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Saint Paul writes in Ephesians
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in 31:32 in the New American
Standard Bible, therefore, ridding

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yourselves of falsehood, speak
truth, each one of you with his neighbor,

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because we are parts of one
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sin. Do not let the sun go
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wrath, anger, clamor and
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along with all malice. Be kind
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each other, just as God in
Christ has also forgiven you in this

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pericope of Scripture. St.
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Ephesus about what it means to
be the church. Here he's telling

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the church how to behave
towards one another. After this section,

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he's going to go on to discuss
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treat one another, parents to
children, husbands and wives, that

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kind of stuff. Brandon Knight
how can we today better and practically

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learn to speak truth, have a
healthy relationship with anger,

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and still forgive one another
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here?

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I mean, being angry and
sinning, not, as some translations

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put it, is like the million
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like something that Christians
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time trying to do. I would say
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and would be, I think we would
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less outbursts of sinful anger
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one another, that we may have
seek opportunities to sit with one

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another and to actually
discuss rather than relying upon

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stereotypes or misinformation
that we might know about other Christians

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and instead actually like
embrace community and rather than

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just trying to wave our flags
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this is. And I'm angry because
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Yeah, good work. Also
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and do not sin and then
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also get rid of all anger. Hey
guys, welcome to the whole Church

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podcast podcast. Possibly your
favorite church unity podcast on

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possibly your favorite random
Christian podcast network of some

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friends that like to hang out
with each other on occasion and complain

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about Josh mostly. I'm Josh.

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Amen.

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I'm Josh, one of the co hosts
of this show. Missing the co host

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with the absolute most TJ
Tiberious Juan Blackwell, also known

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as Pod Almighty. I think his
New Year's resolution was to make

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me suffer slightly more. So
I'm recovering from a flu or something

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and he's setting this one out.
But I'm here with two wonderful gentlemen

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who are going to help me
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they're also podcast experts.
Yeah, yeah. The one and only Brandon

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Knight you heard discussing
the verse a little bit earlier. He

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is the host of my Seminary
life, as well as Kung Fu Pizza Party,

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as well as the father to the
one and only producer Cooper. Yeah,

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Yeah. So, Pastor Sensei,
Brandon, good to have you. And we

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are also here with someone
who's master, another person who's

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mastered the divine itself,
the one and only Christian Ashley.

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He's also learned from Will
the powers of the magic head. Yeah.

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Welcome, Christian. Oh,
Christian's also the host of 1700

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podcasts, let nothing Move
you. He's one of the hosts of Systematic

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Ecology. Brandon used to a
host of Systematic Ecology. I am

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a host of Systematic Ecology.
TJ is a host of Systematic Ecology.

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Will is a host. We're not
going to do this, but Christian also

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host why I don't like Friday
night frights. Some other things.

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I think I can't keep up with
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considering one more. Yeah,
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don't know, I occasionally do
one that's be living water that for

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a long time was dummy for
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after hours and both of those
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So we'll be discussing all of
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what the network is. Some
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added to the network are being
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I'm just glad we both got to
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church unity is all about. So
with that said, guys, consider going

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to our website, purchasing one
of our T shirts. It helps promote

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our show, it helps raise some
money for podcasting needs, and it

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lets other people know about
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educate and unite the modern
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is one I like to suggest it's
I like the green shade, but there's

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several different colors. The
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has the Irish Trinity nod, has
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it says one church, one God.
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for you guys. Check it out.
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when I wore my Systematic
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Throw it on, so I need one of
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What? Will's cooler than me?
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all on the network, remember
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The link is in the show's
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I always put that link down
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of these shows we're talking
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like this, or whichever one I
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to mention the homily because
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so long, you could still find
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I forgot to say it. So,
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to jump into the most
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course is silliness. Yeah,
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you more bonded than just
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was just too serious for this
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if you could retroactively
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for 2025 to do something that
you already achieved. That way you

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could just kind of feel good
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in that resolution. What would
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Brandon, you know, whenever
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these episodes, I always check
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I going to be asked the Bible
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guard before by that. And what
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of the notes. I have to know,
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to talk or. And what is the
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finish in fourth place at
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Man, I'm just so proud of you
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go last. Save the best for
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beat three video games that
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this year, so I got through
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all of the Jack of Daxter
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was some random indie game I
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the main campaign for Planet
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be my third one. Planet Zoo is
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is your retroactive 2025 New
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because I hadn't done so in
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or is this the same thing? I
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I'll do one more episode of
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did great at those New Year's
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up with in time. So let's
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there's probably around for
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get a lot of new listeners
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are some people that this is
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to you guys. I'm sure this has
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with some intros for those
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whole church much before. Or
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Just kind of let everybody
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Christian go first. Who you
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got involved with us of all
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someone's first episode. So
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your first episode and Joshua
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all love each other, we're all
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that, we actually do enjoy
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Ashley. I grew up in the
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had me on a Tuesday, I was in
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in the church ever since. I
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old, after one particular
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me about what the pastor was
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what I thought about sin and
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I realized that we didn't have
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understands what they're
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my heart. I got baptized the
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church ever since. Even in my
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you can be lone wolf
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I would still get stuff done.
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the wrong to do that, got back
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leaders, so on and so forth.
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is I met him in college and.
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well. And then he left me
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man that he is. But, you know,
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some growing to do, as it
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out of touch, I had never
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we have to date things this
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was in the midst of COVID
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you're getting old. Like me,
early onset Alzheimer's hits pretty

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hard at 35. And I had reached
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really enjoying what you're
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very big in my heart. And
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that you reach conclusions on,
but it's nice to hear your voice

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again and it's nice, you know,
you're doing something like this.

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I appreciate the effort. It's
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to be on the show? Like you're
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next thing I know, like, two
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like I'm someone important.
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The shows I run on NSL Podcast
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That's my Bible podcast. I go
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I've done all the Pentateuch,
I've done Luke, Romans, and I'm about

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to finish up Matthew. I'll be
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after this. I also do Friday
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host with me there. That's
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fantastical stuff of the
world. You know, you're like, Ness

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Monster, Mothman, Did King
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so on, so forth. Then I do why
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I discuss media that I'm not
too fond of. And, you know, I explain,

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you know, why I think it's not
good. Like, how I think things might

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be better, but also, like, not
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trashing and say, if you like
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to air my feelings out
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else. And then finally, I'm on
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is like 50 billion hosts now.
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every other episode, it feels
like, because, hey. Oh, someone wasn't

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able to make it. Oh, Christian
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I didn't know you actually saw
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Oh, no. I usually, I think
people just, like, jump in a group

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chat or, like, who's
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telling you is he's like, I
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And he just says that to every
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good stuff. I'll show you a
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want to go ahead and hear from
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sporting a beer that nice, you
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know.

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I did not know that part of
the lore, Christian, about how you

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and Josh were connected. Glad
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it's also nice to know,
Christian, that you took my job at

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Systematic Ecology of the one
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That's our lot in life.

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he has a magic head now, so I
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Yep, magic. Hi, my name is.
What? Okay, so I'm Brandon Knight.

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I am the host of my seminary
life and Kung Fu Pizza party. I came

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to know pretty similar
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to south to the salvific
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as savior when I was a little
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home was homeschooled. Went to
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very sheltered at one point in
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Even angelical charges. When
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Rubin and other great CCM from
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kind of pivoted from having
the correct answer and doing the

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correct things as. As my faith
in God to a more relationally focused.

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Relationally focused
relationship. Boy, you. That's a

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great way to get people
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More relationally driven
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I was in college also started
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Had pretty much grown up
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in the reformed kind of camp
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Thankfully converted. So
that's me. My faith background a

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little bit kind of like more.
More relationally with my faith in

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God. Now I have two shows. I
started my seminary life just before

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I met Josh. Josh posted in a
Christian podcaster group. We used

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to both be a part of that. He
was casting hosts for a deep theology

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show and I was like, yeah,
that sounds like something I would

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do. So sent over an episode
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Tolkien. Little did I know
that was the correct answer to persuade.

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Get you to like him. So if you
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Systematic Ecology, you'll
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wrestling and Sonic the
Hedgehog. Josh and I talking about

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Bob's Burgers and how I met
your mother, Will and TJ and I reviewing

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the original. The first. Not
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Dune movie of the trilogy. And
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episodes from when I returned
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I think one of the first ones
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know if you remember this.
Talking about the. The fan fiction

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fan theory, that being said,
is a dart. Oh, yeah, yeah. I completely

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forgot about that until I was
thinking about doing this episode

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and what I wanted to say. So,
yeah, my seminary life started when

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I went back to seminary to
finish my master's degree. I have

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not. I'm going to correct the
correct, Josh. I have not mastered

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divinity. I have mastered art.
I have a master of arts in church

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ministry. That's fine. I just
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know, stolen valor there. I
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art. But what is art but all
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itself. Anyway. So started out
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my journey through finishing
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become this show where I talk
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as a I am the lifelong student
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an institution to continue to
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is for everyone is what one of
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so the show more so just
covers like, okay, I've been reading

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this book. I've been studying
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to these podcasts and these
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and want to share with you
all. Kung Fu Pizza Party is completely

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different. It is a show where
I promise to deliver high flying

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action in 30 minutes or less
and serve up some wisdom one slice

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at a time. Primarily through
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martial art media, but more so
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So talk about everything from
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some like, not necessarily
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Like, I did a review of the
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I covered the first two
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you know, what is naturally
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to like, talk about. Usually
it's a. It's not like strictly like

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a faith show. Like, I'm not
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every Bruce Lee movie, but
rather just kind of like, what are

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the moral implications of what
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Yeah. You are though gonna
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teaching us kung fu, right? I
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I just saw the other day and I
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an actual anime. I'll let
Christian help me with this one.

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Watches more anime than I do.
It was Jesus playing tennis and it

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was anime style. And his
partner next to him was like, Jesus,

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this match point depends on
you. And he says, I did not come

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here to be served. And then he
serves the thing and like spikes

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it and he's like, but to
serve. It was all anime. I don't

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know if that's a real one or
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Yeah, that thing that I gave me.

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Love.

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That definitely sounds like
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time for the sake of a joke.
And I love it for it.

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Yeah, yeah, that, that very
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If that's the case. Like, they
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Yeah. Also I, I do want to say
with Kung Fu pizza party, the 30

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minutes or less thing, he
started adding challenges. If he

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goes over 30 minutes. And I
don't think I've been invited back

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as a guest since he started
that. So.

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Because invited you, we just
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Wait, I haven't broken it yet.

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No.

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And you know how much I love talking.

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Yeah.

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But to be fair, in the
opposite of defending Christian,

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when he was tasked to do a 20
minute episode, like little bonus

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for Christmas, he did record
our longest episode of Systematic

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Ecology.

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You gave two episodes to cover
and you knew better.

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Oh, but I'm going throw out
another random thing here. Since

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you mentioned the Darth Jar
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Darth Jar Jar tattoo that she
got recently, like this year.

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I don't know your wife, but of
course she does. It's great.

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It's fantastic.

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Adds up somehow.

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It's just. It's wonderful.
Okay. For myself, I'm gonna try and

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do this quickly because
hopefully people just know they can

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listen to other episodes and
learn more about the hosts. But.

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Came to Faith really fun fact.
I came to Faith Really Young with.

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I don't remember if it was
children's church or what it was,

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but the teacher was Ms.
Christie. And later on when I got

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like re baptized and like
rededicated my life to the Lord,

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it was also thanks to someone
else named Ms. Christie, but not

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the same person. Just, you
know, fun fact. But yeah, so really

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young. Traveled a lot, felt
the call to ministry fairly on fighting

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it. Still fighting it. Like
currently I'm fighting that, I think.

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But like, I don't want to do
that. Come on.

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You know, transparency is
good, I think. Grew up in a Pentecostal

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home, but I have some family
members who are Catholics who I had

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like a lot of, you know,
witnessed a lot of tension, saw some

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of that kind of like making
fun of Catholics or Baptists buying

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each other's backs kind of
stuff here and there. Heard a lot

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of Catholics aren't really
Christian, Baptists aren't really

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Christian. Etc then I went to
college and met some Catholics and

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Baptists and we're like, ah,
this isn't adding up. They're giving

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me free food and seem to talk
about Jesus a lot. And I like both

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of those things quite a bit.
So I started caring more about just

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the idea of like other
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I got really curious when I
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I've been fed wasn't
completely accurate but never really

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crossed the line. Just was
like curious about other, other things.

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And then really bad accident
in 2016 kind of derailed all of my

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I'm gonna do ministry and also
be a full time chemist or something

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and just do everything because
I'm awesome track. And then realized,

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oh, hey, I could just get hit
by a truck. Maybe that really humbles

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you pretty quickly.

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So there's that Joshua's
person your pastor warned you about.

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You know, if you leave this
church, you run over.

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That's true. And that's what
happened. It wasn't until after that

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I ended up leaving the church.
I was at. I had a point in my life,

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various reasons I tried to
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But at the time it was more of
a I was mad at God and didn't want

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to believe. So I just tried to
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And the term deconstruction
wasn't really a thing yet, so it

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was more just me, I'm mad and
want to not believe this thing. And

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then naturally, I found a lot
of things that contradicted each

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other in the Bible and was
like, ah. For some reason, I'm still

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not satisfied. I don't. I
don't know. I feel like I found the

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key and I should be like, I'm
done with this. But then I just wasn't.

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Ended up stumbling onto, like,
Pete Inn's books, some different

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stuff, and going, okay, maybe
there's different ways to read the

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Bible, different ways to think
about my faith. And now I'm kind

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of a weird mixed mud of a
bunch of different ideas. And I make

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progressive Christians mad and
conservative Christians mad. And

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everybody's just mad. But they
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run a church unity podcast. So
there's that. So I have. That's.

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the whole church podcast
started off as I thought it would

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just be easy to have a nice,
nice little unity podcast. What an

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easy topic. It's not. We've
learned that if you've been on listening

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to the show for a while,
you've also learned that with us,

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we've had people straight up
say unity was a bad idea at least

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once on the show. So, you
know, it could be a challenge. But

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we've learned a lot about
unity as we've done this since, what,

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2019, 2018 or something? We
had other podcasts and stuff before

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then. This is kind of the one
that stuck. And I met a lot of cool

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people, like Christian. Oh,
I've known Christian, but Christian's

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been on the show. We've
rekindled our. Our friendship through

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this. I met him because of
Killer Bunnies and Doctor who don't

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ask Questions, but we need. I
need to regather myself. But we met

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Will through that. A bunch of
other people through this. Will was

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really cool and talked about
comic book stuff, and I was like,

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hey, man, I wish I could get
this guy to start a comic book show.

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And I couldn't convince him to
start a podcast. So instead I had

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to create another podcast and
have him in it. And then I auditioned

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other people and was like, if
I get a big enough crowd, I won't

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have to do that much. And I
could still hear Will talk about

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comics. And it worked, and now
it turned into something completely

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different that's this whole
huge, like systematic ecology is

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almost like a network within
the network with all the different,

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like series and different
things that we do over there and

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like 14 different hosts. And
it's crazy, but we try to cover all

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of pop culture that we can
from various faith traditions over

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there. We still have whole
church here talking about church

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unity. I've also done. I
started Dummy for Theology, which

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was me originally just going
over big theological ideas that people

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have disagreed about for like
centuries and then going, hey, here's

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the different things. I don't
know an answer. I'm just giving you

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guys different things and what
the implications are, depending on

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which side you take of the
issue. I try to run it as a regular

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podcast. That didn't work
because I'm very adhd, which you

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guys probably can tell. Strict
schedules are hard for me, especially

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when I'm trying to do
something on my own. I try to create

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something a little bit more
genuine. So I re released it as be

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Living Water. And I even said,
hey, there's not going to be a strict

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release schedule anymore. And
to prove it, I haven't released anything

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since, so. So there's that.
Then. I do some of the voice work

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00:27:39,176 --> 00:27:41,536
for a friend of mine who
writes like scripts and does something

428
00:27:41,536 --> 00:27:45,376
for. It's called the Bible
After Hours, which is just kind of

429
00:27:45,376 --> 00:27:48,296
a more progressive reading of
the Bible and going through scripture

430
00:27:48,296 --> 00:27:53,016
kind of stuff, which I think
that show. It's done Leviticus. It's

431
00:27:53,016 --> 00:27:56,556
done some other random just
Bible here and there. Wait, no, it

432
00:27:56,556 --> 00:28:02,076
didn't do Leviticus. Christian
did Leviticus. It did Judges. I help

433
00:28:02,076 --> 00:28:06,156
with too many things. It did
Judges. It did some of Gospels. I

434
00:28:06,156 --> 00:28:09,996
think in Psalms. It's been for
like forever and probably not anymore.

435
00:28:09,996 --> 00:28:13,036
I'm just tired of. I don't
want to hear him talk to me about

436
00:28:13,036 --> 00:28:15,556
Psalms anymore. I think that's
the problem. If I'm helping you on

437
00:28:15,556 --> 00:28:19,276
a project and I get bored,
project kind of stops happening.

438
00:28:20,326 --> 00:28:26,486
Don't let me get bored. I'm
like a puppy. So I think that covers

439
00:28:26,486 --> 00:28:28,966
the gambit of things I know
of. For those who want to know about

440
00:28:28,966 --> 00:28:33,446
tj, also very similar to all
of our stories, Got saved Young grew

441
00:28:33,446 --> 00:28:36,646
up in the Pentecostal Church.
He has changed his views on a lot

442
00:28:36,646 --> 00:28:38,846
of things, but he is still
with his church because that's his

443
00:28:38,846 --> 00:28:39,606
church, you know.

444
00:28:40,006 --> 00:28:43,286
Yeah, it's a very TJ thing.

445
00:28:43,606 --> 00:28:44,086
Yeah.

446
00:28:44,166 --> 00:28:50,906
Yes, it's very TJ Again, if
this is your first time. Yeah.

447
00:28:51,306 --> 00:28:54,946
I think his bio when I asked
him to Write a bio for the whole

448
00:28:54,946 --> 00:29:03,626
church. Literally was. I was
born, I live. Yeah. And I. You know,

449
00:29:03,626 --> 00:29:06,786
it's pretty accurate. I met TJ
at a church camp. I was one of his

450
00:29:06,786 --> 00:29:10,426
counselors. And want to think.
One of my favorite moments in park

451
00:29:10,426 --> 00:29:15,226
and Rec is when. Who's the guy
Chris Pratt plays in that show?

452
00:29:16,066 --> 00:29:16,546
Andy.

453
00:29:16,866 --> 00:29:17,866
Andy. Yeah, Andy.

454
00:29:17,866 --> 00:29:18,346
Andy.

455
00:29:18,346 --> 00:29:20,826
And he's talking to Rod
Swanson. He's like, come on, it's

456
00:29:20,826 --> 00:29:23,946
not weird. It's kind of like,
you used to be my camp counselor,

457
00:29:23,946 --> 00:29:27,786
but now we're like, both old.
It's cool, and we can hang out. And

458
00:29:27,786 --> 00:29:33,106
he said that. I'm like, that's
me and dj. Nice. Like, literally.

459
00:29:34,546 --> 00:29:37,506
Yeah. So am I missing
anything? Did we cover the basis

460
00:29:37,506 --> 00:29:38,226
of who we are?

461
00:29:39,346 --> 00:29:40,466
Yeah, I think we're gold.

462
00:29:40,466 --> 00:29:47,016
Okay, cool. It would help if
TJ was here. What all do we do on

463
00:29:47,016 --> 00:29:49,616
our various shows last year
that we're most proud of? Okay, that's.

464
00:29:49,616 --> 00:29:53,096
That's an easy one. Brandon,
recently you've had an episode on

465
00:29:53,096 --> 00:29:56,616
my Seminary Area life talking
about 2025. They can just go listen

466
00:29:56,616 --> 00:30:00,056
to it. But what's. What's the
short, short end of it? If you were

467
00:30:00,056 --> 00:30:00,296
just.

468
00:30:01,256 --> 00:30:06,456
The short end of it is this
year saw the return of a Lent themed

469
00:30:06,456 --> 00:30:10,996
series that I do every year or
I. I'm now going to start doing every

470
00:30:10,996 --> 00:30:15,076
year. It's called Fish
Fridays. They come out every Friday.

471
00:30:15,556 --> 00:30:23,676
So every Friday from Ash
Wednesday to Good Friday. And it

472
00:30:23,676 --> 00:30:26,636
kind of takes a different.
It's looked different every year.

473
00:30:26,636 --> 00:30:32,196
This year was more devotional
focused. Next year are we going to

474
00:30:32,196 --> 00:30:36,836
talk about stuff coming out
next year or 26 years? I'll save

475
00:30:36,836 --> 00:30:40,526
it then. The other big thing
that happened this year is I was

476
00:30:40,526 --> 00:30:46,246
really focusing on two ongoing
series, one called Rabbit Trail and

477
00:30:46,246 --> 00:30:50,326
one called Experiential
Preaching. Rabbit trail is a 10 out

478
00:30:50,326 --> 00:30:55,166
of 10 would recommend. Serious
concept by Christian Ashley. He has

479
00:30:55,246 --> 00:30:58,286
complimented it before.
Basically, instead of.

480
00:30:58,286 --> 00:30:59,486
Wait, that was Christians.

481
00:31:01,086 --> 00:31:03,646
It was his idea. I
complimented him for it.

482
00:31:04,716 --> 00:31:04,956
Yes.

483
00:31:04,956 --> 00:31:05,956
Because I love the idea.

484
00:31:05,956 --> 00:31:08,476
Oh, you're the IGN review on
the back of the book.

485
00:31:08,876 --> 00:31:09,436
Yeah.

486
00:31:09,436 --> 00:31:09,916
Yes.

487
00:31:09,916 --> 00:31:12,956
Okay, I need to put one.

488
00:31:15,596 --> 00:31:19,156
Basically how it works is that
I sit down and I talk about, hey,

489
00:31:19,156 --> 00:31:23,436
this is a 5 minute recap of
the sermon I preached recently. But

490
00:31:23,436 --> 00:31:26,396
the bulk of the episode is.
And now I'm going to tell you about

491
00:31:26,396 --> 00:31:29,756
the thing that I wish I could
have talked about during the sermon

492
00:31:30,006 --> 00:31:33,726
that I didn't have time for.
Couldn't make it fit. It's an illustration

493
00:31:33,726 --> 00:31:36,646
that I thought it would go
over people's heads. And that's.

494
00:31:36,726 --> 00:31:41,686
So you get something kind of
different. Every. Every episode there's

495
00:31:41,686 --> 00:31:45,166
one coming out here pretty
soon that's going to be. Or it may

496
00:31:45,166 --> 00:31:48,046
have come out by the time this
episode comes out. Where I'm going

497
00:31:48,046 --> 00:31:51,766
to talk about, okay, this is
when you should make an exception

498
00:31:51,926 --> 00:31:55,526
to not going down a rabbit
trail while you're preaching. And

499
00:31:55,526 --> 00:31:58,726
you know, like, okay, how do
you weigh when this is a good idea?

500
00:31:58,726 --> 00:32:02,236
Things like that. Experiential
preaching is a concept I've been

501
00:32:02,316 --> 00:32:05,716
kind of working on in my own
preaching. I'm sure other people

502
00:32:05,716 --> 00:32:08,716
have done it. I'm not going to
say I'm original in any of this,

503
00:32:09,436 --> 00:32:14,396
but basically it's during a
sermon. I'm trying to find moments

504
00:32:14,396 --> 00:32:18,636
where I can bring the
congregation into the sermon actively.

505
00:32:19,036 --> 00:32:23,596
And so that looks like more
than doing some big multimillion

506
00:32:23,596 --> 00:32:27,196
dollar stunt that mega
churches should not be doing at Christmas

507
00:32:27,196 --> 00:32:32,146
time, but they always do. Or.
And it's more than just the turn

508
00:32:32,146 --> 00:32:35,746
to your neighbor and say,
lord, greet Lord, bless you real

509
00:32:35,746 --> 00:32:38,426
good. You know, it's more than
just like the light crowd work stuff.

510
00:32:38,426 --> 00:32:44,306
You know, in times past, I've
done pausing the whole congregation

511
00:32:44,306 --> 00:32:47,386
and now we're going to have a
moment of meditation. Because the

512
00:32:47,386 --> 00:32:52,786
sermon was about meditation.
Communion, I think, is a really natural

513
00:32:52,786 --> 00:32:57,326
way to have this kind of like
living component in a sermon. So

514
00:32:57,326 --> 00:33:01,286
that was a lot of what my
seminary life was up to this year.

515
00:33:02,406 --> 00:33:09,526
The most downloaded episode of
2025 was me talking about the Breastplate

516
00:33:09,526 --> 00:33:13,766
of St. Patrick by Ren
Collective. This is an actual prayer

517
00:33:14,566 --> 00:33:19,606
that comes up in the right
around St. Patrick's Day. But Ren

518
00:33:19,606 --> 00:33:24,266
Collective did a whole song
reworking of it. And so it was a

519
00:33:24,266 --> 00:33:28,666
review I did for Fish Fridays
this year. Well, I have another show,

520
00:33:28,666 --> 00:33:32,506
duh, so I should talk about
that now too. As for Kung Fu Pizza

521
00:33:32,506 --> 00:33:38,666
Party, you know, it's a. It's
way less thematically focused, whereas

522
00:33:38,666 --> 00:33:42,466
my seminary life tries to
focus more on series. When you're

523
00:33:42,466 --> 00:33:44,906
just doing movie reviews,
sometimes it's like, okay, well,

524
00:33:44,906 --> 00:33:47,786
tonight I'm gonna watch a Jet
Li movie. Because that's what. That's

525
00:33:47,786 --> 00:33:53,106
what I'm craving is some Jet
Li. I did review every Karate Kid

526
00:33:53,106 --> 00:33:58,986
film in the run up to the new
one, Karate Kid Legends. I also,

527
00:33:59,226 --> 00:34:03,306
I was. I. Which the Karate
Kid, I have the top five because

528
00:34:03,306 --> 00:34:06,706
I was promoting on social
media. So the most downloaded episode

529
00:34:06,706 --> 00:34:12,506
of 2025 was the Karate Kid
Part 2, which featured Will Rose

530
00:34:12,506 --> 00:34:18,096
from Systematic Ecology and
then The Karate Kid 2010 which featured

531
00:34:18,096 --> 00:34:22,856
Josh here. Then I do these
sporadic episodes called Coming soon

532
00:34:22,856 --> 00:34:26,896
when I. It's a little bit more
like movie news. And I did one in

533
00:34:26,896 --> 00:34:32,376
July about the trailer that
dropped for Mortal Kombat 2. And

534
00:34:32,376 --> 00:34:35,056
also the cast listing for
Street Fighter had just come out

535
00:34:35,056 --> 00:34:38,696
and broke the Internet. Number
four was my review of the Art of

536
00:34:38,696 --> 00:34:44,065
Peace. A nice little a book
about how we shouldn't be constantly

537
00:34:44,065 --> 00:34:48,585
preparing for warfare, but
preparing but kind of like life after

538
00:34:48,585 --> 00:34:52,065
warfare and seeking out peace
in our life rather than constant

539
00:34:52,065 --> 00:34:56,025
warfare. Great little book.
Don't recommend the author. That's

540
00:34:56,025 --> 00:35:02,465
a good guy. And then number
five was the Next Karate Kid featuring

541
00:35:02,625 --> 00:35:05,825
Christian Ashley. And great
news for Christian Ashley because

542
00:35:06,726 --> 00:35:10,846
since the Karate Kid Part two
was our undisputed champion of the

543
00:35:10,846 --> 00:35:16,526
year, I'm going to re watch
and re review it when the show's

544
00:35:16,526 --> 00:35:20,046
anniversary happens in
September. And Christian was supposed

545
00:35:20,046 --> 00:35:23,406
to be on that episode
originally and scheduling didn't

546
00:35:23,406 --> 00:35:27,406
work out. And I feel so bad
for him. He went from potentially

547
00:35:27,406 --> 00:35:30,806
being on the episode. The
Karate Kid Part two is oftentimes

548
00:35:30,806 --> 00:35:34,916
considered the best one in the
franchise. He went from. He went

549
00:35:34,916 --> 00:35:38,476
from that to the one that is
typically considered the worst one

550
00:35:38,476 --> 00:35:42,756
in the franchise. The next
Karate Kid. I don't think that I

551
00:35:42,756 --> 00:35:47,636
have a bad take on that part,
but. So yeah, I did two other really

552
00:35:47,636 --> 00:35:51,356
cool specials this year with
Kung Fu Pizza Party that I'm proud

553
00:35:51,356 --> 00:35:55,436
of. One is called the Blessed
Takayama Memorial Battle Royale.

554
00:35:55,756 --> 00:36:01,436
Blessed Takayama was a
Catholic samurai who at the blessed

555
00:36:01,436 --> 00:36:05,836
status in the Catholic Church,
that means he's right before sainthood.

556
00:36:05,996 --> 00:36:08,916
So that's something that
scholars are actively working on

557
00:36:08,916 --> 00:36:12,596
to see if he performed any
miracles so he can reach the level

558
00:36:12,596 --> 00:36:19,116
of sainthood. He would be the
first individual Japanese person

559
00:36:19,436 --> 00:36:24,396
to be canonized. If that does
happen. There's been groups. I don't

560
00:36:24,396 --> 00:36:29,426
know how all this works. Like
niche. I don't know how directly

561
00:36:29,426 --> 00:36:32,866
all of this works, but there's
been like groups of Japanese people

562
00:36:32,866 --> 00:36:36,106
who have been canonized
before. This would be the first time

563
00:36:36,106 --> 00:36:41,866
someone individually who is
Japanese would be canonized. So once

564
00:36:41,866 --> 00:36:44,626
you hit that blessed status,
you could start naming things after

565
00:36:44,626 --> 00:36:51,506
them. So I named this special
event where basically I pick out

566
00:36:51,506 --> 00:36:56,426
30 movies and I use a random
number generator and I eliminate

567
00:36:56,426 --> 00:37:00,426
them. And I have to keep
talking while I'm doing this. So

568
00:37:00,426 --> 00:37:02,666
I'm just riffing the whole
time because you're not supposed

569
00:37:02,666 --> 00:37:05,986
to have dead air because then
I have to edit it or not edit it.

570
00:37:05,986 --> 00:37:09,626
And I should edit it better so
I'm just riffing the whole time.

571
00:37:09,866 --> 00:37:14,506
And then whatever movie won,
which was the Clones of Bruce Lee.

572
00:37:14,506 --> 00:37:18,786
No nuance. That's the name of
the movie, that one. So then I had

573
00:37:18,786 --> 00:37:22,186
to rewatch and re review it.
And that is going to happen again

574
00:37:23,286 --> 00:37:26,606
February 3rd, which is
Takayama's feast day. So this is

575
00:37:26,606 --> 00:37:30,126
going to be an ongoing thing.
The other one I did, which I should

576
00:37:30,126 --> 00:37:33,406
definitely have Josh on
sometime, is called Drunken Fist

577
00:37:33,406 --> 00:37:37,806
Happy Hour, where I take that
30 minutes or less stipulation, put

578
00:37:37,806 --> 00:37:42,446
it to the side and just hang
out and have a conversation. I did

579
00:37:42,446 --> 00:37:45,886
the first one, the only one
I've done so far with Mark Flower

580
00:37:45,886 --> 00:37:49,766
from Grubbing Grace. We got
some different beers together and

581
00:37:50,256 --> 00:37:53,736
reviewed them and also paired
them up with different movies and

582
00:37:53,736 --> 00:37:57,376
talked about something that's
really important to Mark's ministry

583
00:37:57,376 --> 00:38:02,056
and his heart, which is
gathering at the table and kind of

584
00:38:02,056 --> 00:38:05,896
the community. Similar. Very
similar to what Josh is doing here.

585
00:38:05,896 --> 00:38:09,456
Just kind of a different take
on the community, the unity aspect

586
00:38:09,856 --> 00:38:13,456
of our faith. And so, yeah, I
think that's, you know, that's a

587
00:38:13,456 --> 00:38:16,666
lot of the high points for
2025 for both of my shows. Episodes,

588
00:38:16,746 --> 00:38:17,146
man.

589
00:38:17,306 --> 00:38:21,586
Yeah. I love Mark, and I love
that episode of y' all pairing with

590
00:38:21,586 --> 00:38:22,106
the beers.

591
00:38:24,346 --> 00:38:25,146
No, that was it. Yeah.

592
00:38:25,146 --> 00:38:27,706
Yeah. I thought there was a
pizza one. I thought, too.

593
00:38:28,186 --> 00:38:32,626
We did. We. We also. Yes, we
did one before I came up with this

594
00:38:32,626 --> 00:38:37,426
idea of the Drunken Fist Happy
Hour. I. We did an episode together

595
00:38:37,426 --> 00:38:40,426
the first time Mark was on the
show where we paired up, where we

596
00:38:40,586 --> 00:38:45,536
were coming up with pizzas and
pairing them up with different movies.

597
00:38:45,696 --> 00:38:49,096
And in case you've never
listened to Mark's show, you should

598
00:38:49,096 --> 00:38:54,336
go check him out. But he's a
foodie, and he's has a lot of really

599
00:38:54,896 --> 00:38:58,936
unique ideas and a lot of
unique experiences when it comes

600
00:38:58,936 --> 00:39:02,656
to food. So I'm over here
picking out, like, Domino's, and

601
00:39:02,656 --> 00:39:07,376
he's got, like, this top shelf
with brie and gouda and all this

602
00:39:07,376 --> 00:39:09,856
kind of stuff. I'm like, man,
this guy knows his stuff.

603
00:39:10,016 --> 00:39:13,976
It was so funny because he's
like, okay, a pizza with a black

604
00:39:13,976 --> 00:39:19,676
garlic. And I'm like, I just
want to try these pizzas, man. Yeah.

605
00:39:20,556 --> 00:39:24,076
But then, like, the Chicago
expert, too. That was a good one.

606
00:39:24,556 --> 00:39:26,876
All right, Christian, same question.

607
00:39:29,436 --> 00:39:33,516
So on. Let nothing move you. I
started off the year in numbers,

608
00:39:33,596 --> 00:39:36,836
and then I finished off the
rest of the Pentateuch that I had

609
00:39:36,836 --> 00:39:40,556
started the year before. I had
a great time with that one. Then

610
00:39:40,876 --> 00:39:44,136
I decided one of the things
instead of As I was going through

611
00:39:44,136 --> 00:39:47,296
the schedule, because I go
book by book, I realized, do I really

612
00:39:47,296 --> 00:39:50,456
want to do, since I started
with Luke, do I want to do Matthew,

613
00:39:50,456 --> 00:39:54,776
Mark and then John back to
back to back? Not really. So what

614
00:39:54,776 --> 00:39:57,496
I wanted to do instead is
like, when we reach like a natural

615
00:39:57,496 --> 00:40:00,696
ending to like, you know,
Pentateuch by itself, let's go to

616
00:40:00,696 --> 00:40:03,976
a gospel, historical books,
let's go to the next gospel, then

617
00:40:03,976 --> 00:40:06,056
go through all the poetry,
wisdom books, then we can finish

618
00:40:06,056 --> 00:40:08,776
off with John and then I can
go to the rest of the New Testament.

619
00:40:08,776 --> 00:40:12,816
It's obviously years and years
down the road, but I do like to plan

620
00:40:13,586 --> 00:40:18,346
somewhat for parts of that. So
normally I'd have other people with

621
00:40:18,346 --> 00:40:21,226
me, I'd ask a couple people to
go in, but I wanted to be selfish.

622
00:40:21,226 --> 00:40:25,346
I want the Gospels for myself.
And one of the parts of that was

623
00:40:25,346 --> 00:40:29,546
because I just wanted to focus
in on what I was thinking about them

624
00:40:29,546 --> 00:40:33,506
and how could I properly
represent what is Jesus saying in

625
00:40:33,506 --> 00:40:36,506
here as best as possible? I
say, like, everyone here assembled

626
00:40:36,506 --> 00:40:39,946
would have terrible takes
always, and I'd never listen to them

627
00:40:39,946 --> 00:40:42,546
again, never want them back.
But like, I just wanted to like,

628
00:40:42,546 --> 00:40:46,146
narrow the focus solely on
where I was going. And that was a

629
00:40:46,146 --> 00:40:51,266
good choice because most of
them have been over an hour and some

630
00:40:51,266 --> 00:40:54,426
of them have been almost, some
of them beyond two hours. And that's

631
00:40:54,426 --> 00:40:58,666
just me talking. So God forbid
I bring someone else into that fold,

632
00:40:58,826 --> 00:41:02,066
you know, because other people
have this thing called a life and

633
00:41:02,066 --> 00:41:06,426
I'd rather not ruin theirs.
So, yeah, I'm about to finish up

634
00:41:06,426 --> 00:41:11,066
Matthew at this stage. Matthew
26 just released. I've got two more,

635
00:41:11,066 --> 00:41:13,826
then I'm going in the book of
Joshua and then I'll be bringing

636
00:41:13,826 --> 00:41:16,486
back more people on, you know,
to get there takes and everything

637
00:41:16,486 --> 00:41:19,086
that's happening as we go
through the historical books of the

638
00:41:19,086 --> 00:41:23,966
Bible. Let's see then for
Friday night frights. This is the

639
00:41:23,966 --> 00:41:29,686
year where Joe actually joined
me. I have been in the past put on

640
00:41:29,686 --> 00:41:32,326
Facebook on the Systematic
Ecology page because I'm too lazy

641
00:41:32,326 --> 00:41:35,366
to make my own page for
anything because I don't market.

642
00:41:35,606 --> 00:41:38,806
That's not me. That's about as
close as I get as posting a poll.

643
00:41:39,046 --> 00:41:43,166
And he had put like, hey, if
Mothman wins, I want on. I'm like,

644
00:41:43,166 --> 00:41:48,086
you know what? Sure. And you
know, it's nice not having to fill

645
00:41:48,086 --> 00:41:50,886
in empty space by continuing
to talk because eventually I run

646
00:41:50,886 --> 00:41:53,926
out of breath. And it's nice
to have someone like Joe along for

647
00:41:53,926 --> 00:41:57,406
the ride because surprise,
surprise, Joe and I Don't always

648
00:41:57,406 --> 00:42:02,886
agree on everything. So it was
an absolute delight to have him come

649
00:42:02,886 --> 00:42:05,726
on. And he has fantastical
ideas I think are stupid.

650
00:42:05,886 --> 00:42:06,246
He.

651
00:42:06,246 --> 00:42:10,286
I have fantastical ideas he
thinks are stupid. And yet this unholy

652
00:42:10,286 --> 00:42:12,556
marriage has happened, and we
love each other at the end of the

653
00:42:12,556 --> 00:42:15,716
day, and we get to discuss the
same things and have fun with them.

654
00:42:17,076 --> 00:42:20,796
I'm especially proud of one
episode that I was, like, born to

655
00:42:20,796 --> 00:42:24,076
hate just by the very nature
of what it is. And that was the whole

656
00:42:24,076 --> 00:42:27,676
hellier docu series that Joe
decided to do. And he knew I would

657
00:42:27,676 --> 00:42:30,716
hate it going in, so I didn't
want to give him the satisfaction.

658
00:42:30,716 --> 00:42:33,796
And yet I did at the end of
the day, and we had a good conversation

659
00:42:33,796 --> 00:42:36,676
based on, okay, why do we both
not, like, what's going on here?

660
00:42:37,196 --> 00:42:39,516
What could be done to improve
it, but, like, what's also behind,

661
00:42:39,516 --> 00:42:42,476
you know, actual stories of,
you know, some of these sightings?

662
00:42:43,596 --> 00:42:48,156
That was super fun to do then.
On why I don't like the easiest one

663
00:42:48,156 --> 00:42:53,156
yet. I released one episode a
couple of days ago, and I finished

664
00:42:53,156 --> 00:43:00,276
season one of Mushoku Tensei.
That is the show that has immense

665
00:43:00,276 --> 00:43:04,156
promise but terrible
execution. And that's why I don't

666
00:43:04,156 --> 00:43:06,476
like it. So there's that.

667
00:43:06,556 --> 00:43:09,596
That was my least favorite
episode of why I don't like this

668
00:43:09,596 --> 00:43:09,916
year.

669
00:43:11,676 --> 00:43:13,276
Excellent, Christian.

670
00:43:13,596 --> 00:43:18,876
We should do a crossover. I've
already watched it, but you should

671
00:43:18,876 --> 00:43:23,796
watch Ninja Vengeance. That
one I did for Ninja Vengeance. Ninja

672
00:43:23,796 --> 00:43:27,156
Vengeance? Yeah, that was the
one I did for International Ninja

673
00:43:27,156 --> 00:43:29,786
Day. I was very sad that you didn't.

674
00:43:30,096 --> 00:43:32,336
Think it was great because,
like, the name sounds like something

675
00:43:32,336 --> 00:43:33,136
I want to love.

676
00:43:34,496 --> 00:43:38,336
Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah. It's
exactly what Christian just said

677
00:43:38,416 --> 00:43:42,576
of has a lot of promise. It's
a movie about a ninja going up against

678
00:43:42,576 --> 00:43:46,976
the Ku Klux Klan. Of course.
That should be great. And it just

679
00:43:47,456 --> 00:43:48,976
majorly drops the ball.

680
00:43:49,136 --> 00:43:52,176
I loved your episode. Talking
about that movie I never watched.

681
00:43:52,416 --> 00:43:55,296
Also, I get a lot of
entertainment listening to these

682
00:43:55,296 --> 00:43:58,376
things, and most of the movies
you talk about on Kung Fu Pizza Party

683
00:43:58,376 --> 00:44:01,876
I've never seen, but I love
your reviews. It makes me feel like

684
00:44:01,876 --> 00:44:02,636
I've seen them.

685
00:44:04,236 --> 00:44:06,316
Oh, good. I guess that's good
to know at least.

686
00:44:07,036 --> 00:44:08,716
You know what, Brandon? I'm up
to doing that.

687
00:44:08,876 --> 00:44:09,676
Okay, Cool.

688
00:44:10,236 --> 00:44:13,116
Nice. Oh, man. Yeah.

689
00:44:13,836 --> 00:44:17,516
Then I suppose I'll talk about
that indie podcast, Systematic Ecology.

690
00:44:18,956 --> 00:44:23,036
I had a lot of fun this year.
It was tiring at times. I was getting

691
00:44:23,036 --> 00:44:25,556
done with seminary, and there
were times like, do I want to stop

692
00:44:25,556 --> 00:44:27,716
doing this? Because it's
taking up time. It was also like,

693
00:44:27,716 --> 00:44:32,096
I have a lot of fun doing
this. I don't want to leave. I stuck

694
00:44:32,096 --> 00:44:36,616
with it. We had a ton of great
episodes this year. I mean, I can't

695
00:44:36,696 --> 00:44:40,096
list them all. I mean, I had a
great time with Kevin doing what

696
00:44:40,096 --> 00:44:43,776
if Leia had Trained Ben Solo
instead, where I redeemed the sequel

697
00:44:43,776 --> 00:44:46,896
trilogy from being the
absolute abysmal dumpster fire that

698
00:44:46,896 --> 00:44:51,376
it is alongside him. You can
boo me all you want. I'm right at

699
00:44:51,376 --> 00:44:56,576
the end of the day. Let's see.
I had a great time discussing the

700
00:44:56,576 --> 00:45:01,736
super Jertastic films with,
once again, Kevin and Will and Andy

701
00:45:02,216 --> 00:45:05,756
Josh, and did a great episode
where we did our favorite companions

702
00:45:05,756 --> 00:45:06,676
of Doctor who.

703
00:45:07,876 --> 00:45:08,276
It.

704
00:45:08,436 --> 00:45:12,076
I mean, it's. There's not a
lot. I mean, I remember doing them,

705
00:45:12,076 --> 00:45:14,196
but I can't remember, like,
everything I've been in because I've

706
00:45:14,196 --> 00:45:17,116
been in a lot, so I can't,
like, list them all off. We'll be

707
00:45:17,116 --> 00:45:21,396
here all day. So, yeah, I
really enjoyed doing that. Now, like,

708
00:45:21,476 --> 00:45:25,956
my top five downloaded. I
didn't write that down because it's

709
00:45:25,956 --> 00:45:28,396
not that I'm don't like
numbers. It's that I don't think

710
00:45:28,396 --> 00:45:31,396
to look at them. But I did at
least look at, like, the top two

711
00:45:32,036 --> 00:45:36,546
for let nothing move. You
know, that was Deuteronomy 32, which

712
00:45:36,546 --> 00:45:39,906
was with Joshua, where we
discussed some of what Dr. Heiser

713
00:45:39,906 --> 00:45:43,746
had done as well. And the
reason that number was so high, because

714
00:45:43,746 --> 00:45:46,186
it crossed over the whole
church, which has more, you know,

715
00:45:46,186 --> 00:45:47,546
people listening than my show.

716
00:45:49,306 --> 00:45:55,386
I'm sorry. Just because we've
been on so long. Like, I really think

717
00:45:55,386 --> 00:45:58,666
it's just that consistency of
TJ always being here.

718
00:46:00,876 --> 00:46:04,316
No one's gonna listen to this
episode because TJ's not here.

719
00:46:04,316 --> 00:46:06,076
They're like, where's TJ?

720
00:46:07,116 --> 00:46:08,676
We're officially wasting our time.

721
00:46:08,676 --> 00:46:09,596
We're gonna keep going.

722
00:46:11,276 --> 00:46:15,316
And I think my next Highest
one was Matthew 2. And suspiciously,

723
00:46:15,316 --> 00:46:18,436
that kind of happened around
this Christmas season because I had

724
00:46:18,436 --> 00:46:25,356
released that last year. So.
You know what? I'll take the W. Yeah.

725
00:46:25,996 --> 00:46:30,016
It's funny because Systematic
Ecology, depending on what metric

726
00:46:30,016 --> 00:46:34,336
you look at, has three
different top downloaded episode.

727
00:46:35,776 --> 00:46:41,016
Spotify thinks it was Will's
episode with John Hendrix when they

728
00:46:41,016 --> 00:46:47,336
were talking about the. Let's
see, he didn't do the Bonhoeffer.

729
00:46:47,336 --> 00:46:51,096
He did the Mythmakers. Yeah.
With Lewis and. Yeah. I had to look.

730
00:46:51,096 --> 00:46:54,226
Turn around and look at the
name of the book, which was great.

731
00:46:55,976 --> 00:47:00,296
Where we actually get most of
our numbers from our hosting platform

732
00:47:00,696 --> 00:47:04,896
seems to Think it's Must We
Attack the Cyclones Again? An episode

733
00:47:04,896 --> 00:47:11,096
that you released last year
with Tripolar that was a primarily

734
00:47:11,096 --> 00:47:16,216
political episode. And then
Google Analytics, for some reason

735
00:47:16,216 --> 00:47:20,296
they it thinks that our top
episode was what's News episode.

736
00:47:21,096 --> 00:47:24,136
I think you were also on
talking about Peacemaker, Strange

737
00:47:24,136 --> 00:47:27,576
New Worlds and some other
stuff. Yes. So who knows what the

738
00:47:27,576 --> 00:47:29,336
top episode of Systematic
Ecology was?

739
00:47:29,656 --> 00:47:32,216
I did look at the Friday night
fright numbers out of curiosity,

740
00:47:32,216 --> 00:47:36,616
and it was like the. Did King
Arthur exist? It was one of those

741
00:47:36,616 --> 00:47:39,496
where Joe was convinced we
would be talking for like 10 minutes

742
00:47:39,496 --> 00:47:42,256
and yet he forgot who he was
dealing with. And we talked for almost

743
00:47:42,256 --> 00:47:42,696
an hour.

744
00:47:42,936 --> 00:47:50,456
Yeah, take that. Oh, man. So
no whole church. We do got some consistency

745
00:47:50,456 --> 00:47:54,776
here. The only one. Google
told me something else. I don't remember

746
00:47:54,776 --> 00:47:59,656
what it told me, but both
Spotify and our hosting platform

747
00:47:59,656 --> 00:48:04,056
thinks it was our episode with
Dr. Beth Allison, Dr. Beth Allison

748
00:48:04,056 --> 00:48:07,856
Barr. So our episode with her
was number one according to Spotify

749
00:48:07,856 --> 00:48:11,936
and Google, which was cool. I
think I really liked the series we

750
00:48:11,936 --> 00:48:14,616
did on Whole Church this year
where we did the job fair, talking

751
00:48:14,616 --> 00:48:17,686
to people just about how their
faith helps in their regular day

752
00:48:17,686 --> 00:48:21,166
jobs. And then we did a
science fair that wasn't planned,

753
00:48:21,486 --> 00:48:23,726
but I really like how that
worked out. The science fair was,

754
00:48:23,726 --> 00:48:27,526
of course, building up to your
Matter Matters, a podcast with in

755
00:48:27,526 --> 00:48:31,046
association with the ELCA that
Pastor Will Rose is going to be creating

756
00:48:31,046 --> 00:48:33,886
and I'm going to help edit and
it's going to be up here on the network

757
00:48:34,126 --> 00:48:42,096
soon. So it'll be ELCA slash
on the podcast. Podcast. Yeah. Trying

758
00:48:42,096 --> 00:48:44,856
to think what it was. So I did
say this magnet, whole church, I

759
00:48:44,856 --> 00:48:47,456
don't know the top ones for
the other ones barely released anything.

760
00:48:47,456 --> 00:48:50,016
So it was probably when I did
the name change and people were like,

761
00:48:50,016 --> 00:48:56,176
hey, what's that for? Be
Living Water. Yeah. Yeah. I really

762
00:48:56,176 --> 00:48:59,896
don't know about the Bible
after hours, but I could look. It

763
00:48:59,896 --> 00:49:03,896
probably wouldn't be hard to
look. Let's see. I'll look at Spotify

764
00:49:03,896 --> 00:49:07,496
because that one's always
easy. But yeah, I like the series

765
00:49:07,496 --> 00:49:10,456
we did on the whole church. I
like the different things we did

766
00:49:10,456 --> 00:49:14,036
on Systematic Ecology. So we
always have like an annual theme

767
00:49:14,276 --> 00:49:17,196
and usually it's really just
an extra series that we do. So this

768
00:49:17,196 --> 00:49:20,916
year it was. The theme was
supposed to be polarization and the

769
00:49:20,916 --> 00:49:24,316
series was like Finding the
Good. But I feel like for a couple

770
00:49:24,316 --> 00:49:27,156
of these, we did these like
mashup or Versus films, like what

771
00:49:27,156 --> 00:49:31,596
we did for Halloween where
like monster mashups and I Like how

772
00:49:31,596 --> 00:49:33,596
it played into the annual
theme. So we started treating the

773
00:49:33,596 --> 00:49:38,316
theme more like a theme and
instead of just a series. So I'm

774
00:49:38,316 --> 00:49:44,156
hoping that we see more of
that in 2026 for systematic ecology.

775
00:49:44,396 --> 00:49:49,436
I. Oh, there's not even a top
episode. There's not enough downloads

776
00:49:49,596 --> 00:49:54,476
for the Bible After Hours to
know. Yeah, that's why.

777
00:49:55,356 --> 00:49:56,076
Gotcha.

778
00:49:56,396 --> 00:49:56,796
Nice.

779
00:49:56,796 --> 00:50:00,556
Which means everybody, you owe
the Bible After Hours a download

780
00:50:00,556 --> 00:50:00,876
today.

781
00:50:01,116 --> 00:50:01,596
Yeah.

782
00:50:02,636 --> 00:50:06,846
You always finish what you're
listening to first and then you go

783
00:50:06,926 --> 00:50:10,046
listen to something. Yeah.

784
00:50:10,046 --> 00:50:11,166
Well, it's really funny.

785
00:50:11,166 --> 00:50:13,806
Was your favorite here. I'll
just podcast those for a second.

786
00:50:13,806 --> 00:50:18,486
Josh, what is your favorite
episode since you, like, contribute

787
00:50:18,486 --> 00:50:21,646
so much to the Bible? What was
your favorite one?

788
00:50:22,046 --> 00:50:27,766
Man, I think I liked all of
the judges ones, really. I enjoyed

789
00:50:27,766 --> 00:50:30,966
except for like the last two
when there were some stuff that were

790
00:50:30,966 --> 00:50:34,686
in the script that was wrong.
And then I fumbled because I saw

791
00:50:34,686 --> 00:50:37,666
something incorrect and I was
like, I don't know how to do the

792
00:50:37,666 --> 00:50:45,026
script now. So that. That was
a struggle. But I liked some of the

793
00:50:45,026 --> 00:50:49,026
earlier ones, especially with
like, Deborah and when you get into,

794
00:50:49,026 --> 00:50:53,466
like, Gideon, I think that
that was a really fun episode to

795
00:50:53,466 --> 00:50:59,546
do. Oh, okay. Yeah, yeah. So
those are fun as far as what's funny

796
00:50:59,546 --> 00:51:02,666
about that too. So whole
Church and Systematic Ecology both

797
00:51:02,666 --> 00:51:05,786
have at least 10 people that
that's their, like, in their top

798
00:51:05,786 --> 00:51:12,306
five podcasts. And I'm like,
hold up. You're telling me y' all

799
00:51:12,306 --> 00:51:15,386
have enough time to listen to
these shows that much? And we can't

800
00:51:15,386 --> 00:51:17,786
even get enough people to
listen to Bible After Hours to get

801
00:51:17,786 --> 00:51:22,466
numbers? Maybe it's because
I'm not releasing episodes. Maybe

802
00:51:22,466 --> 00:51:27,786
it's my fault. Yeah, probably.
It's fine though. Don't worry about

803
00:51:27,786 --> 00:51:30,306
it, guys. So we're gonna go
ahead and move on.

804
00:51:30,306 --> 00:51:33,246
This is going to be the year
of the Bible After Hours.

805
00:51:33,636 --> 00:51:35,476
You know what? It might. Just
because of that.

806
00:51:36,756 --> 00:51:37,796
Out of spite.

807
00:51:41,316 --> 00:51:45,316
Yeah, it was like. So there's
like 25 people for both whole church

808
00:51:45,316 --> 00:51:49,275
and SG that according to
Spotify, that were top 10 wearing

809
00:51:49,275 --> 00:51:50,996
their top 10 podcast, which is
kind of cool.

810
00:51:51,236 --> 00:51:51,956
That's cool.

811
00:51:51,956 --> 00:51:55,436
If I, you know, wasn't as
lazy, we probably would have done

812
00:51:55,436 --> 00:51:57,476
all those, like, recorded
thank yous for all those people.

813
00:51:57,476 --> 00:52:02,486
But I'm lazy. So we're gonna
go ahead and move on. What's next

814
00:52:02,486 --> 00:52:04,726
for our shows coming up in the
next year? Brandon, you already kind

815
00:52:04,726 --> 00:52:08,206
of started a little bit and I
know you're ready to go, and I'm

816
00:52:08,206 --> 00:52:11,246
coming up on time, so I need
to stop Being adhd. So, Brandon,

817
00:52:11,646 --> 00:52:12,286
what's next?

818
00:52:12,766 --> 00:52:16,006
All right, so I'll be quick
then. So when it comes to my seminary

819
00:52:16,006 --> 00:52:20,766
life, you can listen to. The
2026 preview episode has just come

820
00:52:20,766 --> 00:52:23,766
out recently. I'm kind of
keeping things under wraps a little

821
00:52:23,766 --> 00:52:29,016
bit as to what's going on on
the show in 2026, other than I have

822
00:52:29,016 --> 00:52:33,696
announced that, yes, there
will be another round of Fish Fridays.

823
00:52:33,696 --> 00:52:37,376
So that will be running from
mid February to, I think it's the

824
00:52:37,376 --> 00:52:42,536
first week of April. And this
year is called My Seminary Life Presents

825
00:52:42,616 --> 00:52:49,016
Fish Fridays the Musical. I
will elaborate. So for each week,

826
00:52:49,016 --> 00:52:52,376
I'm so excited. It's still
going to be like a little bit more

827
00:52:52,376 --> 00:52:58,206
devotional focus. But each
week I have chosen a song that I

828
00:52:58,206 --> 00:53:04,686
think connects to the themes,
the postures, the. The usual scriptures

829
00:53:04,686 --> 00:53:09,126
that come up during the Lent
season. These are gonna be praise

830
00:53:09,126 --> 00:53:15,166
songs, hymns, ccm, and then
just like regular old pop music.

831
00:53:15,166 --> 00:53:19,526
We're gonna have kind of the
gamut of things here. Only seven

832
00:53:19,526 --> 00:53:23,636
episodes, so there's probably
other great songs that aren't going

833
00:53:23,636 --> 00:53:26,916
to be represented in this
series. But I'm very excited for

834
00:53:26,916 --> 00:53:30,196
that. Other than that, I'm
keeping things kind of wrapped up.

835
00:53:30,756 --> 00:53:35,116
You're gonna have to just show
up and check it out to find out what's

836
00:53:35,116 --> 00:53:35,556
going on.

837
00:53:35,636 --> 00:53:40,436
But if anybody wants to
support any of my shows on our official

838
00:53:40,516 --> 00:53:45,116
websites for like a hundred
dollars a month, I will release my

839
00:53:45,116 --> 00:53:49,606
own episode each week. That is
the veggietale song he could have

840
00:53:49,606 --> 00:53:50,006
chose.

841
00:53:50,886 --> 00:53:51,926
That's a wonderful.

842
00:53:51,926 --> 00:53:57,126
Yeah. He followed up with what
Brandon could have said was my belly

843
00:53:57,126 --> 00:53:58,006
button by.

844
00:54:00,246 --> 00:54:06,006
His cheeseburger. We are the
Pirates who Don't Do Anything.

845
00:54:07,286 --> 00:54:11,246
It's gonna be a phenomenal
series. We're just waiting on a single

846
00:54:11,246 --> 00:54:14,576
person to decide to donate a
hundred dollars a month. Month. So

847
00:54:14,576 --> 00:54:16,816
if that's you, now's the time
to act.

848
00:54:17,616 --> 00:54:18,216
There you go.

849
00:54:18,216 --> 00:54:19,696
The change you want to see in
the world.

850
00:54:24,416 --> 00:54:28,576
So that's MSL when it comes to
Kung Fu Pizza Party. I am adopting

851
00:54:28,736 --> 00:54:35,056
the year long overarching
series approach for this year with

852
00:54:35,216 --> 00:54:39,376
Mortal Kombat 2 and Street
Fighter both getting new films in

853
00:54:39,376 --> 00:54:45,456
2026 and actually like several
additional video games, getting film

854
00:54:45,856 --> 00:54:49,816
adaptions throughout the year.
A lot of video game creators I've

855
00:54:49,816 --> 00:54:55,496
seen are saying that we are
entering or have entered the era

856
00:54:55,496 --> 00:54:58,936
of the video game movie. And a
lot of it is because the Sonic the

857
00:54:58,936 --> 00:55:03,376
Hedgehog film was so dang good
that now we're actually getting some

858
00:55:03,376 --> 00:55:08,306
good quality video game films.
And so with that this year is going

859
00:55:08,306 --> 00:55:12,426
to be the year that Kung Fu
Pizza Party goes to the arcade. So

860
00:55:12,826 --> 00:55:17,026
at bare minimum, the hope is
that each month I'll be releasing

861
00:55:17,026 --> 00:55:21,386
an episode that ties video
games and the martial arts together.

862
00:55:21,866 --> 00:55:25,826
Obviously there are some easy
picks there, like the original Mortal

863
00:55:25,826 --> 00:55:29,466
Kombat, Immortal Combat
Annihilation films, the Jean Claude

864
00:55:29,466 --> 00:55:33,906
Van Damme Street Fighter film.
Got a couple other things in the

865
00:55:33,906 --> 00:55:39,436
works as well. So I'm excited
to do that and see how that works.

866
00:55:40,396 --> 00:55:45,956
So is this when you also
reveal that a show called Kung Fu

867
00:55:45,956 --> 00:55:51,276
Pizza Party that's going to be
doing a video game here surprisingly

868
00:55:51,355 --> 00:55:54,516
has the ninja Turtle
Michelangelo working with producer

869
00:55:54,516 --> 00:55:56,876
Cooper to come up with your
themes? Or is that we're going to

870
00:55:56,876 --> 00:55:57,596
reveal that later?

871
00:55:58,396 --> 00:55:59,756
We can reveal that one later.

872
00:55:59,756 --> 00:56:05,176
Okay. I love it. It's cowabunga.

873
00:56:05,416 --> 00:56:10,016
Cowabunga. Yeah, I, yeah, I'm
excited just to kind of give this

874
00:56:10,016 --> 00:56:13,016
a try and if it works, you
know, try and figure out how to have

875
00:56:13,016 --> 00:56:18,936
like a overarching theme every
year moving forward. But got a couple

876
00:56:18,936 --> 00:56:22,136
other things in the works.
Like I said with Kung Fu Pizza Party,

877
00:56:22,136 --> 00:56:26,056
it's kind of nice just having
something casual where I'm like,

878
00:56:26,136 --> 00:56:29,296
okay, I just finished this
show, so I guess I'll talk about

879
00:56:29,296 --> 00:56:33,296
it now versus like my seminary
life where there's been times of

880
00:56:33,296 --> 00:56:36,776
like, okay, gotta stay within
these parameters and talk about this

881
00:56:36,776 --> 00:56:38,096
stuff. It's very freaking.

882
00:56:38,256 --> 00:56:43,056
Yeah, Yeah. I love both a lot.
And I'm really glad Kung Fu Pizza

883
00:56:43,056 --> 00:56:45,895
Party comes out on like
Fridays because by that point, like,

884
00:56:45,895 --> 00:56:49,936
I'm listening to all my, like,
news podcasts and everything and

885
00:56:49,936 --> 00:56:54,016
I'm like, man, here's
something that's just fun. It does

886
00:56:54,016 --> 00:56:55,296
just feel better, you know.

887
00:56:55,456 --> 00:56:58,936
Good, good. That is my hope. I
just. This is supposed to be the

888
00:56:58,936 --> 00:57:02,746
fun. It does get serious a lot
of times talking about some of these

889
00:57:02,986 --> 00:57:04,666
themes that come up in the movies.

890
00:57:05,546 --> 00:57:06,106
Oh, yeah.

891
00:57:06,106 --> 00:57:09,986
But I'm also hoping my
intention for Kung Fu Pizza Party

892
00:57:09,986 --> 00:57:14,986
was to be a more guest
oriented series versus my seminary

893
00:57:14,986 --> 00:57:18,386
life. I think there's room for
improvement. So I'm hoping to have

894
00:57:18,386 --> 00:57:22,986
more guests on in 2026. Josh
is already lined up for one. Joe

895
00:57:22,986 --> 00:57:26,306
Day is lined up for one. He's
probably going to be lined up for

896
00:57:26,306 --> 00:57:30,186
a lot because I'm doing 90s
video game content, so I'm sure he's

897
00:57:30,186 --> 00:57:34,726
gonna want to hop in a lot of
those. But so, yeah, I'm sure. I

898
00:57:34,726 --> 00:57:37,686
mean, I already said
Christian's gonna be back, so I got

899
00:57:37,686 --> 00:57:42,246
a couple shows I'm networking
with that. Kind of got to know through

900
00:57:42,246 --> 00:57:47,206
Instagram to hopefully show up
here in 2026. So hopefully be hearing

901
00:57:47,206 --> 00:57:48,366
some new voices as well.

902
00:57:48,366 --> 00:57:51,806
Yeah, Christian will be back
and quieter than ever. Speaking of

903
00:57:51,806 --> 00:57:55,006
which, Christian, that's an
inside joke. Sorry, guys.

904
00:57:55,646 --> 00:57:59,576
Yeah, for some reason, my
audio doesn't like working with other

905
00:57:59,576 --> 00:58:03,816
people. I don't know why. I'm
just a guy who talks. I don't edit.

906
00:58:03,976 --> 00:58:06,976
And that's the theme of my
other shows. If I didn't have Joshua

907
00:58:06,976 --> 00:58:10,536
editing, let nothing move you,
I'd just release it as is. And you

908
00:58:10,536 --> 00:58:13,376
know what? I know some people
don't like that. And you know what?

909
00:58:13,376 --> 00:58:19,296
Go in peace. That's who I am.
So what am I preparing? Well, I did

910
00:58:19,296 --> 00:58:22,216
mention it earlier, like, I'm
finishing up Matthew, and that means

911
00:58:22,216 --> 00:58:24,616
I'm going back into the
historical books of the Bible. I'll

912
00:58:24,616 --> 00:58:27,376
be starting off with Joshua,
going all the way to Esther. Whenever

913
00:58:27,376 --> 00:58:32,316
that ends, it ends. I don't
plan out that far in advance. There's

914
00:58:32,316 --> 00:58:34,676
also sometimes when I say,
hey, I'm planning to do like one

915
00:58:34,676 --> 00:58:36,836
or two chapters, and someone
says, but I really want to focus

916
00:58:36,836 --> 00:58:40,636
on this one, and I may give in
to their demands like I have done

917
00:58:40,636 --> 00:58:47,676
with Joshua in the past. No,
it all kind of depends. So when that

918
00:58:47,676 --> 00:58:50,636
ends, who knows? The good news
is, I mean, outside of the other

919
00:58:50,636 --> 00:58:55,076
good news is that the Bible is
really long and I have many opportunities

920
00:58:55,636 --> 00:58:59,226
to continue doing this. And
somehow if I'm still doing this and

921
00:58:59,226 --> 00:59:02,186
I finish Revelation, I guess I
can start from the beginning again.

922
00:59:02,426 --> 00:59:03,586
You know, it'll be fine.

923
00:59:03,586 --> 00:59:06,186
Or by then I'll convince you
that Enoch should count.

924
00:59:07,706 --> 00:59:10,466
Well, if you have as many
schedule slips as last time, I'll

925
00:59:10,466 --> 00:59:13,586
have covered first Enoch,
because that's what I do when someone

926
00:59:13,586 --> 00:59:16,466
can't show up. I go to the
Pseudepigrapha or Apocrypha, which

927
00:59:16,466 --> 00:59:19,946
is fun, but, you know, it only
happens because of someone else.

928
00:59:20,026 --> 00:59:22,026
There's always the Book of
Mormon too.

929
00:59:22,916 --> 00:59:25,156
That's true. I got a copy on
my bookshelf.

930
00:59:26,036 --> 00:59:29,196
I mean, I do too. I've got the
Quran too, if I really wanted to

931
00:59:29,196 --> 00:59:32,196
throw out the hair. So we can
do that Bible fan.

932
00:59:32,196 --> 00:59:34,436
Fiction, there's always the
Book of Mormon. So.

933
00:59:36,036 --> 00:59:38,916
Also, for the record, the
whole church does still love all

934
00:59:38,916 --> 00:59:44,476
of our Mormon listeners and
former guests. We just also don't

935
00:59:44,476 --> 00:59:46,036
agree with everything.

936
00:59:46,596 --> 00:59:52,736
The viewpoint of the guy with
the beard does not reflect. Yeah.

937
00:59:54,816 --> 01:00:00,016
Removing him from the
ministry, so. Oh, I'm not done, Joshua.

938
01:00:00,096 --> 01:00:00,656
Fine.

939
01:00:01,056 --> 01:00:03,376
I mean, unless you wanted to
talk about what I was talking about.

940
01:00:04,016 --> 01:00:08,096
I was just gonna say I I do
actually appreciate how you just

941
01:00:08,496 --> 01:00:11,016
group chapters together. And
even though I'm like, I want this

942
01:00:11,016 --> 01:00:13,496
one, you're like, we're doing
these three. And at least on one

943
01:00:13,496 --> 01:00:16,416
occasion I picked a chapter
because I want to talk about a specific

944
01:00:16,416 --> 01:00:18,576
verse that I didn't have
enough to say. And then we end up

945
01:00:18,576 --> 01:00:21,076
talking way more about one of
the other chapters I have had no

946
01:00:21,076 --> 01:00:24,396
plans to talk about at all. So
that was great.

947
01:00:25,676 --> 01:00:30,836
It's a bit of godly
serendipity providence at work. So

948
01:00:30,836 --> 01:00:34,476
yeah, that's it for let
nothing move you on the other shows

949
01:00:34,556 --> 01:00:41,716
I am planning for why I don't
like to actually finish Mushoku Tensei,

950
01:00:41,716 --> 01:00:44,876
which would require me to do
another season. And that's 20 some

951
01:00:44,876 --> 01:00:48,076
episodes. It take about six
and I'm not going to say the other

952
01:00:48,076 --> 01:00:54,576
number ish episodes to
complete that six. I hate you and

953
01:00:54,576 --> 01:01:02,056
everything you represent. Then
after that, my plan is to go through

954
01:01:02,376 --> 01:01:05,856
the sequel trilogy because I
don't like the sequel trilogy and

955
01:01:05,856 --> 01:01:08,096
there's one thing I actually
hate about it and it's been years

956
01:01:08,096 --> 01:01:11,256
since I've watched it. So
maybe I will find some redeeming

957
01:01:11,256 --> 01:01:15,296
factors in the abomination of
desolation and the reason why God

958
01:01:15,296 --> 01:01:17,816
turned his back on humanity.
But you know what? We shall see.

959
01:01:18,976 --> 01:01:24,376
And then after that I do plan,
if I get that far, to go and do the

960
01:01:24,376 --> 01:01:29,336
one more day storyline for the
Amazing Spider man where I'll be

961
01:01:29,336 --> 01:01:32,776
starting off with a couple
issues earlier and civil war to build

962
01:01:32,776 --> 01:01:36,976
up to why that happened. So
that's for why I don't like.

963
01:01:37,136 --> 01:01:40,736
That is an easy one to do too.
Man, that's bad.

964
01:01:42,496 --> 01:01:46,166
Oh gosh, yes. It's
godforsaken. Some would say.

965
01:01:47,206 --> 01:01:47,686
Yeah.

966
01:01:48,006 --> 01:01:55,166
Then let's see other shows
that I'm on. I am systematic ecology

967
01:01:55,166 --> 01:01:57,766
is what it is. I'll continue
to show up, you know, as needed and

968
01:01:57,766 --> 01:02:05,246
then some because that's just
how it goes. I am planning. I have

969
01:02:05,246 --> 01:02:07,406
not finalized things, so I
have not actually brought this up.

970
01:02:07,406 --> 01:02:10,086
So I guess I'm bringing it up
right now live on the air, you know,

971
01:02:10,086 --> 01:02:13,196
when this actually releases.
Weeks from now, a week from tomorrow

972
01:02:13,196 --> 01:02:16,996
to actually one thing, one
thing I used to do back in the day

973
01:02:16,996 --> 01:02:20,476
was I would. I did this thing
called Spidey Swing buys for our

974
01:02:20,476 --> 01:02:24,076
YouTube page on systematic
ecology. My idea is to just drop

975
01:02:24,076 --> 01:02:27,396
all premise of just one issue.
Just like do one or two at a time

976
01:02:27,396 --> 01:02:30,516
and just release it as is in
podcast form While also doing the

977
01:02:30,516 --> 01:02:34,676
YouTube thing. So I have not
finalized that idea, but, you know,

978
01:02:34,676 --> 01:02:35,236
just for the sake.

979
01:02:35,236 --> 01:02:40,776
Of bringing it up, I like it.
I like it. I. We don't have a ton

980
01:02:40,776 --> 01:02:45,136
of time here, so I will say
whole church. I don't know all of

981
01:02:45,136 --> 01:02:48,616
our plans, we've not planned
as far in advance as usual, but I

982
01:02:48,616 --> 01:02:51,896
do know we plan on doing a
series soon that's going to be behind,

983
01:02:53,176 --> 01:02:55,896
I don't know, behind the
stage, behind the scenes, behind

984
01:02:55,896 --> 01:03:00,056
the pulpit something. And just
kind of looking at like, what's it

985
01:03:00,056 --> 01:03:03,256
take to get a pastor hired?
What goes into the music that plays

986
01:03:03,256 --> 01:03:06,696
at your church? What goes into
these church events and just kind

987
01:03:06,696 --> 01:03:10,106
of looking, you know, behind
the scenes a little bit. So I think

988
01:03:10,106 --> 01:03:12,386
that'll be a fun one.
Something a little bit more unique

989
01:03:13,826 --> 01:03:17,506
for Systematic ecology. We are
doing an annual theme this year that

990
01:03:17,506 --> 01:03:22,786
is the faces behind us looking
at the inspirations behind our main

991
01:03:22,786 --> 01:03:25,186
characters. Instead of talking
about Spider man, we'll talk about

992
01:03:25,186 --> 01:03:29,866
like Aunt May and like the
first one up in that that I'm super

993
01:03:29,866 --> 01:03:32,626
excited for. I'm recording
like next week and I'm going to be

994
01:03:32,626 --> 01:03:36,916
talking about Uncle Iroh and
that's gonna be great. He's just

995
01:03:37,156 --> 01:03:40,756
hero among heroes. And
sometimes you just got to remember

996
01:03:40,836 --> 01:03:45,876
those things that inspire our
heroes to be who they are, the reason

997
01:03:46,596 --> 01:03:50,836
behind the season, you know.
So I think that'll be a really fun

998
01:03:50,836 --> 01:03:52,676
series. Seeing what we're
gonna do with that, seeing some of

999
01:03:52,676 --> 01:03:55,036
the different stuff that's
going on over there and that show's

1000
01:03:55,036 --> 01:03:58,116
always growing and expanding
and changing. That'll be really cool.

1001
01:03:58,116 --> 01:04:00,506
Some of the other shows we
have in line with up, we have a few

1002
01:04:01,146 --> 01:04:04,666
we're in talks with that are
going to be more female led podcast.

1003
01:04:05,226 --> 01:04:09,546
So you need some more women
leadership representation. I'm excited

1004
01:04:09,546 --> 01:04:13,466
for that on the network. Yeah.
I don't want to say too much until

1005
01:04:13,466 --> 01:04:18,986
that's officially on board,
but we do also have a couple of those

1006
01:04:18,986 --> 01:04:21,866
female led ones will be more
science specific if they join in.

1007
01:04:21,866 --> 01:04:26,626
One of them is more theology
leaning, so we'll see if those play

1008
01:04:26,626 --> 01:04:32,176
out. And of course, we do have
coming. I've already mentioned it.

1009
01:04:32,176 --> 01:04:38,536
Pastor Will Rose with Thomas
Johnston are releasing your Matter

1010
01:04:38,536 --> 01:04:41,456
Matters, which is a faith and
science podcast in association with

1011
01:04:41,456 --> 01:04:46,336
the ELCA being released on the
Anazole Podcast Network. And we might

1012
01:04:46,336 --> 01:04:49,576
have a few others. Brandon
mentioned somebody he knows might

1013
01:04:49,736 --> 01:04:53,136
be interested in doing
something and I know we've been in

1014
01:04:53,136 --> 01:04:55,416
talks about some stuff. So I
want to see more growth this Year

1015
01:04:55,416 --> 01:04:58,646
we kind of been all doing our
own thing. And that's mostly because,

1016
01:04:58,876 --> 01:05:03,036
like, we all have busy, crazy
lives and we still love each other.

1017
01:05:03,036 --> 01:05:05,476
It's not like we stopped being
on each other's podcast and stopped

1018
01:05:05,476 --> 01:05:08,676
wanting to do more. It's just
there's only so much you can do,

1019
01:05:08,676 --> 01:05:10,636
you know, Josh can only.

1020
01:05:10,636 --> 01:05:14,076
Talk for so long in a 30
minute time stream.

1021
01:05:15,676 --> 01:05:23,116
Yeah, I can only talk for two
hours each. 30 minutes. Oh, man.

1022
01:05:24,996 --> 01:05:27,516
All that said, what else do
you guys think that people might

1023
01:05:27,516 --> 01:05:31,316
want to know about Amazon
podcast network in 2026? Oh, actually

1024
01:05:31,316 --> 01:05:36,316
I got something I am thinking
of and probably going to be creating

1025
01:05:36,316 --> 01:05:39,876
a website with our own merch
for the network that will also link

1026
01:05:39,876 --> 01:05:42,676
to everyone else's website. So
it'll be more of like an actual hub.

1027
01:05:43,956 --> 01:05:45,996
So it'll be kind of cool. So
you'll get a little bit more stuff

1028
01:05:45,996 --> 01:05:49,956
from the network and not just
these shows. All say this thing that

1029
01:05:49,956 --> 01:05:55,046
says network. What is the
network work? Yeah, and more shirts.

1030
01:05:55,046 --> 01:05:56,486
Because who doesn't want more merch?

1031
01:05:58,566 --> 01:06:02,726
I will say real quickly, I. I
did forget Friday Night Frights.

1032
01:06:03,446 --> 01:06:05,806
Joe and I will get back to
that at some point. We've been on

1033
01:06:05,806 --> 01:06:08,926
an hiatus because all my jokes
to the side, I do actually have a

1034
01:06:08,926 --> 01:06:11,886
life and he has a life of his
own too. So even though we only do

1035
01:06:11,886 --> 01:06:14,766
monthly, sometimes that gets
in the way because you kind of restrict

1036
01:06:14,766 --> 01:06:18,046
yourself to a Friday and
sometimes those Fridays don't work

1037
01:06:18,046 --> 01:06:21,176
out. So we'll be back
eventually. Pretty soon.

1038
01:06:21,656 --> 01:06:25,536
I thought I saw one like last
month. Right? Or the month before.

1039
01:06:25,536 --> 01:06:26,056
Two months.

1040
01:06:26,376 --> 01:06:29,176
Okay. I was like. Because I
knew it was gone for a while and

1041
01:06:29,176 --> 01:06:31,176
then I thought it had come
back and then I thought it was gone

1042
01:06:31,176 --> 01:06:36,016
again and now I'm just
confused. Yeah, it's fine. It's nowhere

1043
01:06:36,016 --> 01:06:42,216
near as bad as Living Water or
Bible after Hours. So as long as

1044
01:06:42,216 --> 01:06:43,016
you're beating that.

1045
01:06:43,016 --> 01:06:47,376
Bar, it turns out that when
your own life is hard enough and

1046
01:06:47,376 --> 01:06:50,576
you add another person into
the equation, it complicates matters.

1047
01:06:51,046 --> 01:06:54,526
Yeah, I think what you should
do is beat the other person up until

1048
01:06:54,526 --> 01:06:55,766
they show up all the time.

1049
01:06:56,326 --> 01:06:57,846
Joe suffered enough this year.

1050
01:06:57,926 --> 01:07:01,526
Lock them in your closet and
only release him for podcast.

1051
01:07:04,006 --> 01:07:05,166
No, I won't be the one that.

1052
01:07:05,166 --> 01:07:05,846
Does that to him.

1053
01:07:05,846 --> 01:07:08,486
Yeah, I mean, clearly I don't
actually do such things either. That's

1054
01:07:08,486 --> 01:07:14,766
why TJ is present right now.
He's here. So before we wrap up,

1055
01:07:14,766 --> 01:07:17,126
we do always like to ask
everybody for a single tangible action

1056
01:07:17,126 --> 01:07:19,336
that would help better
engender Christian in Unity today

1057
01:07:19,736 --> 01:07:22,976
I actually want to ask, what
do you think our listeners could

1058
01:07:22,976 --> 01:07:28,656
do to help better support our
network or, you know, your shows

1059
01:07:28,656 --> 01:07:33,336
specifically, anything like
that? Yeah. Yeah. What do you think,

1060
01:07:33,336 --> 01:07:33,816
Brandon?

1061
01:07:35,656 --> 01:07:40,296
I think for supporting the
network, my big thing, if you're

1062
01:07:40,296 --> 01:07:45,056
looking for an easy late New
Year's resolution, it would be just

1063
01:07:45,056 --> 01:07:49,096
try something new. We have
quite the variety of different things

1064
01:07:49,336 --> 01:07:54,136
here and clearly we're gonna
have. It sounds like some new shows.

1065
01:07:54,136 --> 01:07:58,456
At least one. At least one
here on the network before the end

1066
01:07:58,456 --> 01:08:03,016
of 2026. So, you know, just
try something new. If you're usually

1067
01:08:03,016 --> 01:08:07,896
here for the. The whole church
content because you're a Bible nerd

1068
01:08:08,376 --> 01:08:12,696
and the idea of listening to
me talk about kung fu movies seems

1069
01:08:12,696 --> 01:08:16,556
a bit of a stretch for you,
then maybe just give it a try for

1070
01:08:16,556 --> 01:08:18,996
a month. You don't have to
stick around, but just give it a

1071
01:08:18,996 --> 01:08:23,276
try. Same with, like, you
know, you know, Same with, you know,

1072
01:08:23,276 --> 01:08:26,916
if you are the geeky content,
you're listening to Systematic Ecology

1073
01:08:26,916 --> 01:08:30,836
religiously and you just
dropped in for this episode because

1074
01:08:30,836 --> 01:08:35,116
it's. It's Christian, it's
Josh, you thought T.J. was gonna

1075
01:08:35,116 --> 01:08:39,116
be here too, then maybe you
should stick around and listen to

1076
01:08:39,116 --> 01:08:43,896
the. The more churchy Bible
content here on whole church or let

1077
01:08:43,896 --> 01:08:46,976
nothing move you with
Christians. So that would be my thing

1078
01:08:46,976 --> 01:08:50,496
is, you know, just give
something a try. We have. What do

1079
01:08:50,496 --> 01:08:53,976
we have, 10 shows? We have
like 10 shows or something. Like

1080
01:08:54,216 --> 01:08:57,616
I'm. If you're not listening
to all of them, just pick one. Clearly

1081
01:08:57,616 --> 01:09:02,056
the Bible after hours one of
you needs to go listen to. So just

1082
01:09:02,056 --> 01:09:03,256
give something a try.

1083
01:09:04,376 --> 01:09:09,926
Yeah, the Bible afterwards
could use some list Christian. What

1084
01:09:09,926 --> 01:09:10,526
about you, man?

1085
01:09:11,086 --> 01:09:14,486
Yeah, I'll go along with
Brandon in a very similar fashion.

1086
01:09:14,486 --> 01:09:17,766
It's like if. But I'll go in a
slightly different direction. If

1087
01:09:17,766 --> 01:09:21,246
one of these shows is one of
you're afraid to get into them. Because

1088
01:09:21,486 --> 01:09:26,166
I'm afraid this goes against
my theology. I argue to fight against

1089
01:09:26,166 --> 01:09:28,926
that for a second. I'm not
asking you to give up your theology.

1090
01:09:29,246 --> 01:09:33,086
What I'm asking is that you
who's talking, what are they saying?

1091
01:09:33,086 --> 01:09:36,855
Why did they think the way
that they do? That is a reason why

1092
01:09:36,855 --> 01:09:40,535
I am subscribed to the Bible
after hours whenever it does release.

1093
01:09:41,095 --> 01:09:47,175
I probably disagree 90% of
whatever he says, but what it helps

1094
01:09:47,175 --> 01:09:51,215
me do is. Helps me. Here's how
he came to this conclusion using

1095
01:09:51,215 --> 01:09:54,575
the same scripture I read. So
what am I going to do with that?

1096
01:09:54,575 --> 01:09:57,415
Am I going to say he's an
idiot or am I going to say, okay,

1097
01:09:57,815 --> 01:10:01,055
why do I disagree with him? If
we were to have a conversation together,

1098
01:10:01,055 --> 01:10:04,996
what would I say? How could we
have a dialogue about this? And that

1099
01:10:04,996 --> 01:10:08,876
improves my understanding of
what I already think about, but also

1100
01:10:08,876 --> 01:10:12,236
forces me to confront why I
think the way that I do. So I'd encourage

1101
01:10:12,236 --> 01:10:12,916
you to do that.

1102
01:10:13,076 --> 01:10:17,596
Yeah. Which now we're 15
minutes in an hour, 10 minutes in

1103
01:10:17,596 --> 01:10:21,876
something. That's the whole
reason the network exists. Well,

1104
01:10:21,876 --> 01:10:24,076
the whole reason network
exists is so that we can all be friends

1105
01:10:24,076 --> 01:10:27,116
and bum off of each other and
just have one network instead of

1106
01:10:27,116 --> 01:10:31,356
all paying for separate,
separate hosting platforms. But if

1107
01:10:31,356 --> 01:10:33,516
we're going to be less honest
about why it exists and just tell

1108
01:10:33,516 --> 01:10:38,116
you, like, what our shared
kind of goal is for all the podcasts

1109
01:10:38,116 --> 01:10:40,436
on our network and when we add
new shows, this is actually what

1110
01:10:40,436 --> 01:10:45,556
we keep in mind is like, are
you honestly asking questions about

1111
01:10:45,556 --> 01:10:48,836
whatever it is, whether it's
the Bible, pop culture, whatever

1112
01:10:48,836 --> 01:10:52,636
we want to be podcast that's
genuinely asking the questions and

1113
01:10:52,636 --> 01:10:56,356
not just acting like we think
we have all the answers or trying

1114
01:10:56,356 --> 01:11:00,076
to fit Jesus in to every
little square. It's more of a. Are

1115
01:11:00,076 --> 01:11:02,836
we honestly engaging with
whatever it is we're talking about

1116
01:11:04,116 --> 01:11:06,436
because we want to be like
Christians that aren't afraid of

1117
01:11:06,436 --> 01:11:08,636
the big questions or
something. I forget what the. The

1118
01:11:08,636 --> 01:11:13,996
slogan is. It's not a good
slogan, but I.

1119
01:11:13,996 --> 01:11:17,996
Just work here with that in
mind. Your other goal for 2026, better

1120
01:11:17,996 --> 01:11:18,596
slogans.

1121
01:11:18,916 --> 01:11:23,146
With that in mind, though, I.
I think a good way to support us

1122
01:11:23,146 --> 01:11:27,266
would be keep us honest.
Listen to the other shows. And even

1123
01:11:27,266 --> 01:11:30,066
if you disagree with
Christians reading the Bible like

1124
01:11:30,066 --> 01:11:34,066
I often do, there's a place
where you can email the podcast.

1125
01:11:34,066 --> 01:11:36,666
There's. You could probably
find Christian on some social media

1126
01:11:36,746 --> 01:11:41,546
or something and be like, hey,
you said this. I think you weren't

1127
01:11:41,546 --> 01:11:44,746
really engaging with this
properly, or I think you're wrong

1128
01:11:44,746 --> 01:11:47,396
about this, or something like,
keep us honest. Honest. We want to

1129
01:11:47,396 --> 01:11:49,316
hear from people. We want to
engage. We don't want to just be

1130
01:11:49,316 --> 01:11:52,036
acting like we have all the
answers. So I think that's probably

1131
01:11:52,036 --> 01:11:56,196
the best way to support us.
And it's not a good business answer.

1132
01:11:56,196 --> 01:11:59,316
Like, I should be saying,
money, give me the money, SpongeBob.

1133
01:11:59,396 --> 01:12:03,556
But instead, like, honestly,
we don't do this for money. And I

1134
01:12:03,556 --> 01:12:07,476
think the best way to support
us is just engaging and keeping us

1135
01:12:07,556 --> 01:12:14,086
honest with what we claim to
be doing. Yeah. So if we do that.

1136
01:12:14,086 --> 01:12:18,246
Well, you know what? Let's
not. Let's not do that. Christian,

1137
01:12:18,246 --> 01:12:22,766
your turn. Could you actually
lead us in prayer for this next year

1138
01:12:23,166 --> 01:12:27,846
and pray that we just kind of
do stay on track with that, being

1139
01:12:27,846 --> 01:12:32,166
honest, engaging with stuff
genuinely and not just kind of putting

1140
01:12:32,166 --> 01:12:34,646
our own agendas and act like
we have all the answers and keeping

1141
01:12:34,646 --> 01:12:35,886
ourselves humble stuff.

1142
01:12:37,566 --> 01:12:39,796
Well, before we start, does
everyone remember that part where

1143
01:12:39,796 --> 01:12:42,356
Brandon said he read the
outline to make sure. Okay, he's

1144
01:12:42,356 --> 01:12:44,676
going to call me out here to
do this? This was not part of the

1145
01:12:44,676 --> 01:12:44,996
outline.

1146
01:12:44,996 --> 01:12:47,316
It just says, let's pray it does.

1147
01:12:49,076 --> 01:12:50,276
I'm always ready.

1148
01:12:50,836 --> 01:12:51,316
Yeah.

1149
01:12:51,396 --> 01:12:55,436
So let's do this thing. Lord,
thank you for this opportunity for

1150
01:12:55,436 --> 01:12:59,316
us all to be together to talk
about the stuff that we love doing

1151
01:12:59,556 --> 01:13:02,916
and the topics that we want to
discuss, the questions we need to

1152
01:13:02,916 --> 01:13:06,386
ask, you know, the answers
that may come or may not come and

1153
01:13:06,386 --> 01:13:09,706
how we wrestle with that, how
we can all work together despite

1154
01:13:09,706 --> 01:13:12,146
our many differences when it
comes to theology, when it comes

1155
01:13:12,146 --> 01:13:15,866
to interpretation, and how we
can continue to love each other despite

1156
01:13:15,866 --> 01:13:20,306
this and because ultimately we
love you more than we love how we

1157
01:13:20,306 --> 01:13:23,546
think and continue to remind
us of who you are and what you're

1158
01:13:23,546 --> 01:13:26,306
going to be doing with us and
bring us closer to you in accordance

1159
01:13:26,306 --> 01:13:27,586
to your will, not ours.

1160
01:13:27,586 --> 01:13:28,746
Amen. Amen.

1161
01:13:29,546 --> 01:13:30,186
Amen.

1162
01:13:30,266 --> 01:13:35,716
Thank you, Griffin with that,
guys. I hope you all prayed with

1163
01:13:35,716 --> 01:13:39,316
us or at the very least when
you're not driving and take time

1164
01:13:39,316 --> 01:13:42,236
and close your eyes and just
say a quick prayer with for our show

1165
01:13:42,956 --> 01:13:46,756
and for yourself. If you're
going to keep engaging with us, pray

1166
01:13:46,756 --> 01:13:50,476
that you can pray for yourself
and how you're engaging as well.

1167
01:13:50,476 --> 01:13:53,716
Because we don't want to do
this and then not do anything for

1168
01:13:53,716 --> 01:13:58,166
you. You know, we don't want
to just be spinning the wheels with

1169
01:13:58,166 --> 01:14:01,006
that though we do always like
to end our show with a God moment.

1170
01:14:01,006 --> 01:14:04,566
Just I'm sharing a place where
we've seen God recently in our lives.

1171
01:14:04,646 --> 01:14:07,246
Challenge, blessing, etc,
Christian does need to keep it to

1172
01:14:07,246 --> 01:14:12,326
one because we have one minute
left of this show. Mine's gonna be

1173
01:14:12,326 --> 01:14:17,166
quick, easy, ish. Christmas
Day, my father in law came over and

1174
01:14:17,166 --> 01:14:20,846
he was wearing a Systematic
ecology shirt when he came to see

1175
01:14:20,846 --> 01:14:23,816
us. And I was like, whoa, he
is supporting us. And that meant

1176
01:14:24,206 --> 01:14:27,926
just the world to me that he
was just being supportive. And then

1177
01:14:27,926 --> 01:14:31,086
I went to my parents home for
their Christmas and my uncle was

1178
01:14:31,086 --> 01:14:34,166
also wearing a Systematic
Ecology shirt that I got him. And

1179
01:14:34,166 --> 01:14:36,526
I was like, I don't know,
something about just seeing people

1180
01:14:37,006 --> 01:14:40,286
supporting us genuinely. And I
just, I don't know, did my heart

1181
01:14:40,286 --> 01:14:45,566
good. So that's my blessing.
Christian, one moment. What is it?

1182
01:14:46,366 --> 01:14:48,846
For those who don't know, I've
been in the job hunt ever since I

1183
01:14:48,846 --> 01:14:52,006
graduated from seminary in
May. And I'm not here to tell you

1184
01:14:52,006 --> 01:14:54,006
that I've suddenly found a job
and everything has turned around.

1185
01:14:54,006 --> 01:14:55,206
I was about to jump out of.

1186
01:14:55,206 --> 01:14:58,746
My I would love to have
announced this year, but it's not

1187
01:14:58,746 --> 01:15:03,066
true. And that has been very
tiring and taxing and it's caused

1188
01:15:03,066 --> 01:15:05,346
a lot of harm to me
spiritually and emotionally. And

1189
01:15:05,346 --> 01:15:08,146
yet at the same time, what it
has forced me to do is increase my

1190
01:15:08,146 --> 01:15:13,226
reliance on God and I'm very
grateful for that. Also, real quick,

1191
01:15:13,226 --> 01:15:15,666
Mailyn's here and I love her
and that's my niece so too.

1192
01:15:15,666 --> 01:15:15,986
Ha.

1193
01:15:15,986 --> 01:15:16,586
Take that.

1194
01:15:18,826 --> 01:15:24,906
I also love Malin Brandon and
what's where's somewhere you've seen

1195
01:15:24,906 --> 01:15:25,586
God in recently.

1196
01:15:26,786 --> 01:15:30,346
You know, I'll just be quick.
Christmas morning with the three

1197
01:15:30,346 --> 01:15:33,346
year old is awesome. Just
there's a whole Christmas season

1198
01:15:33,346 --> 01:15:38,145
with 3 year old is is very
magical and just very enjoyable.

1199
01:15:38,706 --> 01:15:44,226
Yeah, I like it. I like it
short, sweet, to the point with that.

1200
01:15:44,226 --> 01:15:47,226
Guys, thank you all so much
for your time. Thank you Christian

1201
01:15:47,226 --> 01:15:50,376
and Brandon for your time.
Please, if you enjoyed this episode,

1202
01:15:50,376 --> 01:15:53,736
consider sharing it with a
friend, an enemy or a cousin. If

1203
01:15:53,736 --> 01:15:56,296
you didn't enjoy it, consider
sharing it with an enemy, friend

1204
01:15:56,296 --> 01:16:02,456
or cousin. Either way, just
share it, okay? Makes TJ happy and

1205
01:16:02,456 --> 01:16:06,016
he's pot almighty. You got to
do what he wants. Again, remember

1206
01:16:06,016 --> 01:16:09,376
those T shirts that I
mentioned? Check them out. They're

1207
01:16:09,376 --> 01:16:12,536
a good way to support our
show. Send a little money to the

1208
01:16:12,536 --> 01:16:15,016
podcast and let other people
know about our efforts to educate.

1209
01:16:15,016 --> 01:16:18,656
You know, unite the church, do
a fate, do us the favor. Check out

1210
01:16:18,656 --> 01:16:21,136
that link in the show notes
for the all of the Amazon Podcast

1211
01:16:21,136 --> 01:16:23,776
Network. See these other shows
that we've been talking about for

1212
01:16:23,776 --> 01:16:28,456
the last hour and 15, 20
minutes. I think you'll enjoy them.

1213
01:16:28,536 --> 01:16:34,616
Christian Ashley, let nothing
move you Friday night Frights Systematic

1214
01:16:34,616 --> 01:16:39,576
Ecology why I don't like Clyde
Swing by Magic Bald Head.

1215
01:16:40,946 --> 01:16:45,106
Man to Christian Ashley, let
nothing move you. I was like oh cool.

1216
01:16:45,826 --> 01:16:48,866
Send them off with a nice
little on the back.

1217
01:16:50,706 --> 01:16:56,426
Brandon Knights My Seminary
Life Kung Fu Pizza Party TJ Blackwell

1218
01:16:56,426 --> 01:16:59,946
the whole Church Podcast
Systematic Ecology Joshua Null Be

1219
01:16:59,946 --> 01:17:06,346
Living Water Bible after hours
just stuff you know and then will

1220
01:17:06,346 --> 01:17:10,016
Rose the Homo Emily, your
manner matters. There's probably

1221
01:17:10,016 --> 01:17:13,056
more than I'm missing. Just
check it out. Check out that link.

1222
01:17:13,136 --> 01:17:17,176
We hope you enjoyed this.
Coming soon will be Thomas J. Ord

1223
01:17:17,176 --> 01:17:20,216
to discuss with me and TJ
about what? How our views have changed

1224
01:17:20,216 --> 01:17:23,576
over the years. Doing this
podcast. Then we're gonna have on

1225
01:17:23,576 --> 01:17:27,696
Russ Petrus of Future Church
and Catholic Women preach to discuss

1226
01:17:27,776 --> 01:17:31,296
recent discussions, decisions
by the Catholic Church and where

1227
01:17:31,296 --> 01:17:34,506
his organizations might be
held heading next. After that, we'll

1228
01:17:34,506 --> 01:17:38,426
be having Eric Nevins back on
our show to discuss the start start

1229
01:17:38,426 --> 01:17:41,546
discuss the State of Christian
podcast in 2026. And finally, at

1230
01:17:41,546 --> 01:17:44,866
the end of season one, Francis
Chan will be on. But he doesn't know

1231
01:17:44,866 --> 01:17:46,346
about it, so you got to tell him.

1232
01:17:46,346 --> 01:17:47,626
Join the network, Francis.

1233
01:17:47,706 --> 01:17:49,146
Yeah, Francis.

1234
01:17:49,866 --> 01:17:51,466
Francis, Francis.