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On today's show, we have Doctor Kevin Preston, drawing from his

experience in effective clinical practice since 2009 fusing

traditional Chinese medicine, quantum physics and biological

medicine. Doctor Preston has worked together with 1000s of

patients to help heal the root cause of their symptoms. He's

become known for unconventional ideas on health and medicine and

resolving complex chronic illness, mystery syndromes and

more, employing his expertise in pattern recognition of

behaviors, thoughts and physical body expression. Dr Preston

works with patients to uncover the hidden or unseen elements of

life that are holding them back. This data can be used to guide

individuals toward their fullest and most authentic expression

with clarity, focus and vitality. Dr Preston works

privately with high impact leaders, groups and

entrepreneurs to illuminate key areas of their lives that need

to shift alongside their health and businesses. He is passionate

about igniting the fire within everyone he works with through

online group programs, public speaking, hosting large in

person events and leading powerful adventure retreats, you

are in for a treat, folks.

Welcome back, everybody. I know you're so excited for another

edition of When Spirit calls and we are back. And I am extra,

extra excited about our guest today. I had the privilege of

meeting this beautiful human Dr, Kevin Preston, just a couple

weeks ago in person, and you know, we just actually finished

a conversation talking about how, you know, we can be

catalysts for each other without even realizing it, and what we

activate in one another, sometimes we don't even know

what we've done the ripple impact that we have. So welcome.

Dr, Kevin,

Dr. Kevin Preston: Thank you. Thanks for your excitement. I'm

excited to be here too, and it's like we can just, you know,

carry on from the last conversation, because I had you

on my podcast. And you know, thanks for being a guest there

too, and excited for more.

Rev. Rose Hope: Me too. You know, one of the things that you

know comes up for me quite often in doing these podcasts, is this

incredible ability that we have to bond and to connect through

story. And I often will tell people, storytelling is a form

of medicine, not just for the receiver, but for the deliverer.

And so I'd like to invoke some of your medicine today and have

you share a bit about your story and when spirit called you,

because I know that you listen to the voice to the call, and

that takes a great deal of courage, as we know, but I'd

love to hear kind of what was it that started that shift for you,

or were you just always this incredible?

Dr. Kevin Preston: Right? Gonna get red faced here. I've been

asked a number of times over the years, just from an intuitive

standpoint, because I've been a Chinese medicine practitioner

for 16 plus years now, and in a lot of those visits over time,

and I'm sure you found this in a lot of your work with people

too, that when you spend time focused on something, you do

start to develop more skill sets there, and you lay down new

neural networks in your brain and your intuition, and you

suddenly start to be able to tap into more information in a

bigger field of energy. And so when people have asked me that,

like, Have you always been this way? And sometimes I ask, like,

What do you mean, which way? Like, is this a good question?

Not a good question, but yeah, I would say, years ago, I would

say, No, I haven't been this is something that's unfolded later

on, and maybe I'm a bit of a late bloomer, but then I've had

other realizations where I think back to earlier phases of life

and like, oh, wait a minute, there was insights. There was

some of the catalysts early on. And so I was really drawn to

nature, and I spent a lot of time in the forest. I had, you

know, four of us as siblings, and so we're outside playing

together all the time, and you know, the river and the creek

and collecting rocks and building forts and things. I

also have a lot of memories of spending time alone in the

forest. And now that I know a lot more about myself. I was

naturally doing that because I needed it, because I would be

feeling like so much energy and emotion, and I would need to

discharge that and offload that, and integrate it in some way.

And so it's interesting how the nature of each of us organically

may pull us into the environments and the spaces that

we need that we don't even conscious. Just say, No, we need

and so, you know, there's different memories that come up.

But I vividly remember, I think I was 16, and I was playing

fairly high level hockey, and, you know, growing up in Alberta,

and you drive all over the place, all over the province,

and in the winter and in the snow and the cold. And I know

you know that really well. And I had my driver's license, so I

started driving myself to my games and practices quite a bit.

And you know, my parents would still drive me at times, but I

was heading out, and I think there was a decent Blizzard

going on, and that never fazed me. I was fine driving in the

snow and the colds, and I felt good about it. And there was

many times I had driven in much worse conditions. But something

was different about that particular evening. I still

can't even tell you what it was, but I got my truck, I had my

gear, and I loved hockey, like I lived for and I wanted to go.

And I started driving down the driveway, and I started to get

an uneasy feeling. And I got to the end of the driveway before I

pulled out on the road, and there was this aspect of, nope,

I'm not going. And they sat there and idled for four or five

minutes, kind of battling with this. But I want to go. This is

hockey like this is something I love, and I am important to be

there and the team, and I think it might have been captain on

the team at that time, and kind of this inward pull, and I'm

looking at the snow and thinking, the conditions are not

bad, like I've driven in way worse. You know how the mind

tries to justify and ultimately, I ended up putting the gear

shift in reverse, and it backed down the driveway, and I parked,

and I went back in, took my gear, and my parents said, Hey,

like, what are you doing? Like, aren't you going to hockey? And

I said, No, I'm not going. And I don't remember much conversation

after that. I think I just went downstairs to my room and just

hung out. And I'll never really know why I didn't go, but I know

I wasn't supposed to, and I think that was one of the

earlier memories that I like consciously remember hearing

that feeling that being a bit confused by it, but I trusted

that. And then, you know, ever after that, there were other

experiences that I started to learn how to cultivate that

trust. And of course, there was many moments I felt a call,

didn't listen to it, got a sweet lesson or a challenging one.

And, you know, brings us back to ourselves. Of Oh, right, we do

have information and knowledge that maybe is not always

consciously forms that comes from the field of energy around

us, or from spirit however. You know, somebody thinks about

that, but I've had a lot of moments like that. And it is

some cases where I don't go do something, and then there's lots

of cases where I get the call to do something, yeah, and then I'm

doing my best to listen to that.

Rev. Rose Hope: I really love this story, because the fact

that you were 16 and you were able to listen to that, I think,

is huge, you know. And I think about different times in my

life, too, in my childhood, in my teens as well, where it's

like I felt something, but it didn't make sense up here, you

know, in my head, it's like, well, no, that doesn't make any

sense. Why would I not do the thing, and then I would do the

thing, and then, you're right, there would be some sort of

consequence to that, you know, experience. So, you know, I

think that a lot of people would love to listen more, but

struggle to do that. And so as you kind of got into your 20s,

you know, what were some of the things that you were doing then

that allowed you to listen into that like, I would assume that,

you know, you were called to go into traditional Chinese

medicine, and you felt that pull. But I'm curious to know,

kind of like, what else led you into that pathway?

Dr. Kevin Preston: I think when I look back at the lens, you

know, from current day, it was trusting those little, you know,

people talk about it, the little breadcrumbs are the omens. And,

you know, The Alchemist is one of my favorite books. And it's

like, trust the, of course, it's such a good book, trust the

omens. And I could also see, back then, I wasn't necessarily

aware in the way that I am now, but I was still trusting those

breadcrumbs or the feeling that I would get. I'm a big feeling

person, and then experiences and how life kind of guides us.

Because Chinese medicine was not something that was on my radar

early in life at all. And I ended up having treatment with

acupuncture at a clinic I was working at as a student, because

I thought about going into different forms of medicine,

sports medicine, physio, you know, I played hockey, I played

college hockey, I played junior hockey. I had a lot of injuries,

so I was around great practitioners a lot of the time

getting stitches or rehabilitating some injury, and

end up having knee surgery at 15 and again at 20. And, you know,

all kind of hockey related, and I think it was through a lot of

treatment and experiences of having injuries, of cultivating

a deeper connection with my body. And I ultimately believe

now it was sort of the disconnect and destiny that was

leading to some of those injuries that I could kind of

put together more later on looking back of Oh, no wonder

that happened, and it also was illuminating my path and led me.

Get acupuncture treatment. I remember getting acupuncture,

and it worked really well. And I was confused by that. I didn't

really know a lot about it, but I felt the results. I saw the

results. It was so tangible. And I think maybe the curiosity, I

have a curious mind, and I love understanding things. I love

learning and knowledge. And so I started reading books about

Chinese medicine, just to see. And it was one of those things

that, as things unfolded, I started to feel that curiosity

grow and that pull more. And I remember reading a book and

everything just kind of hit me, you know, as that moment, maybe

spirit or otherwise. And it was talking about how conventional

medicine views the body, and how Chinese medicine views the body.

And if you had, let's say, 10 patients that you were seeing

that all had migraines, typically they would get the

same medication, or some version of that same medication for pain

from a conventional viewpoint, whereas in Chinese medicine, you

would be asking all the different questions about their

life, about the rest of their body, their symptoms, the

history, injuries, concussions, maybe other issues, anemia and

all of these other things, hydration, diet, and you would

really get into what I view as like the full Garden of Life.

And Chinese medicine views the body as a garden. And you would

always do individualized treatment. There's no way that

you would treat each of these people the same, even though

they have a similar presentation, because you want

to find out why. So you might be treating a 300 pound linebacker

who's had 10 concussions. The treatment you'd administer to

somebody with that kind of history would be very different

than like a 85 year old woman who's 95 pounds suffering with

like anemia or poor diet, or all those different things, it'd be

completely different reason for the presentation, and that's

what we get into in Chinese medicine. And I think like that

really, it really made sense to me, like it landed in my body of

it just seems so practical. Like, of course, you would try

and find the reason underneath the symptom. The symptom is just

information. And that sparked something in me deeper to

eventually. I definitely remember feeling that that leap

of, I'm going to shift direction from kind of a conventional

medicine direction to Chinese medicine without really knowing

a lot about it. I didn't actually know, really know the

depth of what I was getting into, but I did it, and I

thought, well, let's try, and then just see and yeah, like, 20

years later, I'm like, Oh, that was a cool leap.

Rev. Rose Hope: You know, I love these leaps, because I've done

so many of them in my life. And when I leap, I find such

exhilaration, first of all, but I find that those leaps pay back

in spades. Do you know what I mean? Like when I first started

diving into the spiritual work? You know, I took the Akashic

records because I was a skeptic. I took it because I had been

taught mainstream medicine, so I had a very logical, practical

way of looking at things. I thought, There's no way people

can do this stuff. There's no way. And I took it, and I was

like, What is this? You know, it opened up a whole new world. And

I love that you were willing to just know the feeling you had

when you were doing the bit of research you were and having

that curiosity that you like, let that feeling guide you.

Because I think that's again, where a lot of us, we miss that,

you know, we're going so fast all the time that we're missing

the listening, right? You know, spirit's always calling. We're

not always listening, you know. And so it's, it's so beautiful

that that happened. I've got a question for you. Do you think

that your injuries needed to happen for you to find this

path?

Dr. Kevin Preston: Yes, 100%

Rev. Rose Hope: Thank you. And I want to kind of open this up a

little bit, because recently I've had some clients that have

had some injuries or had some illness and like, why is this

happening? And they're so frustrated. And you know,

there's this reminder that often I invite them to lean into is

like reminding them there's some potency in what you're

experiencing, that there's some medicine here in the experience.

And I think about I've had a few injuries myself, and I had

actually a very serious bike accident in 2021 a cycling

accident, and I remember having some precognition. I actually

saw myself getting in an accident. And I was like, No,

that's not gonna happen. I'm careful. I'm on, you know, not

on the highway trails. I'm fine. And so this one particular

morning, I'm rushing around, and my house was in renovation, so I

couldn't find my helmet. I thought, I'll just throw in a

baseball cap. No big deal. I'm staying on, like, the bike the

paths, you know, it's not big deal. And as I'm biking along

this path, there's a fence and a skid steer, or a bobcat, comes

out blind onto the bike path from the fence, and so all of a

sudden, there's a bucket in front of me, a skid steer bucket

right in front of me, and I am swerving to try and miss it. It,

but I don't miss it. I hit the bucket. I get catapulted 10 feet

onto the pavement. Wow. What's really cool about this story is

that as I'm heading towards the pavement, the last thing I

remember is actually seeing the pavement. And I thought, This is

it? Like I had that thought in my head, like, this is it. And

I've had many of those as you know, have had some near death

kind of experiences in my life, and somehow I rotated, so I

broke my humerus, ha, ha, universe, very funny, and I

bruised my kidney. I was black and blue my whole left side. And

obviously an ambulance came and I was transported the hospital,

and I had blood in my urine, so they had to monitor the kidney

all the things. So it was quite serious, but I didn't have any

major head concussion. And so what's fascinating is the guy

that was driving the skid series, like, I don't know how

you turned, like, how did you rotate? Because he saw me going

headfivement. And as I reflected back on that, I remember feeling

like something was turning me. I can't even explain it. It's like

an angel came and went. I'm just going to rotate it just a little

so you don't smash your head and you get your shoulder instead.

But the point of the story is not any of that. The point in

the story is I needed that experience, and I had been

asking God for a break, quote, unquote, I didn't mean

literally, but I was going through a lot at that time.

There's a lot of chaos. I was, you know, raising children as a

single parent. I was doing renovations in my home. I all

these things, growing a business, and so I was in this,

like, really fast track, and that accident changed my whole

trajectory, yeah, because I took a step back and I said, What am

I doing here? Like I'm going so fast I can't even hear, I can't

hear the messages of divine. I think I am, but I'm not really.

And so that break, that incident, is what actually

redirected me and moved me into also doing my degree in

metaphysics, which opened up again, a whole nother world for

me. So all to that question, do you think the injuries, you

know, were there for a reason? Absolutely. So it's a reminder

for us that even on the surface, when we say, Oh, that's a bad

thing to happen, you know, whether it's an illness or an

injury, you know, our perception is, oh, my God, is so bad. But

what if we can shift our perspective of that and we can

actually welcome that experience and say, Okay, there's something

in here. For me, there's value in this. And it sounds to me

like you figured that out a long time ago.

Dr. Kevin Preston: Well, I would like to think that I'm still

learning all the time, and like to show up with the student mind

as much as I can of well, let's see. Let's see what this next

layer has and certainly through challenges. I think this is the

interesting thing about being human right, is that there's

always an opportunity in everything. If we take a bigger

view. We're looking at the long game and just seeing even out of

curiosity, Why would something like this come up? And the

amount of times I've heard stories like this from patients

is really vast, and it is often when we need to slow down. There

is something that will slow us down, unless we're listening to

the nudges ahead of time. And there's definitely things I've

been through where I wasn't and you know, whether physical

injuries or mentally emotional challenges and stresses and big

life changes. And then after some time passes, you start to

see the wisdom and why things showed up in the way that they

do, and seeing it as a redirect or an opportunity where needed,

and also that we have to be quite specific with what we want

to manifest, right? You needed a break for kids, yeah, like

metaphorical or or literal, and sometimes it's both, and so

listening to the whispers and listening to the nudges. But I

think also there's a really key point here, and I've been

sharing this with lots of people lately, and myself the reminder

to slow down. And it doesn't mean not being productive. It

doesn't mean not having an impact at all. And I think the

Navy Seals have this saying, like, slow is smooth and smooth

is fast. And I haven't really met many people, me, included,

that can really listen at the depth that's possible when we're

going too fast, like it's kind of a requirement to get into

stillness, to slow down, at least in some ways, so that all

of this information, intuition, guidance, can actually catch up

with us. If you're ahead of it 100 miles an hour, you can't

catch up with that. And this is actually where I see a lot of

gaps in the physicality in people's bodies these days is

they start having symptoms, they have autoimmune conditions, they

have all kinds of different things going on, and usually

that tells me, Oh, there's a gap somewhere. I wonder where that's

coming from, gaps in their relationships, in their mission,

in their career, often in their relationship with themselves.

They're not slowing down or. Listening to, like, what is

really inside here? What am I needing? What support might be

needed, what direction and so, yeah, we gotta, like, just park

ourselves for a moment and just, you know, take a breath and then

see what is there.

Rev. Rose Hope: Yeah, isn't that the truth? You know, I had a

coach named Chris, and she would say, you got to slow down to

move ahead, you know? And I was always this like, oh, going,

going, going, you know. And even still, like, I still have this

energy that's like, I get a little excited. Obviously, I'm

very passionate, a little animated. But in this process of

allowing myself to slow down, what happens for me, and I'm

sure for you too, is that I make better decisions, more aligned

decisions. So me going fast and trying to get all these things

done. I was doing things that I didn't need to be doing. You

know what I mean? I was like leaking energy. And so the

slowdown allows us to hear the call more deeply, make better,

more aligned decisions, which actually will expedite our

growth and expedite, you know, whatever that experience is for

us. So I'm with you. Slow down to move ahead. So here's what

I'd like to kind of dive into, because I just finished talking

to you about this before this call. You've got a really cool

event coming up, and we'll talk about it a bit at the end. But I

just kind of want to plant the seed with it, because you've

been running this event new human for several years now, and

I'm curious to know the story for that particular event,

because I feel the energy of the event, this event, in a way that

I've never felt an event before. And maybe that's a testament to

you. Maybe there's a much grander, you know, aspect at

hand. But I'm curious to know what led you to that. I used to

put on big events. I had aim higher, be lifted, feel good,

fest, awaken. And I do these conferences and these trade

shows, and it's a huge amount of work, as you know, massive,

massive undertaking. And so I'm curious to know what that call

was for you, and what led you to that like and feeling like you

got a download and someone said you will create an event called

new human.

Dr. Kevin Preston: That's not that far off, I guess. But you

know, if we want to look at the logical side for the first part,

perhaps, you know, working in the clinic for years and years,

lots of experiences, one on one. I had always had a dream of

doing retreats. And I started doing retreats back in 2019, and

I probably led, I don't know, like, 30 retreats, something

like that to date, outside of, like, the bigger events. And so

I've done events in like Tofino. Cosmic surfing in Tofino is what

it was called. Then a few of those, and Banff and, you know,

these cool places, and out in caslo and the Kootenays here, we

did a bunch of them with a dear friend of mine, and it was

called collective hearts. And we did nine of those. And so, you

know, all these different layers would come up. And eventually, I

finally got started. Even though it was a dream. It had been a

dream for over a decade. I felt like it just it needed the time

that it did to cultivate the skills, the qualities within me,

the embodiment within me, to actually lead something from a

grounded place and from a more clear place. And then we always

get to learn. So anybody out there hearing this, you don't

have to heal all of your baggage, all of your stuff, to

start doing something meaningful, and it'll be through

the process of actually teaching, learning, guiding, or

following your heart in that way that'll bring you even more. So

I learned by doing. And so I started doing that, and then I

started having this vision of doing a one day event years ago,

and part of the intention that I was feeling was, oh, I want it

to be accessible for people. I want people that are maybe new

to this line of work, or new to intuition, spirituality, energy,

Chinese medicine, all of those things, metaphysics, that they

could have a very low investment in both time and money and

something local here. I want us to do something here for the

community and so many amazing people that have been so

supportive to me and my practice and all the all the dreams and

visions that I have. And so we did that, and it was a one day

event, and I remember the night before, standing on the little

stage that we had rented as kind of an outdoor like pole bar and

beautiful venue. It worked out really, really well, and we had

maybe just over 100 people there, and I could feel that the

night before of Oh, I'm scared. I'm feeling intimidated. I'm

looking at all the chairs set up with nobody in them. And there

was definitely part of me that thought, Whose idea was this,

this is not what we're doing. How did we end up here? And then

thinking, I can't cancel now, there's 100 people coming

tomorrow morning, and it was like nine at night, and I just

had to kind of sit with that discomfort of doing something

new, something I hadn't done before, not in that way. A lot

of the other retreats were like two, three day retreats, five

days, but with like six, eight people, 1015, people, maybe 18

people, Max. So going to 100 plus different moving parts, it

was. A leap. And so we did it, and it went well. And I just

thought, well, let's test it out and see if I even like it. Maybe

this is gonna be something that I don't wanna keep doing. But it

opened something more. And so I did another one a few months

later. And again, we had, I don't know, 120 people or

something, and then the bigger vision of, what about a two day

event? Or what about three days? Like, what would that be like?

And I started seeing and feeling the people that I actually

wanted to invite to come and speak, where it wouldn't just be

me. And I had visions for some of the speakers that now I

either have worked with or were about to work with at this one

coming up in the fall here. And it's really interesting that I

got shown those people, I got shown the vision, and I didn't

know how was going to come along, but I didn't have a name

for it yet. And that is the part that dropped in over time of,

oh, if I'm doing this event, we're going to have to name it

something. And at that point, I was thinking it would just be a

one off event, you know, a couple days. Let's see what

happens. And likely, I was walking in nature. I think

that's the memory that drops in because there because that's

usually where things drop in for me, just by myself, and the new

human was what landed in. And to be honest, I didn't really love

that name, like I had some I love it now, resistance, but

there was some resistance that I'm like, I don't know that is

that the one? And I had to sit with it for a couple weeks, and

it didn't go away. And it actually dropped in more and

more and more. And okay, I'm going to have to surrender to

that. I guess that's what we're going to call it. And so we did.

And so yeah, this fall, we've got the fourth version of the

new human coming up. And you know, I don't even know where

some of these ideas drop in from but sometimes when they do,

because there's lots of ideas I don't take action on. But this

one, I could feel, oh, I need to, without understanding all

the the pieces of, yeah, logistics. And I guess we'll

see. And I'm going to learn. I'm going to learn by doing that.

Why don't we try? And then let's see. Because I could feel the

depth and the resonance I wanted to come through for it, and it's

been quite a journey so far.

Rev. Rose Hope: Yeah, yeah. I bet you grow a lot in the

process yourself. I know I did. Every time I would put on an

event, it would be like, Okay, here I go, because I knew I was

gonna have some sort of evolutionary experience in the

process. Thank you for sharing that, and we'll circle back to

that at the end, but I would love I know that you have so

much wisdom, and you could give us like a million beautiful

tools and pearls of wisdom, but I would love to hear from you,

what are three of the biggest things that you wish you would

have known when you were younger, or that you feel like

is a main problem that your clients have to overcome, and

what is it that you share with them to help them in this so

called journey of life? So I'd love to just hear that from you.

Dr. Kevin Preston: Well, let's see. Let's see what wants to

come through. Yeah, I love it. I think the notion that our

greatest woundings are our greatest blessings, actually and

even in our vocation and our journey here. And you know,

there's lots of teachings that support this too, but I didn't

know it for myself. And I think that's been a big learning over

many, many years of Oh yeah, the pain points, the places of

struggle, are often hiding and will reveal your greatest

talents and gifting, if you are willing to face into that. And

so I think the second part of that I was quite a fearful

person, and I did not have a lot of confidence. And there's

people that I've met, and lots of people in my life now that

don't know that version of me, because maybe I've only met them

in the last five or 10 years, and they're like, Oh, it must be

easy, or you're just kind of like this. And I chuckle and

think, no, I am not just like this. The journey from who I was

in the past and who I am now, and, you know, where I'm going

in the future has been challenging varied, and I think

about this with other, you know, guides or leaders, or anybody

that wants to, you know, teach and feels that calling in their

life, that you will face difficulties, you will face

things, but you got to see the blessing in that, and that is

actually there to cultivate something and somebody within

you that is more strong, capable, grounded, integrated

than whoever the previous versions are. So you said it

like the the challenges and the difficulties that I've gone

through since beginning the new human events have been quite

vast. Actually, I don't, I don't want to sugarcoat that. There's

been some big difficulties. I've lost friends. I've had big

challenges with, you know, even staff at times or challenges

with me, huge amount of self doubt at times, and that fear

would come back. And so I would say fear can be your friend if

you learn how to sit with it and to not get rid of it right away.

I think there's a lot of things that you know are taught that we

can bypass. And. Just stuff down or medicate or numb ourselves to

but some of the fears, some of my biggest fears that I've had

in this life so far, they have happened. You know, I went

through different experiences in the past that, oh, I'm like, Oh,

these, these are the things I was the most scared of, and then

I was in it, and yeah, like, and what I realized through going

through that was I needed some of that stuff, you know, I

needed that to cultivate more of a spine, more of a backbone,

more courage, to be able to stand in the fire of life,

sometimes, to be able to actually burn away all of those

things that didn't serve me anymore in programming, things

that were limiting in my own belief structure, like things

that were within me. And so I think a big key is the thing

that you're most afraid of right now is holding the greatest

amount of medicine in your life. And when we can turn and sit

with that and face that, and you know, big fan of gene keys and

Richard Rudd, it's like invite your fear in for tea and sit

with it. Ooh, I love that. And let's see what it has to say.

And what I realized was a lot of my fears were much greater in my

mind than what they were in reality, even though some of

them were really hard, actual life challenges. But it was

actually moving through that one layer at a time, waking up day

after day, and just chewing it one bite at a time, that

eventually you get through, and you you come to a new part of

you, and then you find these activations, or you find that

next level of medicine, and there's no way I'd be able to

lead and guide what I'm doing now without all of those

challenges. It's like the quintessential hero's journey.

But in real life, you need the adversary, you need the

challenge, you need the dark night of the soul. You really

need these things. And so I'm at this point in my life now where

I am sitting with do I need those things now to cultivate

more growth and expansion, or can I do a better job listening

and move with more grace, more ease and more flow, and when a

challenge does come up, invite the fear and fatigue, see what

it has for you.

Rev. Rose Hope: Oh, I love that concept. And I'm gonna, I'm

gonna say this again, the thing you fear the most is the source

of your greatest medicine. Because I think that was such a

powerful quote that you just shared there beautiful I think

that's really going to resonate for a lot of people that are

listening today. I'm sure there's something that they are

sitting with in terms of fear, right? Everybody. So what a

beautiful invitation for all of us. Thank you. Anything else

that's coming to mind before we kind of come into have our final

few minutes here,

Dr. Kevin Preston: I think I might just repeat earlier of

stillness is highly underrated. You know, getting quiet, taking

a pause. And I just think sometimes we need to hear that

like you're allowed to pause. You're allowed to pause in real

time, in challenging conversations. Most of us were

not taught that if you're in a heated argument, a heated issue

with somebody, in real time, you can take a breath and say, I'm

actually just going to pause for a moment. I'm feeling a lot.

This is really intense. Can you actually give me a minute? Or

let's both just take a minute and breathe for a second and

then we'll keep going. Or maybe you need a longer pause, like

give yourself the permission for that, and then in those micro

moments of life, take a pause. But in the big picture, how many

times do we actually stop breathe and take an inventory of

our life? And there's these aspects and different spiritual

teachings too that, and I believe this is probably true

that at the end of your life, whenever that might be, you are

shown your full potential, and you are shown the gap as big or

as small as it is of what you lived, of your full capacity and

what actually happened in your life, and that we don't need to

wait till that moment to see that, because if there's a big

gap, that could be possibly really painful. And so again,

I'm not saying this from a fear place. I'm saying it to be

empowered. Maybe check in once a week, once a month. How am I how

do I feel? Where am I at? And again, not from fear scarcity,

but empowered steps of if I'm not where I want to be, what are

the things, the people, the places, the steps that I can

start taking even a little bit to start closing that gap on the

full potential that we all have. We have a dynamic, amazing,

illuminated blueprint with inside of us. Sometimes it just

needs to be let out a little bit. And, you know, for that

shining light to start to open up a bit more, and that's what

we're going to do at the new human event.

Rev. Rose Hope: I love this, and I love that you gave us all

permission to be still the. Yeah, oh, it's so good, Kevin,

it's always such a privilege to be in your presence and to hear

your wisdom. So thank you so much for sharing all of that. So

that being said, you know, we want to invite our audience to

check out the new human event if they haven't already. So do you

want to just say a few tidbits about that and what else you

might have available? Because it's not just the new human

event. Obviously you still work as a doctor of traditional

Chinese medicine and and so is there anything else that we

should know about you? If we're feeling a resonance and we're

hearing this and we're like, oh my god, this Dr Preston is

amazing. What do we do then

Dr. Kevin Preston: I think, yeah, follow me on socials if

you feel the call, that's usually where we'll be sharing

lots of things that we have upcoming. So certainly, the new

human this year, the theme is Interstellar, and the theme is,

well, even the definition of Interstellar is the space in

between stars. And so I think a lot of us have these beautiful

Cosmic Origins and earthly elements. And and what we're

aiming to do is create a bridge between heaven and earth, but in

an embodied human way that we get to be messy, we get to have

fun, we get to experience joy and challenge and everything

else. But if we do that together, authentically in

person, that's the vessel of energy that we've been building

and all the preparation, I've been working on this event for

over a year now. And so there's lots of layers to build, a safe

container to be present in, so that all the work is almost

done, and then we just need to step in and show up to it and

allow those things to happen and get out of our own way. And so

we curate and guide different experiences to really help

people direct themselves back to them. You know, it's to invoke

that medicine in each of us. It's not about me, it's not

about even the other speakers. And I'm also really excited. Dr

Zach Bush is coming back again. He was there last year.

Rev. Rose Hope: I'm a huge fan. I'm super excited about that.

Yeah,

Dr. Kevin Preston: He's so amazing, so amazing to work

with. So he's coming back. We've got a beautiful Qigong and

meditation type teacher, Stephanie nosco, she's on the

island in BC here, and many more layers in depth to her as well.

We've got an amazing, soulful, intuitive, etheric singer,

maylan Moritz, amazing, powerful voice, very angelic. And her

colleague, Ali Pervez is coming. He's an amazing masculine

embodiment of also that counterpart of voice and sounds.

And my dear friend Andrea is going to be emceeing. I'll be on

stage as well. And then we have our friends from the indigenous

community here that we've been collaborating with. My friends,

Laureen and Edna are going to be back. And, you know, we weave

all these places together, both energetically, but in person,

and, you know, very, very intentionally. And I think that

builds something that's unique and different that you were

speaking to earlier, that you can feel something different

with this. And then I am going to be leading other retreats and

events next year as well, like those smaller, deep dive ones.

So this past year, so far, we did a retreat in Iceland with a

small group of people.

Rev. Rose Hope: And I was so jealous, I was like, Oh, next

time.

Dr. Kevin Preston: Well, so I might do another one. And these

are things I'm sitting with. I might do another one in Iceland

next year. I'm also looking at maybe, I won't share this one

just yet, but it'll be possibly Portugal, or off the coast of

Portugal, just, you know, feeling into some of these

energetics. That'd be probably springtime, like April, and also

just listening to the call and getting quiet and still of where

else do I need to be, and who are the people that I need to be

there with? And different places on the planet are calling to me

as well. And then, yeah, I still am working in the clinic, and

that shifts and changes all the time, but I have some courses

coming out that I'm really excited about, of how to reach

more people that then they don't need to see me in the clinic

directly. And, you know, gratefully, I've got a giant

wait list. And you know, one of those things is that so many

things are changing on the planet, and health and medicine

these days, and I've been listening very deeply the last

few years of how can I be of the greatest level of service? And

so, you know, you'll probably find me speaking on other

stages, even outside of my own event, too. And so yeah, Dr.

Kevin Preston on Instagram is probably one of the best places,

and Facebook as well. And got two websites. drkevinpreston.com

for more of the clinical side. And then we've got

newhumanevents.com and so if you're feeling the call, we've

still got some space for October 3 to fifth. We're going to be in

a giant tents on a flower farm outside of Armstrong here in BC,

and yeah, there's a lot of energy in the flow for what

we're going to be doing there, and it'll be transformational. I

can promise you that.

Rev. Rose Hope: Absolutely it will be. So folks, we're going

to have all those links in the show notes for all of you just

below this podcast. So Dr, Kevin Preston, it's always such a joy.

Thank you so much for taking time out of your very busy

schedule to be with us today and to share your beautiful wisdom.

Any final words of any quotes, any final messages coming

through as we wrap things up today.

Dr. Kevin Preston: Well, I'm grateful for this time and space

because it. Also allows me to drop in with you and slow down

and just flow and have that feeling of there's nowhere else

that I need to be except in the present moment. And maybe the

last thing, I was in a men's retreat with my friend Emily in

2018 in Sedona. And you know, Sedona is powerful and beautiful

in lots of ways, but there was a quote on the wall in that

building, and I've shared this many times, but it's coming up,

so I'm trusting that it said, Follow your heart's highest

excitement. And it really landed in my system and landed in my

bones. And so I've been doing my best since then to live that way

and to only really create and involve myself in things that I

feel that really deep hearts excitement, and then I know I'm

on the right path, and my heart smiles, and I get to keep going.

So thanks for creating this space to connect, and thanks

everyone for tuning in.

Rev. Rose Hope: Well, it's been great. Thank you again, so much,

and thanks everyone for listening until next time. Take

care.

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