Welcome to Barbecue Nation with JT and Leanne.
Speaker AAfter Hours, the conversation that continued after the show was done.
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Speaker AWelcome to After Hours here on the Nation.
Speaker AThis is the fun part of the show.
Speaker AWell, all our shows are fun, but this is the fun part of the show.
Speaker AOkay.
Speaker BAnd the end.
Speaker BAnd our guests really don't know what the questions are ahead of time.
Speaker ANo.
Speaker AAnd that's true.
Speaker AAnd they're totally.
Speaker AI don't want to say.
Speaker AIrrelevant, irrelevant, irrelevant.
Speaker ABut they may be irreverent.
Speaker AHow's that?
Speaker AOkay.
Speaker AYeah.
Speaker AAre you ready?
Speaker CYes, sir.
Speaker AOkay, easy one first.
Speaker AIf you could cook for and dine with a historical figure, who would it be and what would be on the menu?
Speaker CA historical figure?
Speaker CAnybody I would want to cook for?
Speaker CProbably chef Leah Chase out of New Orleans.
Speaker CKnow if you guys familiar with her.
Speaker CBut also on the menu, I would want to impress her with my fried chicken.
Speaker CI know that she's known for her fried chicken and, like, gumbo.
Speaker CI would try to do, like, my version of that because I like to add smoky elements to my gumbo, like smoked crab legs and stuff.
Speaker CSo I would try to impress her with those two things, and then there would be some food with, like, some Asian cuisine.
Speaker CFun fact.
Speaker CI studied in China for, like, a month during my culinary studies, and so I love bringing in Asian flavors and mixing it with barbecue as well.
Speaker CAnd so I would try to impress her with some things like that that I learned in China.
Speaker BThat's good.
Speaker AThere you go.
Speaker AWhat would you say your success to failure ratio is when you're creating a new dish?
Speaker CLike, 75.
Speaker C25.
Speaker CI fail 75% of the time, and 25% of the time, I'm stel.
Speaker AOkay.
Speaker BYou make up for it.
Speaker COkay.
Speaker AYeah.
Speaker CI mean, like I said earlier, I'm not afraid to try anything.
Speaker CAnd I'm like, yeah, that didn't work.
Speaker CYeah, that didn't work.
Speaker CAnd so, Yeah, a solid 25, 30% of the time.
Speaker CI'm your girl.
Speaker CI'm shining.
Speaker AThat sounds decent.
Speaker ALike that.
Speaker AIf Leanne declared you supreme ruler of barbecue for one week, just one week, what would you, as the supreme ruler, decree?
Speaker COkay, that's a great question.
Speaker CAs the ruler, I would decree.
Speaker CWhat would I decree?
Speaker COh, that's a tough one.
Speaker CThat's a tough one.
Speaker AWait till you get the next One.
Speaker CWhat's one of my pet peeves?
Speaker BYeah, that's a good way to look at it.
Speaker CWhat's one of my pet peeves?
Speaker CI would decrease.
Speaker COh, oh, here you go.
Speaker CI would decree that if you are taking a picture or video of your brisket that you can't smash it down.
Speaker BHallelujah.
Speaker CThat's not impressive to me.
Speaker CSo that's what I would decree.
Speaker CYou cannot press down your brisket.
Speaker AWasn't it.
Speaker AWasn't it?
Speaker AJohn Marcus, when he was on the show, said something like that.
Speaker AAnd he said they.
Speaker AThey cut into it and then they squeeze.
Speaker AAnd I won't.
Speaker AWhat he said the adjective he used.
Speaker ASqueeze all juice out of it.
Speaker ACouldn't agree more.
Speaker AOkay.
Speaker AWhat does a fantasy day for Michelle Wallace look like?
Speaker COh, that's a.
Speaker CI dream of this day often.
Speaker CBut, yes, I would wake up in probably another country on a vacation.
Speaker CI would sleep in.
Speaker CI would find somewhere that is serving some good, like, hot bowl of noodles or some tacos.
Speaker CI would drink that with some beer or some champagne.
Speaker CAnd then how else would I end the day?
Speaker AI would have a pedicure or something.
Speaker CYeah.
Speaker CMani, pedi, massage.
Speaker CAnd then I would just find more food to eat.
Speaker CThere you go.
Speaker CThere you go.
Speaker BSounds like a good time.
Speaker AIf you could erase one mistake from your past, Michelle, what would it be?
Speaker COh, that's a lovely question.
Speaker ASome people don't think so.
Speaker CNo.
Speaker CI mean, obviously our mistakes get us to where we are, if you are able to learn from it.
Speaker ARight.
Speaker CBut it's.
Speaker CSo that is a hard one, because then how can I take something away?
Speaker CBut I would focus on the time where I was just too shy or having so much fear that it stifled me.
Speaker CAnd I feel like at the very beginning of my career, that was me.
Speaker CLike, I was, you know, a little.
Speaker CLike, I was afraid to speak up.
Speaker CI was a little afraid to kind of do the things right.
Speaker CThat puts you in position.
Speaker CI would take that away.
Speaker CSo I don't know if there was one mistake that I made specifically, but I know that there were times where I've been looked over because I've been so kind of shy and reserved and afraid to speak up.
Speaker AOr were you two.
Speaker CNo, I was in my 20s.
Speaker CI was just, you know, going probably too far, sharing too much.
Speaker CYou know, as a twin.
Speaker CLike, my twin was she growing up, she was the track star, and she was a thing, and I was more reserved and just.
Speaker CAnd so that bled over into my 20s, and there was a moment, there was a time where I was just kind of, like, shy and reserved.
Speaker AOkay.
Speaker AAll right.
Speaker AWe'll take your word for it.
Speaker AIf we put your skills to music, what would the music be?
Speaker CSomething of Stevie Wonders.
Speaker CI listen to him all the time in the kitchen.
Speaker AIs that your guitar?
Speaker CNo, that's my boyfriend's guitar.
Speaker CI don't know how to play.
Speaker COkay.
Speaker CBut I did.
Speaker CI played the violin for, like, three years in high.
Speaker CIn middle school.
Speaker AOkay.
Speaker AAll right.
Speaker AJust.
Speaker AJust checking.
Speaker AIf you were an animal, what animal would you be?
Speaker CIf I were an animal, I would be.
Speaker CI don't know.
Speaker CThat's.
Speaker CIf I were an animal, I would be probably.
Speaker CI'd probably be, like, a bear.
Speaker CStrong.
Speaker CI look cuddly, but, like, strong and, you know, can attack too.
Speaker CYeah.
Speaker AOkay.
Speaker CAll right.
Speaker AAll right.
Speaker AWhat's your least favorite food to cook?
Speaker CTurkey.
Speaker BThat was quick.
Speaker CThat was very quick.
Speaker CI.
Speaker CYou know, and I've cooked a lot of turkey in my life, but I never am.
Speaker CJust.
Speaker CI just think it's such a boring protein.
Speaker CAnd I don't care what you.
Speaker CIf you fry it, smoke it, bake it, like, I just think it's a boring protein, that's all.
Speaker AI think the best thing you can do to have fun with the turkey is drop it out of a helicopter when it's frozen.
Speaker AThere you go.
Speaker AOkay.
Speaker AJust a couple more here.
Speaker AWould you say you're.
Speaker AI know the answer to this, and I know Leanne does too.
Speaker AWould you say you're more of a sweatshirt or a formal wear girl?
Speaker COh, sweatshirt.
Speaker CGive me a hoodie.
Speaker CYeah.
Speaker AWhat's one thing you miss about your 20s?
Speaker COh, the amount of bills that I didn't have in my 20s was great.
Speaker AThere you go.
Speaker AWhen you retire, what do you want to do?
Speaker AI mean, that's like 200 years from now.
Speaker ABut.
Speaker CWhen I retire, I probably will still be cooking.
Speaker CI don't know.
Speaker CWhat would I want to do?
Speaker CIt's hard, man.
Speaker CI can't see myself not working unless, like, I have a crazy amount of money in the bank.
Speaker ARight.
Speaker CBut I still.
Speaker CI don't know.
Speaker CI would probably still do something where I'm interacting with people in some way, so maybe I'd be, like a tour guide of restaurants or something, you know?
Speaker CYeah, yeah, yeah.
Speaker AOkay, two more.
Speaker AWhat's your favorite movie?
Speaker CMy favorite.
Speaker COh, my favorite movie is probably.
Speaker COh, it's probably like Devil's where it wears Prada kind of.
Speaker CI watch it all the time.
Speaker CAnd then this movie called Life.
Speaker CThat is just so funny.
Speaker CIt's hilarious.
Speaker CI love that one, too.
Speaker AOkay, last question.
Speaker AWhat would your last Meal be if you were on death row.
Speaker CProbably fried chicken, champagne and French fries or something.
Speaker AYeah, you can eat as much as you want.
Speaker AYou're not going to put on any weight at that point.
Speaker BWho cares?
Speaker CI have a crazy addiction to fried chicken.
Speaker CIt could be Korean fried chicken, Southern fried chicken.
Speaker CIf it's fried chicken, who do you.
Speaker BThink makes the best fried chicken?
Speaker BWhat's the best fried chicken chicken you've ever had besides your own?
Speaker CWho makes the best fried chicken?
Speaker CI'm going to start a war here.
Speaker CThere's this Korean fried chicken here in Houston that I love.
Speaker CIt's called Dakin Bop.
Speaker CIt's just so crispy and flavorful to the bone.
Speaker CBut I like simple Popeyes, to be honest with you.
Speaker BI like Popeyes, too.
Speaker BAnd I did a food styling commercial for them last year.
Speaker CYeah.
Speaker BAnd they actually, you.
Speaker BThey make all.
Speaker BThey batter it there in the store.
Speaker BIt's amazing what they go through to make their chicken.
Speaker BIt's the real deal.
Speaker CYeah.
Speaker CI can appreciate good Popeyes.
Speaker CGood hot Popeyes.
Speaker BI agree.
Speaker AIt's not Colonel Sanders anymore.
Speaker CNo, no, no.
Speaker AMichelle, thank you for being with us.
Speaker AYou've been a delight and continued success.
Speaker BYou've worked hard for it, and I can tell your hard worker through and.
Speaker CThrough, so thank you, Ms.
Speaker CLeanne, listen, you know, I bow down to the great.
Speaker CYou definitely are an amazing and inspirational and, you know, you keep us women going, man.
Speaker CYou set the trial, you set the bar very, very high, and I appreciate that.
Speaker BOh, well, thank you much.
Speaker AYes, she does.
Speaker AShe's not very tall, but she can get up there, I'll tell you that.
Speaker CNot in her stature, but she's tall in her capability.
Speaker AYes, she is.
Speaker BThank you.
Speaker AAll right, we're going to get out of here.
Speaker AWe want to thank Michelle Wallace for being with us and, of course, Leanne for being this and putting up with me all these years so far.
Speaker AAnd we will do it again next week right here on the Nation.
Speaker ARemember our motto, turn it, don't burn it.
Speaker ATake care, everybody.