Glenn Harper [00:00:00]:

Well, hello, everyone. Welcome to another edition of the Empowering Entrepreneurs podcast. I'm Glenn Harper.

Julie Smith [00:00:05]:

Julie Smith.

Glenn Harper [00:00:05]:

What's going on, Julie?

Julie Smith [00:00:06]:

You know technology, we either love it or we hate it. Right?

Glenn Harper [00:00:09]:

I'm telling you, it looks like getting new spectacles there.

Julie Smith [00:00:11]:

Oh, wow. You're very observant. That just means I can see, you know, when you don't have makeup come in and do your makeup.

Glenn Harper [00:00:16]:

This is probably good and bad. I am as a as a dude, I'm very observant. Nothing gets by me. Right. Right.

Julie Smith [00:00:22]:

Right.

Glenn Harper [00:00:23]:

That's great. Well, we've got a wonderful guest today. I'd like to introduce you to Dr. Indigo Vasquez. She's a board certified doctor of natural medicine, BD, DSM, MH, CPT, hormone health sports performance, hair tissue mineral analysis practitioner, and a formulator. We'll get definitions later. In her spare time, she is the best selling author with her most recent book, Optimize Your Gut, A Comprehensive Guide to Gut Healing, Health and Healing. She has made it her mission to diagnose the gut, diagnose the root problem of her client's health to solve for the cause instead of just treating the symptoms. Her approach to the body and health comes from a belief that is a waste of time to treat symptoms as all that does is keep someone in the healthcare system becoming dependent on prescription drugs with no real chance of getting better.

Glenn Harper [00:01:08]:

Why not take the time to properly diagnose the core issue and help the body reset and do what it's done for 1000 of years BP before pharma? Doctor. Indi measures her success in having patients heal and not need her anymore. How crazy is that? Her passion is to educate and empower clients so they may unlock their health potential so they can become the healthiest version of themselves. Her understanding of the body and how it operates creates the desire for her clients to open their minds and go on the journey with her to heal their body. We're excited to unravel the mysteries, not only of the body, but how doctor Indi's journey has gotten her to where she is today. Thank you, doctor Indi, for being on the show.

Dr. Indigo Vasquez [00:01:40]:

Thanks for having

Julie Smith [00:01:42]:

me. Well, we're so excited. So, Glenn, you know, you got a you you had that great biography, but I know before you were really struggling because you said she doesn't have an online presence.

Glenn Harper [00:01:51]:

She's a vacuum. I don't even know if it's a if she's real or if it's an AI personator of her because we can't find anything on her. I think she lives in Denver, Colorado, but I don't know where she's from. So do you wanna tell us where that is?

Dr. Indigo Vasquez [00:02:04]:

Yes. I am in Denver, Colorado. I'm originally from San Antonio, Texas, but I have been here in Denver for 7 years now.

Glenn Harper [00:02:14]:

What made you what was it like living in San Antonio? Just hang out the elevator?

Dr. Indigo Vasquez [00:02:19]:

Yes. San Antonio was hot and humid and pretty unhealthy. It was a huge change here, when I moved to Denver. It's just very beautiful, and Denver is very health conscious.

Glenn Harper [00:02:35]:

I thought that was might be the case because, either you have a a passion for a high altitude or you're thinking being active outside is the best medicine. I'm not sure which, but yes.

Dr. Indigo Vasquez [00:02:44]:

Being outside is the best medicine.

Glenn Harper [00:02:46]:

That's what I hear. So growing up in in San Antonio, give us a little bit about your parents, what they do. How how'd that go?

Dr. Indigo Vasquez [00:02:53]:

Yeah. My my parents were active duty military. So my both my mom and my dad were, active duty air force. My dad was, military police. My mom worked on airplanes on the flight line. So I grew up, you know, pretty pretty regimented as you could expect with the military background. Great great parents, great family, great upbringing.

Glenn Harper [00:03:19]:

Was, your dad the inspiration for the Jack Reacher series by chance?

Dr. Indigo Vasquez [00:03:23]:

You know what? He would say I can't I can either say or not say that I've yes or maybe yes, maybe no.

Glenn Harper [00:03:30]:

Excellent. I'm glad you picked up, and Julie's like, what are you talking about? No idea. No. That's great. So, you know, when you, were growing up, did you have real jobs? Or because if your parents were regimented doing that, they probably didn't have a chance to be self employed or entrepreneurs. But you did you have a chance to be an entrepreneur all growing up, or did you work, like, real jobs?

Dr. Indigo Vasquez [00:03:49]:

Yes. So I have well, actually, my dad, even though he was active duty military, he always had that entrepreneurial heart. So we had vending business. He had some other ventures that really inspired me. I've always kind of been in the how can I make my own money, mindset even as a very young person? So I did have, you know, like, the quote unquote real job. I did a certified personal training for 15 years. It's kind of like employment. However, it's also, you know, entrepreneurial in its in its own right as well, until I transitioned into doing what I do now.

Glenn Harper [00:04:30]:

So when you grew up, you got siblings or anything?

Dr. Indigo Vasquez [00:04:33]:

Yes. I have a one younger sister.

Glenn Harper [00:04:35]:

A younger sister. Alright. So here you are in San Antonio, Texas. Your parents in military. You probably weren't traveling much because it sounds like they're based there, which was kind of nice. You didn't have to be in our, you know, a brat and move all over. But as you start doing your entrepreneurial journey doing these things, you had to go off to school at some point. Did you in high school, did you play athletics? Did you, obviously, if you're a trainer, you had to do something athletic.

Dr. Indigo Vasquez [00:04:57]:

Yeah. Yeah. I was into, soccer, gymnastics. I played tennis. Those were my 3 primary, sports.

Glenn Harper [00:05:05]:

Was that all through high school, all three of those?

Dr. Indigo Vasquez [00:05:07]:

Yes.

Glenn Harper [00:05:08]:

Mhmm. How did you manage that?

Dr. Indigo Vasquez [00:05:11]:

Care carefully. I didn't watch a lot of TV.

Glenn Harper [00:05:15]:

Got it. Was nothing on anyway. But yeah.

Dr. Indigo Vasquez [00:05:17]:

No. Yeah. Yeah. Not a lot of downtime, but that's okay.

Glenn Harper [00:05:21]:

Did you find that, doing the team sports versus your individual, you know, was which did you feel like you were thriving more on, a team or a lone survivor there doing your own thing?

Dr. Indigo Vasquez [00:05:34]:

Definitely lone survivor, and that's true to today.

Glenn Harper [00:05:37]:

There you go. So at some point, you're like, alright. Well, I'm I'm a decorated athlete in 3 sports, you know, love a little bit of entrepreneurial stuff, and you decided you're going to go to college?

Dr. Indigo Vasquez [00:05:49]:

Yes. I've had I've had quite a bit of a college career. Yes.

Glenn Harper [00:05:53]:

Yes. We couldn't find any of that, so that's why I'm very curious because I would've went to all these battles, but I'm I'm flying blind here. So where did you decide to go initially?

Dr. Indigo Vasquez [00:06:02]:

So I the Institute of Bioenergetic Medicine is my primary education and what that it's based in Denver, and it is a naturopathic school. So it teaches naturopathic medicine, bioenergetics, which is a huge part of my, practice, which is the study of the electromagnetic fields, primarily in the human body. I do nutrition therapy institute currently. I'm in school for kinda, you know, just advanced nutrition therapy, education. I've been in, San Antonio Colleges. I've I've taken college since I was 18, and I am now 39 years old. I think I I I just love school, so I'm a career

Glenn Harper [00:06:47]:

You're one of those.

Dr. Indigo Vasquez [00:06:49]:

So I'll take my money.

Glenn Harper [00:06:51]:

All day long.

Dr. Indigo Vasquez [00:06:52]:

You know?

Glenn Harper [00:06:52]:

Well, why not give it to those fine folks? So so the question is why what made you make the decision to go against the system from a health care standpoint and not the, quote, traditional medical doctor to go the natural way? When did you make that decision that's like, I don't like what's going on over there. I wanna be over here.

Dr. Indigo Vasquez [00:07:15]:

So when I was pretty young, actually, when I was maybe 16, 17, 18, I knew I wanted to be in the healing arts, but I personally have had a lot of, struggle with my health, which, was not resolved in western medicine. And that really encouraged me to dive deeper into nutrition therapies, self care,

Glenn Harper [00:07:39]:

the nervous system to

Dr. Indigo Vasquez [00:07:39]:

actually heal the body. So when I was to answer the question very, very young, I knew that it was not for me. And I knew that people needed help addressing the root cause. So it became an obsession to find and learn very deep clinical reasons why people are actually sick versus treating the the symptom that's, you know, primarily in allopathic medicine currently.

Glenn Harper [00:08:07]:

You know, it's funny. About 20 years ago, 25 years ago, that's when all of a sudden you couldn't find a prescription drug if you needed it, and now that's all you see on TV. So something has happened between then and now. You obviously are pioneer and discovered that earlier that something's strange at the Circle k. So It

Dr. Indigo Vasquez [00:08:27]:

doesn't feel good.

Glenn Harper [00:08:28]:

No. So but, again, that's gotta be hard to tell, you know, 25 20 years ago that, hey, I'm not gonna go the traditional route. People are like, what are you talking about? This is what we've done for the beginning of time. How was that? It was probably a lonely, trek, I would imagine.

Dr. Indigo Vasquez [00:08:44]:

Yeah. Initially, it really bugged me. It really because I really had to convince people, like, this is not alternative medicine. This is ancient medicine practice. This is you know, and as I as I built my reputation, you know, now it's like, doesn't it make sense that we go this, you know, ancient medicine practice route? It it it makes more sense to me. I think we confuse, western medicine and eastern medicine together. It would be beautiful if we confuse them together. But at the beginning of my career, it really did kinda hurt my feelings a little bit that I had to convince people like, no.

Dr. Indigo Vasquez [00:09:21]:

I'm I am good. This is real. You know?

Glenn Harper [00:09:25]:

Which which is crazy, because, again, if you say MD, well, you're just an authority. You know everything. Right?

Dr. Indigo Vasquez [00:09:31]:

Yes.

Glenn Harper [00:09:32]:

If you don't have that, well, what do you know? And they're always gonna look at you all skepticism. And that's where part of this our whole purpose of this podcast is the naysayers are everywhere. Like, everybody's against you, it seems like, when you go out on your own and do your thing because it's opposite what everybody else does. And, just how do you keep how did you keep going and keep having the hope and the drive? Was it to prove somebody wrong, or is it you just had a mission that you wanted to do this and you knew you can make a difference?

Dr. Indigo Vasquez [00:10:01]:

I had a mission that I knew I could do this. The calling was so strong that I knew that I can't I can't fail. And I think that's important in entrepreneurship when you have a business, knowing that there's risks, but believing so much that there I can't fail, I can only learn. Right? And so so I know that progressing deeper and deeper and deeper into my career. I can't fail. I can only learn

Julie Smith [00:10:29]:

We call that pivoting. I think you know, like there's no failing. You're just pivoting. Right? So like, oh that didn't work Let's pivot and let's go down this lane.

Glenn Harper [00:10:37]:

Well, but here's the funny thing with doctor Kennedy. Like, there is a fork in the road. She shows traditional or she shows the other thing. And it was it was like, we're just going here. Like, no matter what, come hell or high water.

Julie Smith [00:10:50]:

And were were your parents very supportive of that, or were they a little leery at first as well?

Dr. Indigo Vasquez [00:10:55]:

Yes. They were a little leery. Yes. And my my dad in particular I love you, dad. You'll probably listen to this later. But, you know, it was kinda like, I don't know. This my my doctor says I should do this. And I'm like, but I don't think I agree with that.

Dr. Indigo Vasquez [00:11:10]:

Here's an alternative. I'm like, well, I don't know. You know? Yes.

Glenn Harper [00:11:14]:

It's truly part of the culture. Right? We're supposed to trust our doctors, but it seems like more and more, like I said in in your in my intro with you, it just seems like it's all about the symptom and getting the patient in and get them out to mask it just enough so they can work, but they're not gonna feel good, so they're still in the system. And that's not a knock on the system. It's just what they're taught and what it is. I don't know who's driving that bus, but there is another way. Just like in everything, there's always another way. So when you did this, did you work for another company when you first started, or you just went solo on your own and hung up your shingle?

Dr. Indigo Vasquez [00:11:47]:

Yeah. I went from personal training to taking the leap and saying, I don't wanna do this anymore. I done I have 15 years in the industry, and I was burnt out from training because I I knew I'm like, it's beyond just, you know, lifting weights. It is I need these people need more help than you need to exercise and eat whole foods. We need more medicine than that. So I I it came from a place of wanting to help people in a more aggressive way than just teaching them how to lift properly. And so I was working at Lifetime Fitness at the time, my 15th year in the industry. I thought, you know what? I am gonna rent a room, and I'm gonna put a desk in it, and I'm gonna invite people to come talk to me about their health.

Dr. Indigo Vasquez [00:12:36]:

And it worked.

Glenn Harper [00:12:37]:

Yes. And that, like

Julie Smith [00:12:39]:

But to go back, you know, you're in your 15th year of personal training, and you're just seeing people, you know, come in and they're they're committed to lifting the weights and showing up to do that with you. Was there just, like, an moment or was it just over time where, like, I don't know if you had a, like, specific client. I don't know. Where you're like, this isn't working, but it's not working because of what I'm telling them to do. This isn't working because there's something more to it. Like Mhmm.

Dr. Indigo Vasquez [00:13:06]:

Did you

Julie Smith [00:13:07]:

have like an moment with a client or was it just over time where you're like, you know, just running into a brick wall? Like, there's only so much I can do in this realm. Why don't I go to this realm?

Dr. Indigo Vasquez [00:13:17]:

Yeah. So the it was over time. So when I was new in my career, I really didn't know. I mean, nobody really knows what they're doing, right, in personal training. And I and I started to get the reputation even in personal training that says, go talk to Indi because there might be something more going on. So I just talk to people. I say, maybe you're b vitamin deficient or maybe your gut health. It sounds like maybe your digestion is out of whack.

Dr. Indigo Vasquez [00:13:41]:

Go see a nutritionist, you know. So I started developing and becoming curious over time because people would come to me naturally and say, hey. What do you think else is going on? I didn't know because I didn't have the training at the time. So that encouraged me to learn more about deeper, root cause medicine. And so I went to school after school after school, you know to help people more aggressively And and that's in the in the 15 years of personal training where I couldn't you know doctor people at that time because my scope of practice was

Julie Smith [00:14:13]:

Okay. So you open this room. You've got a desk and you've got people coming in What happens?

Dr. Indigo Vasquez [00:14:21]:

Covet came. Oh.

Glenn Harper [00:14:22]:

Perfect timing. That's fantastic.

Dr. Indigo Vasquez [00:14:26]:

I lost my I mean, I thought, oh my gosh. This is it. I don't know. I just I took a big risk, and now they shut they shut the world down. And I actually became incredibly busy

Glenn Harper [00:14:39]:

Mhmm.

Dr. Indigo Vasquez [00:14:39]:

Believe it or not.

Glenn Harper [00:14:40]:

The people that know want to seek it out.

Dr. Indigo Vasquez [00:14:43]:

They you know, people were like, I don't know. I don't I don't feel very good about what's happening here. And so, you know, I built my business off of referral only. And and that speaks volumes of how you practice. Right? Because, I didn't really advertise. So, you know, I've had these patients come in. They had a good experience during COVID, and it grew and grew and grew. And now I've got a 3 month wait list.

Dr. Indigo Vasquez [00:15:10]:

Wow. You know? And I say that humbly because I want to help people feel better, but that just speaks volumes to the ability of, you know, believing in yourself. COVID came. I could have failed, pivoted. However, look at look at what's happened. I'm doing fine.

Julie Smith [00:15:29]:

Well, and I think it speaks volumes. You know, I no secret, I see doctor Endy. And, you know, I think after a couple years of not feeling good and seeking and trying to figure that out and navigate that, it was like through a referral of a referral of a referral of however I landed with you. And I will I you know, I hope I'm your biggest referral source, but Yes. I speak volumes to your education. So you don't get to speak to you and you just tell me what's wrong and what to do. You explain the why. And for someone like myself, I it has to make sense for me to buy into and commit to it.

Julie Smith [00:16:06]:

And I think you do a great job of communicating and speaking a language that I hate to say like, the MDs of the world, like, I don't understand what you're saying. Why are what's the why? What's the how? You do a phenomenal job of being able to communicate on someone like my level who is like, wait, what does that mean? And why are we doing that? And so I give you so much kudos in regards to that because you do a great job of being able to educate and communicate someone like myself to be able to believe in it enough to buy into it, to commit to it.

Glenn Harper [00:16:38]:

Julie, you can't eat queso and energy drinks. It's not a good diet.

Julie Smith [00:16:41]:

It's what she

Glenn Harper [00:16:42]:

told me. Anyone here. I know. I know. But you come along, and you make her drink from the fountain, which is fantastic. And, again, that's, understanding as an entrepreneur the different things you get to do. You can't do everything, but you can do something very well. And then once that locks in, you can add to that.

Glenn Harper [00:17:02]:

And it seems like your ability to focus in on the one thing, probably, or the one area that would make the biggest impact that the client's gonna feel something, that's your gateway to get them to do the other things to get them where they need to be, if I'm if I'm guessing just by witnessing.

Dr. Indigo Vasquez [00:17:19]:

100%. Yeah. If you can get somebody and that's why we do the wise because it puts power behind the pro protocol. Right? I know why I'm doing this. It makes sense why I'm doing this. If you can and we always start with the gut. You help somebody's belly feel better, and they're like, okay. What else? Because I have the energy to do the next thing.

Dr. Indigo Vasquez [00:17:38]:

So my gut feels better now We can work on the energy and you just kind of build and help the the client grow from there

Glenn Harper [00:17:46]:

So and this is you're at a pivotal point in your entrepreneurial journey, obviously, because here you are doing wonderful things for clients, and now you got a wait list. Well, now what do you do? Do you just you wanna help the people? You wanna get the word out there? Are you going to have do you have to make the decision? Do you become an owner operator, or do you come an owner investor? Are you gonna hire people to do what you do? Are you gonna try to expand? Are you gonna stay where you're at and just service 1 at a time? What is your plan if you're

Julie Smith [00:18:17]:

planning on forget. I think she also has kids.

Glenn Harper [00:18:20]:

That's a side issue. That's just something that's gonna happen. But but the the you're at that point this fast where what are you gonna do? I mean, a 3 month wait list is fantastic, but there's a lot of people that need your help. Mhmm. Do you have the bandwidth to keep servicing them like that? Or do you think you're gonna have to expand and hire other people?

Dr. Indigo Vasquez [00:18:38]:

Yeah. So I am working on building out programs so that clients can put themselves through a healing program, wrote a book, you know, gut healing book, a thyroid, optimization book's coming out. I have I have thought about building my team. I have kind of I work with bodybuilding teams. I have some, you know, team essentially, but not it's hard to find practitioners that have similar education in this in what I do. So fitness, gut healing, mineral balancing. So I do try to refer out to colleagues. Patients decide to to wait.

Dr. Indigo Vasquez [00:19:26]:

They do decide to to be on that wait list. So, hopefully I can get into a mentorship where I can build, you know a team But I don't have right now. I don't have the bandwidth well,

Glenn Harper [00:19:39]:

you know, it's what's funny is you know, you can have you could find 10 people that have the same exact accolades as you have, but they're not you. They don't have your bedside manner. They don't have the ability that you can connect with your patients probably because there is a thing about that bedside matter, right? And maybe a Zoom, side mattered or something. But, you know, you just have that ability, and that's hard to teach somebody. And so Mhmm. But you seem like a person you're not going to take on a client unless you can do the whole thing because now you're be in. Now they're not gonna be successful if you don't do the whole thing. So now you're back to where you're gonna have a you get to pick your lifestyle, how many hours you wanna work, how many patients, and it just is what it is, and that is a great business model.

Glenn Harper [00:20:24]:

I'm just glad you're in it, Julie.

Julie Smith [00:20:26]:

Yeah. I snuck in.

Dr. Indigo Vasquez [00:20:28]:

Yeah. When you're in it, you're in it for life. And I I put so much love and energy towards every single patient because I know that you can feel better. And I and I, we really talk a lot and I like to come at it from a partnership, you know, text me. How are you doing? Let's talk in between appointments. That's how people heal is is the connection. Right?

Glenn Harper [00:20:51]:

So and, you know, is it just for a nugget for audiences? Because I am sure they're very curious about a couple things, and so I'm gonna throw a couple things out there, and then tell me, like so let's say I'm a, dark closet dweller. I don't like being outside. I like working from the computer in the dark. I'm probably not very healthy because what is it? Fresh air, sunlight, movement, all the above? I mean, that's, like, the that's the easiest thing for somebody to do. Right? Mhmm.

Dr. Indigo Vasquez [00:21:20]:

Yeah. It it technically is the easy. Right? But getting somebody to love themselves enough to do it is the is a challenging thing. Right? So getting somebody to drink enough water with electrolytes in it can be several months of practice.

Glenn Harper [00:21:37]:

I I would imagine. And is it because people still haven't believed that it's really gonna work or they just don't know or they're like, they don't understand the science behind it?

Julie Smith [00:21:47]:

Wait. Didn't you hear her? She's I know. She'd already diagnosed it.

Dr. Indigo Vasquez [00:21:50]:

Yeah. And it's probably it's all of the above. Right? It's the self a lot of it's self worth where it's you know, I don't care enough about myself to put the energy into, you know, learning about how to heal the gut because I'm really comfortable in being in this uncomfortable space.

Glenn Harper [00:22:08]:

So hold on a second. So now we're you got to be like a shrink as well and try to get in their head Yeah, it's not about the science about getting them to believe in themselves more than anything

Dr. Indigo Vasquez [00:22:20]:

And that's what a healer is. A healer does not heal you. A healer shows you how to heal yourself.

Glenn Harper [00:22:27]:

Mind blown. Alright. So now The minute

Julie Smith [00:22:30]:

drop moment of the So You

Dr. Indigo Vasquez [00:22:31]:

gotta do it. It's not my body. It's your body.

Glenn Harper [00:22:33]:

And and, again, it but it's like people want to get in shape. They just don't know what that is, not whether they're lazy, but and never put it to the self worth part. That's that's a new neat little thing. Wow. Alright. So now we get them we get them, we get somebody squared away. Do they have to feel so bad that it's feels worse to keep going than the pain of doing something new? Is is that the point that they're probably at when they come and see you?

Dr. Indigo Vasquez [00:23:00]:

Oftentimes. Mhmm. Yeah. And, essentially, you know, I say it like this. People have to be sick of their own s h I t by the time that they come to see me. Now I work with athletes too, and they I do optimization. They're already ready to go, but many people are just so lost and so tired and so distracted and they're putting their kids first and they're putting the career first and they're just like, I don't have the energy for it until they have a significant health event that alters their lifestyle that they have to do something. Their hair is falling out, something like that.

Glenn Harper [00:23:35]:

You know

Dr. Indigo Vasquez [00:23:35]:

what I mean? Where they're like, oh my gosh. Now they're panicked. Mhmm.

Glenn Harper [00:23:39]:

So so then the next thing is, like, how does one, like I'm not gonna lie here. I I love the, quote, unhealthy food. It tastes so good. But it's bad for you. It does.

Dr. Indigo Vasquez [00:23:49]:

It does.

Glenn Harper [00:23:50]:

How does one get reprogrammed? How long does it take to get off the sauce before you're like, yuck, that stuff's no good anymore? What's the average length of time that somebody has to say, I gotta abstain from I'm not gonna mention any names, but you know what I'm saying. Those things until like, how long does that usually take somebody to get that out of their system where that addiction isn't there anymore?

Dr. Indigo Vasquez [00:24:10]:

6 weeks, if they're dedicated. Yes. And then what happens is and I had a patient come in yesterday and say, you ruined me. I don't even like the taste of sugar anymore.

Julie Smith [00:24:20]:

Well, that's how that's how I feel. So, like, I had a main food group of chips and dip before I I saw you, like and I think everybody around me would know that that's, like, my thing. If you wanted me to eat, like, you brought me any

Glenn Harper [00:24:32]:

That's your food pyramid.

Julie Smith [00:24:33]:

Yes. Literally, any chips and dip, like, hum like, I'm talking anything. That is what I would eat. And I bought into what she said and I did it for I think I did it more than 6 weeks. I think I lasted almost 4 or 5 months on this, like, diet that you recommended. And to this day, if someone asks me, like, to go out to eat or to go do something, I used to say Mexican. Like, 100%, I don't care if it's terrible. Like, I know they have chips and dip.

Julie Smith [00:25:00]:

Now, I don't know that I think I've maybe been to Mackenzie Ken once in the last 6 or 7 months. And even then, the chips and dip didn't even taste like what they used to taste like. Yes.

Dr. Indigo Vasquez [00:25:11]:

Yeah. So you think it tastes good, right, when you're in it? Yeah.

Glenn Harper [00:25:14]:

And then you and then

Dr. Indigo Vasquez [00:25:15]:

you heal and the apple tastes like, woah, the apple is delicious.

Julie Smith [00:25:19]:

I love apples now. I literally eat them daily.

Glenn Harper [00:25:22]:

So is it is it a is it a the chemical that's in it that makes you addicted to it, it takes that long to get it out of your system? Or is it you're retraining your brain that you don't need that anymore? What is it a combination of both or which one?

Dr. Indigo Vasquez [00:25:37]:

Both. So it's mostly healing healing the intestinal tract where it's called your bidirectional communication system where your intestinal tract heals to the degree of being able to say to your brain loud enough. This is not I don't like this. I don't like this. This is actually not that tasty, and it actually makes me feel really bad, and you hear it louder. So then your brain says, I don't want this at all, which naturally says, I don't this doesn't even taste good to me anymore. That's how we we manifest it. I don't even like the way this tastes, but it's actually your gut saying we don't we're healed enough.

Dr. Indigo Vasquez [00:26:13]:

We don't wanna put that nasty stuff in our in our intestinal crack anymore.

Julie Smith [00:26:17]:

And until you you go through that like, she sounds crazy. Right? Is she

Glenn Harper [00:26:21]:

She does sound crazy.

Julie Smith [00:26:22]:

She's, like, a genius. Until you go through it, you're like, there's no way I'm never gonna like queso.

Glenn Harper [00:26:26]:

I feel like I gotta put

Julie Smith [00:26:27]:

I feel like everybody would've bet against me

Glenn Harper [00:26:28]:

on that. I gotta put a bigger microphone on my gut so it can talk to me more. I think that's what's gonna do it, and it's really screams because, again, I can't it's really hard to not eat the stuff that is readily available, quick, easy, allegedly fills you up, but it's just horrible for you.

Dr. Indigo Vasquez [00:26:46]:

Yeah. I mean, they put a lot of money into, designing the product to keep you feeling hungry. Right? To suppress that not feeling good, symptom. Right? And I mean what I mean by that is eating a bunch of Doritos. They have designed it in a way that your brain does not signal to your body that this does not make me feel good. I actually really like this. That's all. It's just chemical, technology.

Glenn Harper [00:27:14]:

Shoot. I thought it had a tapeworm. Alright. Well, that

Julie Smith [00:27:16]:

So I have a clue.

Dr. Indigo Vasquez [00:27:17]:

That's possible.

Glenn Harper [00:27:18]:

Right.

Dr. Indigo Vasquez [00:27:19]:

I'll need to do an assessment.

Glenn Harper [00:27:20]:

That's right.

Julie Smith [00:27:21]:

So, I feel like this sort of medicine is becoming more popular though, especially as people become a little more educated or are kind of in touch with their own body. I just have a curiosity. Have you listened to any of the Mean Siblings podcasts that are out there and read that book?

Dr. Indigo Vasquez [00:27:40]:

Not yet. I would love to know more.

Julie Smith [00:27:42]:

Oh, I will send it to you because you guys are are a lot alike and it, you know, it I listened to it and I'm like, gosh. Why were we so like, we didn't see this. How do we not see this as, you know, Americans?

Glenn Harper [00:27:54]:

So Well, you know, we're close to being at the end of our allotted time, but I've got, like, 12,000,000,000 more questions.

Julie Smith [00:28:00]:

I know. We might have to have part 2 with doctor Envy back again.

Glenn Harper [00:28:03]:

If that's okay.

Julie Smith [00:28:04]:

Too. There's

Glenn Harper [00:28:05]:

all kinds of rabbit holes. I I just wanna know what all these initials after your name mean. I don't even know what I tried to Google the what the nomenclature is. It didn't even tell me. So I don't even know what those are. So what is a BD?

Dr. Indigo Vasquez [00:28:20]:

So I'm a bioenergetic doctor. Wow. So a doctor of bioenergetic medicine.

Glenn Harper [00:28:25]:

Wow. And that's like a, and what is a DSM?

Dr. Indigo Vasquez [00:28:29]:

Doctor of sacred medicine. So that's indigenous medicine studies.

Glenn Harper [00:28:33]:

How cool is

Dr. Indigo Vasquez [00:28:34]:

that? Native American medicine studies. Yes.

Glenn Harper [00:28:35]:

An MH?

Dr. Indigo Vasquez [00:28:37]:

Master herbalist. I have to think about myself.

Glenn Harper [00:28:40]:

Master herbalism. CPT?

Dr. Indigo Vasquez [00:28:43]:

Certified personal trainer.

Glenn Harper [00:28:44]:

Oh, that's the official. I should have known that. And a hair tissue mineral analysis practitioner, that's like when you take a sample and you like, you don't just read what it says, you know how to interpret that.

Dr. Indigo Vasquez [00:28:56]:

Yes. It's very complex, very cool medicine. It's, it's, tissue analysis, deeper than blood labs.

Glenn Harper [00:29:03]:

Wow.

Julie Smith [00:29:03]:

Well and didn't you create something? Aren't you, like, a creator of something in that realm too?

Dr. Indigo Vasquez [00:29:08]:

Oh, yes. I do, I do I have supplement company, so I formulate supplements.

Glenn Harper [00:29:13]:

Like a compound pharmacist? Like a compound pharmacist type of thing?

Dr. Indigo Vasquez [00:29:18]:

No. So I I formulate products. So I have, like, products for sale, vitamin d, you know, adrenal, that sort of thing.

Glenn Harper [00:29:26]:

Wow. So how cool is that? So I honestly I really think we're gonna have to do a part 2 to this.

Dr. Indigo Vasquez [00:29:32]:

I think

Julie Smith [00:29:32]:

we're gonna have to do a part 2 with, like, questions. Just because I think this this affects so many entrepreneurs, especially with their stress, just their lifestyle, like you said. It's like you put forth all your effort into your career, your kids, your family, and there's no time for it.

Glenn Harper [00:29:46]:

To that that point, I think that's probably been the most helpful thing for our internal listeners is that, again, you never entrepreneurs never put their health first. They might go work out incredibly hard and do that, but they never put the what they put in their body in a way that's gonna get the best result. We could do a whole podcast just on that.

Dr. Indigo Vasquez [00:30:06]:

Yeah. I think and I'm I'm happy to. I have a lot of opinions, and I have a lot to say.

Julie Smith [00:30:09]:

We love it. We love opinions.

Glenn Harper [00:30:11]:

This is this is good. So we will, let you go.

Julie Smith [00:30:14]:

Well, first, I first, I we have a couple more minutes, and I just wanna do one of my questions.

Glenn Harper [00:30:19]:

You don't wanna say it?

Julie Smith [00:30:20]:

Alright. What is your superpower?

Dr. Indigo Vasquez [00:30:23]:

Oh, man. So my superpower and I was just thinking about this this morning. I can focus on 10 things at once and still be accurate. Right? So I could be cooking my husband breakfast, answering patient emails, preparing for pay the patient workday. Right? Texting, answering questions, and with generally pretty small amount of error. Not perfect, but I that I would say is my superpower.

Julie Smith [00:30:53]:

But it's probably because you're healthy. Your gut and your brain are clear.

Dr. Indigo Vasquez [00:30:57]:

Yes. Yes. And I 10 years ago, I couldn't do that. No way.

Glenn Harper [00:31:02]:

So you are actually practicing what you preach because you did all this analysis on yourself. So you know what that looks like, and you're sticking to that plan as well.

Dr. Indigo Vasquez [00:31:11]:

Yes. I absolutely have to in order to execute the day at that caliber that I have to because I have so many patients. I have 300 active patients that are they trust me, and I have to be very careful about how I deal with their health. That's their life. So I better take care of myself. I better sleep. I better exercise. Drink water.

Glenn Harper [00:31:31]:

All the things do you do you charge your husband and kids full price for your advice to them?

Dr. Indigo Vasquez [00:31:36]:

That's a good idea.

Glenn Harper [00:31:37]:

That's a good idea.

Dr. Indigo Vasquez [00:31:39]:

I should send him a bill.

Glenn Harper [00:31:40]:

That is a great vacation we can plan with just that amount of money. And they probably have to pay double because they have you 20 fourseven, so that's a whole different thing.

Dr. Indigo Vasquez [00:31:49]:

Yes. Oh, yes, they do. And my dogs too, I think.

Glenn Harper [00:31:52]:

They do. See? They need they need to eat the good stuff. Well, doctor Indy, it's been a a pleasure. I know we have a hard stop, and we look forward to the continuing this on if

Julie Smith [00:32:00]:

that's right. We will get another one scheduled for part 2 and really dig maybe a little bit deeper into, you know, those opinions and kind of how all this works, just as an educator entrepreneurs.

Glenn Harper [00:32:10]:

I got all kinds of shovels. I'm ready to dig.

Julie Smith [00:32:12]:

Alright, doctor

Dr. Indigo Vasquez [00:32:13]:

Diddy. That. Let me know.

Glenn Harper [00:32:14]:

Thank you for being on the show, looking for the next one.

Julie Smith [00:32:17]:

Can you give a plug? Can you give us a plug? Even though you have so many so many clients, can you give a plug of, like, your book where people can find you kind of, you know, Glenn can find you, so where could

Glenn Harper [00:32:27]:

Yes. And I'm good.

Dr. Indigo Vasquez [00:32:28]:

Yeah. So the best the best is Instagram because I do a lot of, education stuff on Instagram. So that's, drindigovasquez. So @ drindigovasquez. And then my book is called, Optimize Your Gut, and that's found on Amazon.

Glenn Harper [00:32:46]:

Awesome. Well, can't wait till the next one. Go have a great rest of your day. This is, Glenn Harper.

Julie Smith [00:32:51]:

Julie Smith.