout the day. 160 00:11:39,060 --> 00:11:41,160 Um, we don't have time for all that today. 161 00:11:41,220 --> 00:11:42,480 We'll have a future episode on all that. 162 00:11:43,080 --> 00:11:46,950 Um, so let's move on to this third topic, which is, um, the fact 163 00:11:46,950 --> 00:11:51,960 that productivity and self-care aren't mutually exclusive, argu. 164 00:11:52,625 --> 00:11:57,600 , taking time for self-care, taking time for things like meditation and, um, 165 00:11:58,050 --> 00:12:03,689 you know, eating well, uh, moving our bodies, connecting with support systems, 166 00:12:04,170 --> 00:12:08,340 uh, allow us to be more productive. 167 00:12:09,329 --> 00:12:15,810 Um, but I, I think it's important to get our definition straight here. 168 00:12:15,900 --> 00:12:18,569 Um, so I, I keep saying stress and burnout. 169 00:12:21,120 --> 00:12:26,010 Here's, here's a quick, easy differentiation between the two. 170 00:12:26,580 --> 00:12:33,450 So stress is having too much on your plate, too much work to 171 00:12:33,450 --> 00:12:37,680 handle, too many responsibilities, too many hours spent working. 172 00:12:38,250 --> 00:12:41,760 Okay, so stress is the result of too much stuff. 173 00:12:43,020 --> 00:12:46,680 Burnout, on the other hand, is the opposite. 174 00:12:47,610 --> 00:12:51,690 Burnout means that you don't have enough. 175 00:12:52,620 --> 00:12:58,920 You don't have enough motivation, you don't have enough energy, not enough care. 176 00:13:00,960 --> 00:13:01,560 Stress. 177 00:13:02,775 --> 00:13:07,485 Having too much of all these things can lead to burnout and 178 00:13:07,490 --> 00:13:10,395 this feeling of not enoughness. 179 00:13:10,965 --> 00:13:16,515 So if you have entered into a phase of not enoughness, feeling like you 180 00:13:16,520 --> 00:13:21,705 do not have enough resources, enough time, enough energy, enough cares 181 00:13:21,710 --> 00:13:25,755 to give, then buddy that's burnout. 182 00:13:27,435 --> 00:13:32,835 I also wanna point out that stress in and of itself isn't necessarily a bad thing. 183 00:13:33,885 --> 00:13:39,285 Stressors can motivate us to perform, to achieve. 184 00:13:40,305 --> 00:13:44,145 They can be positive in small doses. 185 00:13:44,715 --> 00:13:47,370 . Um, when we're talking about stress, that leads to burnout. 186 00:13:47,370 --> 00:13:51,510 When we're talking about that too much, it is to a level that 187 00:13:51,510 --> 00:13:53,940 is no longer sustainable for us. 188 00:13:54,180 --> 00:13:56,730 Uh, that is more than we can handle. 189 00:13:57,180 --> 00:14:03,300 Um, but stress in and of itself isn't necessarily, you know, the, the evil, the, 190 00:14:03,300 --> 00:14:05,790 that we may feel like it is sometimes. 191 00:14:06,900 --> 00:14:12,150 So in conclusion, uh, burnout is real and it has a serious impact. 192 00:14:12,690 --> 00:14:17,340 The way that we work needs to change, starting with self-care and productivity 193 00:14:17,430 --> 00:14:20,610 and self-care aren't mutually exclusive. 194 00:14:20,730 --> 00:14:25,380 In fact, self-care supports our ability to be productive, 195 00:14:25,385 --> 00:14:27,470 taking just 20 minutes a day. 196 00:14:28,050 --> 00:14:34,500 Can lead to greater focus and greater energy throughout the day and can 197 00:14:34,939 --> 00:14:37,290 actually increase our productivity. 198 00:14:37,890 --> 00:14:43,829 Folks, I just wanna wrap up here by reemphasizing the importance 199 00:14:43,920 --> 00:14:49,860 of self-care and, uh, bringing us back to the core four. 200 00:14:50,640 --> 00:14:54,689 And if, if you're not interested in self-care for 201 00:14:54,689 --> 00:14:57,120 your own sake, uh, then, then. 202 00:14:58,410 --> 00:14:59,280 Do it for the kids. 203 00:14:59,850 --> 00:15:05,850 Do it for the work that you do for the sake of what you want 204 00:15:05,850 --> 00:15:08,010 to accomplish in your life. 205 00:15:09,060 --> 00:15:16,740 The core four of impact leadership are mission, mindset, uh, compassionate 206 00:15:16,740 --> 00:15:23,340 culture, professional and personal progress and sustainable self. 207 00:15:24,675 --> 00:15:26,865 Helps us achieve all those things. 208 00:15:26,865 --> 00:15:32,775 Like I said, that really comes first and the stakes here. 209 00:15:33,615 --> 00:15:40,005 Are you in your life not being able to accomplish your mission, not being 210 00:15:40,005 --> 00:15:45,975 able to convert the passion that you have into something that's a legacy. 211 00:15:47,325 --> 00:15:54,105 If you are continu, In a high stress environment that leads to burnout, 212 00:15:54,825 --> 00:15:57,255 and the burnout goes unaddressed. 213 00:15:58,485 --> 00:16:04,005 The consequences are real for you personally, for you physically, for you 214 00:16:04,005 --> 00:16:11,505 spiritually, but the consequences for not being able to achieve your legacy. 215 00:16:12,045 --> 00:16:18,465 Your life's work, your purpose in life are very real as. 216 00:16:20,130 --> 00:16:25,829 Invest a little time now so that you can continue to sustainably do 217 00:16:25,860 --> 00:16:28,620 your work for the rest of your life. 218 00:16:28,620 --> 00:16:30,750 Your career is long. 219 00:16:32,040 --> 00:16:38,040 You have many years even after retirement to keep working towards your mission. 220 00:16:39,209 --> 00:16:43,170 But if you burn out along the way, then you won't have anything 221 00:16:43,170 --> 00:16:46,230 left to give and giving back. 222 00:16:47,895 --> 00:16:52,245 Really what matters in the end, that's all I have for today. 223 00:16:53,505 --> 00:17:01,215 This is the conclusion of my Core four of Impact leadership, but each of these 224 00:17:01,215 --> 00:17:07,755 topics will drive future episodes, so we'll drill down into these topics 225 00:17:08,115 --> 00:17:11,125 and some really, you know, tactical. 226 00:17:12,510 --> 00:17:17,040 Techniques for addressing each of these and, and bringing them into 227 00:17:17,040 --> 00:17:21,510 more focus in our work, in our lives as we go throughout the podcast. 228 00:17:21,510 --> 00:17:26,730 And as always, uh, I'll have guests on who will share their expertise as well. 229 00:17:27,359 --> 00:17:29,010 So thanks for, for listening. 230 00:17:29,010 --> 00:17:29,699 I appreciate it. 231 00:17:30,209 --> 00:17:32,189 And until next time, be well. 232 00:17:36,750 --> 00:17:38,939 Thanks so much for listening to Passion and Profits. 233 00:17:38,945 --> 00:17:39,240 Without. 234 00:17:40,095 --> 00:17:43,095 I hope that you found some impactful takeaways, and if you 235 00:17:43,095 --> 00:17:44,805 did, I'd love to hear from you. 236 00:17:45,165 --> 00:17:49,455 Share a screenshot on your IG story, tag me or send me a quick message. 237 00:17:49,754 --> 00:17:53,205 This show is for you, so any feedback is welcomed. 238 00:17:53,355 --> 00:17:55,935 Hey, and make sure you're also subscribed to the show so you 239 00:17:55,935 --> 00:17:57,525 don't miss any of our new episodes. 240 00:17:57,885 --> 00:18:00,735 And if you could take a few minutes to leave me a five star review, 241 00:18:01,155 --> 00:18:02,235 that'd be greatly appreciated. 242 00:18:02,925 --> 00:18:05,085 Thanks for listening and be well.