So have you ever wondered during your sales calls why people again and again tells you that they don't have any money?
Speaker AAnd are you curious about why that is?
Speaker ASo today's episode is going to be all about how to attract clients that can actually afford your services or more.
Speaker BClearly, how to avoid those tire kickers that get on all your sales calls and just time after time after time, every time, tell you, oh, I love your service, sounds so good, but I can't afford it.
Speaker AYeah.
Speaker ABecause it does take us back and it drains our self confidence and it drains us emotionally and we feel like, oh, how am I ever going to get this to work?
Speaker AWell, the good news is that you can actually do tons of, tons of stuff about it.
Speaker ABefore we start, I just want to announce that we are expanding our family today with a lot of new chickens that are currently hatching in our incubator.
Speaker ASo that is very exciting.
Speaker AWe are seeing small, small peaks getting out of their shells.
Speaker BWe can hear them, small birds inside the box.
Speaker AI'm not going to try to imitate them, but yeah, we can.
Speaker ABut it's really, really cute.
Speaker AAnd it's also a part of the lifestyle that we've designed to be this way.
Speaker BYeah.
Speaker BBeing on the countryside.
Speaker AYeah.
Speaker ALiving on a ranch, having animals, producing our own food and stuff and we don't do that to any like massive extent.
Speaker ABut we, we would like to have a close connection to nature and, and be alone, living at the end of a long road, but only 20 minutes from a big city.
Speaker ASo.
Speaker ASo we can always go in and find the pulse if we need it and find other people.
Speaker ABut less and less we feel like more people isn't the answer.
Speaker ABut yeah, that's another story.
Speaker ASo really cool.
Speaker AAnd the most important thing is that this lifestyle is also designed by our coaching business.
Speaker AIf we didn't have our coaching business, we could never afford to do what we do today, to live where we live today and to enjoy our lives the way we do.
Speaker ASo I think on that topic, it's really, really important.
Speaker AAnd how do we build our business?
Speaker AWe get more paying clients in.
Speaker ASo if our clients are always.
Speaker AOr if our prospects on sales calls are always telling us that I can't afford it, they don't have any money.
Speaker AWell, there are tons that we can do.
Speaker ASo let's dive into that and really speak about it.
Speaker BYeah.
Speaker BBecause I think this is a thing that comes up every single week inside our detail program and dream to Lifestyle is the program we run for coaches who are new, just started up and Just started marketing themselves or just starting to get traction and build up their socials.
Speaker BAnd this is a typical thing that we hear at that stage and we literally hear it time after time.
Speaker BI need to attract people who can pay.
Speaker BLike that is the mindset.
Speaker BI need to attract people who can pay.
Speaker BAnd see, the thing is that I believe a lot of coaches, especially in the beginning, until you're doing 10k month and maybe a little bit more than that, they are knowingly position themselves to serve those who need them rather than those who can pay for their service.
Speaker AYeah.
Speaker AYeah.
Speaker AThat's very interesting because I think.
Speaker AI think you're 100% right.
Speaker AAnother observation that I would like to make on the same topic is that it all ties down to your perspective and your belief system.
Speaker BYeah.
Speaker ABecause the symptom is that someone tells you in the sales call that they can't pay for it.
Speaker ANow there are.
Speaker AIf someone comes and they can't pay for it, well, there are stuff that we can do in order to help them realize that they could pay for it.
Speaker AI usually say, and this isn't the solution, but I usually tell all of my clients, if it was about life and death for my daughter, and I'm using myself as an example, but if that would be the case, I would turn this world upside down to find every penny or every euro that I needed in order to help her.
Speaker AWhich means that even if the money isn't in my pocket, the money is accessible.
Speaker AIf it is important enough, and it's really important for a coach to really start getting into that, if we can make it important enough for them, if we put it into a context that is desirable enough, they will figure it out.
Speaker ABecause guess what?
Speaker AIn the world we live in today, we do get unexpected payments that are due soon.
Speaker AAnd we figure it out.
Speaker ASo first of all, just trust that people can manage and figure those things out for themselves.
Speaker ABut looking deeper into mindset and belief system, because we come from that scarcity place, it's inflicting our marketing and observation.
Speaker AI make.
Speaker AWe are speaking to people who aren't necessarily seeing their own capabilities.
Speaker BYeah.
Speaker AAnd it inflicts the way we set up sales calls, the way we build relationships, and we're kind of taking care of them as if they were babies.
Speaker ASo let's pause the kind of solution stuff for now and then bring it everything back to.
Speaker ATo the solution at the end.
Speaker ABut just bear in mind that it might be you who has an objectively poor way of viewing your future potential clients.
Speaker AAnd let's dive into what kind of problems this creates?
Speaker BWell, I think the problem is if you are needy or desperate to get sales, you get more and more open to like, you're available.
Speaker BAnd the more you're available, the less conditions you put to who you are for, because you would literally take in who you couldn't potentially be for.
Speaker AThe more available you make yourself, the less desirable you make yourself.
Speaker AAnd what I'm seeing in front of myself is that if you're super desperate after a romantic partner relationship with a boy or girl or woman or a man or whatever, then if you're desperate, you're not going to have people finding you interesting enough to look deeper underneath and you're not going to be desirable.
Speaker BNo.
Speaker BSo if you are getting to a place where you believe that the best way for me to get clients, because you need clients, and this way for me to get clients is you start lowering your prices.
Speaker BYou will always be in a place where you will taking down the perceived value you're opening up for everyone who believe that, oh, maybe you just can help me and maybe I don't need to pay for it because you take down your own value.
Speaker BAnd by doing that, you also attract people that doesn't value what you do.
Speaker BI think also there's something in the idea of the identity.
Speaker BWe spoke about that in another podcast episode.
Speaker BThe identity of being a coach.
Speaker BI want to help everyone.
Speaker BAnd if you look into your content and your messaging is talking to people who are weak, who are struggling in a survival mode, fragile, pamper people in your content, you naturally attract people who are in a survival mode who needs pampering or who wants to have that kind of experience.
Speaker BSo even though it might not be your fault, well, it is on you to change it.
Speaker BIt is about you.
Speaker BIf that's what you keep attracting and constantly attracting the wrong people, well, it will only lead to, of course, not making money or having a low salary for all of the effort, all of the work you put in.
Speaker BAnd I mean, it leads to burnout and even resentment I've seen happening.
Speaker BLike resentment towards being a coach because it's just not worth it.
Speaker ANo.
Speaker AAnd it takes too much effort to do what I desired to do without making it super complex with keeping it very simplistic.
Speaker AWe need to understand the equation, which I know that you do, who listens.
Speaker ABut the equation is that in order for you to help as many people as you like, you need that system to also take care of you financially.
Speaker ABut not just you financially, they need to put something at stake.
Speaker ASo I've said this a thousand times in this podcast up until now.
Speaker AThe more your client pays, the more invested they be, which means their effort is going to go up.
Speaker AThat means that you need to stand for their future value enough so that you're assembled with the value in your program.
Speaker AYou need to take a stand for that.
Speaker AI am here to help you all the way.
Speaker AAnd your intention and your energy is more important than how sophisticated your coaching program is.
Speaker ABecause if you just take a stand, and this is something that I actually did when I started to my coaching journey like 12 years ago, really taking a stand for, I'm going to do whatever it takes to make sure that all of my clients succeeds.
Speaker AAnd then you kind of infuse that into yourself so that you really put that into your nervous system.
Speaker AThen it doesn't matter if you fail a meeting, it doesn't matter if all of your trainings are top tier.
Speaker ABecause what's going to happen in the big picture is that your clients are always going to get the help they need to take their next step because you have decided that you will not fail them.
Speaker AAnd if you come from that commitment to your future clients, the sales calls are a thousand times easier.
Speaker AAnd you're going to look towards their capabilities rather than their insecurities.
Speaker AYou're going to look for their opportunities rather than what stands in their way to be able to join.
Speaker ABut during every sales call, because that's when we meet the objection, I can't afford it, I don't have any money.
Speaker AAnd during every sales call, there is always someone buying.
Speaker AAnd it's either you who buys their objection, why they can't, or it's them who buys your reasoning to why it's important enough anyway.
Speaker AAnd this is not taking it to towards fooling someone or manipulating anyone in a sales call.
Speaker AThis is for them, giving them space enough to really figuring out a decision for themselves.
Speaker AAnd that's something that comes from your commitment in helping people and to begin with, taking a real stand for who is it that I'm going to help and what is it all about?
Speaker AWhy is this important to me?
Speaker AIf you do that, your coaching businesses are going to do way, way better than it does currently.
Speaker AIf you aren't already 100%.
Speaker BIt might sound like we are pigging down on people who are doing this, but I really want to share.
Speaker AAlso, I'm sorry for interrupting you with what you were about to say, but we come from that place.
Speaker AYeah, we all start out where we are.
Speaker ASorry.
Speaker APlease continue.
Speaker BThat's Fine.
Speaker BNo, but because we did that, because we were at some point so committed to that, like, we help more than 800 clients.
Speaker BWe know our clients get the best freaking results in Europe, maybe even outside.
Speaker BWe know our clients are winning.
Speaker BIf they just show up.
Speaker BIf they just implement the specific tactics we give them, they win.
Speaker BIt goes like that every single time.
Speaker BSo we got to a point where it was like, okay, but you know, we have a soft heart like most coaches also, which means that when we have people in front of us, we.
Speaker BWe have that soft spot in our hearts where it's like, but I want to help this person because I know that the problem they have right now is just a very short term problem.
Speaker BThey can't pay right now, but I know they'll make money, like within the first couple of weeks, they'll make money if they just follow the program.
Speaker BSo we got into a place where we started, like saying, okay, but you don't need to pay now.
Speaker BYou can pay in a month.
Speaker BYou can get started now.
Speaker BWe give you the first month for free and then you pay afterwards.
Speaker BAnd what happened?
Speaker AThey started on the wrong premise.
Speaker ASo we have an expression in Sweden that's called doing someone a bear favor.
Speaker BYeah.
Speaker AAnd that's what it was.
Speaker AWe did them a favor that didn't allow them to step into the shoes that were necessary in order for them to progress.
Speaker AAnd the problem was that statistically they wanted out.
Speaker ASo instead of us helping them, we put them on a monthly work schedule that they ended up wanting out of.
Speaker AAnd when we allow people in, you know, the only thing that happens is that we build tension unnecessarily because they didn't allow themselves to step into those shoes.
Speaker AAnd I remember when I started out, my first three clients that I signed, the first one was on a payment plan.
Speaker AShe paid X amount of money to get in, and then she was supposed to pay once she got in.
Speaker AResult.
Speaker ABut because she felt that the first installment was something that she could afford to lose, she didn't do much after that.
Speaker AShe came for the personal development and she loved that.
Speaker AAnd she was in and out kind of all the time.
Speaker ABut she never really applied anything to her coaching business.
Speaker AAnd that was something that I had to learn from.
Speaker BWe know what happens when people are coming in not paying.
Speaker BWe actually tracked it.
Speaker BOut of everyone who did not pay when they started to join the program, more than 86% were out again within the first two months because they did not do anything.
Speaker BThey tried.
Speaker BThey dipped the toes.
Speaker BThey tried a little bit but then, oh, it's a little bit uncomfortable.
Speaker BI'm not going to do anything.
Speaker BAnd at the end we just need to kick them out because it was just too much worried.
Speaker BSo I understand the feeling of I really want to help this person.
Speaker BBut we can't help people by being responsible for them, towards them.
Speaker BThey need to want their thing just as much as we want.
Speaker BThey need to invest in order to get any result.
Speaker BIf they're not invested, they are not invested in time and energy as well.
Speaker BWhere money goes, the energy will come as well.
Speaker BSo that is the thing that we see happens a lot.
Speaker BSo what are we going to do?
Speaker BOne thing is the messaging we're saying.
Speaker BWhat is the word we're saying?
Speaker BPeople often believe that messaging or finding out your niche is about like, am I going to have this niche and this niche.
Speaker BBut building out your niche is rather vertical of like what is the level of the lead within the niche you're at?
Speaker BAre you talking to the bottom feeders or are you talking to the people who already are in a good place within your niche but want it better?
Speaker BWhat the next step that is all about?
Speaker BHow do we speak?
Speaker BWhat is the words we're using?
Speaker BHow do we speak to our audience?
Speaker BAnd that comes also from our energy.
Speaker BLook at your video content, look at how you speak.
Speaker BAre you speaking like, oh, I really want to help you.
Speaker BYou are good enough.
Speaker BYou can do this, I know you can do it.
Speaker BYou're coming from that nursing point.
Speaker BAre you coming from a place of your energy speaking to people who are willing to work, willing to do the thing, willing to do what it takes and that you, to show through your energy that, that you trust they're capable, speak to people capable.
Speaker AAnd I, and I also want to emphasize that you have a very strong and very high paced energy.
Speaker AYeah, I have a very different energy.
Speaker BYes, absolutely works.
Speaker BAbsolutely.
Speaker ASo it's not about how you are as a person, but if we dissect it, you mentioned three or four levels.
Speaker BYeah.
Speaker AEither in the bottom, they're sliding, they're stable or they're, they're professionals or masters.
Speaker BOr top team leaders in.
Speaker BWithin the niche.
Speaker BYeah.
Speaker ASo those four different levels we have and you can actually choo level you want to work in.
Speaker AAnd sometimes it can be a good idea to work at the level of beginners, especially if you're working in a niche.
Speaker ALike we started out at the bottom with coaches starting out, but it was when they had made a decision to go into coaching and start a business.
Speaker ASo that commitment was already There and then we could help them from the bottom and helping them all the way up.
Speaker AWhen we are looking for, let's take a life coach that helps people with confidence.
Speaker ASpeaking to someone at the very bottom, we are going to have symptoms of a lot of different diagnosis or diseases or they're going to be on sick leave or burnout or whatever.
Speaker AAnd that might not be a healthy place to start out your coaching business.
Speaker ABut you can also talk about confidence on the.
Speaker AOn the leader level.
Speaker ASo what does confidence look like to a leader in society within their whatever area?
Speaker BAnd a leader doesn't mean they're leaders in position a job.
Speaker AIt means that they are leading in society compared to what it is that you help people with.
Speaker ASo in this case confidence.
Speaker ASo what kind of problems do they have and what do they need help with?
Speaker ABecause if you figure that out, you can help people that are leaders in your area and still help them out to systematize their confidence in order to like get even more results faster or whatever.
Speaker BWhich also means that they will just reflect your energy that you comes in.
Speaker BBecause if you speak like a person who's uncertain, like speaking from the bottom, that's what you'll attract naturally.
Speaker BYou will absolutely not get stable or leader people in within.
Speaker BIf you're speaking with an energy of.
Speaker AA button and that needs to be a conscious decision you make as a coach, to whom am I going to speak to and at what level?
Speaker AAre they.
Speaker AAre they beginners?
Speaker AAre they slipping?
Speaker AAre they stable or are they.
Speaker BYes.
Speaker BAnd then the second thing is like your standards, what is the standards you working with?
Speaker BLike what is the minimum standard?
Speaker BWhat do you allow in your own life?
Speaker BWhat do you allow with your clients?
Speaker BWhat do you allow with your leads?
Speaker BWhat, what is the standard you are okay with?
Speaker BWhat is the standard that you don't want?
Speaker BYou will always not get what you want, but you always get what you accept and tolerate.
Speaker AAnd when it comes to standards, it's really important to know what a standard is.
Speaker AIf we were to distinguish what a standard is and make a distinct function out of it, it's something that you can measure on a curve over time.
Speaker AAnd it's a tangible thing that we can measure.
Speaker ASo we need to be able to put data points.
Speaker ASo having a standard of brushing your teeth, for most people it's two times a day.
Speaker AFor some it's more, for some it's less.
Speaker ABut.
Speaker ABut it is a standard.
Speaker ASo we can see a repeating pattern of how we behave within an area.
Speaker ASo when discovering the kind of standards you want to have for your clients, then you also want to speak to them as capable beings that can live up to the standards that you educate on or that you help them to live on.
Speaker AAnd that is very important.
Speaker AThe lowest allowed standard in a subject will automatically become the standard in that subject.
Speaker ASo if you tolerate mediocrity in an area in your life, then you're going to have mediocrity in that, in that area in your life.
Speaker AMaybe not at times, but over time.
Speaker ASo if you allow something to be at one level, let's take an example of us and it's very traditional, man, woman, and talking about cleaning our house, I even see that it needs cleaning when you feel that it needs cleaning.
Speaker ASo I need help.
Speaker AYou need to tell me that, hey, could we vacuum or could we take care of this?
Speaker ASo it's because we have different standards.
Speaker AAnd because of our different standards, it changes the way we look at things.
Speaker AAnd that's the same way in business, your coaching business.
Speaker AIt's the same for all of your clients when they're trying to achieve something and we need to help them become aware of what do I need to focus on so that I can put my energy in the right place to achieve my desired outcome.
Speaker BDefinitely number three, protect your time.
Speaker BProtect your energy and time.
Speaker BThat means don't make it as easy to get on a call with you if this is a person that is going to get to this point.
Speaker BNow you did say from the beginning people who say they don't have money will still buy because it is an objection.
Speaker BWe can handle the money objection.
Speaker BWhen they realize how important it is, we can handle it.
Speaker BBut what we can do is that we can protect ourselves so we can clean out.
Speaker BThat means that in organic, when we are now DMs, we can pre qualify people before we all offer them a call.
Speaker BSo if they already telling you in the DMS that hey, I'm on social benefits and I don't know how to pay my bills, maybe this is not a person you should invite to have a sales call.
Speaker BYou can do that even if you, you use systems funnels.
Speaker BYou can put them through pages where you pre qualify them before they can even schedule the call.
Speaker BYou can take them through a process between the schedule a call before they show up on a call where you can handle a lot of these things.
Speaker BA really important standard to have as a coach, I believe is also to protect your energy, protect your time from people who are not serious.
Speaker AYeah.
Speaker AAnd this I want to add that conversation you just had is tailored for people who are doing money already.
Speaker A5k a month, 10k a month.
Speaker ABecause in the beginning it might also make sense to see can I get.
Speaker BCalls to practice sales calls to practice sales calls.
Speaker ABut also to see and qualify.
Speaker AThat's my marketing.
Speaker ABut I also want to add that you said something else that is super important and it is protect your time and energy.
Speaker ATake how do you protect your time and energy?
Speaker AYou need to say no to stuff.
Speaker BYeah.
Speaker AAnd if you're looking for short fixes that gives you immediate gratification, then it might not serve you in the long run.
Speaker AAnd that's something you should say no to.
Speaker ABut it also should be that there are a thousand things that you should say no to.
Speaker AIf a client reaches out and wants to talk and it's Friday night at 9pm, it doesn't mean that, hey, jump on that call right now.
Speaker AEven if you're on a thousand percent committed to their future success.
Speaker ABecause protecting your time and energy means to really be concerned with what am I putting my time and energy into.
Speaker AAnd no is a very powerful part of that equation.
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Speaker BAsk us questions if there's anything you're lacking so we can make the best program for you.
Speaker BSo until then, we'll see you next week.
Speaker AYeah.
Speaker AThanks for tuning in.
Speaker AIn.