If Meta ads felt harder in 2025, then you're
Speaker:not imagining it. Targeting that used to work no longer
Speaker:works nearly as well. Costs feel higher, results feel slower, and
Speaker:the platform has changed the rules without clearly explaining why.
Speaker:In this episode, I wanted to cut through the noise and examine what's actually changed
Speaker:at Meta, what that means for small product businesses heading into
Speaker:2026 and where your effort is best spent if ads feel
Speaker:expensive or inconsistent. Welcome to
Speaker:the Resilient Retail Game Plan. I'm Catherine Edley and in the next few minutes
Speaker:you're about to get powerful real world retail strategies from
Speaker:insights shared both from my guests and myself, backed up by
Speaker:my 25 years in the retail industry. Keep listening to learn
Speaker:how to grow a thriving, profitable product business. Let's jump
Speaker:in with this latest episode. I'm joined by
Speaker:CJ Sinclair, a Meta Ad strategist and founder of Vibing Social
Speaker:Ads Consultants and Ads Answers for Ecom, a membership for
Speaker:UK product businesses wanting to run paid ads. She works
Speaker:hands on with product brands running Meta ads every day.
Speaker:And what I really value about her perspective is that she looks beyond Ads
Speaker:Manager at the whole ecosystem around your ads, your content
Speaker:and your customer behavior. This is the bit I really want you to
Speaker:hear, because if you're still trying to fix ads purely inside Ads Manager,
Speaker:it can feel like you're constantly missing something. Meta is now
Speaker:looking at signals from everywhere, and while that sounds overwhelming,
Speaker:there's actually a real opportunity here for smaller brands.
Speaker:The biggest, biggest change is that the whole algorithm has shifted and
Speaker:changed, essentially. So pre2025
Speaker:we were really focused on our targeting and we were being
Speaker:super niche with our interests. So if you had a, I don't know,
Speaker:kids food brand, you would be targeting parents of
Speaker:toddlers or women between these ages and being very, very
Speaker:specific. Yeah, this year that does not work. Absolutely does
Speaker:not work. We're looking at really big, broad audiences, so no
Speaker:interests. We're just targeting on age, gender and location.
Speaker:And we're using our creative to do the targeting. So
Speaker:we're really calling out our audience segments within our
Speaker:creative, whether that's in the copy, the visuals, the headline, the
Speaker:whole thing. We're using our ads to call those people out. And
Speaker:Meta now is not only just looking at what's happening inside the
Speaker:platform, inside your ads manager, it's looking at the whole
Speaker:ecosystem around it. How is your organic content performing?
Speaker:How are people engaging with your website and product pages? Are you emailing?
Speaker:Are people engaging with your business in that way? And are you using really
Speaker:diverse creative. Are you speaking to your different audience segments of your
Speaker:brand? So. So it's kind of mushroomed outside of Ads
Speaker:Manager, it's, it's not just the buttons that you press inside of Ads Manager,
Speaker:everything else around it, which I know sounds really overwhelming,
Speaker:but that was my first thought. I was like, wow. I know, I know. It's
Speaker:actually. And this is really going to come into play in
Speaker:2026. What is so exciting is that for the
Speaker:first time ever, I genuinely believe that smaller brands
Speaker:are going to have the upper hand compared to the big guns because they can
Speaker:pivot, they are agile, they can move much quicker to what the
Speaker:platform is requesting. And that is creative diversity. That is
Speaker:updated landing pages. If you've got an ad for a very
Speaker:specific audience avatar. So I don't know a young mum who's
Speaker:interested in running marathon, right, Then you would create a landing
Speaker:page specifically for that audience rather than just going through your
Speaker:general website. Whereas bigger brands can't do that. They can't pivot that quickly.
Speaker:So I think it's going to be a really interesting and exciting year. And in
Speaker:terms of the thing to focus on a smaller brand, it would be
Speaker:that creative, that creative diversity. So coming up with B rolls
Speaker:or talk to cameras or static images or review
Speaker:graphics, but having a really diverse set of creative assets, but
Speaker:also really focusing on your website and your landing pages as well,
Speaker:which we should always be doing anyway.
Speaker:One of the biggest fears I hear is but big brands have
Speaker:bigger budgets. What CJ's really saying here is that speed,
Speaker:clarity and relevance matter more than scale. But of
Speaker:course, ads still cost money. So let's talk about budget.
Speaker:My advice around this is, you know, I want you to be a
Speaker:little bit uncomfortable with your spending because nothing exciting happens within our
Speaker:comfort zones. But if you are struggling to pay your
Speaker:rent or your mortgage or your food shop, then do not spend more
Speaker:on your meta ads. You know you can't do that. But
Speaker:if you want consistent sales, I would recommend 10 to
Speaker:15% of your revenue as an ad budget. If you want
Speaker:to grow and really push it, then we're looking at more of 15
Speaker:to 20% that could be a bit more realistic. But the most
Speaker:important mindset is your budget should match
Speaker:your goals and your margins. So if your margins are
Speaker:super tight, your budget needs to be conservative. If your margins are
Speaker:a bit better, you can afford to scale faster. Every business
Speaker:is different. But the question I would be asking is, okay,
Speaker:how much revenue do I need to generate over the 90 days and how
Speaker:can ads fit into that equation? They're not everything,
Speaker:they're that part of the equation. That's what I would be, I'd be thinking about.
Speaker:It's really good benchmarks. Thank you for that. One of the things that I've heard
Speaker:people say previously about ads, love to hear your thoughts on it, is they say,
Speaker:especially in that first three month phase, only spend on ads what you can
Speaker:afford to lose. Which is I guess what you were saying about like don't put
Speaker:your mortgage on the line. If you. Yeah, I mean how does that does
Speaker:that. Do you think that still rings true? Yeah, I definitely do and I
Speaker:feel I almost put clients off, I would say when they, you know, when they
Speaker:come to work with me on a retainer basis. Because I say, look, you have
Speaker:to go into this thinking potentially for the first three months whilst we're learning
Speaker:and we're testing potentially, you won't make that money back.
Speaker:It's never happened and I've always been really successful straight out the gate,
Speaker:which is amazing, but it doesn't really back my point. But I do think you
Speaker:should go in knowing that there is the possibility that
Speaker:you won't make that money back. But what you are going to make is lots
Speaker:of learnings and if you have the right expert on board, those
Speaker:learnings can then be put in to your future growth and then
Speaker:you'll start making your money back. Once you understand what people are
Speaker:resonating with, what structure works for you, what creative works for you,
Speaker:your messaging angles, all of that sort of stuff, you can't
Speaker:possibly know that straight out the gate.
Speaker:What I like about this approach is that ads aren't being treated as a magic
Speaker:fix. They're part of a bigger picture and your margins matter.
Speaker:Which brings us to creative because this is where I see a lot of product
Speaker:founders getting stuck. Creative is such
Speaker:a big part of Mecca ads at the moment, the one that is crushing it
Speaker:and has this year and absolutely will do going into 2026
Speaker:is that real, unpolished, unfiltered creative.
Speaker:It's the stuff we see at the moment on Instagram and on reels. No
Speaker:people with no makeup on or, you know, the bloopers. And we find it
Speaker:really interesting and engaging and that is what people want from the ad.
Speaker:They don't want the perfect polished product
Speaker:shots and flat lays. They want to see how that product can
Speaker:transform their life in action and they want to imagine themselves in
Speaker:there. So user generated content is really big at the moment. So
Speaker:people using your products, founder Clips. So behind the scenes,
Speaker:I don't know whether you, you might have seen it, but warehouse clips, if you've
Speaker:got a warehouse or a fulfillment center, they're huge at the moment. Yeah.
Speaker:Employee generated content. So you know what people are up to behind the scenes
Speaker:in the office. But also things like iPhone photos, you know, like quick
Speaker:shots on your iPhone or you packing up all orders or a
Speaker:thing that I'm seeing really big at the moment with some of my clients is
Speaker:that they will do an Instagram live packing orders and they will talk
Speaker:through what they're doing. And even that sort of content on ads can
Speaker:work really well. My kind of golden rule of thumb is if it
Speaker:has performed well organically, there is a very high chance that it
Speaker:will perform well as an ad. So you don't need to keep reinventing
Speaker:the wheel. If you've got a reel that has done well organically, you
Speaker:can then turn that into an ad and it will mostly perform really
Speaker:well. That kind of unfiltered, unpolished lo fi. And I think
Speaker:it's really hard for founders, especially founders that are very
Speaker:protective of their brand and want it to look polished and lovely
Speaker:to shift that mindset. But I've seen it so many times
Speaker:when I finally crack these clients and they try
Speaker:the ads and they succeed and they're like, I wish I did this.
Speaker:You know, they don't have to be absolutely disgusting. With none of your branding,
Speaker:it's almost like you're sending a WhatsApp photo to your friend.
Speaker:That is the sort of thing that can work for you. Yeah, that's so interesting.
Speaker:I guess because the platforms are flooded with this kind of content anyway. So it's
Speaker:what blends in and doesn't sort of make people go, oh, that's an
Speaker:ad. It's just like, oh, that looks nice. Yeah, it's like, oh, who's that?
Speaker:Is that my friend? Are they sharing that? And then, then you've got the dwell
Speaker:time and then your messaging angles with the clear
Speaker:product benefits are what supports it. So your visual is going to stop them,
Speaker:then your messaging is supporting them. And if it really grabs them, and hopefully
Speaker:it does, that's when they go over to the website and then it's your website's
Speaker:job to then grab them towards the buy now button. Got
Speaker:you.
Speaker:Talked about diversity of creatives. Well, so sort of trying lots of different
Speaker:things. Yeah. I mean the, the brands I've worked with this year
Speaker:and that have absolutely won are the ones that are iterating
Speaker:every week. They're trying new things every week. And it might
Speaker:not seem like it is totally on brand because they're trying
Speaker:things that they've never tried before. But there is a cohesion to their
Speaker:creative. You know, you can tell that it's there, but the ideas are a
Speaker:bit different. So one of my fashion clients, for example, they've
Speaker:kind of gone down the videos of them wearing the outfit in the
Speaker:mirror. So they're walking to in the mirror. So something again, that you would send
Speaker:to your friend, like, what do you think of this outfit? And it's doing amazingly
Speaker:well. Like, incredibly well. Another one of my jewelry clients has used
Speaker:hooks at the moment, where this is the brand my friend wouldn't shut up about.
Speaker:And everyone's like, oh, what's it? So it's all of this sort of stuff
Speaker:that is really working. And my background is psychology. And this is the sort of
Speaker:stuff that you absolutely like. How do we grab curiosity? How do we
Speaker:pique people's interest? How do we get them over to the website? And we're going
Speaker:to be seeing a lot of this in 2026. That kind of unpolished,
Speaker:unfiltered storytelling content is going to be absolutely huge
Speaker:next year. That's fascinating. I mean, and that leads me on to my next question,
Speaker:which was, which I feel like you may be have even answered, which was how
Speaker:can smaller businesses compete without a huge budget? But it sounds like from what you're
Speaker:saying, that because it's unpolished, you don't need a giant budget.
Speaker:It can be somebody in the mirror. Yeah, yeah. Something simple.
Speaker:So simple, so simple. Like smaller brands. And this is why I'm so excited for
Speaker:2026, because smaller brands can pivot and move so much quicker.
Speaker:What all of this really comes back to is believability. And once you
Speaker:start thinking about trust, it naturally leads into how we measure success,
Speaker:especially when it comes to roas. So
Speaker:independently, roas doesn't really mean anything together. When you're
Speaker:looking at your cost per result, how much is it costing you to get a
Speaker:sale and your roas, those two things make a lot
Speaker:of sense when they're together. The one thing I would say to brands, and I
Speaker:see this a lot, that if you are running ads by yourself and you're kind
Speaker:of dabbling and working out yourself, is to
Speaker:calculate what we call a break even roas. So
Speaker:what is the ROAS I need to hit to break even?
Speaker:So anything over that is okay. I'm profitable. Anything under
Speaker:that is okay, I need to do some tweaks when you know that number,
Speaker:understand the data and letting the data guide you makes a lot more
Speaker:sense than just going in there going, oh, well, I want to Ross a 10,
Speaker:which literally means nothing because it depends on your margin. So. Yeah, yeah, totally.
Speaker:And also one of the things that bothers me about Roas is of course it's
Speaker:like, so let's say you spend £10 and you get £50 of sales back. Okay,
Speaker:that's great. But it's not your profit on ad spend, it's your return,
Speaker:it's your sales. Whereas actually, you know, you could be, yeah, you get twice
Speaker:as much back as you spent, but if your margins under
Speaker:50%, you've actually lost some money. So, yeah, and it, I mean, you know, for
Speaker:me, managers and run clients and the roas in their Ads Manager
Speaker:doesn't factor in my fee, for example. So, you know, there are
Speaker:so many other costs outside of the platform. Also, the other thing to
Speaker:mention is that in Ads Manager we're not seeing all of the data.
Speaker:So especially for products that are of higher value, where the
Speaker:consideration period from the customer is longer, we don't see
Speaker:data outside of seven days in Ads Manager just from looking at the dashboard.
Speaker:So if your buyers are taking 14 days or 28
Speaker:days to buy and the ad has helped do that, we don't see
Speaker:that data. So again, it's skewed. And the data
Speaker:is also delayed in Ad Manager, so we have no idea what's going on some
Speaker:days because the data is so delayed. I would take ROAS with
Speaker:a pinch of salt on its own, but just factor it into everything else
Speaker:and also your overall sales and revenue, not just ad sponger.
Speaker:So there you have it. Ads in 2026 aren't about hacks or
Speaker:perfect targeting. They're about clarity, creativity and
Speaker:trust. And if you're a smaller brand that can move quickly, test
Speaker:ideas and show up as a real human behind your products, that's not a
Speaker:disadvantage, it's an opportunity. You'll find CJ's details
Speaker:in the show notes. And if this episode has highlighted gaps in your
Speaker:margins, cash flow, or your platform for growth, that's exactly
Speaker:the work I do with my clients. So why not head to resilient
Speaker:retailclub.com to find out more about my services. Thanks for
Speaker:listening and I'll see you next week.