1 00:00:00,001 --> 00:00:13,280 Welcome to Podcast Answers, the show that I help you start and grow your podcast answering 2 00:00:13,280 --> 00:00:18,640 any podcasting questions along the way. And that's right today we are doing that. We're 3 00:00:18,640 --> 00:00:22,000 talking about podcasting because podcasting excites me. 4 00:00:22,000 --> 00:00:26,800 If you can't tell podcasting excites me because you can get your message out there. Any single 5 00:00:26,800 --> 00:00:32,480 person can get their message out there podcasting and it's relatively cheap. Back in the day, 6 00:00:32,480 --> 00:00:38,800 you used to have to have a radio license. You have to use to have to be employed by a radio station 7 00:00:38,800 --> 00:00:43,920 or do the pirate radio, but that's a whole different thing. But now you don't have to 8 00:00:43,920 --> 00:00:51,040 do that anymore because you can do that with podcasting relatively simple, relatively cheap. 9 00:00:51,680 --> 00:00:58,000 And now there is a new way to bring guests onto your show. So back in the day when I started, 10 00:00:58,000 --> 00:01:03,680 I started podcasting back in 2007. And guess what? That was a long time ago. 11 00:01:03,680 --> 00:01:12,640 And to bring guests on, we had to do really crappy telephone systems where it sounded like they were 12 00:01:12,640 --> 00:01:18,400 in a bathroom and a hall. And it was sounded like they were on the telephone because they were. 13 00:01:19,040 --> 00:01:25,360 And then throughout the years, thing of have progressed and my 14 00:01:25,360 --> 00:01:32,640 suggestion now on how to bring guests in has changed. And so previously I had talked to you, 15 00:01:32,640 --> 00:01:38,800 there has been an episode on this show and I'll link to it in the show notes. So if you just tap 16 00:01:38,800 --> 00:01:45,520 away from where you're at right now, you can get into that. And you can see the show notes 17 00:01:45,520 --> 00:01:51,200 for this episode where I will be talking about the how I will have linked the episode that I talked 18 00:01:51,200 --> 00:01:57,120 about show notes on it, show notes on how to bring guests on. There we go. Can't get my words out 19 00:01:57,120 --> 00:02:03,440 today. It's a little bit warm today in Indiana where I'm at. So that's the way it works is 20 00:02:03,440 --> 00:02:09,920 before I had this other this other way to do it. And I still do that. So I use an application called 21 00:02:10,640 --> 00:02:16,400 E cam live and it is a Mac only application. So sorry, Windows users, if you're a Windows user, 22 00:02:16,400 --> 00:02:23,600 this does not apply to you. But this software called E cam live is the software that I use 23 00:02:23,600 --> 00:02:29,680 to produce all of my streaming videos, all of my the way that I do everything. And so 24 00:02:29,680 --> 00:02:35,680 it allows me to bring cameras in. And one of the cool things about it is it allows you to bring 25 00:02:35,680 --> 00:02:40,480 guests in. They have what's called a guest mode. And with the guest mode on E cam, and that's not 26 00:02:40,480 --> 00:02:44,560 actually what we're talking about today, because we're gonna be talking about zoom. But when I 27 00:02:44,560 --> 00:02:51,040 first started this whole podcasting thing in the recent years, I had brought on my guests via zoom. 28 00:02:51,040 --> 00:02:58,320 But I had to basically screen scrape that meaning that I had a screen share in my software production 29 00:02:58,320 --> 00:03:03,120 that I was using OBS at the time, which is free and it's a cross platform. So it works well. 30 00:03:04,320 --> 00:03:12,080 But you get what you pay for. And so I didn't like the support that I had with with OBS. So 31 00:03:12,080 --> 00:03:20,480 I moved to E cam. And E cam allows you to have a link. So they give you a web URL. If you're on the 32 00:03:20,480 --> 00:03:27,120 paid on the pro plan, sorry, the pro plan gives you this this link. And you can send it to your 33 00:03:27,120 --> 00:03:31,680 guests and they can open it up in their browser and they can essentially just give their browser 34 00:03:31,680 --> 00:03:37,200 access to their camera and they can see your show. And it works. It works. I've done this for 35 00:03:37,200 --> 00:03:42,960 several years now. This is I'm on the season two of this episode, but on this podcast, 36 00:03:42,960 --> 00:03:48,560 but on my other podcast, I was, I'm on season six. So I've been doing this for quite a while. 37 00:03:48,560 --> 00:03:54,960 And, and it works, but it's something new for the guests to learn because they, 38 00:03:54,960 --> 00:04:00,080 they're not necessarily used to it unless they've been on live with an E cam broadcast before. 39 00:04:01,040 --> 00:04:09,200 It doesn't, it works, but it's just not that intuitive. So what E cam has done is they have 40 00:04:09,200 --> 00:04:16,960 come up with an integration with zoom. And so the zoom client is actually now built in 41 00:04:16,960 --> 00:04:21,920 to E cam. And let me warn you, if you're just listening to this as a podcast, you may actually 42 00:04:21,920 --> 00:04:27,120 want to catch the YouTube replay because I'm going to show you some things on this integration 43 00:04:27,840 --> 00:04:34,000 that are just going to be really, really hard to describe in an audio podcast. So I hope that you 44 00:04:34,000 --> 00:04:39,040 will make the move and jump over to the YouTube replay if you want to see the integration on this. 45 00:04:39,040 --> 00:04:44,320 But so let's start with this. So this right here is the mope. That's not right there. That's the 46 00:04:44,320 --> 00:04:50,480 wrong screen that I just shared, but that's okay. This right here is the E cam interface. 47 00:04:51,600 --> 00:04:59,600 And the way that it works now is zoom is built in. And so you have a whole copy of zoom right here 48 00:04:59,600 --> 00:05:06,160 in E cam. And this window right here on this window, and I'll do my best to describe it for 49 00:05:06,160 --> 00:05:11,920 our audio listeners, but this window right here allows you to click a new meeting, just like you 50 00:05:11,920 --> 00:05:17,760 would if you were a, you know, if you were in the regular zoom client, just create a meeting, 51 00:05:17,760 --> 00:05:23,840 just go live, just go to the meeting right now. You can join by an ID or link. So if it's somebody 52 00:05:23,840 --> 00:05:30,720 else's meeting, you can join it. Or you can click on scheduled events. And so essentially, let me 53 00:05:30,720 --> 00:05:36,960 talk a little bit about the way that this would work. So you can, you can just have a zoom meeting 54 00:05:36,960 --> 00:05:42,400 that you're basically presenting into. So if you want to have a small audience and just want 55 00:05:42,400 --> 00:05:49,040 to present into a zoom meeting, you can do that because all of your video from E cam comes into 56 00:05:49,040 --> 00:05:55,840 zoom. And it allows you to see that and you could do that before because he cam has a is a virtual 57 00:05:55,840 --> 00:06:00,240 camera has a virtual, a virtual camera. So in other words, anything that can take a camera 58 00:06:00,240 --> 00:06:05,520 can take your, your E cam production and bring it into so you can always do that with zoom, 59 00:06:05,520 --> 00:06:09,280 you could always present into zoom. The nice thing now about it, though, is if you comment, 60 00:06:09,280 --> 00:06:15,760 if someone comments in zoom, those comments show up in your comments area for E cam. 61 00:06:15,760 --> 00:06:21,600 And when they show up in E cam, you can just bring them right on screen. So if anyone comments in 62 00:06:21,600 --> 00:06:24,160 zoom, you can bring their comment right up on screen. And you couldn't do that before, 63 00:06:24,160 --> 00:06:30,240 before this integration. And so now you have this integration where I will go ahead and show you 64 00:06:30,240 --> 00:06:34,960 exactly what happens with this. But the other way to use it is to bring your guests from zoom 65 00:06:35,840 --> 00:06:42,080 into your E cam production as video. So whether that's being presenting something in zoom or 66 00:06:42,080 --> 00:06:51,280 presenting something on a live stream that shows up and you can bring your zoom guests with there 67 00:06:51,280 --> 00:06:57,200 is high quality audio, because you can turn the original sound for musicians on, you can bring 68 00:06:57,200 --> 00:07:02,240 them in video into your production. So what I'm going to do is I'm going to go ahead and start a 69 00:07:02,240 --> 00:07:06,960 meeting. And you'll see exactly what happens. I'm clicking start meeting right now on that. 70 00:07:06,960 --> 00:07:12,080 And you'll get the familiar thing that you normally see zoom workplace, it's connecting. 71 00:07:12,080 --> 00:07:19,440 So what happens then is you end up having a zoom meeting, and I'm actually going to switch right 72 00:07:19,440 --> 00:07:23,440 right now you're seeing my whole production and you're seeing the the background, but I'm going 73 00:07:23,440 --> 00:07:28,880 to actually switch it over to a different camera. That way you can see me. So in other words, 74 00:07:28,880 --> 00:07:32,880 it's just like a zoom meeting. This is the zoom meeting that you're used to you have participants 75 00:07:32,880 --> 00:07:40,000 panel that is off my screen right now. The participants panel, you have a chat panel 76 00:07:40,000 --> 00:07:48,080 that is right off screen, all the stuff that you're normally used to in zoom shows up in 77 00:07:48,080 --> 00:07:56,800 here because this is a copy of zoom, this is a copy of zoom. So what you saw there is there 78 00:07:56,800 --> 00:08:02,000 is a participant showing up Chester, which is actually just my other machine. And I have him 79 00:08:02,000 --> 00:08:09,360 in a waiting room. So if I bring him in, and admit him into this call, you now see just like your 80 00:08:09,360 --> 00:08:15,360 normal zoom meeting, you have me, you have Chester, and that works great. So I'm actually going to go 81 00:08:15,360 --> 00:08:22,240 ahead and minimize this zoom window, because I want to mostly focus on E cam right now because 82 00:08:22,240 --> 00:08:28,960 E cam is what I'm chatting with here. So I'm gonna hide the meeting. So now, in E cam, in the zoom 83 00:08:28,960 --> 00:08:33,520 panel in E cam, so this is just a regular E cam window, you see Chester's name here. 84 00:08:33,520 --> 00:08:37,280 And you'll see all of the people that join their zoom meeting here. 85 00:08:37,280 --> 00:08:44,800 If I click Add, a couple things are going to happen because zoom has to capture use a 86 00:08:44,800 --> 00:08:50,080 capture mode, either live streaming or recording, it's going to notify the attendees that this 87 00:08:50,080 --> 00:08:54,000 meeting is being live streamed. Now, even if you're not live streaming, this is important. 88 00:08:54,000 --> 00:08:57,200 Even if you're not being live streamed right now, even if you're actually not live streaming the 89 00:08:57,200 --> 00:09:01,760 call, and you're just on a zoom meeting, it's going to tell them that or it's going to tell 90 00:09:01,760 --> 00:09:06,080 them it's going to be recorded or it is being recorded. Now, it's up to you how you want to 91 00:09:06,080 --> 00:09:10,640 notify your audience, there's some technical thing differences and why you would want to do 92 00:09:10,640 --> 00:09:14,480 one or the other, I usually use it, leave it on live streaming capture mode, because it's easier, 93 00:09:14,480 --> 00:09:17,920 it does a banner, it doesn't automatically notify everybody when they join in the call. 94 00:09:18,720 --> 00:09:25,840 But so now what you can see is I actually have a video of Chester. And if I say assigned to a 95 00:09:25,840 --> 00:09:31,200 placeholder, I'm going to give them guest one. And then what I can do what I'm sorry, 96 00:09:31,200 --> 00:09:34,960 I realized you were not seeing that I can click on the three dots here and I can assign them to 97 00:09:34,960 --> 00:09:42,000 a placeholder guest one. Now what I can do is go to my camera switcher and assign him guest one, 98 00:09:42,000 --> 00:09:48,480 assign that plant to that guest placeholder to camera one. And now when I go into my scene, it 99 00:09:48,480 --> 00:09:53,680 just shows up like another camera and you can see you can see that it that it shows up like another 100 00:09:53,680 --> 00:09:57,360 camera in here. And so you can bring your guests in via zoom because they're familiar with zoom. 101 00:09:57,360 --> 00:10:04,320 Right? Your guests are familiar with zoom because they're used to it. You know, during that whole 102 00:10:04,320 --> 00:10:10,080 global thing that we had, where everyone stayed at home. Everybody was on zoom. So everybody knows 103 00:10:10,080 --> 00:10:17,280 zoom, right? So, again, now I have them in my production, they're showing up this is could be 104 00:10:17,280 --> 00:10:23,200 anybody it's a it's a good quality video. But the one thing you can do, let's say that they're off 105 00:10:23,200 --> 00:10:28,240 center or their cameras a little colored, you can use the same camera effects that you can in a cam 106 00:10:28,240 --> 00:10:35,520 and adjust their camera. So if you wanted to pan and zoom, you could pan and zoom around a little 107 00:10:35,520 --> 00:10:41,280 bit in their camera. If they weren't quite the same, you can bring their brightness up or down, 108 00:10:41,280 --> 00:10:47,200 you can bring the temperature up or down the gamma up or down, you know, whatever you wanted to do 109 00:10:47,200 --> 00:10:53,280 to adjust if they had a green screen behind them. You could add a an actual green screen in here. 110 00:10:53,280 --> 00:10:58,720 You can mirror their video, you can make it black and white, you can do all sorts of stuff, 111 00:10:58,720 --> 00:11:02,960 just like you can with any other camera in a cam. So that's the great thing. Again, 112 00:11:02,960 --> 00:11:07,680 any other camera and he cam like you can, you can do the same things with the zoom guests. 113 00:11:07,680 --> 00:11:13,600 And the cool thing about this is just like in zoom, I'm sorry, just like in normal cam 114 00:11:13,600 --> 00:11:19,440 in the recording window, you have the option to do isolated video. 115 00:11:19,440 --> 00:11:29,120 So as you can see, I can record my camera isolated video. But I can also include the interview guests 116 00:11:29,120 --> 00:11:35,040 and zoom guests as isolated video and I can choose what audio I want on there right now I have it as 117 00:11:35,040 --> 00:11:38,960 the program audio. But if I want to adjust their audio in there, I could say just the guest audio 118 00:11:38,960 --> 00:11:47,760 and have a completely isolated track of just the guests audio. So that's really, really, really 119 00:11:47,760 --> 00:11:54,960 cool. So again, this is one of the things that I think as as podcasters, it's a good way to bring 120 00:11:54,960 --> 00:12:00,480 your guests on. And so I've been thinking a lot about how to use this. And again, you could bring 121 00:12:00,480 --> 00:12:06,480 your guests in but you could also do like a behind the scenes for your paying members. Like if you 122 00:12:06,480 --> 00:12:11,440 have a support for a your podcast, if you're having people that can pay you for your content 123 00:12:11,440 --> 00:12:16,320 creation that you're making, you can easily bring them in because again, all of this is a zoom 124 00:12:16,320 --> 00:12:24,560 meeting. And so you could easily just have everybody show up in here. And you can set any 125 00:12:24,560 --> 00:12:29,120 of the settings that you normally would. So if you go into participants in the zoom meeting, 126 00:12:29,120 --> 00:12:36,960 you can say, mute everybody on entry and don't let them unmute. And so when everybody comes into the 127 00:12:36,960 --> 00:12:41,200 meeting, they dial in, they're going to be on mute. And then you can ask people to unmute. So 128 00:12:41,200 --> 00:12:46,800 let's say you wanted to bring Chester in as a guest. What I would do is I would just go in here, 129 00:12:46,800 --> 00:12:51,520 and I would ask him to unmute, he's actually not connected to the audio right now, but I could just 130 00:12:51,520 --> 00:12:59,120 ask him to unmute. So, so, so you could have 35 people in there, all listening and kind of getting 131 00:12:59,120 --> 00:13:03,200 behind the scenes. But then if they wanted to ask a question, you can easily bring them on, 132 00:13:03,200 --> 00:13:09,120 because it would be super easy to just, when they raise their hand, you'll see them in this 133 00:13:09,120 --> 00:13:14,400 zoom window, where all of the guests show up. And if they raise their hand, it shows up in there 134 00:13:14,400 --> 00:13:23,520 as a hand raised. So sorry, I'm trying to mess with my other zoom meeting. 135 00:13:23,520 --> 00:13:28,880 So if I raise my hand on the other zoom, 136 00:13:28,880 --> 00:13:37,440 you see it in my zoom window. Oops, I keep clicking back and forth. 137 00:13:37,440 --> 00:13:42,320 But so the nice thing about that is you can see that they have their hands raised. And so you 138 00:13:42,320 --> 00:13:46,640 can go in there and say, Okay, if your hand is raised, I'm going to mute you and bring you on, 139 00:13:46,640 --> 00:13:51,360 assign you to a camera and bring you on. And then you just have you have your guests in here, 140 00:13:51,360 --> 00:13:55,440 you're paying supporters that want to ask questions can come right into zoom, 141 00:13:55,440 --> 00:13:58,800 right into your production right into your recording right into your podcast. And it 142 00:13:58,800 --> 00:14:03,760 and the thing about the cam guys is you don't have to live stream, you can just audio record, 143 00:14:03,760 --> 00:14:06,880 or you can just record with it and then have the video file for later. You don't even have to do 144 00:14:06,880 --> 00:14:14,320 anything with the video file. He can gives you audio of the production. It gives you audio, 145 00:14:14,320 --> 00:14:20,880 isolated audio tracks of all of the guests and hosts and things. So you have all these things 146 00:14:20,880 --> 00:14:30,960 you can produce. It is really, really cool. And so, so what what I'm finding here is, is that 147 00:14:30,960 --> 00:14:36,720 he cam is just really leveled up the game to make bringing your guests on super, super simple. 148 00:14:36,720 --> 00:14:42,880 Because again, zoom is something that people know. Zoom is something that people have done before 149 00:14:42,880 --> 00:14:45,920 they know they know how to get into it. They know how to do it. They know what to expect. 150 00:14:45,920 --> 00:14:49,600 So I would say definitely try it out. If you're going to if you're going to try this, this is on 151 00:14:49,600 --> 00:14:55,040 the the pro plan of E cam. And if you've not checked out E cam, you can go to podcastanswers.com/ecam 152 00:14:58,320 --> 00:15:02,560 and and get a trial of it. And yes, that is an affiliate link. But I really, really, 153 00:15:02,560 --> 00:15:09,360 really, truly, truly believe that E cam is the best software for producing live video and recorded 154 00:15:09,360 --> 00:15:14,240 video because it's just so simple to have all of your scenes set up and just being able to go 155 00:15:14,240 --> 00:15:20,080 through them and being able to share and it doesn't have to be in like a window like this. 156 00:15:20,080 --> 00:15:27,440 You can you can just bring them on to like a full camera like this. You can just it doesn't have to 157 00:15:27,440 --> 00:15:33,920 be anything fancy. But it can be. It can be and you can bring in comments and you can bring in 158 00:15:33,920 --> 00:15:38,560 guests. Now the one I would say definitely go ahead and check it out. Make sure that it's going 159 00:15:38,560 --> 00:15:42,640 to work for you. So if you're if you're thinking about doing this, get a few friends together, 160 00:15:42,640 --> 00:15:47,280 do a zoom call, kind of play with it and see how it is bringing guests into zoom. 161 00:15:47,280 --> 00:15:52,960 The nice thing about the nice thing about using the zoom integration is again, it's easy for 162 00:15:52,960 --> 00:16:01,280 people because they're used to doing it. But not only that, but they're there. You can just do it 163 00:16:01,280 --> 00:16:07,840 and play around and there's no time limit. So on on the guest interview mode for E cam, 164 00:16:07,840 --> 00:16:14,240 there is a time limit on it. So if you are a pro member, you get a certain amount of minutes. 165 00:16:14,240 --> 00:16:17,200 And if you're I mean, I remember if you pay monthly, you get a certain amount. If you pay 166 00:16:17,200 --> 00:16:25,040 yearly, you get a certain amount. And so there's a certain amount. So 250 hours, if you're playing 167 00:16:25,040 --> 00:16:30,720 yearly is what you get. And so I mean, yes, that's a lot. You're probably not going to go over 250 168 00:16:30,720 --> 00:16:37,040 hours of guest recording, but you may. So the nice thing about zoom though, is you're not limited, 169 00:16:37,040 --> 00:16:44,400 if especially if you have now there is any limits on your zoom plan are gonna limit the quality that 170 00:16:44,400 --> 00:16:50,720 you can get in interior cam. So if you're on a free zoom plan, it does work, you are able to 171 00:16:50,720 --> 00:16:56,080 bring in your zoom guests, but you're limited to that 45 minutes. So your interview would have to 172 00:16:56,080 --> 00:17:03,760 be 45 minutes or less. And you don't get high definition, high definition 720 or 1080 p video 173 00:17:03,760 --> 00:17:12,480 being brought in because they limit that. If you are on the pro plan, you can email zoom, 174 00:17:12,480 --> 00:17:19,360 that's the paid plan. You can email zoom and ask them to bring high definition into your 175 00:17:19,360 --> 00:17:24,560 account. Once they've done that, you can go into your settings and enable it. But on a pro plan, 176 00:17:24,560 --> 00:17:34,240 it's only 720. It's not 1080. But in the EKM interview mode, that's only 720 also. 177 00:17:34,240 --> 00:17:39,280 So you still get great video with it. It really does. You still get great video. 178 00:17:41,200 --> 00:17:45,440 If you have a business plan, which is a little bit harder to acquire, because it requires 10 179 00:17:45,440 --> 00:17:54,400 licenses, 10 seats to have, and it's more expensive, you can request to have up to 1080p. 180 00:17:54,400 --> 00:18:03,440 So there's, there's your limitations. The other limitation is with, with the interview mode, 181 00:18:03,440 --> 00:18:10,640 the normal interview mode in EKM, you can bring up to 10 guests in, in the zoom, you can bring up to 182 00:18:10,640 --> 00:18:18,560 eight guests in now, that may be confusing. That does not limit your meeting to only 10 guests. 183 00:18:18,560 --> 00:18:25,360 Really, it does not limit your meeting to only 10 guests. You can have 100 in there, 184 00:18:25,360 --> 00:18:33,760 if that's what your account actually actually has, is you can, you can have 100 in there. 185 00:18:33,760 --> 00:18:42,800 So really, again, it's not limited. The limit is bringing the video on. And so what that does is 186 00:18:42,800 --> 00:18:47,280 you could again, if you have 100 people in here, they're going to show up in this EKM window. 187 00:18:47,280 --> 00:18:52,160 With all of your guests, you won't see their video, you'll only see the one video that you've 188 00:18:52,160 --> 00:18:57,040 brought on, but it's easy to switch that out. So if you have eight guests on, it won't let you add 189 00:18:57,040 --> 00:19:00,320 any more. But let's say you want to add something, the ninth person, the ninth person is actually 190 00:19:00,320 --> 00:19:05,600 gonna make a comment, you could drop one of your eight people. And again, after a few people, 191 00:19:05,600 --> 00:19:09,680 it's really hard to have a conversation that makes sense with that many people. 192 00:19:09,680 --> 00:19:16,320 So what you can easily do is click on the three dots and say remove from cameras. And as soon as 193 00:19:16,320 --> 00:19:21,280 you do that, you can add a different person in. So once you reach your limitation, so it's again, 194 00:19:21,280 --> 00:19:29,840 only limitation for active people in at one time. But that is a lot of people. And so then you can 195 00:19:29,840 --> 00:19:33,200 actually to like if you had a guest that asked a question, call in and ask a question once they 196 00:19:33,200 --> 00:19:37,360 got on, you could actually just kick them right off, click here, click the dots, say remove from 197 00:19:37,360 --> 00:19:45,440 zoom meeting, and they're removed from the meeting, and they are gone. So guys, definitely check this 198 00:19:45,440 --> 00:19:52,400 out. Really, podcastanswers.com/ecamm. And again, I'm a huge believer in this. It's what I've been 199 00:19:52,400 --> 00:19:57,040 the software is what I've been using for several years now. I think this I'm on my third year using 200 00:19:57,040 --> 00:20:03,600 EKM. And it's just really cool because you can do live production live videos, super simple. 201 00:20:03,600 --> 00:20:10,640 That makes it super professional. And now you can bring in guests via zoom. 202 00:20:10,640 --> 00:20:18,240 And zoom is something that everybody knows. And so it makes it really easy to just have 203 00:20:18,240 --> 00:20:21,680 a guest on bring your guest on to say, "Hey, join this zoom meeting." 204 00:20:23,040 --> 00:20:29,920 And they're on. They're on your production. So guys, definitely check that out. And if you 205 00:20:29,920 --> 00:20:35,440 haven't yet, if you have any questions about this or any of the else podcasting like I do 206 00:20:35,440 --> 00:20:41,120 consulting one-on-one consulting for podcasting, and I love to help people get their podcast 207 00:20:41,120 --> 00:20:45,280 started. I love to edit podcasts for people. If you have any podcasting needs at all, 208 00:20:46,000 --> 00:20:53,600 feel free to contact me and you can do that at podcastanswers.com/contact. And I would love to 209 00:20:53,600 --> 00:20:56,800 do a one-on-one meeting with you. I'd love to help you get your podcast up and growing. 210 00:20:56,800 --> 00:21:04,080 So guys, with that, have a safe week. Happy podcasting and keep it up. 211 00:21:04,080 --> 00:21:18,160 [music]