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Speaker AThe next one here is what to do with worn out bamboo flooring or click and place hardwoods.
Speaker AHere's the problem with those pre finished hardwood floors that are veneer that look like a plywood one.
Speaker AThey have that aluminum oxide coating which most floor refinishing companies won't touch because the stuff is so toxic to work with and you really have to sand it down.
Speaker AThe next problem is that veneer on many of those are not as thick as the your thumbnail.
Speaker BSo grab your toolbox, put on your thinking cap and let's get to work right here on around the House with.
Speaker AEric G.
Speaker AWelcome to the Round the House show, the next generation of home improvement.
Speaker AI'm Eric Cheath.
Speaker AThanks for joining me today.
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Speaker ANow today I thought let's dive into some projects here fixing those design mistakes that maybe somebody else did around your house or maybe it's a thing that was too trendy for you and you it and you go wow, that did not turn out correctly.
Speaker AThis is a show that's for you.
Speaker AAnd there's some easy ways to fix it.
Speaker AYou're like, okay, this is good.
Speaker AThis is what I think it's going to be.
Speaker AAnd then it doesn't always turn out.
Speaker AAnd that's just the one thing with especially with DIY projects or when you're hiring somebody and they're not great at communicating with you what you want.
Speaker AThese are things that happen and there's sometimes easy or even tougher ways to fix it depending on what you're trying to do.
Speaker ASo I thought let's talk about some of the most common ones that I see out there and see if I can help you along the way.
Speaker AAnd this was all driven by a phone call.
Speaker AI got this last week which was really interesting.
Speaker AKathleen from New York called.
Speaker AWe'll be talking to her in a minute here.
Speaker AHad a great conversation with her.
Speaker AAnd if you want to Have a conversation with me about your project.
Speaker A833-239-4144.
Speaker AThat number again in the studio here is 833-23941.
Speaker AIf you want to find out more about us, head over to aroundthehouse Online do and then make sure you follow us on social media.
Speaker AAnd we do have our own closed group over on Facebook which is around the House Nation.
Speaker ASo if you're a real person, go ahead and jump over there and be a part of the group.
Speaker AWe're gonna be doing a lot more with that here this summer.
Speaker AIt's been a little sleepy over the last few months and I'm gonna dedicate myself to making sure that we put a lot more content up over there and have something really fun where we can share projects, funny stuff.
Speaker AAnd it's, it's a place that I've meant to be just a safe place for everybody to share their projects and good advice.
Speaker AThere's people over there that renowned architects to designers to contractors you've seen on your favorite HG or DIY network or Magnolia TV show.
Speaker AYou'd be surprised who comes on there in comments.
Speaker AIt's a really fun group and it's very respectful and we really try to keep it so nobody gets bashed over there.
Speaker AWhich is one of the problems that I see with many of the social media groups as we try to really police that one really well.
Speaker ASo somebody gets out of line, they're booted out and we only allow real people on there.
Speaker ASo there's no bots or anything like that.
Speaker AIf you don't check out, you don't come on.
Speaker AIt's that simple.
Speaker AToday I wanted to talk about these projects because it's one of the most common questions that I get from people is okay, how do I fix this?
Speaker AAnd I had a great question that came in from Kathleen from New York about this and she had a granite countertop question about really overhangs being too big.
Speaker AAnd this is something that happens when a granite fabricator or that installer doesn't tell you or doesn't make up, mock up and show you what the overhangs are going to be.
Speaker AAnd sometimes, especially if they're using stock size slabs, maybe it doesn't fit right.
Speaker ALet's go out to that call from Kathleen.
Speaker AWelcome to around the House, Kathleen.
Speaker CYeah, I, I put new granite down when I renovated this place so about three, three years ago.
Speaker CAnd I don't think the granite guys are that great in cutting and sizing the granite.
Speaker CI have this big place where you Sit, you can eat and have your chairs.
Speaker CAnd the top of the granite, I would say, comes out about 2 inches, maybe more off the.
Speaker CWhere it should be touching.
Speaker CI would think the cabinet that it's sitting on, but it's two inches out from the cabinet.
Speaker CThree, I would say three inches out from the cabinet.
Speaker CAnd it's a place where you turn to go into another room.
Speaker CAnd the other piece of granite, it's in the kitchen area, comes out too, about 2 inches too far.
Speaker CSo it's really cutting off the walking space and turning space.
Speaker CIt's just like me eating at me since I had it done.
Speaker CBut you don't realize these things till you're living in a place for a while that granted isn't.
Speaker CI just was wondering if there's any way I could get somebody into size it differently.
Speaker CBut, you know, it's just a silly question, I guess.
Speaker ANo, it's not a silly question.
Speaker AIt's a good one.
Speaker AAnd here's what I would say is traditionally, like a kitchen cabinet was 24 inches deep, plus the door.
Speaker ASo you're 25.
Speaker AAnd so the countertop should go about a half inch beyond the face of that door.
Speaker AAnd when you go beyond that, you run into problems.
Speaker AAnd so you've got a problem there.
Speaker AAnd that's okay.
Speaker AWhat I would do.
Speaker AAnd this is the hard part, because the best way to cut that is for them to uninstall it and take it back and do that.
Speaker AYou might be able to find a tile person or a.
Speaker ASomebody in a granite shop that could come out.
Speaker ASomebody that does repairs or something like that could cut it down.
Speaker ABut the, the problem is that traditionally when they cut that stuff, they use water.
Speaker AAnd so it's, it's very messy because if you dry cut it, then you have problems with silica dust and everything else, which is not good for your health.
Speaker ASo I would see if there's someone in your area that does like granite restoration or granite repairs, where they come in and do epoxy work.
Speaker AThey might be able to do something for you.
Speaker ABut it's going to be a pretty big project just because they have to.
Speaker AThey'll have to create, put plastic down, they'll have to wet cut that and control the water.
Speaker AAnd then they'll have to go back and polish it.
Speaker ASo there's.
Speaker AIt's.
Speaker AIt would be a significant project.
Speaker AAnd most granite companies won't come in and uninstall because many times when they use the silicone and glue that down, it doesn't come up without Breaking.
Speaker AAnd so you basically have to.
Speaker AYeah, you have to find somebody to cut it in place, which is going to be a little tough.
Speaker CSomething that's all going to go off my list, and I'm just going to deal with it.
Speaker AYeah, it's a tough one.
Speaker AIt's a tough one because even the.
Speaker AOn the.
Speaker A10 years ago, you would see the professionals come in there and someone might do it, but because of all the new silica dust regulations, it's made it really hard for them to do that without water.
Speaker AAnd then somebody doesn't want the liability of having, you know, five gallons of water in the house, and that could cause water damage, which they don't want to hurt your cabinets.
Speaker CYeah, I know.
Speaker CI understand.
Speaker CIt could be a difficult situation.
Speaker CAnd the piece is pretty large, and so is the other side large.
Speaker CSo they're long pieces.
Speaker CThanks.
Speaker CI just was wondering, because there's so much innovation today in technology that things are changing every day that repair things, but granite is granite, and I know you have to use water because I watch the guys work and stuff, so.
Speaker CI understand.
Speaker AYeah, that's.
Speaker AThe technology's out there to cut it, but it still makes the same old mess that it has for a thousand years, if you know what I mean.
Speaker CYou're right about that.
Speaker CLike that linoleum.
Speaker CI heard the show talking about putting the linoleum down, and it's the same linoleum that they were making 30, 50 years ago.
Speaker AYeah, yeah, absolutely.
Speaker ASame old stuff.
Speaker CSo that's good in one respect.
Speaker CAll right, so listen, I appreciate.
Speaker CI love your show.
Speaker CIt's really very informative, and it's.
Speaker CIt's interesting.
Speaker CI enjoy it very much.
Speaker AThank you.
Speaker CAnd thank.
Speaker AThank you.
Speaker AWe'll talk about more of this in the future for you.
Speaker COh, okay.
Speaker CThanks a lot.
Speaker CNow you take care, huh?
Speaker ASo that's one of the big questions there.
Speaker ACan you change granite countertops after they've been installed?
Speaker AAnd it's to expand on that a little bit.
Speaker AThere's just really a tough time even removing granite countertops.
Speaker AI've only had, over the years, probably a 50% rate of even getting them taken back off the cabinets without breaking them about half the time.
Speaker AThe next question here I want to do before we go out to break, and I'll tease you with this one right here.
Speaker ACan you change out those glass door cabinets back into regular storage?
Speaker AMaybe you've got those million doors up there, and they're painted, and you're like, I don't want to have my Cheerios on display because I need to have some storage in there.
Speaker AI don't want that to be display space.
Speaker ACan I do that when we come back?
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Speaker AWhy, in a world of ugly faces, should I be allowed to be so hot?
Speaker ASo many people will welcome back to the around the House show, the next generation of home improvement.
Speaker AI'm Eric G.
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Speaker ANow if you want to find out more about us, head over to our new website, aroundthehouse online.com where we've got videos, all the different stuff here for the show.
Speaker AWe've got hundreds of videos on our regular YouTube channel as well as the one for around the House Northwest.
Speaker AWe got about 650 TV show segments right there.
Speaker AThat's a lot.
Speaker ASo the question I had here that somebody had offered me was, can you change out those glass door cabinets back into regular storage?
Speaker AAnd the first thing is trying to come up with how they installed that glass in there.
Speaker ANow, if it's just routed out in the back of the cabinet, one way to do this that can be sneaky is if it's a paint color.
Speaker AYou can take that door right down to your local home improvement store, your paint store.
Speaker AEven better, get that color matched into a color.
Speaker AIf it's a painted cabinet, maybe it's white, maybe it's green, whatever.
Speaker AOr if it's stained, it could be a little bit harder.
Speaker AYou might want to reach out to the cabinet manufacturer if you know who it is.
Speaker ASometimes you can open up a drawer and say, well, that's craft made, it's wellborn, it's crystal.
Speaker AName the name, the brand, right?
Speaker AIt could be one of those.
Speaker AAnd then with them you might be able to find the right stuff where you can actually go in there and get the right name, color, number, all that stuff, you might be able to still get parts for it.
Speaker ANow, the wood might not match as well, but they could still have it, especially if it's a newer kitchen.
Speaker ABut what you can do though is you can head down and see if you can get a stain matched up for that.
Speaker AAnd if it's stained, maybe it's just a light color stain.
Speaker AYou go down there and try to have somebody at your local paint store match up a stain to come up with something for you.
Speaker AAnd if they do that correctly, then you can get that touched up.
Speaker AAnd all you have to do is take out that 8th inch piece of glass, put in a piece of maple, oak, whatever that wood is, cherry, and then you're going to stain it to match, and it'll just replace that glass panel.
Speaker ANow, if you've got mullions in there, it might not look so bad, and it could be a way to do that without doing it.
Speaker ANow, another way to do that would be to go in there and put in maybe a smoked glass or something like that goes with everything.
Speaker AOr a frosted glass.
Speaker AYou can't see what's inside.
Speaker ANow, you'll still see colors maybe through there, but maybe a frosted glass could do it as well.
Speaker AIf you don't want to try to match that paint or stain.
Speaker AAnd that's another great way to do it.
Speaker ASo if you go in there, there's some options in there.
Speaker AChanging out the glass is easy.
Speaker APutting in another panel, it's made of wood to match, that could be good.
Speaker AOr if you wanted to come in with a piece of stainless or something, if you've got stainless appliances, maybe you can make something that's going to look good and match that way.
Speaker ASo play around with your options.
Speaker AWhat might be good for your kitchen, especially if it's an older one, it can be tough to come up with those stain colors and get something that matches.
Speaker AAnd for instance, if you've got hard rock maple, it's going to have yellowed.
Speaker ASo if you get the exact same color, it's going to be too light.
Speaker ACherry will have darkened, woods will have changed.
Speaker ASo just be careful with that.
Speaker ABut maybe come in with a contrasting color.
Speaker AThat's another way to do it as well, to do something that will sneak up and make it make sense.
Speaker AYou want this to make sense and not highlight what used to be glass.
Speaker AAnd then you can make that back into regular storage space and not have to put all the crystal, the china, anything else in that and you can reclaim that for More groceries.
Speaker ASo that's another way to do it.
Speaker ANow, next up here, number three on my list here, is how to change bad wallpaper or wall art that is outdated.
Speaker ANow, this can be a challenge we've seen over the last, oh, probably eight years or so.
Speaker AWe've seen people put up and take one by twos or one by ones and they'll staple on a wall, they'll put some pattern on there and then they'll paint it.
Speaker AThe problem you run into then is when you go to pull off those moldings because you're like, I'm tired of this fish scale design on my living room wall.
Speaker AYou're gonna pull that down.
Speaker ANow you've got all those paint ridges which show through the next layer of paint.
Speaker ASo there's a couple ways to do that as well as if you've got like old 20 year old wallpaper that's not a peel and stick, or some of these new wallpapers that will release.
Speaker AI'll be honest, if you're going to do this as a DIY project, instead of spending all that time, it might be easier to just put up another coat of drywall over the top of that and call it a day.
Speaker AIt might be easier, it might be faster.
Speaker AMost contractors I know of, they do not strip wallpaper off of drywall.
Speaker AThey will go through, tear it out or go over the top of it because it's more cost effective for them to do that than to sit there and spend hours and hours trying to make that work.
Speaker ABecause you could spend 20 hours trying to get that wallpaper off and you might have half of that putting in new drywall and texture if you've got other stuff going in there.
Speaker ASo that might be the best way to do it.
Speaker ANow that's the challenge though, if you've got, you've taken off those boards and you've got that fish scale design that's now going to show up through the paint.
Speaker ASo ways to do that would be to go through and basically retexture that wall.
Speaker ASo skim coat and retexture is probably going to be the most cost effective way to do that.
Speaker ABecause if you've got that paint, you're just going to have those lines showing up in there.
Speaker ASo you could go in there and sand it a little bit, but you're going to mess the texture up.
Speaker AIf it's a flat wall, that's easy.
Speaker AYou can just skim coat it and sand it down, get it smooth again and be good to go.
Speaker AIf you've got like A level four finish or level five finish, that's not as big a deal.
Speaker ABut it's when you have that orange peel or knockdown or something like that is where it really starts to mess with that.
Speaker AAnd the same thing goes, if you're gonna be putting wallpaper up on that again, and maybe it's a textured wall, and you're like, hey, wallpaper's back.
Speaker AI want to use it.
Speaker AThat's when you want to go through and skim coat that wall.
Speaker AYou can put some of these thicker wallpapers up behind it as a backer to cover up that texture, and then put another wallpaper over the top of that so that kind of hides that wall texture behind it.
Speaker ABut to me, it's almost easier just to go ahead and skim coat that, sand it down, prime it, put a coat of paint on it so it's sealed up, and then go ahead and hit it with your wallpaper.
Speaker AThat'll make a really nice job that way, and you'll have a very smooth wall.
Speaker AAnd if it's one of the ones that comes off, it'll come off a little bit easier with that paint on there.
Speaker AAnd it's good just to go ahead and seal that up.
Speaker ASo that's a great way to deal with that.
Speaker ASo that can be a lot of work undoing those things.
Speaker AWe had one when I was a little kid.
Speaker AI'll tell you this quick story before we go out to break.
Speaker AWe moved into a house.
Speaker AIt was in the early 70s.
Speaker AIt was probably 77, I think, when I moved in there.
Speaker ASo it was late 70s, in the mid-70s, probably 76, during the bicentennial, somebody on what would been my bedroom wall put a full on off scale.
Speaker AThey did it weird USA flag with stars and everything.
Speaker AAnd they painted all on there with multiple coats.
Speaker AAnd I remember with my parents, they came up with a good way, since I liked posters and stuff.
Speaker AWe put poster board on that entire wall so I could hang all my rock and roll posters from the 70s up there in 80s.
Speaker AAnd it worked out really well.
Speaker ABut again, that was one of those just.
Speaker AIt seemed like a good idea when you saw it, but when you realize that the scale of the flag was completely off the corner with the stars was half of the flag.
Speaker ASo it just didn't look good.
Speaker ASo it was cool for a year, and then we fixed it.
Speaker ABut that's one of the things.
Speaker ACovering it up is usually usually the best way to go.
Speaker AAll right.
Speaker AHey, if you want to find out more about us, head over to aroundthehouse online.com and we're going to be talking here about all the fixing, design mistakes in your home.
Speaker AAll those things that can happen.
Speaker AMaybe it's that project that somebody else tackled before you got there or it's something that seemed like a good idea at the time and it'll look beautiful for a couple years.
Speaker AAnd you're like, wow, I am tired of that trend.
Speaker AAnd that happens with our homes that we do updates on updates.
Speaker AIt's like that 70s wall paneling that went away, that's now back in a newer type of form.
Speaker ABut these are things that really show up in our homes and lead to something that looks beautiful at the time but can be super dated later.
Speaker AIf you're going to hang up some paneling or new something, do something up there.
Speaker AMaybe it's smart not to put construction adhesive up on that wall.
Speaker AMaybe it's safe to nail it.
Speaker AMaybe it's a few more nails are easier to patch.
Speaker AAnd when you try to take construction adhesive off of paneling, we're putting up these acoustic walls right now that look beautiful.
Speaker AAll right, guys, around the house.
Speaker ABe right back after these important messages.
Speaker AWe're get back to talking about fixing design mistakes or design changes in your home.
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Speaker AWelcome back to the around the house show, the next generation of home improvement.
Speaker AI'm Eric G.
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Speaker AIf you're looking for that brand new barbecue, you found the right place@monumentgrills.com if you missed the show so far and you're just joining us, we've been talking about fixing design mistakes in your home.
Speaker AWhether or not it's yours or it's something you inherited or it's just something you go, wow, I miscalculated that.
Speaker AI have that in my home and I've had to do changes just because I went, that is not turning out how I want it to.
Speaker AI did a segment here just for the around the house Northwest TV show where we were installing wallpaper and this wallpaper was so low quality I tore it down and took it back.
Speaker AYep, started putting it up there and I'm like, this stuff was no different than peel and stick stuff you'd put in the bottom.
Speaker AIt was contact paper really, even though it didn't say that on the package.
Speaker AAnd there's no way to make that look good and just touching it and moving it, it stretched, which means you couldn't get anything to line up and it was just a hot mess.
Speaker AHey, if you want to be a part of the show, if you have or just send a Message@AroundtheHouse Online.com the next one here I wanted to talk about, and this is a tough one.
Speaker ASo if you have engineered hardwood floors that are pre finished or bamboo for instance, that are, there's a lot of different hardwoods that you see out there for floors, but there's kind of two main styles.
Speaker AYou have your solid plank, which is maybe three quarters of an inch most likely, and then you have the engineered stuff which is a plywood composite panel with a wood veneer on top.
Speaker ANow the next one here is what to do with worn out bamboo flooring.
Speaker AOr click and place hardwoods.
Speaker AHere's the problem with those pre finished hardwood floors that are a veneer that look like a plywood one, they have that aluminum oxide coating which most floor refinishing companies won't touch because the stuff is so toxic to work with and you really have to sand it down.
Speaker AThe next problem is that veneer on many of those are not as thick as the your thumbnail.
Speaker ASo it is so minor as far as you could over sand that and ruin the entire floor.
Speaker ASo really that stuff to me is, you know, maybe you can scuff it and put another clear coat over the top of it if you're lucky.
Speaker ABut really that floor is not meant to be refinished.
Speaker AAnd I've had some pretty bad luck with people trying to do that with stranded bamboo floors as well.
Speaker ABecause bamboo is really what it is.
Speaker AIt's grass and it does not finish the same as a regular hardwood floor.
Speaker AAnd I tell you what, I put bamboo in.
Speaker ASheesh, man.
Speaker AIt was probably 20 years ago when it first came out.
Speaker AI wanted to try it out, I wanted to see how it worked.
Speaker AAnd I put it in my living room and in my dining room and I didn't have it in there probably four months before I ripped it out.
Speaker AIt just didn't hold up from.
Speaker AI had little kids at the time and just them scooting in and out the dining room chairs with pads on.
Speaker AIt was denting it and it was crushing it and it just didn't work.
Speaker AAnd so in these instances like this, I'm going to be honest, I would just tear it out and put in a new floor.
Speaker AAnd I know that's expensive, but I think for the health hazards that are in the aluminum Oxide.
Speaker AIf you try to sand that down and get that dust all over the house, that's not great.
Speaker ATwo trying to do that and not cut through that veneer, which is sheets of paper thick, that doesn't work.
Speaker AI think you're just going to be not worth trying to mess with it.
Speaker AYou might be better off just putting down new flooring, pulling the old stuff up, pull the baseboard moldings, unclick together that stuff.
Speaker ANow if it's glued down over concrete or something like that, it's a much bigger project.
Speaker ABut maybe you can go over the top of that if it's a glue down.
Speaker ABut really follow the instructions of your new manufacturing and put that down.
Speaker AIf you've got high wear areas, maybe that click together is not your best friend.
Speaker AMaybe putting in something like a real hardwood or something else in there that will be more durable, like a vinyl click or something like that.
Speaker AOne of the vinyl planks might be a better way to go.
Speaker ABut that's the tough part with these pre engineered floors, depending on the quality of it, a lot of the lower quality stuff just isn't worth trying to refinish.
Speaker AIf you've got a good wear layer on the top, maybe you can do some repairs to it.
Speaker ABut really I think it's just going to be one of those things.
Speaker AYou're probably better off replacing the entire floor.
Speaker AAnd I know that's expensive and I know that's not easy to work with, but unfortunately that's probably your best bet.
Speaker ASo something to think about with that bamboo flooring or the click and place engineered hardwoods.
Speaker ANow the next one here is just as bad and this one can be really tough and it's depending on what you're going to try to do to save this.
Speaker AAnd there isn't an easy answer.
Speaker ALet's talk about it.
Speaker AHow to fix painted brick.
Speaker AMaybe you had this beautiful mid century fireplace and some house flipper came through and sprayed latex paint all over the top of it and now you got a hot mess because you wish you had that brick back again.
Speaker AAnd it is one of those things that I never tell people to paint brick unless that's your last resort.
Speaker AReally say, hey, enjoy it, embrace it, work with it in your space.
Speaker AMaybe you could put another bricklayer over the top of it and do something with it.
Speaker ABut really that brick, if it's mid century, if you can save it, that's awesome.
Speaker ASo here's the problem we have with newer paints, at least that are latex, it is a little bit easier to get it off there because you can take some of the strippers and paint removers and get some of that off there, but you also run a risk of damaging the brick.
Speaker AAnd so really just about anything you do can damage that brick.
Speaker ASo the first thing I would do is get up there maybe with some orange stripper and try that in a non conspicuous place, not on the front, maybe on the corner, on the side and try to see if you can get some off there.
Speaker AI've heard some people come in there and sandblast it with soda blasting and they'll have a soda blaster come in.
Speaker AAnd the problem with that is if you've got a more traditional brick that doesn't have a broken face to it, that can take that shine off of it and make it look pretty rough, but if you've got one of those maybe more dry stack stone ones, it could work.
Speaker AI've seen people go in there with wire scrub brushes by hand.
Speaker AI've seen people go in there with scrub brushes on a drill that are nylon and using some paint remover and that kind of stuff.
Speaker ASome of the less caustic ones, not the aircraft stuff, but maybe some of the orange stuff and getting in there and doing that, it is a really tough one.
Speaker AAnd I'm going to say you're going to probably have to try five or six different ways to to do it.
Speaker AI've seen people come in with heat guns and be okay with it.
Speaker ABut the problem is it's depending how good of prep work they did, if they came in there with a really good primer and did this job right, it's going to be a lot harder to get that out because it could have soaked into that brick, which means it's not going to just come off the top.
Speaker ASo we've been fighting this at the beach house Right now we've got a brick fireplace that we've tried a lot of different things at it and since it was done 20 plus years ago, it is not coming off of there.
Speaker AAnd I think what we're going to do, it's going to be easier at this point because it's just a small fireplace.
Speaker ATo remove that mid century brick and we have new and probably just put it back up there and restore it with a new layer of exactly the same matching brick.
Speaker AWhat's cool is my brother found this on Facebook Marketplace.
Speaker AIt was somebody's demo.
Speaker AThey were removing a fireplace that was mid century and it's the same color of brick that's underneath it.
Speaker ASo we could put that back in there and make it look like it was the original and no one will know any better.
Speaker AAnd so that's another way to do it.
Speaker ABut just be careful.
Speaker APaint and brick out there, guys, especially on these architectural style homes.
Speaker AIf you bought this house because it was mid century or is Victorian or whatever, sometimes that painted brick can cause a lot of damage and it's hard to replace.
Speaker AAnd sometimes they just don't make it anymore.
Speaker AAnd so then you have to go through and try to figure out how you want to save it.
Speaker AAnd on the exterior as well.
Speaker APainted brick is not always the best situation.
Speaker AYou can trap moisture in and it can cause all sorts of other problems, especially with winter, with freeze thaws and things like that.
Speaker ASo that can cause a lot of damage by just painting brick.
Speaker ASo my rule generally speaking is please stay away from the painted brick if you can.
Speaker AIf you're trying to save something, make it look better because somebody else has done a bunch of damage to it, that's one thing.
Speaker ABut if it's beautiful brick, my best advice is embrace it.
Speaker AAnd that way you don't have to go stripping that down later or trying to do it.
Speaker AThat can be a massive job.
Speaker AAll right, next up here is another one here that's important.
Speaker AHow do you fix a bad tile layout in a shower or one that's just leaking in the bottom of the shower?
Speaker ANow this all of a sudden when she start talking about leaking.
Speaker ANow we're outside of design mistakes.
Speaker AAnd maybe it was a design mistake.
Speaker AMaybe you put the wrong tile down.
Speaker AMaybe you put the wrong system underneath it.
Speaker AMaybe you just put it over concrete.
Speaker AYou just thought, I'd put a little red guard down and lay tile.
Speaker AAnd it of course is leaking like it would.
Speaker AMaybe you just didn't design the right system out underneath it because it was your first tile job.
Speaker AThat happens.
Speaker AI was just commenting on a online thing the other day here, and this was pretty crazy where somebody had paid a contractor to come in and again, it looked like another tile job.
Speaker AThat was their first.
Speaker AAnd of course they've got water leaking.
Speaker AIt's less than two years.
Speaker AThey've been battling with the contractor for a year and a half trying to get this resolved.
Speaker AWhen we come back, I'm going to talk about how you fix that and what are your options just as soon as around the House returns.
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Speaker AWelcome back to the Round the house show the next generation of home improvement.
Speaker AThanks for joining me.
Speaker AToday we've been talking about fixing design mistakes in your home.
Speaker ANow, again, this could be not your mistake, could be somebody else's, or it could be.
Speaker AYou're right.
Speaker AWow.
Speaker AThis did not turn out the way I thought it would.
Speaker AAnd now we're going to talk about how do we get back on track with that project.
Speaker ANow, this could have been something that happened years ago, and you're like, finally, we're going to go fix this, or it's something that you just got done.
Speaker AI went, oh, how do we undo this?
Speaker AAnd that's what we're talking about in this hour of the show today.
Speaker ASo we were going out to break, and I was talking about a bad tile layout in the shower or shower leaks.
Speaker AAnd unfortunately, a bad tile layout.
Speaker AAnd it's already done.
Speaker AIt's already in.
Speaker AAnd you're like, wow, this looks horrible.
Speaker ATo be honest, your only great answer here is going to be to tear it out and do it over again.
Speaker AAnd this is one that there's really no great way to go into a shower and take that tile out and turn around and try to save it.
Speaker AIt is just absolutely brutal taking tile that was laid correctly out, because now you've ruined that system down beneath it, which is really bad.
Speaker AYou've got that system behind it, and it's waterproofed because tile and grout are not waterproof generally.
Speaker ASo you have to have something behind that for it to stop that water from going down through the bottom, through the walls, whatever.
Speaker AAnd when you pop that tile off, generally speaking, if you did it correctly, you're going to take the waterproof again with it, or you're going to have that mortar in there that you can't remove very easily without ruining that back.
Speaker AAnd at that point, you're better off just taking it back to the studs in starting over, which unfortunately, and I hate to be the bearer of bad news, this can be one of those things that can cost you 5,000, 10,000 bucks if you're having somebody do it themselves.
Speaker AAnd that's where the issues run into it with this.
Speaker ASo leaky shower, there's really no way.
Speaker AI've seen people do okay jobs on patching a leaky shower, but there's never a guarantee.
Speaker AIf you've got a shower pan that's leaking and it's tile, really, there's no way to get in there without just tearing that whole thing out.
Speaker AI've seen people come in and seal the grout and try to do something with it.
Speaker ABut usually by that time, the water is underneath the tile and it's popping tile up or it's busting apart and there's no saving at that point.
Speaker AYou really just need to do it over.
Speaker ANow, like I said, I've seen some Hail Mary shots where it actually works, but generally speaking, you're always chasing it, because if you do the base now, you're going to have a seam in the corner there where it could leak, and you want to have that waterproofing go up the wall a little bit.
Speaker ASo if you take the wall tiles up now, there's going to be a line in that area there, too.
Speaker ASo my best advice, if you want to do it right, is to go ahead and just tear it out and take care of it once and for all.
Speaker ASo that's the big thing with showers.
Speaker AWhen you're laying it out, make sure if you're sitting there doing this and you're having somebody do it, or if you're doing it yourself before you get any farther after laying that tile, if it's not perfect, take care of it right then it's one thing to maybe break one out before you've grouted it and get in there and fix it while it's still setting up.
Speaker AThat's one thing.
Speaker ABut once that thing is grouted in and once it's set up, you're pretty much stuck with what you got.
Speaker AAnd I don't recommend going in and trying to repair that at any point.
Speaker AYou just really need to go in and start over, unfortunately.
Speaker ASorry to be the bearer of bad news.
Speaker AThat's just what it is with that.
Speaker AThat's a one you can't really save too easily.
Speaker AAll right, now, how to fix an ugly fireplace.
Speaker AThis can be a fun one because you don't have to actually go through and do a lot of work sometimes.
Speaker ALike I said earlier in the earlier segment, I don't like to go in and paint brick, but you can go through and clean it up.
Speaker AI've seen people go through and stain the mortar to be from basically say it's a concrete color.
Speaker ALet's say it's just a regular mortar, stain it black.
Speaker AI've seen people do that.
Speaker AReally, one of the best ones is adding a mantle or building a mantle and doing that, cleaning it up, maybe putting a new insert in it that it's upgraded.
Speaker AIf it's a gas fireplace, putting a new insert in.
Speaker AIf it's got a log set, there are some great log sets out there.
Speaker AAnd this is really where you can make a huge difference for not a big spend.
Speaker AIf you've got that old 1970s or 80s or 90s fireplace where it's.
Speaker AYou got the wood fireplace that was converted into gas, all you have to do is get in there, remove that log set and put a new one in.
Speaker AMy favorite are from Grand Canyon Logs.
Speaker AThey have this new series that is super real.
Speaker AThis is awesome.
Speaker AI did a whole segment on it for my show on around the House Northwest.
Speaker AYou can go over and take a look on our YouTube page for that.
Speaker AIt's on the KPTV Fox 12 YouTube page.
Speaker ASo that's KPTV Fox 12.
Speaker AGo to the around the House playlist on there.
Speaker ATake a look at the fire logs.
Speaker AIt is absolutely amazing.
Speaker AIt's super cool and it looks very real because they actually made the flames come out through the logs, through little channels in the logs.
Speaker ASo when you're using it, it looks like a real wood fireplace.
Speaker AIt's the most realistic gas fireplace I've ever seen.
Speaker ASo it's a great way to do it.
Speaker ASo something to consider when you're upgrading that, maybe that mantle, maybe some lighting around the fireplace, a good cleaning of it.
Speaker AAnd if it's a gas one, put a new gas log set in there.
Speaker AAnd maybe some doors or something, if you want to have some doors, a couple different ways to go with that.
Speaker ABut that's really the little upgrades you can do to update that.
Speaker ANow, of course, if you've got hideous brick up there that's been abused, I've seen people go in there and smooth it out and put tile, like large format tile on there.
Speaker AI've seen some really cool updates trying to fix a really boring and ugly fireplace.
Speaker AAnd yes, there are boring and ugly fireplaces out there where it's just red brick and it's just nothing spectacular to write home about.
Speaker AAnd the rest of the house looks great.
Speaker AYou can go in there and skim coat that.
Speaker AI've seen people put tile up and it looks really good.
Speaker ASo there's ways to do that.
Speaker AEspecially the large format porcelain tiles.
Speaker AThey can look really like a million bucks all of a sudden.
Speaker AYou can change it from that red brick that maybe was painted and you could turn around and take a look and all of a sudden looks like steel panels up there.
Speaker AAnd it's something that's fireproof as well, so you don't have to worry about that.
Speaker AOne of the biggest things to make sure of when you're doing this is make sure to check your local Codes.
Speaker AGenerally speaking, you don't want to have anything within 12 inches of the firebox.
Speaker AIt's combustible.
Speaker AI've seen people go in there and try to put wood around it, put paneling over it or something like that to make it look rustic.
Speaker ABut guess what?
Speaker AYou can't have something that close to the fireplace that will cause a fire.
Speaker AAll right, now let's get to the last one on the list right here.
Speaker AAnd this is a tough one, guys.
Speaker AThis is.
Speaker AHow do you deal with outdated vinyl siding?
Speaker ANow, this can be a controversial subject.
Speaker AI have seen people go through.
Speaker AMaybe you've got that what was once white vinyl siding that is now yellowed, it's brittle, or it was baby blue and you want to have a dark gray house, something like that.
Speaker AThis can be tough.
Speaker AThis can be really tough.
Speaker AI am not a fan of painting vinyl siding because it can go bad very quickly.
Speaker AAnd yes, there are companies like Sherwin Williams that make a specific paint for it.
Speaker ABut here's the challenges that I see when trying to paint vinyl siding.
Speaker AFirst off, it is formulated for the color it's in.
Speaker ASo if you had a dark green vinyl siding, many times that vinyl is completely different plastic mix than if it was white.
Speaker AAnd so the melting temperatures can be completely different.
Speaker AI have seen way too many people take that cream colored vinyl siding or the light blue, and I'm going to make a charcoal gray.
Speaker AAnd then the first hot summer day that they get direct sun on it, it melts and looks like a house fire was right next door and it turned into string cheese.
Speaker ASo you can have some serious problems with the heat coming off a hot summer day.
Speaker AThat can be the first problem.
Speaker ASecond of all, vinyl as we know expands and contracts a lot.
Speaker ASo if you're out there on a cool day and you're doing a drastic color change, that is going to be okay.
Speaker ALet's say it's 70 degrees, you're out painting it.
Speaker AThe problem is when that stuff expands and contracts, the seams where those panels came together are going to move.
Speaker ANow when it shrinks, you're going to be okay to a bit until you get to that point where it actually did.
Speaker ASo you'll see stripes of where it shrank down and got colder from there.
Speaker ASo all of a sudden maybe it's 30 degrees outside instead of 70.
Speaker ANow you see paint stripes around, but it's too cool to paint, so you can see that happen as well.
Speaker AAnd it's just really hard to make that look good, especially inside those J trims and Things like that.
Speaker ASo for me, the first thing I would do is get in there and inconspicuous spot and take a look.
Speaker AIf you have an older home, you could have a gift hiding behind that.
Speaker AI have seen so many times where a vinyl siding salesperson was killer in your neighborhood.
Speaker AThey came down, there's a bunch of houses that needed painted.
Speaker AThey knocked on the doors in the 80s and 90s and said, hey, for this, for as much as a paint job, I can put vinyl siding on this thing and it's going to look like a million bucks.
Speaker AAnd it's a lifetime warranty.
Speaker AThey'll say, well, 15 years later, it's starting to look not so great.
Speaker AThat company's no longer around, or they didn't remember who they got it from at that point, or they sold it and somebody's bought it and there's a beautiful sighting underneath it.
Speaker ASo sometimes by unsnapping that, taking a look underneath, you might have some beautiful siding down there, or you might have plywood.
Speaker AYou won't know until you get into it.
Speaker AAnd that's where you can really make a difference on that.
Speaker AI have 25, 30% of the time seen beautiful siding that just needed some prep work and some paint.
Speaker AAnd they got rid of that vinyl siding.
Speaker AAnd they had cedar shingle, they had shake, they had lap siding.
Speaker AAll the different types of siding you had down there, maybe, except for steel or aluminum, but they had great material underneath it, so don't be shy to take a look.
Speaker ANow, that could have also went on when they did an addition or changed out windows.
Speaker ASo you might most likely will have some siding repairs to do, but it's not going to be a complete siding job.
Speaker ABut you won't know until you start popping it off.
Speaker AAnd at that part, you're committed.
Speaker ASo what I would recommend you do at that point is to go ahead and say, okay, we're going to pop it off this area here.
Speaker ATry it, see what happens.
Speaker ANo matter what, what's coming off, it's probably going to break.
Speaker ASo you're not going to put it back on there.
Speaker ABut you're going to have to at least commit to some kind of sighting at that point, so have that in your budget.
Speaker AThanks for tuning in.
Speaker AI'm Eric G.
Speaker AAnd you've been listening to around the House.