Speaker A

Yeah.

Speaker A

Claudia, did you want to ask Reese anything before we get out of here?

Speaker B

No, I, I'm, I just want to thank you for your time.

Speaker B

And I want to say that I've actually learned a lot.

Speaker B

I'm gonna go Google the story of Job.

Speaker B

I'm not super well versed in the Bible, but that comes with, like, the culture I grew up in.

Speaker B

I mean, you know, I lived in a, in a communist island up until like the age of seven, so religion wasn't allowed.

Speaker B

Religion wasn't allowed.

Speaker B

Which is interesting.

Speaker B

My moon and SAG kind of like repels it.

Speaker B

But I'm very interested in it because, you know, when I came to this country, it was very much like, oh, you know, you pick up, you pick a political party and you pick a religion.

Speaker B

You know, wow.

Speaker A

Okay, I got it.

Speaker A

Which one?

Speaker A

Which one?

Speaker A

Which one?

Speaker B

But it's true.

Speaker B

It's true.

Speaker B

And so.

Speaker B

But I never vibed with any of

Speaker A

them in Miami, by the way.

Speaker B

Yeah, I'm in Miami, Florida.

Speaker B

I'm in the, in the melting pot of the entire United States, which is very heavy over here right now, but ground zero.

Speaker B

Yeah, but astrology, like, did it for me.

Speaker B

And you, everything that you said about how it made you feel, I felt the same exact way.

Speaker B

And I actually have spoken to, I spoke to one astrologer and he actually told me that the astrology community was not very friendly.

Speaker B

And I didn't believe him.

Speaker B

You know, I didn't believe he was white, but I was just kind of like, well, that's weird, you know, because I thought the same thing.

Speaker B

Like, astrologers should be high minded people.

Speaker B

I mean, like, white.

Speaker B

We do this.

Speaker B

Like we have.

Speaker B

You have to love astrology to do this, like, for real, you know?

Speaker A

Yeah.

Speaker A

So I, that's why I got into it.

Speaker A

And I also start seeing other things.

Speaker A

Like when it came to black heroes, there were no black astrologers delineating those charts.

Speaker A

The charts of Malcolm X, Martin Luther King, they'll tell you, oh, there are such a rising.

Speaker A

You'll be like, okay.

Speaker A

And you just flow with it because these are the elder astrologers who've been in tradition for years.

Speaker A

But when I started testing those ascendants, I saw that they were wrong.

Speaker A

I, I, you know, say my, my mentor rectified Malcolm X's chart to Scorpio ascended.

Speaker A

And I went behind him and tested him.

Speaker A

What he did versus what they said he was before a sag or Taurus rising and, or Malcolm's chart, you know, saying Martin's chart, you know, Saying same thing with Michael Jackson.

Speaker A

And they tell you, oh, he's a Leo.

Speaker A

He was a Pisces.

Speaker A

But let me tell you something.

Speaker A

Malcolm Jackson's head's going on fire, okay?

Speaker A

And he died because of the medicine that they gave him, messed with his brain and his blood, right?

Speaker A

So I'm just gonna give you a tidbit.

Speaker A

Everybody was in the eighth place of his death, all right, in injury, and he burnt half of his face, and he always got surgery on his face, right?

Speaker A

Did he not do this?

Speaker A

Okay?

Speaker A

And so.

Speaker A

And if you looked at his lifestyle, you put Virgo to descendants.

Speaker A

Started looking when he did the Pepsi Cola commercial, when Thriller came out, when he had.

Speaker A

When he built one of them, that Wonderland.

Speaker A

Wonderland, all that kind of stuff.

Speaker A

Virgo matches Virgo.

Speaker A

And the progression from Virgo, the secondary progression from Virgo and the tertiary progression, okay?

Speaker A

And the lunar progression from Virgo will show you that he's a Virgo at the ascendant, not a Leo rising, not a Pisces rising.

Speaker A

So then I had to test, like, Whitney Houston, and I'm like, okay, Wendy's not a Capricorn rising.

Speaker A

She's a sad riser.

Speaker A

And so then I start putting out the rises from my study.

Speaker A

Oh, I. Oh, my goodness.

Speaker A

Like Barbra Strauss said, he was saying she was a Aries rising.

Speaker A

I'm like, she's a sad.

Speaker A

And, you know, back and forth, back and forth, because they hate.

Speaker A

Like, if you go to celebrityash.com, like, who are this?

Speaker A

How come no one ever questions these astrologers?

Speaker A

No one ever put their work to the test.

Speaker A

And if you do, you are you.

Speaker A

You'll get a whole bunch of hate mail, okay?

Speaker A

A bunch of haters or death threats, literally, because you're doing stuff like that.

Speaker A

I think it's sad because we're all the same.

Speaker A

If we were all race car drivers, I will tell you, okay?

Speaker A

You're a race car driver.

Speaker A

I got this new super super over there.

Speaker A

I want you to test it because I want you to.

Speaker A

I want you to let everybody know this is the fastest thing around.

Speaker A

Don't take my word for it, right?

Speaker A

We are the same.

Speaker A

So it is.

Speaker A

It is normal for contemporaries to test one another in the fields that they operate in.

Speaker A

It is not just a.

Speaker A

It's not just an ego thing.

Speaker A

And so a lot of them take it very personally.

Speaker A

And the racism comes out immediately because I'm a black man and I am intelligent, and I do know what the fuck I'm talking about with astrology.

Speaker A

It's an exception to me and I test it.

Speaker A

And I do a part of astrology.

Speaker A

A lot of them don't do.

Speaker A

I tested.

Speaker A

That's the only difference for me.

Speaker A

And 90 of the astrologers that I meet, they don't testing.

Speaker A

They read a book they equate to their chart and a few charts of people they know.

Speaker A

But they never test it.

Speaker A

They never test to see when Mercury hits their ascendant.

Speaker A

And it rules my third house.

Speaker A

And it hits that first house cusp.

Speaker A

By transit, all third house matters.

Speaker A

Coming to the four.

Speaker A

Yeah, true.

Speaker A

If Mercury hits the seventh house in the transit or in the progress, and it rules by third house, a third house matters manifesting in my relationships.

Speaker A

You saying they're not doing this at all?