Welcome to episode 227 of the Business Development Podcast.
Speaker AAnd today we're talking all about LinkedIn engagement.
Speaker AThe good, the bad, the ugly.
Speaker AWhat's working, what's hot in 2025?
Speaker AIf you've been struggling to get engagement on LinkedIn, this episode is for you.
Speaker AStick with us.
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Speaker BWelcome to the Business Development Podcast.
Speaker BAnd now your expert host, Kelly Kennedy.
Speaker AHello.
Speaker AWelcome to episode 227 of the Business Development Podcast.
Speaker AMy gosh, guys, 227 episodes in 26 months of the show.
Speaker AWe are celebrating our 26 month anniversary of the Business Development Podcast.
Speaker AGuys, I did a little basic math and that works out to nine episodes per month on average over the past couple of years, guys, it's been pretty incredible.
Speaker AIt's been an incredible journey and I wanted to start today's show.
Speaker AWhether this is your first time joining us on the Business Development podcast or whether it's your 227th time, thank you so much for listening to the show.
Speaker AThank you so much for joining us.
Speaker AWeek over week, month over month, year over year.
Speaker AThis show is for you.
Speaker AI could not do this show without you.
Speaker AMy rock stars, my incredible, incredible listenership.
Speaker AYou are amazing and I have some many thanks for you guys.
Speaker AAs we get to the end of the show, obviously the Quill Podcast Awards are starting up and we received a ton of nominations and so I just have to thank each and every one of you.
Speaker AI appreciate it, I appreciate that and I appreciate you guys immensely.
Speaker AToday I wanted to spend some time talking about LinkedIn.
Speaker AYou know it guys.
Speaker AWe love LinkedIn on this show and specifically I wanted to talk about how do we get better engagement on LinkedIn?
Speaker AI get questions on this from you guys all the time.
Speaker AHow do I get more engagement for my posts?
Speaker AI'm posting but it's not working.
Speaker AI'm putting out good content but nobody's seeing it.
Speaker ASo today we're going to talk all about it.
Speaker AWe're going to talk about LinkedIn engagement we're going to talk about what is working, what's hot on LinkedIn in 2025, and I'm going to go over some of my own lessons that I've learned along the way.
Speaker AGuys, I could not have done this show, this specific show a year ago.
Speaker AWhy?
Speaker ABecause I was not getting good engagement on LinkedIn.
Speaker AI had to learn as I went.
Speaker AAnd it's funny, you know, I'm a bit of a case study on this and we're going to get into it, but I've grown this entire show from the very beginning on LinkedIn.
Speaker AThe very first social media page I had for the business development podcast was a LinkedIn page.
Speaker AAnd so from the very beginning of the show, I've been learning, how do you leverage LinkedIn?
Speaker AHow do you get better engagement?
Speaker AHow can I grow this show organically, get as many eyes on it as possible utilizing LinkedIn and utilizing it specifically on organic LinkedIn, we do advertise.
Speaker AWe advertise on Spotify and a little bit on Instagram, but on LinkedIn, I don't genuinely think you have to.
Speaker AAnd I'm going to get into that.
Speaker AObviously we can always Pay for ads.
Speaker ALinkedIn is, you know, the same as the rest of them on that front.
Speaker ABut LinkedIn specifically is designed in such a way that you can get a ton of organic impressions on your content if you can learn how to market it.
Speaker AAnd so today we're going to Talk all about LinkedIn and how we can better organically grow both our corporate and personal brands here in 2025 and beyond.
Speaker AChances are you are using LinkedIn, you're working hard, crafting great posts, great videos, lessons, but they are simply not getting the attention that you wish they would.
Speaker AWell, guys, I have good news for you and bad news for you.
Speaker AThe good news is you are not alone.
Speaker AOver 80% of posts on LinkedIn get little to no engagement.
Speaker AOver 80%, guys.
Speaker AAnd I've seen numbers even higher than that, pushing closer to 90, 95% are getting little to no engagement.
Speaker ASo if this is you, you're not alone.
Speaker ADon't feel bad.
Speaker ABy the time we're done today's show, I think we're going to set you up for a little better success.
Speaker AAccording to rival IQ.com the median engagement rate by impressions is just 4.73%.
Speaker AThat means that for every 100 times that your post is seen an impression, only four to five people are engaging with it.
Speaker AThey're either liking commenting, sharing, or clicking.
Speaker ASo 4 to 5%, guys.
Speaker A4 to 5 people out of every 100 that see your post, do anything with it at all.
Speaker AIf 1000 people see your post, you would be likely to get about 47 of them to interact with it.
Speaker ASo what this means, guys, is that if we want to get good engagement on LinkedIn, we have to get as many eyes as possible on this.
Speaker AAnd this might mean that just simply sharing your stuff on your page isn't going to be enough unless you have a really massive following.
Speaker AAnd not just a massive following, but a massive following of people who like to engage with content.
Speaker AOkay, so once again, if we are only getting a 4.73% engagement rate, and that's what's important to you, that people are liking and commenting on your posts, we need to get these posts in front of quite a few people.
Speaker AOkay, so if you've been struggling to get the engagement that you need, we're simply going to have to reevaluate our tactics.
Speaker AFor most people, simply posting on your page is not going to be enough to get the engagement you want, especially if you're looking for that, like, let's call it 15, 20 comments, 50 likes, some shares, right?
Speaker AI think somewhat, we expect that that is what should happen.
Speaker ABut the statistics don't lie, guys.
Speaker A4.73%.
Speaker A4 to 5 people out of 100 people will engage with your content.
Speaker ASo if you're looking to get 50 likes, now we're talking.
Speaker AWe got to get this thing in front of like a thousand, two thousand people at a time every time.
Speaker ASo we have to frame shift a little bit about what it's going to take to get the engagement that we want.
Speaker AOkay, we're going to have to reverse engineer this a little bit.
Speaker ALet's start by looking at what's hot on LinkedIn in 2025.
Speaker AIf we want good engagement on our content, we have to have good content.
Speaker ASimply, you are competing against a sea of content at this point.
Speaker AWe've talked about it multiple times on the show.
Speaker AWe need stuff that's visually appealing, impactful, resonates with people.
Speaker AYou know, puts a smile on people's faces, makes them want to engage with it.
Speaker AYou're dealing with people like me that are millennials.
Speaker AIncredibly short attention spans.
Speaker AAs a millennial, we have a 12 second attention span.
Speaker AGen Z have eight second attention spans.
Speaker ASo you are fighting for attention, guys.
Speaker AYou are fighting harder than you have ever had to fight for attention in.
Speaker AAnd so if your posts are lackluster, if your content is simply not that exciting, you have to really focus first off on creating content.
Speaker AThat people are going to like, that people are going to want to interact with.
Speaker AOkay, so let's start by looking at what's hot on LinkedIn in 2025.
Speaker ANumber one, video content.
Speaker AJust as I've mentioned in many previous episodes, at this point, short form video content is absolutely king.
Speaker AIn 2025, video uploads on LinkedIn have been increasing by 44% year over year, and video posts generate 1.4 times more engagement than any other format.
Speaker AShort form video content specifically is working extremely well for executives and CEOs in particular, earning them up to four times the impressions that they would get from non video posts.
Speaker AAnd guys, I will be the first to say that this is absolutely true.
Speaker AWhenever I do video posts of any type, whether it's short form content from the business development podcast or whether it's, you know, a short form video clip from Authentic Hustle, those things are getting an absolute ton of engagement.
Speaker ALots of people stop and watch the videos, especially if they're short.
Speaker AAnd I really do think that that is the key word.
Speaker AYou're dealing with people with short attention spans.
Speaker AWe're like the, we're the generation of TikTok and short videos, right?
Speaker AThink about it from that standpoint.
Speaker AShort videos are king.
Speaker A90 seconds or less, guys, a minute and a half tops, and you can get up to four times the engagement from your other posts.
Speaker ANow, in my opinion, this doesn't mean that you should only do video posts.
Speaker ALet me just start by saying that right now I think a mix of content is always valuable, especially if you are doing educational things like we do on the business development podcast, or you're trying to inspire people.
Speaker AMixing, you know, quote posts with story posts with carousels with video.
Speaker AIt's all super effective and it leads to balance on your page.
Speaker AGuys, if everything you do is always a short form video, you might get lots of engagement, but people might get turned off over time.
Speaker AMake sure that while sure the short form video content is getting a ton of attention that you're peppering it in along with other valuable posts.
Speaker AI genuinely think having a balanced posting schedule of pictures, stories, carousels, videos, it's going to benefit you guys over time.
Speaker AIt's going to make your pages much more compelling for people to want to follow them.
Speaker AOkay?
Speaker AThe second thing that's really hot here, guys, in 2025 is authentic storytelling posts.
Speaker AOkay, I think we know this.
Speaker AWe love a good story.
Speaker APeople can connect with stories.
Speaker AWe can relate with stories, especially authentic stories of people's entrepreneurial experiences, challenges they're facing Family, business, life.
Speaker AAuthentic storytelling from your own experience is humanizing for both you and your brand, and it fosters deep connection with your audience.
Speaker AAnd I have had really great success with this, particularly in my sponsorship appreciation post.
Speaker ASo if you guys come on to the business development podcast page, you guys see that I do multiple sponsor appreciation posts per month for my sponsors, where I typically use carousels to create really cool stories for them, where I tell their story or sometimes I'll tell their story in a fun way.
Speaker AAnd I create posts that people want to sit and watch.
Speaker AAnd they do.
Speaker AMy sponsors appreciate it and my followers appreciate it because they're thoughtful and well done.
Speaker ANow, if you're trying to tell stories, I find that slideshows, carousels, and video all work extremely well.
Speaker AJust make sure that there's some visual appeal to them.
Speaker AMake sure that if you are using words, that the words are animated, that you're animating them with a program like Canva, or you're peppering in video into the story, or you have, you know, cool images along the way to help carry the story forward.
Speaker ABut think about it from a standpoint of I want to tell a story with this post.
Speaker ACool thing is you can tell a story in five slides and you can tell a story in 20 slides.
Speaker AIt's whatever you feel like when it comes down to telling the story.
Speaker ABut start to think about your products and services, your company, your life.
Speaker AHow could you tell a story in a slideshow?
Speaker AHow could you tell a story in images, videos, words?
Speaker AAnd you can create really amazing story ideas utilizing a program like Canva.
Speaker AGuys, we use Canva for all of our story posts.
Speaker ASo whenever you guys are seeing that, very likely I created that on Canva.
Speaker AAnd they can be done really time effective and have a really cool impact with your audience.
Speaker ANumber three, incorporating humor is powerful in 2025.
Speaker ALinkedIn is way different now than it was way back in 2013.
Speaker AWe can pretty much call LinkedIn 2013 the pompous, stuck up LinkedIn and you now have permission to be yourself.
Speaker AThere's been a massive shift in LinkedIn.
Speaker AI still get questions all the time.
Speaker ALinkedIn is for professionals only, right?
Speaker ALike I can't just like post like I do on Facebook.
Speaker AAnd the answer is post however the hell you want on LinkedIn.
Speaker AShow up however you want.
Speaker ALinkedIn has shifted.
Speaker AI would say maybe it's a demographic shift or something along those lines.
Speaker ABut the way that we did LinkedIn in 2013 is not how we're doing LinkedIn today.
Speaker ALinkedIn, you can talk about anything.
Speaker AYou can talk about life, you can talk about business, you can talk about health, you can talk about mental health.
Speaker AIt's really this super cool, free place where you can show up and be yourself.
Speaker AYes, it's still professional.
Speaker AIt's still primarily professionals on it, but it's professionals who can be themselves.
Speaker ASo don't be afraid to be yourself on LinkedIn.
Speaker AProfessional is fine guys, but authentic you is better.
Speaker AAnd if you happen to be funny, well friggin use it.
Speaker ABecause according to Financial Times, there has been a 160% increase in users that are looking for comedy posts and ways to laugh on LinkedIn.
Speaker ALinkedIn even added the laughing emojis to accommodate this new trend.
Speaker ASo there you go guys, there's your permission.
Speaker AJoke away.
Speaker AHave fun on LinkedIn.
Speaker AComedy is powerful.
Speaker AComedy is okay.
Speaker ANow guys, we've talked about the content or the way to create content that is highly, highly valuable on LinkedIn.
Speaker ABut remember, content for content's sake is nothing we have to think about what do we want to do with that content?
Speaker AWhat do you want your video to do?
Speaker AWhat do you want your carousel post to do?
Speaker AWhat do you want your story post to do?
Speaker AAnd I would say what we do on the bdp, we're always here to educate and inspire.
Speaker ASo I'm always trying to find ways to educate my audience, to inspire people, to teach business development, to to teach entrepreneurship, to teach podcasting, to teach the lessons that I can provide to the world and have a little bit of fun with it along the way.
Speaker AAnd really guys, in 2025 you can educate your way to stardom and I highly, highly recommend that you do.
Speaker AEducational posts are consistently the top performing content on LinkedIn and remain one of the best ways, if not the best way to boost engagement in 2025 and beyond.
Speaker AAnd I would say, guys, the recipe for a great educational post is this.
Speaker AThey have to be number one value driven people.
Speaker ACome to LinkedIn to learn and grow.
Speaker AMake sure to provide a ton of value in every post.
Speaker AAsk yourself each time you post, did I provide some level of value to the person engaging with this content?
Speaker AIf the answer is no, you absolutely should not post that piece of content.
Speaker AUnless you just want to.
Speaker AI don't know.
Speaker ABut look to just create as much value as you can, right?
Speaker ATry to teach something, try to help somebody.
Speaker AIf every single day you help one person with your posts, you are on the right track.
Speaker ANumber two, make sure that whatever you do, you're doing it quickly.
Speaker ATry to deliver your lesson in 60 seconds or less because people on LinkedIn, they're not there for a long time, they're scrolling through quickly and they have really short attention span.
Speaker ASo if you hook them, you still might not hook them for very long.
Speaker ASo the faster that you can deliver your message, the more powerful your post is going to be, the more likely you're going to get great engagement.
Speaker AOkay?
Speaker AAnd number three, make sure that you ask every single person that if they found value in that post to reshare it to tell a friend to comment.
Speaker AHave them engage.
Speaker AIf they find value in your post, ask them to engage with it.
Speaker AIf you ask, you shall receive.
Speaker AAnd if engagement is what you are looking for, you have to ask for it.
Speaker ALook at every big post that you see on LinkedIn and very, very likely there was an ask to engage with it in one way or another.
Speaker ANow, there's another reason, guys, that teaching posts and educational posts are so powerful.
Speaker ATeaching builds trust and positions you as a thought leader and a subject matter expert.
Speaker ATeaching is also rewarding and a lot of fun.
Speaker AI could have never, ever seen how powerful me sharing my knowledge with the world was going to be.
Speaker AI could not have imagined that this show would be listened to in 145 countries around the world, that I would be reaching, you know, coast to coast, continent to continent.
Speaker AI never saw that, guys.
Speaker AI never saw that.
Speaker ABut we live in that time.
Speaker AAnd if you have valuable lessons, you will educate the world.
Speaker AIt is so incredible to have that kind of impact on the world.
Speaker AI am so grateful that I have been able to do that.
Speaker AI've genuinely just like felt the love from around the world.
Speaker AThere's nothing quite like having people from France, from people from Germany reach out and let you know people from Australia reach out and let you know how your content has made a massive impact in their life.
Speaker AHelp them get that job, help them land that next big client, help their business grow.
Speaker AIt is super, super cool, guys.
Speaker AAnd I would say that there's so much reward in that for you.
Speaker AIf you're looking for a reason to share your knowledge with the world, you don't need a bigger one than that.
Speaker AIt's really quite incredible.
Speaker AYou know, at this point, we've touched the lives of thousands and thousands of people around the world and I couldn't be more grateful for the opportunity to do so.
Speaker AAnd I genuinely say this and mean it.
Speaker AIt is a privilege, it is an honor and a privilege to be able to do this week over week, month over month, year over year.
Speaker AAnd I think you will find that too when you start Sharing your knowledge with the world.
Speaker AOkay, well, now that we have a good idea of what engaging content looks like, how do we get people to see it?
Speaker AThis is the biggest problem that I see on LinkedIn, okay?
Speaker AI see a lot of great content.
Speaker AThere's a lot of people posting really cool stuff.
Speaker ABut here, remember this.
Speaker AThere's so much noise.
Speaker AThere's so much noise on LinkedIn that standing out is really challenging, even for a show like mine.
Speaker AEven for posts like this that are super valuable to the world.
Speaker AYou still have to work for it if you want to get that message out there.
Speaker AOkay?
Speaker AI have a really unique experience at organic marketing on LinkedIn.
Speaker AI've been using LinkedIn to grow the audience and exposure of the show from the very beginning.
Speaker AAnd, guys, I've learned a lot in the process.
Speaker AAnd let me just start out by saying I do not have all the answers, okay?
Speaker AI do not have all the answers.
Speaker AI've interviewed people whose whole job it is to monitor LinkedIn and figure out what works and what doesn't work.
Speaker AAnd even they don't have all the answers because it changes all the time.
Speaker AWhat works and what doesn't work changes all the time.
Speaker ASo I can only speak to my experience as of this moment.
Speaker AHowever, I do think that no matter when you're finding the show, whether it's 2026, 2027, 2030, that a lot of these lessons are still going to be very valuable because some things just stand the test of time, no matter what the algorithms are doing.
Speaker AThe first thing that I've Learned is this LinkedIn offers an absolute ton of value.
Speaker AIt offers a ton of value, guys.
Speaker AAnd the further and deeper that I get into utilizing LinkedIn, figuring out what the features are, the more I'm like, wow, this program is absolutely incredible.
Speaker ABut once again, you must use it to its full potential.
Speaker AI see too many of you not completing your profiles, not filling out your featured sections, not setting up corporate company pages, not participating on LinkedIn, not utilizing your 100 invites a week, not posting consistently.
Speaker AGuys, guys, if you want to have success on LinkedIn, if this is truly important to you, to your personal brand, to your corporate brand, you have to use it, and you have to use it to its full potential.
Speaker AAnd yes, it's going to have a learning curve.
Speaker AI'm still learning how to utilize LinkedIn, and I've been utilizing it heavily for the last, you know, two and a half years of the show.
Speaker AI'm learning all the time.
Speaker AIt's changing all the time.
Speaker AThey're adding Features all the time.
Speaker AThe best way is just to invest a certain amount of time per Week into LinkedIn.
Speaker AOkay?
Speaker AAnd I get it, you're busy.
Speaker AI know I'm busy too.
Speaker ABut you have to find the time because LinkedIn will pay you back.
Speaker ABut you have to learn how to utilize it.
Speaker AOkay, One, we must post regularly, guys.
Speaker AWe have to post regularly three to five times per week.
Speaker AAt least three to five times per week.
Speaker AI want you guys to be posting corporate posts and personal posts.
Speaker AMix them up.
Speaker APersonal posts always get more engagement.
Speaker AWhy?
Speaker AThey're more relatable.
Speaker ABut if you want eyes on your corporate stuff, you have to do corporate posts as well.
Speaker ASo make sure that we are peppering corporate posts in with personal posts.
Speaker ABut I would say at least if you're doing three to five a week, make three of your posts.
Speaker APersonal posts to every two corporate posts.
Speaker AOr like two to one.
Speaker ABut trust me on this, your personal posts are good because they draw more eyes to your page.
Speaker AAnd then whatever you post after that will get more engagement.
Speaker AThis is why, as we move forward, that companies need to start encouraging their personnel to utilize LinkedIn on a personal level.
Speaker ABecause if they can all grow their LinkedIn's on a personal level, they're going to draw a lot more eyes to the corporate posts as time moves forward.
Speaker AYou must also utilize your 100 invites a week to connect with people who can relate and appreciate your content.
Speaker AOkay?
Speaker AIf you have a LinkedIn Premium account, you can send 100 invites a week for people to follow you and your page.
Speaker AThis is super, super valuable, guys.
Speaker ABut once again, it's one of those things, you don't use it, you lose it.
Speaker AYou get 100 a week and they don't roll over.
Speaker AAnd so if you're not utilizing all 100 of your invites to invite people who would find your page relevant, who would find your content valuable, you're leaving money on the table.
Speaker AOkay?
Speaker AYou have to start sending your 100 invites every single week.
Speaker AIt does not take long.
Speaker ATake 30 minutes out of your day.
Speaker AOn a Monday, send your hundred invites.
Speaker ABecause if you don't use them, you lose them.
Speaker ABut the more eyes you can get on your content, the better.
Speaker ASo start utilizing that feature.
Speaker AIf you have LinkedIn Premium, send 100 invites a week to get eyes of people who would find your content valuable.
Speaker AStart building your community.
Speaker AThe second lesson that I've learned is that content strategy is a long game.
Speaker AThink years, not months.
Speaker AAnd I know that's hard.
Speaker AIt's hard to hear.
Speaker AI didn't think so in the beginning either, I thought, oh yeah, I'll start a LinkedIn page for my, for my podcast and it'll just grow like wildfire.
Speaker AAnd yeah, it doesn't, it doesn't grow like wildfire.
Speaker AIt takes a lot of time.
Speaker AI work very, very hard to grow our LinkedIn page.
Speaker AI send 250 invites every single month.
Speaker ASo start of the month.
Speaker ABecause once again, if you have a corporate page of any kind, you can invite 250 people to follow it each month.
Speaker ASo once again, send those invites.
Speaker ABut that's just one way to grow your page.
Speaker ABut you have to start posting in multiple different locations to get eyes on what you do, okay?
Speaker AIt is not a short game.
Speaker AYou are not going to get millions of followers or even hundreds of thousands of followers in a year.
Speaker AYou're not going to do it in two years.
Speaker AIt takes time.
Speaker AGuys.
Speaker AIf you look at any of the big people on LinkedIn, the people with massive followings, millions followings, they've been at this for 10 years.
Speaker AThey've been at this for 10 years, okay?
Speaker AIt is not a short game.
Speaker AIf you want to grow a following, if you want to become a thought leader, you need to invest.
Speaker AYou need to invest the time.
Speaker AI actually interviewed, like I said, somebody whose whole job it is to follow LinkedIn and figure out the trends.
Speaker AThey told me that at bare minimum, you have to dedicate five years to the platform.
Speaker AYou have to dedicate five years to the platform.
Speaker AThat's multiple posts per week, that's engaging with the content, that's creating valuable content, that's building your personal brand, okay?
Speaker AIt is not going to happen overnight.
Speaker AStop looking for the quick fix.
Speaker AThere's nothing quick about growing a brand, okay?
Speaker AThere's nothing quick about growing your page.
Speaker AWhat I can say, it's going to be super valuable for you when you do it.
Speaker ABut like anything, you have to put in the time, okay?
Speaker AStop looking for the quick fix.
Speaker AContent strategy is a long game.
Speaker AThink years, not months, okay?
Speaker AThe third thing that I've learned is treat people with kindness and respect, okay?
Speaker ATreat everybody with kindness and respect.
Speaker AThey will stick around, okay?
Speaker AWe have incredible, incredible followers of this show who engage with the content all the time, who I have private messages with, who I talk with in the comments, who I've had video meetings with.
Speaker ALike, we have an incredible rockstar community on the business development podcast on our LinkedIn page and that was built over the last two and a half years of just being here, of showing up, of them knowing that it's me.
Speaker AIt's literally me commenting back, having that conversation with them.
Speaker AIt is powerful.
Speaker ABuilding a community is powerful, but you have to participate and you have to treat everybody with respect.
Speaker AEvery comment deserves respect.
Speaker AEvery message deserved respect.
Speaker ASomebody went out of their way to comment on your post.
Speaker ASomebody went out of their way to send you that dm, that private message.
Speaker AGive them the courtesy and message them back.
Speaker AI get it.
Speaker AI see it with some of, like the big content producers where I can either tell that they have an executive assistant answering them or worst case scenario, they literally have an AI bot answering for them.
Speaker AAnd it's so annoying and so disappointing because they never got to that following by doing that.
Speaker AI can tell you that right now.
Speaker AThey got there by initially participating, having conversations with people, building real relationship.
Speaker AIt's a respect thing.
Speaker AI genuinely think that if you are going to transfer your page over, you got to let people know.
Speaker AYou got to let people know that you're no longer commenting, that it's somebody else.
Speaker AI think it's kind of disingenuous because at the end of the day, they never built their personal brands that way.
Speaker AThey built their personal brands by participating in the conversations as themselves, Respond to every comment and message, thank people for their comments and insights, and build a community that you can be proud of and will be proud to be a part of.
Speaker AThis fourth thing is absolutely powerful.
Speaker AThis might be one of the most powerful messages in this entire episode.
Speaker AIf you only take one thing away from this episode, let it be this.
Speaker ALinkedIn groups are a secret weapon, okay?
Speaker AAny content provider worth their salt, they are posting like crazy across LinkedIn groups.
Speaker AOkay?
Speaker AHow do we do it?
Speaker AFirst, find groups that resonate with you.
Speaker AFigure out, where is my content going to resonate the best.
Speaker ADo we have AI content that would fit well in one of the big AI groups?
Speaker ADo we have leadership content that would fit well in one of the leadership groups?
Speaker ABusiness development.
Speaker AGreat.
Speaker AThere's a business development group.
Speaker AHotels, logistics, anything you can think of, there is a LinkedIn group for it.
Speaker AGuys, these groups typically have tens of thousands, if not hundreds of thousands, if not millions of people in them, okay?
Speaker AMassive, massive audience.
Speaker AMassive audience.
Speaker AThat absolutely trumps the 600 people to a thousand people you have on your LinkedIn.
Speaker AOkay?
Speaker ATrust me on this.
Speaker AIf you are looking to grow your personal brand, your corporate brand, you have to get eyes on it.
Speaker AThink about this from a standpoint of if you were to buy a billboard, okay, if you were to buy a billboard, we're in Canada, we're in Alberta.
Speaker ALet's Talk highway to one of the most highly traveled highways in Alberta every single day.
Speaker AOkay.
Speaker ABut you don't know who's traveling up and down that highway.
Speaker AAnd seeing your billboard, right?
Speaker AProbably one in every hundred, and that might even be generous, would find your brand content valuable on that billboard.
Speaker ANow, if you have a brand content that sells to oil and gas, and you are specifically in an oil and gas group with a million people in it, you know, pretty good chance you're getting, you know, up to a million eyes of people who can actually engage with your content at this point, guys, I would say that that's almost more valuable than buying a billboard on the busiest highway in Alberta.
Speaker AOkay, we have to learn how do we get our brand out there in cost effective ways, but also effectively efficient ways.
Speaker AOkay, guys, LinkedIn is it.
Speaker ALinkedIn is the answer.
Speaker AIf you want to get eyes on your content, consistently posting in groups that are relevant to your brand, and whatever you're trying to do is super, super valuable.
Speaker AOkay.
Speaker ALinkedIn has some interesting rules with their groups, though.
Speaker AI think you can only join a hundred, which obviously is a lot.
Speaker AYou're probably not going to join 100 groups, but I'm pretty sure you're limited to about 100 different groups you can join.
Speaker AYou also can only post 20 group posts per week.
Speaker AOkay, that means that you can post in one group 20 times, or you can post in 20 different groups the same post, but you are limited to posting only 20 group posts per week.
Speaker APosting directly in the group is better than resharing to the group.
Speaker ASo that's another little caveat that I'll tell you.
Speaker AWhen I was originally doing, you know, posts for the business development podcast, we used to share them.
Speaker AIn the beginning, we could share them to 100 a week.
Speaker AIt was absolutely crazy.
Speaker AThey've really reduced it.
Speaker ABut in the beginning of the show, I was sharing it to 100 groups per week.
Speaker AEvery time we posted a new episode to get new eyes on the show, it worked really, really well.
Speaker ABut once again, at the time I was doing reshares, I didn't understand how to do it.
Speaker AWe weren't getting quite the same level of engagement.
Speaker AWhat I learned later was it's actually better even if you're going to repost the same post to copy that post and post it as a new post in the group, attach the image or attach the video or whatever you're going to do, and do each one like an individual post.
Speaker AIt actually works better.
Speaker ASo don't re share to groups.
Speaker AStart a new post in each Group and redo the post over and over and over again if you like.
Speaker ABut it works super, super well to engage directly in the group, not re share to the group.
Speaker AAnd guys, you have to, you have to, you have to, you have to once again take advantage of your 20 group posts per week because if you don't use them, you lose them.
Speaker AThe next week it rolls over, sure, you get 20 again, but if you only use 10, you left 10 on the table.
Speaker ASo make sure.
Speaker AIf we're trying to get brand exposure, if we're trying to leverage LinkedIn to the maximum of its ability, we have to, have to, have to use it every week.
Speaker ADo your 20 group posts a week.
Speaker AIf you did a great personal post that week and it's killing it on your main page, take that same post and post it to 20 different groups and watch your impressions and engagement start to soar, okay?
Speaker ANot to mention your follows, because when you're posting in groups, people who don't know who you are are liking your content, thinking, hey, this person might be worth following and they give you a follow as well.
Speaker ANow, I think maybe one of the most important lessons that I have to give you guys with regards to group posting, okay, we have to look at it from a standpoint of is this valuable to you?
Speaker AMany of you are posting on LinkedIn with no idea if it's valuable or not, with no idea what it's doing for you, what the eyes are you're getting, and what maybe would work better for you.
Speaker AOkay, let me level set that for you today.
Speaker AWe talked about it in the beginning of this episode.
Speaker AOkay?
Speaker AIf you were only getting about 4.73% impression engagement, okay?
Speaker AThat means we need to get as many impressions as possible on our content to get engagement, to have people like it, share it, follow us, comment, okay?
Speaker AWe have to get as many impressions as possible, okay?
Speaker AThat means that from this point forward, from this day forward, every single time you do a group post, I want you to start evaluating the groups.
Speaker AI want you to start evaluating the groups.
Speaker AThere's an entrepreneurship group that works really well on LinkedIn.
Speaker AAnd for instance, if I post something in there, pretty much guaranteed I'm getting at least a thousand impressions on that post.
Speaker ASome get an absolute ton.
Speaker AI love that group.
Speaker AThat group will always get a post.
Speaker AThere's other groups that I post in that get very little engagement.
Speaker AIt could be a great post.
Speaker AIt could be the same post that just got 7,000 impressions in the one group.
Speaker AAnd maybe in this other group, I'm only getting like 200.
Speaker AYou need to start evaluating these groups.
Speaker AThis is where it's totally okay to come and go from groups based on what is valuable to you.
Speaker AIt is not worth your time if you continue to post to a group that gets very little engagement.
Speaker ARemove that group and find a new one that gives you great engagement.
Speaker AStart aiming to get bare minimum 300 impressions per post.
Speaker ASet a bar for yourself.
Speaker ASet a bar for yourself on when you will leave a group.
Speaker AOkay, if a group is only giving you on average 100, 150, 200 impressions per post, probably not worth it in the long run, right?
Speaker AWe need to make sure that our posts are getting bare minimum, 3, 4, 500 impressions and up.
Speaker ALet's figure them out.
Speaker ALet's make sure that all 20 of the groups that you post to every single week are high impressions and therefore over time, high engagement.
Speaker AIt's not worth it to post in these groups that don't provide you value.
Speaker AFind the groups that resonate with your message and double down.
Speaker AThis has been a big secret for me, guys.
Speaker AThis has been, you know, one of my big secrets on how I've leveraged LinkedIn to grow.
Speaker AAnd frankly, over this past little bit, I've been averaging around 20,000 impressions per week.
Speaker AAnd last but not least, guys, number five, never stop learning and trying things.
Speaker ASocial media preferences change with the wind.
Speaker AIt definitely seems that way.
Speaker ATry new mediums as they come available, right?
Speaker AIf there's something new, give it a go.
Speaker AYou never know.
Speaker AYou never know what's going to be powerful in a moment.
Speaker AYou have to be learning, you have to be trying it all.
Speaker ADon't be afraid to try video, short form video, carousels, pictures, typed content.
Speaker ADo whatever you can to figure out what content gets the most impressions and therefore the most engagements for you over time and double down on it.
Speaker AAnd when that stops working, try something else.
Speaker AThe secret to being successful on social media is to continue trying new mediums all the time.
Speaker AAnd when one stops working, don't quit, find the next thing.
Speaker AAnd I can't in good conscience do this show without talking about taking a break.
Speaker AOkay?
Speaker ASocial media is incredibly taxing.
Speaker AIt's the job none of us signed up for, including me.
Speaker ABut it's now a very required part of the job for growing a business, building a brand, getting your message out there like we have to put the time in it, is literally part of the job description at this point for many, many, many careers.
Speaker AAnybody building a personal brand, anybody even writing a book at this point needs to have social media like it's absolutely crazy.
Speaker ASo we have to put in the time.
Speaker ABut understand that if you need to take a break, it is okay.
Speaker AIt is okay.
Speaker AI get it.
Speaker AThree to five posts a week, every week, forever.
Speaker AIt's a lot.
Speaker AI totally get it.
Speaker ADon't feel bad if one week you can't keep up.
Speaker ADon't feel bad if one week you need to just shut the computer down and forget it exists.
Speaker AOkay, I've been there, done that.
Speaker AYou can absolutely take a break whenever you want and I encourage you to do so for your own mental health insanity.
Speaker AAs of this recording, April of 2025 like I said before, I average about 20,000 impressions per week on LinkedIn organically.
Speaker AGuys, this is not paid.
Speaker AThis is not paid.
Speaker AThis also translates to about 300 to 500 new followers to my pages per month.
Speaker AIt is crazy how fast things grow.
Speaker APost regularly, educate and inspire, share far and wide and re evaluate regularly and you will have a recipe for long term social media and LinkedIn success.
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Speaker AShout outs this week Carmen LaBelle, Colin Harms, Micah Dixon, Rodney Lover, Gary Noseworthy, Susan Paseca, Abe Duik, Zulk Malik Justin Larocque, Rudy A.
Speaker AZacharias, David Kravitz, Lauren graf, Mindy K.
Speaker AMcRae Broadbent, Mike Mack, Nathan Plumb, Stephen Morrissey, Jamar Jones, Jim Flett, Chris Schenck, Ross Huart, Erez Maggi, Eduardo Kano, Andrew Brown, Tiana, Mary Nusi, Tatiana Zamettalina, Mike Hayes, Allison Osborne, Michelle Sammy Weib and Rachel Blanton.
Speaker AUntil next time, you've been listening to the Business Development Podcast and we will catch you on the flip side.
Speaker BThis has been the Business Development Podcast with Kelly Kennedy.
Speaker BKelly has 15 years in sales and business development experience within the Alberta oil and gas industry and founded his own business development firm in 2020.
Speaker BHis passion and his specialization is in customer relationship generation and business development.
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