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Marvin: Hey folks, it's Marvin Cash, the host of the Articulate Fly.

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Marvin: We're back with another On the Salt with Captain David Blinken. David, how are you?

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David: I'm good, Marvin. How are you doing this week?

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Marvin: As always, just trying to stay out of trouble. And it's kind of funny,

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Marvin: you were lamenting the north-northeast wind, and I was saying that it made me

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Marvin: happy down here in the south because it was dropping the temperature and lowering the humidity.

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David: Well you know all the crowds have cleared out

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David: from uh the east end of long island now and i

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David: want to get some serious fishing in with some clients

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David: and of course the first thing that happens is we get a northeast wind so uh

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David: you know but we'll we'll uh you know this time of year it occasionally happens

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David: and it sort of turns around midday and comes south and then we can fish it just

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David: means you know delaying our start that's about it really yeah.

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Marvin: I got it and i think the the last time we spoke, you were hopeful that you'd

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Marvin: start seeing false albacore. Has that been the case?

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David: They've been spotty. They've been up in New England, the Jersey Shore,

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David: and in western Long Island.

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David: You hear reports of them here and there.

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David: I just got a report literally minutes before we got on air of albies over in Long Island,

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David: I should say Rhode Island, probably around around watch hill and uh uh they

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David: should if they're there they should be uh they should be in montauk and gardener's

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David: bay any second so i'm hoping when i get out there tomorrow i'm going to be greeted

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David: by a bunch of uh hardtails yeah.

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Marvin: There you go and so were you chasing stripers or blues today.

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David: So we were sight fishing for stripers today which was

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David: a lot of fun uh i'll uh i'll send along a photo later but uh you know we got

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David: a couple of nice bass and in the upper 20 inch range and uh then uh when uh

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David: that turned off we went and turned our sights on bluefish and had some fun with

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David: them as well so you know all in all it was a nice day yeah.

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Marvin: Well there you go we got a question for you from brenner and he was interested

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Marvin: in getting your thoughts on you know if you're going to fish at night in the

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Marvin: salt what can you do to improve your odds.

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David: Well, there's a number of things you can do to improve your odds,

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David: but I would tell you this.

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David: Before you start fishing a night spot, fish it in the day.

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David: And the reason why is you want to look at it both at high and low tide,

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David: get an idea of which way the water's moving and how it's moving through the

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David: area you're going to be fishing at night.

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David: The other important thing is, the other important reason why you're going to

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David: fish during the day is so that at night, after getting to know during the day,

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David: when you're walking around those spots, you don't fall into a hole.

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David: I mean, that's, you know, the worst possible thing ever.

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David: So, you know, improving your odds is getting to know the place and the tides,

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David: getting to know the topography.

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David: And then of course we can talk about

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David: fly selection and um i mean

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David: it's it's such a broad question um if

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David: you're using swimming flies um you know you can use uh a lot of people like

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David: black flies because it makes a nice profile at night i myself like to use white

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David: flies i've had a lot of luck using just straight white flies they really they

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David: kind of stand out especially especially if there's a little bit of light.

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David: Other things that are fun to use are things like gurglers or sliders or poppers.

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David: And, you know, they don't need to make a lot of noise.

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David: They just need to make maybe just a very subtle V-wake on the water.

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David: You're not really ripping it at night, but it's more of a nuanced kind of fishing.

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David: So these are some things to think about.

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David: Of course, being very familiar with your equipment. that

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David: is another important way to improve your

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David: chances understanding what a cast feels like and knowing

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David: how far you're throwing so um uh

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David: my night fishing line at the

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David: 60 foot mark has a little bump in it that i've done just by tying some thread

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David: and gluing it so i actually have an idea of how far i'm throwing to my target

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David: area so i have my little I have that little wrap of thread on the line at around my 60-foot mark.

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David: And, you know, if you're fishing smaller areas, you could have your little tie-it-on

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David: piece of thread at, let's say, your 40 or your 50-foot mark.

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David: Because at night, the last thing you want to do is turn on a light that can

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David: potentially scatter the fish and give them a warning.

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David: And if you are going to use a light, the best thing to do is have a red lens over your light.

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David: It won't be seen or perceived by the fish as easily as, let's say,

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David: a white, blue, or green, or even a yellow light.

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David: So I would say if you're going to have a headlamp or something, have a red lens over it.

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David: And, of course, try not to shine it on the water.

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David: And, of course, going back to the topography, you know...

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David: If you really know your topography well, let's say you're fishing the deeper

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David: spot in the nighttime, you might want an intermediate line.

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David: I tend to fish more floating lines because I feel like in the evenings,

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David: the fish are looking up at bait.

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David: Unless it's sand eels, which bury in the sand every night, right at dusk.

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David: And then when they're doing it, they tend to do it close to the low tide mark,

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David: close to shore at the low tide mark. If you're fishing in a Bay or an estuary,

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David: um, and in those situations, I'm definitely using a floating line, very slender flies.

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David: And I tend to fish, uh, you know, that particular situation is really great

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David: at twilight, like an hour before sunset to,

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David: you know, an hour after sunset, and then kind of have a dead period very often

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David: once it gets perfectly black.

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David: And then all of a sudden you'll notice an hour into the darkness,

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David: things start to pick up again.

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David: So, you know, just being aware of all these situations, being aware of the area

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David: you're fishing by scoping it out during the day, both at high and low tide and

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David: getting to know the currents.

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David: And then, you know, your fly selection and line selection,

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David: all these things, you know, culminate together to really

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David: give you a successful outing and one

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David: last thing especially if you're fishing the northeast is every

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David: fish you reel in is a bluefish um and

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David: i'm saying that more metaphorically because if you're

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David: going to lip a fish at night and uh you think

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David: you're just catching stripers um you could

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David: be in for a really um unfortunate surprise so

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David: really carefully look at each fish you bring in

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David: on the fly even if it's with 15 pound test you can land a bluefish um so really

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David: make sure you know what animal that is on the end of your line so you don't

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David: you know hurt yourself uh really badly um and that really kind of covers it

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David: in our short little form here yeah.

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Marvin: Any thoughts by the way on kind of moon phase or anything like that in your neck of the woods.

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David: Um you know moon

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David: phase is really interesting um i personally

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David: don't like fishing the full moon during the day

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David: i find it a day before the full to a day after

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David: the full is really bad but that being said when i'm night fishing under a full

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David: moon that very often is proven to be very good and uh just a really quick story

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David: um the summer my daughter was born i was in martha's Vineyard fishing under

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David: a full moon at Lobsterville Beach.

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David: And I was just out there flipping a seven weight, getting little schoolie stripers.

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David: And lo and behold, I caught the biggest striped bass of my life on a fly rod

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David: that evening under the full moon.

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David: It was about 47 inches long.

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David: And that was a pretty neat moment for me.

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David: So that's my full moon story.

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David: But during the day, full moons tend to be my least productive.

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David: But at night, full moons have been very generous.

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David: And new moons can be great as well. But I think the full moon will also allow

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David: you to see fish swirling and eating bait that hasn't buried into the sand for the evening,

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David: as long as you can get at the right angle and there's no clouds.

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Marvin: Yeah, got it. And you know, folks, we love questions on the Articulate Fly.

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Marvin: You can email them to us or DM us on social media, whatever is easiest for you.

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Marvin: And if we use your question, I will send you some Articulate Fly swag,

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Marvin: you know, a drawing for the Royal Wolf line of your choice.

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Marvin: And I guess, David, before I let you give everyone housekeeping details,

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Marvin: we should give a shout out to our friend Steve Ramirez because his last book

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Marvin: in the casting series, Casting Homeward, got released over Labor Day weekend.

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David: Yeah, it did. And I really strongly suggest everyone buy it because Steve doesn't

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David: just write about fishing.

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David: Steve writes really about the experience in his life and how things relate.

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David: It's such a fun way to read a book that isn't so hyper-focused on one particular thing.

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David: It's really, when you read Steve's books, you're actually seeing what Steve

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David: is saying instead of reading it. It's really, he writes beautifully.

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Marvin: Yeah, absolutely. And, you know, David, if someone wants to get on the bow of

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Marvin: your boat, what should they do?

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David: They can go to my website, davidblinken.com or northgladsguiding.com.

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David: And they can also email me at davidblinken at gmail.

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Marvin: Well, there you go. Well, folks, as I always say, you owe it to yourself to

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Marvin: get out there and catch a few. Tight lines, everybody. tight lines David tight lines Marvin.