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Welcome to Barbecue Nation with JT and Leanne.

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After Hours, the conversation that continued after the show was done.

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Hey, everybody, it's jt and this is a special version of Barbecue Nation.

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It is brought to you in part by Painted Hills Natural Beef.

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That's Painted Hills Natural Beef.

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Welcome to After Hours here on the Nation.

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This is the fun part of the show.

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Well, all our shows are fun, but this is the fun part of the show.

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Okay.

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And the end.

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And our guests really don't know what the questions are ahead of time.

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No.

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And that's true.

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And they're totally.

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I don't want to say.

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Irrelevant, irrelevant, irrelevant.

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But they may be irreverent.

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How's that?

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Okay.

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Yeah.

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Are you ready?

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Yes, sir.

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Okay, easy one first.

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If you could cook for and dine with a historical figure, who would it be and what would be on the menu?

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A historical figure?

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Anybody I would want to cook for?

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Probably chef Leah Chase out of New Orleans.

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Know if you guys familiar with her.

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But also on the menu, I would want to impress her with my fried chicken.

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I know that she's known for her fried chicken and, like, gumbo.

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I would try to do, like, my version of that because I like to add smoky elements to my gumbo, like smoked crab legs and stuff.

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So I would try to impress her with those two things, and then there would be some food with, like, some Asian cuisine.

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Fun fact.

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I studied in China for, like, a month during my culinary studies, and so I love bringing in Asian flavors and mixing it with barbecue as well.

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And so I would try to impress her with some things like that that I learned in China.

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That's good.

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There you go.

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What would you say your success to failure ratio is when you're creating a new dish?

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Like, 75.

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25.

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I fail 75% of the time, and 25% of the time, I'm stel.

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Okay.

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You make up for it.

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Okay.

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Yeah.

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I mean, like I said earlier, I'm not afraid to try anything.

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And I'm like, yeah, that didn't work.

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Yeah, that didn't work.

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And so, Yeah, a solid 25, 30% of the time.

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I'm your girl.

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I'm shining.

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That sounds decent.

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Like that.

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If Leanne declared you supreme ruler of barbecue for one week, just one week, what would you, as the supreme ruler, decree?

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Okay, that's a great question.

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As the ruler, I would decree.

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What would I decree?

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Oh, that's a tough one.

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That's a tough one.

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Wait till you get the next One.

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What's one of my pet peeves?

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Yeah, that's a good way to look at it.

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What's one of my pet peeves?

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I would decrease.

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Oh, oh, here you go.

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I would decree that if you are taking a picture or video of your brisket that you can't smash it down.

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Hallelujah.

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That's not impressive to me.

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So that's what I would decree.

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You cannot press down your brisket.

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Wasn't it.

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Wasn't it?

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John Marcus, when he was on the show, said something like that.

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And he said they.

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They cut into it and then they squeeze.

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And I won't.

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What he said the adjective he used.

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Squeeze all juice out of it.

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Couldn't agree more.

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Okay.

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What does a fantasy day for Michelle Wallace look like?

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Oh, that's a.

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I dream of this day often.

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But, yes, I would wake up in probably another country on a vacation.

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I would sleep in.

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I would find somewhere that is serving some good, like, hot bowl of noodles or some tacos.

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I would drink that with some beer or some champagne.

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And then how else would I end the day?

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I would have a pedicure or something.

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Yeah.

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Mani, pedi, massage.

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And then I would just find more food to eat.

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There you go.

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There you go.

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Sounds like a good time.

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If you could erase one mistake from your past, Michelle, what would it be?

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Oh, that's a lovely question.

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Some people don't think so.

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No.

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I mean, obviously our mistakes get us to where we are, if you are able to learn from it.

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Right.

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But it's.

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So that is a hard one, because then how can I take something away?

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But I would focus on the time where I was just too shy or having so much fear that it stifled me.

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And I feel like at the very beginning of my career, that was me.

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Like, I was, you know, a little.

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Like, I was afraid to speak up.

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I was a little afraid to kind of do the things right.

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That puts you in position.

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I would take that away.

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So I don't know if there was one mistake that I made specifically, but I know that there were times where I've been looked over because I've been so kind of shy and reserved and afraid to speak up.

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Or were you two.

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No, I was in my 20s.

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I was just, you know, going probably too far, sharing too much.

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You know, as a twin.

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Like, my twin was she growing up, she was the track star, and she was a thing, and I was more reserved and just.

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And so that bled over into my 20s, and there was a moment, there was a time where I was just kind of, like, shy and reserved.

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Okay.

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All right.

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We'll take your word for it.

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If we put your skills to music, what would the music be?

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Something of Stevie Wonders.

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I listen to him all the time in the kitchen.

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Is that your guitar?

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No, that's my boyfriend's guitar.

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I don't know how to play.

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Okay.

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But I did.

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I played the violin for, like, three years in high.

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In middle school.

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Okay.

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All right.

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Just.

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Just checking.

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If you were an animal, what animal would you be?

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If I were an animal, I would be.

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I don't know.

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That's.

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If I were an animal, I would be probably.

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I'd probably be, like, a bear.

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Strong.

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I look cuddly, but, like, strong and, you know, can attack too.

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Yeah.

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Okay.

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All right.

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All right.

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What's your least favorite food to cook?

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Turkey.

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That was quick.

Speaker C

That was very quick.

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I.

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You know, and I've cooked a lot of turkey in my life, but I never am.

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Just.

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I just think it's such a boring protein.

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And I don't care what you.

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If you fry it, smoke it, bake it, like, I just think it's a boring protein, that's all.

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I think the best thing you can do to have fun with the turkey is drop it out of a helicopter when it's frozen.

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There you go.

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Okay.

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Just a couple more here.

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Would you say you're.

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I know the answer to this, and I know Leanne does too.

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Would you say you're more of a sweatshirt or a formal wear girl?

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Oh, sweatshirt.

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Give me a hoodie.

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Yeah.

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What's one thing you miss about your 20s?

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Oh, the amount of bills that I didn't have in my 20s was great.

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There you go.

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When you retire, what do you want to do?

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I mean, that's like 200 years from now.

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But.

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When I retire, I probably will still be cooking.

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I don't know.

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What would I want to do?

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It's hard, man.

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I can't see myself not working unless, like, I have a crazy amount of money in the bank.

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Right.

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But I still.

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I don't know.

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I would probably still do something where I'm interacting with people in some way, so maybe I'd be, like a tour guide of restaurants or something, you know?

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Yeah, yeah, yeah.

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Okay, two more.

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What's your favorite movie?

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My favorite.

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Oh, my favorite movie is probably.

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Oh, it's probably like Devil's where it wears Prada kind of.

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I watch it all the time.

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And then this movie called Life.

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That is just so funny.

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It's hilarious.

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I love that one, too.

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Okay, last question.

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What would your last Meal be if you were on death row.

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Probably fried chicken, champagne and French fries or something.

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Yeah, you can eat as much as you want.

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You're not going to put on any weight at that point.

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Who cares?

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I have a crazy addiction to fried chicken.

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It could be Korean fried chicken, Southern fried chicken.

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If it's fried chicken, who do you.

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Think makes the best fried chicken?

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What's the best fried chicken chicken you've ever had besides your own?

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Who makes the best fried chicken?

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I'm going to start a war here.

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There's this Korean fried chicken here in Houston that I love.

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It's called Dakin Bop.

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It's just so crispy and flavorful to the bone.

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But I like simple Popeyes, to be honest with you.

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I like Popeyes, too.

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And I did a food styling commercial for them last year.

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Yeah.

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And they actually, you.

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They make all.

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They batter it there in the store.

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It's amazing what they go through to make their chicken.

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It's the real deal.

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Yeah.

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I can appreciate good Popeyes.

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Good hot Popeyes.

Speaker B

I agree.

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It's not Colonel Sanders anymore.

Speaker C

No, no, no.

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Michelle, thank you for being with us.

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You've been a delight and continued success.

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You've worked hard for it, and I can tell your hard worker through and.

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Through, so thank you, Ms.

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Leanne, listen, you know, I bow down to the great.

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You definitely are an amazing and inspirational and, you know, you keep us women going, man.

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You set the trial, you set the bar very, very high, and I appreciate that.

Speaker B

Oh, well, thank you much.

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Yes, she does.

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She's not very tall, but she can get up there, I'll tell you that.

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Not in her stature, but she's tall in her capability.

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Yes, she is.

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Thank you.

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All right, we're going to get out of here.

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We want to thank Michelle Wallace for being with us and, of course, Leanne for being this and putting up with me all these years so far.

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And we will do it again next week right here on the Nation.

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Remember our motto, turn it, don't burn it.

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Take care, everybody.