Welcome to Close it now, an H Vac sales training podcast with Sam Wakefield.
Speaker AHere we'll build your reputation in residential H Vac sales to be the expert influencer in your market.
Speaker AYou'll get insight into the top minds in the industry as they share their skills and hacks to help you on your journey.
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Speaker AIt's about understanding your customers needs and building efficiencies behind the scenes so you can sell more but work less while being top of mind when people think H vac.
Speaker ANow let's get started with your host of the Close it now podcast.
Speaker AThis is Sam Wakefield.
Speaker BHey, all right, Sam Wakefield here with Close It Now.
Speaker BHow are you doing?
Speaker BThis is getting close to the end of first quarter 2020.
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Speaker BEmail me that samloseitnow.net I want to hear from you because as I build courses and record podcasts, I want to help you accomplish overcome the struggles that you're having so you can next level your sales career.
Speaker BSo today we are talking about something that's really important.
Speaker BOf course, every podcast is really important, right?
Speaker BBut this topic is a little bit different than an actual sales process or procedure.
Speaker BWhat we're talking about today kind of stays with the theme of integrity that I've really been focusing on lately.
Speaker BBecause you know, in our industry we know what we do to a T. You know, we're to the you know, super, super detailed level.
Speaker BHowever, we also know that most other people don't know to the level that we do.
Speaker BSo there comes a time that we have a decision to make.
Speaker BThe things that we do a lot of times are easy to do, but they're easy not to do as well.
Speaker BSo this involves integrity topic today because this really, really focuses on when we have those white glove clients.
Speaker BOf course we have to always, always, always do the right thing, even when no one is looking.
Speaker BThat means going the extra mile, you know, taking the extra steps.
Speaker BIf you're doing an install and you're the in the far corner of an attic or a crawl space and no one else can see you, do you still take the same measures and maybe tie things on the way that you know you should or do you cut corners?
Speaker BSo this is what we're talking about doing what's right even when no one's looking.
Speaker BSo with that, and this is really, really, really focused on when you start to have those clients that are, you know, what would be considered the A level client.
Speaker BYou all know who we're talking about, the big house.
Speaker BThey drive a Tesla or a Ferrari or something like that.
Speaker BA very, extremely high end client.
Speaker BIn short, don't cut corners, go the extra mile.
Speaker BDo what it takes to get it right the first time.
Speaker BAnd with that I also mean don't be scared to charge enough to ensure that you have enough cover to do it right the first time.
Speaker BAnd in no way am I talking about overcharging this client.
Speaker BI'm talking about if you know that a project at a house like this is going to take multiple return trips, allow some for that.
Speaker BIt's okay.
Speaker BPeople at this level a hundred percent want it done right the first time, even if it's a few trips, then always rather you'd get it right the first time, even if it takes a little bit longer and cost a little more than have to go back to fix things that are not working from the get go.
Speaker BAnd so don't ever, ever, ever cut corners, especially if they can outspend you.
Speaker BBecause what happens, and I can raise my.
Speaker BI've seen the situation too many times where a company was hired, they came in either the comfort consultant was maybe scared to charge the right amount for the sake of not getting the job.
Speaker BSo then they cut some corners and then what happened?
Speaker BWell, the project didn't go as planned, of course, because step one from the very beginning was out of integrity.
Speaker BSomething happened, something was damaged and sure enough, that client, because they keep an Attorney on retainer turns around and sues the contracting company and puts them out of business.
Speaker BNow, of course, that's why we have business insurance.
Speaker BHowever, I just want you to be aware, this happens.
Speaker BDoing what I do and working with so many companies, I see this happen, sadly, more often than it should, because people aren't.
Speaker BThey just don't take the right steps to do it right the first time.
Speaker BAnd it's not that hard.
Speaker BAnd I know that most of you who listen to my podcast are not that company, thankfully, because I'm attracting a tribe.
Speaker BYou guys are the tribe of doing it right.
Speaker BYou're the tribe of accomplishing things over and above.
Speaker BYou give more value than you take so that everything grows and blossoms and it flourishes.
Speaker BAnd that is amazing, and I love it.
Speaker BBut I just want to make sure that.
Speaker BAnd the reason this is coming up, because I've seen it happen recently in my town, there's a big company that was Undercutter Project, and sure enough, this exact same thing happened.
Speaker BIt's a company that, you know, no one would expect to have those kinds of issues.
Speaker BHowever, they did, and they went away for this very reason.
Speaker BSo I want you to be very cautious to always do the right thing, no matter what, no matter who's looking, especially if they can outspend you.
Speaker BAnd it's just so easy to do the right thing and walk in.
Speaker BIntegrity, because integrity, that.
Speaker BThat's what we do.
Speaker BWe serve the client, we serve people with in a way that.
Speaker BSo it's like Zig Ziglar always said, if you don't know who that is, look him up.
Speaker BOne of the world's greatest motivational speakers and trainers, Zig Ziglar, he always said, when this was his very famous catch line, was if you help enough people accomplish what they want or get what they want, you can have anything you want.
Speaker BIf you help enough people get what they want, you can have anything you want.
Speaker BSo what that tells me, though, is your focus can't be on yourself.
Speaker BYour focus has to be on helping others.
Speaker BYour focus has to be on serving the client in a way that's far and above anybody else.
Speaker BBecause this is the other common theme is our industry is so boring when it comes to the sales process, when it comes to all of the things, what can we do to do business differently?
Speaker BBe thinking about that.
Speaker BDon't just have maybe a little bit better offer than the next guy.
Speaker BHave something so completely different and breathtaking to the client that they think, oh, my gosh, I've never experienced it.
Speaker BAnything like this, especially when it comes to heating and air plumbing or electrical or whatever service company you have, have your client of the mindset when, when they've interacted with you, they feel like a million bucks.
Speaker BBecause people don't care how much they know until they know how much you care.
Speaker BThey want to know how it's all about how you make them feel.
Speaker BThey'll always forget what you tell them.
Speaker BThey always forget everything else, but they will never forget how you make them feel.
Speaker BFeel.
Speaker BAnd they want to feel like you.
Speaker BThey literally want to feel like they're your only client.
Speaker BIf you treat each client like they are your only client and that you would just do everything for them now and again.
Speaker BJust to, you know, obviously be clear, that does not mean, you know, give in to the whims of clients who are unreasonable or, you know, have unreasonable expectations, but just treat people awesome, be awesome and treat people awesome.
Speaker BAnd the rest takes care of itself.
Speaker BDon't cut corners, walk in honesty, walk in integrity.
Speaker BAnd it's sad.
Speaker BFor one, it kind of hurts my heart that I have to that I feel inspired to record this kind of a podcast because, you know, going online and jumping into all the different Facebook groups that are out there, you know, it just is so sad how many people would just as easily take advantage of the client or, you know, not walk in honesty and integrity, you know, and at the same time, I know some of you are thinking that this has, this conversation has to do with price, and it does not.
Speaker BI am in no way saying that you need to lower prices.
Speaker BYou should get a very fair wage for what you're doing.
Speaker BYou need to charge what it's worth.
Speaker BAnd by that I'm saying that it's okay to be more expensive as long as you provide more value.
Speaker BThe company I work with, we're one of the most expensive in town and we're proud of it.
Speaker BBecause there's not another company that provides the same kind of service, the same kind of back end service, and my back end service, obviously it's after the sale, what happens.
Speaker BYou know, we've got quality control, we've got, you know, a true person who answers the phone 24 hours a day, seven days a week.
Speaker BNow, you might be a small company, you might not have that, and that's okay.
Speaker BBut how can you provide the next level of service that supports what you're charging?
Speaker BIt's perfectly awesome.
Speaker BYou should be getting killer margins on your projects because, you know, you're not out there killing somebody.
Speaker BYou know, you're not cutting corners.
Speaker BYou're providing an awesome service.
Speaker BSo right now, I give you permission to raise your prices.
Speaker BIt is okay.
Speaker BIn fact, I can almost guarantee you, 99% of you out there listening to this, you know in your heart of hearts that you are not charging enough for your repairs and for your installs.
Speaker BRaise your prices right now.
Speaker BYou need to do it.
Speaker BBut that's it that my passion is.
Speaker BAnd the other reason for that is for the clients.
Speaker BPeople who invest more, expect more.
Speaker BAnd as they expect more, they also appreciate more.
Speaker BIt's just like if you go to a training course.
Speaker BI mean, I've been to, I've paid literally thousands and thousands and thousands of dollars to go to sales training courses and personal growth seminars and all these different types of things.
Speaker BBut I know of people who were given tickets who didn't even bother to show up to the same event that I was paying thousands of dollars for because they didn't appreciate it, because it cost them nothing.
Speaker BAnd so that absolutely carries over into what we do in this industry.
Speaker BYou have to charge so people will, they'll appreciate the value that you're bringing.
Speaker BAnd just ask.
Speaker BYou ask the client.
Speaker BAnd we're not dumb.
Speaker BWe know this.
Speaker BIt's not a race to the bottom.
Speaker BEvery single person will tell you that the cheapest person doesn't bring the same kind of value.
Speaker BBut the cool part is knowing that when you can educate the client and show them and say, Listen, we're not $2,000 higher.
Speaker BWe' $3,000 higher.
Speaker BWe're $3,000 different.
Speaker BAnd if you would allow me, I'd love to show you how.
Speaker BAnd then when you go through all of the details and the different ways that you are different than the guy that's, you know, charging 3,000 less, that is when you're able to one influence, but educate the client into realizing that, you know.
Speaker BAnd then once you do that, here's the cool trick.
Speaker BIt's not even a trick, it's just a cool technique.
Speaker BYou say, you're, for example, your client says, okay, we're going to be in the house 10 years.
Speaker BAnd then you say, okay, well, great.
Speaker BSo, you know, you're telling me that our nearest competitor, and you say that it seems like the same equipment, the same project is what they're giving you for $3,000 less.
Speaker BI would love to be able to explain to you how we're not $3,000 higher.
Speaker BWe are $3,000 different.
Speaker BAnd at the end of the day, once you go through that explanation and then you say, Mr. And Ms.
Speaker BHomeowner, you said you're going to be in the house for 10 years, right?
Speaker BYes.
Speaker BOkay, so that's easy math here.
Speaker BSo you're telling me that for $6.25 a week you are willing to go with a company that may be cutting corners?
Speaker BBy all means, it looks like they're cutting corners here.
Speaker BHere's how we're different.
Speaker BThey might not even be pulling a permit.
Speaker BThey literally are skipping the steps that it would take to make sure that your family doesn't suffocate at night because of a gas leak or a furnace or electrical fire.
Speaker BThat's the reason we pull permits.
Speaker BThat's the reason we take the steps we do.
Speaker BIf you break out 10 years and you divide that across $3,000 at 10 years, by how many weeks, that is at $6.25 a week.
Speaker BSo you're telling me for a one Starbucks coffee a week you're willing to go with a subpar installation and ask them that if they seem really focused on that lower number, break it down by the week and help them understand that the difference is quality, the difference is safety, the difference is savings.
Speaker BThe difference is a properly installed system is going to save.
Speaker BEven the same equipment installed improperly will not be nearly as efficient.
Speaker BBecause always, always, always we know that there's no such thing as an apples to apples.
Speaker BThat's a load of bull crap.
Speaker BThat is a way of consumers mind of trying to justify their decision for a lower price.
Speaker BWe know that if we can educate properly and then take that number and break it down to a week type and if you want to go even further, go to go to a day that's literally less than a dollar a day that they could have the best install without cutting any corners.
Speaker BGuaranteed it's going to be done right the first time.
Speaker BAnd just break it down like that to the client and you will be amazed how many times they will say, you know what, you're right.
Speaker BI mean me and my team, we walk away with, you know, projects that are thousands higher than our nearest competitors all the time by this kind of conversation.
Speaker BNow on the backside of it, this ties back into how we started this podcast, this episode of, you know, we have to, if we make these promises like this, we got to deliver.
Speaker BYou have to, you know, obviously be confident that your team can give that level of install and that level of service.
Speaker BBut as long as you are, absolutely use this technique in the conversation to close the deal.
Speaker BBecause remember, you can't help them if they don't buy from you.
Speaker BThat is the only way to serve people is if they choose to use your service and use your product and move forward with you.
Speaker BIf they don't move forward with you, you can't help them.
Speaker BSo the reason so many people are so resistant to sales is they're thinking about themselves and what people think about them.
Speaker BTheir focus is wrong.
Speaker BYour focus has to be on how you can help the client, and that's by doing it right the first time.
Speaker BSo that is my message today.
Speaker BAbsolutely.
Speaker BOne, use that type of a conversation.
Speaker BThat kind of conversation is powerful.
Speaker BJust be blunt with them, break it down, educate and let them decide.
Speaker BAnd at the end of the day, if they sell you, you know what, Noah, I'm not going to go with you.
Speaker BI'm going to go with somebody else.
Speaker BYou know, then you can absolutely end up with what happened to me this last year.
Speaker BI had a client that I went to, I had this conversation with, they still chose the cheaper company.
Speaker BIt wasn't six months later I was on the same street across the street at the neighbor's house for a two system estimate.
Speaker BThe neighbor tells me, yeah, man, you know, my neighbor across the street, he had you out.
Speaker BAnd they asked for me specifically had you out to give an estimate for their project.
Speaker BBut they ended up going with somebody else and asked him.
Speaker BI was like, well, why didn't they refer them to you?
Speaker BHe said, they were so disappointed in the other project, they wish they had gone with you.
Speaker BSo when I asked him who he used, he told me who he used.
Speaker BBut he also said, absolutely, do not call that company, Call this guy, call Sam.
Speaker BBecause I wish I would have gone with them instead.
Speaker BBecause what I ended up with was nothing but a nightmare and a headache.
Speaker BUse their company and I'm sure that you'll get a much better project.
Speaker BAnd so sure enough, I got a, you know, a two system project out of the referral from somebody that I didn't even sell a system to.
Speaker BThey went with, I lost that project.
Speaker BThey went with somebody else.
Speaker BThat to me was ultimate form of a compliment to somebody who didn't choose me, referred me over the company they did use.
Speaker BAnd that is the level of service that you have to provide every single time you're in a home.
Speaker BDon't let yourself get lazy in your rock star presentation.
Speaker BDon't take the shortcuts in the presentation.
Speaker BDon't take the shortcuts in the installs, because it will always come back to haunt you if you do.
Speaker BSo that is the message.
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Speaker BThe coaching programs, they're always rolling and oh my gosh, we have people literally having like crazy number differences.
Speaker BSo shoot me a message.
Speaker BLet's get on a call.
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Speaker BI'd love to hear from you.
Speaker BWhat's your biggest question about the sales process?
Speaker BSelling heating and air?
Speaker BA track?
Speaker BAnything?
Speaker BIs it the numbers?
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