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My name is Greg and boy, am I fuckin excited today.
The Buffs man and all of craft beer, the greatest in the world at what he does.
And that is squats and drink flex what's going on big sexy flexi.
Daddy's home baby Glad to be back.
I've been feeling like I'm missing Apparently I.
You know, daddy,
I feel like I've been gone for forever now and I only missed two weeks.
Is two weeks.
But in my heart a lifetime just a fucking life.
You're too kind. Too kind.
Well, I've got quite the view now that I can stare at Sexy Flexi the entire show.
Thank you all for joining.
The bromance is only getting grosser from here, so strap in.
We've got a lot to get to today.
So much drinking and beer research has gone on.
I have hit up a couple of events, have hung out with some beer, friends,
flaks over
there, has tried some interesting beers and apparently some neighbors as well.
Yes, super interesting beers.
We've got a voicemail from the homie Junior, your beer,
some breaking booze news and a whole lot more.
So let's just dig into things right now.
I'm thirsty AF As we record technically it's it's the holiday peak
behind the curtain and I haven't started drinking it so let's fix that.
I don't know what I'm doing. Just dancing like a weirdo.
I am drinking thanks to a good beer friend.
I'll talk about here in a second.
Ogo Pogo Brewing's Cactus Cat 8.5% has a very respectable
4.11 on a knee. Wow.
They say on a tap, triple dry, hopped hazy double IPA with strata
HBC five, eight, six and HBC 586.
Krio brewed with our dearest friends over at Kraft Coast Brewing Brewing
and the Can says the cactus cat is a legendary,
fearsome critter of the American Southwest,
generally described as a bobcat like creature covered in hair like thorns.
This creature is said to use its spine to slash
cacti, allowing juice to run from the plants.
Later at night, the creature returned to drink the now fermented juice
and then drunken creature is said to howl throughout the night.
My kind of cat, if I was going to have a cat
because I can't fucking stand cats but a drunken cat I'm all for
this is
was given to me by friend of the show Fontana Jim so thanks Fontana.
Jim And various.
I've never even heard of pogo pogo brewing before they're out in his hood
this on the nose.
I get so much tropical fruit, especially guava.
A lot of guava on the old schnoz.
I'm going to dig in and not do the tongue grabber justice.
All right.
So up front, that is your classic double hazy.
But man, that guava shine through.
It doesn't say there's any adjuncts in this,
but it fucking tastes like they added fruit to it.
Like in a good way.
Like they have nailed those juicy fruit flavors.
A lot of guava, a lot of orange almost has like that POG vibe
going down very smooth, not a ton of carbonation.
Nice haze to it.
They say it's a hazy.
It's it's actually hazy. It's definitely hazy.
Yeah yeah.
I'm in joint this is my first from yoga Pogo
and I am enjoying the shit out of this.
I would go back for more.
Well, first off, what an awesome brewery name.
Yeah, I like that. Right now it's like Montana.
Jim's been holding out on us, drinking all this awesome beer, right?
He's always the one calling in angry. I'm. Let's call him angry.
Like, where the fuck you been with this awesome beer.
Right?
You think you'd be happier getting all that good beer?
Get off of your asks.
Ask stop shopping at WinCo. Give me some more.
Go to. The WinCo.
Man. Give me some Kroger BOGO Stop going into WinCo.
Jesus.
No, you know, it's funny, we
we found out
Fontana Jim was going to be in our hood last week,
and so I said, Why don't you, Minister Naughty Pine,
we're going over for a little Friday night sesh.
They had a food truck there, one of our favorite musical artists
that that run through their names, Lindsay Frey.
And so he met us there with his wife.
And we had some beers, we had some food. It was a great time.
And he brought me these because I was supposed to trade him for some morning
watch and like the complete asshole that I am, I totally forgot to bring them.
So now I have to ship it to him and pay for shipping because I'm a dick.
So sorry about that.
But yeah, he brought me a couple of these ogo
pogos and one from Tony Hawk's brewery that I haven't tried yet, so.
Oh, no kidding. I didn't even know he had a brewery.
That's rather a man from Tenant Jim.
Just educating us, right, dude?
So anyways, good time hanging out with Jim.
Hopefully he makes his way out here a little more.
He comes out here to camp because we're not too far from like Malibu
and the beach and stuff.
So, okay, he'll head out there with his trailer and camp it up.
And so so people camp on the beach in California.
That's a real thing.
Oh, it's a real thing. I mean, you're not like, oh, okay.
Usually you're not on the sand itself.
You're like, you know, in a little lot
just off the sand, like, okay, zone some beaches you can camp in the sand.
Honestly, it kind of sucks. Camp in the sand gets and everywhere.
Yeah. No, it's fucking horrible. Yeah.
But he's got a, you know, his cool little camper trailer thing so
there's lots that are, you know, in the parking lot of the beach
that you can park in. Designated.
Right designated spaces.
So yeah, he came out, met us at Knotty Pine for a few beers,
and then he went and checked in at his camp spot.
So was a good time hanging out with Jim.
And thanks for the fucking killer beer.
I'm digging the shit out of this one.
What else has been going on, man?
So much so peddles and pints a couple of weeks ago had their emo night
and Brit from Naughty Pine and Monica from petals
did a collab black IPA that they released that night.
So good. I hope it stays on tap for a while.
Or at least hopefully they make more really good.
30 seconds to fallout or 30 romances.
Do I forget the cover band's name?
It was.
They were also at Emo Fest at Knotty Pine.
They played that night. They are so fucking good. Like, they just.
They'd rock the house every time.
It's nice to get out and see a little live music and that sort of thing.
So shout out to pedals and our friend Monica as well for
we're making a fucking kick ass beer and and having a fun night.
They were the owner of the place was a little concerned
their demo is usually a little older at that brewery and like
well I don't want to bring in like these bands.
I don't know if anybody's going to show up, but she's like,
I promise
if you bring in this band, people will show up
and the place was fucking jammed is not to do, but it was it was a good turnout.
So that's awesome for them to just bring in and all that,
that money and customer base.
And it was all turning customers now too.
Yeah, so.
That's just a huge thing. That's awesome to hear.
Yeah, it was great and as all people are,
but mostly people like in our age range, we were rocking our demo shit.
So is that demo they're looking for, right?
Yeah.
It was fun night.
They're talked about Fontana.
Jim Oh. Oh, my God, dude.
So Malibu Brewing.
I know. I've talked about them lately on the show.
They've been brewing beer for about a year now,
but they haven't had an official taproom, they've just had a production facility
and at a couple of local places you could find cans.
Well, they finally had their soft opening last week
and one of their co-owners, Ryan hit me up, was okay
because we met him at a beer festival and started talking.
He listens to the show, which is awesome.
Hi, Ryan. Hi, Ryan. First question, what's wrong with you?
But also thanks for listening.
He's super cool guy
when we're at the festival like he's like here have all my beer
and was telling me about it and they're great.
He even had like a rosé inspired beer, which normally I can't I remember you.
I remember you telling the story because that's exactly what you said.
Yeah. Normally can't stand it.
It was like I would actually drink it.
So that's that's a high praise for a rosé beer for me.
Anyways, invited us over to this soft opening at their taproom in Malibu.
I mean, it's like 100 feet from the beach.
It's a it's a great location.
And they have food, beer, everything.
They have hired quite an amazing chef.
The food was fucking amazing.
We ordered these, like Chito Peppers, and it came with, like, this weird, weird.
Not the right turn, but it came with, like,
this grilled onions and pepper salad underneath.
And some, like Indian fry bread, whole
li shit best Chicago pepper thing I've ever had.
I got some wings we were heavily encouraged to order some dessert.
So like I got they had,
they had boozy ice cream.
So, you know, I ordered that and the wife ordered shit,
the name is escaping me, but they're like little mini fry breads
and it's got honey on it and some strawberries and whipped cream.
Anyways, Chef, cause it was so fucking good.
The food was amazing.
It's not just like a brewery with, like, your typical
here's your pizza in your burger now fuck off.
It's like they focused on that food.
It is so, so good.
Beer was great. They had a Schwartz beer on tap.
I always bonus points for me if you got a dark lager going
had a few of there we did have do and I think a flight and a few pints.
I took home a four pack or a six pack of their hazy IPA.
The wife took home a six pack of their lager.
So, you know, the beer doesn't suck when you're buying it to go home.
So good times.
I mean, the food kind of sounds like a place
that you're going to go to Malibu and to Malibu brewing.
It's like that's what you're going to get. Yeah.
So it sounds like they totally nailed it.
It's like a brewery for a Barbie or something, and.
There are a.
Lot of pink Corvettes in the parking lot.
It was crazy
anyways.
But yeah, food was like, even if you're not super into beer,
go and have the fucking food, man.
It is it is worth the trip out there. It's a great little spot.
We sat outside to have a really cool patio with a bunch of open space.
Anyways, I feel like now it sounds like I'm being paid to talk about them.
I swear I'm not.
We're also working on getting him and the brew crew on the show as well.
The big hold up is me because I'm trying to figure out
the end of summer plans. But. But we're going. To get going.
I could just tell how excited you are with how fast you are talking about it.
That's all you can tell when when Greg gets. Excited is yeah.
That or the cocaine one of the other. So yeah.
No, it's really good. Good.
It's a good combo. Yeah.
I feel great. You've done great.
I should buy a boat.
But you know what part of my excitement is like?
A lot of times
you walk to a brand new taproom and it's like, I'll be back in six months.
You guys got some stuff out, and this is not right.
Sometimes it's real rough trip. Mm.
Quite the opposite here.
So I'll stop gushing, but really good stuff over email the brewing the open
if you're listening to this yesterday you're just doing a drop on Wednesday open
Tuesday the 6th of September.
So if you're in the area,
head out to Malibu because you know, it's hot as balls here right now.
You might as well get near the beach so you could have
a little break from the insane heat we're having right now.
That's pretty much I have a trip.
I'll talk about it next week.
I don't want to spend too much time yammering on about about me.
But quick mention, watch the Taylor Hawkins tribute concert with the Foo
Fighters and a bajillion special guests over the weekend
here of the Foo Fighters at all or just music in general?
That was a badass show.
Some major rock royalty came through.
I think it would have been like five or 6 hours they list.
Yeah, yeah. It was so good.
I totally didn't cry when his son came up and drummed my hero and.
Look.
Okay, it's dusty and you're cutting onions.
Yeah.
I didn't cry, I promise.
Yeah. Yeah. You know, fields. Our fields, man.
At so many fields watching that, we got shattered.
We were drinking mimosas starting at 830 Pacific Time.
So we were drinking mimosas all fucking day watching the concert.
So a lot a lot of fields coming through
in your drinking all day and people died in that kind of thing.
So anyways,
enough about me, flex.
What's going on with you?
We haven't talked in like three weeks.
Oh, man.
If we don't talk between shows. Yeah, right.
I'm like, you know what?
No, no, no. Fucking save it, man. Fucking save it.
We act like we're not actually friends.
So, you know the breaking news, right?
Flex tries Bud Light next and with.
Flexible show.
Don't believe that
so I went to this get together at Buddy's house
and he you know blossom all right pretty okay craft beers
and I go in one of the coolers and there's Bud Light next.
So then I look at the table,
I see one of my good friends drinking a Bud Light next.
And I'm like, How are you doing that?
I've heard such horrible things about them.
And he puts it in the terms of it's like
alcoholic seltzer or but beer flavored.
I mean, that doesn't sound attractive yet.
No, it doesn't. You should have seen my face.
It was just kind of like I got that, like, mangled, disgusted look.
Like,
first of all, seltzers are horrible, let alone a beer flavored seltzer.
I wouldn't even want that Yankee candle bullshit in my mouth. Right.
But you know what else is beer flavored?
Exact beer.
Exactly. Beer. So
his wife made some mention of it
where it was almost like refreshing.
And again, I kind of got that mangled, disgusting,
looked like it doesn't sound refreshing.
So I did take a sip of it because they,
you know, they didn't make me, but they kept it.
Just try it really encouraged. Exactly.
And so I took a sip of it and it tasted like
tasting like water
with like if you took like
like an eyedropper. Yeah.
And put like three drops of beer in there,
that's to a t exactly what Bud Light makes taste like.
Talk about refreshing.
So it's like, could you drink it?
You could, right?
But at what cost?
Yeah, I mean, come on.
You know, it's like 4% maybe. I think.
Yeah, it's 4%, 80 calories and zero carbs.
I just looked it up.
Yeah.
So it's, I mean it's not worth it isn't it.
The same thing.
Isn't like Michelob Ultra also like 4%
and 80 calories and like low carb, not like that.
95, 96.
But like the same general area. Right, but same.
But I'll tell you what
my father in law drinks Michelob Ultra like every single day.
So I've I've had quite I've had quite a few, you know,
since I've been with my wife almost 13 years now.
And there's like an infinite more amount of flavor in a michelob Ultra.
Well, that's why I'm.
In a bad light. Next.
Yeah, remember those?
Just go with the Michelob Ultra.
Yeah.
So the fact that people buy these and support, this is
what makes you want to rip my eyes out of my head.
Do you think it's like a brand loyalty thing?
Like they they like the idea of Michelob Ultra,
but they're like Budweiser fans or some weird shit like that.
I want to say no, but I mean, you might be right,
but it's like when I, you know, when I was a dumb idiot
kid and I drink Bud Light and they dropped the Bud Light platinum.
Everybody remembers about platinum had.
A platinum that the.
Super sick blue glass bottle is a cool bar but
but it was a 6% Bud Light, right?
Right.
So if you're going to buy a bud, if you're going to buy a Bud Light,
why are you going to drink to 4%
when you can get the platinum and get just completely shitter?
Yeah, I mean, never mind the aftertaste.
Let's, let's, we're trying to get word here.
Exactly, exactly.
That wasn't the what we were looking at there.
He was looking at getting plastered and you know, probably vomiting later.
And oh, every time I drink platinum. Yeah.
Yeah.
But you know, you have a good night out of it.
So I don't know the fact that people you know.
Well, yeah.
No, I must, you. Know, I feel.
Yeah. Please cleanse the palate with the beer you're drinking.
Over there.
And the.
Taste. In.
Yeah. Drink.
Anything else?
Uh, good. Yeah.
So I had a couple of buddies over. Uh huh.
About a week ago.
We did a little, little small can share because I got super sugared
the night before at a Pink Floyd cover band
concert I'm in, so it was amazing.
There's nothing like being, like, 30 years old and dancing with all these,
like, 65 year olds because, you know, they're there for the music
because they were there when Pink Floyd was actually around.
It's nice going out with cover bands
because you're always the youngest one in the room.
Yeah, I mean, they were phenomenal.
They were like,
they've been around for like 20 years and I think they tour mostly the Midwest.
So I'm not mistaken, but I mean, they fucking rocked it.
So anyway, we had a little mini cans here the following night
with Duke of Drinkability. Nice best.
That's the name of the gram and our friend Josh,
who I can't remember his IG handles all weird, but
he Josh big
fruited sour guy huge fruited sour guy
450 north he brings over
oh to 450 north cans Nice one with the Swedish fish inspired sour
so that one had Lincoln, Barry and Cherry okay
so don't even ask me what a link and Mary is about to.
It's actually a, uh, cranberry lake type berry.
Okay?
And it grows like half an evergreen plant or something like that.
Whatever you say.
I believe. So. Yeah. So nailed it.
We actually looked it up. Okay.
And he brought over a, I want to say
a BlackBerry pie sour.
So the beers were good.
The point is it exactly about how the beers tasted.
Okay, but is I disposed of the cans in my recycle bin in the garage.
Right.
And so this was honorable adult does as one responsible does.
So this was on a Friday night and our recycle pickup is Thursdays.
So mind you, now they're in my garage for an entire week,
a week later, we have all of
we have all of these fruit flies
started popping up in the house
and I'm like, where the hell are these coming from?
We haven't had fruit in the house for like over a week.
Where is something rotting?
What is going on?
And I went to dump this small recycling bin.
I have that just inside my door that leads from the house to the garage.
And I go to pour that in the big recycling bin.
And there's all this leaky juice that comes out.
And I'm thinking to myself,
there can't be alcohol in this beer, right?
It's just got to be straight fruit juice because.
When it kills the.
Flies, it would kill the flies, right?
So it wouldn't lead them and produce more.
Right. My point is, for 15 so hours,
they may be juicy and delicious,
but you are not getting any bang from them.
I mean, there was a whole for 50 great like a year ago where they found.
Yeah. The AB gaydar. Yeah.
There was no alcohol or extremely low alcohol and
and I don't get here's the other thing.
Yeast, love fruit.
I don't know what the fuck their problem is over there.
Yeah I it doesn't make sense at all. Yeah.
Whatever they're doing, whatever they're putting out there, it's
like they're just taking the fruit puree and putting it straight into the cam.
Mm hmm.
Sounds delicious.
Yeah. So.
And it actually says XXL slushie on the can.
It's because you're getting an actually slushy.
At least you're healthy and you had some fruit intake and.
Yeah, it was, you know, my blood sugar, you know, raised a little bit.
So I was, you know, I was it was feeling a little low, so I was helpful.
But vitamin C coming in strong.
Yeah. Yeah.
So that helped.
But we're still trying to get rid of these damn fruit flies.
They're still said, Yeah, you know what I'm doing?
I'm actually leaving out Beta traps
for them, like actual beer in taster glasses.
And then every morning I'll wake up and then they'll be like drunk to death,
fruit flies. Oh, that's hilarious. Oh, yeah.
So they're attracted to it.
Then they just die because it has actual alcohol and.
Because it actually has alcohol in it, correct?
Yeah. I mean. That's science.
That proves it, right there that you're you're.
Good 100%. Yeah.
If you're leaving out beer to kill them and the beer is killing them.
But the 450 north was not killing them.
Dude, that's crazy.
And his crazy there goes are sponsorship opportunity for 50 north.
Oh shut up.
That's fine.
I'll tell you what, when distributors in your own state
don't want to carry your shit.
Yeah, you know that says something. Yeah, I.
Think that says everything you need to know.
Oh, well, can't wait to give me some of those hype cans
so I can not get drunk.
Like, when you're doing, like, uh, what are they doing November?
Like, oh, no. Dry January.
November is the mustache thing for dry January.
You guys can drink some for 59.
Drink all the for 15 hours slash beer.
You'll be fine. You won't be breaking the rules.
All right.
Before we get to choose voice mail, speaking of fruity beers, let's find out
what Fox is drinking over there.
All right, so tonight I am drinking desert
noises naturally from Eagle Park Brewing.
Well, there's there's over at my sister in law's house
earlier today for the Labor Day, get together and her husband had some beer
that he just needed to get rid of because he hasn't been drinking
much of like the fruited stuff lately.
Oh well he was going to have.
Right, you know, and I'm just like a beard garbage disposal so
and people don't want shit. They're just they just give it to me.
So this is a fruit.
It goes to a sour ale with prickly pear, tangerine and sea salt. Hmm.
There's no description.
Just a super crisp 5% light crusher.
It has, like, a nice, bright, pinkish orange.
I don't even know what color you want to call that.
I think pinkish orange. Nailed it.
Kind of looks like that sunset.
Oh, my gosh. It's gorgeous.
Gorgeous description.
It's got a three, seven, eight on untapped.
Also, I think this rating reflects on the fact that it's not something
that's over fruited and it's not something that's, you know, super, super happy.
You'll find this for like 999, a four pack at the local beer shop.
The algorithm and the cabinet here.
Love it. It's just super trippy.
Um, we did not call each other to say, Hey, let's drink
some desert themed beers today.
I'll do cactus. You do Desert
Root.
Yeah.
So I'm on the nose.
Just digging that schnoz and.
Definitely you get that the sour sour sent to it.
A little bit of that citrus from the tangerine coming out.
Tangerine Dream.
Real refreshing, though.
So we warm up the tongue jobber
every time I know you're on your way.
You could see my face.
It's very crisp, very light, very refreshing.
Big bits of the tangerine.
I've never actually eaten a prickly pear because they have
those paper thin thorns coming off them
and if you get them stuck in your skin, it's like an invisible sliver.
Oh, that sounds exciting.
Yeah, it's actually horrible to handle them, but.
So I can't touch.
I'm the flavor of if there is any prickly pear in here,
but I could tell you that this is
just super refreshing, very crisp.
It's a legit summer beer and totally fits the flex algorithm.
And yeah.
Do ten bucks for a four pack of 16 ounces.
That's.
Yeah, it's stupid.
Yeah, it really is. That's money right there.
People should catch on to that and boo to your brother in law.
I wanted to get rid of them.
Well, he's you know, he's, you know,
told me he thinks his taste buds are changing.
And, you know, because he did have a four pack, a black stack in his fridge and
he actually let me have one of those tonight, which is pretty cool.
And, you know, he's always inviting for me to drink whatever beer he has.
But yeah, just some of the fruit and stuff.
He's like, Yeah, he just said he actually cracked
a couple fruited stuff and he took a couple sips
and just poured it out because he just wasn't feeling it.
Well, if he wants his taste buds to keep changing, I might come over to you.
Hey, come on.
We'll have a party, right?
Party with all the beer he got rid of.
Yeah. Oh, well, very nice. Sounds exciting.
I had a tasty sour over the weekend to talk about next week
when I talk about my trip anyways. All right.
Like I said before, the homie Junior Beer left us a voicemail with you today
or last couple of weeks, I've been talking a lot of shit about untapped,
especially in relation to the undeserving scorers
that morning Watch has been receiving and naming the score.
It's a shame. Yeah.
I mean not even like the number scores
like the things people write, like the whole, you know, like here's a
three and a half, which is a decent score and then like this didn't hit the mark.
It's like the what would you give it if it did hit the mark?
You give it a three and a half, you fucking weirdo.
Anyways, enough about that.
Issue your beer with the voicemail. Oh
usually I
to pay extra for that.
Oof. Cesspool.
Oh how do you know.
I was like Jake's from State Farm
were you.
Oh, nope.
Whoa, whoa.
What's with the cheap plug?
Yeah, we did have an issue where I was actually going to have to invite you
over for a podcast and then end up being the week that the wife got COVID.
So I figured it's bad idea to invite him over for said, but.
Yeah. That would have been bad. Yes.
So anyways,
I was cracking up, but I still think
most people of untapped are horrible.
You know, like people of Twitter like have most of Twitter's a bunch of assholes.
I think most of untapped users are assholes.
They're the people thinking like.
Oh, I don't like to.
Stars, I don't like it, but I also don't like sours.
It's like then don't fucking rate it then.
Yeah, don't rate it or don't drink it or yeah, yeah I agree.
That's more like look if, if it's a genuinely bad beer,
give it a fucking shitty review.
It's like, oh I don't like sours two stars like
why shut the fuck up
early drink hazes this was ghost is gross and clear All.
Right that's that.
So it just crossed my mind yeah. Yeah.
Fucking Hasbro's.
No. Anyways, thanks to Chu beer for always
bringing the fun 80553a beer dude 337 If you want to call us, leave a voicemail.
By the way, I put on my khakis and my button up
and I went to beer advocate and morning watch is not on there.
So I guess it's not clear.
Now you got to take those clothes off. Or
zip. Get ready, big boy.
There you go.
I really like that. You guys get over yourself like.
No, we will not.
No, we won't. We're not going to. Yeah.
All right.
Lots news has been going on in the last week or so.
First of all, McKellar is closing their San Diego Taproom and production facility.
And it begin.
In another case of could they happen to a nicer company.
Content?
Yeah.
They are citing COVID and inflation
as the reason that they're going to have to close those facilities.
I'm going to say because fucking hell that dickhead.
And yeah.
Anyways, that's another story we've covered in depth, but
they will go back to their contract brewing.
I remember back in the day when they started like
they didn't have a spot and it was a whole thing
where like they'd brew at different breweries
all over the country and then it was like, oh, try and catch the whatever mckeller.
And then, you know, they got their own spot.
Honestly, I feel like their hype died down
when they got a couple
of permanent locations because all sudden it was easier to get their stuff.
Yeah, before I remember when they would do
the the three Floyds collabs
they had like the Foggy Geyser and which was a pretty good beer. But
yeah, then
everything went down with them and nobody wanted to touch it anymore.
Right, exactly.
What else?
Oh, Maui.
You know, the purchaser of modern times.
The deal is still set to close in October.
They say, when the deal closes, their new organization instead of
being mally brewing in modern times, which they'll offer two separate brands.
But the new organization will be called Craft Ohana.
Uh, I feel like I'm watching.
What's the rock movie?
Uh, Moana. Moana.
There you go.
You want to.
I was thinking of Lilo Stitch ran. Oh, there we go.
That's a better reference.
Yeah, better reference. Good job.
And support goes $165 million acquisition.
Acquisition of stolen chain.
Did words. Do or.
I made it.
I made it. Okay.
You got to like almost there.
Almost almost.
Made it there.
$165 acquisition of Stone Brewing officially closed last week on August
31st.
Stone is officially no longer craft and they will start immediately
bringing over Sapporo production to the stone facilities.
That's crazy.
Mm. Just man. No.
How does that make you feel? Well, it's so weird.
I mean, first of all, I feel this.
People are like, you're stupid.
I feel a little, like, betrayed and lied to for so long.
No one has preached like how disgustingly independent they are.
More than crap or more than stone.
Everything they did was like, We hate big beer
and we're more independent than your mom and like, whatever.
And then
as good.
And then out of nowhere is like, Hey, we just sold for really
not that much money considering who we are.
Yeah, Ballast Point sold $4 billion and Stone sold 165 mil.
Like it's a lot of money.
And I realize part of that is because Sapporo
was also us to pay off their debts. So yeah, sure.
They took on all that.
Right, exactly. So that which. Is what, 300.
Million years.
Three something.
Yeah. Yeah, something.
Somewhere in the three hundreds.
So it's no no small chunk of debt, but yeah man it, it hurts.
I've said it many times on the show
and everybody asks like, what got you into craft?
Two beers, really?
One was Mammoth 395 and the other is Stone.
Kelly Belgique and
so got me into craft and it's you know
I'm sure there are people when Ballast Point sold out there were like Pac-Man
it was sculpted that got me into craft and I'm sure it sucked for them.
And I feel your pain now.
Stone was a big part of me going craft and making IPAs and
all that kind of stuff.
So here we are now.
Now here's $167 million question.
Greg, anymore trace leeches for Christmas?
Oh, you mean the joke of aces?
Yeah. It's funny you should say that.
I believe it was his boys or the trolling accounts on the gram posted
the thing about Djokovic's and how bad it is.
I've always really liked Djokovic.
I think it's a great Christmas spirit to translate.
Just one wasn't my favorite.
I like the OG Choko better.
You know what if it's handed to me so don't drink that shit.
It's just Christmas in the can.
I'm proud of you. I'm proud of you for saying that.
That's a big step for you.
I'm sorry. It's Christmas. In.
Here.
Only sell myself out even more.
Hey, I had a sip of Bud Light next man you're okay with.
I'm still a step above every year speaking to Sapporo.
You know, they bought out Angkor Brewing a few years ago.
Yeah.
And every year I still have a happy Christmas and married new.
Nope. Merry Christmas and Happy New Year from Angkor.
Because once again, it's just Christmas in a bottle and I enjoy it and maybe
I don't review on the show anymore, but I still have it.
And for all you fuckers wondering know.
Wow, this is like a therapy session, right?
This is.
This is fucking deep, man.
If everybody wants to know what shirt
I'm wearing right now, it's actually a stone shirt.
And you know why? Because it's fucking comfortable.
Like, why wear it to breweries anymore?
Probably not.
But it's one of the most comfortable shirts
I own was given to me as a gift like ten years ago.
Still super comfortable.
Wear the shit out of this shirt.
I'll tell you what it looks. It looks comfortable.
It is. Looks horrible on me, but it's comfy.
Oh. Here it is.
Oh, do I owe you money for that therapy session or we we good or.
Nah, man, I'm your friend. So we do this stuff for free.
Or at least we do. I like that.
I need a few more.
And then speaking of breweries that are no longer around, green flash, they are.
You know, they were purchased.
So weird in. San Diego Breweries, man.
They were purchased.
They no longer produce at their facility.
They're 100,000 barrel brewery is going up for auction on September 14th.
So if you're looking for a I looked it up
they're actually piecing it out there not auctioning off the brewery.
They're piecing everything out and everything, no matter what it was.
Thought like they're auctioning off like tank separately.
Yeah, everything.
I mean, it got down to like they had a couple of TVs
that were used as menus and they were like auctioning them off separately,
like everything's going and interesting.
So auctioning everything off and then just sell the building straight out.
Yeah.
I don't know if they owned
the building of their rent in it, you know, who knows how that works.
But like all the equipment, one by one is being piecemeal auctioned
and everything I looked on the website starts at $10. Wow.
So if you want a big ass fermenter that holds like 50 barrels of beer,
$10 starting bid.
$10 starting with. Yeah, they had a bunch of lab equipment for like.
$10 to 20 to $20, 35, whatever, whatever.
I were.
Told.
When by the way, that's all Busta Rhymes does too.
Bertinelli raps anyways.
Wow, you don't you say that I love Buster.
He's the best.
But like half of his songs, he's like word, word, word, nine.
And in an intimate word, word, word, it's like, Oh, you cheated by doing that.
But it's. It's so smooth, though. Yeah.
Nobody does it like he does.
But I'm over here going like, Dylan, I need that.
And that man did the you know, and he's just it's just like butter.
You sound like you're doing Bo Debar.
I don't know what that was anyways.
So if you're looking for a bunch of brewery gear December 14th,
get that green flash left over
and then finally we'll end it on a man.
I should have found a better story to end the show on.
This is not the happiest story.
But Germany's hop crop, it rhymes, is down
20% versus 2021.
They're blaming this on the heat wave and the drought
they're having over there in Europe.
And they're encouraging brewers to quote embrace modern varieties.
Which leads me to this chilling challenge now, leads me to this question.
Is it, you know, if you're brewing a traditional
German beer, you know, like a marzen or something like that,
is it still the same thing if you're using some, uh, new newfangled hops?
Yeah, that's super interesting.
Yeah.
I mean, you can find hops, newer varietals that have
similar alpha acid profiles and all that kind of stuff.
But I'm going to brew this German Pilsner with New Zealand.
Hey, check out my marzen with with most weka.
Well, isn't, isn't that just the New Zealand Pilsner?
Not German.
It's dust New Zealand.
I wrote German on the label, so it's a German.
And so it is done.
Yeah, I don't know how that works.
I don't know if there's any like, you know, Germans go like the Rhine.
Hi, it's about rules and all that stuff. Like, is it.
Is it still a fucking marzen if you don't, you, if you don't use
the no hops from Germany, is it still a,
you know,
being a lager if you're not using
sides or one of those?
I'm going to say no, but I'm also not a scientist.
Right.
Many scientists are out there listening.
Please. You know what?
Those are brews with Bukowski show notes, you know,
lots of beer history and rules and laws.
Well, we'll reach out to her.
Yes, please let us know, because we are not as smart as you are.
No, that is a fact.
We like a. Super, super fact.
If if, if, in fact, it could be any more factual than it is.
Like like a fact ran into some green issues in the sewer.
Like it would be a super fact.
Or if it was like five facts that combined into one
mega Zork fact you know.
That's yes there'd be like a power of fact.
Nailed it.
So don't.
I feel like this is where we started the show.
It's it's going to get worse.
I think that was really good in the show.
I mean, that perfect note, we're going to add some music because that was the.
Perfect it's the music.
Say hi, Vanessa. Hi, Vanessa.
Well, also encourage
everybody to check us out on the grams crap your public of course flex me a beer
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now I think that's everything I hope everyone is saying very well hydrated.
And on that note, goodnight everybody.