Forget funnels, logo types, landing pages and all of that.
Speaker AIf you're starting up as a new coach, this is how you get to 10k month fast in 2026.
Speaker AI love this game we're going to do in this episode which is about what would you do in 2026 if you're starting over from scratch?
Speaker ALet's say we lost everything we need to start up tomorrow.
Speaker ALet's say we lost everything, even our stuff.
Speaker ASo many accounts and we needed to make a new account on social media and we need to start over.
Speaker ANo one knows who we are, what we do.
Speaker AWe can even say it's a new niche.
Speaker ASo we really are starting from scratch where most online coaches are starting their business.
Speaker AHow are we going to do to get to 10k month fast?
Speaker AThat's what we're going to discover in this episode.
Speaker BIf you're listening to this, I would like you to realize that the only reason why you see complexity in execution and achieving these results is because the perspective doesn't allow for anything than overwhelm or complexity.
Speaker ASo.
Speaker AHey Lukas, what's going on at the moment for you?
Speaker BWe've spent so much time cleaning out our books for our bookkeepers and for the government and stuff as well as structures, routines, SOPs everything that we are doing.
Speaker BWe've been cleaning, cleaning, cleaning, cleaning latest today and in the last couple of days we've been away and we've been planning exactly what to execute and how to run our business forward.
Speaker BSo a lot of cleaning we're not done.
Speaker BIt's like breaking up everything to create a new structure and it feels really good.
Speaker BWe took a couple of days to spend at a spa to do this.
Speaker AYeah, I think that's it might be the best thing about this episode if you haven't already.
Speaker AMake sure you book in time in your life to get out of where you normally at, get out of your normal physical space and.
Speaker AAnd think new thoughts.
Speaker ASo thinking days and we do our thinking days and this was a little bit bigger.
Speaker AWe were way for a couple of days in a nice bar hotel but we had a clear agenda, working on our life, our personal life, our private life, what we want to achieve.
Speaker AA lot of different things and of course the business as well and making plans for this year and we're going to check in at least four times during this year to make sure we on track with everything.
Speaker ASo if you haven't done it, make sure you put in thinking days into your calendar.
Speaker BYeah.
Speaker BAnd it's what we we've done since we started five years ago.
Speaker ASo we're gonna speak about how to get those first 10k month if you're just starting up.
Speaker ABecause beginning of the year a lot of new people are starting up as online coaches and there's some mistakes we've seen done.
Speaker ALike we've been Working now with 900 coaches in across 19 different countries, across all niches.
Speaker BYeah.
Speaker BBut we've worked with more than 6,000 coaches.
Speaker BWe've seen that in all of them.
Speaker AYeah.
Speaker AOne of the most common things we see is that coaches get stuck in brand building before income.
Speaker ALike, I'm building up my brand, I'm doing content.
Speaker AI'm not even expecting to make money right now.
Speaker AI'm just building up my brand.
Speaker BOr even easier, just doing the wrong stuff.
Speaker AYeah.
Speaker ABut.
Speaker AAnd I think this is interesting because I want to make it clear because if we're speaking about doing brand building as the first.
Speaker ADoing content.
Speaker ADoing content.
Speaker ADoing content because I want to build up.
Speaker AI hear a lot of people are believing that if I just do content and this is a belief.
Speaker ASo it's not like for them, it's not the wrong stuff.
Speaker AJust doing marketing without a clear plan and actually funnel with that.
Speaker AWhat is going to happen in that marketing and how are you going to grow is leading to nowhere.
Speaker BYeah.
Speaker BAnd even further, if you're trying to do brand building content of helping people to acknowledge your existence, you must have done some thinking before that.
Speaker BAnd I'm not against thinking per se.
Speaker BBut if you're thinking about your brand and if you're planning what your brand is going to be like the biggest thing that you're doing and the biggest problem is that you're trying to exclude yourself from the process.
Speaker AYeah.
Speaker BWhich means that you're trying to build a brand that is going to lift your business up when it's literally never going to happen.
Speaker BYeah.
Speaker BIt's you that's going to lift your business up.
Speaker BAnd then you need to become the brand and by your personality.
Speaker BThe brand needs to grow out of who you are, not the other way around.
Speaker AIf you focus on brand building, it also means that you're focusing on marketing.
Speaker AMarketing is not selling.
Speaker AYou can do marketing from today, in the next 10 years without ever, ever getting a client.
Speaker AIt's sales and marketing is not the same.
Speaker ASo if you're only focusing on doing marketing, but you have no focus on sales, you're not going to make money.
Speaker ALet's just clear out the facts.
Speaker AMaking 10k month is something that is happening because of sales.
Speaker AMarketing is a step above that, that's about absolutely.
Speaker ABuilding a long term brand is also attracting leads.
Speaker ABut how to get clients is about selling.
Speaker AMaking money is about sales.
Speaker ABut there's also another thing that makes this.
Speaker AThe reason why this happens is often because I see a lot of coaches are afraid that they need more.
Speaker AThey don't believe they have enough or they don't believe they have a strong enough offer and they're not confident enough to go out and start giving offers.
Speaker ASo they're holding back until they are ready.
Speaker AAnd the thing is, when do people ever get ready?
Speaker AI don't think anyone who's making the first 10k feels like they're super, super ready.
Speaker BIf you are ready.
Speaker AYeah.
Speaker BAnd don't feel ready, then you are ready.
Speaker AYeah.
Speaker BIf you are not ready and you feel not ready, then get ready.
Speaker BYeah.
Speaker BAnd you will not feel ready.
Speaker BThe feeling follows.
Speaker BAnd it's the same thing all the time.
Speaker BThe emotions are a natural response in a human being.
Speaker BYeah.
Speaker AAnd understand you can move.
Speaker AEven though you don't feel 100 ready, you never feel that.
Speaker BNo.
Speaker AAnd nothing will ever be perfect.
Speaker ASo for everyone who's a perfectionist sitting out there waiting for it, it needs to be perfect.
Speaker AMy offer needs to be perfect.
Speaker AMy need to be.
Speaker AIt will never be perfect.
Speaker BNo.
Speaker BNo matter what you create.
Speaker BGive it a couple of weeks and you need to update it again because it isn't awesome anymore because you've grown.
Speaker BThis conversation is so important and I could talk about it for hours.
Speaker BI won't.
Speaker BBut the only thing that I would like to give as a gift is that no matter what you think, your brain is lying to you.
Speaker AYeah.
Speaker BSo don't listen to your brain.
Speaker BStay in your head.
Speaker BYou're dead.
Speaker BStay in your heart.
Speaker BYou're smart.
Speaker BYou need to move no matter what your thoughts.
Speaker BThoughts say.
Speaker AThese are some of the things that is holding most people back.
Speaker ASo if anyone listening right now and you've been thinking for a while, I need to launch my business, this will be some of the things that's going on right now for you.
Speaker AAnd this is your cue to get started right now.
Speaker ABut there's one more thing, and that is people building their program for ages before they want to launch them.
Speaker AIf you're spending any time building up a program because you believe your program needs to be ready before you can sell it, you.
Speaker AYou already are wasting your time.
Speaker AYou build a program while you have your clients there.
Speaker BYeah.
Speaker BAnd it's exactly what Reid Hoffman said.
Speaker BThe founder of LinkedIn.
Speaker BIf you're not embarrassed by your first launch, you launch too late.
Speaker AYeah.
Speaker BYou are not capable of building the perfect program until you've had 50 clients go through the process.
Speaker BYeah.
Speaker AAnd it doesn't matter.
Speaker AWe're not speaking if you're selling group programs or if you're selling individual programs.
Speaker BNot at all.
Speaker BNot at all.
Speaker BAnd you shouldn't sell spot hours, like by 10 sessions or stuff, because then you're forgetting the most important thing for the client, which is the concrete outcome.
Speaker BWhat is the specific outcome we're going to achieve by doing this coaching?
Speaker BAnd it's not about what you need to build.
Speaker BIt's about the insecurity of not feeling serious.
Speaker BSo it comes, either comes down to some kind of imposter that, like, I don't, like I don't dare to, to say that I'm something that I'm not 100% believe in, because I don't.
Speaker BI haven't had 50 clients yet.
Speaker BSo imposter is one thing and the other might be perfectionism.
Speaker BWhat you need to do is trust that you are, you are going to be the reason why your clients are successful.
Speaker AYeah.
Speaker BAnd then lean against your own commitment to not fail your future clients and then follow them step by step as they do it.
Speaker BBecause you know how.
Speaker BIf you believe you can build a program or if you can believe you can build a brand, or if you.
Speaker ABelieve, if you believe you can help people.
Speaker BYeah.
Speaker BIf you believe you have all of these things which leads you to start doing and creating and be creative with all of these things, that doesn't build your business, then you can lean against that confidence instead.
Speaker BAnd by that confidence you can close people and actually start making a difference for people.
Speaker ASo the worst thing that can happen and what we see is that you are having a delayed income.
Speaker AI know people really want to lighten themselves because most people, when they start up as a coaches, if you have a goal, if the goal is doing 5k month or 10k month and you're not doing any money, any revenue, having any income, every single month you're not having any income is a month that you're losing money.
Speaker AAnd I know we're trying to lie to ourselves, but it's not real money because I never had the money.
Speaker ANo, you didn't have the money.
Speaker ABut if you're doing the right things, you would have had those money.
Speaker AThat means you lost the money.
Speaker ASo we need to stop lying to ourselves.
Speaker AThere's a lot of things where we keep lying to ourselves and it's just stalling.
Speaker BIt's not about what you believe, what you feel or anything.
Speaker BIt means that you don't have a business unless there is income, because that's what a business is.
Speaker BSo if you're serious about making €10,000amonth as a first kind of goal, it isn't about what you're able to create, but what influence you're able to give to have other people act.
Speaker AAnd I really want you to understand also that we are not trying to push to you or talk down to you.
Speaker AWe've been there.
Speaker AWe started from zero six years ago and we made multiple, multiple millions yearly.
Speaker ASo you can absolutely get to 10k month really fast.
Speaker ASo let's map it out.
Speaker BYes.
Speaker ALet's put it into some clear steps.
Speaker ASo step number one, when someone just made the decision that what I'm going to do in my business is I'm going to focus on revenue and I'm committed to that, what is the first step they should do?
Speaker BFirst of all, you need to make a decision of who you're going to help and what you're going to help them achieve.
Speaker BAnd I want to emphasize decision.
Speaker BIt's not 14 week brainstorming session.
Speaker BIt's a decision.
Speaker BYou choose and then decide.
Speaker AYeah.
Speaker BAnd usually we say that you have three things to make that decision.
Speaker BYou have, first of all, their purchasing capacity.
Speaker BWe have your congruency, which means that you have the knowledge of how to help that person and we check into your passion.
Speaker BAre you actually passionate about solving the problems that occur in this niche?
Speaker BYeah.
Speaker BChoose your niche.
Speaker BChoose who you're going to help and what you're going to have to do.
Speaker BThat's basically the first thing.
Speaker BIf that was the first thing, what would you say is the second thing to do?
Speaker ASo once you've chosen that, that's perfect.
Speaker ANow we have a messaging.
Speaker AWe need to formulate a clear message.
Speaker ASo I'm going to help Avatar to get this outcome.
Speaker AWe need to understand what's the problem they have.
Speaker AIf we understand who to help and what we want to help them with, we want to understand why do they need help.
Speaker AWe don't want to only know what you do.
Speaker AWe also want to know what problem do you solve.
Speaker ASo now you have a messaging.
Speaker AI help this avatar with this problem to get this outcome.
Speaker AThat's very clear.
Speaker ASo now we have a clear messaging and we can now go out and find these people.
Speaker BYeah.
Speaker AWhich take us to step number three.
Speaker BYeah.
Speaker BAnd step number three, the first thing that you do when it comes to starting to talk about it isn't Necessarily to make content for the sake of content.
Speaker BThe first thing that I would do is that I would use a campaign.
Speaker AYeah.
Speaker BSocial media gives everyone a voice, which means that if for free, you can make your voice heard beyond the four walls of your home without leaving your home.
Speaker BYou make content with an intention.
Speaker BSo you talk about something with the intention of pointing towards something.
Speaker BAnd the moment you start pointing towards something, people are actually going to lean towards following what you're pointing at.
Speaker BAnd that is why a campaign is so good, because it does two things.
Speaker BNumber one, it helps you to be very, very clear.
Speaker BAnd number two, it kind of pops the sherry getting you started, getting your voice out there.
Speaker BWhat could a campaign look like?
Speaker BIt could be.
Speaker ACan I give just one sentence to that?
Speaker BYes, please.
Speaker ABecause it's about testing your messaging.
Speaker ASo now you decided on what message.
Speaker AWhat we want to do in this campaign is we want to test.
Speaker ABecause the worst thing that can happen is that you're doing content for the next six years and no one has the freaking clue about what you do and why and who you help.
Speaker ASo we want to immediately test the messaging.
Speaker ADo people react to it?
Speaker ADo they understand it?
Speaker ADo they want it?
Speaker BYeah, yeah.
Speaker ASo you're not saving, you're not wasting any time.
Speaker BOf course, of course.
Speaker BReally good.
Speaker BAnd if we're looking at a campaign, the easiest way to create a campaign is to be very blunt and be kind of like, I'm looking for 5 avatar that wants to do and achieve resolve, whatever it is.
Speaker BWhat word?
Speaker BAchieve this in 90 days.
Speaker BAnd I actually did this.
Speaker BI made a post on my social media, on my Facebook at that point and I said, I'm looking for 10 coaches that wants to make €10,000 within the next hundred days.
Speaker ANow I'm going to back up again because you said you made the post, you got 100.
Speaker ALike a lot of people now a lot of the people who are just starting up, they're in the face where, yeah, that's Great.
Speaker AI got 150 followers and most of them are my friends and my family.
Speaker BYeah.
Speaker ASo what am I going to do?
Speaker BYou're going to be surprised when you realize that the first €10,000 might actually come from people that you already know and which is super, super good.
Speaker BNow, the other part of it is that, yep, we need to start building something for long term.
Speaker BWe need to start building your following.
Speaker BWe need to start making sure that you connect to more people long term.
Speaker BStrategy is to actually grow your audience, get new followers, get new people to engage with you.
Speaker AYeah.
Speaker BBut the other strategy is that you can actually go into public forums and throw it out into groups of people that doesn't know you yet.
Speaker BIt qualifies.
Speaker BIs your message right or.
Speaker BAnd it gets your voice heard and you're starting to automatically establish awareness that you are a coach that helps people to do this.
Speaker AYeah.
Speaker ASo if you're using Facebook, LinkedIn, you can use the groups there.
Speaker AIf you're on Instagram, the good news is that Instagram now even pushes your content out to non followers way more than they've ever done before.
Speaker ASo you can still get out there.
Speaker ABut even if you work on Facebook or Instagram, you might want to use Facebook groups just to get the first 10k, just to get tested out there.
Speaker AIf you have a search 0 follower account while you build up the account.
Speaker ASo that's it.
Speaker ASo we're testing out a campaign I want to throw in.
Speaker AIf you're listening to this right now and you want our specific help, what campaign?
Speaker ATo do a specific text.
Speaker AIf you want our help to do that, we actually going to put up a workshop where we are going to invite a group of coaches and we're going to work with them to get the next five clients where we'll give you the campaign, everything you need to get five clients fast, like within the.
Speaker BNext month, three days, one and a half hours per day and then on the other end.
Speaker BDone.
Speaker AYeah.
Speaker ASo just go down and find the link to a workshop and come and join us.
Speaker ANow we got the campaign text out there.
Speaker ANow what?
Speaker AWhat will happen now?
Speaker BWhat we're going to look for is responses, engagement.
Speaker BWe're going to look for people who raises their hand and say, yep, that's for me, that's what I want.
Speaker BAnd two things can happen.
Speaker BEither you get it or you don't.
Speaker BYeah.
Speaker BIf you don't get answers, then you know that.
Speaker BOkay.
Speaker BIt's either because no one saw it or because the message is wrong.
Speaker BSo you need to make a qualified guess.
Speaker BAnd if you wrote it on your mobile phone or if you wrote it on a sticky note and put it by your fridge, you can trust that you didn't get ice on it.
Speaker BThat's why people didn't react.
Speaker BIf you get a few number of likes, you can trust that you don't have any idea if the message works or not because people haven't seen it.
Speaker BThat's why we recommend to go, even if you're working on Instagram, go into a Facebook group that is either on topic of what you're doing.
Speaker BSo maybe There is a free marketing group or if you work with small help businesses or whatever, go into a group like that where you can see that there is activity.
Speaker BIf you still don't get any answers, then you can start to be okay, is my message vague?
Speaker BBecause most often that's the biggest problem.
Speaker BI'm not clear enough.
Speaker BIt's not that people doesn't want it, it's that I'm not clear enough.
Speaker AYes.
Speaker AAnd we are past the times where you can be fluffy in your communication.
Speaker APeople need to understand what you're writing.
Speaker BYeah.
Speaker ASo we need to get the engagement.
Speaker AAnd then what happens when we have.
Speaker BPeople engaging with our thing, then it's time for us to have a conversation with them.
Speaker BSo we are starting to engage back to them and the first step is to acknowledge them and say, so this.
Speaker AIs in the chats now we're taking it in private.
Speaker BWe start a chat.
Speaker AYeah.
Speaker BVery important rule.
Speaker BWe give value in public and we sell in private.
Speaker AYeah.
Speaker BSo we start a conversation, we acknowledge them, we say thank you, thank you for raising your hand to this.
Speaker BY, X, Y or Z.
Speaker BAnd now is about starting to see it through the lens of being able to facilitate the conversation that it's not about selling but it's about preparing to be able to get to the point where you can present it to them.
Speaker BSo it's about building a relationship with them.
Speaker BSo what made you interested in this?
Speaker BCan you tell me a little bit about specifically what it would mean for you and what it would look like?
Speaker AYeah.
Speaker AWhat's the problem that you're having about this?
Speaker BDepending on what the post look like.
Speaker BSo what's the problem that you would like to have solved?
Speaker BWe do what we call a qualification process.
Speaker AYeah.
Speaker ASo it's a chat sequence we use.
Speaker BYeah.
Speaker BAnd making sure that I understand this person.
Speaker BIt's a good fit for who I am.
Speaker BI think that I can help them.
Speaker BAnd it's literally a service based conversation.
Speaker AYeah.
Speaker BOnce we have done that, we come to another step.
Speaker BAnd what is that?
Speaker AGiving an offer.
Speaker BYeah.
Speaker BAnd what is that offer?
Speaker AI would give the offer of if you believe this is a person that wants to have the help right now, it's important for them and you believe you can help them, then we can ask them, hey, okay, I believe I can help you.
Speaker AShould we jump on a call and just so I can figure out a little bit more about what that would look like and.
Speaker AYeah, and have a chat about it.
Speaker AAnd you schedule a sales call and then on the sales call you just follow SA school script, you can find it.
Speaker AWe've done a lot of giveaways on those.
Speaker AAnd then you figure out if this is a great fit.
Speaker AYou give your offer to this person that is already qualified, already know what you work with, and it's already warm.
Speaker BYeah.
Speaker BThere are a few things that absolutely might be like, okay, but I don't have clarity about a few different things.
Speaker BYep.
Speaker BThis was a run through.
Speaker BSo there is a way to do the sales call, there is a way to do the chats, there is a way to create the campaigns, there is a way to create the message, and there is a way to set your price for your program, to conduct your offer so that you know that you have a good offer to present and how to structure all of that.
Speaker AYeah.
Speaker BAnd if we had all the time in the world and if I could snap my fingers and just give it to you, I would.
Speaker BBut since I don't have that offer, make sure that you come and join us in one of our workshops or sessions and we'll show you.
Speaker AYeah, definitely.
Speaker ASo this is how we would go out and get our first or quickly get 10k month.
Speaker BYeah.
Speaker AEveryone can do it.
Speaker AEveryone can make 10k month.
Speaker BYes.
Speaker BAnd you need to be okay with looking like a beginner when you do it because it's just.
Speaker AIt's just a part of the game.
Speaker BYeah.
Speaker ASo I hope you like this episode and if you don't subscribe.
Speaker AYeah.
Speaker AAnd we'll see you next week.
Speaker BTake care, guys.
Speaker BSam.