Welcome to Close it now, the podcast that's revolutionizing the H Vac and home improvement trades industries.
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Speaker ANow, your host, Sam Wakefield.
Speaker BOkay, we've got a really special show for you today, but before we dive in, I've got to let you in on something that might be the most important decision you make all year.
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Speaker AOne of the most unique podcasts on the web.
Speaker AWe talk about H Vac and home improvement, yet we throw in fitness, nutrition and personal growth.
Speaker AThis is close it now.
Speaker AAnd here's your host, Sam Wakefield.
Speaker CAll right, it is time again for another episode with a guest.
Speaker CToday, I am honored to have the privilege of having this gentleman on.
Speaker CHe is a lot of things.
Speaker CHe's got a lot of history.
Speaker CThat is really exciting.
Speaker CAnd as you know, here on Close It Now, I love to bring in people that are out, specifically outside of the direct vertical that we're in, outside of H vac plumbing and electrical, because we always learn something and we get insight and innovation.
Speaker CBut what's working in the world, right, we get so many times so siloed in our own way of thinking, we get in a rut, and I hope everybody knows what a rut is.
Speaker CJeremy, do you know what a rut is?
Speaker DYeah, I think so.
Speaker CYeah.
Speaker CIt's a grave with both ends kicked out.
Speaker CThat's a rut.
Speaker CAnd so nobody wants to be stuck in that.
Speaker CSo that's what we're doing.
Speaker CSo we're bringing people in.
Speaker CSo I'm introducing our guest today.
Speaker CHis name is Jeremy Mitchell.
Speaker CHe is the founder and CEO of Sales Pride.
Speaker CHe has got some really cool history.
Speaker CHe's been featured on the Andy Elliott podcast.
Speaker CHe's been on the Jeremy Minor podcast twice.
Speaker CHe's been on the Chuck Thoke Top Rep podcast.
Speaker CHe's been on Gutter Growth on Gutter Launch.
Speaker CHe is actually the sales trainer for one of Tony Robbins companies.
Speaker CIf you know who that is.
Speaker CRaise your hand, everybody, if you know who Tony Robbins is.
Speaker CUh, so it was a sales trainer for their organization, increased their close rate by 50% in the time that he worked with them.
Speaker CSo I am honored.
Speaker CAnd, man, I'm just grateful that you made the time to join us on the show today, Jeremy.
Speaker CSo this is Jeremy Mitchell.
Speaker CThanks for being here, man.
Speaker DYeah, no problem.
Speaker DIt's my pleasure.
Speaker DI've been a fan of yours for a while, and I've actually used some of your training content, like the three Bids objection to train some of my guys as well.
Speaker DAnd I've always referred them over to your group.
Speaker DSo I love it.
Speaker CWe appreciate that so much.
Speaker CIt's.
Speaker CThat's what I love about what we do is when you.
Speaker CWhen you come from this abundance mindset, it's a place of.
Speaker CThere's so much.
Speaker CThere's so much information.
Speaker CThere's so much that we can do to help each other.
Speaker CIt's not, you know, we're not like, competing or anything.
Speaker CIt's like, if I grow, you grow.
Speaker CIf you grow, I grow.
Speaker CAnd we lift each other up along the way.
Speaker CThat's the people I like to do business with.
Speaker CAnd I know you do as well.
Speaker CSo start off this, this episode with our interviews.
Speaker CWe always like to give, you know, give the opportunity to tell everybody your history, man.
Speaker CLet's, let's hear a highlight reel.
Speaker CHow in the world did you end up doing what you're doing?
Speaker CAnd I'd love to hear a couple key things in your journey.
Speaker COne is when did you know, when did you, like, have the idea?
Speaker CAnd when did you know that this is something that you were wanting to be doing and being less in the field as a rep and more training?
Speaker CAnd then the second part of that is, what's the main philosophy or driver that drives you in the business?
Speaker DAll right, so that's a pretty loaded question.
Speaker DSo let me see if I can tackle and give a brief synopsis of the history.
Speaker DSo I grew up in Northern California and my dad was a nurse most of my life growing up.
Speaker DAnd he, you know, was in the military.
Speaker DAnd I followed in his footsteps.
Speaker DI was fourth generation Air Force, slash Army Air Corps, enlisted in Air Force in 98 and got, you know, went and did seven years of my career.
Speaker DAnd while I was in the military, my dad hurt his back as a nurse turning a patient and he became a chiropractor.
Speaker DAnd the whole time he was in chiropractic college, he was talking about how we should work together and all this.
Speaker DAnd he had these dreams.
Speaker DSo in 2005, when it was time for me to get out of the military, he convinced me and closed me on going to school to be a chiropractor.
Speaker DSo after I got out in 05, I got accepted into Parker Chiropractic College and went and did my pre med there and finished all my, all my, you know, education before I got into the doctorate program.
Speaker DAnd then my dad passed away suddenly, my first year in chiropractic college.
Speaker COh, wow.
Speaker DSo that dream, he had a very successful practice in Guam and cash practice, making more in a month than I was in a year military.
Speaker DAnd that that practice kind of went up in smoke and I had to figure out what I was going to do.
Speaker DAnd I knew I didn't want to go back in the military.
Speaker DI knew I didn't want to go back into computers and I knew that I wanted to make good money.
Speaker DAnd I didn't have a bachelor degree to get into pre med.
Speaker DIt's only pre med is just 90 hours to get enrolled into the doctorate program.
Speaker DAnd so I found myself getting into sales because my dad was in sales for some time between his, you know, licensing with his nursing job and I Knew that sales had an unlimited income.
Speaker DAnd so I like the sound of that.
Speaker CRight.
Speaker DI got into sales in, you know, 2008, started selling cars.
Speaker DAnd I think a lot of people get started in that.
Speaker DAnd I sucked.
Speaker DRight.
Speaker CI didn't like most people that get into that.
Speaker DDude, I, I sucked in sales for so long.
Speaker DAnd I was always a learner, though.
Speaker DI always, my dad instilled, you know, if there's anything you want to learn, you can find it in a book.
Speaker DYou can go to the library and find information on it.
Speaker DAnd so I did a lot of self education for a while.
Speaker DAnd then in 2012, I Finally, you know, I, I was making less money as a salesperson than I was in the military, so that's how bad of a salesperson I was.
Speaker DAnd then in 2012, I had a big life change circumstance and was able to get a good sales job and started making 50 or 60 grand, 70 grand a year.
Speaker DI was doing okay for myself, but I, I was listening to guys like Grant Cardone.
Speaker DI attended one of his seminars and, and that started me on the path of like realizing I needed to invest in myself because that 795 ticket, I wouldn't be where I am today had I not gone to that first event.
Speaker CAbsolutely.
Speaker DIt was a closer's mindset thing.
Speaker DAnd I don't remember he said, except for this like 2 minute snippet in the whole, like, day.
Speaker DBut it completely changed my sales trajectory around.
Speaker DWe can talk about that possibly later.
Speaker CAbsolutely.
Speaker CYeah.
Speaker DSo that's, that's kind of my background.
Speaker DI've been in the, in home sales industry since 2016.
Speaker DI started at Renewal by Anderson selling windows and, and left the job where I was.
Speaker DI just made $8,000 the month before.
Speaker DAnd they were like, are you, you know, I would, I was in one of the, you know, top 20 guys at the store of a hundred people.
Speaker DAnd they're like, you're just getting good at this.
Speaker DWhy would you leave?
Speaker DAnd made 15 grand my first month at Reno by Anderson.
Speaker DAnd it was also something that Grant Cardone said when I called into his radio show, he had at the time, he was talking about, sometimes it's not because I was talking about switching jobs.
Speaker DAnd he goes, sometimes it's not a matter of how hard you row.
Speaker DSometimes it matters more the boat that you're in.
Speaker CSure.
Speaker DSo I left, left furniture sales, got into window sales, and I've been in the in home sales industry ever since.
Speaker DYou know, 2018, went to my first Tony Robbins event, completely changed my life.
Speaker DInvested in coaching for the first time in 2019.
Speaker DDoubled my income in 90 days.
Speaker DAnd that gave that $6,000 investment in coaching, you know, made me an extra $30,000 in income that I wouldn't have normally made.
Speaker DAnd she was just a life coach.
Speaker DShe wasn't even a sales coach.
Speaker CSure.
Speaker CYeah, no doubt.
Speaker DSo it was from that point, to answer your question, that.
Speaker DThat I knew that I wanted to get into coaching.
Speaker DBut I saw these life coaches, and I was like, oh, that's cheesy.
Speaker DAnd it was like, why would I hire this guy to teach me how to make a hundred grand a year when he's not making a hundred grand a year?
Speaker DRight.
Speaker CAnd I've always been a big fan of that.
Speaker CIt's like if.
Speaker CIf you're getting coach from somebody, make sure they've done the thing that you want to get coached on.
Speaker DRight, exactly.
Speaker DAnd that's, ironically enough, that's exactly what inspired me to officially start Sales pride.
Speaker DSo in 2020, 23, I was the seventh highest income earner at Leaffilter out of 2,000 sales reps year to date.
Speaker DAnd.
Speaker DAnd there was something in August at the upw.
Speaker DUnleash the power within.
Speaker DWhere you do the firewalk.
Speaker DI was a.
Speaker DI was.
Speaker DI joined the platinum partnership, which was like an 85, 000 investment.
Speaker CSure.
Speaker DAnd there was something he said.
Speaker CWe're back at the Tony Robbins event that you're talking about here now, right?
Speaker DOh, no.
Speaker DSecond, this was like the third or fourth Tony Robbins event.
Speaker COkay, gotcha.
Speaker DSame one.
Speaker DYeah.
Speaker DBecause every time you go, you pick up on something new, and that actually leads into what I'll say here in a bit.
Speaker CAbsolutely.
Speaker CAnd for everybody out there listening, if you want to dramatically change your life for something that's not necessarily industries, industry specific, if you want to change your life in sales, come to my relentless event that's coming up in Boston.
Speaker CIt's going to be very transformational like that.
Speaker CBut I cannot, Jeremy would agree, cannot recommend high enough attending a Tony Robbins.
Speaker CEventually it is.
Speaker CIt will hit every aspect of your life and force you to go inside and evaluate things and basically reimagine your life in a way that you never thought possible.
Speaker CSo, yeah, So I was 300.
Speaker DYeah.
Speaker DNo, we're fine.
Speaker DI like it.
Speaker DI was 365 pounds in 2018 when I went to my first event.
Speaker CWow.
Speaker DAnd then a year later, I got the gastric sleeve operation.
Speaker DI lost, like, 170 pounds.
Speaker DAnd so I felt like that would also help me improve every area of my life.
Speaker DYou know, one, one of the things that Tony talks about is what's the one thing, you know, the 20% of the activity that will give you 80% of the results.
Speaker DAnd I felt like first things first was learning how to make more money.
Speaker DI was doing that.
Speaker DAnd I said second things, I needed to lose weight.
Speaker DAnd once I did those three things, those two things, my life took off.
Speaker DSo was the seventh highest income earner.
Speaker DAnd he said something in August at that event where he said, what is a skill that you want to master?
Speaker DAnd I've been in sales since 2008, so this has been 16 years.
Speaker DAnd I said, I want to master sales.
Speaker DAnd, and he goes, there's three pillars that you need to, you know, there's only three things you need to do to master any skill.
Speaker DSo pillar number one is like what you said.
Speaker DFind somebody that's accomplished what you want to accomplish and then do what they did, and you'll get similar results.
Speaker DIt's like a recipe.
Speaker DYou want to learn how to make, you know, the best cookies in the world.
Speaker DYou hire the person that makes the best cookies, you get their recipe, you do what they did, you'll get those results.
Speaker DNumber two is total immersion.
Speaker DSo I had been totally immersed in a lot of trainings.
Speaker DI'd invested in Jeremy Miner's inner circle.
Speaker DYou know, that was 22,500 the first time.
Speaker DIt was over 10,000 the second time because I was already a member.
Speaker DAnd then, you know, third thing is space repetition.
Speaker DHence why you go to the same event year after year after year.
Speaker DBecause what you may not have heard at the first event will ring true on the second event or the third or the fourth if you're a little hard of learning like me.
Speaker DSo it took me, you know, over 10 years to get to 100,000.
Speaker DBut then once I started investing in coaching, I rapidly went up in income and I was on, I, I, I was on pace to make almost $400,000 the year that I left Leaffilter to start my own sales coaching company.
Speaker DWow.
Speaker DWhen he said those three pillars, I said I could start a coaching company based around these three pillars.
Speaker DI've, I've, I've, you know, if I was the seventh highest out of 2000 sales reps year to date, that puts me in the top 1/3 of 1% in just that company.
Speaker DI'm not, it's not like I' guy in an office of 10 guys, right?
Speaker DIt's a big sample size.
Speaker DSo number one, that those are results.
Speaker DYou want to hire somebody that's in the top 1%.
Speaker DThere you go.
Speaker DYou did it.
Speaker DNumber two, space or total immersion.
Speaker DI was like, I could do a daily group training where we're just in this every day.
Speaker DAnd I was like, okay.
Speaker DAnd then number three, space repetition.
Speaker DWe're going to be covering things over and over and over again the longer you're in this, because mastery doesn't happen like this.
Speaker CTrue.
Speaker DAnd he said, you know, I was like, I want to teach on the concept of mastering sales.
Speaker DAnd then I realized, Jeremy, you've been in sales for 16 years and you, you, I, I would say you mastered it.
Speaker DAnd of course, that's with all due humility because I still pay a coach.
Speaker DI paid a coach $50,000 last year, and I'm still in sales training.
Speaker DSo anyways, that gives you kind of a, A background on me.
Speaker CI love it.
Speaker CSo before we go on very much further, I love what you're saying about.
Speaker CI want to camp out on this for a second.
Speaker CWhen you're saying attending the same event multiple times, which of course could also apply for, you know, when we're, we're reading a book or watching a podcast or a TED Talk or anything like that.
Speaker CThere's a saying I heard one time that has just absolutely carried so much weight with me and rang true, which is, no man crosses the.
Speaker COr woman crosses the same river twice because it's not the same river and you're not the same man.
Speaker DAbsolutely.
Speaker CAnd you could literally turn around and go back across and everything has changed because we hear it so differently based on our current life situations and those types of things.
Speaker CSo 100% resonate with that.
Speaker CBut I'm so curious now.
Speaker CI even wrote it down and made a note.
Speaker CYou mentioned the Grant Cardone event that you went to and you remember this two minute segment.
Speaker CI know we have kind of a plan.
Speaker CThis is what I love about my podcast.
Speaker CWe have a plan.
Speaker CAnd so many times the plan before the show goes right out the window because we start talking about something really intriguing.
Speaker DWelcome to Add Brain.
Speaker CRight.
Speaker DThat's all right.
Speaker DBut that's how a sales process should go, right?
Speaker DYou have your script or your guidelines, but then you're going to go a little bit off track.
Speaker DAnd it's kind of like Jordan Belfort straight line persuasion system.
Speaker DYou go off track, you have a line to come back to.
Speaker CExactly that.
Speaker CAnd you just don't want to get stuck in Uranus.
Speaker CThere you go.
Speaker CLove that process.
Speaker CBut tell us about that two minute segment, man.
Speaker CSounds like it was super impactful.
Speaker CAnd has really guided a lot of your, you know, a big transformational moment in your life.
Speaker DIt absolutely was because at that point I was struggling to make 1500 to 2 grand a month.
Speaker DAnd so what he said was, he said, you know, he asked the room, it was called, it was called Close the sale seminar.
Speaker DVery similar to the, the name of your program, right?
Speaker CYeah.
Speaker DAnd so he said, what's the thing that's holding you back from going for the close?
Speaker DAnd the, the overall theme was, you know, people said they were afraid of being pushy.
Speaker DAnd he said, so if you're afraid of being pushy, that means that you care more about what the prospect thinks of you than you are with actually helping them solve their problem.
Speaker DThat was like big punch in the face right at first.
Speaker DThen he said, listen, do you believe in your heart of hearts that your product solves this customer's problem better than any other product on the market?
Speaker DHe said, if you say yes, all right, great.
Speaker DAnd number two, he said, if you don't believe it, go sell something else.
Speaker DOtherwise you're just a con man.
Speaker CYeah.
Speaker DSo number two, do you believe your company will stand behind the product better than any other company will stand behind their product?
Speaker DAnd then number three.
Speaker DPardon me, number three is if you as the service provider, the sales rep, do you believe that you will provide better world class service than any other sales rep from any other company down the street?
Speaker DHe said, if you believe those three things in your heart of heart, then you are doing the prospect a disservice by not being willing to push them into making what's old ultimately the best decision for them.
Speaker DNot for, because you're trying to close the sale and make a commission and screw the customer.
Speaker DIt's all about helping the customer.
Speaker DAnd if, and if you're willing to like crack a few eggs and, and you know, have them think of you as being pushy.
Speaker DIt's not about being pushy.
Speaker DIt's like I'm really trying to help you solve your problem.
Speaker DAnd the, the reason why that was so impactful for me was because I'm a, I was always the nice guy growing up.
Speaker DAnd so I was always like a people pleaser.
Speaker DAnd I never wanted to step on anybody's toes and, and never wanted to like, be too aggressive or too pushy.
Speaker DAnd maybe sometimes I go, the pendulum swings too far and I become too much of a dick.
Speaker DBut you know, it's, it's, it's one of those things where if I really am passionate about helping people, then I have to put my feelings aside.
Speaker DAnd even if it pisses them off, I'm doing it for the right reason.
Speaker DAnd the analogy that goes through my head is like, if you and I are going to a bar and you have too many drinks and you shouldn't be driving, am I willing to confront you?
Speaker DAm I willing to physically confront you and physically remove those keys from you?
Speaker DOr am I going to be this passive guy that's going to be like, well, all right, do whatever you want.
Speaker DAnd then you go drive.
Speaker DYou know, go kill yourself.
Speaker DGo hurt yourself.
Speaker DOr worse, go hurt somebody else that's innocent.
Speaker DAnd it's like what he said was, because if you're not willing to push them, then they'll go down the street and buy an inferior product that won't solve their problem as much as yours will.
Speaker DA company that won't stand behind the product as well as yours will, or get ripped off by somebody else that's not going to provide the service.
Speaker DSo ultimately, even if my price is higher and all this stuff, if I really have drank the Kool Aid and I really, truly believe in this, otherwise you should be selling something else.
Speaker CI love this so much.
Speaker CIt's really, really, really powerful.
Speaker CAnd I love how it aligns so much of.
Speaker CWith, you know, obviously the.
Speaker CThe content that I teach on here.
Speaker CYou know, this is the vibe which is, you know, we're.
Speaker CWe're a service industry.
Speaker CAnything we do in home services, it doesn't matter if it's, you know, gutters or windows or H vac or garage doors, whatever, right?
Speaker CWe're, sir, we're there to serve.
Speaker CWe're there to help.
Speaker CAnd, you know, one thing that's really been on my.
Speaker COn my mind lately that relates to this is they know they need it.
Speaker CThey know they want it, whatever it is.
Speaker COr they wouldn't have called you to start with.
Speaker CThey wouldn't inquire.
Speaker CThey have some level of need or desire for whatever it is that we're.
Speaker CWe're promoting.
Speaker CThe other side of that is one, if they truly understood what it is, they would already have it.
Speaker DExactly.
Speaker CSecond part of that is the reason they haven't yet, at least from my perspective, is because people are stuck so many times in indecision and making that decision, making that purchase is outside of their comfort zone.
Speaker CSo it's our job and our responsibility to help them step out of their comfort zone.
Speaker CSometimes that is a little bit difficult because people get stuck in their ways.
Speaker CThey get stuck in that rut like we started talking about.
Speaker CAnd so how do we help them out of that rut into this new thing?
Speaker CBecause people are scared of new.
Speaker DRight.
Speaker CCool.
Speaker CSo that kind of takes us into, you know, a whole new, whole new topic here, which, you know, how do we help people?
Speaker CHow do we help them step into that?
Speaker CHow do we get them over the hump when we're in those conversations?
Speaker DYeah.
Speaker DAnd, and what I've learned, especially from Jeremy Miner being in his NEPQ inner circle program twice, was really getting people to switch their thinking from price based thinking into results based thinking, number one.
Speaker DAnd not just doing it by telling.
Speaker DBecause I tell my coaching clients, I say telling isn't selling.
Speaker DYou have to ask the questions that get the prospect to realize that it's actually more painful for them to stay where they are than to spend the money to solve the problem and getting them.
Speaker DAnd so like Tony Robbins is real big on like the, the two motivating forces are pain and pleasure.
Speaker DAnd more people are motivated to avoid pain than gain pleasure.
Speaker DThe only reason why they're not making a change is because they associate more pain to spending the money than the pain that they're already used to enduring.
Speaker DBut there's going to get a point to where it's, they're just going to say enough is enough.
Speaker DI've.
Speaker DI'm tired of this.
Speaker DSomething's got to change and they're just going to go ahead and do it.
Speaker DBut we have to be able to ask them questions to get them to realize not only their present pain, but also their past pain and their future pain and how things are going to get worse if they don't do something about it.
Speaker DIt was a process that at Tony Robbins they do what's called the Dickens process.
Speaker DAnd it's basically off of the, the Christmas movie, A Christmas Carol, I believe is what it was.
Speaker COh yeah.
Speaker CCharles Dickens, right?
Speaker DCharles Dickens.
Speaker DYeah.
Speaker DThe whole.
Speaker CMy mind instantly went to, to like Letter Kitty.
Speaker DYeah.
Speaker DYeah.
Speaker DAnd it's the ghost of Christmas past, present and future.
Speaker DRight.
Speaker DAnd so he calls those neuro linguistic conditioners, you know, and, and so we have to be able to get people.
Speaker DOne of the reasons why I was able to go from £365 down to 195, my high school, like athletic weight was because I had to like brainwash myself that if I didn't change, like while I was £365.
Speaker DSure.
Speaker DWhat did I want to lose weight?
Speaker DYeah.
Speaker DWas I committed to doing it?
Speaker DNo.
Speaker DWhy?
Speaker DBecause it's more painful.
Speaker DI was associating to doing the diet and the Exercise and all that stuff, right?
Speaker DAnd the time and all that stuff was more painful.
Speaker DSo it's just easier, just eat my feelings away and stay365 or worse, continue going on.
Speaker DAnd that's where the future comes in.
Speaker DLike, if something doesn't change, how painful is the next five years, 10 years, 20 years?
Speaker DWhat impact is it going to have on you and your family and all this?
Speaker DAnd you have to, like, get.
Speaker DIt's like in this dark room where there's, like, weeping and gnashing of teeth and people are wailing out and screaming and.
Speaker DAnd all this stuff.
Speaker DIt's a pretty intense deal.
Speaker DBut in my opinion, that was one of the things that I needed to go through to be the man I am here today.
Speaker DAnd we have to kind of do that with sales as well.
Speaker DWe have to get.
Speaker DAgain, it's not comfortable, but it's like, listen, if you can't afford the, you know, for gutters as an example, you can't afford the, the $5,000 for the gutter screens, like, how are you going to be able to afford the, like, $10,000 for, like, the fascia rod and all that, you know, and getting them to realize, like, you know, I know H Vac can be, you know, 10, 20 grand easily.
Speaker COh, absolutely.
Speaker DSo it's, it's one of those things, like, how many, you know, all right, it's 80 degrees outside.
Speaker DYou're sleeping in the, you know, and it's all, you know, you're.
Speaker DYou're not getting good sleep.
Speaker DLike, how else is that sleep, lack of sleep impacting you know, other areas of your life?
Speaker DWell, you know, I have been a little more irritable with, you know, blah, blah, blah, the kids are keeping me up, I'm getting cranky at work, or blah, blah, blah, my income is going down, you know, and you ask these questions that get the prospect to really open up and realize how painful their situation is if they don't change it.
Speaker CI, you know, I love this topic because so many times people get stuck in this idea that they're just.
Speaker CThey think their decision is making the choice or not making the choice to move forward with whatever it is that we're, you know, that we're talking to them about, if it's a track, if it's gutters, if whatever it is.
Speaker DRight.
Speaker CBut the, And I love the reframe that you just went through of painting that picture forward of the future pain.
Speaker CBecause for them to choose, because in their mind, they think if they say no, then that's just where it stops and that's it.
Speaker CAnd they're off the hook.
Speaker DYeah.
Speaker CLike, it's either I do it.
Speaker DGot away with that one.
Speaker DYeah.
Speaker CHe's like, whoo.
Speaker DAll right, man.
Speaker DThat guy tried to pressure me.
Speaker CHe was a dinner.
Speaker DYeah.
Speaker DHe was trying to close me.
Speaker DYeah.
Speaker CI won.
Speaker DYeah.
Speaker CBut what the reframe that we have to remember.
Speaker CAnd I love this so much, and I'm sure you could probably actually help everybody out that's listening with a word tracker, too.
Speaker CBut when we're reframing this conversation, helping them realize that just like we were talking about the pain of not making that there is pain associated with not making decision.
Speaker CIt's not just pleasure by not having to spend the money.
Speaker CIt's the pain of what will happen if we don't make this choice because we're choosing a worse fate down the road.
Speaker CAnd how to reframe it into that mental construct of if we don't fix it now, we're choosing something worse later instead of if we don't fix it now, we're off the hook and now we just don't have to spend money and we can just keep living with what the mediocrity that we have because they think it's just okay because they're used to it.
Speaker CSo dive into that a little bit for us.
Speaker DWell, like, for example, with your three bids objection thing, right?
Speaker DIt's like if.
Speaker DIf they, you know, if they don't want to go with you because they want to go collect a few more bids.
Speaker DYou know, how you phrased it was like, okay, are you looking to see if there's another product out there that maybe I didn't tell you about or.
Speaker DOr something for a little more bang for your buck?
Speaker DAnd so, like, I follow.
Speaker DI like what Jeremy Miner does is he leaves it more.
Speaker DMore neutral instead of kind of like leading where it's more open.
Speaker DAnd he says, so, yeah, that's.
Speaker DThat's not a problem.
Speaker DI understand.
Speaker DYou know, you want to get a couple quotes, I guess.
Speaker DWhat are you hoping that you'll hear from these other companies?
Speaker DYou know, and then.
Speaker DSo that leaves it more open for them to say, well, I'm looking for a cheaper price or whatever.
Speaker DAnd then if they say it's a cheaper price, you'll say something like, you know, so is.
Speaker DIs price the.
Speaker DThe most important thing to you?
Speaker DAnd you're ending with this upward inflection, this uptick, which implies uncertainty.
Speaker DLike, are you really sure?
Speaker DAnd most of them will go, well, no, you know, quality and blah.
Speaker DBlah, blah, you know, and then you would say something like, okay, so let's say, you know, you called three of these companies out and, and they're all roughly about the same quality and they're all roughly about the same price.
Speaker DLike how are you going to make a decision then?
Speaker DLike, how are you going to make your decision?
Speaker DAnd so plant some seeds of doubt.
Speaker DLike, okay, if they're all really about the same, like what?
Speaker DYou know, but when we're talking about like the fear thing and the reframe, it's like, what if they go with another company where they should get this level of an AC unit but instead because they can't afford this price, they settle for this level.
Speaker CSure.
Speaker DWhat, what's going to end up happening?
Speaker DThey're, they think they gotta win because they saved $2,000 or four, you know, it's half the price.
Speaker DBut then it doesn't cool their home as well.
Speaker DTheir energy bills go up, it craps out on them early and they end up spending more money because now they have to replace it over again in five years instead of 10 years or whatever.
Speaker CRight.
Speaker DI'm not an H vac guy, so don't, you know, quote me on the.
Speaker CTerm exactly on, on every bit of this.
Speaker CSo even because you've been around home services long enough, stories, Windows, you know how it works?
Speaker DYeah, it's your five thousand dollar window or your five hundred window, you think you're getting something cheaper.
Speaker DSo it's like, yeah, I'm gonna call around, get some more quotes and price and.
Speaker DWell no, price isn't the only thing that matters to me.
Speaker DBut you know, I have to do this.
Speaker DAnd anyway, so that's, it's just getting them to reframe their thinking of like okay, how, how long do you plan on staying in this home for?
Speaker DLike, are you gonna just move in a couple years or you plan on staying here until they, till they have to like carry out in a pine box.
Speaker CRight.
Speaker DYou know, and if you're going to be here that long, like knock on wood.
Speaker DBut like you think you to live here, live another 10 plus years.
Speaker DWell, that means you're probably going to have to replace the AC unit again.
Speaker DSo like do you want to like what's more risky?
Speaker DIs it more risky to spend, you know, to go with a cheaper unit that's cheap?
Speaker DYou know, let's say it's ten thousand today and then in ten years you have to buy it again and it's fifteen thousand.
Speaker DSo now you spent twenty five thousand dollars or is it More risky to spend five thousand dollars more today and go with this fifteen thousand dollar unit but never have to replace it ever again.
Speaker CBut it's going to last you 15, 20 years.
Speaker DYeah.
Speaker DWhich one's going to be more expensive to you?
Speaker DI guess the first one.
Speaker DOkay.
Speaker DIs are you willing to settle for that?
Speaker DYou know, and then again you get them to reframe their mind.
Speaker DOkay, go with the $15,000 ones.
Speaker CAbsolutely.
Speaker CAnd, and of course adding into that, you know, not to mention the.
Speaker CBecause it's lower quality, because it's a lesser standard of install, et cetera, the headaches and maintenance issues along the way.
Speaker CThat will be additional cost and you'll be uncomfortable and peace of mind and all these.
Speaker CAnd, and, and to help build the case.
Speaker CRight?
Speaker DAbsolutely.
Speaker DYep.
Speaker CLove this so much.
Speaker DSo this, this is scratching the surface.
Speaker COh, it just scratches.
Speaker CThat's so much.
Speaker CSo true.
Speaker CSo everybody listening.
Speaker CI hope you made notes from that part of it.
Speaker COf course, you're in Drive Time University for most of you right now, so listen to that again.
Speaker CJeremy just really went through an incredible word track of understanding the concepts.
Speaker CAnd with this type of thing, it's not even the specific script or the words themselves, it's understanding what's behind the script.
Speaker CI'm all about that.
Speaker CIf we can understand where an objection comes from, if we can understand the reason behind their comments and their commentary and ask those clarifying questions, then we don't have to be imprisoned to a script and oh, they changed the words.
Speaker CI don't know what to say.
Speaker CBecause now we're starting to think for ourselves and be able to handle those situations no matter what comes at us.
Speaker DAbsolutely.
Speaker CYeah.
Speaker CSo good stuff, man.
Speaker CLet's get to kind of what we were talking about before when we were planning this episode, because this is something that I know the close it now community.
Speaker CWe talk about this often enough.
Speaker CThere's a lot of people listening and just everywhere that really need a bit more of this kind of concept.
Speaker CSo we've talked enough.
Speaker CI know that a lot of your background and history as you've gone through these different transformational points in your life, a lot of it has to do with.
Speaker CAnd of course this is great because we set this context up with the sales conversation of being able to future cast their future with the potentials of pain or pleasure.
Speaker CRight.
Speaker CIt can be nice and easy and smooth.
Speaker CIf you take this path or if you choose to not do this, your path can be more expensive and more headaches and all those things.
Speaker CSo we're basically predicting the future for them or painting that picture.
Speaker CAnd then they're going to create their future based on their choice in the moment, which is a fun segue into.
Speaker CLet's talk about.
Speaker CI'm just going to be very specific with.
Speaker CLet's talk about some law of attraction stuff.
Speaker DOkay.
Speaker CBecause this is not talked about in the trades or in home services, hardly ever, but it's so important.
Speaker CSo give us some context there.
Speaker CWe've got all of these resources to pull from.
Speaker CSo for everybody listening, we're going to mention some names of some authors and some people you've probably not heard of, but they're incredible, and we highly recommend.
Speaker CSo we've got everything from Neville Goddard and of course, the most famous one, think and Grow Rich with Napoleon Hill, basically the godfather of this.
Speaker CAnd everybody kind of comes from there somehow.
Speaker CBut take us down this path.
Speaker CHow'd you discover this?
Speaker CAnd what are some of the.
Speaker CI've got a cool story, too, I can add in.
Speaker CBut what are some of those transformations that have happened to your life along this path?
Speaker DI'll tell you what, if you're willing to pause the video for a little bit, I'll go in my room, in this living room, because I was just going over this with someone the other day, so.
Speaker CBeautiful.
Speaker COkay, everybody, we're about to pause.
Speaker CWe'll be right back.
Speaker CRight back.
Speaker DAll right.
Speaker DI had to get this journal because I.
Speaker DWhen I signed up for Business Mastery, I signed up for my first, like, coach that I told you briefly the story of.
Speaker DAnd she goes, hey, she said this?
Speaker DShe said, it's maybe a long story.
Speaker DI probably should give you the short version.
Speaker DLong story short, she got me to raise my standards because I thought I was doing pretty good making eight to ten grand a month.
Speaker DAnd she.
Speaker DAnd she laughed at me.
Speaker DAnd she goes, I know people that make that in a day.
Speaker DYou.
Speaker DYou think that's a level 10 for you?
Speaker DI was like, okay, that was humbling.
Speaker DAnd I like that question.
Speaker CI'll use that in coaching.
Speaker DYeah, yeah.
Speaker DAnd I.
Speaker DI can set it up a lot more, but if I go through the whole story, it feels like I can drag this out for 45 minutes.
Speaker DSo, long story short, she goes, hey, you know, we need to.
Speaker DWe get out of life what we are willing to tolerate.
Speaker DSo you're tolerating making only eight to ten grand a month right now in income.
Speaker DSo if you want to raise that income, you have to raise your standards.
Speaker DSo your standards.
Speaker DEight to ten grand a month, like a thermostat.
Speaker DSo you have to Raise it up, you know, to 15 to 20 grand a month.
Speaker DSo it was double my income.
Speaker DAnd she said, you know, hey, have you read Think and Grow Rich?
Speaker DAnd I go, oh, yeah, I read it a while ago.
Speaker DAnd she goes, okay, what's your major definite purpose statement?
Speaker DI was like, my what?
Speaker DAnd she goes, read me your major definite purpose statement.
Speaker DAnd I go, I don't know what that is.
Speaker DAnd she.
Speaker DSo she read out her major definite purpose statement, which is part of the whole confidence formula thing, where you talk about specifically how much money you want to make, when you want to make it, and what you're willing to give forward and all that stuff.
Speaker DAnd so she was like, all right, I want you to go buy the book again.
Speaker DRead the book.
Speaker DDon't just do the audio one.
Speaker DAnd don't buy the new version for the millennials or whatever by the original 1937 unedited version.
Speaker DRight.
Speaker CThe one with the correct language.
Speaker CBecause it's so important.
Speaker DYep.
Speaker DAnd so I bought the book, and I started seeing Bob Proctor pop up all over the place.
Speaker DAnd I signed up for his PGI consultant thing was like, 30 grand or whatever.
Speaker DAnd on one of the videos, he was talking about, like, a live.
Speaker DHe goes, what do you.
Speaker DYou know how Bob Proctor says.
Speaker DHe goes, what do you want?
Speaker DWhat do you really want?
Speaker DI'm doing my best Bob Proctor impersonation.
Speaker DAnd he goes, you know, if I really wanted something, it would be a good idea for me to write it down a hundred times in the morning and a hundred times at night, right before.
Speaker DRight when I first wake up in the morning and right before my head hits the pillow at night.
Speaker DAnd I would write it out in the present tense as if I had already achieved it.
Speaker DAnd I would feel the feelings of achieving that.
Speaker DAnd I would write out, I am so happy and grateful now that I blank.
Speaker DAnd you have to envision it and feel it as if it's in your possession right now.
Speaker DAnd so I.
Speaker DHe goes, I would do that.
Speaker DI would challenge myself to do that for 30 days.
Speaker DYou can do anything for 30 days.
Speaker DAnd frankly, if you don't want to do it for 30 days, how bad do you really want.
Speaker CYou don't want it bad enough then?
Speaker DAnd I was like, all right, this sounds like a major pain in the ass, but I'll do it.
Speaker DAnd so I.
Speaker DI was like.
Speaker DBecause I really wanted it.
Speaker DAnd I had this, like, trip to Fiji to go to wealth and Life Mastery in Fiji for my birthday.
Speaker DAnd this was.
Speaker DI hired my first coach in December, 2019.
Speaker COkay.
Speaker DAnd.
Speaker DAnd in gutter business, that's a slow time of year.
Speaker DAnd I'm thinking how the.
Speaker DOkay, I don't know if I can curse on here, but how the heck am I going to be able to make $15,000 in December?
Speaker DIt's Christmas.
Speaker DIt's the holidays.
Speaker DBut I was tracking my commissions every single day.
Speaker DI was laser focused on my goal.
Speaker DI was reading my major definite purpose statement every morning and every night.
Speaker DAnd I was writing out in my journal.
Speaker DI am so happy and grateful now that I earn 15 to $20,000 a month.
Speaker DIn the morning, 100 times and at night, night.
Speaker DTyping it, not saying it, writing it out.
Speaker CActual kinetic.
Speaker CPutting the brain to pen to paper.
Speaker DYep.
Speaker DAnd then what ended up happening was after the first month, guess how much money I made.
Speaker CI'm gonna guess it was at least $15,000.
Speaker DIt was 14, 500.
Speaker DAnd my coach, I was pissed.
Speaker DMy, my coach, you know, she said when we started this, she goes, come short of hook or crook, which means short of being a hooker, turning tricks on the street corner or robbing somebody or robbing a bank, you're going to make this much money.
Speaker DIf you don't make that much money, then you need to, you know, go, you know, do whatever you need to do.
Speaker DAnd so I was so frustrated that I didn't hit my goal.
Speaker DAnd when she.
Speaker CFor Everybody watching on YouTube, you can decide if that would have been a good plan for Jeremy or not.
Speaker DYeah, yeah.
Speaker DSo I, so we, I get to the call and she goes, well, and I was so dejected.
Speaker DAnd she goes, jeremy, celebrate.
Speaker DAnd she said something that was really key.
Speaker DShe said, it's not about the power behind goal setting, isn't the achievement of the actual goal.
Speaker DIt's about the man you need to become in the process so that you can earn that, you know, earn that goal.
Speaker CYeah, yeah.
Speaker DAnd.
Speaker DOr attracted is what she said, Attract that goal.
Speaker DAnd so I was.
Speaker DAnd so she goes, so you need to celebrate.
Speaker DI was like, okay.
Speaker DSo I celebrated.
Speaker DAnd she was like, now go do it again.
Speaker DI was like, oh, it's January.
Speaker DHow am I going to do this?
Speaker DYou know?
Speaker DAnd I go, well, I guess I'll just keep doing what I was doing.
Speaker DAnd I, I did it.
Speaker DAnd guess how much money I made in the second month?
Speaker CI'm guessing it was over 14,5.
Speaker DIt was 15,5.
Speaker DSo.
Speaker DSo officially I hit my goal, 15k in a month in commissions, in a down month, January of 2020.
Speaker DAnd I was really happy because if you add 155 plus 14 5.
Speaker DIt comes out to 30, 000.
Speaker DLike, even.
Speaker CSo you got dead on 15 for.
Speaker DThose two months, I averaged 15K.
Speaker DSo I was like, okay, I this now, and I've done it two months in a row.
Speaker DAnd she said, now go do it again.
Speaker DI was like, oh, man.
Speaker DAnd then I thought, well, hold on.
Speaker DLike, I kept hearing Bob Proctor in the back of my mind.
Speaker DHe goes, what do you really want?
Speaker DAnd I said, you know, I think I've been settling for just 15k.
Speaker DI think I really want to do 20k.
Speaker DAnd she goes, well, hold on, hold on, Jeremy.
Speaker DLike, you know, you need to take things slow and build on this.
Speaker DI was like, no, f that.
Speaker DI was like.
Speaker DHe says, what do I really want?
Speaker DI've been settling for 15.
Speaker DI really want to do 20k.
Speaker CYeah.
Speaker DSo if you can go from 8.
Speaker CTo 10 to 15.
Speaker DYep.
Speaker CIt's going 15 to 20.
Speaker DRight.
Speaker DSo I literally have the journal, and I just want you to see about how I wrote out the words.
Speaker DI am so happy and grateful.
Speaker DAnd now I want you to just check this out here, because this is pages on pages of what I did.
Speaker DThis, like, this is the writing, right?
Speaker DI literally just went through, like, 30 pages there.
Speaker DLike, literally pages on pages on Gorgeous.
Speaker DThis.
Speaker DAnd so after the.
Speaker DAfter the second month, I had, like, a little coaching client paying me 50 bucks a month from Guatemala as my first coaching client.
Speaker DAnd she met me at the upw and she goes.
Speaker DShe was like, oh, well, I want to try that.
Speaker DBecause I told her of the success.
Speaker DAnd I was like, I'm not going to make this girl do it by herself.
Speaker DSo I did it for the third month.
Speaker DAnd then guess how much money I made in February of 2020 as the world was shutting down from COVID Oh, that's.
Speaker CI'm.
Speaker CIt's.
Speaker DI'm guessing over 20 in a short month in February.
Speaker DGutters.
Speaker CAbsolutely.
Speaker D20K, baby.
Speaker CNo doubt.
Speaker DSo.
Speaker DSo that was like a law of attraction thing.
Speaker DLike, and again, so if you add up 14, 5, 15, 5, and 20K, it was $50,000 in earned income over three months during the slowest months of the year.
Speaker DAnd I invested $6,000 to this mindset coach that helped help me achieve this mindset that I needed to get there.
Speaker DSo, like, 80% of success is psychology.
Speaker DShe didn't teach me any sales tactics at all.
Speaker DIt was just this one conversation or two conversations that we had.
Speaker DI remember and.
Speaker DAnd the law of attraction stuff.
Speaker DSo I teach this.
Speaker DSo I've employed this strategy when I went from 8 to 10 grand a month to 15 to 20 grand a month.
Speaker DI stayed there for about two years, and then I had something that woke me up and I was like, okay, time to raise my standards again.
Speaker D15 to 20 grand a month to 30 to 40k a month.
Speaker DRight.
Speaker DAnd then I hit 40k a month in July of 2022 for the first time ever.
Speaker DAnd then I did it again, you know, to become the, you know, number one guy in my office and.
Speaker DAnd one of the top income earners in the company and hit that award over there.
Speaker DAnd I've done it multiple times and use that whole law of attraction thing of 100 times in the morning.
Speaker DRight.
Speaker DAs soon as you wake up, don't look at your phone first, pick up the book, write it out, and actually feel the feelings of it.
Speaker DAnd.
Speaker DAnd.
Speaker DAnd then go do the work.
Speaker DIt's not just, I wish it'll come to me, and it'll come to me, you know?
Speaker COh, my gosh.
Speaker CYeah.
Speaker CWish is just, you know, that's it.
Speaker CThat's all it is, is a wish.
Speaker DYep.
Speaker CThis is so good.
Speaker CSo let's get into the feeling part of it.
Speaker DGood.
Speaker CBecause that is some of the truest power of what's happening.
Speaker CBefore we do, let's talk a little bit about how we're energy.
Speaker CAnd you'd mentioned something a minute ago, actually.
Speaker CSo since we're attracting, this is attraction.
Speaker CSo for everybody listening, I know this is.
Speaker CWe're getting out there.
Speaker CI want to remind you, your mind don't.
Speaker CYour mind's like a parachute.
Speaker CIt only works if it's open.
Speaker CSo keep your mind open for this because it proves true in so many people's lives every single day.
Speaker CAnd of course, if you're listening to this podcast, there's a good chance you're on this track anyway, or you wouldn't continue to listen to the Close it now podcast.
Speaker CBecause I'll talk about these concepts periodically.
Speaker CSo when.
Speaker CWhen you were talking about.
Speaker CTo your coach about the.
Speaker CThe goals and writing that down.
Speaker DYeah.
Speaker CAnd she was in.
Speaker CDidn't say earnest.
Speaker CYou attract it.
Speaker DYes.
Speaker CYou attract the income.
Speaker CLet's pause there for a second because I heard something one time that really, it's an easy analogy to help me remember this type of thing because I find myself chasing instead of attracting periodically.
Speaker CAnd this quote will reset me every time.
Speaker CIt says, be the target, not the arrow.
Speaker CBe the target, not the arrow.
Speaker CAnd it helps me to reset it back into the attracting mode of letting it happen instead of forcing it to happen.
Speaker CSo expand on That a little bit for us, the attracting part of it.
Speaker DWell, that's a, that's a very loaded question as well.
Speaker CWe could do a whole series of podcasts on this topic.
Speaker DTotally could.
Speaker DSo right now, the book I'm reading is Letting Go by David Hawkins.
Speaker DDr.
Speaker DDavid Hawkins.
Speaker DHe's the one that talks about the whole levels of consciousness and spiral dynamics and all that stuff.
Speaker DAre you familiar with, like, the energy levels of guilt and shame and fear and all.
Speaker DAll the way up to, like, peace and all that and love and all?
Speaker DAbsolutely.
Speaker CGratitude is a big.
Speaker DYeah, yeah.
Speaker DSo I'm, I'm reading that book right now.
Speaker DAnd so first of all, and you know, I, I did a podcast with my current mentor, Josh Lyons.
Speaker DI've been with him now for about a year, a little over a year, and he told me something that he noticed on one of my call reviews that we uploaded to YouTube.
Speaker DPardon me, and he said, you're.
Speaker DYou're forcing things, you know, and when I went on to that call, I had been in a really down state, to be frank with you.
Speaker DI was, you know, I wasn't having the success in February.
Speaker DMy ads kind of died.
Speaker DI wasn't getting leads.
Speaker DI was stressed out about money and stuff like that.
Speaker DAnd, and I was like, trying to over compensate for my depression by trying to get, like, overly, like, jacked up on Tony Robbins stuff, you know, Know.
Speaker DAnd.
Speaker DAnd so I showed up to this call all, like, serious.
Speaker DLike, you could see this crease in my nose and, like, holding them accountable.
Speaker DAre you ready?
Speaker DLike, blah, blah, blah.
Speaker DI was really intense and, and it was like, you know, when you go to a family or a friend's house and they have pets, if you're like, all like, oh, come here, come here, come here, come here, like, or a kid chasing after a dog, oh, doggy, doggy, doggy.
Speaker DThe dog's gonna run away from the pet or from the person trying to pursue it.
Speaker DBut if you just like, sit down on the couch and you just chill, the dog will come up to you and sniff you.
Speaker DThe same thing goes for, like, sales if you're like, really, like, oh, I'm going to close this one.
Speaker DI'm really, I'm on a hot streak.
Speaker DI'm going to do this.
Speaker DAnd it's just like, you just have to be who you are and go there with that service intention.
Speaker DIt's like things are just going to happen the way they're going to happen.
Speaker DThat's part of acceptance of that level of spiral dynamics.
Speaker DAnd it's like you're just, you're just going to do, you know, whatever you can do and let the chips fall as they may and, and what you'll end up doing is you'll be attracting more sales than those people are like, oh, screw that, I'm going to close every deal I talk to.
Speaker DYou know, it's just going to be very heavy handed and it's going to be very, it's just going to be like difficult for you.
Speaker DAnd the prospect like at the end of your appointments when you have that like kind of hardcore approach, don't you just feel freaking exhausted at the end of your day?
Speaker CLike I said, I live a life, lived a life of that for a while in my early career and God, it was, it was awful.
Speaker CYou're closed a lot of business, but man, it was tough.
Speaker DYeah.
Speaker DAnd you're like, you're like, I'm sitting in a car and I'm talking to people.
Speaker DWhy do I feel like I've been digging ditches all day?
Speaker DAnd it's like, it's because you're forcing it.
Speaker DSo he talked about the book called Power vs Force, which is by the same author.
Speaker DAnd he suggested that I read that book.
Speaker DAnd so it was a good reminder because there's times when I'm in alignment, sometimes I'm out of alignment.
Speaker DAnd like you said, when you're out of alignment, you think of that quote about being the target and, and just letting it come to you rather than just like, oh, I'm gonna go get it.
Speaker COh my gosh.
Speaker CAbsolutely.
Speaker CThe years ago when I was still in the field, and this is a story I love to tell about, it really speaks to this programming our brain.
Speaker CYou know what, the writing it out a hundred times in the morning, in the evening, it's the science behind a lot of this.
Speaker CEverybody listening.
Speaker CThis is your RAs, your reticular activating system.
Speaker CIt's that piece of your brain.
Speaker CThe old story is the red car analogy.
Speaker CYou're looking at your new car, the one you find, it's this exact make and model.
Speaker DNot another car on the road.
Speaker DNobody else has this car.
Speaker CNobody has these.
Speaker CIt's so unique.
Speaker DSo unique.
Speaker CYeah.
Speaker CThe second we buy it, they're everywhere.
Speaker DYes.
Speaker CAnd it's like, what?
Speaker CWell, what happened is it wasn't on our mental radar before, but now that we've placed that into the bucket of our reticular activating system, now it's on the radar and we just, our brain searches for it and recognizes it everywhere.
Speaker CSo that's so much of what the writing it out a hundred times does.
Speaker CIt's programming our computer.
Speaker COur brain is just input in, bad input in, bad, input out, good input in, good input out.
Speaker COur brain's like computer.
Speaker DIt's that sub.
Speaker DYour subconscious mind is so much more powerful than your conscious mind.
Speaker DSo if you're like trying to like go out there and force things, you're working on like 10% of your brain's power or less.
Speaker DAnd your subconscious, when you're writing it out, you, your program, your self image and your subconscious mind through repetition and emotion, and that's what the repetition is.
Speaker DBut also feeling the feelings of what it would feel like if you had that, because it's going to create a more strong neural pathway.
Speaker DYep, yep.
Speaker CAnd then, oh, this is so good.
Speaker CAnd then the brain goes to work for us.
Speaker CAnd now these synchronicities start to happen in our life.
Speaker DIt feels effortless.
Speaker CAll of these coincidences just start to happen over and over and it seems effortless.
Speaker CYears ago, when I was in the field and this was, you know, gosh, 2016, 2017, you know, way before the COVID boom or any of that, you know, all of our, our team, they would, they were like, how in the world are you selling what you're selling?
Speaker CBecause they come in and it was just like dead out there.
Speaker CAnd all of these be backs and all these things.
Speaker CAnd I'm like, well, I.
Speaker CIt's because I expect it.
Speaker CThey're like, what are you doing?
Speaker CAnd I was like, you finally one guy took me to lunch.
Speaker CHe's like, they're like, what are you doing?
Speaker CI was like, you wouldn't believe me if I told you.
Speaker DYeah.
Speaker CAnd so I was like, well, every morning I set my alarm, you know, I get up, I'll get ready for my day and I'll go outside and I have this place that I sit for 20, I'll set my timer for 20 minutes.
Speaker CAnd I sit and I meditate.
Speaker CAnd my affirmations are, I always get the best clients.
Speaker CEveryone I meet wants to do business with me.
Speaker CNo one gives me the runaround.
Speaker CI don't get the clients that you know.
Speaker CAnd just constantly, over and over, every single person that I see is excited today.
Speaker CAnd they're going to say yes.
Speaker CIt feels so good that at the end, I'm visualizing the end of the day.
Speaker CIt feels so good that everybody I saw today said yes at a higher ticket than they even thought possible.
Speaker CAnd they.
Speaker CSo nobody on my sales team believed me and said, well, they're like, no, no, they can't be it.
Speaker CThey've got to be hand picking your leads for you.
Speaker CI said, let's prove it.
Speaker CAnd so I started trading leads with them.
Speaker CI was like, you got yours for the day, let's trade.
Speaker CAnd sure enough, the same thing happened.
Speaker CThey're like, no way.
Speaker CAnd it's like, because I just expect it.
Speaker CWhere your energy, where your focus goes, your energy flows and it pulls it right to you.
Speaker CRight.
Speaker CSo tell us more about this.
Speaker CSo you're writing this down, you've achieved now $40,000 a month and what, Give us another story.
Speaker CI'm sure you've got plenty of other law of attraction stories.
Speaker CAnd tell us a little bit more of where your head is at now around the emotion and the feelings of feeling it real in this type of, this type of concept.
Speaker DYeah, so like last, well, January, I had a goal to hit 50k in a single month.
Speaker DAnd I, I was doing the exercises and all that for a part of the time.
Speaker DHonestly, I wasn't being as diligent as I needed to.
Speaker DAnd about halfway through the month I was at 35k and I thought, okay, yeah, I'm on, I'm on track, you know, and leads were coming in and buying and stuff like that.
Speaker DI was like, yeah, I'm going to hit this goal.
Speaker DAnd then I went for like a 10 day like spell where I didn't sell anything.
Speaker DAnd then it got to like the last day of the month.
Speaker DAnd I was like, well, I guess I'm not going to hit it or whatever.
Speaker DAnd I was, I was kind of accepting it.
Speaker DAnd then it was weird.
Speaker DAs soon as I accepted it to where I was like, it's okay, you know, I'll do 50k next month.
Speaker DMonth.
Speaker DAn idea popped in my head and I was like, it was like an inspired idea.
Speaker DAnd I was like, you know, Lee Filter, what they would do is on the last Wednesday of the month, they would do what they would call an international push day, where they basically just pushed and pushed and pushed and called all their rehashes and tried to sell them at cost and do all these things.
Speaker DAnd then the last Friday of the month, they wouldn't have meetings, they'd just be pushing, trying to cram as much business into, into the pipeline as possible for the month.
Speaker DMonth.
Speaker DAnd I was like, well, what if I did that approach?
Speaker DAnd then as soon as that thought came to my mind, a customer who was one of my first clients, he was actually a platinum partner with Tony Robbins as well.
Speaker DI met him at the relationship trip in Maui in October.
Speaker DHe.
Speaker DHe calls me out of the blue and he goes, hey, how's it going?
Speaker DI was like, good, man.
Speaker DWhat are you up to?
Speaker DHadn't heard from him in six months, you know, and he goes, well, you know, I got this new guy here, and he's looking at nepq and Jeremy Minor, he's not really a fan of.
Speaker DAnd I thought I told him, well, why don't you talk with Jeremy?
Speaker DAnd so.
Speaker DSo I had a quick conversation.
Speaker DEasy sale.
Speaker DAnd, you know, so I woke up that day, I think I was officially $15,000 away from my goal.
Speaker DSo that $7,500 sale was like, boom.
Speaker DThat was halfway to my goal.
Speaker DI was like, God dang, I'm.
Speaker DI.
Speaker DI could actually.
Speaker DAnd I could actually hit this.
Speaker DAnd so I called up a couple of my clients who were getting close to expire and ask them if they wanted to extend or whatever.
Speaker DAnd some said yes, some said no.
Speaker DAnd then I got to the point where I was pushing so, so hard and pushing and pushing, pushing.
Speaker DAnd it got to the end of the day where it was like 4:00.
Speaker DI was like, well, I guess I'm not going to hit this goal.
Speaker DAnd I was like, I'm so exhausted because I've been pushing so hard to hit this goal.
Speaker DI was like 4k away from it.
Speaker DAnd.
Speaker DAnd then actually I was like 2K.
Speaker DI was at 48, 000.
Speaker DI was like, damn, I'm gonna fall this short.
Speaker DAnd I was like, all right, let me offer a ridiculous offer to a couple of these clients that I have.
Speaker DAnd I offered it to them, and some said no, and then some said yes at the last minute.
Speaker DIt was like 6:00 at night.
Speaker DI was like, thank God.
Speaker DAnd I ended up hitting 52k in income.
Speaker DBut it was one of those things where, you know, I know it's not necessarily law of attraction, but it was like, to do.
Speaker DIt was $17,000 in business is what I did.
Speaker DAnd on the last day of the month, on one day, in order to hit the goal.
Speaker DYeah, exactly.
Speaker DAnd cash collected.
Speaker CSo I love this.
Speaker DAnd so now the next goal, I'm at 50k.
Speaker DThe next award that this marketing mastermind I'm in, they have 100k a month award and you have to collect a hundred thousand dollars in.
Speaker DIn fees.
Speaker DAnd so far, I'm.
Speaker DI'm a little bit behind the pace, but ironically enough.
Speaker DOh, hey, look, I actually got a text message from one of them.
Speaker DHe said, run it for 5, 500 right now.
Speaker DSo I guess this is real time.
Speaker CWhile we're recording the podcast, everybody.
Speaker DIt was eight minutes after the podcast officially started.
Speaker CLook at that.
Speaker DIt was supposed to be $15,000, but we're breaking up into three months, so 15, 5500.
Speaker DSo.
Speaker COh, so good.
Speaker DIt was.
Speaker CSo this is.
Speaker CThis is powerful.
Speaker CSo I do want to camp out on the.
Speaker CThe.
Speaker COur.
Speaker CWe are.
Speaker CSo everybody understands we're energy.
Speaker CRight.
Speaker COur bodies are made up.
Speaker CI mean, ask any scientist.
Speaker CEvery human body is a big magnet.
Speaker DRight.
Speaker CWe've got all.
Speaker DIt's not even just our bodies.
Speaker DLike, this table is not solid.
Speaker DIt sounds solid, but it's not.
Speaker CYeah.
Speaker CIt's mostly empty space.
Speaker CIt's the molecules that put it together.
Speaker DYes.
Speaker CAnd all the energy surrounding them.
Speaker CEven sitting on the chair you're sitting on, we have faith that it's going to hold us.
Speaker COtherwise we'd fall right through it.
Speaker DYeah.
Speaker CSo we're getting really esoteric here.
Speaker CAnd I love this because it might.
Speaker DBe over my head, but I might also have a funny story about it.
Speaker DSo we'll see where you're going with.
Speaker CSo what happens is.
Speaker CAnd there's.
Speaker CThere's really simple ways to kind of explain this, but our.
Speaker COur head and our heart, they work together in this process.
Speaker CAnd basically our brain and our heart, our.
Speaker COur feelings and emotions, especially our feelings and emotions are really just a big radio signal.
Speaker CRight.
Speaker CThat sends all of these radio waves out into the world that starts to attract us.
Speaker CAnd.
Speaker CAnd there's positive thoughts and there's negative thoughts.
Speaker CThat's why we say, you know, that gratitude, depression can't live in the same moment that gratitude does.
Speaker DGratitude.
Speaker DYep, exactly.
Speaker CAnd so.
Speaker CAnd everybody listening, we've felt this before, you know, when we focus on positive thoughts and somebody enters your space, and they're the negative Nellies, they're the downers of the world.
Speaker CIt just feels icky.
Speaker CYou can feel the negative energy.
Speaker CEven if you've ever thought about it or not, you can tell that that's a negative person and vice versa.
Speaker CWhen you're having.
Speaker CHow many people have been having that bad day?
Speaker CAnd it's the, you know, the morning grogginess, and it's like, oh, you're too perky in the morning.
Speaker CDon't talk to me before I've had my coffee.
Speaker DWell, me and my girlfriend.
Speaker CYou're the negative one there.
Speaker DNo, no, the girlfriend.
Speaker DThe girlfriend is.
Speaker DYeah, yeah, exactly.
Speaker CIt's like, yeah, that person is the negative one.
Speaker DYes, she is.
Speaker CSo this is just real practical proof of this.
Speaker CBut when we start to focus on those positives, especially when we can start to visualize the outcome before it happens.
Speaker CAnd when we visualize that outcome, and not just visualize it, but we start to put some emotion into it, that's where the brain, that subconscious part of the brain goes to work.
Speaker CAnd it works all night.
Speaker CIt works constantly working behind the scenes to cause that reality, to pull that reality into our lives.
Speaker CThis is how we pull the future.
Speaker CLike we pull ourselves directly into the future.
Speaker CWe're creating it.
Speaker CAnd so we're basically the way they like to say is we're co creators with the universe for the life that we want to have.
Speaker CSo I love this concept.
Speaker CNever in an entire show ever dove in this far.
Speaker DWell, I want to, but I think.
Speaker CThe time has come for it.
Speaker DI want to touch on some of the heart and the brain stuff and actually give people a tactical thing to help them.
Speaker DAnd I think this will be really helpful for any salesperson.
Speaker DSo let me ask you this.
Speaker DHas there ever been a time for the listener?
Speaker DHas there ever been a time when you felt stressed?
Speaker DHas there any been a time, ever been a time when you felt anxious or nervous?
Speaker DAnd.
Speaker DAnd when you feel these moments of stress, it could be anger, it could be fear, it could be any of these things that are not empowering emotions to you.
Speaker DThat is a warning sign that your head and your brain are out of alignment.
Speaker DLiterally.
Speaker DThey run on electrical impulses that can be measured and printed off on an EKG and an ecg.
Speaker DSo when have you ever.
Speaker DThat's the negative state.
Speaker DHave you ever been in a state where everything is like, just looks like you've got the Midas touch, where everything you touch, like turns to gold, where it's like you've gone 10 for 10 on sales.
Speaker DLike you were in this flow state.
Speaker DYou hit the game winning shot, you scored the game winning touchdown.
Speaker DIt was just like you powered through it and nothing could freaking stand in your way and you felt unstoppable.
Speaker DThat's being in a flow state.
Speaker DSo there's two things.
Speaker DTony Robbins says that when you're in this angry state, this, when you're not in this flow state, he calls it a beautiful state.
Speaker DWhen you're not in this beautiful state, you're in a state of suffering.
Speaker DAnd anytime you're in a state of suffering, it's because you are doing two things.
Speaker DNumber one is you're thinking only about yourself and you're not thinking about anybody else.
Speaker DAnd number two is you're focusing on what's missing.
Speaker DRather than what you have in your life to be grateful for.
Speaker DSo you can literally change your state in an instant by switching your focus.
Speaker DInstead of thinking about, why am I focusing on myself?
Speaker DThink about how can I serve this other person?
Speaker DNumber two is, well, I'm thinking because he said no.
Speaker DNow, I missed that sale and now miss.
Speaker DYou're focusing on things that are missing.
Speaker DFocus on the things you're grateful for.
Speaker DMan, I work for a good company that provides me with leads every day.
Speaker DI made $150,000 in the last six months or whatever.
Speaker DLike, whatever it is, focus on what you can be grateful for.
Speaker DAll right?
Speaker DAnd then there's a little exercise you can do, and it only takes two minutes.
Speaker DAnd it's been scientifically proven at Stanford Medicine, where you literally put your hands on your heart, you close your eyes and you breathe in.
Speaker DAnd you just imagine breathing into your heart.
Speaker DAnd the whole time you're.
Speaker DYou're feeling the breath go into your heart and you're feeling the power of your heart.
Speaker DYou're feeling this heart beating in your chest.
Speaker DAnd as long as this heart is beating, you are still alive.
Speaker DAnd if you're alive, then that means there's a purpose for you here on this earth and that your mission's not over yet.
Speaker DAnd you didn't have to do anything to earn this heart that's beating inside your chest.
Speaker DThis was given to you for free.
Speaker DAnd you don't have to do anything to keep it right?
Speaker DYou don't have to do anything to earn it.
Speaker DYou just, you are worthy.
Speaker DAnd.
Speaker DAnd if you just focus on those things and you switch your focus from what is missing in your life to what you have to be grateful for, and you focus on those things and you breathe deeply into your heart.
Speaker DWhat ends up happening is your brain waves go like this and then they end up, like, syncing up and then they're like, like this.
Speaker DAnd then you're back into a flow state again in literally two or three minutes.
Speaker CSo good.
Speaker DSo anytime you're in that state where you feel like just things are not going right for you, change the focus on what's missing to what you do have that is going right for you.
Speaker DMaybe it's your family, maybe it's, you've got a roof over your head.
Speaker DBecause when it boils down to it, there's other people that got it way worse than you.
Speaker DWould you change position with them if not be grateful for what you got?
Speaker DBecause here's the thing.
Speaker DI think of it like God is like the cosmic dad taking his son into ice cream.
Speaker DAnd if the, if the son, you know, he.
Speaker DDad buys him ice cream and the son goes, this isn't the flavor that I wanted.
Speaker DI wanted chocolate chip.
Speaker DAnd throws it down on the ground is ungrateful for the ice cream that you got him.
Speaker DIs that dad being a good dad?
Speaker DIf he's going to be like, okay, let me go get you the chocolate chip, he's like, you're, you're not being, you're not grateful for what I got you.
Speaker DAll right, you can just go without ice cream.
Speaker DRight.
Speaker DSo if you're not grateful for the life that you have right now, what makes you think that you, as a spoiled little brat throwing a temper tantrum, that your life isn't going the way that you want it to go, is going to change that you're going to be blessed with what you.
Speaker DBecause you're not grateful for what you already have in your life.
Speaker CYou have to be more grateful so we can pour more into us, right?
Speaker DYeah.
Speaker DAnd it's not just about you.
Speaker DIt's about so you can give to others.
Speaker DBecause that's the big thing when it comes to, like, mindset on money.
Speaker DA lot of people think, oh, you know, 300 grand a year, 400 grand a year.
Speaker DI don't need to make that much money.
Speaker DI just want to make enough just to be comfortable and pay my bills.
Speaker DAgain, listen to what you're saying.
Speaker DI just want to be comfortable enough so that I make just enough money so that I can pay my bills and not help anybody else around me.
Speaker CRight.
Speaker DWhat a selfish thought process it is.
Speaker DYou know, if you made four times as much money, think about how many more people you could actually help rather than just focusing on you and your little bills.
Speaker CPowerful.
Speaker CSomething I've said for a long time is the best way to help the poor is to not be one.
Speaker DYeah, great point.
Speaker CBecause we, you know, when we don't have the resources, yes, we can give time, but we're limited in bandwidth, especially when we're constantly working our face off to try to pay the bills.
Speaker DYeah.
Speaker CAnd when you have the abundance, we can start to leverage things and invest more and just make, make such a bigger impact.
Speaker DYeah.
Speaker DI mean, it's like, you know, this little business I've got going on, you know, okay, 50k in a month, that's great.
Speaker DYou know, but here's the thing.
Speaker DLike, then all I'm really doing is I'm just helping myself, you know, like, how selfish of that.
Speaker DI.
Speaker DWhat I need to do, I Went to a event with my mastermind group, with my mentor, and he said something in passing.
Speaker DHe was like, you know, talking about networking in the group.
Speaker DHe goes, because you never know when, like, Jeremy's offer is going to take off and he's going to need closers.
Speaker DAnd I'm like.
Speaker DI was like, man, I hadn't even been thinking about that.
Speaker DAnd I was like, yeah, dude, here I am playing selfish.
Speaker DI.
Speaker DThere's some guy out there that might want to make 20 or 30 grand a month, and he's stuck in a job where he's making five or ten grand a month.
Speaker DI was like, I could be helping more people, like in my community of closers, right?
Speaker DYou know, it's like, so I came back to go get this award and go get the 100k award and build my business up.
Speaker DNot just because I want to go make a insane amount of money for what an uneducated, no college degree guy should be earning.
Speaker DIt's because I want to be able to build up a business that is helping other people, you know, have a career that they could be, you know, passionate about.
Speaker DAnd more importantly, the.
Speaker DIt doesn't happen without helping the clients, you know, like the people that are listening to your podcast here, like, helping them reach their goals.
Speaker DSo there was something you said in the very beginning of this, and I meant to circle back around to it, and you said something about, like, your motto, and it was that Zig Ziglar quote of, you can have everything you want in life, life if you just help enough other people get what they want out of life.
Speaker DAbsolutely.
Speaker DSo if they're a business owner that's only making 100 or 200k and they want to make half a million or a million, if I can help enough of those company owners build their business up to the 10, 20 million mark and sell their company and retire and go, you know, build churches or whatever.
Speaker DThat's what they want.
Speaker DCool.
Speaker DLet me help them do that.
Speaker DIf I help enough of those people do that, then I'll be able to have whatever I want in life.
Speaker DLife as well.
Speaker CWell said, man.
Speaker CYou could not have wrapped up this episode any better.
Speaker CI know that we could talk about this for a long, long time, and I.
Speaker CI definitely hope we will.
Speaker CWe'll have to do some more episodes on some of these topics because, you know, in home services, in the trades, it's.
Speaker CIt's been so blue collar for so long and such a stifled mindset around this type of thing.
Speaker DIt's a middle class mindset.
Speaker CIt's a middle, yeah, it's a middle class mindset and everyone that listens in our communities have a degree of growth and personal growth and leveling up.
Speaker CAnd I'll tell you, everybody, the masterminds and things that Jeremy and I have been involved with, you don't get to that level without having a modicum of this type of concept.
Speaker CNow call it, you know, if you're very devout in your faith and you know, spirituality and your specific religion.
Speaker CAbsolutely 100%.
Speaker CBut I'm saying do the things that you know, you need to do there to be in alignment with your beliefs.
Speaker CIf it's, you know, if we're source or universe or whatever it is that your specific is there's universal truths that carry through every single thing.
Speaker CEven in the Bible, Jesus said let the poor say I'm rich, let the weak say I'm strong.
Speaker CRight.
Speaker CIt's the same thing but just through a little bit different lens.
Speaker CSo that's what we're, that's what we're talking about today is these universal truths are universal for everybody for a reason.
Speaker CBecause it's the way this, this entire planet was created.
Speaker CSo that's it man.
Speaker CSo tell everybody who, so who, who do you work with?
Speaker CWho's what, companies, what individuals and let everybody know how to get in touch with you.
Speaker DYeah, you know, it's basically I've sold Windows for Renewal by Andersen.
Speaker DI've sold walk in bathtubs for safe step walk in tubs.
Speaker DI've sold solar for safe or for sun pros.
Speaker DI sold water filtration systems for Eco Water.
Speaker DSo what I've found is that all in home sales businesses that are operate on a one call close is basically the same process.
Speaker DAnd I feel like Leaffilter's sales process, the 12 step closing sequence that they have is the best that I've seen out of all those great companies I worked for.
Speaker DAnd so that's what I do is I train folks to employ those processes.
Speaker DAnd then also the way that Lee filters compensation plan was, you know, built it was I wasn't the seventh highest income earner because I had the seventh highest close rate.
Speaker DI was the seventh highest income earner because I was able to sell it for the seventh highest best profit margin, you know, and, and the guys that were number one sold, you know, ran a thousand leads, I ran 433 leads.
Speaker DSo it's one of those things where teaching them how to sell jobs at a higher price and not being competing to be the low price but being, being One of the higher prices so that you can make more profits, so that you can afford to put more people, hire more people, do more ads and all that.
Speaker DSo it's pretty much anybody that's in the, in home sales, one call close kind of space.
Speaker DBut I just want to give an experience of who I've actually worked for.
Speaker DSo I have practical, industry specific knowledge.
Speaker CYeah, good, good stuff.
Speaker CAnd how does everybody get a hold of you if they want to know more about.
Speaker CLearn more about Sales Pride and follow you in your journey?
Speaker DYeah, you can follow me on Instagram at Sales Pride Coach.
Speaker DYou can go to my website at Sales pride coach or salespridecoaching.com I think is what it is.
Speaker CI'll make sure and have you in all the show notes, everybody.
Speaker DYeah, you're driving.
Speaker CDon't try to remember.
Speaker CJust.
Speaker DYeah, I think it's salespridecoaching.com and it was more geared for the gutter guys because it was, you know, it was what I had the most success at recently was because of my evolution and development in my personal development.
Speaker DBut you know, just to be able to say, hey, seventh highest income earner out of 2,000 sales reps, it sounded a lot more impressive.
Speaker DSo pretty much anybody that wants to close more effectively and sell at higher prices to make more profits and being able to not have to overcome objections because you learn how to prevent them from happening in the first place.
Speaker DAnd understanding that 80% of success is not just is is is not just tactics.
Speaker DAnd oh, how do I.
Speaker DWhat's this word track?
Speaker DHow do I overcome this?
Speaker DObjection.
Speaker DIt's about the psychology and the mindset.
Speaker DOtherwise those other things don't work if you don't have the mindset in place.
Speaker CRight.
Speaker CLove this.
Speaker CSo for everybody, when you reach out to, to Sales Pride, when you reach out to Jeremy, make sure you mention that you, you heard him on the Closing now podcast.
Speaker DYes.
Speaker CBecause this is you.
Speaker CWe'd love to share, help, help build each other up, you know, there.
Speaker CFor everybody that would like to hear.
Speaker COh man, we'd love to hear you guys do some more stuff together.
Speaker CReach out.
Speaker CLet us know if we get enough people reaching out.
Speaker CYou know, we could put together a, you know, we'll put together a co TR to specifically address some of the things that you all want us to work through.
Speaker CIf you want to hear more on.
Speaker COn Law of Attraction stuff, definitely let us know that as well.
Speaker CI'm working with, I'm reaching out to some thought leaders in that space to bring them onto the show and, you know, really dive in as well, so.
Speaker CWell, Jeremy, it's been awesome having you today.
Speaker CI appreciate it.
Speaker DPleasure as always.
Speaker DYep.
Speaker DI've always enjoyed our conversations, so.
Speaker CAbsolutely.
Speaker CSame here, for sure.
Speaker CI'm grateful that you made time for us today and for everybody out there.
Speaker CI hope you got some massive.
Speaker CThere were some massive nuggets in this episode.
Speaker CGo back and there's actually several exercises Jeremy took us through.
Speaker CGo back and actually do them.
Speaker CDon't just let it become knowledge in your head.
Speaker CActually apply it.
Speaker CRemember, success happens at the speed of implementation.
Speaker DYeah, people love information, but they hate implementation.
Speaker DSo they're like, oh, yeah, that sounds like a good idea.
Speaker DUntil they start doing it every day.
Speaker DPeople hate implementing it.
Speaker DAnd that's the difference between what makes you a top 1% person is the speed to implementation and the consistency of implementation.
Speaker C100%.
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