Well, hello there YouTube Success podcast, welcome to another episode.
Speaker:We're talking about a couple of things here.
Speaker:Largely, we're going to talk about Shorts, but I just wanted to say
Speaker:if you're watching on YouTube, what do you think to my new setup?
Speaker:I assume you've not seen this new setup, but you may have.
Speaker:I may have talked about it before as well I just forget all the time what
Speaker:i'm talking about on this podcast.
Speaker:But the way I see it is, if you come into a podcast at a different episode,
Speaker:you may not have heard it already, so I may as well just repeat myself
Speaker:over, and over, and over again.
Speaker:Sorry for those of you that have listened to all the episodes and
Speaker:you're like, Matt, you're talking about the same stuff all the time.
Speaker:Well, I may have talked about the Shorts Challenge before in an
Speaker:episode and it was probably a little bit of a promo to say, hey, go to
Speaker:shortschallenge.co.uk and you can get involved in the 28-Day Shorts Challenge.
Speaker:But what I wanted to do today is talk a little bit about the effect Shorts has
Speaker:had on all the platforms and I wanted to give you a little bit of a secret
Speaker:tip and a hack that I found recently so I'm really excited about that.
Speaker:I'm going to tell you about that later on.
Speaker:But before we get into that and before we talk about Shorts, I just wanted to
Speaker:talk to you about the podcast in general.
Speaker:Right now, we're sitting on about 1500 downloads of the podcast since
Speaker:we started, and one thing that's, one thing's happening that firstly, I'm
Speaker:really grateful for, but also I was a bit surprised about and the thing that's
Speaker:happening is the more people I talk to, the more people that come towards me from
Speaker:whether they connect to me on Instagram or on Facebook, or they join in groups
Speaker:that I've got, or I've got a membership, a little group membership for business
Speaker:owners, the more people I talk to, the more they're saying Matt, I listened
Speaker:to your podcast this week, or I've been binge, binge watching, binge listening.
Speaker:I don't know what the term is your podcast and I just I'm just delighted
Speaker:and I'm so grateful and appreciative of those of you that are coming and you're
Speaker:listening to the episodes and you're paying attention and you're consuming
Speaker:all the things because your desire to start or to grow your channel is deep
Speaker:rooted and you're like, this is it.
Speaker:I'm going to do this this year.
Speaker:And you're coming and you're consuming this stuff and I really appreciate it.
Speaker:What I will ask you though is if you do like it, please go to whatever
Speaker:platform you're on and leave like a comment, a little note to say,
Speaker:review, you know, really like it.
Speaker:Remember I said in the last episode, I think it was the last one or the
Speaker:one before, leave a five star rating, five out of five or 10 out of 10.
Speaker:If you, depending on the platform, I assume they're all five out of five.
Speaker:I just don't know.
Speaker:I just don't know.
Speaker:But if you could, or share it with a friend, you know, share this with someone.
Speaker:Um that you think would be interested in this stuff as well.
Speaker:So that's it, but I didn't expect that effect of a podcast.
Speaker:I just wanted to do it to be consistent I wanted to be able to have a another kind
Speaker:of video published on my YouTube channel, something that would keep me, keep the
Speaker:momentum going and keep me consistent and that's this has really done that, which
Speaker:leads nicely into the Shorts Challenge as well, because what we did with the Shorts
Speaker:Challenge is, we started it on Monday the 8th of January and we're about a week in.
Speaker:To be honest with you, I've not been majorly consistent with it.
Speaker:I just like the group of people are doing that challenge.
Speaker:I have found it difficult even to do a 1-minute video.
Speaker:Can you believe a 1-minute video is difficult to do every day?
Speaker:I've not done much planning, all of that kind of stuff.
Speaker:So of course I've fell into some pitfalls.
Speaker:But this is not a negative episode.
Speaker:This is a positive episode.
Speaker:Because I wanted to tell you about some of the positive things that have happened.
Speaker:The first thing is, I did 5, I think 5 or 6 days in a row consistently.
Speaker:And then I looked at the stats across the platforms.
Speaker:And now this is not going to be mind blowing.
Speaker:You're not going to be like, Oh my god, Matt, you're so viral.
Speaker:You're so viral with your 2500 views.
Speaker:You're not going to be like that.
Speaker:But the way I see it, and the way I lead my life as a YouTuber, as a video expert,
Speaker:as a business owner is, when you see those people that have got a million
Speaker:subscribers, or 100,000 subscribers, they didn't get there overnight.
Speaker:There's unicorns of course, there's some of them that happen to publish,
Speaker:somebody told me yesterday about a guy that's got 14 videos and he's
Speaker:on almost a million subscribers.
Speaker:Of course there's times where you can blow up and I do call them unicorns
Speaker:and you know, because it's so unlikely.
Speaker:And I think you can prep as much as you like, but if you said to somebody, I've
Speaker:got a video and I know it's going to go viral, I think you're probably lying.
Speaker:There's no way you can know.
Speaker:And even as goes as far as to say Mr.
Speaker:Beast couldn't say that the problem that the advantage he has is he already
Speaker:has a whole view of, a whole brand equity is built up of viewers that
Speaker:will consume anything he puts out, whereas he didn't have at the start
Speaker:and you won't have at the start either.
Speaker:So, when I'm sharing this stuff and I'm sharing the results, don't sit there
Speaker:and go these numbers are pants, kind of prefacing all of this to kind of
Speaker:say, please don't tell me the numbers are crap, , because I'm looking for
Speaker:percentages of growth and I'm looking for what positive impact does it have and what
Speaker:can I learn from this to do next time?
Speaker:Okay.
Speaker:How can we improve?
Speaker:All YouTubers that are sensible, that are anywhere on their journey will
Speaker:always say if you can just improve by 1%, by one point even, from this
Speaker:video to the next or from this piece of consistency to the next, you will
Speaker:get there in the end, all right.
Speaker:And the end might be two years.
Speaker:It might be five years.
Speaker:It might be six months if you're super super lucky, maybe strategically lucky.
Speaker:Okay.
Speaker:So what happened then?
Speaker:So I published five videos, one of fever and I published
Speaker:them across all the platforms.
Speaker:Now, if I go and take a look in YouTube, I'll go and look right now.
Speaker:And we'll just take a look at some of the impacts of this.
Speaker:And like I say, the numbers are not amazing, but I want to
Speaker:give you some context about it.
Speaker:So.
Speaker:for the most part, a lot of the videos I did didn't really land very well at all.
Speaker:They got into the first, what is like the first test that each of the
Speaker:platforms do, and they said, okay, we've tested it with 300 odd people.
Speaker:It's not got viral potential and so we're not gonna test it into the next group.
Speaker:So if you don't know how it works, they test you in a small group,
Speaker:maybe a thousand people, see how it's working, passes that test and more
Speaker:people watch it or then put you in a group of people that 1000 to 50,000
Speaker:and then after that, 50,000 to 100,000, 200,000 to 1,000,000, and so on, so on.
Speaker:So they test you first.
Speaker:So if you're stuck in sort of the 500 or less views range, it's
Speaker:because you can consider that your video didn't pass the test.
Speaker:The algorithm tested it And the test failed they said, no actually this is
Speaker:not got the potential that we think it has, which is okay because actually
Speaker:during that test, you can still pick up views and you can still pick up
Speaker:subscribers and all of that good stuff.
Speaker:So there's a guarantee that they will test it.
Speaker:Now if you're 700 views, it might be that it's even not been tested yet
Speaker:or there's something else going on.
Speaker:It's very unlikely that you'll get anything less than a
Speaker:couple of a hundred views.
Speaker:So if I take a look at my analytics for the last 7 days, shall we make
Speaker:this a bit more interactive to show..
Speaker:Oh, it's just dropped off now, because it's just gone over 7 days, so the
Speaker:stats are even less than they were.
Speaker:Can I do a custom range here?
Speaker:Let's do the last 10 days then.
Speaker:I definitely started on the 8th, we know this.
Speaker:And so we'll go from the 7th to the 17th, to today.
Speaker:I can't show you, so I'm gonna just talk you through it.
Speaker:So new viewers, this is people that have never seen any of my content before.
Speaker:When I started doing the Shorts during that period of
Speaker:time, I had 1800 new viewers.
Speaker:Now, if you think about this and this is with the Shorts, we had a
Speaker:thousand with the long form content as well, which presumably is the
Speaker:podcast that we're putting out.
Speaker:So we had 1,800 new viewers now the way I described it to someone
Speaker:yesterday as I said, imagine you could go and speak in front of 1,800 people
Speaker:an event like you'd be amazed by speaking in front of it 1,800 people.
Speaker:That's 1,800 new viewers and then we had returning viewers, so
Speaker:there's about 352 returning viewers.
Speaker:So this is probably subscribers, it's probably people I'm connected
Speaker:with that have not subscribed yet but they've probably watched Consumer
Speaker:Review quite a bit of my content.
Speaker:And so the total views was 2,500 and I got a couple, just 2 or
Speaker:3 extra subscribers, right.
Speaker:So the numbers are really low.
Speaker:But this is five minutes, five, yeah, five minutes of content across five days.
Speaker:So one minute of content across five days.
Speaker:To me, that feels really encouraging.
Speaker:That feels to me like my test for the Shorts Challenge has
Speaker:resulted in some positivity.
Speaker:Now if I take a look across this, across the other platforms as well, and if I take
Speaker:a look across Instagram, and if I take a look on TikTok, I'll also find that I've
Speaker:had this similar sort of impact as well.
Speaker:So let's focus on Instagram reels first.
Speaker:I had 5 videos that I posted, and these are the numbers
Speaker:from oldest to newest, right?
Speaker:91 views, 118 views, 297 views, 80 views, 59 views.
Speaker:So I'd say they probably didn't work very well on Instagram.
Speaker:I wonder if the audience is different on Instagram.
Speaker:I've still got 1000 followers on Instagram.
Speaker:So they're people that know me.
Speaker:There'd be a plenty of people there that would have seen that
Speaker:they would have known me but they didn't work very well those videos.
Speaker:So we need to tweak the style of video I think for Instagram.
Speaker:Now if you look at TikTok, with those same videos in the same order,
Speaker:it was 506, 380, 316, 347, 357.
Speaker:So I'd say that TikTok is probably giving me a bigger test audience to show that to.
Speaker:Again, it didn't think the videos were worthy of being viral or getting more
Speaker:viewers beyond the first thousand.
Speaker:But at least it tried with a couple of hundred people.
Speaker:So again, just need to tweak the content.
Speaker:We need to try and find a better hooks or do something different to improve that.
Speaker:It's also saying to me, now, this is an interesting thing
Speaker:because I'm aiming for a minute.
Speaker:Potentially, TikTok is moving beyond the 1-minute point because it's telling me
Speaker:there, try videos longer than 1 minute.
Speaker:Viewers spend 90% more time watching longer videos, 90% more time.
Speaker:So is it now that TikTok is saying, actually we want longer videos.
Speaker:So, how can I build that into my strategy when I really want to do
Speaker:1-minute videos for YouTube Shorts?
Speaker:Okay?
Speaker:Interesting point I think but then what's really interesting, the most interesting
Speaker:thing about all of this, when I was testing this, it's Facebook Reels, because
Speaker:I didn't know Facebook Reels existed.
Speaker:I thought, when I published to Instagram, it would publish to my Facebook
Speaker:Reels as well, or Story, or whatever.
Speaker:I wasn't really sure about it.
Speaker:So, and somebody had mentioned to me, I think it was Austin, one of our
Speaker:speakers at Tubefest, Austin Armstrong.
Speaker:He said to me a little while ago, he said, Matt Facebook Reels are killing
Speaker:it like if you put content on Facebook, they're really paying attention to that.
Speaker:They're really doubling down on that.
Speaker:So if you were going to do anything you should do those and of course, I just
Speaker:ignored him like all people I ignore with this good advice and just ignored
Speaker:him and did what I wanted anyway.
Speaker:But here's the results and I only posted 3 videos and I didn't even though really
Speaker:that I did it that way and it's so I didn't really put any effort into it
Speaker:as well so I don't think I did that.
Speaker:I wonder if I can see.
Speaker:There's no real cover photo there.
Speaker:That's got they have got captions on them to be fair.
Speaker:But if the 3 videos I had,
Speaker:I had one that's 500 views, one that's 1,500 and one that's 165
Speaker:and the benefit that that's had is I've had more people then start
Speaker:following my profile on Facebook.
Speaker:And if I'm really truly honest, the thing that I need the most, because I sell
Speaker:the most on there is Facebook followers.
Speaker:I need to build that audience up.
Speaker:Now Austin is a great example.
Speaker:Austin has 960 odd thousand people following him on Facebook, so it
Speaker:should have been a good indication because he's rebuilding his Tiktok
Speaker:and a few other things as well.
Speaker:But it's a good indication of how much you can use facebook reels not instagram reels
Speaker:facebook reels to increase your followers which then of course you can move those
Speaker:followers to other platforms as well So I think in summary for all of this.
Speaker:And I hope this has been useful for you, please do let me know, find me
Speaker:on the socials and let me know if you've managed to watch this episode.
Speaker:I think in summary that I need to continue to create Shorts content.
Speaker:This is me, my self-talk now, I'm talking to myself.
Speaker:Matt, you need to continue to create shorts content, I
Speaker:think it's a great experiment.
Speaker:I need to focus on Facebook Reels as a platform to create more of this content, I
Speaker:think possibly I've got more brand equity.
Speaker:Brand equity is when you first go out in the world and start a
Speaker:business, nobody knows who you are, what you deliver, or whatever.
Speaker:As you deliver value to people, they have goodwill for you, right?
Speaker:And you start to build up some brand equity.
Speaker:So I think possibly, the reason why it's working on Facebook more
Speaker:is because my audience on Facebook have a couple of thousand people,
Speaker:already know, like, and trust me.
Speaker:The audience on YouTube doesn't really know who I am yet.
Speaker:Even with a thou, what am I on?
Speaker:Almost 3000 subscribers.
Speaker:The people on Twitter, the people on Instagram, they
Speaker:don't really know who I am yet.
Speaker:They're still getting to learn that stuff, whereas I've got a
Speaker:lot of brand equity on Facebook.
Speaker:So it's potentially why it had that viral, viral, 1500 viral.
Speaker:It's not viral, is it?
Speaker:But why it had a more, a bigger audience, even though some
Speaker:of those were new followers.
Speaker:So I need to double down on that and I think really I just need to
Speaker:continue the experiment because that's what the Shorts challenge was for me
Speaker:really was an experiment, what results could I get if I was consistent?
Speaker:Of course, I fell off the wagon after 5 days and I need to get back on it today.
Speaker:So I'm going to start right now after this film in this episode, I'm going to
Speaker:go and film another Shorts and make sure that I look at, think, and this is the
Speaker:last thing I'll say on this episode is, make sure I look at what I'm consuming.
Speaker:What is hooking me in and do some research.
Speaker:What's hooking me in, what's interesting to me, what's keeping
Speaker:me watching the videos, and try and create more content that's like that.
Speaker:I love doing the list item list listicle-type content.
Speaker:So the 3 best video editing tools, the 3 best cameras, the 3 best whatever.
Speaker:I think they're really good when I've looked at Austin stuff Austin when I
Speaker:went to social media marketing world.
Speaker:He said look, just copy me, do what I'm doing because it's working.
Speaker:He does listicles around AI tools, obviously AI is hot topic at the moment.
Speaker:But I want to keep it around video, that's my expertise.
Speaker:That's the thing that I want to get a bigger audience on so I'm going to keep
Speaker:it around video, keep it around editing, content repurposing, and all that kind
Speaker:of stuff and just focus on the listicles.
Speaker:So again in a couple of weeks time, I'm gonna report back and I've set myself up
Speaker:now because I have to come back to you and report back by the end of January.
Speaker:Again, not making this at all evergreen.
Speaker:Alright, thanks so much really appreciate you listening to this episode.
Speaker:Don't forget to leave us a review and share it with your friends.
Speaker:Alright, that's me.
Speaker:Matt Hughes, King of Video.
Speaker:Take care for now.
Speaker:See you next time.