I think we all go through it and it's kind of like burnout

I personally work best under stress

Parker Charles Hodge

that's me bro

business is a reflection of yourself

If you're not doing good the business is not doing good

How are you doing

My employee you know lied and said we cutpn

all of the yards so I when charge everyone's card

15 people are calling me like why did you charge my card you didn't cut my grass

which took us all the way down from doing 20k

18k to$20,000 a month back down to like ten

Yeah cut you in half 10 or 12

That's a horrible bleed

It was awful

You know you've been with someone for five years

you know the majority of that was with you

maybe in a job doing this on the weekends

you star doing this full time

Is that taking a toll

or would you say it was for the best

in terms of your relationship

You know after our conversation

I Kind of thought more of it

and I was remembering our conversations about this

I now truly believe

that it takes two special people to do it

Well like you said with the one that burned you and lied

how could you build a culture where that doesn't happen again

I think a lot of it is just

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Parker Charles Hodge that's me bro

Dude this is Loki part two because we tried to this last week and it did not work out

No I wonder why things got messed up

All you got messed up

I wonder why we have a great location you can't sit here and act like it was perfect

It was not this is much better yeah you think this is much better but Parker I um we're gonna let's try to recap a little bit of what we talked because I think it was good and I think people should listen to it

So let's start where we met where we met

Yes okay so Ricardo has a different memory of this and I don't know why

So basically we met at Landscape Summit 20 23 23

Yes so I was sitting with Aiden our other host and we just happened to sit next to each other while we were doing the conference

And then I was like hey bro you wanna go eat together

Yeah sure it's good

So we went and ate and it was at conference

They had like meals for us and we're standing in line

We go to the line we all sit down

And next you know more and more people show up and they're like hey do you mind if we sit with y'all

We're like no go ahead

Well Carter happened to be one of those people and we got the chit chat and got everyone's phone numbers

And then we're like alright let's plan like a dinner after after we meet like after conference

And you thought

I thought that you just I mean I thought nothing was gonna happen

I think cause I usually like whatever whenever I'm like any of those coffins and like yeah let's go out like later and let's get some food and chat and whatever

Usually nothing happens because someone's wife or like because I'm so tired

I'm gonna go to sleep blah blah blah

So they got whatever maybe they'll text me they won't

We end up texting me and then we texted

Yep so we all went to TGI Fridays TGI Fridays and Ricardo decided we're all talking about our numbers and how we're going and Ricardo decided to bluff a little bit a little bit

I was just projecting haha just creating future what do they call

You're manifesting it you're manifesting future numbers and it ended up working out

So yeah you're about there yeah I'm I am there

Well you said 400

Yeah I'm about there a couple couple thousand couple thousand short but little little low little low but it's okay

So we're basically like main thing we're talking about the other pod that got messed up was just like stop being enemies with the other competitors

Yeah you know like be friends cause we all that's basically how this podcast and how everything came about was like we decide to be friends here

We're like alright you know let's learn off of each other because we have different insights

Yeah cause you don't know what you don't know exactly

And I think well I think one of the main reasons why we worked out so well you know us and Aiden is because we're like completely different markets right

Which is great

But you know you being six hours away from me him also being six hours away maybe in the middle point it kind of does work out cause we're all we're all still in the East Coast

We're all kind of like same grass

I've seen like market types right maybe a little different in terms of like demographics and same relatives of incomes same relatives

So there's a lot of there's a lot of variables that are you they're pretty constant

So whatever is that we talk about usually works out to like when we say don't be enemies we mainly say that as in from our perspective of like different markets

But if you are in the same market as somebody else you know I think it might be a little different because you are competing as that person

But at the end of the day if your work is big enough to house multiple people then you should be fine

Like the thing is it's really not it's not really a competition in my opinion because even where like I have four other competitors in my area that I communicate with on a regular basis

Um and a lot of times we send each other work

Like if he's too busy he sends me something

If I'm too busy I send him something stuff like that

Like we always are doing that and we usually call and have conversations and stuff all the time

But like it it there's enough grass out there for people to cut your real competitors the chuck in the the chuck in the truck

That's not even lowballing you you know like for example me me and the one of my other competitors was talking one day and I was like like what do you charge in per hour

You know I was like I'm not I'm not gonna cut throat you I'm not gonna go blow you

Like I wanna figure out what you're charging

So if they call me or you they get the same relative price you know because trucking a truck over here behind us is gonna come in for$20 lower than both of us anyways

Yeah you know like why me and you aren't the competitors

We're just trying to weed out the truck in the trucks that are gonna mow till August get hot and then bounce

Yeah so I I I think it's truly helpful for you and a local competitor to kind of bounce ideas off of and talk to each other

Um the granted you don't have to keep them so close to you

Like just have conversation with them you know um like a good saying keep your keep your friends close your enemies closer

Oh yeah definitely so yeah I think I think that too

And I think the thing that I disagree is that I sisterly don't think trucks and trucks are uh enemies or they're like any kind of competition

Because like they they take themselves out regardless

Right and like for the people that don't know what truck in the truck is it's just that she just like the bottle feeders right like the uh daytime job they have

Yeah it's like their side hustle

We can warriors however you wanna call it and this does not just apply to landscaping

This also applies like any other business type right like everybody starts somewhere and you essentially start out as a truck in a truck which is fine

I mean we all did it right but eventually grow out of it

You know if you stay in there then you know that's like your deal but it's not a real competition cause you know you can't stay at some point they give up at some point the quality goes down and get burned down at some point

The 20 dollar cuts look like a 20 dollar

Yeah so yeah it's they'll go fast but they'll grow so fast that's not good for them for their own for their own good

They do end up taking themselves out

I don't I'm not saying that they're like the biggest threat yeah but I also think that I I think that your your person that's kind of equal with you is also not your problem

Yeah you know like it could just be my area

I mean I would say try it in your guys's areas you know whoever's listening or even you like um I think you guys would find a good common ground and be able to discuss things you know and one of the things that I tell all of them is like I'm not gonna take your employees

And if someone tells me that you're cut that they're cutting your yard or that you are cutting their yard and they want me to give them an estimate I'm going to reach out to you and be like hey look they're not happy with the service this is why

Um if if you don't wanna service them you know that's fine but I'm gonna give you the opportunity to keep your client

You know I'm not gonna tell the client like oh I'm gonna reach out to them let them know how shitty the service are doing and then whatever like I just be like okay you know um I'll go back to the office do some estimating and then I'll give you a call back

I think what it is is just like having an understanding with them

And don't be don't be you know unrealistic

Like you're both cutting grass both doing the same exact thing

Yeah yeah like I've called him a problems and he's helped me just kind of like we do with each other yeah or ideas and like that is just the way that you over time you kind of just grow

Like because you never know maybe that truck in the truck eventually sometimes maybe he wants to get out and he either sells you the clients or he sells you equipment or he gets you out of a pinch or maybe he just wants to work

So he comes and works for you exactly

So the less enemies you have the better and you know it works out in the long term

I don't think there's a reason to have enemies

I don't think either

Just there's healthy competition definitely with like another I've had I've had one enemy and it was just funny more than anything

The Facebook warrior yes the Facebook warrior that made up made up things about how the local Facebook group was ran by one of my family members

And me and that guy who runs it don't even know each other never done work for him nothing

Yeah so anyways it was just a laugh

That was a funny that was a funny arc

It was very hilarious fucking hilarious but tell me how has your season been so far

It's December 14th so this year this is pretty much it you have like maybe like a week and that's it

She has been rough rough rough like every year haha um I don't know just like again and granted this is my second full time season um I've done this for two and a half years now um the half years where I met you at the end of it

Um yeah so one of the one of the big things like you always learn you know if you don't learn while you go you're kind of doing it for nothing

You know so like one of the big things that I Learned my first full time season when I was gonna do this full time was like I focus so heavy on mulch

So March we call mulch Madness

And the only thing I was doing was mulch mulch mulch mulch mulch

And then I didn't realize that hey mowing comes right after mulch

And I didn't do any advertising for mowing

So I went from doing like 20 to 23 thousand dollars a year or 20 twenty to twenty two thousand dollars a month on mulch to doing like six grand and mowing

And I was like woof that's bad woof

So I Learned that the first season Learned a few other things um for spring rush and then this season was uh hiring the right people yeah and not taking a vacation you know right in the middle of spring rush

Oh yeah

Course I got married and had some other stuff go on like the wedding was great

By the way the wedding was fantastic that was good it was great it was fun time and the night before the night after or the wedding night the wedding night that was great

When we all went to Airbnb and yeah got a little tipsy shout out to the Airbnb not gonna lie

It was the hot tub that was probably the best part it was it was only 30 seconds from my house dude

Yeah it was right there right there

So but now we had a blast

Um it was just crazy with like just I just I think I overloaded my plate this season cause I joined joined Augusta um and then had a wedding to plan and then had all that stuff

So technically I'm not even really running as Augusta yet

Like we're wearing the uniform but the business isn't set up under Augusta until January 1st

Yeah cause I had to make a decision of like struggling and putting everyone in the new CPCRM and getting all the cards on file and all that stuff right while I was already going through a dumpster fire or I just wait until I have time in the winter

So I just decided to buy that off when it came

That's kind of genuine

That's kind of like last week of December plan is getting rolled over

Yeah I mean so like the way that I did it was I just went straight for like just cut off the neck as soon as I hit training

And it worked out cause like 2,000 people don't give a shit

You know they really don't give a shit like just cut my fucking grass

You know what I'm saying like do the service that I'm paying you to do

And it worked out long term but I can understand you know everybody does things differently

And plus you do have a lot of shit to do with all your wedding and all that shit

So yeah it makes sense

Yeah I was overloaded

I didn't wanna add more stress you know

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Okay so understanding that the being of the season was kind of a mess with the whole focusing in one time services versus like the recurring service that you should have done which now you know you know you Learned your lesson

What would be kind of the changes that you'll make this season to make sure that you actually get to the goal that you wanna hit

So I kind of started doing that like last season

I Learned from the previous season

Hmm well I guess it was this season is why I implemented it

So I focused more on like yes we're gonna do mulch yes we're gonna do um great I said but the thing that we did differently is I took time to do marketing on both um door hangers

Like while we were doing a mulch job we would do nine arounds which is basically the nine houses around the house that we were servicing

We put door hangers out so wherever we stopped I put door hangers out also we would do door hangers

I would do door hangers in the evening stuff like that which it worked well this year

Cause I went from last season to in 6,000 a month in April to this year

We did$20,000 almost great

So it was like 18 to 20 so around there

Um and then the middle of may I went on a bachelor party and then my employee you know lied and said we cut all of the yards

So when I charge everyone's card and 15 people are calling me like why did you charge my cardio and cut my grass

And then beginning of the season is easy to find someone else

So they switch someone else's service

Right which took us all the way down from doing 2018 to$20,000 a month back down to like ten

Yeah cut you in half 10 or 12

That's a horrible bleed

It was awful

So how to get rid of that guy

Um I could have blamed him for everything but really what it was is I didn't set him up appropriately for when I was gone

Yeah so it was my fault but again he did lie

The last thing he had to do is just tell me like I didn't have time

I didn't get to those last 15

I'd be like okay then when I get back on Monday we'll just hammer him out sunrise the sundown just get him done you know but fortunately that wasn't the case

So I think this year's plan for spring rush is yes let's do mulch in March

Um but also I think what we're gonna do is every day I'm gonna require every employee including myself to do 50 50 door hangers um a day

And we're also gonna do yard signs stuff like that

So this year we're we're gonna I don't know if it's realistic or not but it's a it's a long goal

Um I wanna do some around like three to four hundred thousand somewhere

That right three four hundred what thousand thousand for

Yeah I don't like 26

That's completely realistic

And it's really you and two other guys maybe me and so like maybe two crews

Yeah I have I have everything for it

Yeah you know like the only thing I don't have is the employees and the clients

Hmm you know funds are gonna get them regardless

Yeah this is really about the employees training

Yeah tell me you've had employees here and there

What would you say is the biggest bottleneck when it comes to training really hardworking and trustful employees

Cause like anybody can cut grass anybody can do

What is what it is that you do

But like you said with the one that burned you and lied how could you build a culture where that doesn't happen

Again I think a lot of it is just telling them what the values are and making sure they understand the values

Um so like one of my number one things I tell every brand employee on day one first hour is like if you break something you tell me immediately

You don't wait till the end of the day

You don't wait until next week when the client calls me and I ask you about it like you tell me instantly and the reason that is cause I wanna get ahead of the problem

If you call the client you're like hey I'm sorry we broke your window

Um I'm already gonna I'm gonna come out later this afternoon get measurements go ahead and try to get one on order

Um it looks a lot better than coming home to a broken window

Like call me pissed off

Yeah definitely so shows initiative to the client and makes them trust you more

So one of that one of those things is just like telling them you know like also being a real person like I know that it might be too much work I know that this might happen but if it does happen just let me know and we'll figure out a plan

Like don't lie to me cause I'm gonna find out

Yeah I don't know what his thought was

Yeah you know so it's just part of that and then like training a hard working person

Um it's it's pretty pretty good

Um the only thing is you have to be on them every second because if they if they don't do something that you like or if they do something that you don't like you have to correct it immediately

Cause if you don't it becomes a bad habit and they do it

It's harder to reverse a bad habit than is to teach a good one

Yeah so like even with the way that they weedy the way that they edge the way they mow or anything like that you know I'm on them

Okay next time let's try to do this like instantly

So it's just kind of like that kind of stuff

Yeah that makes sense

So do you think because I kind of sounds like micromanaging

And I know for a fact micromanaging is not good

So do you think it's required at first to kind of set the level of expectation that you want or there's definitely a difference between micromanaging and training

Okay so once I feel comfortable with them and I know that they are doing what I want them to do I let them run

Yeah so I don't micromanage them

But day one like the first week two weeks I am micromanage them micromanaging them because I want them to learn the way that I want them to do things right

Yeah so it's like a faster feedback mechanism for them so they can correct it from the gym

Yeah versus me learning a month in that they're doing something I don't like and then having to be like don't do that

And now it's their natural habit to do the thing I don't like

One of the main things that I Learned this year especially this year was right after like the spring rush

Right so it was like June Julyish cause in June was still pretty busy but July when it's slowed a little bit down I got a little hotter I got the chance to like stop right stop stop look around slow down see how I'm feeling

And I was completely burned out and I realized that most of it was because I went past my personal capacity of everything that I was doing right

I I completely overloaded myself with everything

Now I know that I need to delegate much more which is you know things I were doing this year

Um but I also realized that if I'm not okay the business I gonna be okay right cause if I'm not willing to get up do estimates do sales if I'm not willing to beat the team how it's supposed to be and all that then this is not gonna do it like it's not gonna do well right

So knowing that the business is a reflection of yourself what we think are what are like your experience with that

As like the same example that I went through so you wake up and you don't wanna do anything

Yeah I mean I've done that

I think we all go through it

It's kind of like burnout

Um I work I personally work best under stress

Okay um I don't like when things slow down

I kind of get bored and lazy when things slow down

But if I have too much to do I'm a workaholic you know so I think part of that I'm part of that comes from just like getting lazy and like used to it

Like you're like oh we only got nine yards to cut tomorrow

Like I can sleep in a little bit

Yeah like stuff like that you know you kind of get you kind of get a little lazier but um it doesn't always work doesn't always help

Um um I think one of the things with my business to kind of like get to that 450,000 dollar goal or 4 like 3 to 400,000 dollar goal would be like you're saying to kind of be more trusting

So the guy that I have now that I went through a bunch of I think I went through like six guys this year

Yeah so this kid this kid I call him kid he's 18 but he he works his butt off

You know he shows up every day shout out Colton shout out Colton doesn't doesn't call out doesn't do nothing crazy

Um so part of that is like a good thing

Um next year I think we're gonna this winter before the spring really kicks off I'm gonna do some training sessions with them um and kind of get them trained up on the CRM and have them actually do some like some more stuff to help me out

So if we get to that point you know I'm gonna have him relatively helping manage the guys

Um and i'mma be more focused on sales stuff like that

So him managing the guys would look like um I'll have the route together the night before he'll go through the route with the guys have make sure they have everything and you'll send them off

And if they have a problem with something uh huh they'll probably call him

Yeah and if he'll be like the first filter and if they if he doesn't know then he'll call me

Okay so instead of like a crew lead yeah kind of like a crew lead

Um but again I'll still be in the field as well

So um I think I'll have a guy with him first part of the season probably three of us in a truck

Um then if we get a force if we grow to a force right then I'll have him with one of them and I'll have the other one

Yeah so once I get the third one trained up he'll ride with me or he'll ride with Colton

And then the fourth one I'll train up and then he'll probably rock and roll with me sounds like you gotta figure it out

We'll see we'll see it was a good nothing ever goes according to plan sadly unfortunately you know one of the thing that I wanted to touch on is business wise things can go well right things can go bad whatever you can fix that you can fix that pretty easily usually with money right

There's some things that money can't fix right like whether you're happy whether you're sad how you're doing personally how your relationships are going these like things that money can buy

So how are you doing personally so far with like happiness I guess I said as in like you know we can talk business all day right

But like I said before this is a reflection of yourself

If you're not doing good this is not doing good that's true

How are you doing

Are you doing good

I'm fine I'm chilling you chilling freshly married how is that

How's married life married life's the same bro and you've been living off of her seven years you know we've lived together for five so why take you so long

Oh my god here we go

Why are you taking so long

Five years long time

What happened

You got married at 18

What happened dog

Okay dog we don't even talk about that

Haha you kind of you kind of grow up

You know like I wanted to see how she would be as an adult versus as a fresh adult

Okay because the fresh fresh adults they make stupid mistakes and they learn from them and then they mature

So I wanted to kind of wait to see like how we would be through struggles right before I sealed the deal legally and married her

So we kind of went through all of our fights and all of our big problems that we seen

We were able to come through the other end together

So at that point I was like it's time to time to get married you know like get ready to have kids

So the deal dude how I went so you guys are planning to have kids

When do you think that's gonna happen or when are you planning for that to happen

Probably 2027 another year two years

Yeah are you gonna meet me uncle

Yeah I won't be a dad dude that'd be crazy it would be crazy

Yeah we're kind of waiting cause she graduates in may

Um okay we kind of want her to she mainly wants to be able to be in a job for a little while hmm and then um then have children

But she doesn't wanna just like graduate have a child and then try to get a job

Right you know so it's a smart plan it is it is I wish it wasn't very smart cause I'd be down to have a kid now

But it's not the smartest thing

Well we're gonna wait a little while

That's not the smartest thing now that's if we can we'll wait a little while

That's great I think that I thought about it a lot about like children and family and all that definitely want to do it

Um and I whenever I think of how I'd be like as a dad honestly like sometimes I look at employees and I'm just like you're just like a little kid

Like yeah I train you how to walk

I tell you how to do the thing

I gotta like you know SWAT your hand away when you're doing something you're not supposed to do when you get messed when you when you mess up you get punished

Yeah so and in my personal relationships one of the main things that would whenever I would come back home like when I would be with them or the main I would call like a kind of like a struggle point or a topic of arguments would be that hey I'm not sure not sure the employee that you gotta like you know cut it off

Or like it would be like you know talk to me a little less harsh a little less direct a little more calmly

You know you've been with someone for five years you know the majority of that was with you maybe in a job doing this on the weekends and then eventually you start doing this full time

Has that is that taking a toll or would you say it was for the best in terms of your relationship

Like like switching

Yeah like the whole entrepreneur journey first pros and cons you know like one of the cons of me doing on the weekends was we didn't have any time really together

Um if she was off on the weekends I was out mowing grass

And then when I got home I just wanted to rest cause I knew I had to go to work on Monday

Um so it's it's opened up a majority of my time to focus on cutting grass

Like I'm not worried about trying to do two things right

Um but again there's also times where I work harder doing this and I did just having a job and mowing grass so like she thankfully I kind of got lucky but you know my wife understands Spring Rush is very busy

We are friends almost

You know it's not the case you know I just say that but yeah like I'm I'm friends on her

I'm basically either cutting grass or I'm in the office and when I get done with that I have about an hour and then I pass out

So like she understands that for a good month I'm pretty busy

I don't have time to really go and do the fun things

I don't really get to see family

I don't really get to go to friends or anything like that

It's mainly just like business because that is our busy time

So I think once we grow out of this portion of where I'm at now into a larger step I'll be able to kind of break away from that you know which is always the goal is to grow and get to the point where you're not doing everything

Um but like she knows that there's times where I can't take Saturday off or I can't take Sunday off

Yeah I gotta do stuff

Um and she's understanding of that

But yeah I think I'm a strong believer that it takes a special person it takes a special person to start something and actually you know do it for a long time right

Stick with the same thing

Like whether you're a business owner or whether you're like even even like a regular job it takes a lot to just do the same thing over and over and over again because um we're naturally inclined to like novelty and new things but not this whatever stuff

You know we're not really made to be robots and do the same thing over and over

And especially as business owners and entrepreneurs it takes a special person to do it but it also takes another special person to be the one that's supporting that person right

I've been in relationships where it's been great and it's not been great right

Or whether that person thought that they were ready for that and then they weren't right

So shout out to Kailyn

Kailyn's a warrior and she is she's gone through it

Yeah she's gone through a lot of those like I I I slightly disagree with you on this and we talked about it last time was like I I I it does take relatively a special person but it's not really about the special person

It takes two special people

So okay you know after our conversation I kind of thought more of it and I was remembering our conversations about this is now I truly believe that takes two special people to do it because in a relationship there's compromises

It doesn't matter if it's you know I'm not you know one thing personally I'll live out of a laundry basket

I don't care I hate folding clothes but my wife can't stand clothes being in the laundry basket

Yeah

So the compromise was like I'll put them I'll put my dirty clothes in the laundry basket and she hangs them for me

And what I do in return is I throw the clothes in the washing machine so like I wash them and she folds and puts them away

Yeah

So a compromising business is like it did affect me with you know I'd be lying on the couch at eight o'clock at night and be watching TV with my wife and then a customer will call my business phone and I jump up answer him like oh this is sounds like what can I do for you

Whatever and do the estimate or like try to talk to him and then that that cook you know clients love to tell you their entire life story so it takes you 45 minutes to get off the phone with them

Um right

And that would make her upset because now I've missed 45 minutes of the TV show or movie or whatever we were doing you know make her upset

So her coming to me rationally and being like it's becoming a problem our relationship like you're always answering the phone you're not taking time for just me

So in return I compromised and now I know my phone is off at 7 like I don't care if you're giving going to give me a million dollar freaking contract if you call me past 7

Respectfully I'm not answering the phone

Right you can wait till Monday

Yeah so that was one thing that we had to do

That took two took her communicating with me and took me realizing that her concern is valid

Yeah of course and changing some stuff

Like there's some times where she's like during during the busy time of the year and been like oh you're always gone

And I'm like well right now I have to be if you don't want me to be later in the season cause if I can fill the schedule now I don't have to try to fill it later

Yeah it's not constantly

It's only it's only temporary but yeah I mean I can agree it takes two I mean it takes two to tango right but you it takes two because you have to be willing to uh huh you have to be willing to understand and possibly compromise

And they have to be willing to understand communicate and compromise exactly

And that's that's a big thing communication right now holding a grudge understanding that the person's not doing this on purpose right like you're not blowing her off and going away and working just just because you want to you wanna be with her

Yeah in Caitlin's eyes it was you see money over time with me yeah and it's not the case not how I felt

You know what I mean so communication is No

1

And if you don't communicate with your partner your spouse or your wife whatever or your husband and boyfriend whatever both sides

If you don't communicate one of the other will start envying herb maybe not envying but basically being upset at the other one

Hmm because they're not communicating

Yeah she had an understanding that I took money over our relationship which is not the case

I wasn't how I feel she was just an Assumption

Hmm so that's my hot take in the end of work

I don't even think it's a hot take

I think it's just like it's just a more detailed take right I believe that like as a manual leader right as a manual lead so it's like if you're leading your partner your spouse into a relationship where you have to will you have to do whatever is that you need to do in order for your future for every single goal that you have to be accomplished

Like it's your job to communicate to that person like hey the next 3 6 months like I'm gonna be like in hell

It's gonna be busy

I'm gonna be really tired

I don't know if I don't know if we're gonna get to do anything fun

I'm gonna spend as much quality time with you but I will do my best to you know put you first when it when it's necessary

I mean like you should always put the first right but you know life happens

Yeah but they also need to be able to understand that

And if they don't wanna sign up for that if that's not what they wanna do then that's a different conversation

I think like one of the biggest things I've heard recently is like your wife has to respect you

Yeah but that respect has to be earned

You know she doesn't just respect you for no reason

If you do shitty things she's not gonna respect you you know

And then second of all you know as you being a religious person as me as well as the Bible does say a man is supposed to lead the household but the Bible also says that a man is supposed to listen to his wife

Yeah supposed to die to yourself and give yourself to your wife

So that's part of the communication is I listened to my wife and then I LED the household by making a change that helped for the better

So I kind of made the decision but she told me the problem

So I can't think of the freaking scripture right now but basically off the top of my head it says something like a man that listens to a wife will be a will be a fruitful

It'll be a fruitful life

I think it's something with fruitful in it

Okay I can't I'm sorry I can't quote it right now

It's fine we'll play it in

Yeah but basically if you listen to your wife you'll be a fruitful man you'll be a fruitful man

Yeah I think yeah I believe that

And it's I mean it's pretty straightforward but you just you got lucky man you gotta be lucky you find a solid one

I'm sorry but I don't know I've been listening to this for a long time and the past five years you know last five years I would not wanna be in the dating game

No no no no you don't wanna be in the dating game

I haven't I haven't been in the dating in that long but from the the time like the year and some change that I've been in the dating game and it's rough out here

Man it is it's cut it's a nice battle you got a spoon dog it's cooked nothing bro I brought gloves that's it I bring nothing

It's it's cooked because we have unrealistic expectations we have disrespect all this and all that we could get into four hours

Yeah but and women thinking yeah they don't need a man and they don't need a man that they can do which is great

I mean shit I I agree I agree I love it

Like you shouldn't always need a man but you shouldn't always need a man

But you should want to want you should want to need a man not necessarily needs like the keywords need right the keywords seems like you depend

You cannot breathe without this man

This isn't like obviously like you definitely should as like a regular person regardless if you're a woman or not you should be able to rely on yourself and pick yourself up right

But I think that submission being submissive is not necessarily giving yourself up

It is but they the want the want to want to do that

That's kind of what I'm getting at

I think part of the problem is like you don't

It's good to be independent as a man or woman

It's good to be independent yeah but if you are comfortable in a relationship like I think a lot of problems is like women put too much trust into a man instantly and you know and then they get burnt

And then from that burnt they learn like oh all men are shit yeah which is not the case

You just found a bad apple

You know

So I think part of it is like once you are into a committed relationship and you are into a long term relationship you've been together for a year or two I think you should start transitioning yourself into being independent yes but also rely in certain aspects to your partner

And same with man

Like I couldn't do this on my own

I couldn't do this without Caitlin

Yeah yeah definitely you know I depend on her for certain things and she depends on me for certain things

So like a relationship like we keep saying is all about compromise isn't all about teamwork

It's YouTube versus the world it is

So why wouldn't you be dependent on your man for certain things and he be dependent on you for certain things

Like both of you should not be fully independent people cause there's no growth together

Yeah there's no team there's no team

It's just you know it's just you two alone

It'd be like yeah if it's kind of I'm gonna go to football for this

Yeah yeah um you have a quarterback and then you have the offensive line you have wide receivers and running back stuff like that

That is a team

Nothing was just one lineman and a quarterback and one wide receiver and the other team had you know linemen someone to watch the quarterback and someone to go out and try to catch the ball from the receiver

You would make any good plays

Like yeah it takes a team to do great things

Yeah same thing with business yeah even if you work a job if you have a shitty team you're not hitting the sales goal you're not hitting production you're not hitting whatever the goal is of your team because you have a crappy team

It takes everyone together to do great things same thing with governments same if you look at anything during history no one person did great things alone

Yeah even Jesus even him he had disciples

He didn't do it all on his own

Yeah they spread his message exactly and it takes a great team and takes a great leader as well right like you have Jesus great leader you have every single general and every single battle great leaders even the ones that did horrible things you know they had a whole team and they had a whole country behind them and stuff cause they thought they were great leaders

So we're doing a great thing takes the team no matter what it is

Yeah exactly so what what do you think our qualities are great leaders then qualities are great leaders

Yeah what what makes people what makes people want to want to be LED leading from the front and listening to your team

Okay I think that's the number number like me being an employee in the past that's the number one things I looked for

If I had a supervisor just sat in the truck all day and just pointed his finger and said go do this on this and then he just sat there in the truck all day

I didn't respect him

Yeah so a lot of it is earning your respect from your team yeah walking the talk

Yeah so like lead from the front

Okay if there's one thing I also couldn't stand was like if there was something we had to get done by Monday we have to work overtime on Saturday and then the boss doesn't show up because oh well I'm so early

Yeah I'm not getting paid for it

You know like I told you yeah it is a bad taste

Yeah it's just like well I'm here struggling and you're at home

Uh huh so one of the one of the number one things that even all of Augustus says is you're the first one to show up and you're last one to leave

Uh huh no matter if you're a GM or if you were the owner yeah you're the first one to show up last to leave

Uh huh and then also in Mike's instance like he will he used to go out on a boat on a yacht to do work because he needed to be able to get away and focus on stuff

But he would let his team know what he's working on or bring them in too yeah brother in a couple times

And he would also say before he was at that point like hey guys um it's you know 4:00 I'm out here doing estimates um do any ever get wrapped up whatever

Like he would send them a video or a voicemail of of what he's doing so they know that he's actually working

So they don't get the idea oh he's just sitting at home with his feet kicked up letting us work making all money while we're out here busting our asses

Exactly yeah I think so

I mean it's just like he said even look at history George Washington first president every single battle that he was in he was front center

Uh same thing with like Napoleon same thing with gang is costing thing with like all those Roman people first in line

They had a great team and they were like yeah let's go do it

Let's just all go

Their team trusted them yeah yeah with their lives

Uh huh yeah it's it's it's one of those lessons that gets repeatedly taught throughout every single generation

That's great examples right like for example like um even with like Elon Musk right now bro does not go to his mansion and chill

Right you can call him whatever you wanna call him right if you like him or not doesn't really matter

You can't fight the facts right sleeping on the factory floor throughout like the worst weeks of Tesla sleeping on the factory floor at Spacex going in with engineers and working on everything and like soliciting parts and you know yes flying his private jet here and there here and there but for what for business bringing his team along buy now companies and repurposing them with a team in the trenches

Right he's not just like from like some luxurious office in this man exactly mansion making calls

Yeah his boots on the ground making and he's built amazing companies whether you like it or not

You know he might be a he may be a questionable person from a personal side but you can't deny the fact that he is a great leader

You cannot but you cannot possibly build multi billion dollar companies if you're not a great leader

It's just that's just not how it works from nothing from nothing he wasn't handed yeah a multi million dollar company and grow it to a billion

Yeah I know he's insane insane crazy

They got same thing with Jeff Bezos same thing with um what's the guys in um fucking apple

I can't I'm blanking I'm blanking Steve Jobs Steve Jobs you know they all have their controversies

They all probably should people at some point qualities that you know are not necessarily the best but they were in the trenches they have great leadership and they had most importantly great people around them that believed in their mission that weren't indoctrinated that were whatever into like their little bubble of thought and they got the shit done

You wanna know what the number one um millionaire of America that was self made

Who what their career was

What

A teacher teacher

Yeah teachers are the number one self made millionaires

I remember I remember we touched on this but at it's it's weird because I mean I would think that it's because retirement accounts and because it is all that right it by the time they retire from teaching you know they're like what 50 67 years old or something like that

So they did their due diligence and they did a retirement account early on

By the time they by the time they actually miss whores

And they take all the money it's a couple million dollars

What's the number one quality of a teacher

They teach dedication dedication cause no one teaches for the money hmm nobody teaches for the money this is taking horrible shit exactly

Yeah it's dedication so they're dedicated to paying off their house they're dedicated to putting money into a 4:01 k they're dedicated in what they do

Yeah you gotta love what you do you gotta love what you do to be a teacher you gotta deal with all those little shithead kids like me and you were at one point yeah I cannot imagine dealing with a classroom full of me holy fuck no that was good now just crash out fuck no I'm like you're 18 now you're 18 now let's run it yo catch me outside bro

That's crazy but no yeah it's it's pretty weird it's pretty crazy life is weird you should think life is crazy

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