1 00:00:00,130 --> 00:00:06,250 Gift biz unwrapped episode 201 intuition and our gut feelings and 2 00:00:06,250 --> 00:00:08,280 reactions, pure wisdom, 3 00:00:09,400 --> 00:00:10,630 Attention, gifters, 4 00:00:10,630 --> 00:00:14,800 bakers, crafters and makers pursuing your dream can be fun. 5 00:00:15,070 --> 00:00:18,490 Whether you have an established business or looking to start one 6 00:00:18,490 --> 00:00:21,190 now you are in the right place. 7 00:00:21,430 --> 00:00:23,800 This is give to biz unwrapped, 8 00:00:24,010 --> 00:00:27,640 helping you turn your skill into a flourishing business. 9 00:00:27,910 --> 00:00:31,480 Join us for an episode packed full of invaluable guidance, 10 00:00:31,600 --> 00:00:35,620 resources and the support you need to grow your gift biz. 11 00:00:35,860 --> 00:00:38,350 Here is your host gift biz gal, 12 00:00:38,500 --> 00:00:39,700 Sue moon Heights. 13 00:00:40,270 --> 00:00:40,750 Hi there, 14 00:00:40,930 --> 00:00:43,710 it's Sue and thank you So much for joining me here 15 00:00:43,710 --> 00:00:46,980 today. I want to start off by doing something a little 16 00:00:46,980 --> 00:00:47,970 bit differently. 17 00:00:48,180 --> 00:00:51,990 I've talked to some other hosts of podcasts and they're sharing 18 00:00:51,990 --> 00:00:56,790 with me how much their listeners enjoy when they get some 19 00:00:56,790 --> 00:00:58,260 of their reviews read. 20 00:00:58,350 --> 00:01:01,290 I think it's just fun to have your name highlighted online 21 00:01:01,350 --> 00:01:04,320 and it also means then that you get a little bit 22 00:01:04,320 --> 00:01:06,210 of exposure for your business. 23 00:01:06,360 --> 00:01:06,840 I don't know. 24 00:01:06,840 --> 00:01:09,780 I kind of felt like it was a little self serving, 25 00:01:09,810 --> 00:01:11,910 but in talking with some other people, 26 00:01:11,940 --> 00:01:14,220 maybe I should be thinking of this differently. 27 00:01:14,550 --> 00:01:16,290 So I'm going to do this for a while. 28 00:01:16,320 --> 00:01:19,050 I'm going to pull up some reviews and share them with 29 00:01:19,050 --> 00:01:24,600 you. Today's review comes from Annie of natural Annie essentials. 30 00:01:24,830 --> 00:01:25,670 She says, 31 00:01:25,970 --> 00:01:28,670 love listening while pouring my candles. 32 00:01:28,880 --> 00:01:30,650 Thank you for your amazing show, 33 00:01:30,650 --> 00:01:34,400 Sue. I've been a long time listener and I love the 34 00:01:34,400 --> 00:01:38,810 show. It just keeps getting better and better always tuned in. 35 00:01:39,170 --> 00:01:40,700 Thank you so much Annie. 36 00:01:40,700 --> 00:01:42,260 I so appreciate it. 37 00:01:42,570 --> 00:01:45,240 It's so helpful for me too to get feedback that you 38 00:01:45,240 --> 00:01:46,830 guys are enjoying the show. 39 00:01:47,130 --> 00:01:48,480 Plus, as I've mentioned before, 40 00:01:48,480 --> 00:01:50,250 that helps us get more visibility. 41 00:01:50,410 --> 00:01:53,260 So if you're interested in doing a rating and review, 42 00:01:53,420 --> 00:01:56,600 your name too might be highlighted at the start of the 43 00:01:56,600 --> 00:01:59,990 podcast. Now let's dive into what we're going to be talking 44 00:01:59,990 --> 00:02:00,830 about today. 45 00:02:01,310 --> 00:02:05,540 The biggest thing when I ask about challenges in a business 46 00:02:05,540 --> 00:02:09,470 that's already established is how do I get more customers? 47 00:02:09,710 --> 00:02:12,680 How do I get eyes on my business? 48 00:02:12,870 --> 00:02:16,980 And towards that end I have Amanda here who's talking about 49 00:02:16,980 --> 00:02:20,610 something different than the obvious thing that everyone goes to today. 50 00:02:20,780 --> 00:02:23,000 It's always now social media, 51 00:02:23,030 --> 00:02:25,190 Facebook, Instagram stories, 52 00:02:25,220 --> 00:02:26,060 all of that. 53 00:02:26,690 --> 00:02:29,900 A lot of us were forgetting that some of the traditional 54 00:02:30,170 --> 00:02:35,630 PR methods still can be very powerful for your business. 55 00:02:36,050 --> 00:02:37,850 So I've brought on the expert. 56 00:02:38,110 --> 00:02:40,900 Amanda's going to talk to us about whether your business is 57 00:02:40,900 --> 00:02:43,900 in a position and is ready for media placement, 58 00:02:44,290 --> 00:02:47,860 how you proactively pursue opportunities, 59 00:02:48,280 --> 00:02:53,050 who you approach and what you should put in your pitch 60 00:02:53,110 --> 00:02:56,650 when you are representing yourself to all different outlets, 61 00:02:56,650 --> 00:02:57,970 whether it's a magazine, 62 00:02:58,000 --> 00:02:59,020 radio or, 63 00:03:00,110 --> 00:03:03,500 and finally at the end she has a lot of free 64 00:03:03,500 --> 00:03:06,890 resources that you'll be able to access that will bring you 65 00:03:06,890 --> 00:03:10,100 deeper over and above what she's going to talk about today. 66 00:03:10,280 --> 00:03:12,620 So without any more delay, 67 00:03:12,830 --> 00:03:14,660 let's get on to the interview. 68 00:03:20,440 --> 00:03:23,080 Thrilled to introduce you to Amanda Berlin. 69 00:03:23,360 --> 00:03:26,360 After more than a decade in the New York city public 70 00:03:26,360 --> 00:03:27,380 relations world, 71 00:03:27,380 --> 00:03:30,710 Amanda now uses her pitch powers for good. 72 00:03:30,710 --> 00:03:33,380 She helps entrepreneurs step into their presence. 73 00:03:33,380 --> 00:03:36,590 Create a story that inspires others and spread their message in 74 00:03:36,590 --> 00:03:37,930 the media. 75 00:03:37,930 --> 00:03:40,690 Amanda and her clients have been featured in all types of 76 00:03:40,210 --> 00:03:44,870 media, from business insider to entrepreneur on fire and from w 77 00:03:44,870 --> 00:03:48,500 N Y w Fox five to bustle.com. 78 00:03:48,810 --> 00:03:52,670 She's also the host of the empowered publicity podcast and loves 79 00:03:52,670 --> 00:03:56,600 army and soul powered business owners with the ideas and skillset 80 00:03:56,600 --> 00:04:01,850 they need to go from hidden industry gem to recognized trusted 81 00:04:01,940 --> 00:04:03,460 expert. Amanda, 82 00:04:03,460 --> 00:04:06,130 welcome to the gift biz unwrapped podcast. 83 00:04:06,280 --> 00:04:07,000 Hi Sue. 84 00:04:07,030 --> 00:04:08,830 Thank you so much for having me. 85 00:04:09,050 --> 00:04:13,370 I am so excited to have this conversation for our listeners, 86 00:04:13,370 --> 00:04:15,800 but also a little secret also for me. 87 00:04:17,410 --> 00:04:21,400 I'm excited to be with you and this is a twist 88 00:04:21,460 --> 00:04:26,530 on the work that I do and those kind of twists, 89 00:04:26,530 --> 00:04:31,150 keep things interesting and definitely helped me get super creative, 90 00:04:31,150 --> 00:04:32,620 so I'm excited to dive in. 91 00:04:32,720 --> 00:04:34,280 Wonderful. Well, 92 00:04:34,280 --> 00:04:36,440 we start this off in a little bit of a different 93 00:04:36,440 --> 00:04:38,270 way because as I was describing to you, 94 00:04:38,270 --> 00:04:41,120 we have an audience of creators and makers here, 95 00:04:41,320 --> 00:04:44,650 so I'm going to make you do like the inner Amanda 96 00:04:44,740 --> 00:04:49,790 creator right now and that is to define what a motivational 97 00:04:49,790 --> 00:04:53,030 candle would look like if it speaks all about you. 98 00:04:53,030 --> 00:04:54,860 So what color would it be and what would be a 99 00:04:54,860 --> 00:04:56,720 quote on your candle? 100 00:04:57,040 --> 00:04:57,460 Thank you. 101 00:04:57,460 --> 00:05:04,000 Yeah, so my motivational candle casts a pure white glowing light. 102 00:05:04,190 --> 00:05:08,510 And the reason why I chose that was because I really 103 00:05:08,510 --> 00:05:14,090 think of like intuition and our gut feelings and reactions as 104 00:05:14,090 --> 00:05:15,440 like pure wisdom. 105 00:05:15,630 --> 00:05:20,280 And I think of that motivational candle as being a reflection 106 00:05:20,280 --> 00:05:22,020 of that true wisdom. 107 00:05:22,250 --> 00:05:27,290 And if we cultivate the ability to listen to our gut 108 00:05:27,290 --> 00:05:29,510 instincts and to trust ourselves, 109 00:05:29,540 --> 00:05:32,420 even when it comes to like an idea that we might 110 00:05:32,420 --> 00:05:35,240 have before we discounted and say, 111 00:05:35,270 --> 00:05:37,580 Oh, that could never happen for me or I'm not big 112 00:05:37,580 --> 00:05:41,900 enough to pitch myself there or that person would never want 113 00:05:41,900 --> 00:05:43,670 to collaborate with me or whatever. 114 00:05:43,670 --> 00:05:47,510 If we pay attention to those kinds of gut base reactions 115 00:05:47,570 --> 00:05:49,610 and go with it and trust it, 116 00:05:49,640 --> 00:05:52,250 then I think it really can't steer us wrong. 117 00:05:52,250 --> 00:05:52,670 And there's, 118 00:05:52,670 --> 00:05:55,160 even if it doesn't end up working out the way that 119 00:05:55,160 --> 00:05:56,030 we thought it might, 120 00:05:56,060 --> 00:05:59,780 there's something comes out of pursuing that idea. 121 00:05:59,780 --> 00:06:03,920 So my candle is this pure white to represent this kind 122 00:06:03,920 --> 00:06:05,120 of, I don't really, 123 00:06:05,180 --> 00:06:06,440 I'm not a religious person, 124 00:06:06,440 --> 00:06:08,960 but I was prompted to use the word divine. 125 00:06:08,960 --> 00:06:13,940 This like kind of like guided intuitive process that we could 126 00:06:13,940 --> 00:06:14,930 learn to trust. 127 00:06:15,120 --> 00:06:17,940 Well I think it's a deep message here anyway because with 128 00:06:17,940 --> 00:06:21,120 us being makers so often we think that because it's something 129 00:06:21,120 --> 00:06:22,350 that comes easily to us, 130 00:06:22,350 --> 00:06:24,790 number one and that we've made ourselves, 131 00:06:24,820 --> 00:06:27,940 it's less than what other people could possibly do. 132 00:06:27,940 --> 00:06:30,670 So you talking about an inner glow and listening to the 133 00:06:30,670 --> 00:06:35,350 message of yourself and also the creative powers within ourselves is 134 00:06:35,350 --> 00:06:36,760 really powerful for us here. 135 00:06:36,760 --> 00:06:37,690 So I love that. 136 00:06:37,870 --> 00:06:38,680 Great start. 137 00:06:38,710 --> 00:06:39,370 Thank you. 138 00:06:39,790 --> 00:06:41,290 Loving the candle so far. 139 00:06:42,130 --> 00:06:43,030 And what's the quote? 140 00:06:43,240 --> 00:06:47,020 So the quote that I would put on my candle is 141 00:06:47,050 --> 00:06:51,150 by Maya Angelou and I've actually seen it attributed to a 142 00:06:51,150 --> 00:06:52,200 couple of different people, 143 00:06:52,200 --> 00:06:53,820 but I believe that it is hers. 144 00:06:54,050 --> 00:06:55,910 People will forget what you said. 145 00:06:55,940 --> 00:06:57,950 People will forget what you did, 146 00:06:57,980 --> 00:07:01,400 but people will never forget how you made them feel. 147 00:07:01,600 --> 00:07:05,440 And that is so meaningful to me on so many levels, 148 00:07:05,470 --> 00:07:08,710 not the least of which being that I had it tacked 149 00:07:08,770 --> 00:07:12,280 up in my cubicle when I worked in the corporate world 150 00:07:12,460 --> 00:07:16,240 and it really served as a reminder to me that even 151 00:07:16,240 --> 00:07:22,060 in this corporate environment where the morale was low and people 152 00:07:22,060 --> 00:07:25,300 could be rude and the culture didn't resonate with me, 153 00:07:25,330 --> 00:07:29,410 that it really mattered how I showed up for myself because 154 00:07:29,410 --> 00:07:31,330 I wanted to be proud of myself. 155 00:07:31,330 --> 00:07:32,140 At the end of the day, 156 00:07:32,140 --> 00:07:34,770 I wanted to be proud of how I acted and I 157 00:07:34,770 --> 00:07:38,370 also realized that I could have a positive impact in the 158 00:07:38,370 --> 00:07:42,870 midst of all of the negativity and sometimes vitriol in the 159 00:07:42,870 --> 00:07:43,560 corporate world. 160 00:07:43,560 --> 00:07:47,070 I could actually have a positive impact simply by showing up 161 00:07:47,100 --> 00:07:49,350 as a pleasant person. 162 00:07:50,200 --> 00:07:53,380 Yeah, like a real life person who has emotions and let's 163 00:07:53,380 --> 00:07:53,830 face it, 164 00:07:53,830 --> 00:07:57,640 relationships really in the end when you strip away everything else, 165 00:07:57,670 --> 00:07:59,230 it's all about relationships. 166 00:08:00,120 --> 00:08:01,530 Yes, absolutely. 167 00:08:01,890 --> 00:08:03,240 Okay, so let's spin off this. 168 00:08:03,240 --> 00:08:06,240 This is perfect because what I'd like to do is start 169 00:08:06,240 --> 00:08:08,880 by talking a little bit about your corporate world and how 170 00:08:08,880 --> 00:08:10,860 you got to where you are here today. 171 00:08:11,210 --> 00:08:16,850 Absolutely. So I started out as a publicity strategist and really 172 00:08:16,880 --> 00:08:19,940 a publicist in the very beginning of my career, 173 00:08:20,000 --> 00:08:25,820 I worked in celebrity publicity and I wasn't that challenging most 174 00:08:25,820 --> 00:08:29,030 of the time to get our client's attention because they were 175 00:08:29,030 --> 00:08:33,670 doing creative projects that were super fun and they were famous. 176 00:08:34,540 --> 00:08:37,320 Yeah. So everyone wanted them probably Exactly. 177 00:08:37,380 --> 00:08:38,310 Most of the time. 178 00:08:38,310 --> 00:08:42,360 Sometimes we had authors or B or C or D level 179 00:08:42,360 --> 00:08:45,270 celebrities that were more of a sell, 180 00:08:45,470 --> 00:08:47,150 and that was where the work came in. 181 00:08:47,150 --> 00:08:50,720 But that was where I started and it was really fun. 182 00:08:50,920 --> 00:08:55,770 But eventually I moved over to a more traditional agency role 183 00:08:55,800 --> 00:08:59,610 where my job was getting our clients electronic publicity. 184 00:08:59,610 --> 00:09:02,580 So the team that I worked on didn't specialize in print 185 00:09:02,580 --> 00:09:06,180 publicity as much as we specialized in television and radio at 186 00:09:06,180 --> 00:09:06,750 the time. 187 00:09:06,960 --> 00:09:10,590 And then I worked my way up to become the editorial 188 00:09:10,590 --> 00:09:14,970 director at a small firm that specialized exclusively in radio and 189 00:09:14,970 --> 00:09:19,220 television and it was incumbent upon me to meet with our 190 00:09:19,220 --> 00:09:23,480 clients and gather all of their messages for the new product 191 00:09:23,480 --> 00:09:26,690 that they were launching or the new pharmaceutical that they just 192 00:09:26,690 --> 00:09:31,070 got approved or the new initiative that their nonprofit was launching 193 00:09:31,270 --> 00:09:36,130 and take those messages and pair them with a spokesperson who 194 00:09:36,130 --> 00:09:39,450 would deliver those messages in an interview and then create a 195 00:09:39,450 --> 00:09:42,390 story that was going to be interesting to the media. 196 00:09:42,590 --> 00:09:44,900 And that was what I did day in and day out. 197 00:09:44,900 --> 00:09:49,010 I wrote pitches and conferred with our clients on what they 198 00:09:49,010 --> 00:09:54,080 would think is an acceptable delivery of their message while also 199 00:09:54,080 --> 00:09:58,130 balancing the needs of our media contact out there in the 200 00:09:58,130 --> 00:10:00,170 world. Because the media, 201 00:10:00,200 --> 00:10:02,510 and we'll probably dive more into this, 202 00:10:02,510 --> 00:10:04,880 the media is not going to just talk about your product. 203 00:10:05,540 --> 00:10:08,960 You need to create a story around your product so that 204 00:10:08,990 --> 00:10:12,260 the media has a reason to give you the platform to 205 00:10:12,260 --> 00:10:14,480 deliver your message to their audience. 206 00:10:14,660 --> 00:10:16,490 So that was what my job was, 207 00:10:16,490 --> 00:10:20,390 was helping my clients understand the story that we needed to 208 00:10:20,390 --> 00:10:24,620 tell about their product or about their new initiative or whatever 209 00:10:24,620 --> 00:10:25,160 it was. 210 00:10:25,350 --> 00:10:26,880 So at that point, 211 00:10:26,910 --> 00:10:30,660 I had been editorial director for about six years, 212 00:10:30,660 --> 00:10:34,740 and the last three years of that time I really knew 213 00:10:34,740 --> 00:10:36,690 that I needed to do something else. 214 00:10:36,920 --> 00:10:41,450 I was saying before that the culture was not aligned for 215 00:10:41,450 --> 00:10:45,140 me. The work didn't feel like it was making the world 216 00:10:45,140 --> 00:10:46,070 a better place. 217 00:10:46,070 --> 00:10:49,520 I felt a real pull to do something that had more 218 00:10:49,520 --> 00:10:53,420 of a positive impact and I really was burning out. 219 00:10:53,420 --> 00:10:56,360 I was burning out on all the writing that I had 220 00:10:56,360 --> 00:10:56,840 to do. 221 00:10:56,840 --> 00:11:00,230 I remember my boss at the time when I started that 222 00:11:00,230 --> 00:11:01,220 job, she said, 223 00:11:01,220 --> 00:11:03,620 you're going to burn out because it's a writing job and 224 00:11:03,620 --> 00:11:04,670 writers burnout. 225 00:11:04,670 --> 00:11:07,670 And I didn't really know what a burnout was even at 226 00:11:07,670 --> 00:11:08,270 that point, 227 00:11:08,270 --> 00:11:11,960 but I definitely was getting there further into those years. 228 00:11:11,960 --> 00:11:15,350 So I was burning out and really looking back on it 229 00:11:15,350 --> 00:11:16,220 in hindsight, 230 00:11:16,220 --> 00:11:18,590 it was the culture that was killing me. 231 00:11:18,590 --> 00:11:19,910 It was killing my soul. 232 00:11:20,050 --> 00:11:23,080 So for three years I really felt like I needed to 233 00:11:23,110 --> 00:11:24,400 move on and do something. 234 00:11:24,400 --> 00:11:27,360 I just didn't know what that was and I wasn't about 235 00:11:27,360 --> 00:11:31,290 to leave my well paying corporate job to go like figure 236 00:11:31,290 --> 00:11:31,710 it out. 237 00:11:31,740 --> 00:11:33,090 I lived in Manhattan, 238 00:11:33,120 --> 00:11:34,200 I owned an apartment, 239 00:11:34,200 --> 00:11:35,430 I had responsibilities. 240 00:11:35,570 --> 00:11:38,510 It was never my style to just be like, 241 00:11:38,570 --> 00:11:39,980 Oh well figure it out. 242 00:11:41,180 --> 00:11:44,930 But ultimately that did become what I did because I got 243 00:11:44,930 --> 00:11:46,610 let go from that job. 244 00:11:46,640 --> 00:11:51,230 They downsized and eventually went out of business during the tail 245 00:11:51,230 --> 00:11:53,240 end of the great recession. 246 00:11:53,470 --> 00:11:58,420 I got downsized And got let go in early 2012 actually 247 00:11:58,450 --> 00:12:00,070 around the time that we're recording this, 248 00:12:00,070 --> 00:12:04,180 it's early 2019 or coming up on next week is my 249 00:12:04,180 --> 00:12:08,470 seven year anniversary of being let go from that job and 250 00:12:08,500 --> 00:12:11,950 for the first year I really kind of dabbled and that 251 00:12:11,950 --> 00:12:12,790 was like my, 252 00:12:12,840 --> 00:12:17,140 I'll figure it out kind of moment because I allowed myself 253 00:12:17,140 --> 00:12:19,570 the time to sort of not in a, 254 00:12:19,720 --> 00:12:21,430 I wasn't that generous with myself, 255 00:12:21,460 --> 00:12:22,210 not in a like, 256 00:12:22,240 --> 00:12:23,770 Oh you'll figure it out kind of way. 257 00:12:23,770 --> 00:12:24,490 It was more like, 258 00:12:24,520 --> 00:12:26,200 why haven't you figured this out yet? 259 00:12:27,060 --> 00:12:28,380 Well it has to be stressful. 260 00:12:28,380 --> 00:12:29,220 I mean I'm with you. 261 00:12:29,220 --> 00:12:31,860 I agree with you that having to do it that way, 262 00:12:31,890 --> 00:12:34,200 if it was your own choice wouldn't be the way to 263 00:12:34,200 --> 00:12:36,450 go. And I'm an advocate because we have a lot of 264 00:12:36,450 --> 00:12:39,570 people listening here who are working a nine to five job 265 00:12:39,600 --> 00:12:42,240 and starting to build their business on the side and maybe 266 00:12:42,240 --> 00:12:43,380 it's only going to be on the side. 267 00:12:43,380 --> 00:12:44,550 Maybe that's what they want. 268 00:12:44,690 --> 00:12:47,180 But I do hear a lot of people who had the 269 00:12:47,180 --> 00:12:50,150 inner rumblings like you did that you're stain, 270 00:12:50,150 --> 00:12:52,820 but there could be something better for you and then you 271 00:12:52,820 --> 00:12:55,100 kind of get pushed into doing it. 272 00:12:55,100 --> 00:12:56,660 So probably the best thing ever. 273 00:12:56,850 --> 00:13:01,110 Absolutely, and it is really hard I think because I did 274 00:13:01,110 --> 00:13:03,540 want to start my own business for so many years and 275 00:13:03,540 --> 00:13:04,020 I didn't, 276 00:13:04,050 --> 00:13:05,160 not that I didn't do it, 277 00:13:05,160 --> 00:13:05,940 I tried, 278 00:13:06,060 --> 00:13:08,580 I actually did a lot of freelancing on the side and 279 00:13:08,580 --> 00:13:10,470 a lot of different things on the side, 280 00:13:10,500 --> 00:13:14,160 but really it's my belief and it really is just my 281 00:13:14,160 --> 00:13:17,580 belief. I haven't sorted this out via science in any sense 282 00:13:17,580 --> 00:13:18,360 of the word, 283 00:13:18,360 --> 00:13:22,230 but I believe that we kind of need to not have 284 00:13:22,230 --> 00:13:26,100 that safety net if we're going to make it an actual 285 00:13:26,160 --> 00:13:27,600 full time business. 286 00:13:27,630 --> 00:13:31,470 I feel like it's hard to have that plan be sort 287 00:13:31,470 --> 00:13:34,320 of like lingering there if you really want to go all 288 00:13:34,320 --> 00:13:36,240 in in your business. 289 00:13:36,420 --> 00:13:39,570 It's a good point because you're not as tempted then to 290 00:13:39,570 --> 00:13:42,750 go outside of what feels comfortable and safe for you. 291 00:13:42,970 --> 00:13:44,260 But if you need to, 292 00:13:44,380 --> 00:13:46,000 if you almost don't have a choice, 293 00:13:46,030 --> 00:13:47,350 then you take those more. 294 00:13:47,380 --> 00:13:49,300 What I would say risky actions, 295 00:13:49,300 --> 00:13:50,860 even though they're not really risky, 296 00:13:51,040 --> 00:13:53,590 it's probably more risky just to stay doing what you're doing 297 00:13:53,590 --> 00:13:55,000 cause you're not making any progress. 298 00:13:55,210 --> 00:13:58,150 Yeah. Actually I love that point when you said it's not 299 00:13:58,150 --> 00:13:59,080 really that risky. 300 00:13:59,110 --> 00:14:00,850 It does feel very risky. 301 00:14:00,850 --> 00:14:02,620 Everything feels like it's risky. 302 00:14:02,620 --> 00:14:05,470 But I think that it's important for us to remember to 303 00:14:05,470 --> 00:14:10,120 your point that the stakes are really very low in all 304 00:14:10,120 --> 00:14:10,630 of this. 305 00:14:10,660 --> 00:14:11,650 Like the worst. 306 00:14:11,650 --> 00:14:16,300 I actually remember thinking that in my first year or two 307 00:14:16,300 --> 00:14:19,300 of business when things were really tight and I was just 308 00:14:19,300 --> 00:14:20,740 getting things off the ground. 309 00:14:20,740 --> 00:14:23,740 It took me a year to go back to the timeline. 310 00:14:23,740 --> 00:14:26,950 It took me a year to find my footing and to 311 00:14:26,950 --> 00:14:29,830 really find what my business was going to be. 312 00:14:30,000 --> 00:14:33,540 And I remembered thinking in that first year or two you're 313 00:14:33,540 --> 00:14:34,650 not going to die. 314 00:14:34,830 --> 00:14:37,680 Like that would be the worst case scenario. 315 00:14:37,710 --> 00:14:39,930 And so if that's not going to happen, 316 00:14:39,960 --> 00:14:41,700 then the stakes are low. 317 00:14:41,910 --> 00:14:42,990 It will be okay. 318 00:14:43,470 --> 00:14:43,930 Right. Well, 319 00:14:43,930 --> 00:14:46,180 and there's also the point that you're not going to land 320 00:14:46,180 --> 00:14:47,020 it necessarily. 321 00:14:47,020 --> 00:14:48,850 The very first thing that you try, 322 00:14:48,880 --> 00:14:49,780 you get out there, 323 00:14:49,780 --> 00:14:50,530 you take action, 324 00:14:50,530 --> 00:14:53,590 then you tweak a little bit and eventually you get to 325 00:14:53,590 --> 00:14:56,140 a path that you know you start to get traction and 326 00:14:56,140 --> 00:14:59,080 it feels solid and then you can start really taking off. 327 00:14:59,650 --> 00:15:01,300 I do have a question for you, 328 00:15:01,300 --> 00:15:03,700 and this is more just curiosity so we don't have to 329 00:15:03,700 --> 00:15:05,110 spend a lot of time on this, 330 00:15:05,110 --> 00:15:10,490 but back in your editorial director days was what you did 331 00:15:10,490 --> 00:15:14,930 successful if you got placements for your client or did they 332 00:15:14,930 --> 00:15:19,100 need to then also sell or do something that was more 333 00:15:19,100 --> 00:15:21,980 tangible and monetized within their business? 334 00:15:22,230 --> 00:15:25,080 Our success was reflected in the placements that we got. 335 00:15:25,250 --> 00:15:29,450 They knew coming to us that they were going to get 336 00:15:29,540 --> 00:15:33,740 placed on local television across the country and local radio. 337 00:15:33,740 --> 00:15:38,230 That was the goal and it really is a publicity effort 338 00:15:38,230 --> 00:15:40,840 and I think that you and I will dive maybe more 339 00:15:40,840 --> 00:15:45,100 deeply into the benefits of television and radio specifically, 340 00:15:45,130 --> 00:15:46,810 but for most businesses, 341 00:15:46,810 --> 00:15:50,770 television and radio is really a visibility effort. 342 00:15:51,110 --> 00:15:55,850 It definitely could be defined by an assessment of return on 343 00:15:55,850 --> 00:16:00,230 investment because you can quantify a television placement, 344 00:16:00,230 --> 00:16:02,840 a three to five minute interview with what it would cost 345 00:16:02,840 --> 00:16:04,070 to buy ad time there. 346 00:16:04,240 --> 00:16:07,120 And so that would be like the return on investment. 347 00:16:07,120 --> 00:16:11,950 But it's actually really hard to quantify sales from television and 348 00:16:11,950 --> 00:16:16,270 radio in particular unless you're going to ask your customers where 349 00:16:16,300 --> 00:16:17,140 they heard from you. 350 00:16:17,140 --> 00:16:18,670 And on the large scale, 351 00:16:18,670 --> 00:16:23,380 like our clients were pharmaceutical companies and consumer products like Johnson 352 00:16:23,380 --> 00:16:25,690 and Johnson and Brawny and things like that, 353 00:16:25,880 --> 00:16:29,300 they're not asking their customers where they heard of them, 354 00:16:29,510 --> 00:16:34,120 so they weren't going to necessarily be able to track sales. 355 00:16:34,350 --> 00:16:36,870 When we're talking to gifters bakers, 356 00:16:36,930 --> 00:16:38,220 crafters makers though, 357 00:16:38,250 --> 00:16:39,450 it's much smaller scale. 358 00:16:39,450 --> 00:16:42,570 So we would be able to track return on investment in 359 00:16:42,570 --> 00:16:44,490 quantifiable sales probably. 360 00:16:44,780 --> 00:16:45,530 Right. But it's, 361 00:16:45,650 --> 00:16:49,130 I don't want to say a secondary result of placement. 362 00:16:49,160 --> 00:16:50,570 Maybe you could say it that way, 363 00:16:50,570 --> 00:16:53,180 but it's part of a whole marketing strategy. 364 00:16:53,600 --> 00:16:55,400 One element of the mix I guess. 365 00:16:55,560 --> 00:16:58,500 Yup. And you can really see that very much so when 366 00:16:58,500 --> 00:17:02,370 you're looking at those massive companies that are doing many different 367 00:17:02,370 --> 00:17:05,040 things in order to get the word out and get their 368 00:17:05,040 --> 00:17:07,440 product into the hands of their consumer. 369 00:17:07,620 --> 00:17:10,680 We just need to do it on a much pared down 370 00:17:10,710 --> 00:17:12,870 level, but we still need to be doing a lot of 371 00:17:12,870 --> 00:17:13,680 different things. 372 00:17:13,880 --> 00:17:15,380 Right. While you were doing that, 373 00:17:15,440 --> 00:17:16,340 at the same time, 374 00:17:16,340 --> 00:17:18,650 I was doing very highly targeted, 375 00:17:18,650 --> 00:17:23,510 direct mail marketing campaigns to similar clients you just talked about, 376 00:17:23,510 --> 00:17:24,800 so that's really interesting. 377 00:17:24,860 --> 00:17:25,880 So Proctor and gamble, 378 00:17:25,880 --> 00:17:26,750 you know all of that. 379 00:17:27,070 --> 00:17:28,030 Oh, interesting. 380 00:17:28,260 --> 00:17:32,370 Yeah. Let's start talking a little bit about what we really 381 00:17:32,370 --> 00:17:33,360 came here to talk about, 382 00:17:33,360 --> 00:17:36,420 which was getting visibility in that manner and you do know 383 00:17:36,420 --> 00:17:38,220 visibility is my word this year. 384 00:17:38,280 --> 00:17:39,790 Amanda, I know. 385 00:17:39,790 --> 00:17:43,010 So And give biz listeners, 386 00:17:43,010 --> 00:17:45,590 we've been starting to talk about what your word is if 387 00:17:45,590 --> 00:17:47,030 you're following me on social media. 388 00:17:47,030 --> 00:17:49,200 So a lot of you are acquainted with what we're talking 389 00:17:49,200 --> 00:17:49,890 about here, 390 00:17:49,920 --> 00:17:52,800 but I want to start by saying that I think a 391 00:17:52,800 --> 00:17:55,230 lot of us who are following the trends, 392 00:17:55,230 --> 00:17:57,750 listening to everything that's going on, 393 00:17:57,750 --> 00:18:02,640 have gotten sucked into the all powerful social media edge, 394 00:18:02,700 --> 00:18:06,330 Facebook live and posting and all of that, 395 00:18:06,360 --> 00:18:07,800 which I'm not discounting. 396 00:18:07,800 --> 00:18:09,390 It definitely has its place, 397 00:18:09,420 --> 00:18:12,810 but I think what has happened is we've forgotten about traditional 398 00:18:12,810 --> 00:18:13,920 media a little bit. 399 00:18:13,950 --> 00:18:17,640 So I'd like to start with why is traditional media still 400 00:18:17,640 --> 00:18:20,970 important with all the other options that are available now? 401 00:18:21,340 --> 00:18:22,450 It is so, 402 00:18:22,450 --> 00:18:23,290 so, so, 403 00:18:23,320 --> 00:18:28,540 so, so important because social media allows you to talk to 404 00:18:28,540 --> 00:18:29,920 your existing audience. 405 00:18:30,170 --> 00:18:35,210 A traditional media or even new media like podcasts and online 406 00:18:35,210 --> 00:18:39,950 media allows you to leverage audiences that other people have cultivated 407 00:18:39,950 --> 00:18:43,310 so you can bust out of that word of mouth bubble 408 00:18:43,310 --> 00:18:46,310 of the audience that you've already created. 409 00:18:46,310 --> 00:18:49,820 You're getting out of the echo chamber of your audience and 410 00:18:49,820 --> 00:18:52,850 reaching new people by utilizing the media. 411 00:18:53,070 --> 00:18:57,660 That's one contrast between social media and regular media. 412 00:18:57,850 --> 00:19:00,250 The other thing is that media, 413 00:19:00,250 --> 00:19:05,560 when your customer sees like you have the initial exposure and 414 00:19:05,560 --> 00:19:09,790 the initial woo lightning strike of being featured, 415 00:19:09,790 --> 00:19:10,930 of being interviewed, 416 00:19:10,930 --> 00:19:12,970 being written up somewhere, 417 00:19:13,000 --> 00:19:18,970 there's an immediate result or catalyst that mobilizes customers based off 418 00:19:18,970 --> 00:19:19,600 of that, 419 00:19:19,750 --> 00:19:25,120 but then when people see that you've been featured in media 420 00:19:25,120 --> 00:19:26,320 that they trust, 421 00:19:26,320 --> 00:19:30,110 whether it's a podcast or a magazine or a local news 422 00:19:30,110 --> 00:19:31,190 station or something, 423 00:19:31,350 --> 00:19:33,990 when they go to your website because they've heard of you 424 00:19:33,990 --> 00:19:37,260 somewhere or they saw your social media posts, 425 00:19:37,290 --> 00:19:39,390 they go to your website and they see you've been featured 426 00:19:39,390 --> 00:19:40,490 on all of these places. 427 00:19:40,720 --> 00:19:47,080 It really establishes trust and it inspires credibility and inspires them 428 00:19:47,080 --> 00:19:50,380 to really believe that you've got the goods that you're endorsed 429 00:19:50,560 --> 00:19:54,730 and the media is really the only way that the consumer 430 00:19:54,730 --> 00:19:58,690 is going to come to that place of trusting you because 431 00:19:58,720 --> 00:20:00,610 they trust that media outlet. 432 00:20:00,640 --> 00:20:02,110 The trust is transferred. 433 00:20:02,480 --> 00:20:02,960 Got it. 434 00:20:02,990 --> 00:20:05,240 Would you suggest then that it shortens the sale? 435 00:20:05,720 --> 00:20:07,160 That was the other part that I was going to say. 436 00:20:07,250 --> 00:20:10,550 It's a really is a fast track to that trust factor 437 00:20:10,580 --> 00:20:11,780 because again, 438 00:20:11,810 --> 00:20:13,700 they trust the media outlet. 439 00:20:13,700 --> 00:20:17,870 They trust the podcast or that has introduced them to you, 440 00:20:17,990 --> 00:20:19,580 especially with podcasts. 441 00:20:19,580 --> 00:20:22,910 I'll just like do a tiny tangent about podcasts for a 442 00:20:22,910 --> 00:20:25,610 second. The audiences that listen to podcasts, 443 00:20:25,610 --> 00:20:28,400 obviously you're listening to this podcast. 444 00:20:28,540 --> 00:20:31,480 The audiences that listen to podcasts are really loyal and they 445 00:20:31,480 --> 00:20:36,760 trust their podcast or to introduce them to people and ideas 446 00:20:36,790 --> 00:20:40,840 that are relevant to them and that are high quality. 447 00:20:40,990 --> 00:20:45,250 So that trust transfer is really evident when you're talking about 448 00:20:45,250 --> 00:20:48,140 podcasts, but shortening the sale? 449 00:20:48,200 --> 00:20:52,100 Absolutely, because we've really believe in the media. 450 00:20:52,100 --> 00:20:55,370 We really believe if a product is featured in the media, 451 00:20:55,370 --> 00:20:57,110 if a person is featured in the media, 452 00:20:57,110 --> 00:21:01,430 we trust that we trust that they have earned that opportunity 453 00:21:01,600 --> 00:21:04,900 and that they are worth that feature or that interview. 454 00:21:05,140 --> 00:21:07,810 So some of our listeners are just starting out. 455 00:21:07,900 --> 00:21:09,010 They might have a product, 456 00:21:09,010 --> 00:21:11,440 they're just going to craft shows and some of course are 457 00:21:11,440 --> 00:21:12,310 more established. 458 00:21:12,310 --> 00:21:14,020 Maybe they have multi location, 459 00:21:14,020 --> 00:21:15,190 brick and mortar shops, 460 00:21:15,190 --> 00:21:18,280 or very solid online presence. 461 00:21:18,480 --> 00:21:21,570 Is there a certain point in your business development where you 462 00:21:21,570 --> 00:21:25,200 could start engaging traditional PR for visibility? 463 00:21:25,590 --> 00:21:28,740 Yeah, I think you can start as soon as you have 464 00:21:28,800 --> 00:21:30,330 an established business, 465 00:21:30,330 --> 00:21:33,420 so I don't think you need to have a certain level 466 00:21:33,420 --> 00:21:37,890 of revenue or a certain number of locations or a certain 467 00:21:37,890 --> 00:21:39,660 number of sales or anything. 468 00:21:39,660 --> 00:21:42,570 I think you can start as soon as you have your 469 00:21:42,570 --> 00:21:46,800 idea and infrastructure in place and I would say one of 470 00:21:46,800 --> 00:21:50,520 the great places to start for your audience in particular, 471 00:21:50,520 --> 00:21:51,570 gifters bakers, 472 00:21:51,660 --> 00:21:52,470 crafters makers, 473 00:21:52,600 --> 00:21:56,050 whether they are just starting out or they have multiple brick 474 00:21:56,050 --> 00:21:59,590 and mortar locations would be with local media. 475 00:21:59,820 --> 00:22:03,150 And I would say there's a scale in terms of where 476 00:22:03,150 --> 00:22:04,710 you are in this journey. 477 00:22:04,850 --> 00:22:06,110 If you're just starting out, 478 00:22:06,110 --> 00:22:09,500 I would say that maybe a feature in your local community 479 00:22:09,500 --> 00:22:13,790 magazine might be something that would be a good showcase for 480 00:22:13,790 --> 00:22:16,620 you if you have a product or a multiple brick and 481 00:22:16,620 --> 00:22:17,520 mortar locations. 482 00:22:17,550 --> 00:22:20,850 I would say you are an established business and you were 483 00:22:20,880 --> 00:22:23,560 making an impact in the community and you could be on 484 00:22:23,560 --> 00:22:27,580 your local television station doing a quick segment about something relevant 485 00:22:27,580 --> 00:22:28,330 to your business. 486 00:22:28,540 --> 00:22:29,710 So I think that, 487 00:22:29,770 --> 00:22:30,070 I don't know. 488 00:22:30,070 --> 00:22:32,410 Those are the two ideas that come to mind for me 489 00:22:32,410 --> 00:22:35,170 in terms of where this community can begin. 490 00:22:35,570 --> 00:22:37,160 Okay. And I'm almost thinking too, 491 00:22:37,160 --> 00:22:38,330 and I know I'm an old, 492 00:22:38,330 --> 00:22:40,700 let you really talk about this in detail, 493 00:22:40,700 --> 00:22:42,230 but a grand opening, 494 00:22:42,230 --> 00:22:45,170 someone who's a local business owner or has been a local 495 00:22:45,170 --> 00:22:48,110 residents of a community and now starting a business of their 496 00:22:48,110 --> 00:22:50,990 own could be a great story also for local. 497 00:22:50,990 --> 00:22:53,720 So even just getting started could be good. 498 00:22:54,000 --> 00:22:57,030 Absolutely. And also I'll just note that that's news. 499 00:22:57,220 --> 00:22:59,560 When you say grand opening or something, 500 00:22:59,560 --> 00:23:00,880 that's time sensitive like that, 501 00:23:00,880 --> 00:23:01,870 that is news. 502 00:23:02,090 --> 00:23:03,380 But we don't think of it that way. 503 00:23:03,380 --> 00:23:03,560 You know, 504 00:23:03,560 --> 00:23:05,990 you're so busy with everything else that's going on with that 505 00:23:05,990 --> 00:23:06,990 event. All right. 506 00:23:06,990 --> 00:23:09,510 So there's lots of businesses out there, 507 00:23:09,510 --> 00:23:13,620 there's lots of people doing great things and I think we've 508 00:23:13,620 --> 00:23:16,740 always kind of felt like the media should come to us. 509 00:23:16,950 --> 00:23:20,160 So let's talk through that fallacy, 510 00:23:20,160 --> 00:23:21,480 that thinking. 511 00:23:21,510 --> 00:23:22,920 What would you say to all of that? 512 00:23:23,210 --> 00:23:25,130 Absolutely. That is a common, 513 00:23:25,250 --> 00:23:26,480 I don't want to say misconception. 514 00:23:26,480 --> 00:23:29,600 I think it's a common road we go down that really 515 00:23:29,600 --> 00:23:33,800 keeps us safe from putting ourselves out there and being vulnerable 516 00:23:33,800 --> 00:23:38,210 because this whole effort of being visible is very vulnerable. 517 00:23:38,210 --> 00:23:39,500 And just to reiterate, 518 00:23:39,590 --> 00:23:41,810 I want to remind you the stakes are very low. 519 00:23:42,920 --> 00:23:45,980 I love that no one is going to and like yell 520 00:23:45,980 --> 00:23:48,620 at you or embarrass you or anything. 521 00:23:48,620 --> 00:23:50,930 But the fact is it is vulnerable. 522 00:23:51,070 --> 00:23:55,660 So believing that the media has to come to you is, 523 00:23:55,690 --> 00:23:56,860 it would be nice, 524 00:23:56,890 --> 00:23:58,900 right? It would be so nice. 525 00:23:59,170 --> 00:24:00,460 And it happens sometimes, 526 00:24:00,460 --> 00:24:01,300 right? Of course, 527 00:24:01,300 --> 00:24:01,870 of course, 528 00:24:01,870 --> 00:24:02,920 yeah. That's wonderful. 529 00:24:02,920 --> 00:24:07,450 And that's called reactive PR where you respond to inquiries and 530 00:24:07,450 --> 00:24:10,270 you take advantage of opportunities that are offered to you and 531 00:24:10,270 --> 00:24:13,810 that's absolutely a valid way and should be a part of 532 00:24:13,810 --> 00:24:15,880 your always part of your effort. 533 00:24:15,880 --> 00:24:16,840 You should have a wave, 534 00:24:16,870 --> 00:24:20,100 a method for fielding those kinds of inquiries when it comes 535 00:24:20,100 --> 00:24:24,750 to the reality is that that could and very well may 536 00:24:24,750 --> 00:24:26,340 happen to many of us, 537 00:24:26,540 --> 00:24:29,120 but the fact is you want to, 538 00:24:29,270 --> 00:24:32,600 I think that we really want to take control of this 539 00:24:32,600 --> 00:24:35,600 effort. We want to be featured in the places that are 540 00:24:35,600 --> 00:24:38,720 going to cast us in the best possible light that are 541 00:24:38,720 --> 00:24:42,870 going to put us in front of the correct audience and 542 00:24:42,900 --> 00:24:46,320 that are going to make the biggest impact on our business. 543 00:24:46,320 --> 00:24:50,490 And the only way for us to really target that media 544 00:24:50,490 --> 00:24:53,960 and be strategic about it is to be proactive and to 545 00:24:54,020 --> 00:24:57,420 actually get out there and make the ask Ourselves. 546 00:24:57,840 --> 00:25:00,990 Okay. That makes total sense because we know best the type 547 00:25:00,990 --> 00:25:03,900 of customer we already have and where we're feeling, 548 00:25:03,960 --> 00:25:05,580 especially within our local communities, 549 00:25:05,800 --> 00:25:09,160 what the placements should be that will best serve us. 550 00:25:09,330 --> 00:25:10,650 So then the big question, 551 00:25:10,650 --> 00:25:11,280 it's just one, 552 00:25:11,280 --> 00:25:12,330 three letter word. 553 00:25:12,660 --> 00:25:15,400 How Right. 554 00:25:15,430 --> 00:25:17,290 Well, so for someone starting out, 555 00:25:17,290 --> 00:25:20,230 I think the biggest thing to remember is that you have 556 00:25:20,230 --> 00:25:21,280 to create a story. 557 00:25:21,280 --> 00:25:24,040 Like I was saying before with my journey and the work 558 00:25:24,040 --> 00:25:25,870 that I did in the corporate world and the work that 559 00:25:25,870 --> 00:25:28,990 I still do with my clients is that we create a 560 00:25:28,990 --> 00:25:35,020 story that's going to ignite the imagination of the decision maker 561 00:25:35,020 --> 00:25:37,750 on the other end of that email or that phone call 562 00:25:37,940 --> 00:25:42,620 and really show them that you have something that's really interesting, 563 00:25:42,620 --> 00:25:46,750 unique and insightful to offer to their audience and it may 564 00:25:46,750 --> 00:25:48,850 be centered around a product, 565 00:25:48,940 --> 00:25:52,870 but the idea is that you really want to showcase your 566 00:25:52,870 --> 00:25:57,940 product in a way that is showing that it's something innovative. 567 00:25:57,970 --> 00:26:02,170 It's going to help the audience do something more easily or 568 00:26:02,170 --> 00:26:06,040 more quickly or for less money or something like that. 569 00:26:06,280 --> 00:26:09,940 The other kind of story is the story of you and 570 00:26:09,940 --> 00:26:12,460 your journey to create this which Sue, 571 00:26:12,460 --> 00:26:17,290 I know that you talk to some really inspiring entrepreneurs and 572 00:26:17,320 --> 00:26:18,370 gifters bakers, 573 00:26:18,460 --> 00:26:21,340 crafters and makers in your community and every one of these 574 00:26:21,340 --> 00:26:23,290 stories is so amazing. 575 00:26:23,450 --> 00:26:24,680 They're fascinating. 576 00:26:24,720 --> 00:26:26,370 Yeah, absolutely. 577 00:26:26,370 --> 00:26:27,930 I want to see them in print. 578 00:26:27,930 --> 00:26:29,310 I want to hear them interviewed. 579 00:26:29,310 --> 00:26:32,910 I want to see them showcased in their local media market, 580 00:26:32,940 --> 00:26:34,320 doing a kind of like, 581 00:26:34,320 --> 00:26:37,560 here's a business owner from our community who's doing something new 582 00:26:37,560 --> 00:26:41,160 and innovative or interesting or and supporting the community, 583 00:26:41,160 --> 00:26:42,330 supporting their family. 584 00:26:42,510 --> 00:26:44,520 This is a valid story idea, 585 00:26:44,550 --> 00:26:49,710 particularly for local media and for podcasts as your journey story. 586 00:26:49,850 --> 00:26:53,120 So the first thing to do is figure out what your 587 00:26:53,120 --> 00:26:54,230 stories are. 588 00:26:54,410 --> 00:26:57,440 Okay, so that's perfect because a story is not, 589 00:26:57,500 --> 00:26:59,720 I have a new product and it's on sale for this 590 00:26:59,720 --> 00:27:02,700 price. That may be a story for you, 591 00:27:02,730 --> 00:27:05,130 but it's not a story for media for sure. 592 00:27:05,310 --> 00:27:07,200 Right. So you are saying, 593 00:27:07,200 --> 00:27:10,020 if I can summarize again just to make sure we're driving 594 00:27:10,020 --> 00:27:10,320 it down. 595 00:27:10,320 --> 00:27:13,110 The point is if you're focusing on a product, 596 00:27:13,110 --> 00:27:17,010 there has to be a deeper interest level for why people 597 00:27:17,010 --> 00:27:20,820 who are watching that show reading the paper or whatever it 598 00:27:20,820 --> 00:27:24,780 is, how it could integrate in and be useful to whoever 599 00:27:24,780 --> 00:27:26,070 the audience is. 600 00:27:26,130 --> 00:27:27,240 Yeah, absolutely. 601 00:27:27,390 --> 00:27:29,850 So that would be one way or how would unique or 602 00:27:29,850 --> 00:27:33,390 different, or maybe there's a super fun story about the product 603 00:27:33,390 --> 00:27:35,310 and a customer who used it or something, 604 00:27:35,480 --> 00:27:37,250 but there has to be some story. 605 00:27:37,640 --> 00:27:40,640 Exactly. And then also one of the stories could be you. 606 00:27:40,960 --> 00:27:42,220 Yup, absolutely. 607 00:27:42,220 --> 00:27:44,440 And I'll also add in there the story of the product 608 00:27:44,440 --> 00:27:47,590 could also be about a trend and how your product is 609 00:27:47,590 --> 00:27:51,220 at the forefront of a trend that they haven't reported on 610 00:27:51,220 --> 00:27:52,510 yet or something like that. 611 00:27:52,880 --> 00:27:53,360 Got it. 612 00:27:53,420 --> 00:27:54,560 Okay. Wonderful. 613 00:27:54,560 --> 00:27:57,920 Perfect. Or it's something useful that could apply to a certain 614 00:27:57,950 --> 00:27:58,820 time of the year, 615 00:27:58,820 --> 00:27:59,690 for example. 616 00:27:59,850 --> 00:28:00,870 Yup, exactly. 617 00:28:01,110 --> 00:28:04,770 Like maybe you have a tax filing system or your product 618 00:28:04,770 --> 00:28:07,770 can be used for that type of thing as you're coming 619 00:28:07,770 --> 00:28:08,430 into taxes, 620 00:28:08,430 --> 00:28:09,030 something like that. 621 00:28:09,030 --> 00:28:10,410 But there's gotta be an angle. 622 00:28:10,500 --> 00:28:12,810 Right? That's a big word in the Indus PR industry. 623 00:28:12,810 --> 00:28:13,620 Right angle. 624 00:28:13,820 --> 00:28:15,140 Yup. Exactly. 625 00:28:15,200 --> 00:28:16,160 You're very savvy, 626 00:28:16,160 --> 00:28:17,150 Sue. Well, 627 00:28:17,150 --> 00:28:17,480 I don't know. 628 00:28:17,480 --> 00:28:18,470 I'm trying hard. 629 00:28:20,390 --> 00:28:23,060 Okay, so first thing we have to do is figure out 630 00:28:23,090 --> 00:28:25,490 that what the story or the angle is. 631 00:28:26,000 --> 00:28:27,740 Right? Exactly. 632 00:28:27,980 --> 00:28:30,280 So then what do we do Then? 633 00:28:30,640 --> 00:28:35,050 I would suggest that you start to make your list of 634 00:28:35,050 --> 00:28:36,850 media where you want to be featured. 635 00:28:36,850 --> 00:28:39,940 And this is another huge question that often comes up with 636 00:28:39,940 --> 00:28:40,720 my clients is like, 637 00:28:40,750 --> 00:28:44,260 okay, where like I have no idea where to begin and 638 00:28:44,320 --> 00:28:47,920 it's actually much easier than you might think. 639 00:28:48,110 --> 00:28:51,590 There's a couple of key ways to start researching your media 640 00:28:51,590 --> 00:28:55,190 opportunities. And the first I would say would be, 641 00:28:55,190 --> 00:28:56,960 especially for this community, 642 00:28:57,020 --> 00:28:59,930 it would be to look at your local media opportunities. 643 00:28:59,930 --> 00:29:04,400 So what local television stations do segments with local business owners, 644 00:29:04,630 --> 00:29:08,550 what local magazines do features on local business owners? 645 00:29:08,760 --> 00:29:14,370 What local radio stations have some kind of a segment that 646 00:29:14,370 --> 00:29:15,630 you could contribute to? 647 00:29:15,860 --> 00:29:17,300 So look at your local media. 648 00:29:17,330 --> 00:29:22,130 Then I would also suggest looking at your own media habits. 649 00:29:22,130 --> 00:29:24,020 What do you love to listen to? 650 00:29:24,020 --> 00:29:27,620 Where do you get your information and write down all of 651 00:29:27,620 --> 00:29:31,580 those outlets and then finally look at people who are a 652 00:29:31,580 --> 00:29:34,740 little bit further down the road then you and see where 653 00:29:34,740 --> 00:29:35,880 they've been featured, 654 00:29:35,880 --> 00:29:38,820 where have they been able to place a story or tell 655 00:29:38,820 --> 00:29:43,990 their story or offer their and write down those media outlets. 656 00:29:43,990 --> 00:29:48,040 And I offer templates and materials to do all of this 657 00:29:48,070 --> 00:29:49,120 with my clients, 658 00:29:49,120 --> 00:29:51,940 but I have a lot of free resources on my website 659 00:29:51,940 --> 00:29:54,490 too, including templates and things like that. 660 00:29:54,690 --> 00:29:55,500 Oh, perfect. 661 00:29:55,500 --> 00:29:57,840 So tell us your website since we're talking about it right 662 00:29:57,840 --> 00:29:58,290 this minute. 663 00:29:58,530 --> 00:30:00,600 It's Amanda berlin.com 664 00:30:00,840 --> 00:30:02,550 and if anyone listening, 665 00:30:02,580 --> 00:30:06,080 I actually don't have a free download of the media list 666 00:30:06,080 --> 00:30:08,970 template. That is something that I give to my clients when 667 00:30:08,970 --> 00:30:09,720 they start working with me. 668 00:30:09,720 --> 00:30:11,160 But I will give you one, 669 00:30:11,220 --> 00:30:12,420 I'll give you a link to it. 670 00:30:12,420 --> 00:30:13,050 If you want it, 671 00:30:13,080 --> 00:30:14,580 email me and ask me for it. 672 00:30:14,580 --> 00:30:16,940 amanda@amandaberlin.com Oh, 673 00:30:16,940 --> 00:30:17,600 that's so nice. 674 00:30:17,600 --> 00:30:18,410 Thank you Amanda. 675 00:30:18,530 --> 00:30:19,430 I appreciate that. 676 00:30:19,630 --> 00:30:21,910 Sure. I think what I've gotten out of what you just 677 00:30:21,910 --> 00:30:26,410 talked about is that once you're researching who's even there, 678 00:30:26,440 --> 00:30:29,350 like who's available for you even as potential, 679 00:30:29,380 --> 00:30:31,480 then you want to see how they run their shows and 680 00:30:31,480 --> 00:30:35,080 see if what you would be offering slips into the natural 681 00:30:35,110 --> 00:30:36,610 themes of their show. 682 00:30:36,910 --> 00:30:41,020 Exactly. If they don't do local interviews or product highlights or 683 00:30:41,020 --> 00:30:41,950 something like that, 684 00:30:42,010 --> 00:30:44,350 it's all straight 100% news. 685 00:30:44,410 --> 00:30:46,300 You probably want to look for something else. 686 00:30:46,500 --> 00:30:48,090 Yup. That's a really good point. 687 00:30:48,090 --> 00:30:51,750 You want to look for formats that will be conducive to 688 00:30:51,750 --> 00:30:54,000 you offering your story idea, 689 00:30:54,190 --> 00:30:57,640 but the other way to go about it too is let's 690 00:30:57,640 --> 00:31:00,760 say you find a media outlet that seems like it would 691 00:31:00,760 --> 00:31:01,900 be a great fit for you, 692 00:31:01,900 --> 00:31:05,380 but your story idea maybe isn't exactly right. 693 00:31:05,410 --> 00:31:07,750 Try to figure out how you could contribute. 694 00:31:08,020 --> 00:31:09,460 I often tell my clients, 695 00:31:09,490 --> 00:31:10,240 ask yourself, 696 00:31:10,270 --> 00:31:13,300 what does this audience need to hear from me? 697 00:31:13,300 --> 00:31:15,160 What can I teach to this audience? 698 00:31:15,160 --> 00:31:16,120 Something like that. 699 00:31:16,380 --> 00:31:17,280 That makes sense. 700 00:31:17,710 --> 00:31:20,620 Yeah. You don't have to PEM yourself in by those two 701 00:31:20,620 --> 00:31:22,870 story ideas or story angles. 702 00:31:22,870 --> 00:31:26,710 You can always create new story angles as long as it 703 00:31:26,710 --> 00:31:28,540 feels like it's serving your goal, 704 00:31:28,940 --> 00:31:30,080 Right? Your goal. 705 00:31:30,080 --> 00:31:33,410 But really it's your goal and what you have that you 706 00:31:33,410 --> 00:31:34,130 can provide. 707 00:31:34,130 --> 00:31:37,940 But in the end it's all the value to their audience, 708 00:31:38,750 --> 00:31:39,940 right? So that's the wave. 709 00:31:39,940 --> 00:31:40,850 You got to circle it back, 710 00:31:40,850 --> 00:31:41,660 I guess to look at that. 711 00:31:41,690 --> 00:31:42,680 Okay, so guess what? 712 00:31:42,710 --> 00:31:45,800 We have three places that we think could be really good 713 00:31:45,800 --> 00:31:47,750 opportunities. We know the story, 714 00:31:48,050 --> 00:31:49,250 we know the fit, 715 00:31:49,430 --> 00:31:50,750 but now we're stuck now. 716 00:31:52,590 --> 00:31:56,460 So what I suggest is kind of warming up the contact, 717 00:31:56,460 --> 00:31:57,450 warming up the lead. 718 00:31:57,450 --> 00:32:02,040 So I would reach out to the decision maker. 719 00:32:02,150 --> 00:32:03,800 That may be the podcaster, 720 00:32:03,800 --> 00:32:06,290 it may be the editor of a particular section of a 721 00:32:06,290 --> 00:32:10,110 magazine, it may be a TV news producer, 722 00:32:10,110 --> 00:32:12,570 it may be a radio producer. 723 00:32:12,770 --> 00:32:16,550 Reach out to the contact and just give them a Pat 724 00:32:16,550 --> 00:32:19,610 on the back or high five virtual high five for the 725 00:32:19,610 --> 00:32:22,400 work that they're doing that resonates with you. 726 00:32:22,400 --> 00:32:23,750 So in a very genuine, 727 00:32:23,750 --> 00:32:24,530 honest way, 728 00:32:24,720 --> 00:32:28,410 I would love to see my clients reaching out and saying, 729 00:32:28,500 --> 00:32:30,780 thank you so much for your segment. 730 00:32:30,810 --> 00:32:31,980 On XYZ. 731 00:32:32,180 --> 00:32:33,500 I thought it was really helpful. 732 00:32:33,500 --> 00:32:37,560 It resonated with me because of ABC and keep up the 733 00:32:37,560 --> 00:32:38,040 good work. 734 00:32:38,160 --> 00:32:39,000 Something like that. 735 00:32:39,220 --> 00:32:40,300 Very simple, 736 00:32:40,330 --> 00:32:44,140 straightforward. I call it the unasked ask where you're just kind 737 00:32:44,140 --> 00:32:48,160 of putting something out there that is good will but also 738 00:32:48,190 --> 00:32:52,810 may start a conversation and may also eventually lead to some 739 00:32:52,810 --> 00:32:57,190 name recognition if you reach out again with an actual pitch. 740 00:32:57,380 --> 00:32:59,600 So that would be the first thing that I would suggest 741 00:32:59,600 --> 00:33:04,220 and I really think that the most personal media is podcasts, 742 00:33:04,280 --> 00:33:06,110 and I know that as a podcast or, 743 00:33:06,110 --> 00:33:07,070 and I'm sure Sue, 744 00:33:07,070 --> 00:33:07,670 you would agree, 745 00:33:07,860 --> 00:33:09,390 when you get an email from a listener, 746 00:33:09,390 --> 00:33:09,750 it's like, 747 00:33:09,840 --> 00:33:10,500 thank you. 748 00:33:11,440 --> 00:33:12,250 That's all awesome. 749 00:33:12,460 --> 00:33:13,480 It never gets old, 750 00:33:13,510 --> 00:33:16,960 but you don't think that media people have been pitched so 751 00:33:16,960 --> 00:33:19,780 much that they'll see this for what it is? 752 00:33:20,100 --> 00:33:22,050 No, I don't think so because I really do want it 753 00:33:22,050 --> 00:33:23,130 to be genuine. 754 00:33:23,130 --> 00:33:27,240 I really want anyone who adopt this strategy to reach out 755 00:33:27,240 --> 00:33:30,210 in a real genuine way because you actually really do have 756 00:33:30,210 --> 00:33:33,600 to be a fan of the media that you're pitching because 757 00:33:33,630 --> 00:33:36,090 you need to have consumed it first of all, 758 00:33:36,090 --> 00:33:39,600 in order to know what kind of idea you can offer 759 00:33:39,600 --> 00:33:42,360 that will be resonant with their audience. 760 00:33:42,550 --> 00:33:46,840 So you've already been a consumer of that media and I 761 00:33:46,840 --> 00:33:48,700 want you to get really excited about it, 762 00:33:48,880 --> 00:33:53,440 get excited about the opportunity or the possibility that you could 763 00:33:53,470 --> 00:33:54,460 contribute there. 764 00:33:54,460 --> 00:33:58,420 So I just really do want that to feel super genuine 765 00:33:58,630 --> 00:34:01,390 and not like smarmy in any way. 766 00:34:01,650 --> 00:34:03,540 Right. And I think there's something else that you and I 767 00:34:03,540 --> 00:34:04,920 have talked about a little bit too, 768 00:34:04,920 --> 00:34:05,730 and that is, 769 00:34:05,790 --> 00:34:08,640 it's really a two way street because they also need to 770 00:34:08,640 --> 00:34:10,170 find things to feature. 771 00:34:10,570 --> 00:34:13,520 Exactly. So if you can slip in and make it easier 772 00:34:13,520 --> 00:34:14,240 for them, 773 00:34:14,330 --> 00:34:15,200 that would be great. 774 00:34:15,570 --> 00:34:17,080 Absolutely. Okay, 775 00:34:17,080 --> 00:34:18,400 so we're warming them up. 776 00:34:18,860 --> 00:34:21,710 Well, obviously that means we've found their email or somehow to 777 00:34:21,710 --> 00:34:22,550 reach out to them, 778 00:34:22,610 --> 00:34:25,970 which gift biz listeners could also be a lot of the 779 00:34:25,970 --> 00:34:27,200 local newspapers. 780 00:34:27,230 --> 00:34:29,270 And even television, 781 00:34:29,270 --> 00:34:29,990 somewhat cable, 782 00:34:29,990 --> 00:34:32,540 but mostly other TV too might be part of your chamber 783 00:34:32,540 --> 00:34:34,940 of commerce or other networking groups that you're in. 784 00:34:34,940 --> 00:34:38,570 So that's another place to source and find the right contact. 785 00:34:39,020 --> 00:34:39,560 Good point. 786 00:34:39,650 --> 00:34:42,260 Yep. So we found out how to reach out to them 787 00:34:42,320 --> 00:34:45,500 and we've warmed them up and then now we're ready to 788 00:34:45,500 --> 00:34:46,730 present an idea, 789 00:34:47,000 --> 00:34:48,350 which is what you call the pitch, 790 00:34:48,350 --> 00:34:49,760 right? Exactly. 791 00:34:49,790 --> 00:34:52,400 Yes. So there's a couple of different ways to go about 792 00:34:52,400 --> 00:34:54,890 it. For the bold among us, 793 00:34:55,040 --> 00:34:57,860 sometimes a phone call is really valuable, 794 00:34:57,890 --> 00:35:00,470 but more so to traditional media. 795 00:35:00,710 --> 00:35:01,910 If you were to say, 796 00:35:01,940 --> 00:35:03,050 can we hop on the phone? 797 00:35:03,050 --> 00:35:05,540 I have some ways I think I could contribute to the 798 00:35:05,540 --> 00:35:08,750 show. Maybe we could talk about it and have some ideas 799 00:35:08,750 --> 00:35:09,800 in your back pocket, 800 00:35:09,830 --> 00:35:13,160 but then also just listen to what they might be looking 801 00:35:13,160 --> 00:35:14,780 for. That's a possibility. 802 00:35:14,780 --> 00:35:18,710 And you also can always call the assignment desk of any 803 00:35:18,740 --> 00:35:22,320 television station and ask for the right person to talk to 804 00:35:22,330 --> 00:35:24,280 once you've identified the show, 805 00:35:24,280 --> 00:35:25,930 that might be the right fit for you. 806 00:35:25,930 --> 00:35:27,250 So you can call and say, 807 00:35:27,280 --> 00:35:28,270 who's the producer? 808 00:35:28,270 --> 00:35:32,200 For good morning Austin or whatever it may be and they 809 00:35:32,200 --> 00:35:33,490 will connect you because again, 810 00:35:33,490 --> 00:35:34,270 like Sue said, 811 00:35:34,330 --> 00:35:35,440 they need you. 812 00:35:36,070 --> 00:35:39,720 They need the to be offering ideas and tips. 813 00:35:39,750 --> 00:35:42,030 They are meant to be talking to you. 814 00:35:42,030 --> 00:35:43,470 That's why there is a phone number. 815 00:35:43,470 --> 00:35:46,770 That's why they sit at the assignment desk because they field 816 00:35:46,950 --> 00:35:51,240 tips and then they assign them to reporters or producers. 817 00:35:51,450 --> 00:35:54,300 So for television station that might be a way to go 818 00:35:54,300 --> 00:35:54,750 about it. 819 00:35:54,920 --> 00:35:57,680 A more traditional way to go about it would be to 820 00:35:57,680 --> 00:35:58,490 write your pitch. 821 00:35:58,520 --> 00:35:58,970 And again, 822 00:35:58,970 --> 00:36:00,890 on my website at the bottom of the homepage, 823 00:36:00,920 --> 00:36:05,720 I have a template download for writing a pitch and really 824 00:36:05,720 --> 00:36:07,010 it's very straightforward. 825 00:36:07,010 --> 00:36:09,590 You want to keep it as simple as possible and a 826 00:36:09,590 --> 00:36:12,470 lot of it also has to do with the subject line. 827 00:36:12,470 --> 00:36:16,760 So I would put interview idea or segment idea or guest 828 00:36:16,760 --> 00:36:20,360 idea or something like that right there in the subject line 829 00:36:20,390 --> 00:36:22,070 with then a headline. 830 00:36:22,070 --> 00:36:24,830 So guest idea how gifters makers, 831 00:36:24,830 --> 00:36:27,890 crafters and makers can publicize their businesses. 832 00:36:28,130 --> 00:36:29,330 That could be potentially, 833 00:36:29,330 --> 00:36:30,290 if I was pitching Sue, 834 00:36:30,290 --> 00:36:31,790 that might be what I would, 835 00:36:31,820 --> 00:36:34,520 maybe a version of what I might put in the subject 836 00:36:34,520 --> 00:36:38,110 line. So start with the great subject line that actually indicates 837 00:36:38,110 --> 00:36:41,290 what it is that they're going to find within the email. 838 00:36:41,290 --> 00:36:44,080 So an idea they're going to find a guest idea or 839 00:36:44,080 --> 00:36:47,250 a segment idea or whatever and then the headline that you 840 00:36:47,250 --> 00:36:50,670 imagine maybe they would even use on the air or in 841 00:36:50,670 --> 00:36:53,250 their podcast episode or something like that. 842 00:36:53,350 --> 00:36:55,360 The idea being that you just want to make it as 843 00:36:55,390 --> 00:36:59,410 easy for them as possible to use your idea and if 844 00:36:59,410 --> 00:37:03,190 they could see it immediately working in the context of their 845 00:37:03,190 --> 00:37:05,980 show, then that's plus one in your column. 846 00:37:06,190 --> 00:37:09,940 So from there you want to again make the connection like 847 00:37:09,970 --> 00:37:13,180 thank you so much for your work on XYZ. 848 00:37:13,370 --> 00:37:15,410 I loved this and this and this. 849 00:37:15,620 --> 00:37:16,970 Thanks for the work that you're doing. 850 00:37:17,130 --> 00:37:19,020 I wanted to see if you would be interested in an 851 00:37:19,020 --> 00:37:22,480 idea on and then you can put your headline and then 852 00:37:22,480 --> 00:37:28,180 you want to distill your segment idea into three T's bullet 853 00:37:28,180 --> 00:37:32,680 points that speak to what you imagine talking about in that 854 00:37:32,680 --> 00:37:34,780 interview. If we're talking about an interview here, 855 00:37:34,920 --> 00:37:38,850 so you would tease the points that you would make save 856 00:37:38,850 --> 00:37:40,470 to come up with your talking points. 857 00:37:40,470 --> 00:37:45,810 It does require some by advanced either research or just jotting 858 00:37:45,810 --> 00:37:49,320 down of ideas so that you have a really fully fleshed 859 00:37:49,350 --> 00:37:52,620 out story ideas because you're going to want to include the 860 00:37:52,620 --> 00:37:55,530 points that you will make in that interview in the pitch. 861 00:37:55,720 --> 00:37:59,890 And then following those bullet points you will put a short 862 00:37:59,890 --> 00:38:01,300 version of your bio. 863 00:38:01,300 --> 00:38:02,140 So again, 864 00:38:02,170 --> 00:38:05,590 writing your media bio is something you can get on my 865 00:38:05,590 --> 00:38:07,240 website in the free resources. 866 00:38:07,240 --> 00:38:10,780 So it's like a three to five line bio that speaks 867 00:38:10,780 --> 00:38:15,370 to why you are perfect to be delivering this segment idea 868 00:38:15,370 --> 00:38:16,600 or this interview idea. 869 00:38:16,840 --> 00:38:20,260 And if you have any other media clips, 870 00:38:20,290 --> 00:38:23,530 be sure to include those in that bio. 871 00:38:23,560 --> 00:38:25,030 Like I've been featured here, 872 00:38:25,030 --> 00:38:25,660 here, and here. 873 00:38:25,660 --> 00:38:27,160 I've talked on this topic here, 874 00:38:27,160 --> 00:38:27,820 here and here. 875 00:38:27,850 --> 00:38:29,560 If you don't have any media clips, 876 00:38:29,590 --> 00:38:31,450 I always say do not worry about it. 877 00:38:31,450 --> 00:38:34,960 I don't want that to be a deterrent to actually doing 878 00:38:35,080 --> 00:38:39,250 outreach. So it's only a must include if you have them 879 00:38:39,610 --> 00:38:40,900 And someone started, 880 00:38:40,930 --> 00:38:45,130 someone who has references now and has been seen places at 881 00:38:45,130 --> 00:38:47,470 one point didn't cause that's why they now have that. 882 00:38:47,620 --> 00:38:49,540 Right. So it's okay. 883 00:38:49,720 --> 00:38:51,130 Exactly. Yup. 884 00:38:51,160 --> 00:38:54,490 So the last thing is just issue a call to action. 885 00:38:54,490 --> 00:38:56,080 So it could be as simple as, 886 00:38:56,110 --> 00:38:58,900 please respond to this email and let me know if you 887 00:38:58,930 --> 00:39:01,060 like this idea or if we can book a time for 888 00:39:01,060 --> 00:39:02,410 an interview or something like that. 889 00:39:02,590 --> 00:39:03,100 And that's it. 890 00:39:03,340 --> 00:39:05,530 What I was thinking as you were going through all of 891 00:39:05,530 --> 00:39:06,490 this is two things. 892 00:39:06,490 --> 00:39:07,150 Number one, 893 00:39:07,150 --> 00:39:10,330 it's pretty concise because if you make an email that's way 894 00:39:10,330 --> 00:39:11,410 super long, 895 00:39:11,560 --> 00:39:12,670 it'll probably get tossed. 896 00:39:12,670 --> 00:39:13,780 No one has time for that. 897 00:39:13,870 --> 00:39:16,660 Yeah. And then also you're doing a lot of the work 898 00:39:16,750 --> 00:39:17,590 early on. 899 00:39:17,590 --> 00:39:19,420 So as things progressed, 900 00:39:19,610 --> 00:39:21,470 it's been established and most likely, 901 00:39:21,470 --> 00:39:22,430 unless they switch it up, 902 00:39:22,430 --> 00:39:23,330 but a lot of the work, 903 00:39:23,330 --> 00:39:26,180 so I'm thinking you're putting in the work early so it's 904 00:39:26,180 --> 00:39:29,480 not time wasted because then it's already done once you get 905 00:39:29,480 --> 00:39:31,160 the booking and you're going for the interview. 906 00:39:31,490 --> 00:39:32,660 Yup, exactly. 907 00:39:32,820 --> 00:39:35,160 We are in a positive mode here, 908 00:39:35,160 --> 00:39:38,070 so we're assuming that everything has gone well. 909 00:39:38,160 --> 00:39:40,860 They get a call back and they're interested, 910 00:39:40,860 --> 00:39:42,060 they're completely interested. 911 00:39:42,060 --> 00:39:43,530 They want to do the interview. 912 00:39:43,820 --> 00:39:46,460 And I'm sure there's steps that have to be taken and 913 00:39:46,460 --> 00:39:49,400 every organization's different in terms of what the procedure is. 914 00:39:49,600 --> 00:39:51,550 But how does someone, 915 00:39:51,580 --> 00:39:54,130 once they're actually going to do the interview, 916 00:39:54,350 --> 00:39:57,290 how do they set themselves up to present themselves in the 917 00:39:57,290 --> 00:39:58,670 best light possible? 918 00:39:58,920 --> 00:40:02,550 Absolutely. So I would make sure that, 919 00:40:02,550 --> 00:40:04,230 so we call this media training, 920 00:40:04,230 --> 00:40:08,580 right? You want to be prepared with what your talking points 921 00:40:08,580 --> 00:40:10,260 are, what your key messages are, 922 00:40:10,460 --> 00:40:13,640 and really how you're going to present your story and your 923 00:40:13,640 --> 00:40:15,800 idea. You really need to prepare. 924 00:40:15,980 --> 00:40:17,870 You can't go in and wing it. 925 00:40:18,510 --> 00:40:19,620 Plus you don't have a lot of time. 926 00:40:20,080 --> 00:40:22,690 Right. Especially for local television segment, 927 00:40:22,720 --> 00:40:25,480 right? It's three to five minutes And will they tell you 928 00:40:25,480 --> 00:40:26,560 how much time you get? 929 00:40:26,780 --> 00:40:28,040 Yeah. Okay. 930 00:40:28,100 --> 00:40:28,910 They would tell you. 931 00:40:28,940 --> 00:40:29,300 But yeah, 932 00:40:29,300 --> 00:40:32,780 so you want to determine what your key messages are and 933 00:40:32,780 --> 00:40:34,010 what your talking points are. 934 00:40:34,040 --> 00:40:37,260 But then I also would suggest letting all of that go 935 00:40:37,260 --> 00:40:40,960 at the last second you've prepared and then it's time. 936 00:40:40,960 --> 00:40:41,230 I know. 937 00:40:41,230 --> 00:40:43,810 So you did an episode recently about affirmations. 938 00:40:44,020 --> 00:40:46,120 Then it's time to bring in your affirmation, 939 00:40:46,150 --> 00:40:47,410 your media mantra, 940 00:40:47,600 --> 00:40:48,770 which mine is, 941 00:40:48,800 --> 00:40:53,750 I know my stuff and remind yourself that you were made 942 00:40:53,750 --> 00:40:54,410 to do this. 943 00:40:54,410 --> 00:40:57,440 You have been working on your craft for as long as 944 00:40:57,440 --> 00:40:58,040 you have. 945 00:40:58,230 --> 00:40:59,550 You know your story, 946 00:40:59,550 --> 00:41:00,360 you know your stuff, 947 00:41:00,360 --> 00:41:03,230 you've prepared and it's just time to take a breath and 948 00:41:03,230 --> 00:41:07,460 walk in there with confidence because the camera picks up all 949 00:41:07,460 --> 00:41:10,400 the little ticks and twitches that we might have. 950 00:41:10,620 --> 00:41:14,000 It's really important to sort of be composed and confident when 951 00:41:14,000 --> 00:41:15,650 you walk onto that set. 952 00:41:15,820 --> 00:41:17,260 The other thing about it though, 953 00:41:17,260 --> 00:41:21,010 another piece of media training that I offer my clients is 954 00:41:21,040 --> 00:41:23,890 that it's okay to name what's happening. 955 00:41:23,890 --> 00:41:26,020 So like if you do feel nervous, 956 00:41:26,080 --> 00:41:29,050 sometimes it really lightens the nerves. 957 00:41:29,050 --> 00:41:29,890 It lightens the mood. 958 00:41:29,890 --> 00:41:30,640 If you say like, 959 00:41:30,670 --> 00:41:31,570 Oh, I'm sorry, 960 00:41:31,570 --> 00:41:32,860 I'm just so excited to be here. 961 00:41:32,860 --> 00:41:33,770 I'm a little nervous. 962 00:41:33,970 --> 00:41:34,840 Something like that. 963 00:41:34,840 --> 00:41:36,060 If you were to name it, 964 00:41:36,220 --> 00:41:38,350 you obviously cannot take up a lot of time, 965 00:41:38,380 --> 00:41:41,080 but even if you say it before you go live, 966 00:41:41,270 --> 00:41:45,650 sometimes it lessens the burden of carrying that in silence. 967 00:41:45,980 --> 00:41:49,130 I think also to the point of just you give up 968 00:41:49,160 --> 00:41:50,930 all of what you were thinking, 969 00:41:50,930 --> 00:41:53,990 all of your prepping because you want to come out and 970 00:41:54,020 --> 00:41:57,440 represent your personality because that's again how you're different from other 971 00:41:57,440 --> 00:41:59,640 people. So you've already got the knowledge, 972 00:41:59,670 --> 00:42:01,170 you've already made the pitch, 973 00:42:01,330 --> 00:42:05,090 you've already perfected your bullet points as you're saying now, 974 00:42:05,090 --> 00:42:07,010 just walk out and be you. 975 00:42:07,400 --> 00:42:08,540 Yep, exactly. 976 00:42:08,570 --> 00:42:10,150 Way easier said than done though, 977 00:42:10,160 --> 00:42:11,320 right? Yeah. 978 00:42:11,680 --> 00:42:14,860 It's not a bad thing to be running on adrenaline in 979 00:42:14,860 --> 00:42:15,640 those moments. 980 00:42:15,640 --> 00:42:20,460 It's okay and you want to be present and you want 981 00:42:20,460 --> 00:42:23,520 to be genuine and you want to be in the moment. 982 00:42:23,520 --> 00:42:26,730 So that's another reason to set aside those notes and just 983 00:42:26,730 --> 00:42:28,680 go in and stake your ground. 984 00:42:29,150 --> 00:42:30,110 Perfect. All right, 985 00:42:30,110 --> 00:42:31,040 so guess what? 986 00:42:31,190 --> 00:42:32,000 We did it. 987 00:42:32,060 --> 00:42:33,080 It was great. 988 00:42:33,110 --> 00:42:38,000 We're so proud and family thought friends saw it, 989 00:42:38,030 --> 00:42:38,960 customer saw it, 990 00:42:38,960 --> 00:42:39,680 et cetera. 991 00:42:39,890 --> 00:42:42,530 How do you capture the clips then that you could use 992 00:42:42,590 --> 00:42:43,940 and can you just use them? 993 00:42:43,970 --> 00:42:45,560 How does the backend work? 994 00:42:46,430 --> 00:42:47,540 Yes, absolutely. 995 00:42:47,540 --> 00:42:48,320 Yes, you can. 996 00:42:48,350 --> 00:42:52,310 They've aired on the television show or they've aired on the 997 00:42:52,310 --> 00:42:54,440 podcast. You absolutely can. 998 00:42:54,530 --> 00:42:57,050 I don't think there's a way to like download the video 999 00:42:57,050 --> 00:42:58,460 and put it on your own site, 1000 00:42:58,620 --> 00:43:00,000 but even so it will be, 1001 00:43:00,000 --> 00:43:00,180 you know, 1002 00:43:00,180 --> 00:43:03,360 it'll have what they call the bug from the television station, 1003 00:43:03,360 --> 00:43:06,300 so it will be identified as having come from that station. 1004 00:43:06,300 --> 00:43:09,180 The little thing in the corner that says like news seven 1005 00:43:09,180 --> 00:43:09,690 or whatever, 1006 00:43:09,850 --> 00:43:12,460 so it'll have their logo so you could post it if 1007 00:43:12,460 --> 00:43:14,080 it's on YouTube or something like that. 1008 00:43:14,080 --> 00:43:17,170 You could absolutely post it on your website because they've made 1009 00:43:17,170 --> 00:43:17,800 it public. 1010 00:43:18,010 --> 00:43:22,870 You should absolutely have links to your media placements on your 1011 00:43:22,870 --> 00:43:26,500 website, on a press page or some best practices in web 1012 00:43:26,500 --> 00:43:30,130 design actually indicate that you should have some of your best 1013 00:43:30,130 --> 00:43:33,610 press clips right under the header on your homepage. 1014 00:43:33,770 --> 00:43:36,980 So you can do like an as seen in kind of 1015 00:43:37,010 --> 00:43:40,400 montage or collage or whatever it might be called. 1016 00:43:40,410 --> 00:43:43,650 And are those be clickable links or just the logos or 1017 00:43:43,950 --> 00:43:45,870 Those could be just the logos. 1018 00:43:45,900 --> 00:43:48,870 But on your press page you want to include links. 1019 00:43:49,290 --> 00:43:49,710 Got it. 1020 00:43:49,830 --> 00:43:52,890 Will a television station give you a file? 1021 00:43:53,320 --> 00:43:54,130 I don't know. 1022 00:43:54,220 --> 00:43:55,270 You could ask. 1023 00:43:55,540 --> 00:43:56,830 There's no harm in asking. 1024 00:43:56,860 --> 00:43:59,830 That's the kind of thing that actually you do want to 1025 00:43:59,830 --> 00:44:01,420 keep the conversation going. 1026 00:44:01,420 --> 00:44:05,230 You want to create a relationship with that television producer or 1027 00:44:05,230 --> 00:44:06,040 whomever it is. 1028 00:44:06,220 --> 00:44:10,000 So you should not feel weird about asking any question you 1029 00:44:10,000 --> 00:44:14,230 might have or offering a new idea or anything like that. 1030 00:44:14,230 --> 00:44:17,860 So remember that they are not up there on some pedestal 1031 00:44:17,920 --> 00:44:19,690 with looking down on you. 1032 00:44:19,890 --> 00:44:22,200 They do have a lot to do and you don't want 1033 00:44:22,200 --> 00:44:24,630 to make their job any more difficult, 1034 00:44:24,630 --> 00:44:27,900 which is actually my only reservation in asking them for a 1035 00:44:27,900 --> 00:44:32,440 file is that it may just be annoying for them so 1036 00:44:32,460 --> 00:44:35,460 you could ask for a link to the show or something 1037 00:44:35,460 --> 00:44:37,290 like that or you could look for it yourself, 1038 00:44:37,490 --> 00:44:41,480 but you want to honor their time and honor any extra 1039 00:44:41,480 --> 00:44:44,660 effort that they put in getting you the opportunity or helping 1040 00:44:44,660 --> 00:44:46,280 you capitalize on the opportunity. 1041 00:44:46,480 --> 00:44:49,750 But I would say for anything that you're going to do, 1042 00:44:49,750 --> 00:44:50,890 like on your own site, 1043 00:44:50,890 --> 00:44:52,720 I would try to do as much of that on your 1044 00:44:52,720 --> 00:44:53,560 own as you can. 1045 00:44:53,970 --> 00:44:54,390 Got it. 1046 00:44:54,420 --> 00:44:55,500 And as you're talking, 1047 00:44:55,500 --> 00:44:58,380 it also brings to mind that this shouldn't be, 1048 00:44:58,380 --> 00:45:01,050 I guess in our minds a one and done thing like 1049 00:45:01,050 --> 00:45:02,990 you're on a show and then that's it. 1050 00:45:03,030 --> 00:45:04,440 Now you go onto the next one. 1051 00:45:04,470 --> 00:45:06,330 If you can continue the relationship, 1052 00:45:06,360 --> 00:45:09,210 you may put yourself in a position to be the trusted 1053 00:45:09,210 --> 00:45:13,740 advisor about chocolate and then maybe they're going to reach out 1054 00:45:13,740 --> 00:45:16,350 to you when they need a segment because Valentine's day is 1055 00:45:16,350 --> 00:45:16,950 coming up. 1056 00:45:17,160 --> 00:45:18,880 Absolutely. So it's, 1057 00:45:18,880 --> 00:45:20,580 it's just the start of a relationship. 1058 00:45:20,580 --> 00:45:21,570 It's not just for one, 1059 00:45:21,570 --> 00:45:22,740 a one time thing. 1060 00:45:23,010 --> 00:45:24,240 Potentially. If you're lucky. 1061 00:45:24,680 --> 00:45:25,700 Exactly. Well, 1062 00:45:25,700 --> 00:45:28,940 it's also up to you to nurture that relationship as well. 1063 00:45:29,150 --> 00:45:30,740 Offer them a new idea. 1064 00:45:30,740 --> 00:45:33,170 If they don't come to you with that Valentine's idea, 1065 00:45:33,230 --> 00:45:34,760 then you can offer it to them. 1066 00:45:35,140 --> 00:45:35,740 There you go. 1067 00:45:35,950 --> 00:45:37,480 And obviously we didn't say this, 1068 00:45:37,480 --> 00:45:39,130 but I think we all know to do this. 1069 00:45:39,130 --> 00:45:41,620 A follow up a thank you when something's gone well, 1070 00:45:41,710 --> 00:45:42,600 so that's something. 1071 00:45:42,630 --> 00:45:45,290 Yeah, and that could be looking forward to featuring this on 1072 00:45:45,290 --> 00:45:45,860 my website. 1073 00:45:45,860 --> 00:45:46,790 Really appreciate it. 1074 00:45:46,790 --> 00:45:47,430 Enjoyed it so much. 1075 00:45:47,480 --> 00:45:48,320 No know whatever it is. 1076 00:45:48,470 --> 00:45:49,220 Whatever you say. 1077 00:45:49,280 --> 00:45:50,390 Yeah, just normal, 1078 00:45:50,390 --> 00:45:54,440 regular cordial wording I guess I'd say. 1079 00:45:54,640 --> 00:45:56,020 So gift biz listeners. 1080 00:45:56,050 --> 00:45:57,190 Isn't this exciting? 1081 00:45:57,410 --> 00:46:00,500 Amanda's talking about something that I don't think we think about 1082 00:46:00,530 --> 00:46:02,540 often. As I was saying in the beginning, 1083 00:46:02,540 --> 00:46:03,770 it's always social media. 1084 00:46:03,770 --> 00:46:04,520 How do I post more? 1085 00:46:04,520 --> 00:46:05,480 How do I get more followers? 1086 00:46:05,510 --> 00:46:06,830 All of this type of thing, 1087 00:46:07,020 --> 00:46:08,370 the followers and everything, 1088 00:46:08,640 --> 00:46:13,170 and this is something that now sounds so doable, 1089 00:46:13,290 --> 00:46:16,380 even though it sounds a little bit scary and risky, 1090 00:46:16,380 --> 00:46:18,930 it's really much more low risk than we think. 1091 00:46:18,960 --> 00:46:19,650 That was great, 1092 00:46:19,650 --> 00:46:22,530 Amanda, that you talked about that because I think we get 1093 00:46:22,530 --> 00:46:25,200 so fearful because we think that, 1094 00:46:25,200 --> 00:46:26,670 Oh, if they aren't interested, 1095 00:46:26,670 --> 00:46:30,090 the whole world's going to know in reality only we know. 1096 00:46:30,300 --> 00:46:32,560 Right? Or whoever you choose to tell. 1097 00:46:32,770 --> 00:46:36,850 Exactly, and it has been fabulous how you've listed all of 1098 00:46:36,850 --> 00:46:40,000 the things to do because any of us could get started 1099 00:46:40,000 --> 00:46:40,600 right now, 1100 00:46:40,600 --> 00:46:42,640 like as soon as we're done with this show, 1101 00:46:42,670 --> 00:46:45,820 you could start taking some of these steps and working yourself 1102 00:46:45,850 --> 00:46:49,150 toward having a spot on your local TV show become a 1103 00:46:49,150 --> 00:46:50,260 reality for you. 1104 00:46:50,540 --> 00:46:52,850 Absolutely. I want you to start right now. 1105 00:46:52,880 --> 00:46:54,350 Yes. Empower them. 1106 00:46:54,350 --> 00:46:56,420 Amanda, what do you say to somebody who's thinking, 1107 00:46:56,420 --> 00:46:57,860 okay, this all sounds good, 1108 00:46:57,860 --> 00:47:00,300 but I'm not sure We said this throughout the course of 1109 00:47:00,300 --> 00:47:00,960 this interview. 1110 00:47:01,180 --> 00:47:02,230 They need you. 1111 00:47:02,470 --> 00:47:04,030 They need your ideas. 1112 00:47:04,030 --> 00:47:06,460 It's not like you're going out there and begging in vain 1113 00:47:06,460 --> 00:47:09,010 for some exposure because of vanity. 1114 00:47:09,010 --> 00:47:10,450 I mean I don't mean in vain. 1115 00:47:10,450 --> 00:47:12,610 I mean for your own vanity, 1116 00:47:12,640 --> 00:47:15,760 you are putting yourself out there because you think you have 1117 00:47:15,760 --> 00:47:20,340 something valuable to offer to this audience and even if your 1118 00:47:20,340 --> 00:47:24,300 motivation really is to grow your business and support your family 1119 00:47:24,460 --> 00:47:26,050 and do this thing that you love, 1120 00:47:26,080 --> 00:47:29,980 I think that is a positive enough intention to this ball 1121 00:47:29,980 --> 00:47:33,080 rolling and someone out there is going to be inspired by 1122 00:47:33,080 --> 00:47:35,630 what you are putting out there so you owe it to 1123 00:47:35,630 --> 00:47:36,860 them as well. 1124 00:47:36,890 --> 00:47:40,640 If you don't find the intrinsic motivation within yourself to start 1125 00:47:40,640 --> 00:47:41,240 doing this, 1126 00:47:41,270 --> 00:47:43,850 then think about the people out there who are waiting to 1127 00:47:43,850 --> 00:47:45,050 hear from someone like you. 1128 00:47:45,080 --> 00:47:48,560 The people out there who are going to experience the positive 1129 00:47:48,560 --> 00:47:51,590 ripple effect of your courage and putting yourself out there. 1130 00:47:51,930 --> 00:47:55,110 I love that because I want to learn how to chocolate 1131 00:47:55,110 --> 00:47:56,640 dipped strawberries properly. 1132 00:47:57,420 --> 00:48:00,180 I want to learn how to make a gift basket that 1133 00:48:00,180 --> 00:48:03,210 I can give to my mother for her birthday. 1134 00:48:03,460 --> 00:48:06,850 Or I've always thought about knitting a scarf but don't know 1135 00:48:06,850 --> 00:48:08,170 how or the right colors. 1136 00:48:08,180 --> 00:48:10,960 Like there are so many ways we can take our creative 1137 00:48:10,960 --> 00:48:15,140 works and spin them to be a value to an audience. 1138 00:48:15,170 --> 00:48:16,430 Yep, absolutely. 1139 00:48:16,430 --> 00:48:18,740 So just you have to think a little differently than what 1140 00:48:18,740 --> 00:48:20,780 we normally think of as business owners. 1141 00:48:21,080 --> 00:48:21,920 Love this. 1142 00:48:21,920 --> 00:48:22,820 Thank you so, 1143 00:48:22,820 --> 00:48:23,840 so much Amanda. 1144 00:48:23,840 --> 00:48:26,780 These have been just a whole package of great gifts for 1145 00:48:27,050 --> 00:48:29,750 us to take with and move forward and take action. 1146 00:48:29,980 --> 00:48:30,910 It's my pleasure. 1147 00:48:31,160 --> 00:48:31,970 And now Amanda, 1148 00:48:31,970 --> 00:48:34,340 I'd like to present you with a virtual gift. 1149 00:48:34,400 --> 00:48:36,920 I'd like to invite you to dare to dream. 1150 00:48:37,250 --> 00:48:41,690 So this virtual gift is a magical box containing unlimited possibilities 1151 00:48:41,690 --> 00:48:42,530 for your future. 1152 00:48:42,770 --> 00:48:45,950 So this is your dream or your goal of almost unreachable 1153 00:48:45,950 --> 00:48:49,160 Heights that you would wish to obtain except this gift. 1154 00:48:49,280 --> 00:48:52,610 On behalf of myself and my listeners and we'd like to 1155 00:48:52,610 --> 00:48:53,930 know what's inside your box. 1156 00:48:54,260 --> 00:48:54,920 Oh Sue, 1157 00:48:54,920 --> 00:48:55,670 thank you. 1158 00:48:55,670 --> 00:48:56,600 And everyone out there. 1159 00:48:56,600 --> 00:48:58,280 Thank you so much for the gift. 1160 00:48:58,310 --> 00:48:59,660 This was so thoughtful. 1161 00:48:59,860 --> 00:49:04,960 Inside. This box for me is really a business that is 1162 00:49:04,960 --> 00:49:07,120 filled with integrity, 1163 00:49:07,120 --> 00:49:11,740 with positive intentions and really massive abundance, 1164 00:49:11,770 --> 00:49:16,570 but built on the intention that I'm helping other women in 1165 00:49:16,570 --> 00:49:22,270 particular raise their voices and be heard and seen for the 1166 00:49:22,540 --> 00:49:25,690 powerful creative forces that we are, 1167 00:49:25,960 --> 00:49:30,940 and I do this in really an honor of my own 1168 00:49:30,940 --> 00:49:32,470 daughter. I have a five-year-old, 1169 00:49:32,500 --> 00:49:33,490 I'm a single mom, 1170 00:49:33,770 --> 00:49:38,150 and I really want her to see all of us out 1171 00:49:38,150 --> 00:49:42,540 there doing this work and being seen and being creative and 1172 00:49:42,600 --> 00:49:47,880 creating something that no one else could possibly have created simply 1173 00:49:47,880 --> 00:49:50,430 because it has emanated from our unique being. 1174 00:49:50,430 --> 00:49:53,280 So that's my wild though. 1175 00:49:53,280 --> 00:49:54,990 I think attainable dream. 1176 00:49:55,500 --> 00:49:56,070 I love it. 1177 00:49:56,340 --> 00:49:58,920 Taking responsibility and driving our future, 1178 00:49:58,950 --> 00:50:00,600 not letting things happen to us. 1179 00:50:01,050 --> 00:50:03,990 Yes, I loved your gift because it goes both ways. 1180 00:50:04,050 --> 00:50:06,120 You give to us and then we give back to you, 1181 00:50:06,120 --> 00:50:09,670 so. Okay, 1182 00:50:09,670 --> 00:50:10,810 one more time. 1183 00:50:10,810 --> 00:50:12,820 How can our listeners get in touch with you? 1184 00:50:13,220 --> 00:50:15,740 Please come find me@amandaberlin.com 1185 00:50:15,770 --> 00:50:17,240 I was going to give my email address again, 1186 00:50:17,240 --> 00:50:18,320 which I can also do. 1187 00:50:18,380 --> 00:50:23,090 amanda@amandaberlin.com if you have any questions about this whole process, 1188 00:50:23,090 --> 00:50:26,590 I know that it's overwhelming and you're probably super motivated to 1189 00:50:26,590 --> 00:50:29,060 get, but inevitably it's like, 1190 00:50:29,240 --> 00:50:30,920 I ha what am I supposed to do now? 1191 00:50:30,920 --> 00:50:33,640 So please feel free to reach out to me and if 1192 00:50:33,640 --> 00:50:35,830 you go to the resources page on my website, 1193 00:50:35,830 --> 00:50:38,470 you'll find lots of free downloads that can help you with 1194 00:50:38,470 --> 00:50:39,100 this effort. 1195 00:50:39,510 --> 00:50:41,550 Beautiful. Thank you so much. 1196 00:50:41,580 --> 00:50:43,590 I am thrilled that you had time to come on the 1197 00:50:43,600 --> 00:50:47,650 show, share all of this information with us and I think 1198 00:50:47,670 --> 00:50:48,540 gift biz listeners, 1199 00:50:48,540 --> 00:50:50,160 you're going to have to report back to us when you 1200 00:50:50,160 --> 00:50:51,450 start getting media placements. 1201 00:50:51,450 --> 00:50:52,230 We want to know. 1202 00:50:53,010 --> 00:50:53,910 That would be great. 1203 00:50:54,180 --> 00:50:54,810 Thanks again, 1204 00:50:54,810 --> 00:50:56,790 Amanda. Thank you so much. 1205 00:50:56,790 --> 00:51:05,780 So. So I'm usually pretty good at keeping secrets, 1206 00:51:05,870 --> 00:51:08,180 but I'm spilling the beans. 1207 00:51:08,240 --> 00:51:09,410 I can't help it. 1208 00:51:09,500 --> 00:51:10,550 I'm so excited. 1209 00:51:10,550 --> 00:51:13,980 I just want to tell you guys what I've been working 1210 00:51:13,980 --> 00:51:15,870 on over the last few months. 1211 00:51:16,170 --> 00:51:19,350 It's been a little bit of a secret project because I 1212 00:51:19,350 --> 00:51:21,990 wasn't sure exactly what the timing was going to look like 1213 00:51:21,990 --> 00:51:22,440 on it, 1214 00:51:22,530 --> 00:51:23,760 but I can't, 1215 00:51:23,760 --> 00:51:26,310 wait. I have to share with you my secret. 1216 00:51:26,750 --> 00:51:28,880 Many of you have been following me for a while. 1217 00:51:28,880 --> 00:51:31,820 Know that I wrote a book that came out last may. 1218 00:51:31,850 --> 00:51:33,410 It's called maker to master, 1219 00:51:33,580 --> 00:51:35,620 but that's not what this is about. 1220 00:51:35,620 --> 00:51:37,930 Although it spins off a similar concept. 1221 00:51:38,550 --> 00:51:40,710 When I was getting serious about writing that book, 1222 00:51:40,740 --> 00:51:44,640 there were actually two books that I had in my mind. 1223 00:51:44,910 --> 00:51:48,180 One was maker to master and that truth be told was 1224 00:51:48,420 --> 00:51:49,800 the harder one to do, 1225 00:51:49,970 --> 00:51:54,200 but I also was really interested in writing a book that 1226 00:51:54,260 --> 00:51:59,030 was an inspirational book kind of inspiration a day. 1227 00:51:59,090 --> 00:52:03,110 I know you've seen those out there where it's 365 inspiring 1228 00:52:03,140 --> 00:52:05,120 thoughts for your year or something like that. 1229 00:52:05,450 --> 00:52:09,890 I think very often we get defeated by our own self-talk 1230 00:52:10,100 --> 00:52:16,100 and we also sway away from core solid business growth values 1231 00:52:16,280 --> 00:52:20,740 because there's a new social media site that it's available or 1232 00:52:20,800 --> 00:52:24,610 other things come up that take our mind off of the 1233 00:52:24,610 --> 00:52:27,490 really important things that we need to grow our business. 1234 00:52:28,030 --> 00:52:29,620 As things happen. 1235 00:52:29,710 --> 00:52:34,570 My idea continued to evolve and I came up with the 1236 00:52:34,570 --> 00:52:40,330 idea of instead of doing a 365 inspiring tips type book, 1237 00:52:40,660 --> 00:52:45,100 it would be way more helpful for you if it was 1238 00:52:45,100 --> 00:52:49,420 included in some type of a planner so that every day 1239 00:52:49,420 --> 00:52:51,130 when you're planning out your day, 1240 00:52:51,280 --> 00:52:53,140 you'd also then see a tip. 1241 00:52:53,500 --> 00:52:55,480 If I look at how I work with things, 1242 00:52:55,510 --> 00:52:57,550 I don't know if I would have a book on the 1243 00:52:57,550 --> 00:53:00,940 side of my desk and every day look at one day's 1244 00:53:00,940 --> 00:53:02,620 inspiration and then other days, 1245 00:53:02,740 --> 00:53:05,980 inspiration, way better to have everything in one place. 1246 00:53:06,790 --> 00:53:09,850 Consequently, I have created a planner. 1247 00:53:09,970 --> 00:53:15,220 It's called inspired a daily planner specifically for you, 1248 00:53:15,730 --> 00:53:18,070 our wonderful community of gifters, 1249 00:53:18,100 --> 00:53:20,500 bakers, crafters and makers. 1250 00:53:21,040 --> 00:53:23,170 I'll be sharing more in the upcoming days, 1251 00:53:23,230 --> 00:53:25,560 but let me give you a few highlights here. 1252 00:53:25,860 --> 00:53:28,320 One of the cool things about this planner is you can 1253 00:53:28,320 --> 00:53:30,420 start any month of the year. 1254 00:53:31,020 --> 00:53:32,220 Have you ever been like me? 1255 00:53:32,220 --> 00:53:35,610 Where all of a sudden in may you decide I want 1256 00:53:35,610 --> 00:53:36,840 to start doing things different. 1257 00:53:36,900 --> 00:53:39,090 I want to get myself really organized, 1258 00:53:39,180 --> 00:53:41,880 but then you go to find a planner and they either 1259 00:53:41,880 --> 00:53:45,450 start in September going into the next year or you have 1260 00:53:45,450 --> 00:53:47,790 to buy a year and all the prior months of the 1261 00:53:47,790 --> 00:53:51,810 year are useless for you because you're already in may with 1262 00:53:51,810 --> 00:53:52,320 this planner. 1263 00:53:52,320 --> 00:53:53,820 You can start any time. 1264 00:53:54,300 --> 00:53:57,150 If you're listening to this announcement in January, 1265 00:53:57,330 --> 00:53:58,980 you can start it right away. 1266 00:53:59,160 --> 00:54:00,570 If you're hearing this in may, 1267 00:54:00,780 --> 00:54:03,120 you can use this planner starting in may. 1268 00:54:03,690 --> 00:54:06,510 It has monthly and daily layout, 1269 00:54:06,570 --> 00:54:10,740 so you'll be able to keep yourself really organized and special 1270 00:54:10,830 --> 00:54:12,660 life enhancing sections. 1271 00:54:13,140 --> 00:54:17,160 More on that later also includes what I've been talking about 1272 00:54:17,190 --> 00:54:20,310 earlier and the reason I changed this from a book to 1273 00:54:20,310 --> 00:54:24,030 a planner and that is daily inspiration. 1274 00:54:24,300 --> 00:54:26,040 Things that you need to be telling yourself, 1275 00:54:26,100 --> 00:54:29,850 affirmations to get in the right mindset as the owner of 1276 00:54:29,850 --> 00:54:30,630 your business. 1277 00:54:31,080 --> 00:54:33,570 Also, business tips and ideas. 1278 00:54:33,780 --> 00:54:35,370 Some of them you're going to read and you're like, 1279 00:54:35,370 --> 00:54:36,240 yep, got it, 1280 00:54:36,300 --> 00:54:40,590 it's covered and then others might give you some pause ideas 1281 00:54:40,590 --> 00:54:44,100 of things you might want to implement into your business to 1282 00:54:44,100 --> 00:54:48,240 further either solidify or grow what you already have going. 1283 00:54:48,870 --> 00:54:51,330 That's all I'm going to share with you right now, 1284 00:54:51,420 --> 00:54:54,630 but I will tell you that we are just weeks away 1285 00:54:54,660 --> 00:54:57,030 from getting this out to you. 1286 00:54:57,450 --> 00:55:00,360 I'm going to do a limited first run and if you 1287 00:55:00,360 --> 00:55:02,550 want to be one of the first ones to know when 1288 00:55:02,550 --> 00:55:03,420 it's available, 1289 00:55:03,600 --> 00:55:07,620 jump over to give biz unwrapped.com 1290 00:55:07,920 --> 00:55:11,640 forward slash add me and you'll get an email when the 1291 00:55:11,640 --> 00:55:12,570 planner is ready. 1292 00:55:13,140 --> 00:55:16,680 That link again is gift biz unwrapped.com 1293 00:55:17,040 --> 00:55:21,150 forward slash add me there is no time like the present 1294 00:55:21,180 --> 00:55:24,810 to take the next step on solidifying the dream you have 1295 00:55:24,810 --> 00:55:25,830 for your business. 1296 00:55:26,280 --> 00:55:30,360 The new inspired planner could be just the ticket to making 1297 00:55:30,360 --> 00:55:33,670 sure that that actually happens for you this year. 1298 00:55:35,650 --> 00:55:38,740 Thanks again for joining me today and I want to make 1299 00:55:38,740 --> 00:55:42,670 sure that you subscribe to the show because you do not 1300 00:55:42,670 --> 00:55:45,130 want to miss what I have coming in your way next 1301 00:55:45,130 --> 00:55:49,930 week to little bit of Self reflection for you. 1302 00:55:50,320 --> 00:55:53,560 You might walk away learning a little bit more about yourself, 1303 00:55:53,860 --> 00:55:56,590 feeling really good about some of the things that you're doing 1304 00:55:56,590 --> 00:56:01,210 for your business and understanding why some other things you do 1305 00:56:01,630 --> 00:56:03,010 are just so uncomfortable, 1306 00:56:03,040 --> 00:56:07,120 they don't feel like a really good fit and then what 1307 00:56:07,120 --> 00:56:08,020 to do about that. 1308 00:56:08,710 --> 00:56:10,270 Have I peaked your curiosity? 1309 00:56:10,640 --> 00:56:12,410 I found this really, 1310 00:56:12,440 --> 00:56:17,060 really helpful to me and interesting just to understand myself better 1311 00:56:17,060 --> 00:56:19,790 and why react to things in business that I do and 1312 00:56:19,790 --> 00:56:23,660 that's all coming your way next week on gift biz unwrapped. 1313 00:56:23,840 --> 00:56:24,830 I'll see you then.