How do I optimize an established business? One
Speaker:easy peasy way would be to, you're going to need at least $6 million
Speaker:in your bank account to retire on in 15 to 20 years time.
Speaker:Most people are going to be completely screwed. Don't
Speaker:be that person dead at the wheel. Go and get educated, especially
Speaker:when it comes to creating wealth for your future. If you're looking to acquire
Speaker:a whole range of symbiotic businesses, one of the questions might be, should
Speaker:I rebrand the other businesses so it all comes under
Speaker:one brand? And the answer to that is, I'm Matthew Fraser
Speaker:and this is Amazon Ecom Secrets. I'll
Speaker:be sharing with you the secrets that helped me go from millions in
Speaker:debt to an eight-figure entrepreneur. If you're
Speaker:ready to escape the nine-to-five and live life on your terms,
Speaker:let me show you the way. Hey guys, welcome to Amazon Ecom
Speaker:Secrets. For this episode, I'm going to be talking to
Speaker:you about how to maximize your
Speaker:exit price when you sell. And
Speaker:I talk about, I've talked about this a lot, actually. And
Speaker:that is about how to, I guess, either start an Amazon-based
Speaker:business, for example, or buy an existing Amazon
Speaker:or Ecom business. And then
Speaker:what are the opportunities then to grow that business and ultimately
Speaker:sell? Okay. I think for most people, they
Speaker:do want to sell the business because you can take a lot of chips off the table. It
Speaker:might be, for example, in the $1 million to $5 million range, mostly. Okay. And
Speaker:there was a bit of key information that came my way just
Speaker:this week. And I thought, geez, this
Speaker:is something that I have to share. So let me give you the context first
Speaker:about how you may start and
Speaker:grow a business and what are the opportunities first. And
Speaker:then we'll talk about how you can maximize your sale price.
Speaker:So let's just say there's two pathways in the very beginning, whether
Speaker:it be Amazon or e-commerce, and it's
Speaker:either you start a product from scratch or you,
Speaker:what's a product and brand from scratch, or
Speaker:you buy an existing brand with products, okay?
Speaker:There's the two pathways we're going to talk about. Now,
Speaker:if you buy an established business, then
Speaker:guess what? You're going to truncate the time because when you start a
Speaker:brand new business, it's going to take time. If we talk about Amazon
Speaker:for a second, it's going to take time to obviously develop the product,
Speaker:come up with the brand name, do the trademarking and the barcoding and
Speaker:establish the supply relationships and get all the pricing all
Speaker:done, building marketing, building social
Speaker:media pages and websites, things like this, right? You
Speaker:have to do all of that. And then you have to dial
Speaker:it in because just because you start your own brand on
Speaker:a product doesn't even mean that it's going to be successful
Speaker:and importantly profitable, right? Because success is
Speaker:going to come from profit. So you do not even
Speaker:know if that's going to happen for you, okay? But
Speaker:when you buy an established business, you've already
Speaker:got all the things that I just mentioned are done.
Speaker:The branding's done. The trademarks are done. The social media sites
Speaker:are already done. The supply relationships have already
Speaker:been established. The pricing's there. And you can then
Speaker:look at the P&Ls, which is profit and loss statements, and
Speaker:know, is this business making money or not? And of
Speaker:course, you would only buy the business if it's making a profit, right?
Speaker:So that's the advantage to buying established. Shortening
Speaker:the time, because if you start from scratch, it may take you 2, 3, 4, 5 years
Speaker:to maybe get up to the same level as if you were to buy a
Speaker:business that's already been trading for 5 years, right?
Speaker:You're shortening the time. And that could
Speaker:be also a key for you to get out of your 9 to 5 job.
Speaker:maybe you want to get out sooner. So if you can buy a business that's
Speaker:already proven, that's the other thing, it's proven and established
Speaker:that it is profitable, you could break out of
Speaker:the nine to five immediately and start drawing an income
Speaker:out of the profit that the business is making. So
Speaker:I hope That makes sense. And the other key thing I forgot
Speaker:to mention was that when you're buying the established Amazon-based business,
Speaker:it comes with all the reviews as well. Now, the stats
Speaker:are that only 2 or 3% out of 100, right, 2 or 3% of sales, sorry,
Speaker:2 or 3% of sales get reviews. Now
Speaker:you can imagine that's a very, very slow process now to
Speaker:build up reviews. So if you could buy a brand with products
Speaker:that already have thousand, 5,000 reviews,
Speaker:wow, that's powerful stuff because you've already got
Speaker:that in locked in, right? You can't take them away. And
Speaker:so immediately, let's just say that buying
Speaker:a business is what you think is the winner for the reasons
Speaker:I've just said. And you can come up with the money, whether you
Speaker:go and buy, you go to the bank, you get the money where you get it from the
Speaker:mortgage, you draw it down out of your mortgage. There's a whole, you
Speaker:get investors. There's a whole range of ways to get the money. But let's just say that's
Speaker:what you've decided to do. You're going to buy an established business. Now
Speaker:it's a case of how do I optimize that
Speaker:business? Because we don't really just want to buy it and just
Speaker:draw the income and the profit that it's already making.
Speaker:We'd like to increase the income and the profit, right? So
Speaker:how do we do that? One easy peasy way
Speaker:would be to add a new product line. That
Speaker:would be simple. So if it's a business that's selling yoga mats,
Speaker:it might be just adding a new type of yoga mat might
Speaker:be a different type of material, it might be a different color, you know, because colors come
Speaker:and go in fads, and you know, you might decide that the new teal
Speaker:is highly desirable right now, so you just open up a new teal line.
Speaker:So you've already got the branding and you've got the relationships already done, you
Speaker:just have to put it in order for teal. So that might
Speaker:be a way. But even bigger than that, bigger
Speaker:than that, is particularly if
Speaker:you buy an American-based, USA-based business, most
Speaker:of those businesses are not on any other platform outside
Speaker:of the USA, right? Because most Americans, as
Speaker:I've said before, think the world revolves around America,
Speaker:right? They don't know there's other parts of the world and they're probably making
Speaker:all right money for them. They're like, you know, why would I bother sending it to, you
Speaker:know, some other random country like Australia or the UK or
Speaker:to a lesser degree, Canada and Mexico, I'm just
Speaker:going to stick to USA, right? So the opportunity, the
Speaker:simple opportunity is open up an account in the UK,
Speaker:an Amazon account in the UK, and now just send your stock over to
Speaker:the UK. And what most people don't know
Speaker:about is that the reviews that you have on
Speaker:your USA listing transfer and are visible to
Speaker:the UK listing, right? So you're not starting from zero on
Speaker:the review. So automatically you've got instant trust with the
Speaker:customers who are going to see that listing and you start making
Speaker:sales straight away. So that's, that's one easy way. And
Speaker:so then let's say you've gone down this path, you've
Speaker:maybe got an Amazon in USA, you've gone to Canada, Mexico, UK,
Speaker:Australia, and these are all the pathways that I've taken myself. So it can
Speaker:be done, it's quite easy. It's easy once you know how. The
Speaker:other thing you might then decide to do is let's get
Speaker:a business that, now let's say
Speaker:for example it is a yoga-based business, yoga mats is your business. You
Speaker:want to find another business that is symbiotic to
Speaker:that business, that would complement the yoga
Speaker:mat business. And so you start thinking, what else do yoga
Speaker:people buy? Now it might be supplements. Okay.
Speaker:So if you could, you could find either an e-commerce or
Speaker:Amazon-based supplement business. And
Speaker:you're thinking, okay, and again, it's going to be a profitable business
Speaker:that you can just buy and start leveraging. And of
Speaker:course, if it's just based in the USA, boom, what are you going to do?
Speaker:You're going to start opening up in other territories around the world. Okay.
Speaker:But here's the next thing, which is what most people don't
Speaker:think about, which is that you've now got two symbiotic
Speaker:businesses. They both complement each other. You
Speaker:can now start marketing the supplement
Speaker:business to your yoga mat customers. And
Speaker:you can also sell your yoga mat
Speaker:products to your supplement customers. Now,
Speaker:what's that going to do? It's going to reduce your ad
Speaker:spend, okay? Significantly, because
Speaker:you would, as a rule of thumb, anywhere
Speaker:from 20 to 30%, you're going to traditionally
Speaker:spend on advertising to get customers, okay?
Speaker:Now, if you could halve that even, just halve that
Speaker:cost, that could be a
Speaker:hit to your bottom line and increased your bottom line in the
Speaker:hundreds of thousands of dollars. And so
Speaker:that is the power of buying a
Speaker:symbiotic business that complements your
Speaker:yoga mat business. And then it would be, okay, you've done that one.
Speaker:What's the next thing? Maybe it's water bottles. You
Speaker:know, the sports water bottles. Right now it's, you know, those
Speaker:Stanley brands. My wife's got one, my daughters have got this Stanley brand
Speaker:and they're crazy prices. But
Speaker:yoga people, it turns out, love water bottles. So you
Speaker:go find a water bottle based business
Speaker:that you can now cross sell to your yoga
Speaker:mat people, and of course, your supplement people. Again,
Speaker:you're going to save on ad spend. And so by each business
Speaker:you buy, reducing the ad spend, you're now adding potentially
Speaker:hundreds of thousands of dollars to the bottom line for each business. And
Speaker:let's just fast forward and say that you can acquire, and they
Speaker:often call this type of system a roll-up. But
Speaker:it's also like an acquisition as well. you're going to
Speaker:acquire other businesses that are going to complement your existing business. So
Speaker:imagine you've got five businesses that are all working
Speaker:together. They all complement each other. And you've just increased
Speaker:the bottom line. Even if it was just $100,000 per business, there's now
Speaker:a half a million dollars added to your
Speaker:bottom line. And so where does this come
Speaker:in to Where does this
Speaker:come in to the exit? Okay, let's go
Speaker:back to the beginning. You've got a business that's just the yoga mat
Speaker:business. Traditionally speaking, depending on
Speaker:a couple of factors, but just random numbers, you're
Speaker:probably going to get a 3x on that business. What does that mean? Let's say
Speaker:it's earning $100,000 a year. 100,000, that's
Speaker:$100,000 profit. And 100,000 times three is 300,000. So that
Speaker:now becomes the valuation of the business. It's
Speaker:that plus stock. And let's say
Speaker:you get another business. You've got now your supplement business. And
Speaker:now that one on its own was
Speaker:generating $100,000 in profit. And then that business is
Speaker:worth $300,000. And as you start growing it
Speaker:out, now it's going to get to a point though, where if
Speaker:you've now saved on the ad spend and the ad spend is added
Speaker:to your bottom line, and I did say in the scenario, it increased your
Speaker:bottom line by a hundred. So now each one in this scenario is earning $200,000 each.
Speaker:So now 200,000 times five
Speaker:is a million. On
Speaker:its own, the yoga mat business was a three X
Speaker:multiple value at 300,000. Okay, as
Speaker:you started adding the other businesses, the profit increased. So
Speaker:the amount of the profit increase, so therefore even that times three would be more. But
Speaker:here's the key part. As you grow
Speaker:out the businesses, and you can get it to a point of
Speaker:doing over eight figures a year, it
Speaker:then increases the multiple. And I'm not talking just from
Speaker:like a 3x to a 4x. I'm talking from a 3x
Speaker:to upwards maybe 7 or 8x. Okay.
Speaker:That is massive. So that means that
Speaker:you've just increased all your five businesses from $100,000 to
Speaker:$200,000 of profit. But the multiple, because we're
Speaker:now going to have five times $200,000 is a million dollars. The
Speaker:multiple normally would be $3 million
Speaker:exit. But because you've got a whole package
Speaker:of businesses together, it can take
Speaker:the multiple now to even if it was six
Speaker:times, we're now talking $6 million
Speaker:as opposed to the $3 million. And so that, guys, is
Speaker:the power of the multiple and building
Speaker:in these symbiotic businesses, which will ultimately help
Speaker:you in your exit. Turns out
Speaker:that the guys who buy these rolled up businesses,
Speaker:they are actually looking for businesses that do
Speaker:more revenue because we can easily fall into this trap thinking, oh,
Speaker:well, if it's a small business, you know, it's doing $100,000 a year in
Speaker:profit, oh, that'll be easier to sell because it's cheap. because you'd only
Speaker:sell for $300, let's say. It's actually not the case. There's
Speaker:people out there, companies, VCs,
Speaker:venture capitalists, who want to buy these higher
Speaker:turnover, higher profitable type businesses. And
Speaker:that's why they're willing to pay more for it. Like the six, seven, eight times multiples.
Speaker:Okay. It's the same amount of work for these guys, whether
Speaker:they're buying a business that's making a million dollars or
Speaker:a business that's making 50 million dollars. Same
Speaker:amount of work, just different zeros. And
Speaker:so that's the power. So
Speaker:now when you're thinking about starting up your own business, whether you're starting
Speaker:or buying, think about the end goal now, okay?
Speaker:Think about a business that you could get into that
Speaker:could easily then attract other types of businesses. So
Speaker:again, you buy the yoga mats business, what else complements that?
Speaker:The sports bottles, the supplements, it
Speaker:could even be gym equipment, Gym
Speaker:clothing could be another one, right? So think about in your particular niche
Speaker:how you can sort of create. Now, let's relate it exactly to
Speaker:what I'm doing. I'm already in the
Speaker:healthcare space. I've
Speaker:already started adding things to my Shopify store,
Speaker:which are other brands. Okay, so I'm fitting out my shop. I
Speaker:don't own those businesses. I just simply buy the stock from them and
Speaker:then stock it and sell it to my customers. That's in a
Speaker:very small way, I guess, an expansion of my product range,
Speaker:another symbiotic product, for example. But let's
Speaker:take things even further. And this is something that I've been thinking about
Speaker:for a long time because I talk about it so much, but I've never actually
Speaker:done it. The reason why I've never done it, I've been so busy with
Speaker:my existing business doing eight figures. It just took
Speaker:up a lot of time. Okay. But because I've
Speaker:now moved into the mentoring space, I really want to give back
Speaker:more value to you. And
Speaker:so that's why now I'm committed to going and
Speaker:finding another symbiotic business to add to
Speaker:my repertoire. Thinking about perhaps I exit in
Speaker:the future, but more importantly, aside from that, is
Speaker:showing you the pathway of documenting the journey of me actually
Speaker:buying this other business. Okay, giving you all the tips
Speaker:and tricks, all the learnings that I get, because what
Speaker:I'm not afraid of is operating the business.
Speaker:That's what I do all day every day and grow my
Speaker:existing business. I've done it for years now. So that's not daunting to
Speaker:me. All the things I talk about with expanding into
Speaker:other products, going into other markets, other countries, other
Speaker:platforms, I've done all that, right? Second
Speaker:nature to me. So all I have to do now is
Speaker:actually go and find the time to go and buy
Speaker:the other business. Now that has also been a
Speaker:stumbling block for me in the past too, which has been, ah, I'm
Speaker:just, I'm just so busy with my existing business. Now
Speaker:having done nearly $50 million, I don't have time to worry
Speaker:about some other similar business, right? But now because I really want to
Speaker:document this journey for you so I can add more value to you. And I think you'll find
Speaker:it really, really interesting. And so when we talk about
Speaker:time, It's not because I've really just all of a sudden got more time. What
Speaker:I'm going to do is I'm going to show you how to shortcut the time. And luckily
Speaker:for you guys, I know some people who are in the buying and selling business
Speaker:niche, right? So I'm going to tap on their shoulder and say, Hey, look, I'm going
Speaker:to now give them a commission to go and find
Speaker:me the exact type of business that I'm looking for. I'm going to document this
Speaker:whole process for you so that when you're ready to go into it,
Speaker:you can simply follow the footsteps that I've already taken. And
Speaker:it'll certainly be very interesting at the very least to see if
Speaker:I decide to maybe like look at a hundred million dollar exit or something, who
Speaker:knows. But let me know guys in the comments, what
Speaker:type of business that you'd actually like to see. I mean, for me, I think it's a healthcare business,
Speaker:but it's a healthcare related business. But what do you think would
Speaker:also be related to healthcare? Maybe it's something that I'm not even thinking of.
Speaker:Let me know in the comments. I'll be interested to know what you guys think about it.
Speaker:So guys, if you want to see this
Speaker:whole journey documented, I'm only going to be
Speaker:providing the granular in-depth knowledge in
Speaker:my community. If you want to be a part of that, you just have to click on
Speaker:the link around this video. Come and join the community. It's only US$49 a month. You
Speaker:get to speak with me once a month at the very least through
Speaker:our monthly Q&As and also
Speaker:a whole bunch of information in there regarding how you can grow
Speaker:your business to eight figures and beyond as well as starting up your very
Speaker:own Amazon business if that's something that you want to do. Sometimes when you're going into
Speaker:starting up an Amazon business, you can fall into the trap of
Speaker:following a particular set of guidelines. And
Speaker:you're trying to make a particular product fit exactly in
Speaker:every single box, right? So it
Speaker:must be unique, has to have the right price point, maybe
Speaker:it's recurring, maybe it has a, you
Speaker:know, at least barriers to entry, maybe it's easy to manufacture, right?
Speaker:Something like that. And so you're going through and you're ticking all the boxes. And
Speaker:you try and force this product into match every single box. But what
Speaker:I want to tell you is that you might find a product that
Speaker:doesn't hit every type of metric that perhaps a
Speaker:course that you're doing right now, not my course, but some other course is
Speaker:telling you to do. And I saw this the other day with
Speaker:a friend of mine who's doing something in the Amazon space.
Speaker:And the mistake he made was that He
Speaker:was told that, you know, you need to get your product on Amazon Australia
Speaker:because if you do, it's going to be
Speaker:at the top of the list. Now here was the problem though.
Speaker:Amazon Australia is such a small market that
Speaker:no one was going to Amazon to look for this product. Okay. And
Speaker:I don't want to share the exact product, but I'll tell you it was in the boating
Speaker:niche. Okay. It turns out
Speaker:that people who are in the boating industry, recreationally,
Speaker:they don't go to Amazon to buy their stuff. They go
Speaker:down to BCF or they go to Bunnings or they go
Speaker:to like a specialty boating store. And
Speaker:so my point here is that you
Speaker:have to get the right product and
Speaker:then find the right platform to sell it into. If
Speaker:he had taken this product to the USA, it's completely
Speaker:different because it turns out people buy boating products off
Speaker:Amazon in USA. But that's because Amazon has been around for so
Speaker:long that people are indoctrinated into buying from Amazon. So
Speaker:just remember, not every single product in Australia is
Speaker:going to fit into the Australian Amazon marketplace. Especially
Speaker:when there's no other products there. There's probably a reason why there's no other products there, right? Because
Speaker:no one's going there. One of my private mentor and clients the other day said to
Speaker:me during our meeting, as I was explaining to
Speaker:him about wealth creation, he said, Matthew, most
Speaker:people out there in the world are fucked. Yeah,
Speaker:they are. Because once we looked at the numbers and the stats
Speaker:are right now, the numbers are that you're going to need at least $6 million in
Speaker:your bank account to retire on in 15 to 20 years time.
Speaker:That's going to be average. You don't have a basic income. Most
Speaker:people are going to be completely screwed. They will not
Speaker:have that type of money. And I said, I
Speaker:said back to my client, but that's not going to be you. Because
Speaker:you, although you're not there yet, you are
Speaker:the one who's taking action now, right? You're
Speaker:here tonight on a Wednesday night talking to me about
Speaker:how you're going to map out, plan your wealth creation, right?
Speaker:He's the one that's taken the risk, taken the incentive
Speaker:to go out and do something where everyone else around him is
Speaker:dead at the wheel. Don't be that person dead at the wheel. Go
Speaker:and get educated, especially when it comes to creating wealth
Speaker:for your future. So if you're looking to acquire a whole range
Speaker:of symbiotic businesses, one of the questions might be, should I
Speaker:rebrand the other businesses so it all comes under
Speaker:one brand? And the answer to that is absolutely
Speaker:not. You do not want to do that because like
Speaker:I mentioned before, you're buying these businesses as they are
Speaker:with the existing branding, with the social media accounts, with
Speaker:the trademarks, with the patents potentially, and
Speaker:they're going to all come with that business.
Speaker:You don't want to now strip away all of that intellectual
Speaker:IP that you've just now purchased just so you could change it to a different brand. That
Speaker:would be a big no-no. All right, guys. Hope you've enjoyed that
Speaker:episode and I really look forward to you growing your
Speaker:business and perhaps you will also exit for $100 million in
Speaker:the future as well. But if you're someone that actually already has a business
Speaker:that has also bought Symbiotic Business, let me know in the comments. I'd love to
Speaker:know what you're doing. All right, guys. Take care. Thanks for
Speaker:tuning into Amazon Ecom Secrets. If you enjoyed
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Speaker:You can also find more at I'm Matthew Fraser
Speaker:on all social media platforms. Thanks so much. Take