Everybody's got an opinion.

Every Californian and Virginian.

It's so hard to tell who to trust and who to ignore.

Someone's gotta settle the score.

Trey and Chelsey will help you choose.

Who's views win, which ones lose.

Online haters are coming for you.

Baby, it's time to Review That Review.

Hello.

Hello

Oh, hello and welcome to Review That Review.

We are the podcast that is dedicated to reviewing.

reviews

That is Chelsey Donn,

and that is Trey Gerrald,

and when we come together, we form.

The Review Queens.

and we are extra happy and excited today because this week we have A' very special.

Guest of honor.

Yes.

Oh my God.

We're so thrilled every so often.

We love to invite on A' special guest of honor to share some of their experiences dealing

Position,

With their expertise, we have them Donn their Review, Queen crowns,

and today we have the Mac and Cheese Queens of Philadelphia, the

'I have known the beautiful Pamela Jane since we were eight years old.

'I affectionately refer to her as PJ or pge.

You will likely hear me refer to her that way.

Throughout this episode, PJ Marty and 'I have always bonded over of love of good food.

So it's such A' delight to see them both soar and make A' career out of

With Mac Mar 'I could cove over these two Queens Trey.

Can you let our listeners know A' little bit more about the inspirational work

It'd be an honor.

Okay, so Mac Mart's tagline, nacho Mama's Mac is Philadelphia's first Mac and

Shortly after opening, Marty enlisted her sister, Pamela or PJ or pge, and then

Mac Mart's bright pink food truck, found instant success popping up at night

Catering for the likes of, excuse me, Forbes Star Events.

Philadelphia Eagles.

Philadelphia.

76 says Wawa one of

love sports.

love sport games and many more.

Now, they've also appeared multiple times selling out on Q VVC with their famous ma.

That's right.

And then in 2016, Mack Mart opened its first flagship store located in Rittenhouse,

If 'I do say so myself.

Today with A' seven-year-old storefront and tens of thousands of social media followers, Mack Mart

So get ready.

Okay.

If your mouth is watering, you might just have A' Mac Mart near you soon.

Yum.

Yum, yum.

At the time of this recording, Mac Mart has 343 Yelp reviews with an average rating.

A' four and A' half outta five stars.

Not too shabby.

Trey, what do you

Holy moly.

All right, so that was A' lot for the Mac Mart sisters to have to sit quietly

So without further ado, welcome the Mac Mart sisters, Marty and pj.

Woo.

We are so happy to have you guys.

We're so excited.

We're so excited in our closet.

So we wanted to talk to you.

We're so excited to have you here because we don't often get to speak with people that

And so can you just tell us A' little bit about how online reviews affect your business?

'I actually don't even know if they do.

Anymore.

Anymore.

Yeah, definitely, definitely has much less of an effect.

Yeah.

We used to get really wrecked about them, like really bad and like we'd call each other,

Um, this is also going back like close to 10 years because now like you could write A'

Yeah.

Someone doesn't like me.

Shocker.

So.

queenly and totally the right approach and 'I think that that's true.

'I think it's because you guys have been around A' while that you've like

'I mean 'I.

Think that's the 'I.

That's how I've gotten even doing the podcast.

'I think I've like 'I care less now because 'I 'I get it.

'I see it for what it is.

Right.

Yeah.

you remember the very first review you got?

Like, do you remember that moment?

We still know him.

Yeah.

We still know him.

And he still, yeah, we 'I mean we were lucky.

Our first review was, was A' Great review.

Yeah.

And he was A' Yelp back then.

So it was like A' three page, like there were paragraphs and there

Um, and we still A', great customer of ours, say we actually saw him last week.

Yeah.

Just A' week ago.

Um, but soon after that, the shitty one started rolling.

Right.

It's definitely A' ying and A' Yang.

Yeah.

you guys ever reply to A' review and then regret the reply 'I?

No, no.

'I.

'I know, so we don't respond to men.

Well, first and foremost, we don't respond to Yelp.

We've 'I don't know if we've ever responded to Yelp simply because

Mm-hmm.

Like when we,

Hilarious.

well, like, and when we did, we also had A' login

So it would almost actually always get messed up.

So 'I don't know if other than the first year we were ever open, if we responded to

Every review, but we respond with truths.

So even if we're responding to A' negative review, it's always gonna be respectful

Marty has A'.

Marty has A' certain tone, which is funny cause ChelseyBD who's known us forever, if she were

It's switched.

Mm-hmm.

Like I'm now the nice sister and 'I.

No, she, I'm going by what?

What people,

Marty's A'.

Little bit more spicy now.

Marty used to be the nice sister when we were little.

Marty is A' hardened angry business owner.

Yeah.

But also like A'.

Brilliant business owner.

But we've gotten past the dough and we're like at the center of the Ew.

Yeah.

And I'm on my second album where 'I get to do what 'I want.

Yeah, that's how 'I feel.

Do you remember when that switch happened?

probably like A'.

'I.

Honestly, 'I would actually say A' lot of help.

More so for my sister.

My 'I wouldn't even see the whole staff, but 'I would say my sister and, and

And so 'I think it was just them probably telling me so many times, like, This

So 'I think the thing, if 'I may say that is the most, again, like now 'I don't even care.

But like the thing that used to be most frustrating 'I think for Marty A', lot of

So like if you are getting A' container, that is actually the same container that you used to.

To get, but for whatever reason your memory is giving you A' whole different container.

You write an entire review based on how closer we stuck.

Cause we didn't tell them about the containers and it's smaller and it's more

That's true.

None of them.

And it's like those are the ones that you can't really go back and forth cuz then you just

When really it's like, I'm trying to find A' way though.

Yeah, she

' Chelsey Donn: I was gonna say 'I would respond.

If 'I were A' business owner, that would definitely be one.

'I would respond to.

'I would try Trey and 'I always.

We love A' reply from owner

the best part,

It's the best part.

And we do think there's something so amazing about being able to skirt that line of being

That is so sweet and kind.

And thank you so much for taking the time outta your day.

And gee, 'I, do hope that you still come back and see us.

But 'I just wanna clear it up in case there was any sort of confusion.

'I.

This is really what's going on here.

And when it's said in like such A' calm way, it completely shifts the power of the whole review.

It's A' game changer.

So anyway, Marty, keep on replying.

Okay.

Yeah, because we've found on the show many times, The power shifts so quickly when

A'.

Hundred percent.

Yeah.

And of course Trey and 'I are, are like always on the side of the business, but we never know what

And so there have been many times where Trey will read the review and I'll feel A' certain way, and

And 'I do think that that's the experience of the reader as well.

For what it's worth.

we've had actually A' lot of people reach out cuz Marty's now taken to

But 'I have to say though, the responses that we get, 'I don't know if I've ever read 'I.

A' response from A' follower or A' Random person that wasn't in support of the business.

Yeah.

Or what happened?

Like, but you know why?

It's very simple.

If, if you follow these rules, if you're honest, you have nothing to hide.

'I.

Right

exactly.

And, and, and listen.

We're not idiots in terms of like how we speak to people.

We're not gonna write like, you're A' fucking idiot.

You're A' liar.

That's not how you responded to someone who's, who's spreading untruths about

If someone writes our container, switched here, here, or here or here, 'I can, you know, 'I

Here's the thing.

Here's all these examples, first of all, that are on our social media

And then also like we've used this company for 10 years.

Our customers are very aware, like if you just support what you are saying with the

Yeah.

Agree.

Yeah.

Wait, 'I, wanna 'I Have one more follow up here though.

And, and we may, this may circle in through the whole episode here, but because you are business

Like how do you do that?

'I mean we are emotional.

Like Yeah, but 'I think, 'I think because of, here's A' thing and we're both sensitive.

We're Oh, we're, we're like jello.

Like there, like besides being A' tough exterior, we're extremely sensitive.

But 'I think we've, we've really been able to, because here's the thing, and I'm not gonna go

And that was always, literally, if someone were to ask us like one of the first five thoughts

So no matter what, someone's gonna come in.

And even if you hate the product, we're gonna kill you with kindness.

We're gonna be cool, we're gonna play great music while you're in there, like you're gonna enjoy it.

So at the end of the day, it's kind of like if someone's that nasty on the other

We've kind of learned, like 'I was in there when Joe Schmo got served his bowl and he's writing us

We were playing LL Cool J.

We were jamming out, we were talking about how Bacon's good on everything.

Like no way.

He could this miserable leaving A' mac and cheese store.

So we just chalk it up really to like the negativity is them the

But if you're gonna be A' dick about it, that's on you bro.

really

Because when I've been to businesses and 'I, it could be from food

One of the go-tos that 'I used to have was 'I wanted to let them know 'I was never coming back.

'I wanted to let them know that 'I already know their boss, which was never true.

'I like 'I know the high.

Yeah, exactly.

And then 'I would, 'I would wanna be bitchy and then like leave letting them

Like in some, like, in some like of A' fight.

But here's the great thing about now working in A' restaurant and dealing with that is that 'I, don't

They're either laughing or we're like, like we give A' shit.

Or like, oh, you know, 'I, you're talking, I'm so sorry.

You know, even if they were nice to me, like that's what everybody does.

So 'I, I'm never leaving and having them go, damn, you know what, 'I wish we got her number

Like that never happens.

Yeah.

So I've learned that the people that are still doing what 'I used to do,

They just don't know they're, and they don't think from any perspective except

'I.

heard.

That's, yeah, that's the whole premise of this podcast.

'I think has like just, you know, get people to see reviews that aren't,

Cuz my, my opinion has totally shifted and the way that 'I would leave reviews has also shifted.

So 'I, get that

Can 'I add one more thing without being A' mute?

Sorry, 'I.

We never about to add this.

'I.

Don't 'I.

Don't think so.

'I usually know when we are, but 'I don't think cause this is random.

So honest to God, 'I don't think any, any negative review would bother me.

Not that it does, but would bother me in the slightest back then if everybody that

But 'I started the review the way that 'I talk to people and act, which is listen.

'I already know that this isn't for everybody.

'I wanted to give it A' shot.

'I thought it was so disgusting.

But 'I think that like if you love gooey mac and cheese, you might love it.

As opposed to people that are angry.

Yeah, they're mad at you for not making macaroni and cheese that they

It's just like, it doesn't even need to be A' very like, uh, refined critique.

You can be like, dude, it made me wanna vomit, but just right at the top or at

But that doesn't mean everybody will, like, I'm not trying to tell you not to

I'm just telling you that 'I thought it was gross.

Do you know what 'I mean?

Like

Yes.

compliment sandwich 'I think every negative review

Ah, all about

then I'm with you.

And then 'I trust you.

You know 'I trust you.

'I Trust that it wasn't your taste.

And maybe it won't be mine, but maybe it will.

And 'I love that.

I'm gonna read the review and together with the Mac Mart sisters, we will break it

It's A', very regal process that we call.

Assess, That, Kvetch.

Mac Mart Sisters, let's buckle into our food trucks and

Review, That, Review.

Okay, so today 'I have brought in A' review that I'm pretty

We've never used this on the show before, Trey it is goodness.com, which

So like if you have something good or bad to say about A' Nestle product, you can go to

So I'm gonna be reading A' one star review for.

Lean cuisine, Vermont, white cheddar, mac and cheese.

Oh no.

This is not your kids' macaroni and cheese.

Ha ha.

Our organic cava tapi pasta Donn.

Don't know what that is.

Maybe you guys know.

Swiveling.

Okay, it's

complimented.

A', blink of the eye, they both went,

We're both like, let's kinda A'

that?

Okay.

It's complimented with A' rich Vermont White cheddar cheese sauce one fork fill will

Feed your phenomenal with Vermont white cheddar, mac and cheese from Ling cuisine.

Okay.

Paige.

Marty, we don't know anything about Ling cuisine, do we?

Um, yeah, 'I actually, 'I mean not about the company, but like,

No, I'm, I'm being, I'm joking.

Like we've

' Mac Mart Sisters: I.

We lived on cuisines.

we leaned like, like when PJ and 'I first met, we were

That's

we were also Onlin Cuisines.

Honestly, this is the protein variety and the ingredients were much cleaner than 'I thought.

'I, 'I think that Link Cuisine has really like, Gotten back to the basics because it

So that 'I was

That's probably why it's gross.

maybe.

Well, it is.

It's lean cuisine.

It's sort of like the opposite of Mac Mart.

All right, so this review was written by Lizzie 2, 2, 4.

As 'I mentioned, it is A' one star review.

The subject is ruined by broccoli.

was written two years ago.

used to buy this all the time until 'I couldn't find it anymore.

'I.

Ironically, anything 'I take A' liking to suddenly disappears off the shelves and either never

Whoever decided broccoli.

Was A' good?

Add-on.

Obviously hates everyone but themselves words cannot explain how

Microwave broccoli is the absolute worst and it consumes everything.

It is served with, including this nice and sweet mac and cheese.

am super disappointed that my all time favorite Mac has been ruined by the addition of broccoli.

If you wanted broccoli, just add it yourself.

'I.

Don't recommend people add panko breadcrumbs and bacon bits to replicate Longhorn, mac and cheese.

'I added myself.

The best thing is when it comes plain and you get to add whatever you want to it.

'I don't buy TV dinners to take away from it.

It already came with just barely enough pasta.

Now that they're broccoli, there's even less pasta and it all, it's like broccoli X.

No, 'I do not.

Recommend this product.

Thank you, Karen.

Lizzie.

A'.

Beautiful reading.

ChelseyBD.

Oh, thank you.

Wait, did they say x?

No 'I.

Just read it that way cuz it was like at the bottom you could X off like 'I.

You know, 'I recommend or 'I don't recommend, but it like felt like it went with A'

Oh, 'I.

Thought she was looking A'.

Okay.

Yeah, like an.

'I do.

Oh, no, no.

It was like an X, like 'I checked that one.

'I, like it

'I do not

Wait, will you read the title of this product one more time?

Does it say Broccoli Link Cuisine, Vermont Cheddar.

Very good question.

Trey.

Very astute.

No, it's protein kick.

Vermont, white cheddar, mac and cheese.

Does not say

'I would feel like it would be fiber if it were broccoli.

Like if we're talking protein like 'I.

Need some chicken there,

Well, it sounds like this is predominantly broccoli

'I.

Mean 'I.

Guess there's an image.

There's no, there is an image and the image does not contain broccoli.

Wait, hold on.

Hold on.

I'm about to be on her side.

Hold on.

Did she buy A' product that didn't mention it or show A' picture of it?

Like did she open up A'?

she is.

What Lizzie would like us to understand is that they have bought this product for years.

They have an intimate relationship with it.

They add their own Panko, they add their own bacon.

Right.

They, they have A' system by which they eat this product, and then they all of

That's 'I mean.

That's, that's, that's on Lean Cuisine.

Right.

Wait, 'I have A' question.

Have you guys ever altered any of your recipes in the time that you've been preparing?

Yeah, but we're usually fairly open about it.

We stay within the substitution realm, like, yeah, oh, they're out of mozzarella this week.

Let's pick another mild cheese.

Yeah.

Like especially during Covid, we, we had to kind of work with anything, what was available,

We need cover our, yeah.

Right.

So this was written during Covid 'I.

This was written two years ago.

So sort of at the height of Covid Donn.

Don't know if that had anything to do with it.

Was there like A', lack of pasta at one point?

Well, it's lean cuisine, don't you think?

In order to be like lower on the calories, it has to be A', smaller serving.

That was like what 'I was

'I think that what Lizzie's saying is like, it was

And now we had A' broccoli and now there's like two noodles and A' broccoli.

Like are they trying to bulk it up?

'I, just don't understand the actual concept.

Did she buy A' box of bro, like chicken, like broccoli Alfredo,

'I.

Well that is A'.

Very good note.

like this one?

We go to the store.

'I, grab A' Lean Cuisine out of the taste, and it's just A' cap with olive oil.

'I get home, 'I open it.

There's meatball, no shrimps,

Right.

That's what it sounds like.

Why is it shred?

Yeah.

Nothing making sense here.

It's so 'I.

Don't truly understand to the heart.

Lizzie's A' review might.

Oh,

Yeah.

Nope.

But 'I Hear that as

share my screen with you guys.

Can you see my screen?

So this is the product that Lizzie wrote the review under.

Oh, come on.

What Broccoli just showed up in

Yeah, that's A' glaring

This is what Lizzie is claiming.

The pj, it says this meatless dish is delicious, deliciously

Broccoli is not measured.

Ones here,

No, nowhere and not

in the picture

there's no green even in the marketing or branding.

So here's my difference with Lizzie is 'I would've gone on and left A' review to Lean

Yeah.

but that's what Lizzie's doing.

Just to be clear, because this is goodness.

Lean Cuisine is A' Nestle

product.

it.

'I would be interested to know if she picked up A' Different box and, and cooked like A' different.

There's, listen, there's Weight Watchers, there's Healthy Choice.

There's Lin Cuisine, there's Lin Cuisine Protein Plus there's, there's just cuisine like 'I.

Think they just recently took away The Lean.

The Lean, yeah.

There's like all these different things out and I'm like, you might

Yeah, I'm, I'm.

So that goes to the like truthful, shady, 'I guess or like, do we trust this person,

so,

put 'I would've also covered my ass as the the reviewer and

Yes.

Yes, thank you.

Yes.

'I was gonna say that too.

'I 'I.

Wish there was A' photo 'I.

Want to see how little noodles there are?

How many pieces of broccoli wait, 'I have A'?

Little question here about Lizzie.

So Lizzie goes on.

Onto this whole thing about just adding things yourself.

To me, 'I feel the opposite.

'I don't want to have to purchase fresh broccoli.

'I don't wanna have to buy bacon.

Cook it, chop it up.

'I don't want to have A' box of Panko crust, like 'I want to buy the thing and heat it.

Yeah, 'I.

So that was surprising to me.

But 'I cannot get over how It seems like there was no understanding that there would

broccoli that has to be jarring.

So my question to you guys, cuz 'I did, after 'I found this review, 'I went and 'I looked

Can you talk about that?

yes.

It is very intentional.

It's because broccoli smells like A' giant fart.

Yes.

We cook it in our restaurant of which we did for the last year and A'

You have to see how Marty cooked.

This broccoli got A' stalk of broccoli, A' raw stalk.

Right before, right after she packed the Mac, right before she litted it and put it out.

You'd see your dunking water and hot water.

But here's the thing.

'I bury in Mac, 'I would bury it cause broccoli.

Listen, 'I love broccoli.

'I.

'I could eat literally like A', brut of broccoli.

Like I'm good.

Yeah.

With garlic and olive oil and butter, but, but

Yeah.

Wasn't prepared appropriately.

yeah.

But the thing is, is it's not, we used to have A', Brock and cheese, please.

That was the bowl.

Brock and cheese please.

A'.

Really delicious broccoli cheddar thing.

But at the end of the day, you actually opened my eyes to A'.

Most every time we would cook it for the school, whether we cooked it diligently or or A'.

Really quick way 'I like to do it smells like A' fart.

Your restaurants gonna smell like someone's butt hole.

'I.

Right.

My entire house smells like A' fart.

It does.

Yeah.

Wait, ChelseyBD, remember at the beginning of this, you read the ingredients?

It did not say broccoli.

Oh, that's right.

that's why 'I thinking she didn't put up the right box.

That's what I'm wondering too,

This is on Wednesday my sister's.

Yeah.

They're

now we need A' address.

We need to send her A' fruit basket with no problem.

with no

No broccoli.

cheese, fruit basket.

And she is everything on the side.

Do we think that Lizzie's one of those people that when they like get dishes, like

That would be like, whoa, it could infiltrate, you know?

don't understand those people.

'I think all foods should be eaten together.

And put Better yet, put it in A' bowl and mix it up.

Layer it.

have to mix everything.

Yes, me too.

'I like, well, 'I like to mix it so that 'I have like the crunch and the bite.

The thi 'I need the all the

'I need every flavor.

Yes.

The best example of that is like Thanksgiving dinner.

You cannot take A' bite of one thing without everything else on that dinner on that plate.

Yeah.

'I wonder what Lizzie says about Thanksgiving dinner.

The stuffing cannot touch the cranberry sauce or else it tastes like cranberry.

mean the value here for me, 'I feel like is if you're gonna spell out the ingredients

So I'm really sitting on either, Lizzie has picked up the wrong box because there's 800

There were A' couple mistakes in there.

'I really think Lizzie got ahead of herself.

Uh, you know, she was very emotional and so, and she almost, you know, stuck the landing.

But in the end there, she, she did have A', couple grammatical errors, little words here and there.

She got herself all kerfuffle, maybe like an A' minus.

Yes.

The only shady factor for me was this.

There was A', lot of real estate spent on Lizzie explaining the history of their life.

When they fall in love with something, it always disappears.

And here 'I Am yet again, lean

for bringing that up.

It's so much

It's like A' slip, but like she.

Yes.

Yes,

Exactly.

I'm so thank you so much for bringing that up.

Trey, 'I forgot to talk about that.

Like 'I love when reviewers give us A' little like peek into their personal life.

So what do we think about Lizzie based on the fact that this is their philosophy of life?

'I.

Think Lizzy has A' lot more going on and that's probably why she took it

me too.

Yeah.

Lizzy couldn't leave her house to see her shrink and so decided to look inward.

Yeah.

And by doing so, she took it out on dinner.

Mm-hmm.

right.

'I agree.

Yeah.

'I know someone once that wrote A' review, 'I, think it was actually to

This is years ago about their box of cookies, how much they learned.

They've been, no, ed, ed told me this years ago about how much they love

And then the last box was just subpar cookies of the same, like we're talking like warriors.

Okay.

Yeah.

Wrote that in.

They've been sending him Oreos all the time.

So I'm kind of hoping that every time Lizzie gets back to her apartment by herself

Maybe.

A' broccoli though?

Oh my God.

Maybe Lizzie has like an ulterior motive and

Oh.

trying to get Freeling cuisine.

Smart.

That is

Well, all of that Aita adds to the humor, entertainment of the review for me.

Okay, so finally, here we go.

So like there's confusion here about was the product misleading or was Lizzie confused?

What?

What do we think the impact of this review is for the product?

Is there A' deal breaking moment for you or not?

'I, don't listen to anybody.

Yeah.

'I don't understand.

'I.

Don't listen to anybody because things that 'I find truly delicious.

'I already know as I'm making it, that it's gonna gross someone else out.

Like 'I wanna take potato chips, sit on my couch and dip 'em in ketchup.

Some people hear that and they're like, what?

And I'm like, chip, which is basically A' cold french fry, right?

So,

right.

That's

true.

catch.

But like, so if 'I write A' review about how amazing it is,

Right?

why, why Listen to me.

Who am 'I, like who is anybody?

'I, don't 'I, don't shit about your opinion unless 'I love you and I'm coming to you

Fair

Is there any part of you that feels like I'm impacted in the

Maybe they're just gonna switch A' recipe on me and pull A' like wool over my eyes

Are

gonna be.

skin, milk and mac and cheese, 'I, 'I thought like and water, which

A'.

Yeah.

'I thought that 'I was just like keeping that.

Yeah.

Liz served its purpose in A' place and time in our lives.

Absolutely.

But now that we're adults that can make decisions for ourselves, like Li Cuisine

It was like in the era of the herbal essence, like, oh, like, you

Oh yeah, the orgasm

nobody wanted to watch with their parents.

Like you were leaving the room when A' sh commercial was on either way.

It was in the same era when the girls were in their towels and they were in, and they

Chicken.

Three crackers.

Mm-hmm Four people.

One sig, 10 A' glasses, A'.

And then the girl's like and 'I had chicken rico laced with roasted vegetables and

You had plastic chicken cuisine, you had plastic bag sauce.

And then, and then what was so funny about those commercials is the person

Like, whoa, like ju, like all like judgy, like, ooh, okay.

Like with your chicken piccata.

Freedom in the frozen aisle.

Yes, yes.

Freedom in the, oh my God.

All right.

Well, 'I, think we've given Lizzie A' fair shake.

Do we think we're ready to crown Lizzie?

'I could Crown

Lizzie.

All right,

Okay.

So ChelseyBD and Marty and PJ and 'I all have our own set of zero to five crown cards.

In an effort to be fair and not influenced by one another, we will

The Queens are tabul.

Waiting,

Total Score.

'I might giving Lizzie A' five.

You are making

Oh.

Review.

Queen.

Whoa.

Okay.

Is what keeps us laughing technically.

'I originally gave her zero.

'I,

Okay.

she should not have access to the internet.

She learned how to text message.

She's still looking for T nine.

Where are you living?

However, the fact that somebody 'I find it truly hilarious how some people have an

She was there.

She cooked that.

She ate it.

And then instead of like her being like, right 'I got A' shower, 'I

What am 'I?

Okay.

She was like, well now that I'm done, where's.

like 'I.

Thank God sometimes for people like Lizzie, cuz 'I get to be like, wow, 'I was like

And like who gives A' shit?

Yeah.

Like look at Lizzie like she's losing her mind right now.

And an entire like corporation that doesn't care.

They don't care about Lizzie.

That's why Lizzie's review is still up next to the wrong product.

Right.

exactly.

Lizzie really cares about her review, and she would say to you today

So we need the Lizzies of the world because they keep the normal people like us.

That's with air quotes, laughing.

'I.

Love that 'I.

Love that you're the Paula of the group and 'I think that we're giving Lizzie

Maybe it's the fact that like you have, you're A' mom and you're busy

Every once in A', while 'I need to hear from Lizzie.

So 'I respect that.

Five.

Marty, why did you, why did you go with two crowns?

she's called the nice sister nowadays.

Exactly.

full 'I.

First of all, 'I, think it's ridiculous.

'I.

'I.

Wish 'I had enough time to write A' Ridiculous.

First of all, 'I Wish 'I had enough time to make A' Lean Cuisine.

Now you have time to make A' Lean Cuisine.

Sit down and eat it and then write A' novel on why someone else shouldn't eat the wrong box 'I 'I.

My, everything in my life nowadays comes down to time, and I'm the

And yet 'I have so much.

It's A' weird.

It's A' very weird.

It is, yeah.

It is.

A' weird and it sometimes feels false and it sometimes feels true, but my thing is,

'I asked her to watch A' scary movie with me A' couple months ago.

'I was like, dude, it was so good.

You're gonna love it.

She turned to me without missing A' beat and she's like, 'I don't have time to be scared.

'I.

Get that.

Marty.

I'm with you.

'I, don't 'I die to be scared.

'I can't be derailed by this movie.

do you know?

How many emotions it takes to pull myself

kidding?

'I got enough cortisol going through my veins at all times.

'I don't need that.

'I?

Am already scared enough of this

Yes, I'm scared enough of

down to it.

Fair enough.

Well, I'm with you Marty and Trey is with you, PJ, on that, on that front.

'I.

Trey, you went with one and A' half crowns.

'I went with two crowns.

Why did you do one and A' half,

Literally for what both of y'all have just said.

Like to me, 'I think the only points go to the humor.

'I.

'I was entertained.

'I think Lizzie is very funny.

'I would be curious to hear their takes on other things, but 'I think either Lizzie

And A' great conversation.

So 'I said one and A', half ChelseyBD.

Why did you say two?

Very similar reasons.

'I mean, like 'I said, 'I.

You know, you, we read so many reviews and so many are just like dulls doorknobs.

So to have anyone that has any kind of personality, 'I gotta give like

But 'I agree with what everyone's saying.

'I think it's possible that Lizzie wrote this review under the wrong category.

And so 'I couldn't really give them more than that.

They also weren't perfect in spelling and they had A'.

Lot of.

Personal issues going on that 'I think were outside of the realm of the Lean

So that

off before she even opened the box.

exactly, yes.

So that was why 'I went with two crowns

Funny review.

ChelseyBD.

Good.

Find

God we had you to know what, what was the kind of pasta called?

A'.

Co.

See, look at the way she says it with such confidence.

Oh, our wrist sticks.

Wanna see our wrist sticks?

Do you have

Oh yeah, that's right.

You told me about your wrist sticks.

So they have A' macaroni, like just like one macaroni on their their wrist.

But it does kinda look like A'

Oh, it does.

Look at that.

But you know, 'I.

There is A' reply.

There's more.

There actually is A' reply, which means that Nestle did take the time to get back

It is responded by A' Ling cuisine brand ambassador.

We haven't added broccoli to this meal, so we'd like to learn more.

an email from us soon.

Here's what happened.

We are like, one year into Covid is off ast.

She's ever leaving home and she's A' stone eating that mac cheese broccoli in it.

Oh my God.

Pj, does that change your opinion at all?

Or is, is, uh, Lizzie still A'?

Review?

Queen,

'I gotta give the review.

She needs A' guys.

Yeah.

She needs A' win.

You're right.

You're, you're right.

She does need A' win.

You're right pj.

You might be breaking generations dress generation long cycles here by making Lizzie A'.

Review.

Queen.

What?

What?

A'.

Mensch.

She probably just left it under the wrong product, right?

A'.

Hundred percent.

yeah.

Lindsey

'I.

Think 'I liked the high theory 'I.

Think that that could actually be accurate,

Like the majority of things lately.

Yeah.

But also 'I.

Think some poor intern was told to reply

' Trey Gerrald: I know.

Right.

Oh my God.

That's

Am 'I moving up like I'm done getting salad.

All right.

We did not add product.

But 'I, they're like, but we're dying to know more.

Right.

They're like, if that happened,

the company getting A' little snark in there

A'.

Little snark, but it's the right level of

snark.

It's like, email us please.

Wow.

That's like quite disturbing.

If somehow in the factory such A' error was

made it into A' Bowl.

we need to know, did you save the serial number?

We might have to bring back the whole batch.

Oh my goodness.

Well, that was so fun.

Thank you for indulging us in being review

That was so fun.

Was fun.

Let's take A' really quick break, and then when we come

Nice segue.

Try.

Love it.

B r b.

Hold your crown.

We'll be right back.

It's game time in today's game made lovingly by ChelseyBD as

Can you.

Can you make that whack Mac slap?

Okay.

She like knew right away.

With Here's the deal.

With 30 seconds on the clock, PJ and Marty will take turns reinventing

If they successfully convince the Queens that their version of the Whack

If their version of the Mac still sounds whack, they will earn no points for the round

So the player with the most points wins the game.

Mario, pj, are you ready to make that whack Mac

Slap.

'I.

Think so.

Yeah.

I've never felt

Okay.

You'll be great.

everything that we do at home with Lean Cuisines already.

Go

Okay, great.

Exactly, exactly.

All right.

All right.

So Marty, we're first.

You ready?

Yes.

Okay.

So.

'I have prepared for you.

PB and J Mac and Cheese.

Three,, Two,, One,, GO!.

So this is actually something that's being sold right now.

I've been told about this.

They have this at Disney World.

'I actually don't know how we can use it, but gosh, this is terrible.

'I.

If anything, maybe add Brie to it, then we're kind of tying in the fruit flavors.

Well, the only way I'm thinking is you have to save it.

If you add BRI or maybe like A' creamy, something to that it, you're

That thing looks gross.

'I know.

well this is A' softball.

It's gonna get grosser, so prepare to get more creative.

All right.

Try.

Are we voting?

Slaps.

You think it's It's still whack.

It's maybe.

Brie sounds good.

All right.

'I did.

'I wanted to give you an A' for effort, but 'I just feel like you're gonna do better as you like

It's okay.

game.

Okay, so Marty gets one point

Okay, great.

Paige, this is us

'I have prepared for you.

Mac Shake.

So how can you make this whack Mac slap?

Three,, Two,, One,, GO!.

So if 'I had A'.

Yeah.

'I would drink it.

No, 'I wouldn't.

Okay, so here's what 'I would do.

'I would actually, what would 'I do with A' Mac when you tell me 'I down 'I blender.

Oh, sauce, my God.

Millions.

You guys go through games.

'I would put it all in A' blender, make it cheesy sauce, and then pour it over noodles.

Ooh.

It would just be sweet.

Three, two.

All right.

'I.

Think that that's A', that that's pretty good slaps way to make lemonade, add A' lemons.

That was really good.

So that was A'.

Two points for pj.

Alright, this is now Marty's next

No redemption.

okay, so Marty,

'I have prepared for you.

A', beet, carrot, and ginger, mac and cheese,

Three,, Two,, One,, GO!.

So I'm gonna just, I'm gonna go to the blender for A', lot of

So 'I would take the beets, the carrot, the gingers.

I'm already kinda like asiany, balsamic, olive, oily.

I'd make some sort of sauce.

I'd then throw in.

Loads of good cheeses, melting down some heavy whipping cream, and then 'I throw it over.

Some good

2, 1.

That's smart.

still sounds so gross.

I'm saying A' slap.

saying slaps.

Here we go.

prepared for you.

Spam sushi Mac.

Three,, Two,, One,, GO!.

Okay, so 'I would first of all take off that seaweed and 'I, chop

Mm.

'I would take all the mac and cheese, put it in A' bowl, put lots of different

Ooh.

And then I'd sprinkle some parsley weed on it, parsley weed, which is

Three, two.

'I.

Think that

'I, like 'I, like how creative that was.

I'm gonna say slaps

That was good.

Need like A' few to get into it.

Yeah.

'I also feeling like PJ's, getting the easier ones.

Oh my.

And 'I Love one.

Oh really?

Okay, well, there's A' bonus round if you wanna engage

We're only one.

We're only one point behind Marty,

And you're only one point behind at this point.

Okay, here we go.

Marty

'I have prepared for you.

Mac and cheese, oat oatmeal.

Three,, Two,, One,, GO!.

Oh my Lord.

'I, you know what 'I would do?

'I would make some sort of grit type thing outta this.

'I got A' binder.

'I guess maybe.

But 'I think what 'I would do here is just make it A', savory, creamy grit thing.

Again, we're just gonna keep adding heavy whipping cream.

Yeah, A'.

Lot of nutty, salty cheeses.

Butter.

Butter.

Eventually.

And you know what?

We could even add bacon for like A' protein.

A'.

Little chewy, salty, fatty bite.

Eventually we're gonna get A' consistency of like A'.

two

yeah.

Oh, ooh.

Yeah,

'I.

Actually that actually, you made that sound good.

I'm saying

that slaps 'I.

Try that.

I'd eat that.

I'm not gonna lie.

probably.

What can be for dinner tonight?

All right, let's go.

We gotta keep our win page.

have prepared for you.

Pineapple, mac and cheese casserole.

Three,, Two,, One,, GO!.

So 'I have to be honest, this all doesn't actually

Mm-hmm.

However, um, 'I think this is where I'd probably add something salty like A',

Um, and 'I.

Think 'I would chop up A', bunch of ham, put it on top, put maybe like

Mm-hmm.

Breadcrumbs that have been pre fried and pop it in the oven.

Yeah.

Good to go.

Three, two.

I'm getting hungry.

I'm gonna say slaps too, the ham.

was really good.

Let me like, side note on what she just created.

She could also do like A', really great way on like pineapple pizza

Ooh.

That's what 'I was thinking when she was saying ham.

Exactly.

And 'I would like cut that up into squares.

'I would remold it with some ham, I'd bread it and I'd fry that shit.

And you'd have like mac and cheese, pineapple pizza, squares,

Yeah.

And especially if there was like A' nice cheese in the middle that was gonna give you that like,

ey, gooey.

gooey like mozzarella stick moment.

Oh, 'I.

Like that A' lot.

Okay.

'I have prepared for you.

Sun dried tomato, caper raisin, and parsley, mac and cheese.

Made Famous by Drake?

Is this famous by joy.

Yes, this is, this is Drake's.

There was A'.

It split the internet.

Two,, One,, GO!.

You just really need Italian pasta dish.

So we're gonna add like some tomatoes to like take out the mac and cheese factor

And you just need to make it like in A', some fresh tomatoes.

We're gonna add A', little sauce, maybe like A' little roasted chicken and A' little heavy cream,

Ooh,

be yummy.

Yeah.

That

how, that's, that's the only with all that

1.

It's the only way.

I'm gonna say slaps.

that.

That slaps.

All right.

Here we go.

Next round.

'I have prepared for you.

Blueberry, Mac, pj, can you make this slap?

Three,, Two,, One,, GO!.

'I.

Don't eat that.

Like that's the thing.

Like this already doesn't sound bad cause to me, 'I hear, 'I hear gel 'I hear gel right away.

So 'I think, knowing the way that we like to be super fat and like

'I probably add A' can of condensed milk, sweet condensed milk, which is just, you

Pop it in the oven, make A' custard.

Ooh.

Oh my God.

2,

'I like cream.

Slaps.

Ooh, 'I would never, that 'I want to eat.

Okay.

This is the last round.

have prepared for you.

S'mores Mac.

Three,, Two,, One,, GO!.

Oh yeah.

Um, doing the same thing.

I'm dumping it on A', big bowl.

I'm adding sugar so that I'm taking that cheese sauce from savory to sweet.

I'm probably adding A', little evaporated milk, A', little dense milk, some whipped cream.

And 'I am ooking it and I'm probably enjoying it.

'I have to be honest.

Spoon on your couch?

Yeah, spoon on my couch.

2, 1.

There's not much.

Yeah, there's not much you can do with some of these.

slaps.

Slaps.

Okay.

This is our last one, pj.

got this bill.

All right, here we

'I have prepared for you.

Cookies and cream.

Mac and cheese.

Two,, One,, GO!.

So 'I mean if you're giving me the dish that you're literally

Yeah.

I'm literally Donn.

Don't have to move between dinner and dessert.

I'm gonna devour the insides of what 'I see, and then slowly sit back

Nothing, nothing else needed here.

Maybe A' glass of milk.

Three, two.

Slaps of in ingenuity.

'I think I'm gonna say, I'm gonna say whack cuz 'I feel like it's just gross.

Donn don't wanna

Okay.

Okay.

Okay.

So what that means is we have A' bonus round where both of you guys are gonna have A'

So bonus round will start with Marty.

What are you gonna do?

To make this Mac whack, slap mac and cheese gelatin cake ring with

'I am pulling it out.

ChelseyBD.

3, 2, 2.

One go.

First of all, gelatin cake rang.

Can 'I see it?

Can you scroll down?

A', little 'I.

Think they poured gelatin on top of mac and cheese.

Yes.

Just forming into A' mold.

I'm feeding that to my worst enemy.

That's how I'm making it better.

I'm gonna watch someone who, 'I can't stand Mrs.

Trench, pull that shit and eat it.

Fall at A' time.

There's no way you couldn't pay me.

In the hooky.

In the hooky, the

3, 2, 1.

Okay, well that's fair.

We could end it at A' Tie.

Unless pj, you think that you can make A' case for how to make this whack Max Slap, this

Otherwise, we're leaving this as A' tie.

So

You gonna do

should 'I start?

Yeah.

try.

Here we go.

Three,, Two,, One,,

GO!.

gonna take all the ketchup off the top.

I'm gonna put that entire disgusting blob in one big pot.

I'm gonna melt it down until it's noodles and A' whole lot of liquid.

Drain the liquid, add cheese back in, and those Vienna sausages and put the ketchup back on once

my God.

Slap.

Gallagher

2, 1.

'I.

Mean

'I.

Kinda

'I.

Think it's A'.

Clear tie,

'I.

Think that slaps 'I mean, like the 'I 'I.

Know that PJ's on is my teammate.

Huh 'I do.

But 'I will say, lemme just point out that the idea of reducing it down then draining

But maintaining the integrity of that ketchup, which is from the original product.

'I.

Think if you were on like A' cooking show, like that would totally be valid And 'I think

March cheese mix.

'I.

Don't know.

'I.

Think pj.

That was pretty good.

'I.

Think PJ wins.

I'm sorry, Marty.

You know what 'I think that both of you were really strong players in this

The Mack Mart sisters honestly is so much better than 'I thought that

Clearly you've been doing this A' while.

Well, this has been so much fun, and if you're listening and you cannot wait to

Visit their written house or Bethlehem, PA locations, or hello, excuse me, blink blank.

Kiss.

Kiss.

You could open up your own Mac Mart franchise to do so.

Inquire at.

Mac Mart cart.com.

Now before we jump over to our Patreon, one final question.

What is one piece of advice you'd give on how to handle online haters?

Don't.

Don't.

Don't line them.

They're sad.

Yeah.

The internet is such A' sad place nowadays.

Give them A' hug in your heart instead.

mm

Or send them to Mac Mart so they can have some good food and get over it.

Yeah, yeah,

like that.

yeah.

Cut off their fucking fingers.

So they can't!

she.

Oh, she came out 'I.

Love it.

Hi, 'I.

A' A'.

Sense of humor, obviously.

All right, well we did it Queens.

That is another round on the Are You A' RQ Vienna.

Sausage finger chopped off.

Hearts hugging in the love world of mac and cheese with Oreos and gelatin Ferris

But never broccoli.

Thank you Mack Mart sisters for joining us today, listener Queens.

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can follow the Mac Mart sisters at the Mac Mart.

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On this week's after show Pod, we are gonna be diving A' little bit deeper with

Woo.

We will decide on the after show who's gonna go head to head with ChelseyBD in

So to find out what made the Mac Mart sisters say,

It's so stupid.

I'll, I'll let, let A' little tiny, little tiny.

This slide cause it's 2016, but if it was 2023 and we got this review,

'I.

'I.

Then become A' member of our Patreon over at Review That Review

In the meantime, you must remember

Ignore the haters.

Like the Mac Mart sisters said, you're A' Queen.

Jen, non-specific Queen.

Stay cheesy.

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Stay cheesy boy.

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'I have to say, Marty 'I thought 'I was throwing you A' lob

Because years ago, PJ and 'I were like 16 'I came to the house and you were the first

Yes, you did, and 'I did and it did.

Wait, wait, what?

'I.

You don't?

Yes, you did.

Yes you did.

Do you remember this peach?

'I.

Let's be fair.

ChelseyBD also thinks 'I wanna stole her camera

No.

Hey, you had to bring it up.

That was my mother.

That wasn't even

'I, even I've heard this story,

my back is burning.

So 'I just need to lay down A' minute.

Okay, go lay down and we're gonna hop on over to the after show.