Safe and sound, a polyvagal approach for connection change.
Speaker:Hope and healing is now available, but should you get it?
Speaker:Is it helpful?
Speaker:Uh, who's it for?
Speaker:What's actually in it?
Speaker:I'll answer these questions in this book review episode and help you
Speaker:decide whether to get it or not.
Speaker:Hi, my name is Justin Sunseri.
Speaker:I am a therapist and coach who helps you live more calmly, confidently, and
Speaker:connected without psychobabble or woo woo.
Speaker:Welcome to Stuck Not Broken.
Speaker:Safe and Sound is written by Steven Porges, the Polyvagal theories
Speaker:creator, and Karen Onderko- she really brought the Safe and Sound Protocol
Speaker:from the lab into the clinical world.
Speaker:The majority of the book is devoted to 13 real life stories of individuals who have
Speaker:undergone the Safe and Sound Protocol.
Speaker:The people in the stories come to SSP for many, many different reasons.
Speaker:Everything from throat complaints to dissociation.
Speaker:These people didn't necessarily seek out SSP, but their providers implemented
Speaker:SSP into what they were doing.
Speaker:Some people sought out SSP.
Speaker:They have a wide, the, the clients have a wide range of diagnoses,
Speaker:and the SSP providers come from a equally wide range of professional
Speaker:disciplines, from therapists to coaches to physical therapists and more.
Speaker:Polyvagal informed case breakdowns from Dr. Porges himself follow
Speaker:the stories, and that was really my favorite part of the book.
Speaker:The Safe and Sound Book also has other sections in it.
Speaker:And those include a listing of the primary and mixed states, which I thought was
Speaker:really thorough and really well done.
Speaker:It also has a self-regulation toolbox with a whole bunch of, uh, options
Speaker:in it for you and a whole bunch more.
Speaker:So what's the point of the book?
Speaker:During my interview with the authors, which also came out today,
Speaker:Karen in particular expressed concern that the book might come
Speaker:across, uh, like an advertisement.
Speaker:I don't think it reads like an advertisement, personally.
Speaker:Uh, I was definitely worried about that before when I got it, but I
Speaker:don't think it comes across that way.
Speaker:It reads as a genuine attempt to share information about the safe and sound
Speaker:intervention and it, the application of SSP as well as the stories of success.
Speaker:So again, I was kind of expecting it to be an ad, but I didn't get
Speaker:that when I actually read it.
Speaker:I don't think you will either.
Speaker:You could watch and listen to that episode through the link in the description.
Speaker:It's out now.
Speaker:The safe and sound.
Speaker:Book is fundamentally about the Safe and Sound Protocol and how it benefits the
Speaker:client, the individuals, the clients, although there are a few other sections
Speaker:that supplement, uh, the content that supplement the client stories.
Speaker:The authors wanted the book to provide an avenue for hope, and I think
Speaker:they accomplished that personally.
Speaker:Anyone interested in SSP is going to get the answers that they're looking for.
Speaker:Before reading this book, I was familiar with SSP, but I didn't really know
Speaker:much about it, and I didn't know much about it in detail really at all.
Speaker:Um, but I'd heard about it.
Speaker:I had read a little bit about it, and I had heard from people who had gone
Speaker:through it that are part of my community that they share their experience.
Speaker:So I, I knew a little bit about it, but really it was more
Speaker:something I was, SSP was something that I was really curious about.
Speaker:The book Satisfied all my curiosities about SSP- how it works and
Speaker:what the music is like, and what the evidence is for it as well.
Speaker:So for me, it solidified that SSP is a viable intervention with real results.
Speaker:And my interview with Karen and Dr. Porges took that even further
Speaker:and clarified for me even further.
Speaker:I really invite you to listen to that as well.
Speaker:So, who is the Safe and Sound book for exactly.
Speaker:That's kind of a tough one to answer because I'm not entirely sure.
Speaker:It seems like it's for anyone who already knows about the Polyvagal
Speaker:Theory, although it does have a brief rundown of the Polyvagal Theory within
Speaker:it and the autonomic nerve system and the primary and the mixed states.
Speaker:So it's for anyone who's already a, has some level of knowledge of
Speaker:Polyvagal Theory, not for the beginner.
Speaker:So it's someone who has that knowledge and is curious about SSP.
Speaker:It's a super niche population I think that they're targeting.
Speaker:So very, very small group of people.
Speaker:So if you are curious about SSP and have a pretty good knowledge of the Polyvagal
Speaker:Theory, then yeah, this book is for you.
Speaker:You will get your questions answered whether you're a client or a
Speaker:potential professional provider that that's interested in SSP.
Speaker:You'll get those questions answered.
Speaker:And yeah, the book's for you, that much is clear.
Speaker:If you're looking for an avenue of hope, then, yeah, I,
Speaker:I think the book is for you.
Speaker:If you're wondering whether SSP would be helpful for you as a provider to a client,
Speaker:then yeah, I think you'll get those answers as well and the book is for you.
Speaker:The book is kind of for everybody, but really only the everybody's that have
Speaker:extremely specific interests, which is Polyvagal Theory and the Safe and Sound
Speaker:Protocol, and are providers or potential clients to receive the SSP interventions.
Speaker:Very specific.
Speaker:The intention of the book is to provide hope, and it accomplishes
Speaker:that no matter who the audience is.
Speaker:Okay, so my overall thoughts about the Safe and Sound Book.
Speaker:Overall I liked it.
Speaker:It's a interesting read.
Speaker:The case studies are really the heart of the book and are not disappointing.
Speaker:I especially liked the case breakdowns from Dr. Porges and
Speaker:uh, I wish that the book spent more time on the case breakdowns.
Speaker:Those were, to me the most significant.
Speaker:But I'm, I'm provider and I read his primary source stuff and I implement
Speaker:Polyvagal Theory into everything I do.
Speaker:So that really hooked me.
Speaker:So I especially like the case break breakdowns, and I wish that
Speaker:they had spent more time on those.
Speaker:The case breakdowns are fairly short, but they do contain some really
Speaker:good nuggets that I think could have used some more love and attention
Speaker:and really been expanded upon.
Speaker:There- there was a lot here that could have gone deeper and wasn't.
Speaker:Outside of the case studies, and outside of Dr. Porges'
Speaker:breakdown of the case studies.
Speaker:The rest of the book is fine.
Speaker:Um, there's a brief rundown of the Polyvagal Theory.
Speaker:I don't know who needs that at this point, that has covered so many
Speaker:places and for free, but it's there.
Speaker:There is a, and that seems to be standard in the Polyvagal Book world,
Speaker:is here's a chunk on the theory itself.
Speaker:There's, I even have my own book.
Speaker:The first book is all about Polyvagal Theory.
Speaker:Anyhow, there's a comprehensive list in the book of the primary and the mixed
Speaker:states with some discussion on each.
Speaker:I thought they did a really good job with that.
Speaker:It was very comprehensive.
Speaker:Um, there's a section on some regulation ideas and short and long-term
Speaker:effects of autonomic dysregulation on various bodily systems, which I
Speaker:thought was pretty darn interesting.
Speaker:I haven't seen that anywhere else.
Speaker:So I liked that section.
Speaker:That's probably something I'll refer to, um, well as needed.
Speaker:So all these pieces are interesting in and of themselves.
Speaker:They, they could live alone as books on their own, like
Speaker:they could be expanded upon.
Speaker:So they're interesting in and of themselves, but the book as a whole
Speaker:doesn't feel like a well thought out single piece of nonfiction literature.
Speaker:These other sections feel more like page padding in all honesty, like they
Speaker:were brought together to make the book longer, or wel- more well-rounded,
Speaker:but it strikes me as unnecessary.
Speaker:Interesting.
Speaker:But unnecessary.
Speaker:I don't hate that it's there, but I don't need 'em there either.
Speaker:So I don't think it hurts the experience and probably should
Speaker:not deter you from buying it.
Speaker:Just my thoughts.
Speaker:It's helpful, it's interesting, but it's also unnecessary and I would prefer to see
Speaker:more time spent on the case studies, maybe more case studies or a deeper analysis
Speaker:of each case study, especially from Dr. Porges- hearing his, the primary source
Speaker:expert level, um, thoughts on those.
Speaker:So really the case discussions are what you're buying the book for, I would argue.
Speaker:The rest of the material is there.
Speaker:Um, but not essential.
Speaker:Do I recommend buying the Safe and Sound Book?
Speaker:Um, if you're curious about SSP and you know, the Poly Vehicle Theory and you have
Speaker:$21 to spend on Amazon, then yeah, sure.
Speaker:I, I recommend it.
Speaker:At the very least, it satisfies your curiosity.
Speaker:And I also think that it provides the avenue for hope that they were hoping for.
Speaker:Like, well, that they wrote the book for.
Speaker:I think they accomplished that.
Speaker:So if you need an avenue for hope, um, then yeah.
Speaker:I think this accomplishes that, and it will provide it for you.
Speaker:If you're ready to try something new and you're interested in SSP.
Speaker:Yeah, this book does a really good job of explaining what SSP is, what
Speaker:it could look like, who it's for.
Speaker:So yeah, overall, I, I do recommend for 21 bucks if you're interested, if you know
Speaker:the Polyvagal Theory and you specifically want information on, on SSP, then yeah,
Speaker:I, I definitely recommend the book.
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