[00:00:00] If they have twins, you have to name them Ham and Cheese. I've always said Ham and Cheese would be
[00:00:05] a great name for, you know, a newborn duo. How many likes on the video to get a Ham and Cheese?
[00:00:10] 40,000. We need a Ham and Cheese. Welcome back to Katching Up With Katie. I am so sorry that
[00:00:16] we haven't really been doing consistent episodes lately, due to the fact that we've been traveling
[00:00:21] a lot. We've been going to horse shows. We have been working so hard at home to prepare for those
[00:00:26] horse shows. And so that means, just like, the issue we're running into is time. Okay? We need
[00:00:33] more than 24 hours in a day. We need more than, you know, however many hours of daylight. We need
[00:00:38] like three more hours of daylight in each day. So that's what we've been doing. But we're going
[00:00:43] to try to be a little bit more consistent about catching up, having different guests. So today,
[00:00:49] my husband Jonathan is joining us. We're going to catch up with you here in a moment, but we are
[00:00:54] going to address the room. You got a new desk. New desk. You've got a new desk, but not for long. No,
[00:01:04] hopefully. I came up with an idea. Wait till you hear this. I came up with an idea. Okay,
[00:01:12] so like, we basically don't live at our house anymore. Like, we do everything in the shop all
[00:01:18] day long. We sleep at our house. And so I brought my old kitchen table to the shop. So we've been
[00:01:24] kitchen table-ists for probably six months now. We do have one, though. It's just not put together.
[00:01:30] So we have one. That table down there is the old one from your house. Yeah. Looks way bigger down
[00:01:38] there than it did in your house. Yeah, for sure. It's a big table. It was from like an estate sale.
[00:01:42] It's huge. But I had gone to Sarah Sales, which is like a warehouse sale, I don't know, last August,
[00:01:50] I think. And I bought this round table. I bought this round table that is beautiful. And you know,
[00:02:00] I don't — why does it need to go in my house? Who am I hosting in my house? Nobody. I love
[00:02:06] more that you bought it and then purchased it. So I bought it for the house and then it
[00:02:10] just never got put up. So now we've repurposed it, and I think because we have some rain days
[00:02:17] coming up — all right, boys, bring it in — meaning you have some rain days coming up, we can get it
[00:02:24] put together. And so we'll put it in here. And instead of having y'all over there, you know,
[00:02:30] space out these big clunky chairs — which by the way, these chairs were for an ad and then
[00:02:34] they just never left. They're so comfy, that's why they haven't left. And so we just sit in
[00:02:39] them. But for filming purposes, they are not the small, dainty, aesthetic chairs that are needed.
[00:02:44] And so we are kind of going to swap to a round table, a little more conversationally. I love
[00:02:50] round tables. With that being said, Nate, take it away. What are we going to be doing? We are
[00:02:54] also going to be dual-purposing this room. Yes. For some Dungeons and Dragons chat. Yes. So if
[00:03:04] you are a nerd, get ready. Which is a majority of you. For real though, like the YouTube audience,
[00:03:11] they're nerds. It was a sleeper. I did not expect the overflow — or the influx — of people that were
[00:03:18] supportive of that journey. Well, you know, during foal watch, it encouraged her to play. Thank you.
[00:03:23] It encouraged her to play. You guys made her more confident. Here's the thing. I've always been a
[00:03:28] mystical, you know, imaginative person. But it's just that the embarrassing factor — like, I've
[00:03:37] been beat down by society my whole life. Mm-hmm. Everyone has. And so it just took a minute to get
[00:03:43] the confidence to, like, put on the voice. Yeah. Put on the character, you know? And it was so wild
[00:03:49] because during foal watch it gets boring. Like, what are we going to do, right? We're all — it
[00:03:56] gets dark at 4:30, and then we're waiting on these foals to be born, and we're all just like,
[00:04:01] what are we going to do? We're staying up watching for this baby. So we started playing Dungeons and
[00:04:06] Dragons, and it's like a role-playing-esque game, and you roll dice, and it's like a game of chance,
[00:04:12] kind of, but there's storytelling, and it's really cool, and a lot of you play it. I didn't know
[00:04:18] that. Would you have played it? Maybe. I'm open to it. You would? I haven't played it,
[00:04:25] but I feel like — yeah. None of us would play. I feel like we should do a one-off one day, just
[00:04:33] to like let him dip his toes in. So many people — I feel like I know nothing about it. So like
[00:04:38] once you get that free will — I think free will is what gets people. I feel like this would be like,
[00:04:43] right, you could — you wake up in camp, the fire's going out. You're on a hunting trip. No. We got to
[00:04:50] be like — maybe, but yeah — okay. You're a dwarf on a hunting trip. You're on a hunting trip,
[00:04:58] and you hear this animal that you don't recognize a sound from. It's the middle of the night. What
[00:05:03] do you do? Like, what do you do? You can just do whatever you want. That's the fun of the game.
[00:05:09] You wake up in your tent to find all of your party has completely vanished, but their tents are still
[00:05:14] there. The fire's still there. Tell me how much I know about it. So like, at that point, that's
[00:05:18] all you know. What would you do? I'd grab my flashlight and I'd try to go after the animal to
[00:05:22] figure out what it is. You could say, I'm going to get out of here. I'm going to sneak 30 feet away
[00:05:26] and wait to see what happens. It's also a better setup though. Like, you know, everybody's gone,
[00:05:31] but you do hear some sounds coming from one tent in particular. What do you do? You either leave,
[00:05:37] you go investigate, and then you would roll your dice to see what happens with your decision.
[00:05:45] You know, as a matter of fact, I'm thinking there used to be this old survival game like that. Like
[00:05:50] I feel like my grandparents had it — surviving survival situations with bears and light traps and
[00:05:56] whatnot. Anyway, I don't know. We'll bring it up. But once we get the round table — so for instance,
[00:06:02] if you were like, I want to go sneak up and open the tent and peer in, but I don't want
[00:06:09] to be detected, they'd be like, "Okay, roll for stealth." And then if you roll a six with your
[00:06:14] d20, you're like, "Oo, you tripped into the tent and alerted everyone around you." Or if you roll a
[00:06:22] 19, maybe you get away with it. Maybe it's like, "Oh yeah, you look in, you successfully do what
[00:06:27] you want to do, and you see that it's an intruder. What do you do?" Like, it's really cool. I really
[00:06:33] just need to have Brendan's — or Brennan's — explanation of it just saved in my phone,
[00:06:38] because it's just so good, and it takes 30 seconds, and just the way he words it is like,
[00:06:42] oh, that's — you just hit him with one of these. Yeah. So we're bringing it back. It's back. We're
[00:06:47] bringing it back. We did have a game storyline, though. That's the thing. We are going to
[00:06:51] privately end our Icespire Peak campaign. Sorry — honestly, we didn't even live stream every single
[00:07:01] episode of that one. No. But here's what we're going to do. We're going to hire a Dungeon Master.
[00:07:09] Yes. So that all three of us can play together. And I think it's going to be fun. And then we can,
[00:07:14] you know, if we ever do one-offs or whatever, like one of them could DM or something. But it would
[00:07:18] be more fun. I would argue that this will be more fun than — playing with friends is fun. I've had a
[00:07:25] blast, but I think playing together — so if you're a DM in the Nashville area, honestly, here's the
[00:07:33] thing. Right now our D&D group is like two dudes and me. I would love if it was a girl. Yeah. Need
[00:07:42] to balance that out. Mm-hmm. If you are a DM — hop into the comments. Yeah, hop in the comments if we
[00:07:54] are actually looking for somebody. If you're an interested DM, hop in the comments. But anyway,
[00:07:59] speaking of outside people commenting, people have commented questions for you and Jonathan.
[00:08:08] They have, wanting to know a little bit of the more private life that you two have. Maybe what he
[00:08:16] knows, what he doesn't know, maybe what you know, what you don't know about each other. I did put a
[00:08:20] little thing up on Facebook. That's generally where I put things, by the way, for those that
[00:08:25] don't know. Facebook gets everything. Like TikTok is all videos. Snapchat is like stories. Facebook
[00:08:30] gets like the town photos, alerts, and things like that. Anyway, so I posted something on Facebook
[00:08:38] and I was like, "What do you want to know?" And I checked on it this morning and made a little list,
[00:08:43] but I think they have it pulled up and they're going to maybe surprise us with some questions. So
[00:08:48] we'll see how this goes. I'm just going to start it off by asking you, how did your hunting trip
[00:08:53] go? Because this past week he left me for seven full days and went to Canada. It was a lot of fun,
[00:08:59] and it would fix our issue of daylight because it was only about four and a half hours of
[00:09:06] darkness each night. What was that like to experience? Because I've always wanted to — like,
[00:09:11] you see it all the time. It's like, what is it like to have daylight all the time? We had
[00:09:15] a really weird schedule. We would hunt till about 1:00 in the morning or midnight or so
[00:09:20] as it started getting dark. Then we'd eat dinner at like 2:00 a.m. and then hang out for a minute,
[00:09:26] go to sleep at 3:30 or 4:00 in the morning as it was getting daylight, go to sleep, and then get up
[00:09:33] for breakfast at like noon. And then we'd hang out for a minute and start hunting at like 2:00 in the
[00:09:39] afternoon, and we'd hunt till about midnight again every day. Sick. And it was really cool. I did not
[00:09:45] come home with a bear, but it wasn't for lack of opportunity. I could have taken a couple of bears,
[00:09:52] but I was really set on shooting one with my bow, and that was — he saw a mama with three cubs,
[00:09:59] and they all stood up and looked at him from like 100 feet away. It was so cool. Saw a lot of
[00:10:05] color phase bears in that area. I was in northern Alberta, staying in wall tents, and it was really
[00:10:12] cold at night. It got cold — like it would be 76 degrees during the day sometimes, and it would get
[00:10:17] down into the mid-30s at night. It was big swings. So we had a big stove in our tent and we'd like
[00:10:25] crank it up. Y'all would just huddle for warmth, kind of. By morning, by the time we got up,
[00:10:33] it was actually cold, and then it would kind of warm up into late afternoon. Like, the temperature
[00:10:40] peaked at like 7:00 p.m. It was weird. He was hunting with two of our friends — Levi, who does
[00:10:48] our taxidermy and is a fantastic dude, and then Tristan, who y'all might know as Yappy. Yeah,
[00:10:55] he's Yappy Twan on YouTube. So I didn't even know he was like a big deal when we met him. A lot of
[00:11:02] people know who he is. I didn't know he was a big deal for a long time. And then like we were out
[00:11:08] somewhere and he got stopped and had someone take a picture with him, and I was like — everywhere
[00:11:13] we go, somebody stops him and says hey, wants a picture or something. I hope they make it,
[00:11:17] even though y'all didn't have a bear. I hope they make a lot of fun. I mean, I hope he makes a video
[00:11:22] out of it. I saw 23 bears. He'll put up a YouTube video of the whole week. It was a lot of fun.
[00:11:28] That's really cool. But my sleep schedule is way off since I got home. That brings me to — I know,
[00:11:34] I'm a sweet wife who had a steak dinner waiting on you. Not that I cooked it. I ordered it. It
[00:11:40] was nice. I didn't cook it, I ordered it. Okay. So that brings me to — I have some questions for
[00:11:49] you. Not that I frequently look at the Reddit pages. I don't. But I have some people that
[00:12:00] will tell me things every now and then. I honestly tell them like, "Don't tell me what's on there."
[00:12:04] But sometimes when it's funny, they tell me. And one of the funny things is they're like,
[00:12:08] "Oh yeah, everyone on Reddit is convinced that you just have Jonathan like a workhorse
[00:12:15] just working every day." He doesn't — like they're like, "She gets all the..." Like,
[00:12:19] he doesn't even get a dog he wants. He doesn't get to do anything. I just don't tell y'all when
[00:12:24] he's gone so you don't come skin me. Like, I just wait until after he comes home to tell you, like,
[00:12:30] "Oh yeah, Jonathan's on a week-long hunting trip," because I don't want someone to come like scout
[00:12:35] me — my Jonathan's gone, get her, literally. So yeah, don't feel bad for him. He just went on a
[00:12:44] bear hunt for a week. Okay, but — you want me to set the record straight on some of that?
[00:12:49] He'll make up — my first question from the comments was, "Does Jonathan feel neglected
[00:12:53] and used?" No. Not at all. Who is that? With four laughing faces? With four laughing faces. Okay.
[00:13:02] Yeah. And "use" was in quotations. We have some really good guys, and we have one in particular,
[00:13:09] his name is Wesley, that kind of is the tip of the spear on the majority of the construction that we
[00:13:14] do. And a lot of people think that I build all the structures, which is not the case. I have a
[00:13:19] big hand in some of them. Yeah, some of them. But I don't build all the barns, you know. So he's got
[00:13:28] several guys, we work together with our guys. And yes, I am busy — like, crazy busy — but I am not
[00:13:35] Katie's workhorse. I have plenty of free time. I am very blessed with what I get to go and do. This
[00:13:40] feels like one of those situations where it's like someone has the phone and you're like, "I promise
[00:13:46] I'm happy here," and behind the camera I'm like, see it. No, that's not the case at all. I mean,
[00:13:54] we need the kind of days that we had in Alberta with four hours of darkness. We could really get
[00:14:02] a lot more done because we can never get enough done. But for real, we do have a lot of fun,
[00:14:06] and I'm not just a servant to your needs. I mean, sup baby, take me out to dinner. Hey, yo. Anyway,
[00:14:16] so another one that is interesting that I saw — and I don't think we've ever brought this up
[00:14:21] unless you had more that you wanted to address — I don't know if we've ever really addressed this,
[00:14:27] maybe with you, but do either of you have any extreme phobias? Oh. I really don't mess with
[00:14:38] clowns. Maybe we have talked about that with you. I really don't. Yeah, I know there are some
[00:14:45] subjects that we have to steer clear from. I can't really think of anything. And ghost stuff. So,
[00:14:51] you know how I've told you — yeah. No, but you know how like I start crying during ghost stories,
[00:14:55] like paranormal stuff? Which is so like — I don't know if that's like sad. I don't know how to feel
[00:15:01] for that, because I think that's so funny, but like not in a making-fun-of-you way. I think
[00:15:06] that's one of my favorite qualities of you. Well, same kind of deal. So like in the time that the
[00:15:12] clowns were out and about — oh dude, I remember that. Dude, that had you like in the house. Like,
[00:15:19] I think Rebecca has a video of me sobbing, talking about it, really, somewhere. I mean, it was like,
[00:15:27] what, 2015? You want to talk about it? 2014, 2015. Like, there's a video of me sobbing talking about
[00:15:37] the clowns, and she's like — like, my mom and dad would make fun of it. They would exacerbate it,
[00:15:43] like they would be like, "Hey Katie, did you see the cl—" Like, they were absolutely terrorizing
[00:15:48] me. One spotted in Nolensville. Seriously. And then I used to run at night at school,
[00:15:55] like a dumb person, in Green Hills. I cannot believe you used to do that. I used to run
[00:16:00] until like 2:00 a.m. Yeah, I know. Oh my gosh. I know. Just me and my 5'2" little roommate,
[00:16:06] just out there. I mean, that's a horror movie waiting — having a great time. And I'm like,
[00:16:11] "So the clowns scared me, but not enough to keep me indoors at night?" Like, what the heck? No one
[00:16:16] said I was smart. We used to drive around and try to like catch one. I never saw one. We'd be like,
[00:16:23] "Oh, there's one on campus," and we would load up and get in the car. Were there ever actual crimes,
[00:16:30] you know, or was it just that people were spotting them like out in the woods with knives? I'm sure
[00:16:35] there were a few cases, but I think generally that was one of the more safer — like, I don't think
[00:16:40] anybody really got too messed up over it. Now that may not be true. I was going to say I don't
[00:16:44] know if it was hoaxes, like people posing out in the woods, and — you know what I'm saying? 2016,
[00:16:50] it says. Yes, it was definitely a thing. During the infamous 2016 clown craze, there were multiple
[00:16:56] well-documented instances of clown-related crimes and pranks. Were there like stabbings?
[00:17:03] At least 12 arrests for threats, stalking, and harassment, brandished weapons. So they were just
[00:17:11] creepily walking around — systemically crime, but I don't know if anybody was dying. Anyway,
[00:17:18] okay. This is — I guess — a more funny question. So a lot of people, when like this kidding season,
[00:17:27] we had a couple of does do — like, Honey, or no, it was well, Honey lost hers, but it was
[00:17:32] Bee and Blossom who were going to have their babies. And they're like, "If they have twins,
[00:17:36] you have to name them Ham and Cheese," because the last time that we got on here and talked,
[00:17:40] that was what you said. You were like — I wanted — what was it? Did we do a bet or something? I can't
[00:17:45] remember. There was some reason that I had to name something Ham and Cheese. Yeah. Did we talk
[00:17:50] about that in the last podcast? It's been a couple years since I've done one. There was a statute of
[00:17:54] limitations, though. Like we've passed it. We were past that. I've always said Ham and Cheese would
[00:18:03] be a great name for, you know, a newborn duo. And still — you know, we've had 50 or 60 animals
[00:18:09] born since then. No Ham and Cheese. Well, you're taking the opposite take. Okay, got it. Doubling
[00:18:17] down. Because before he's like, "No, baby, I don't care." And now, we need a Ham and Cheese. Ham and
[00:18:26] Cheese. I say it every time. We rehearsed this differently, and we were supposed to be off the
[00:18:32] Ham and Cheese train. So Bella is having twins — at least twins. And that was always my scapegoat.
[00:18:40] I was like, "Well, it has to be twins. It can't be triplets, can't be a singleton."
[00:18:43] I don't really care, but at some point — how many likes on the video to get a Ham and Cheese?
[00:18:52] And you would — I mean any — like you know the average — so I really don't on YouTube. I
[00:18:58] don't think I've paid attention that much. How many likes on this video for Ham and Cheese?
[00:19:04] 40,000 likes or views? Likes. Likes. All right. 40,000. So that's like for Bella. Yeah. When's
[00:19:14] she due? September. Oh yeah. We can definitely do it by then. Let's get a Ham and Cheese. No,
[00:19:20] it's not like by then. Like this video — like we say like in the first week. Two weeks. If it
[00:19:28] gets 40,000 likes by noon, or by 1:00 after an hour it's posted. Okay. Then we'll just
[00:19:34] do it until she has the babies. Okay. All right. All right. Fine. 40,000 is a lot.
[00:19:41] It is a lot. I'm not worried about it. It's a lot. We can do it. One might say unattainable.
[00:19:48] Okay. What did he pull up? Our average likes? He pulled up his YouTube channel and I just saw
[00:19:55] 7,800 subscribers. I was like, estimated revenue 53 cents. Like, oh no. Oh no. All right. That's
[00:20:05] me. Okay. So speaking of projects, there are a couple of questions surrounding the projects
[00:20:12] that you handle here on the farm at Running Springs, on the mini farm, just in general.
[00:20:18] A couple of them are kind of funny, a couple of them are really serious. So one question a lot of
[00:20:24] people are curious about is, do you take outside jobs anymore? So like this week, for example, I
[00:20:31] have to go back to a previous client and fix some stonework that he actually broke with his mower
[00:20:36] that I did a couple years ago. Do you actually have to fix that? I told him I would. I told
[00:20:40] him if he got the stone, then I would fix that. So occasionally I have a couple of clients that need
[00:20:46] me to do something just off the cuff. But no, it's been about two years since I've taken jobs. You
[00:20:58] know, when we decided that at a certain point I would focus more on what Katie's doing — we had so
[00:21:06] many needs around the farm and so many projects, like fencing and structures that needed to be
[00:21:12] done, that I stayed almost over a year booked out all the time. And at a certain point we said,
[00:21:18] we're too busy to continue this. Your side of things, the horse and cattle side of things,
[00:21:25] need more attention than what they're getting. So I finished out the jobs that I had. I think
[00:21:30] at that time I was like 14 months booked out. That was about two years ago. And since then, I've done
[00:21:39] some little jobs here and there for like my OG clients. But as of right now, no. What I am doing
[00:21:46] is referring out the people that still contact me to a lot of my buddies in the business and getting
[00:21:52] them a lot of work. And so it's not like I have no contact with clients. I get them a lot of work.
[00:21:59] But no, my sole focus now is — because when I met you, you had full-on care crews, and then you
[00:22:09] were doing really large — what would you call it — like commercial retaining wall jobs, like for new
[00:22:20] build houses and for — we had a lot of commercial contracts. We were cutting grass. We had landscape
[00:22:24] crews. We had hardscape crews. We did excavation. I mean, anything from clearing land, digging ponds
[00:22:30] to — so that's still why all the retaining walls and patios and all the things on the farm are so
[00:22:36] beautiful, because it kind of rolled right into what needed to be done around here. I mean,
[00:22:40] there's a lot of stuff that has just been kind of — neglected is not the right word — but kind of
[00:22:45] set aside, not upgraded. Yeah. And so, you know, I already had a lot of the equipment to roll
[00:22:53] right into what we needed to do here, like build retaining walls and fencing and barns. Oh yeah,
[00:23:00] we're about to fence. We've got another five miles of fencing about this summer. I know. Actually,
[00:23:05] tomorrow I'm starting on the new riding arena outside the newborn barn. Awesome. Did it make
[00:23:12] you anxious at all to step out of the commercial projects? Not necessarily. I do miss it. I love
[00:23:21] building things and getting paid for what I built with my hands and seeing happy customers
[00:23:26] and improving their living space. I really enjoy doing patios and outdoor kitchens and things like
[00:23:32] that that were aesthetically pleasing. A lot of the work we did was like drainage work. You can't
[00:23:37] really see that. It just makes people's lives easier, but they don't really like spending money
[00:23:44] on it. I liked the more aesthetic stuff that made people excited. Yeah, it looked pretty, and people
[00:23:49] would get excited about getting it completed. But yeah, I remember when we first started dating,
[00:23:53] and like when we were early — like I think like engaged maybe — and you weren't doing as many
[00:23:58] walls, you were doing more patios, and you'd have me come out to each patio to come see them. It was
[00:24:04] so cute. It was fun. It was cute. So with that being said — this might be kind of hard for you
[00:24:13] to answer — but this was a really good question that someone on Facebook asked. And they said,
[00:24:19] "What are you most proud of yourself for? What are you most proud of me for? And what
[00:24:26] are you most proud of something that we built together?" Something blue. Something — I don't
[00:24:33] know the other ones. Okay, old, something old. Okay. So, proud of with me, proud of with you,
[00:24:39] proud of with us. Yes. Proud of with me — I've always been about impact, and positive impact in
[00:24:46] other people's lives. And I feel like the business that I built, I was able to do that. I was able to
[00:24:53] go into people — come into their lives and help them with a need that made them happy. As far
[00:24:59] as like people that live in a subdivision, they wanted an outdoor patio for them to have a little
[00:25:04] more space to hang out outside and enjoy their own home more, or doing things for people that
[00:25:10] they couldn't do on their own. There was a lot of — especially like older, elderly women that needed
[00:25:16] some major help on their properties, that I loved helping them. They were always so appreciative.
[00:25:21] I've just always been about impact. As far as you — when I met you, social media wasn't a thing,
[00:25:30] but you did have a small following, and I could see right away that people just enjoyed watching
[00:25:37] your life and how you carried yourself, how you interacted with your animals and other people. And
[00:25:43] that's obviously grown on an exponential level. And kind of the same thing — impact. How many
[00:25:51] people come up to you and say, you know, "You're such a good influence on my daughter. We watch
[00:25:59] you every day. She wants to be just like you." Or women that come up to you and say, "You bring me
[00:26:06] so much joy in my life, just seeing your life." I think as far as us — I think that we're building
[00:26:17] something and we're just getting started. It's kind of happened so fast. Very proud of being able
[00:26:26] to employ so many people, and just be in so many people's lives. Again, going back to impact. But
[00:26:36] I really think we're just getting started, and it's really been a whirlwind the last 10 years. It
[00:26:41] doesn't feel like 10 years. Technically it's nine and a half. We're getting close to a decade, and
[00:26:48] it's really flown by, and I feel like we've been having fun the whole time. I'm just proud of — not
[00:26:54] what we built, but what we're continuing to build. Mm-hmm. That was a good way to put it. Hold on.
[00:27:08] Okay. So going off of what we're continuing to build — what's your dream project? Because I just
[00:27:17] want to go off of, like, you wanted to focus so much on impact. Even before I had my own business,
[00:27:24] like you employed friends, family, you know — it definitely brought this really cool environment
[00:27:31] and opportunities to people around you, which I think is amazing. And in that, like, you're so
[00:27:38] talented with stonework, with any type of machine, with looking at a piece of land and turning this
[00:27:45] barren piece of land into like a work of art. It's actually insane how talented he is. And
[00:27:50] so with all of that being said, if you could just pick a dream project, what would you do? So I've
[00:27:58] really enjoyed the shop build, and obviously this podcast room is in it. I have a workshop. We have
[00:28:03] like more of a workspace now that's multi-use. I look forward to someday — eventually we're going
[00:28:10] to outgrow this at some point and get to do this over. And there were some mistakes that I made
[00:28:16] with this build. There are some things we didn't add. And I someday really want to pour my heart
[00:28:24] and soul into a multifunctional building that encompasses all the things we left out, all the
[00:28:30] things that we could have done better. And I think it'd be a really fun space, as we continue to
[00:28:36] grow, to have different sections of that building, or different sections of that facility, that
[00:28:42] really hone in on the needs of our business and life going forward. I think that would be the most
[00:28:49] fun, because we did a lot of things right, but we could have done a lot of things differently. Yeah.
[00:28:54] Including the upstairs not being like seven-foot ceilings. Yeah. I mean, just little things like
[00:29:00] that — like where the podcast room is, I've got like this far above my head where the ceiling is,
[00:29:06] where if we would have done 18-foot sides, or 18-foot walls instead of 16-foot walls,
[00:29:11] just little things like that that we could tweak. But I think that'll be a lot of fun when that time
[00:29:16] comes. I'm down for all kinds of projects. I mean, I look at everything that's interesting. I would
[00:29:22] have thought that you would have said something with stone. I mean, I love doing stonework. I take
[00:29:29] every project head on. Everything's — I love adult puzzles. How to see a need, fix a need. Like,
[00:29:36] one thing that we dream about is — I mean, this is way in the future — but eventually, like you said,
[00:29:43] if we grow, we move, we build. I want a pool. I was just about to say a pool. I want a pool. And I
[00:29:52] know you've got all the goods to make it a really cool pool. You heard it here first. In the future,
[00:30:00] our pool will be slick. Slick. Like, are we talking about for you a pool? Yes. But I will
[00:30:09] let y'all use it. I don't know why I was thinking about Kennedy's Pond. I am looking forward to
[00:30:14] designing a pool. Okay. So you joke, but like — salt water — when we do move, I will be consulting
[00:30:23] someone on how to include ponds into a couple of pastures, because not every pasture needs a pond,
[00:30:30] but like if you go to Texas or whatever, there are ponds all over the place in pastures. And so
[00:30:37] you can do it in a more safe way than what we just naturally have here in Tennessee,
[00:30:41] like the rocks and stuff. So they'd be bougie ponds. They'd be very cushy ones that we built
[00:30:47] specifically not to hurt my horses. But yeah, I think she will get her pond at some point. So you
[00:30:54] brought up that we've been together almost 10 years. Yep. Nine and a half to be exact. Nine
[00:30:59] and a half years. We're a little over nine and a half, actually. Thank you. That's how long
[00:31:04] you've been together total. Yeah. Did you know it's our wedding anniversary next week? Yeah,
[00:31:08] I actually thought about that last week. I haven't gotten you anything. I forgot. Like, so much stuff
[00:31:16] has been happening that I'm like, "Oh my gosh, we've been — that's our wedding anniversary." I
[00:31:20] don't know if I was supposed to share, but he did say he had something pretty cool planned for you.
[00:31:27] Big — huge — bigger than any other anniversary present you've ever had. And it's something
[00:31:34] that's going to blow you out of the water. Yeah. He was so appreciative about the bear trip. These
[00:31:40] earrings were the last one. Thanks. Six days out. Those — trash, dude. Compared to this one. Trash.
[00:31:52] Well, so that's our sixth wedding anniversary, which is insane. It's crazy. Like, it feels
[00:31:58] like — time goes by here so much. Like, he hasn't been on a podcast in like two years. I was like,
[00:32:04] it feels like this has all just been one long year. Yes. It's like — it's because we don't take
[00:32:09] breaks. Maybe that's it. Yeah, I think that's it. It's because there are no breaks. There's no time
[00:32:16] away. It's like, oh, it's just Christmas again this year, you know? It's just like, there we go.
[00:32:20] It does feel like that. It's coming. And so like, we've been married six years almost, and then our
[00:32:28] together 10 years is in November. We used to say some like BS date of our dating date, and now we
[00:32:37] just go off the day we met, because the day we met, it was done deal. Pretty much seen you every
[00:32:44] day since. You did go kiss a girl the next day after you met me, but then you came right back.
[00:32:50] Remember that? Nope. You don't remember going downtown the next day and kissing a girl? But you
[00:32:56] told me about it, which was odd. I definitely did. And then after that, we were together like every
[00:33:03] day and we were dating. Yep. And I remember being like a month in, and I went to go get my nails
[00:33:09] done because Dani came into town to go to our little Christmas trip. And we went to go get our
[00:33:15] nails done, and I was like, "I am going to get my nails done like this when I marry Jonathan." And
[00:33:18] she's like, "Girl, you've been with this boy for like a month." So I knew right away. But anyway,
[00:33:26] with that being said — they want to know how have I changed, because you met me at 20 and
[00:33:33] now I'm 30. Isn't that crazy? How have I changed? Not physically, necessarily, because — I was very
[00:33:44] hot at 20. Okay, that's just — that's gone. Gone. Still very hot. Oh, thank you. And it's
[00:33:53] been fun watching you grow into and adapt into that role of, you know, being in the public eye,
[00:34:02] having employees, having to make decisions that you never thought you would, being an animal
[00:34:07] owner of a large volume of animals and not just a few. People depend on you, animals depend on you,
[00:34:17] there are lives at stake with every decision. And you've really grown into that role over the
[00:34:22] last 10 years. So I made a post the night before I turned 30 where I was kind of reflecting on my 20s
[00:34:30] and just talking about, okay, entering my 20s here — this is the state that I was in when I entered
[00:34:37] into my 20s. So that was before I met you, because I was like six months into being 20 when I met
[00:34:42] you. And then, like, here I am at 30. And at 20, I — had I been kicked out of college yet when you
[00:34:52] met me? No, you were still — a few months after I met you, you stopped going to college because they
[00:35:00] asked me to. And because you didn't have a choice. So I like was in a pretty not-great spot. Well,
[00:35:11] I remember you trying to figure out what direction you wanted to go in. I mean, you could have worked
[00:35:16] for your dad. I remember the exact moment in time when you came to me and said, "I think I want to
[00:35:23] give this social media thing a shot." And at that point, it was more like hunting industry focused.
[00:35:29] But I remember the exact point in time that you came to me and said that. And I also remember
[00:35:34] the exact moment in time when you came to me and said, "I want to do more lifestyle stuff
[00:35:41] with social media." That would have been more like 2022. Yeah. Four or five years ago. Both — I just
[00:35:51] remember everything about it, and they were very defining moments in our lives. Yeah. Jonathan's
[00:35:58] the OG of OGs. Well, that's the thing. So when he met me, I had like 4,000 followers on Instagram,
[00:36:06] which I think is like small fry. I think that's — for a person who isn't trying to make social media
[00:36:16] a part of their life, 4,000 followers is like a good little chunk. It is. Yeah, for sure. And
[00:36:21] it was purely off of like horse show people. Yeah. You've been doing some Vine videos and things like
[00:36:26] that. I was Vine famous for a minute. I had like 20,000 on there just from singing. And so I didn't
[00:36:35] know at that point that you could even make money on social media. I didn't. That wasn't a plan.
[00:36:40] Like, I don't think back then you really could. It was just right on the cusp of influencers — like,
[00:36:47] I'm sure YouTubers were getting brand deals. It was at the tipping point of social media being
[00:36:54] like the death of billboards and magazines, and now that's how everybody advertises.
[00:36:59] Well, I would say it happened like — I met you in November. My picture that blew up, blew up
[00:37:06] in April, and then I didn't make a dime until September. So I was almost a year into meeting
[00:37:13] you when stuff started happening. So you were here pre-social media. Yep, I was. You weren't
[00:37:20] just looking for a sugar mama or nothing. No, I got one. They want to know — can you name his
[00:37:35] tools? He has more tools than I have animals. I promise. You know what, that would be cool, to get
[00:37:41] a small assortment like a bucket. I can name some of his equipment. Next podcast I'm just going to
[00:37:46] start. Yeah, I've seen that trend. What is this? I know he has two excavators. I know he has two
[00:37:55] skid steers. I know he has a John Deere tractor. I know all of his skid steers and his mini skids and
[00:38:04] all that good stuff. Or no, your mini skid isn't it — Vermeer? It's a Vermeer. Yeah. I am shocked
[00:38:09] that you knew that. See, that other stuff is Cat — Caterpillar. Yep. Maybe that could be — hey,
[00:38:16] in itself that's pretty good. And then truck-wise, I think we've got a bunch of white Fords. A bunch
[00:38:25] of white Fords. A bunch of '73s. I would equate this to somewhat knowing that it's a horse.
[00:38:34] You'd be like, he's got an excavator. Well, Katie,
[00:38:38] she's got a — that's a horse. So the one — this would be like, well, what's the model name? Like,
[00:38:44] what's the model name? The excavator that he just got is the — the biggest mini X.
[00:38:52] No. No. It's the smallest regular X. No. Sounds like we need to do this.
[00:39:07] 323. Oh, 323. I'm just — now see, this is naming the horses. Yeah. What do you mean? It's from two
[00:39:14] years ago. You watched it happen. Yeah. I guess I should — I'm not worried about it. Like, I guess
[00:39:24] look out there more. We have a dump truck named Dumplin. Dumplin. You can pick the 10. Dumplin.
[00:39:30] You can pick whatever 10 things you think she can't name, and you can pick 10 things that you
[00:39:34] think he can't name, and you can compete. Speaking of, one of the things people want me to do is
[00:39:41] start a timer and see how many horses you can name in a minute. All right, let's go. Okay, we need to
[00:39:49] establish some prizes, I think, for like — if you can name 10, if you hit 20, if you hit — you know,
[00:39:58] it's bigger stuff. Let's try it. I don't think I even get half of them, but we can try it. I mean,
[00:40:04] honestly, in a minute, which is 60 seconds — there are like around 40 horses at this point.
[00:40:09] Too? Or just big horses? I would allow — I would allow minis. Yeah, you have to throw in the — I
[00:40:14] would allow minis. So let's just go ahead and get a little timer up on here. Okay. Got about
[00:40:20] 15 seconds. We're off, and then I'm going to be like, I thought that was — word for word. Okay.
[00:40:29] You've got the timer. Are we okay? So should we do it where — I guess I can't really make
[00:40:35] it to where it's like, see if y'all can do more — because you're gonna hear him name,
[00:40:39] and then it's gonna be him. Yeah. Yep. Let's do it. It's just got to be him. Okay. Three,
[00:40:44] two, one, go. Bo, Beyoncé, Ginger, Erlene, Waylon Waylon, Denver, Maggie,
[00:40:58] Trudy, Regina, Karen, Glenn. I knew I'd blank on a bunch of them. I'm so impressed,
[00:41:10] though. I can envision several others. Oh my goodness. You're good. Red horse, calm down.
[00:41:21] I can't. Stay calm. I can't remember the bay. Paint horses. Oh my goodness. I know one.
[00:41:32] I know so many more. Do you? Yeah. Being put on the spot. I was really
[00:41:37] confident that I'd get a lot more. Well, you could have probably done
[00:41:40] some more. We're almost there. You have five seconds. Throw one more in there.
[00:41:46] That's bad. All right. I get nine. No, you got 12. 12. I think I can name a lot more than that.
[00:41:54] That is a thing, though. We used to play a game where it's like, name 10 magazines in 30 seconds,
[00:41:58] or 10 cereals. Everybody knows 10 cereals. Everybody knows 10 colors,
[00:42:01] until you're timed for 30 seconds, and then it's freaking hard. You say like the three, you know,
[00:42:05] and can't remember anything else. I didn't even say Annie or Gracie. No. Sophie, Charlotte. Yeah.
[00:42:11] I mean that — Melody, Kimberly, Molly, Maggie, Daphne — the tall black ones. Wheezy. Yeah. Indie.
[00:42:22] Indie was the one I was stuck on. Already said. See, there were so many. Opal. After a while,
[00:42:30] you'll be able to just pull out — Kennedy. Happy. Wow. Happy. Buttercup. Easy ones. Blondie. Ariel.
[00:42:39] Blondie and Ariel — I was trying to think. Crazy. I got stuck trying to think — Monica. I was trying
[00:42:44] to think of Indie and Gracie, and that's what held me up. Well, I think you did better than
[00:42:49] I thought. I really had more than 12 in me. I was thinking maybe 25. This year we had seven foals.
[00:42:56] Can you name them? No. Just — no. Not even trying. I honestly can't really — you were there for every
[00:43:03] single birth. I know. But it was action-packed. To be fair, they're not named at the birth. Yeah. Am
[00:43:12] I the only one who might have a hot take of like, I feel like maybe I was more attached to a certain
[00:43:17] round of foals than the others? Like, maybe it's like more the season — the foaling season. Like,
[00:43:25] I don't feel like this was — this was probably a great foaling season, but like wasn't my
[00:43:31] favorite. Like maybe my favorite foals — not my most — I don't remember a lot of them. Who
[00:43:34] were your favorites? My favorite was season two. I think the second one was the most. So
[00:43:39] 2024. So that'd be when Molly, Wall-E, Daffany, Fred, Howie — and I think you'll notice, like,
[00:43:46] all the jokes I make were like Fred earlier in the thing. Like those are the names that I still — I
[00:43:50] think like after that it started just becoming something that was like getting used to. Also,
[00:43:54] I will say with the addition of Elena on the team, y'all don't really go out in the pasture
[00:43:59] just to take pictures anymore. Yeah. Not as much. So we're not knowing the names, and we can change
[00:44:04] that. I think the one that sticks out in my mind is Penelope, because that was the first one that
[00:44:09] me and you did by ourselves with no outside help. Mm-hmm. And Trudy did it standing up, and that was
[00:44:16] just so stressful because it was the first one we had ever done just us two. Yeah. I remember
[00:44:21] because we were like, "Oh crap, she's going to have her freaking baby." And this was like we
[00:44:26] had just met. Like this was fresh into us meeting. And so we went to Walgreens at like 11 o'clock at
[00:44:31] night to go get enemas because I didn't have any enemas. Yeah. Just freaking raw dogging it. So
[00:44:38] we talked a little bit about the public eye, and talking about how I've adapted. But how have you
[00:44:46] felt during this whole thing? Because pretty quickly into us being together, I was having
[00:44:53] followers. I was having people watch, you know, for new posts, and including our relationship in
[00:44:59] it at times. And we were hunting and we were going to all these trade shows. And I don't know — I
[00:45:06] feel like we weren't really watched-watched until the last few years. But I mean, I don't know — how
[00:45:14] do you feel about that? I can remember it being an adjustment right away. You know, I never
[00:45:23] really cared about like the floods of DMs from guys shooting their shot or anything. When you
[00:45:29] first kind of got more attention and people would come up to you, I didn't really know what to think
[00:45:36] at the time. You know, I'm obviously very used to it now. Especially the last couple of years,
[00:45:41] it's kind of gone nuclear. But you know, I haven't changed myself. You haven't changed yourself.
[00:45:49] We've always been a team, always trusted each other. It hasn't really affected me. You know,
[00:45:56] I've obviously worried about your safety to an extent, being in the public eye, but for the most
[00:46:02] part haven't really given it a thought — about, you know, that it's changed much in our lives. You
[00:46:10] know, we get people — I run people off from the farm that are rude and pull in, or trying to be
[00:46:16] creepy or whatever, and I go run them off pretty regularly. One thing that I think has kept it — I
[00:46:23] don't know — kind of out of our relationship to an extent, is we're not like — yes, it is lifestyle,
[00:46:32] because it's about my lifestyle as a horse breeder and as an equestrian and as a farm caretaker and
[00:46:39] whatnot. But we're not blasting our relationship on socials. So people can speculate about whatever
[00:46:47] they want, but we're not — I'm not — like if we get in a fight or whatever, neither one of us
[00:46:52] is going on there being like, "I'm so pissed about this." And a lot of couples, you know, are kind of
[00:46:59] in the public eye together. And it's more you than me. But a lot of couples, you know, air all their
[00:47:07] stuff out for views, right? And we keep kind of that part of our lives separate. So not everybody
[00:47:14] knows everything, even though they might think they do. Speaking of that, one of the questions
[00:47:19] was, "What do you find most annoying about Katie?" And then, "What's your favorite thing about?" No,
[00:47:25] that wasn't actually on there. We'll follow it with that. Annoying. Mm-hmm. Is it my chronic
[00:47:34] lateness? I would say that is — I've learned how to combat that. If we have to be somewhere
[00:47:43] at 8:00, I tell her we have to be there at 7:15. And typically a 45-minute buffer is pretty good.
[00:47:48] I mean, I've adapted in ways to improvise. I adapt, overcome. I hate being late. I'm very
[00:47:56] punctual about not being late. I like to be early. And I married somebody who is always late. And I
[00:48:04] just had to work around that. I don't try to be late. It's just your concept of time. It's just
[00:48:11] who you are. I don't try — like I will think that I have plenty of time, and it's just — because
[00:48:18] it's been long enough. I want to see how many horses y'all can rattle off. But first off,
[00:48:23] I want to know — because I didn't give y'all the answers — who thinks they can name the 2026 foals?
[00:48:29] It's certainly been long enough for me to have completely forgotten everything. That's what I'm
[00:48:32] saying. You've forgotten now. Yeah. I cannot name the 2026 foals. I can name — oh my gosh,
[00:48:36] no. Max, maybe three. I can definitely do two. We literally went over their names today for a video,
[00:48:48] but I was focused on the other aspects of everything. I really don't think I could.
[00:48:52] I'm going to start — give me one. No. Like just a 2026 — I can give you one. Moose. Moose was this
[00:49:01] year. Yeah. Yeah, he was a big one. I feel like there's always a Moose every year. Technically,
[00:49:07] there's always a bigger boy. Maybe it was Wall-E one year. When was Moose born? January 31st,
[00:49:13] 2026. Hey, he's so big. Yeah. And also, he looks like a horse already. So I'm going to time you. 30
[00:49:21] seconds. Nope. We're giving you a minute. Okay. Us collectively. Collectively. Okay. All right. Yeah,
[00:49:26] we collectively. All right. Three, two, one, go. Moose. Wait, just the foals? Oh my gosh.
[00:49:35] Alternate. And if one's struggling, tap in. Yeah. Alternate. But is this just the foals, or all
[00:49:41] horses? All horses. All right. Okay. Three, two, one, go. Sophie, Charlotte, Trudy, Gracie, Happy.
[00:49:52] Raven, Indie, Gunner, Melody, Denver, Waylon, Happy — you already said Happy. I said Happy.
[00:50:04] Give me a girl. Wall-E. Give me a girl. Benedict. Benedict. Molly. Opal. We already said Charlotte,
[00:50:20] right? Yes. Okay. What's the other black one? Not Raven. You already said Indie. Phoebe. Yeah. Okay.
[00:50:30] Phoebe. Ethel. Annie. Kennedy. We already said Kennedy. No. Foals. Foals. I'm not thinking of old
[00:50:44] ones we don't have anymore. Okay. That was nice. That was good. 19. 19. I'm okay with that. So
[00:50:51] collectively, you both got less than me on my own. I was going to say they got even more than me,
[00:50:56] together. On my own I would have crushed it. I could have done that. The time would have crushed
[00:51:01] me more than anything. I like the pressure of the time — I would have been able to name one.
[00:51:04] I don't think having him at my side — I felt a lot more. Yeah, I think we did better. You can
[00:51:09] do anything together. I was confident. I think by my side just really gave me the confidence.
[00:51:18] That's right. That's teamwork. I can't believe that I couldn't think of Gracie, Annie, Ethel,
[00:51:22] and Kennedy. At least I just blanked. Loved. All right. Well, I hope y'all enjoyed this episode.
[00:51:30] Maybe you'll come on more. I don't know. I would love to. Let's make it not two years again. Yeah,
[00:51:35] this was a good one. Yeah. Maybe a year. I don't know. We'll see. Maybe every other week. Good God,
[00:51:40] that's a lot. Weekly. Weekly. He hosts him. Okay. Well, thank you for coming on, baby,
[00:51:46] because this was very last minute and he's very tired. But I hope y'all enjoyed. If you have
[00:51:50] questions or topics that you would like for us to talk about, put them in the comments and we'll see
[00:51:55] you in the next one. Also, Jonathan, before we go — did you know that your daughter was here
[00:52:00] the whole time? No. And Kimmy's been under there the whole time? She's just — oh my goodness. Big
[00:52:08] stretch. She was just here hanging out the whole time. She's so warm. She's so snuggly. She didn't
[00:52:16] move a muscle. Her eye — is your eye shut? Her eye was like stuck shut. Okay, now we can.