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Speaker:now folks have heard of Biden's plan to build a seaport. That's what we're going to call
Speaker:it throughout the episode. but we'll also speculate as to what its intentions are. So in order
Speaker:to have this discussion, we're gonna kind of set the stage what's happening in Gaza, especially
Speaker:as it pertains to geopolitics and humanitarian aid. So again, I'm sure people have also seen
Speaker:the airdrops and the photo ops that go along with all of this. I know Canada has sent some,
Speaker:the EU has resumed some aid and... All of them are sending politicians over to both Israel
Speaker:and Palestine. I don't know if we'll get into Jolie, but she has been over there posing with
Speaker:everyone she can. And some aid drops have been going in. Some trucks of humanitarian aid have
Speaker:been arriving, but not without issues. I mean, the U.S. and Jordanian military are dropping
Speaker:the most amount of aid by air. And they made a big deal out of this one drop that was like
Speaker:11,500 meals. And, you know, that deserved press and the amount of photography involved and
Speaker:follow up. And you're talking about like feeding less than 4,000 people for a day. There's 700,000
Speaker:people in Gaza right now that are starving. And so whatever they're doing right now. sure
Speaker:as fuck isn't working. You know, you see the trucks that are trying to get in through the
Speaker:like one or two crossings that are open. And I open is a loose term. And some of them are
Speaker:being blocked by Israeli citizens. They're using this whole, you know, Hamas will just steal
Speaker:the aid and use it to rebuild. And in the meantime, yeah, folks are actually, you've got a famine
Speaker:on your hands. One can't mention the aid being delivered into Gaza without also mentioning
Speaker:the flower massacres. That's plural now. We did report on the last one that was on February
Speaker:29th. That killed 112 people, wounded 750. But they have been repeated over and over again.
Speaker:The most recent, I believe it was March 14th, with over 50 casualties. There's one location,
Speaker:the Kuwait roundabout in Gaza City, that has been repeatedly targeted as people are approaching
Speaker:these humanitarian aid convoys. The fact that the world is standing by as Israel massacres
Speaker:people that are trying to get food, nothing really surprises me anymore, but I feel like
Speaker:that becomes like a new low globally, surely. Yeah, I feel like, you know, having looked
Speaker:at history, if they wanted to get more aid in, they could easily, you know, instead of air
Speaker:drops, you put a French US, whatever you want ship directly to Gaza, or you go in directly
Speaker:on the ground to deliver aid, it's it is doable, because Israel cannot afford to directly attack
Speaker:any Western powers. So when you see these airdrops killing people because they're not dropped
Speaker:properly, to me it feels like, I mean, back in the day, like whatever happened to, and
Speaker:you know, we talk about how the UN isn't particularly good at what they do. But what happened to
Speaker:UN peacekeepers? Wasn't that something that Canada is supposed to be super proud of? Lester
Speaker:B. Pearson and whatever. Why is not peacekeeping missions to go and deliver aid? Well, this
Speaker:one's a little bit more complicated. Like, Gaza's got a unique kind of geography that doesn't
Speaker:allow for really large ships without a pier. And the closest pier to most of the people
Speaker:is one that was built in Cognouness. 10 years ago, I think it was, but it's now obviously
Speaker:not faring very well. If anybody's seen aerial footage of Gaza, there's very little infrastructure
Speaker:left that would allow that kind of facilitation. So jetties would be required. It definitely
Speaker:still is possible. I mean, the people of Gaza fish, it is accessible by boat. However, we
Speaker:also have to remember there is an Israeli marine embargo. So That's where it gets a little bit
Speaker:complicated because anything that we're going to discuss moving forward likely in a way contravenes
Speaker:this blockade of Gaza that's been going on far longer than the hostilities since October 7th
Speaker:that most people are focused on. So it's possible logistically, but politically is it. So we're
Speaker:seeing a bit of a shift, though. Obviously, I think. Just the level of carnage and the
Speaker:political backlash, particularly the Biden's basin. So for folks who don't follow US politics,
Speaker:we don't really all that much either, but you must know that there's an election brewing
Speaker:and now it's decided it will be between Biden and Trump and a large portion of Biden's base
Speaker:is very upset with him. They're casting undecided ballots. They're showing real displeasure in
Speaker:the only candidate that they have available to beat Trump. And so this is a political crisis
Speaker:for Biden that he has to navigate. And I think we're seeing the narrative shift and their
Speaker:suggestion of building a seaport that comes into play. I think that has a lot to do with
Speaker:these political games and nothing really kind of grounded in actually delivering essential
Speaker:humanitarian aid. because Israel could be letting in a whole bunch more aid right now. Right.
Speaker:There are more crossings than the ones that are open. Israel claims that they're not blocking
Speaker:any of them. We know that that's not true. There are aid ships like flotillas that have attempted
Speaker:to come and bring aid to Gaza before. Now, I don't think anybody's attempted the crossing
Speaker:just because the level of military activity in the area. But there is an aid ship that
Speaker:is stocked and now off the coast of Gaza, sent by a charity in Spain. Open Arms is the name
Speaker:of the ship and the charity. It's got 200 tons of food and people can actually see it on the
Speaker:beaches of Gaza, which has got to be fucking torture. But it's the need for kind of jetties
Speaker:to take them back and forth. And Israel, of course, the UN reminded them and they just
Speaker:ignored it. All of the rulings from January 31st have meant nothing to Israel. They know
Speaker:what their obligations are under humanitarian law and they're not meeting any of them. In
Speaker:fact, They're the ones creating the situation. So, but this narrative shift, I want to focus
Speaker:on that because I think it brings us to the sepulchre. Wasn't there supposed to be like
Speaker:a one month deadline before they had to check back in? Has that happened? So the ICJ ruling
Speaker:was actually that Israel must submit a report to them on how it intends to address all the
Speaker:issues raised and deliver the humanitarian aid within a month. So that is common. That's long
Speaker:past. But I think when the ruling came down, we all knew that Israel never intended to follow
Speaker:up on anything. They denied the legitimacy of the court and even our own politicians kind
Speaker:of scoffed at the ruling. So they knew the globe, the global community would not hold them accountable
Speaker:to that. So I think it's hit a fever pitch. And one of the things that really surprised
Speaker:me is when CNN did a recent report on the situation in Palestine. And in their... fancy newsroom
Speaker:with their, what do you call it, like digitalized walls. They threw up pictures or images representing
Speaker:all of the dead Palestinian children that had been killed since October 7th. And it wrapped
Speaker:around, you know, it was a very gut wrenching piece. It was shocking because it was CNN.
Speaker:And I think it was kind of evidence that what we've been talking about before of it becoming
Speaker:impossible to defend the Zionist narrative now. And so there needs to be alternatives, right?
Speaker:The media can't keep doing it, but surely they see they're walking step in step with the US
Speaker:government and the military establishment there and their plans. So it was like, boom, boom.
Speaker:So as soon as we posted up about the CNN kind of narrative shift, folks were in the replies
Speaker:going, don't buy it. There's always a purpose to this and the purpose is the seaport. So
Speaker:the reason you're seeing the... the US media shift their talking points and start to focus
Speaker:on the, and not just the US media, but BBC is now talking about the inhumane treatment of
Speaker:medical staff in Gaza at the hands of the IDF. A lot more scathing reports are coming out,
Speaker:honest reporting on the human rights abuses of Israel. And so what is the purpose of this?
Speaker:To justify the seaport. And as we talk about the seaport, we'll start to speculate why.
Speaker:Why is this such an emergency military operation as Biden described it in his State of the Union
Speaker:address? He not only called for the seaport to be built, but for a six-week ceasefire.
Speaker:Very specific. And just so happens that it takes about a month to build this type of pier that
Speaker:they are proposing. That's convenient. Because it will be in a very precarious spot, right?
Speaker:We're talking about just off the coast of Gaza. This is where the Israeli army is pounding
Speaker:Ra'afah, Gaza City still, and Khan Yunis with airstrikes and their ground troops are also
Speaker:in the area. Presumably also Hamas troops are in the area. And so it's not a very safe security
Speaker:spot. And so I think this is really self-serving ceasefire because he couldn't afford to lose
Speaker:US troops to this. Well, I instantly start thinking about oil, right? Because didn't they discover
Speaker:a bunch of oil off the coast of Gaza? Natural gas, LNG. I hate history sometimes, right?
Speaker:Like, it does just feel like the look. Like, we can only operate off of what we know, but
Speaker:US acting out of the best interests of humanity is not exactly something that ever happens,
Speaker:so. No, I was saying like even my mom, I said, Mom, she goes, What are you recording on? I
Speaker:go, Well, the US wants to build a seaport in Gaza. They say it's for food. And she goes,
Speaker:Oh, my God. Like she knew she'd watched enough paramilitary operations in Hollywood to know
Speaker:that they're never up to any good. But we don't need to speculate. We've got a few facts to
Speaker:help people get there themselves. And it's like, you know, look, six weeks ceasefire for self
Speaker:serving interests. still saves people. That's the thing is that we're in a position right
Speaker:now where, you know, it's not exactly like I'm out here saying, no, don't give us a ceasefire.
Speaker:We don't want to see, like, you know, yeah, stop killing people. That would be great. But
Speaker:can it not be for self-serving interests? And can it be permanent? Yeah. And not a ceasefire,
Speaker:but an end to the occupation is really, and I know what you mean, like there are ideals
Speaker:and there are what we can get right now from war hawks. So the fact that the US is offering
Speaker:or suggesting a ceasefire, you know, might assist in the situation. But I think when we're looking
Speaker:long term at what the establishment of a seaport by US military personnel in Palestine would
Speaker:mean, even in that region starts to shift your perspective perhaps a little bit. And I think
Speaker:it's because of this urgency that they're allowed to mask this ulterior motive. Right? Because
Speaker:how can we say no? If you were going to deliver and stop the death, the starvation deaths of
Speaker:people who've already experienced such trauma, then you're like, yes, of course, bring them
Speaker:food, like any means necessary. And then we fall into that trouble. You can't undo that.
Speaker:The US will never remove that access to their seaport. And we've seen what they've done to
Speaker:other nations. where they've gone in to provide assistance and they've never been out from
Speaker:under their thumb again. You'd probably just change one occupier for another to be honest.
Speaker:But let's look at what we know about the seaport. Because face value, I don't believe anything,
Speaker:especially with the US is still supplying Israel with weapons. Now Canada, we've just found
Speaker:out it's been reported that since January 8th, so almost Canada's government put a pause on
Speaker:the permits people need in order to ship technology. They call it non-lethal weaponry. We've talked
Speaker:about that before. It absolutely does kill people, but it includes night vision goggles and all
Speaker:this other stuff. They've not been able to ship that from Canada since January 8th. So there
Speaker:has in fact been an informal embargo put on them. But yeah, so in the State of the Union,
Speaker:Biden, he mentions this seaport for like the first time. 36 hours later, the General Frank
Speaker:S. Besson is set sail from Virginia on its way to Gaza to build the seaport. And folks from
Speaker:inside Gaza will show video footage of bulldozers, other heavy machinery entering Gaza for the
Speaker:purpose of building the seaport and not of rescuing people from under the rubble or any kind of
Speaker:rebuilding efforts. So clearly those trucks had no trouble getting in and getting past.
Speaker:They do say it's for humanitarian aid. They're specific, that it would be food, water, medicine,
Speaker:and temporary shelters. So they're basically gonna sustain this refugee camp that's been
Speaker:established in Rafa, expanded, rather, in Rafa. They're calling it an emergency military mission,
Speaker:as though 160 days in, this wasn't already thought of or a possibility. But... It's a no boots
Speaker:on the ground kind of promise, although it will take a thousand US military personnel to build
Speaker:it. They say they've got all this technology that won't allow them to actually get out of
Speaker:the water. So somehow no boots on the ground is really quite literal. They will be just
Speaker:off the shore of Gaza in full reach of them, but won't actually step foot on shore, presumably.
Speaker:It's going to be like a floating. There's photos of it all over the internet. We'll link some
Speaker:of the things to it. It's what's going to allow larger ships and larger equipment to be offloaded.
Speaker:So not just trucks and aid. This is something that the military regularly builds for ground
Speaker:invasions by sea. Get ground troops by sea. And all of a sudden they're just going to apply
Speaker:it to humanitarian efforts only. But It's not just the US military's involvement that makes
Speaker:it sus. Like that's enough sometimes, right? But it's been sourced out largely to this company
Speaker:called Fogbo, F-O-G-B-O-W. And it's this company's makeup that really kind of sells the story
Speaker:of what their likely intentions are for this marine access.
Speaker:on hand with right they've opened up a new sea route that comes from Cyprus which is like
Speaker:the closest EU nation so they'll be able to also take credit for this. So Fogboat LLC it's
Speaker:a pretty new company it only established in 2022 it's registered in Wyoming and almost
Speaker:nobody knows anything about it well that's changing quickly but I mean if you go to their website
Speaker:they don't give out a whole lot of information there's not a lot of previous articles or data
Speaker:on the internet. for this company, but basically it's headed by a bunch of spooks. Its CEO is
Speaker:Carl Sam Mundy. This is like a retired commander of the US Marine Central Command. And then
Speaker:the other folks that run this company, Mark Mulroy, former CIA paramilitary officer. He's
Speaker:also the former assistant secretary of defense for Trump. specifically for the Middle East.
Speaker:He's also got a relationship with the Biden administration. He helped smooth over the transition
Speaker:that Trump didn't want to happen. So he's in close with both sides of the political elites.
Speaker:That asshole also co-directed something called the Yemen Steering Initiative. And this is
Speaker:an important point. This is like a $50 billion initiative, and they've been tasked with establishing
Speaker:democracy and stability in Yemen. I don't know what episode I need to refer you all to, but
Speaker:I mean, even just in our eulogy of Brian Mulroney, we explain neoliberalism and the establishing
Speaker:of democracies in so-called third world countries. And what it really is about is establishing
Speaker:economic presence there, big capital presence, and it's just heightened exploitation of workers
Speaker:in those areas. That's really all it ends up being. And in Yemen, you have a... the US holding
Speaker:up their chosen government and that allows them to delegitimize the Houthi rebels. So that's
Speaker:a complicated political situation, but these are the kinds of people now that are going
Speaker:to be building this peer. They have never done anything humanitarian in their life. They have
Speaker:advised politicians specifically on how to strengthen their national security through a relationship
Speaker:with Israel. All of them have ties to an organization, an institution called JINSA. This is the Jewish
Speaker:Institute for National Security of America. It's a training program for really high ranking
Speaker:military officials. I'm talking generals and admirals. They go in, they meet the Israeli
Speaker:prime minister, they talk to Mossad. They are taught and it's emphasized how important US
Speaker:national security is to Israel and vice versa and how they're intertwined. These are the
Speaker:folks that actually run these junkets that essentially dictate... military policies, especially as
Speaker:it relates to the Middle East. The more you know about this company and the people that
Speaker:are building the pier, the more you understand that it's a complete military strategic move
Speaker:for the United States and the region and nothing else. They may feed Gazans. They'll have to.
Speaker:I mean, if they build the pier, I don't know what kind of malarkey they could make up to
Speaker:somehow then justify. allowing that starvation to occur, but this is going to be a huge geopolitical
Speaker:shift in the region. So does it change how you feel about the bridge at all when you hear
Speaker:about the company building it? In what way? Because I'm not exactly feeling good about
Speaker:any of it, right? Well, I think like, because you kind of express like, well, we need to
Speaker:feed people. And that is true. And a peer would... deliver that and I think a lot of people will
Speaker:give it a green light mentally or not resist it so much because it likely would mean more
Speaker:food, more medicine going to people who need it so desperately. I think like you said, if
Speaker:they really wanted aid there, like ground aid is the most efficient way to deliver it. And
Speaker:we do have global forces. There are means to force Israel's hand into actually opening these
Speaker:routes and securing aid where it needs to go. I feel like... this is the most expensive and
Speaker:politically tumultuous way to possibly deliver aid. Yeah, it's a situation where given the
Speaker:absence of truly compassionate humanitarian ways of doing this, realistic ones, you know,
Speaker:I mean, it's given the state of geopolitical politics and everything. It's kind of a situation
Speaker:where as long as we're relying on... powerful nations with the interest of powerful nations
Speaker:to solve the problem. You're gonna get these, you know, double-edged solutions to things
Speaker:where, because at the end of the day, that's the thing is it doesn't really benefit. Like
Speaker:what do Western powers have to gain from genociding the Palestinian population really? You know,
Speaker:I'm not talking Israel here. I'm talking everyone else. What do they have to gain from a genocide?
Speaker:control of the natural resources in that area. Ah, well, maybe. Maybe not. Maybe Israel wants
Speaker:the control of it. But I think that's what this is about. I think once the US establishes this
Speaker:military presence or this access, because in a way Israel might be going along with it.
Speaker:This might be in consultation with them to a degree, but there's no doubt that it undermines
Speaker:their blockade, it undermines their position, and it- It undoubtedly creates a stronghold
Speaker:for the US in a way that I think that they maybe can stop begging Israel to behave a certain
Speaker:way. There's this political dance that seems to be going on between Biden and Bibi and it's
Speaker:really costing Biden. If we know anything about US politicians, it's that they will risk almost
Speaker:anything sometimes to simply win elections. It's incredible the things that they'll do
Speaker:to distract from whatnot, but they're in a desperate situation here where... They're made to look
Speaker:so bad and the world has turned on Israel. They cannot defend the Zionist ideology anymore.
Speaker:So they need to have a different reason to be in the Middle East. Remember when Biden was
Speaker:like, if there wasn't an Israel, we'd invent an Israel. So he invented in the form of Palestine.
Speaker:Even that would be like best case scenario out of the built of the seaport is that it helps
Speaker:the US to secure statehood for Palestine. But that would definitely be under a US type rule.
Speaker:They would not simply allow that access. And I don't even think that they would go for that.
Speaker:I think this is a way of the US to just dominate the region again, more definitively, rather
Speaker:than having to use Israel as a proxy, because they do seem to have lost control of that state,
Speaker:at least under Netanyahu. And like you said, there's US politicians calling for an election.
Speaker:So they're frustrated with looking bad through Israel. It's kind of gotten out of hand for
Speaker:them. Yeah. Like at the end of the day, the US, they're not helping Israel. They don't
Speaker:support Israel because they believe in the Zionist project, or at least not the powerful. It's
Speaker:always, what can we gain from this? Biden talks about how if there wasn't an Israel, they would
Speaker:have to create one so that they can have a powerful ally in the Middle East. And I mean, sure,
Speaker:I mean, there's a decent amount of Christian Zionist evangelicals who are very powerful,
Speaker:who are doing this out of a belief in the Zionist project, but they're doing it for very selfish
Speaker:reasons because they believe it'll bring upon, you know, end of days and whatnot. But yeah,
Speaker:there's always something to gain from this. And so just looking at this, it's very much...
Speaker:It's a time when I get a little... I don't know. confused about what we even ask for because
Speaker:we want a ceasefire. We want an end to the occupation. We want all of these things. How do we get
Speaker:it? Well, if we're, if we're asking the powerful countries, the only way that that's going to
Speaker:happen is if they have something to gain from it, right? Or too much to lose. I think like
Speaker:a lot of the pressure that people are building at the grassroots level is to weigh on the
Speaker:other side. So although you might lose that gain. whatever that economic gain might have
Speaker:been from aiding Israel's genocide. But you also have that political capital loss. So there
Speaker:has to be a balance. And it's trying to create that threshold where it's just not politically
Speaker:safe anymore. No matter how much you have to win, you've lost too much. You've lost your
Speaker:base. Biden is an issue, but people can see it with Trudeau right in the polls, slipping
Speaker:so terribly below Poliev. It's, it was a gamble that they really have lost on it. And unfortunately,
Speaker:in both the Canada and US elections will likely end up with the ultimate evils. We've had these
Speaker:discussions many times before, but because these folks have held on for so long and made bad
Speaker:calls, we're gonna end up with even shittier governments. There's a certain sense, and I
Speaker:don't exactly, like I'm not happy to convey this sense, but there's a certain. helplessness
Speaker:where it's like, well, what the fuck do we do? You know, I don't exactly know. Barring a paradigm
Speaker:shift of, I don't know, I don't know. I really like, the US is gonna make some money here.
Speaker:They're gonna gain further control. And you know, it's a useful lesson. It's a useful lesson,
Speaker:but we've had plenty of useful lessons, you know? And that's the frustrating thing is like.
Speaker:looking at all of these terrible conflicts, terrible genocides, terrible things all over
Speaker:the world, it always ends the same way, doesn't it? Until there's something substantially different.
Speaker:And the thing is that for the US control, it doesn't mean sovereignty for Palestine. It
Speaker:doesn't mean that the Palestinian cause wins. It just means that maybe Israel has to back
Speaker:down a bit. Nobody knows, I guess, what the end result is. will be yet. But I guess if
Speaker:we look to especially Iraq and the use of US contractors to essentially act like military
Speaker:personnel in the end and to assert authority over the population in the same way, it's a
Speaker:common tactic used by the military. And I think we raised this issue, one, because being aware
Speaker:of everything is always just like half the battle, but two, to proceed with caution in the same
Speaker:way grifters like Sean King can walk into a community in crisis and be glorified and all
Speaker:his mistakes kind of forgotten. I think sometimes, but some people in desperate situations like
Speaker:the Palestinians are right now will openly accept any assistance possible and not have time.
Speaker:to be cautious. And I don't actually know what the answer is, like, what do we do about this?
Speaker:But surely at least applying a lens of the same colonial experience that the US has repeated
Speaker:over and over, imperialist tactic that we go in with at least open eyes and with warnings
Speaker:to our Palestinian comrades that not all aid is equal.