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Each side has done both things. <Laugh>,

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they're both teaching each

other the lesson because we

only resent things on the

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outside that represent parts of us

on the inside that we're ashamed of.

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Well, if we pay close

attention to the media today,

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we certainly see a little

sensationalism is going on.

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And a lot of high polarities going

on dealing with the war and peace

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issues in the Middle East and

possibly Ukraine and Russia.

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And there's other parts of the

world that this is happening too,

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but they're not necessarily in the media.

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Whatever gets the most attention

ends up in the media, right?

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That's the one that gives the most,

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whatever will sell the media

is the one that's focused on,

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Ukrainian war and the Russian War is a

bit diminished now because the Israeli

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and Palestinian wars got more

media worthiness. But anyway,

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it's interesting about human behavior.

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I would like to make a comment about

it because I see the same things in

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individuals as I see in collectives.

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When an individual is living by priority,

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doing something deeply meaningful,

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doing something that's fulfilling and

feel like it's achieving or they're

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achieving their objective in life, they're

more stable, they're less volatile,

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they're more fulfilled,

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and they're able to withstand

emotional vicissitudes and they

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don't react. But the second,

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they're not feeling that

they're fulfilling their

objectives and not feeling

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fulfilled, they tend to go down

into their amygdala response,

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the subcortical area of the brain, and

they go into survival. And imagine this,

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if you're at work and you

prioritize your day and you're very,

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very inspired by the day,

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and you really knock it

out of the ballpark and you

get everything done on your

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agenda and your list of

priorities, and then you go, wow,

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I'm on top of the world

today, things are great,

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and then you come home and

there's all kind of chaos at home,

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you can manage it and handle it because

you're still in your executive function

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and governed.

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But if you go into work that day and you

got bombarded by all kind of things and

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put fires out all day and

never got to the agenda,

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never got anything priority

done, you come home,

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you're going to be part of the problem.

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You're going to be emotionally reactive

and you're probably going to go to

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extremes and emotion. Well, the same

thing goes on in societies, collectively.

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When a country or people in the country

feel that they're fulfilling their

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objectives and achieving their

aims and feeling grateful for life,

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they can handle lots of changes and

challenges that go on in their life.

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They're more resilient and adaptable.

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But when they're not and they feel that

they're not fulfilling what's meaningful

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or their goals and objectives,

whether they're fantasies or real,

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but when they're not doing it,

they get emotional, they get angry.

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And when they do, they

go into their amygdala.

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And when they get in their amygdala,

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they start becoming subjectively biased

and misinterpret the information around

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them and react instead of proact.

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We have kind of a two types of thinking

process. We have systems one thinking,

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which is emotional

reaction before we think.

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And we have systems two thinking where

we think objectively before we react.

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Well, right now you can see that

there's a bit of emotional reaction,

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not as much thinking going on sometimes.

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A lot of people are just reacting

impulsively and instinctfully,

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and they are setting up fantasies

of world peace and nightmares of war

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and they're highly polarized.

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Whenever we're highly polarized and

blind with subjective bias or any of the

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biases there are, there's 180 of them,

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we tend to make decisions that aren't

necessarily thoughtful <laugh>.

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And then what we do is

we get an individual,

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usually if you look at

the collective society,

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the majority of people are

kind of neutral. Just like

in Palestine and Israel,

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the majority of people, Palestinian

or Israeli, live by each other,

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they're friends with each other,

they get along with each other.

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But there's always a few

that are more radical,

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they're a little bit more in their

amygdala, a little bit more emotional,

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a little bit more systems one thinking.

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And they're usually the

ones that are outspoken.

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There's usually the ones that

get sensated in the media,

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because that's what sells. That's what

gets you attentive and watch the media,

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the sensations and polarities.

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And I watched this in New York <laugh>.

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There was an Iranian controversy

back, way back in the 90s.

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And my wife and I were walking down

Madison Avenue and there was New York one

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interviewing people on the street about

what was going on in Central Park on the

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demonstrations on the Iranian controversy.

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And there was Dolph Lundgren and his

wife were walking right in front of us.

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They lived next door and they were walking

in front of us and they interviewed

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them. And he was very rational,

very reasonable, and very objective.

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And I listened to his interview as we

stopped for a second and it was very

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sensible information.

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Then they interviewed me and I gave

what I thought was sensible information.

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And then a wino came up that was drinking

something out of a bottle in a paper

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bag and was drunk and they came up and

they interviewed him about it and he

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said, nuke them all. And

he was very volatile. Well,

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when they watched the TV that night,

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neither one of us Dolph and I didn't

get on, but the wild guy got on,

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because that's what sells,

that's what sensates.

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So then people watch the

media and they see that,

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and they think that's

what's real out there.

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The average person from Israel and

Palestine are loving individuals,

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trying to raise a family,

trying to survive,

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trying to do what they

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But then you've got the few that are

more polarized, that are more volatile.

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are voted by those people,

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and then they have to live up to

fulfilling some of those people and it

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escalates. There's a law called

the Law of eristic escalation.

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And the law of eristic escalation is

an interesting thing in chaos theory.

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Anytime you have an ideologue,

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which is an individual who basically has

an ideal about what they think should

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be done, it's usually proud and, you

know, not necessarily globally thought,

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but usually individualized,

narcissistic kind of projections.

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If they think 'if everybody

would be doing this,

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we would finally have a great positive

outcome.' And so they come along with a

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bias view and project that bias view,

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and an equal and opposite bias

comes in to counterbalance it.

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And the more this one is addicted to

right, which is an amygdala response,

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the systems one's response,

the other one becomes right.

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And this thing escalates until there's

a little war into a bigger war,

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into a possibly global war <laugh>.

And this thing can escalate.

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And when you do, you're

not listening to reason,

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you're listening to subjective bias,

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and there's no executive

function overruling it.

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And when an individual does this,

they get outta whack, they get,

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they get outta control, and they lose

it. We've all had moments like that.

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And the same thing sometimes

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Even governments do that.

They're like an individual.

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They can get out of their executive

function, go into their amygdala,

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go into subjective bias,

get into high polarities,

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want to be addicted to being right,

project their values onto others,

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then the other escalation occurs that

projects their values back and you get

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black and white thinking;

'they're evil, I'm good.'

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They think you're evil and they're good.

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And all you do is get a battle.

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And the battle is there as a feedback

mechanism to let you know that you're not

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seeing both sides. Actually,

and if you study philosophy,

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there's a thing called the dialectic.

The dialectic was, I have a proposition,

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then somebody comes with

an opposite proposition,

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and the purpose is not a debate to

make you right, that's foolishness.

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But the benefit is that you learn a

little bit from what they have to say and

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maybe change your view and they learn

from what you have to say and change your

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view, and eventually you come

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the law of eristic escalation is basically

when somebody throws something out

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there and somebody debates

and fights it back,

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and both want to be right and it escalates

into something that's just a conflict

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and neither one of them grow from it.

But if they go in there with a dialectic,

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not the debate, but a dialectic,

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and they go in there with the objective

of finding the truth between the two,

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because both sides have

a bit of the truth.

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If all of a sudden we come

from the executive function,

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we're more likely to

be dialectic oriented,

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more than being right and debate oriented,

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we're more likely to find out and

grow from each other and listen.

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If you look very carefully,

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there's an old biblical statement from

the New Testament that says in Romans

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2-1, whatever you judge in others, beware,

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you do the same thing. Now,

I don't know about if you,

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but I've certainly studied enough about

history to see that every one of these

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people in the conflicts, collectively,

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have done everything that the

other ones are judging <laugh>.

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I have a teaching in my

Breakthrough Experience program,

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method I call the Demartini Method,

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where I hold people accountable and I

ask them, what specific trait, action,

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or inaction do you perceive

this individual displaying

or demonstrating that you

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despise most?

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And then I have them now go to a moment

where and when you perceive yourself

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displaying or demonstrating

the same behavior.

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Well that not only occurs individually,

but that can be collectively.

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If one collective group that's fighting

with another collective group asks,

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where do I do that in my collective

group? Where have I done that?

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You'll find out,

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very carefully if you're honest and get

off your high horse and actually look

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honestly and deeply, you will find that

each side has done both things, <laugh>,

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they're both teaching

each other the lesson.

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Because we only resent things on the

outside that represent parts of us on the

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inside that we are ashamed

of. When we point our finger,

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we're pointing our

finger back at ourselves.

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And what we do is we go into a

dissociate from what we're ashamed of,

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to go into pride and pretend we're too

proud to admit what we see in them inside

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us. And this is where the law of eristic

escalation escalates further into

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rightness and wrongness.

Instead of actually owning

the trait, calming it down,

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taking on what you have condemned.

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And when you actually realize that

whatever you condemn in others,

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you tend to breed,

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attract and become until you eventually

get humbled and realize it's you.

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So each side is doing the very thing

the other side is claiming <laugh>.

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and I've shown that in thousands and

thousands of people around the world,

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and it works on a collective scale also.

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The sociology and the laws of sociology

are reflections of social individuality.

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So my advice for these

conflicts, as an individual,

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you teach best by exemplification.

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If you get escalated and get all

emotional and want to take a side,

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all you're doing is adding to the very

conflict that you think you'd like to

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stop.

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But the reality is that we grow most

<laugh> at the border of support and

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challenge and the peace

and war you might say.

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So just know if you calm it

down yourself within yourself,

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and each of the individual takes on the

responsibility to calm down their own

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emotions and not take an exaggerated side,

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you're likely to assist us in resolving

the conflict and moving forward in both

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growing and maturing and seeing the both

sides and coming up with some sort of

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objective, real, real solution.

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You're solution oriented

when you see both sides,

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you're problem oriented when you

see one side. And that's all it is,

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is missing information.

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So just wanted to share a message on that

just in case that might be of help to

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your perception. The greatest

teacher's exemplification,

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if you exemplify a more stable life and

be willing to see both sides and realize

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that all the people involved

are just human beings,

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they want to be loved and

they want to be who they are,

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and they want to fulfill their lives.

Don't put labels on people. <Laugh>,

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you know,

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Palestinians and Israelis and Russians

and Ukrainians are all loving individuals

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doing what they can to try to

survive. They have ideologies.

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And if you get staunchly addicted

to being right in your ideology,

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you escalate the equal and

opposite ideology in order

to teach you the lesson of

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not being proud. When you're proud,

you're not authentic. When you're shamed,

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you're not authentic. When you're

being loved, you're authentic.

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So that's something to consider when

you're watching and taking a side.

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If you take a side and make somebody

wrong and point your finger, it's you,

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look at yourself,

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and then look again and realize that

you're adding to the escalation.

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If you actually take the

time to govern yourself,

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you assist people in governing

themselves. So it's a dripple effect.

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If you love yourself and govern yourself,

you help other people do the same.

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Just wanted to share that message in

case that's useful in your particular

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situation. But just know that

there's deep inside all these people,

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they're not the labels we make,

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they're human beings that

want to fulfill their lives.

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Keep that in mind when you're

thinking about what's going on.

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And beware of the sensationalism that

media does. They sell polarities,

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not necessarily objective truths.