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Yeah, we're back.

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Did you think we would leave in all

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summer long?

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at all.

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We wouldn't do that like we did last year.

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Yes, there, that that is true.

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We will call it out.

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We said we were gonna do some
off season episodes last year.

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Never got a chance to, but here we
are, episode 20 on the year, changing.

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Yes.

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So yeah.

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So welcome to Hudson Homers.

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For those of you still subscribe.

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Thank you.

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If not, we're back.

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We're gonna have right three or
four of these over the course of the

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summer, then rolling into fall ball.

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So appreciate you all sticking around
through the season and listening to

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us for now, the 20th time in 2025.

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Appreciate that.

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But sure.

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CB, I know you've been traveling
around catching a lot of baseball,

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but have you been last few weeks?

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Oh yeah,

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I've been good.

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Went, yeah, went and saw the state,
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It was, um, ocean Lakes and Cox,
a couple local teams, a few kids.

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Actually a couple kids that I had,
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um, were a couple of my students.

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So one of 'em had a walk off.

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Sac fly in the bottom of the
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That was pretty neat.

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And so, we'll, we'll get to see
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see him with, um, JMU next year.

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So I'll be root against him
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yes.

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I know you've caught some
pilots games as well.

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I think you, you mentioned this
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have done a fantastic job with
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Yes.

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Video quality graphics.

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The way they're engaging.

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Uh, a lot of Scotty, a lot
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Things we love to see.

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No, you go to a game and like I went,
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you know, week of the season's, like
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about a week and they already had,
like, the guy would come up and he'd

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be like, you know, Kyle Edwards and
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getting hits from the week before and
like a walk off celebration they had.

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And it's all, I mean, it's,
it's high level stuff.

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Aiden out there.

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Aiden Cantwell is, he does
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And then, and then Matt, Matt Mitchell's,
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getting after it and trying to make some,
so it's, it's cool, it's cool to see

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people who are passionate about something
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And they already, they already
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baseball and the Hampton Roads.

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It's, it's, it's neat.

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It's out to pilot game.

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in, they both playing pretty well
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get down there to go catch the game.

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Obviously harass Kyle and Scotty
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from there we go, the stands.

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Uh, but Awesome.

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Well, we, we've got a fun episode
today, focused a lot on recruiting.

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Uh, we have Coach Hera here in a second,
and then Coach Finney will join us,

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uh, towards the end in a little bit.

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portal questions, so we're gonna

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try and get those answered for you.

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So without further ado, we'll bring
on assistant coach Jonathan Hadra.

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Haage, thanks so much for hopping on.

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Hey guys, thanks for having

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Appreciate you being here.

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Hey, how Paige is.

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Awesome.

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Just before we start
anything, Paige is awesome.

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Paige was, you know, he would
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always just a, a good dude.

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And you know, it's nice when,
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you're like, oh, I know that guy.

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He's great.

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We're gonna have a good time.

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And so, so three years of being here now.

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Hey, you haven't changed my mind a bit.

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I still think you're awesome.

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Well, I appreciate that cb we, uh, we have
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Um, it's been a fantastic move,
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but also just for the family.

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Uh, we love Norfolk and um, yeah,
just really been enjoying it.

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A lot of opportunities here
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fantastic people in the program.

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Well we appreciate you taking a few
minutes out of it, but it is a very, very

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busy time of year for you if you haven't
checked the transfer report and all that.

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But we love, we would love to, uh, just
to kind of get some background on you.

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I know you were your head coach
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uh, played at VMI as well.

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coaching for the key debts.

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Yeah, I, first of all, it was, uh, tho
I mean I spent 14 total years at VMI

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13 and I spent one year right after I
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Midwest for four years, worked three
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University and then came back here
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to VMI after a year of Bradley, and for
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and then eight of 'em as a head coach.

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And, um, man, it'll always be a highlight
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VMI because I was very fortunate.

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To have a chance to be the
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And that, that to me, that that's
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business doesn't happen very often.

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Um, tremendous people there.

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We loved it there, loved the kids that
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The losses, they heard a little bit more,
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Um, but man, like that, it was, it was
incredibly, um, humbling to be able

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to be in that position because a lot
of, you know, people that I look up

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to in this business were also in that
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And just to kind of be able to continue
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onto and just see the program continue
to get better, long after I'm gone is

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even, I mean, it's just what an honor,
you know, it was just awesome to see.

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big leaguers, is that correct?

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Uh, actually just picked up,
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We had, uh, just picked up another
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He just made the big
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The funny thing about Zach Kent is that
he pitched, and I forgot, he pitched

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it here in, on a Tuesday, um, against,
against Old Dominion, and he couldn't

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get out of the first inning here.

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Um, and now you look up and he is
into big leagues and, and big leagues.

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Those was a really
cool, really cool thing.

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Um, but we had, Josh
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Mm-hmm.

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He's from Richmond and Nathan
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Um, and Reed Garrett, who's having
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Mets right now.

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He pitched for us and I mean, he's got
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Um, so there was, there was a few of them.

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And, and yeah, it was really
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You know, that they went to this small
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and they're playing at the highest level.

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It's, it's fantastic.

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Yeah, it's pretty May.

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The list of, uh, VMI, alums of
the big leagues is not long.

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So be able, say you put four of
'em, there's, that's pretty cool.

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It's pretty, yeah.

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There's a lot of moving parts that
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know, so that was, um, a lot of moving
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in those guys development, for sure.

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And I mean, it's, it's tough just to
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like you're facing more recruiting
headwinds and say you might be at ODU

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or somewhere else just because it's not
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There's an entire other
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And of course you gotta survive the
rat line as a, as a newbie coming in.

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It's a whole nother level of commitment.

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Um, it really, you know, it makes you,
it makes you find guys like, you gotta

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love to play the game of baseball.

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about it and, and it's not, you

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know, if it's just more of a hobby,
like it's just, it's not gonna work.

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Um, which is why when you find those
guys that go there and they stick it out

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and they just grind through the entire
experience and they just sell out for

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the program or for the school, it's just
so rewarding to see 'em go on and have

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success, you know, after graduation or,
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Um, so, but you know,
in a lot of ways, like.

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In a lot of ways, you know, it
is different recruiting there

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versus here, maybe anywhere else.

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But it, in some ways, it's, it's
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you're still trying to find the right
guy for the place that you're at.

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And what we had to do there is,
you know, we had to find a guy

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that maybe, maybe we had to win
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Uh, maybe we had to find a guy
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because of this or because of that.

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Maybe he's undersized, maybe he
couldn't quite run well enough, but we

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thought we could, we could develop 'em.

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Um, and it was just taking
shots on those kids.

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But at the end of the day, like,
I mean, that's really no different

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than what we're doing here.

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We're trying to find the
right fit or old dominion.

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Um, and it, and also like the
character piece of it, right?

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It's like finding just the
right type of human being that's

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gonna fit in that locker room.

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I mean, that is such a big part of
recruiting, um, wherever you are,

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because you're talking about culture.

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You're talking about a whole nother,
like, whole nother like list of,

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of things that are so important for
a program to be super successful.

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Yeah, the culture piece is huge.

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I feel like we had a, a really strong
team culture this year, and we definitely

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needed it because being on the road
so much, if you were gonna have a

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culture issue, that thing would've
blown up quick, fast, and in a hurry

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probably sometime during that, uh,
Alabama trip there in Mississippi.

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Yeah, that was a great trip.

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That, uh, that nine hour delay
at the airport, that'd been, oh

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It was, uh, yeah, it was, um, look,
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will always go down as really special
group, um, you know, led by some of those

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older guys like Eddie and Luke, um, you
know, Bryce, some of those older guys

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that, you know, they played a huge part
in kind of driving this thing forward.

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And Blake and Dylan, I mean, Ben, like
those guys, man, they like, we, they

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knew from the jump that it was gonna be a
year, it was gonna be a unique year that

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was gonna full be full of challenges.

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Right.

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And just be ready for it and
just accept it and just move

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through it and battle through it.

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And we knew it wasn't gonna be easy.

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Um, and the thing about I, I
couldn't be, probably the most thing

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I'm most proud about those guys
about is like, never complained.

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Like you never heard 'em complain about,
oh God, here we go, we gotta go to Auburn

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now we gotta to Southern miss, you know,
you have to come back from Charlotte.

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You know, like they, all they
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And you know, at first, you know,
what, seven weeks of the season?

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Yeah, it was a grind.

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But you know what, like, it prepared us
for those last six weeks of the season

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when we really needed to win some ball
games to put ourselves in a position.

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And, and the guys did.

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They got, they fought like heck to
get into that, the top six seat,

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you know, which we hadn't done
in the, in the last three years,

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you know, it was the first time.

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So like, I, I mean, you know, was
the overall record what we wanted?

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No.

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It wasn't, but man, like you'd look
at the leadership from that group.

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Like it was a tough group.

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It was a gritty group.

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Um, I mean, like, for example, this kind
of says everything about this group.

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Like I get a text from Scotty
Young yesterday last night, and it

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is a video of him getting smoked
in the head at the pilot game.

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Did you see it?

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Cb

250
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No, I didn't see that.

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I didn't see that.

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Yeah.

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He got smoked in the head.

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It was a pitch or whatever, right?

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And it all a sudden, or
neither was grip ball monarchs.

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That's like, that's like,
that defines the group.

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Like that's what it was about.

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Um, and you know, like those
guys, like, it wasn't easy.

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They didn't complain.

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They just kept playing.

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Could have won some ball games
up late, you know, and maybe

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played better in some areas.

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But man, that group was, it was
a, it was a good group of guys.

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They, they turned it on
at the right moment too.

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'cause like you said, we got into that
top six, something we hadn't really

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been able to do in a while and against
a really tough Sunbelt because if

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you haven't paid attention, coastals
two and oh, they're one win away

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from the College World Series final.

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Uh, and you know, we got knocked out by
Southern Miss who was right there hosting

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Regional and pushing through on their end.

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I mean, the Sunbelt
really legit this year.

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And to do what we did Yeah.

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With all the headwinds was impressive.

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So yeah, you have to, you have to
do a little, uh, little clicking in

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there on our, our record to see how
good this team really was this year.

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Yeah.

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The Sunbelt's real, like it's not, I mean,
there's not a weekend that that is off.

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Um, and that's what it's,
that's what's so fun about the

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Sunbelt and, and being here and.

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Playing at this level is you, I mean,
literally every weekend is a grind.

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And if you, if you like to
compete, if you love to compete,

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like this is what it's all about.

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You know, it's like to put yourself
in these situations where you get

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tested literally every single weekend.

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Um, and that's, you know, that's,
that's what makes this whole

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thing fun and makes it go, um,
so, and it, and gets you better.

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It prepares you for the
postseason when you get there.

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I mean, look at Coastal.

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They're rolling right now, Southern
miss, you know, playing in a regional

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final and you could sit there and
argue that Troy should have been

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in there and, I mean, makes sense.

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Like they probably should have been
in there and should have, you know.

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And so, um, I mean that team,
they're one every weekend.

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What, except for one and
then their top 25 for.

295
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13 out of the 14 weeks
or something like that.

296
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Right.

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I mean, incredible

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fared better against Coastal
Carolina than anyone else we've seen.

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They did so far this year.

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They did.

301
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Yeah.

302
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Little.

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I think they only wants to
beat 'em or something, right?

304
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I mean, maybe.

305
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Yeah, I think so.

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Something like that.

307
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Yeah.

308
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Yeah.

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They were one of the few teams that
were, they were able to, because I

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mean, coast Coastal's loaded, I mean,
and they're in the driver's seat

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now to go win the whole damn thing.

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So

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we're rolling right now.

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You know, as much as, uh, I know CB
is not a fan of Coastal Carolina is

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not gonna be put on any, uh, yeah,
ch they're not a huge fan, you know?

316
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Uh, but, you know, it does
elevate our, our conference so

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you don't have to root for 'em.

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I guess.

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You don't have, be mad if they win.

320
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Yeah.

321
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Great.

322
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Congrats.

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Way to go.

324
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Yes.

325
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All right.

326
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Well for that, we, we want to definitely
talk about the transfer portal,

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and I'm gonna knock on wood because
the portal is still very much open.

328
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Uh, but I, I think at last
check we had about eight guys

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that were going in the portal.

330
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I. There are currently 5,100 players in
it, 3,100 of them are at the D one level.

331
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Where do you even begin to try
to narrow that list down to find

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someone that you even want to call?

333
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Man, I, I tell you what I, I think
the way it's starts for us is, is

334
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I think we gotta give credit to
the three young guys on our staff.

335
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Um, because they have been tremendous
in helping narrow down as whatever

336
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it is, 5,100 names of Brandon Pond
and John Keane and Ryan Moore.

337
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Those guys have been tremendous for us,
for Paul and Mike and myself with, um,

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scouring, you know, scouring the names,
checking stats, doing initial evals,

339
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and then kind of passing them off to us.

340
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Um, I mean, they've narrowed down a
lot of a lot of guys, so that makes our

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time when we have the phone calls or the
visits or we go evaluate a guy in person,

342
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like we're going to watch guys that we.

343
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Have already kind of vetted a little bit.

344
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I mean, at the end of the day, I mean,
you know, I think when it comes to the

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portal recruiting, it's finding a guy
that we're connected to ideally, okay,

346
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maybe he's a guy that we previously
recruited and maybe he just decided to

347
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go somewhere else for whatever reason.

348
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Okay.

349
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Maybe it's a local guy that, that
is coming back that decided to go

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somewhere else, but he, he has,
you know, understands Old Dominion.

351
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Or like, the third thing is, if it's a guy
that's, that we have a third party that

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we trust that is connected with a guy,
and typically the guys that we're, for the

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most part, the guys that we have gained in
the portal or the guys that we're actively

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recruiting in the portal, they check one
of those three boxes for the most part.

355
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Because at the end of the day, like I said
earlier, like, like it, the, the same,

356
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the, the thing that still applies here
versus VMI versus other places, like we

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wanna find people that value Old Dominion.

358
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Right.

359
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Like, and that's just the reality
of it is like finding somebody that

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cares about this university and
takes a lot of pride in this program

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and understands the history and
tradition of this program because

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it's an extremely prideful program.

363
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And the alumni are, they have a
ton of pride of the program and

364
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all of the successes come with it.

365
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And it's just finding guys that
want to add to that legacy and add

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to the history of this program.

367
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And the, we found that the best
way to do that is to find guys that

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we're kind of already connected to.

369
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It doesn't always work out that way.

370
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Right?

371
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I mean, there's guys that we have on the
roster that we didn't have a connection

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we just kind of stumbled upon, but,
you know, but for the most part, I mean

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that's kind of how, that's our strategy.

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It's kind of how we're narrowing down.

375
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Um.

376
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All of those names that you see in there.

377
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Um, when,

378
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when I've looked at it, you know, and
this, you could tell me how accurate

379
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this is, but you know, we are not
the big like NIL school, right?

380
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We're not one of these big SEC
schools that's got like a, uh,

381
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whether they have four or five,
$12 million budget gonna go out.

382
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I mean, they're out there, they're
like shopping at Tiffany's, right?

383
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They're just on the portal.

384
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They're looking at, they're looking
at the stat line like that guy's

385
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all, and you see like last I noticed
last, like about this past weekend, a

386
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lot of names started all of a sudden
committing to these bigger schools.

387
00:17:06,450 --> 00:17:06,540
Yep.

388
00:17:06,569 --> 00:17:10,680
Um, and to me it feels a lot like
regular like MLB free agency, right.

389
00:17:10,680 --> 00:17:14,790
Where like a lot of the big guys signed
first and then it kind of trickles down.

390
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And so now it's like, okay,
well now we're getting some

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of the big guys outta the way.

392
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Now you're gonna get down to guys who
wanna play some ball and guys who,

393
00:17:21,869 --> 00:17:23,040
you know, it's not about the money.

394
00:17:23,190 --> 00:17:25,260
And I think reality is like, we
don't have, there's no, there's

395
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no NIL bro baseball, right.

396
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We, you, you have to find those
guys that want to be here.

397
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Um,

398
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correct.

399
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And so I'm assuming
it's a little more like.

400
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You know, we're not the Dodgers
or the Yankees or whoever.

401
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We're more like, I'd be more like the
Rays or the, you know, the, I can't know.

402
00:17:39,945 --> 00:17:42,975
The team that's good at finding
Royals have been pretty good.

403
00:17:43,185 --> 00:17:45,915
You gotta find those guys who,
maybe you look at the stat line.

404
00:17:45,945 --> 00:17:47,715
I mean, I think about some of the
guys we had running last year, like

405
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Hunter Baes and uh, Tyler, Dallas.

406
00:17:50,325 --> 00:17:50,535
Right.

407
00:17:50,535 --> 00:17:53,445
They didn't really have, their stat line
is nothing, you know, Bains just kind

408
00:17:53,445 --> 00:17:56,745
of heard Dallas didn't play much, but
you gotta know the potentials there.

409
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So we're kind of like that Moneyball
thing of like, we have to like maximize.

410
00:18:00,675 --> 00:18:03,975
The potential, uh, and right when
you're looking out, looking for guys.

411
00:18:03,975 --> 00:18:04,875
So is that, yeah.

412
00:18:04,875 --> 00:18:06,315
Do you feel like that's a
little kind of accurate?

413
00:18:06,525 --> 00:18:07,395
Yeah, for sure.

414
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And, and it also, and the other thing
that it, va it varies with guys is like,

415
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it depends on if a guy's got one year
left or he is got three years left.

416
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Mm-hmm.

417
00:18:15,375 --> 00:18:15,585
Right?

418
00:18:15,585 --> 00:18:19,215
Like, because if it's a guy that's got
three years left, it's like, all right.

419
00:18:19,215 --> 00:18:23,145
Like maybe, maybe, maybe this
guy does something like false,

420
00:18:23,265 --> 00:18:24,465
maybe doesn't have numbers, right?

421
00:18:24,465 --> 00:18:27,705
But there's something in there that
he does really, really well and we

422
00:18:27,705 --> 00:18:30,975
can help develop and help, you know,
get him better to the next level.

423
00:18:30,975 --> 00:18:35,295
So maybe he is not a guy that helps
out that first year, but maybe being

424
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in the system for two years, maybe
three years, like you're, that second

425
00:18:39,255 --> 00:18:42,045
and third year, you start to see the
return on your investment, right?

426
00:18:42,495 --> 00:18:43,935
Like, so it, it, that varies.

427
00:18:43,935 --> 00:18:46,605
And then there's guys like, all right,
hey, this guy's a grad transfer.

428
00:18:46,605 --> 00:18:48,045
He is, got one year to go.

429
00:18:48,315 --> 00:18:51,045
Like, those guys are the guys where
it's like, they're more kind of, they

430
00:18:51,045 --> 00:18:52,635
need to be a little bit more polished.

431
00:18:52,995 --> 00:18:56,085
Come in, help you because
it's, it's one year.

432
00:18:56,445 --> 00:18:57,165
Um.

433
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And you know, that's like, for
example, like you, you know,

434
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one guy that was a one year guy.

435
00:19:01,950 --> 00:19:07,230
Like, like those guys need to be
kind of, you know, a known commodity.

436
00:19:07,230 --> 00:19:09,060
So somebody like Toron Hammond, right?

437
00:19:09,060 --> 00:19:11,160
Like, like Ron, like what?

438
00:19:11,160 --> 00:19:13,200
He's a, he was a fantastic kid.

439
00:19:13,200 --> 00:19:17,400
I've known him now for a couple
years, like a fantastic human being.

440
00:19:17,910 --> 00:19:24,060
And you look back at the history, at
his track record in college and the one

441
00:19:24,060 --> 00:19:29,640
thing that that guy never did is he never
punched out and he always just hit okay.

442
00:19:29,700 --> 00:19:31,020
Was it at the division one level?

443
00:19:31,020 --> 00:19:31,860
No, it wasn't.

444
00:19:31,860 --> 00:19:36,540
But so what, you know, and like when
he got here, you know, it, it wasn't

445
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the three 30 hitter that he was
previously, but everything still felt

446
00:19:40,290 --> 00:19:42,390
like he, he was on base at a 400 clip.

447
00:19:42,720 --> 00:19:46,560
He played a, played a pretty good
second base and he just like, we knew

448
00:19:46,560 --> 00:19:48,360
exactly what we were getting with him.

449
00:19:48,450 --> 00:19:51,630
And that's exactly like, that's
what it is, is you just, I. You

450
00:19:51,630 --> 00:19:53,700
get a guy, it's like, all right,
I know exactly what I'm getting.

451
00:19:53,700 --> 00:19:53,970
This guy.

452
00:19:53,970 --> 00:19:57,900
And he was a fantastic teammate
with just infectious energy.

453
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I mean he just, some days like that
dugout was just electric because of Teron.

454
00:20:03,360 --> 00:20:06,900
And it was like, he's just an
incredible teammate and just

455
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has this positive energy.

456
00:20:08,370 --> 00:20:12,120
Like so even though he is only for
here for a year, like that guy's

457
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left his legacy on this program.

458
00:20:13,650 --> 00:20:14,670
That guy's still talking.

459
00:20:14,670 --> 00:20:17,130
I'm, he's actually gonna be
back this fall helping out.

460
00:20:17,130 --> 00:20:18,000
It's gonna be awesome.

461
00:20:18,150 --> 00:20:18,990
Oh, let's go.

462
00:20:19,320 --> 00:20:19,620
That's great.

463
00:20:19,860 --> 00:20:21,240
I'm really, he's gotta finish it up.

464
00:20:21,240 --> 00:20:24,690
He's got a couple classes he is
gotta take and he asked, uh, well

465
00:20:24,690 --> 00:20:27,720
when we talked to him about it,
he asked if he could help out.

466
00:20:27,720 --> 00:20:29,190
I was like, man, this is a no brainer.

467
00:20:29,250 --> 00:20:31,440
Like this guy, we need to have
this guy around our program

468
00:20:31,440 --> 00:20:32,850
as much as possible, you know?

469
00:20:32,850 --> 00:20:33,930
So That's awesome.

470
00:20:34,290 --> 00:20:34,800
He's awesome.

471
00:20:35,370 --> 00:20:35,850
Love that.

472
00:20:36,060 --> 00:20:39,510
No, I love that because that was the,
the other side of it too is the guys that

473
00:20:39,810 --> 00:20:43,530
were more likely to get that do have those
stats behind them or just like you said,

474
00:20:43,530 --> 00:20:49,860
it's the guy like Hammond who was at the D
two level guys like, um, Alex Hunt and um.

475
00:20:50,595 --> 00:20:53,235
Frankie Wright, who were at
kind of smaller schools who

476
00:20:53,235 --> 00:20:54,375
are then wanna kind of move up.

477
00:20:54,375 --> 00:20:57,795
And so yeah, it's, it, it, yeah,
we're, like I said, we're not

478
00:20:57,795 --> 00:20:59,415
gonna go out and get there.

479
00:20:59,415 --> 00:21:02,385
Some SEC guy, we're not, probably
not even like another Sunbelt.

480
00:21:02,504 --> 00:21:06,254
I saw somebody moving laterally from like,
uh, I think Louisiana to Southern miss.

481
00:21:06,254 --> 00:21:06,870
Like I said, that's miss.

482
00:21:06,870 --> 00:21:06,990
Yeah.

483
00:21:07,274 --> 00:21:09,435
That's not the level we're
kind of hunting at, probably.

484
00:21:09,435 --> 00:21:09,764
Right.

485
00:21:09,764 --> 00:21:11,504
I mean, it's, and nothing wrong with that.

486
00:21:11,504 --> 00:21:12,254
It's just who we are.

487
00:21:12,254 --> 00:21:14,445
Like you said, we're gonna find
the guys who want to be here,

488
00:21:14,475 --> 00:21:15,435
which I, I think is awesome.

489
00:21:15,435 --> 00:21:16,605
I'd much rather have that, I think.

490
00:21:16,875 --> 00:21:17,145
Yeah.

491
00:21:17,145 --> 00:21:19,185
Having a team full of like
high price mercenaries.

492
00:21:19,185 --> 00:21:19,695
That's great.

493
00:21:19,695 --> 00:21:20,504
I'm sure that's cool.

494
00:21:20,955 --> 00:21:22,095
There's, there's the
real star of the show.

495
00:21:22,425 --> 00:21:22,785
Yeah.

496
00:21:22,790 --> 00:21:22,990
There

497
00:21:23,290 --> 00:21:23,510
you,

498
00:21:24,920 --> 00:21:25,470
there you go.

499
00:21:26,610 --> 00:21:27,705
Thanks for being here.

500
00:21:28,155 --> 00:21:29,264
Um, your dad's awesome.

501
00:21:29,264 --> 00:21:30,375
I hope, you know, I hope you
tell him that all the time.

502
00:21:31,605 --> 00:21:33,405
Um, but, but yeah.

503
00:21:33,405 --> 00:21:34,395
I mean, but I, I'm with you.

504
00:21:34,395 --> 00:21:37,425
I think as, as a fan, that's
what you want is those guys.

505
00:21:37,425 --> 00:21:37,725
I mean, yeah.

506
00:21:37,725 --> 00:21:39,435
It's great to have all those
talented guys that show up.

507
00:21:39,435 --> 00:21:40,965
It's like, at the end of the day,
it's like, do they really care?

508
00:21:40,965 --> 00:21:41,835
They're getting paid either way.

509
00:21:41,835 --> 00:21:41,925
Right.

510
00:21:42,254 --> 00:21:45,465
And have having a team full of, like you
said, grit guys who are fighting for it or

511
00:21:45,465 --> 00:21:47,565
want to be here, that that's fun to watch.

512
00:21:47,565 --> 00:21:48,885
And that's what we, we like here.

513
00:21:49,230 --> 00:21:49,950
No doubt.

514
00:21:49,980 --> 00:21:54,420
And that, because you know, like when
you look at the, the, when you look at

515
00:21:54,420 --> 00:21:58,170
the history of the program, like this
program has been built on, on overly

516
00:21:58,170 --> 00:22:02,580
competitive players that love to work
and are tough and are gritty and are blue

517
00:22:02,580 --> 00:22:07,830
collar and like, we've got this incredible
stadium coming and it's gonna be awesome.

518
00:22:08,310 --> 00:22:08,430
Yeah.

519
00:22:08,430 --> 00:22:12,600
But it's not gonna change like, who
we are or what has made us successful.

520
00:22:12,600 --> 00:22:15,540
It's, we're gonna recruit the
same guys, the same type of guys.

521
00:22:15,570 --> 00:22:16,980
Like, like maybe Okay.

522
00:22:16,980 --> 00:22:21,360
Like, can we go, like, maybe is there a,
a guy that maybe we can attract before?

523
00:22:21,360 --> 00:22:22,860
Maybe we could like, maybe Yeah, right.

524
00:22:22,860 --> 00:22:26,700
But like the character and the makeup of
those individuals are gonna be the same.

525
00:22:27,150 --> 00:22:29,940
Um, because this program is,
that's what it's been built on.

526
00:22:30,180 --> 00:22:33,390
Um, and that's what we're finding,
trying to find in the portals.

527
00:22:33,390 --> 00:22:35,700
Like that's what we're
working towards, you know?

528
00:22:35,700 --> 00:22:38,700
And it, I mean, look,
it's about, it's, it's.

529
00:22:39,270 --> 00:22:42,300
All relationships, all quality
relationships are built on trust, right?

530
00:22:42,300 --> 00:22:44,940
Like, and it's trying to make
sure that they understand.

531
00:22:44,940 --> 00:22:47,820
Like, we are going to, we are gonna
learn how to trust each other.

532
00:22:48,180 --> 00:22:50,430
We are gonna learn how to be
vulnerable with each other and be

533
00:22:50,430 --> 00:22:53,460
real with each other because we're
gonna love the heck out of you.

534
00:22:53,460 --> 00:22:54,960
But we're, we're gonna coach you too.

535
00:22:54,960 --> 00:22:56,700
Like, it's gonna, we're
gonna tell you the truth.

536
00:22:57,150 --> 00:23:04,170
Um, and we want guys that want to be
here for Old Dominion, be here for their

537
00:23:04,170 --> 00:23:07,380
teammates, and they wanna leave a lasting
legacy, not a guy that's just kind of

538
00:23:07,380 --> 00:23:09,870
a one and done and, and bounce, right?

539
00:23:09,870 --> 00:23:12,960
I mean, that's, it's just, that's,
it's too transactional that way.

540
00:23:12,960 --> 00:23:15,540
And unfortunately that's kind
of what has been created.

541
00:23:15,540 --> 00:23:20,400
But it's the world that we live in and
it doesn't, you know, we can still double

542
00:23:20,400 --> 00:23:23,550
down and have really quality relationships
with our guys and with our recruits.

543
00:23:23,550 --> 00:23:27,360
I mean, that's something that we can
be very intentional about, uh, because.

544
00:23:27,764 --> 00:23:31,365
It's what has worked in the past with
players, you know, it's what's worked

545
00:23:31,365 --> 00:23:34,725
in the past and that's why those guys
are so loyal and they care so much about

546
00:23:34,725 --> 00:23:38,745
this program is because it's, it's,
it's not, it's been more than that.

547
00:23:38,745 --> 00:23:41,504
It's been more about just, Hey
man, how far can you hit the ball?

548
00:23:41,504 --> 00:23:42,764
Or how hard you can you throw it.

549
00:23:42,764 --> 00:23:46,470
It's like, how can we help you get
prepared for when you leave here?

550
00:23:46,470 --> 00:23:49,455
Um, and that's what it's
all about, you know?

551
00:23:49,455 --> 00:23:50,895
And that's, that's what
we're chasing, have.

552
00:23:52,860 --> 00:23:56,520
That's why you have those three coaches
you mentioned in, in Keane and, and Ryan

553
00:23:56,520 --> 00:23:58,980
Moore and, and Pond, pond helping you out.

554
00:23:58,980 --> 00:24:01,290
Why Caron can't wait to
come back and help out.

555
00:24:01,290 --> 00:24:04,530
I mean that's, that, that exact
thing you're, you're working on

556
00:24:04,530 --> 00:24:06,929
is, is showing itself just in the
guys that are helping you out.

557
00:24:07,290 --> 00:24:09,689
No doubt those guys came back over
there, decided to work for free.

558
00:24:09,689 --> 00:24:09,780
Yeah.

559
00:24:12,054 --> 00:24:15,419
It's like, alright, cool boys, you
know, and they're, and they're awesome.

560
00:24:15,419 --> 00:24:18,389
Like they've been, they've had
a huge impact on our program.

561
00:24:18,510 --> 00:24:20,669
Um, and they've been, they've been great.

562
00:24:21,149 --> 00:24:23,760
Um, but that, that's what we're
looking for in the portal.

563
00:24:23,760 --> 00:24:25,590
That's what we're looking
for in high school ranks.

564
00:24:25,590 --> 00:24:29,250
Like, I don't think, you know, like
just because we have the portal and

565
00:24:29,250 --> 00:24:33,120
it's there and it's a real thing,
like it doesn't change how we.

566
00:24:33,855 --> 00:24:37,455
Like, like the, the nuts and the bolts
of what makes this program special.

567
00:24:37,455 --> 00:24:39,945
Like, we're still looking to
build from the inside out.

568
00:24:39,945 --> 00:24:43,245
Like get some high school players,
develop our high school players, you

569
00:24:43,245 --> 00:24:44,955
know, maybe from the middle out, right?

570
00:24:44,955 --> 00:24:48,165
Like get the middle, middle of the
field guys from a positional standpoint.

571
00:24:48,345 --> 00:24:48,405
Yeah.

572
00:24:48,465 --> 00:24:49,665
Develop them, right.

573
00:24:50,085 --> 00:24:52,605
And then trickle in some, some JC hitters.

574
00:24:52,635 --> 00:24:55,335
And then, you know, if we need portal
hitters, portal hitters, that's gonna

575
00:24:55,335 --> 00:24:56,895
be the plan for on the mountain.

576
00:24:56,895 --> 00:24:59,685
It's been, you look at the track
record since Coach Marin's been here,

577
00:24:59,925 --> 00:25:03,555
that guy's been incredible about
developing our high school arms.

578
00:25:03,705 --> 00:25:03,945
Okay.

579
00:25:03,945 --> 00:25:06,225
And that, that's always gonna
stay our bread and butter.

580
00:25:06,225 --> 00:25:09,135
We're gonna go get high school arms, we're
gonna develop 'em, we're gonna coach 'em.

581
00:25:09,525 --> 00:25:13,275
And then if we need to, then we can go
mix in the portal arms, you know, which

582
00:25:13,275 --> 00:25:14,895
is what obviously we're doing right now.

583
00:25:14,895 --> 00:25:19,155
So, um, it doesn't get, and we're
not gonna get away from who we are.

584
00:25:19,395 --> 00:25:20,565
It's just like anything.

585
00:25:20,565 --> 00:25:21,735
It's just times are different.

586
00:25:21,735 --> 00:25:25,875
So we need to just, you need to get
creative, understand who you are

587
00:25:25,935 --> 00:25:29,745
as a program, you know, buy into
that identity, and then just adjust

588
00:25:29,745 --> 00:25:32,145
slightly where you need to, you know.

589
00:25:33,120 --> 00:25:33,780
Absolutely.

590
00:25:34,050 --> 00:25:36,090
Well, we, uh, we have
Coach Fenwood backstage.

591
00:25:36,090 --> 00:25:38,879
I'm gonna go ahead and bring
him on to join the party here.

592
00:25:39,780 --> 00:25:39,990
There you go.

593
00:25:39,990 --> 00:25:40,290
Hey, Vinny.

594
00:25:40,290 --> 00:25:40,950
How's it going?

595
00:25:40,975 --> 00:25:41,715
What's up guys?

596
00:25:41,735 --> 00:25:43,075
Hey, what's up man?

597
00:25:43,075 --> 00:25:43,235
How

598
00:25:43,315 --> 00:25:43,595
I doing?

599
00:25:43,975 --> 00:25:44,669
What's up, dude?

600
00:25:44,669 --> 00:25:45,030
Doing good.

601
00:25:45,030 --> 00:25:45,629
How you been?

602
00:25:46,530 --> 00:25:46,980
Great.

603
00:25:47,250 --> 00:25:47,610
Great.

604
00:25:47,610 --> 00:25:52,050
Had a great Father's Day weekend and,
um, I was looking on a thing while I was

605
00:25:52,050 --> 00:25:55,740
listening to h Um, this is episode 20,

606
00:25:56,370 --> 00:25:57,655
episode 20 this season.

607
00:25:58,014 --> 00:25:59,610
I think we did 13 or 15 last

608
00:25:59,610 --> 00:25:59,940
year.

609
00:26:00,540 --> 00:26:01,260
How about that?

610
00:26:01,560 --> 00:26:02,190
That's pretty cool.

611
00:26:02,190 --> 00:26:02,460
Yeah,

612
00:26:03,120 --> 00:26:04,260
man, it's, it's wild.

613
00:26:04,260 --> 00:26:08,790
I know the, the fans were definitely
excited to, uh, hear, hear from both

614
00:26:08,790 --> 00:26:12,540
of you in terms of like, recruiting and
portal and, and all of that good stuff.

615
00:26:12,540 --> 00:26:15,840
But, uh, you, you've mentioned a lot
about the, the pictures that have come

616
00:26:15,840 --> 00:26:20,190
outta here from, from Marin and can't go
without talking about the guys that are

617
00:26:20,190 --> 00:26:24,720
going to the combine starting tomorrow
with Ben Brown will be out in Arizona.

618
00:26:24,720 --> 00:26:28,365
I. Um, I know they got that invite
I think, when we were in Montgomery.

619
00:26:28,665 --> 00:26:30,975
Uh, but it's pretty cool to kind
of see that come to fruition now

620
00:26:30,975 --> 00:26:34,185
where they're gonna be up there with
kind of the top 300 draft eligible

621
00:26:34,185 --> 00:26:36,104
guys, uh, showing what they can do.

622
00:26:37,004 --> 00:26:37,334
Yeah.

623
00:26:37,334 --> 00:26:41,294
And, and we're the only team in the
Sunbelt that's got two pitchers going.

624
00:26:41,774 --> 00:26:45,584
Um, only, only a couple
teams have two players going.

625
00:26:46,155 --> 00:26:51,495
Um, but we've got two arms and you know, I
think it's, you look around and, you know,

626
00:26:51,495 --> 00:26:56,175
we got a chance to have three pitchers
drafted in the top 10 rounds, I think

627
00:26:56,175 --> 00:27:01,034
solidly this year with how Blake's kind
of moving up people's boards as well.

628
00:27:01,034 --> 00:27:03,344
So, um, that's kind of neat.

629
00:27:03,495 --> 00:27:07,784
Uh, and there won't be a handful of
teams probably that can say that.

630
00:27:07,875 --> 00:27:10,845
In, in the country, no matter what level.

631
00:27:11,295 --> 00:27:13,335
Um, so that's, that's nice.

632
00:27:13,335 --> 00:27:16,845
And like I heard h talking about it,
you know, Mike does a really good

633
00:27:16,845 --> 00:27:19,335
job with those kids developing 'em.

634
00:27:19,335 --> 00:27:25,245
And I think the other part of that is, is
so far they've stayed, uh, even the good

635
00:27:25,245 --> 00:27:28,965
ones have stayed and, you know, we haven't
had any money to bribe him to stay.

636
00:27:31,905 --> 00:27:33,975
Uh, we're work, working
on working on that.

637
00:27:34,275 --> 00:27:40,695
Hey, I was on the phone with Kevin Gibbs,
um, this afternoon for a while talking

638
00:27:40,695 --> 00:27:46,065
about some fundraising things, and he said
he's heading out with a bunch of guys.

639
00:27:46,065 --> 00:27:51,495
He played, you know, uh, with here, that
they still stay in touch constantly and

640
00:27:51,825 --> 00:27:56,085
they're going out to see Mac C and they're
taking their wives out for the weekend.

641
00:27:56,235 --> 00:27:56,295
Yeah.

642
00:27:56,715 --> 00:27:59,535
And watching the Royals play, and
they're all gonna have dinner.

643
00:27:59,535 --> 00:28:02,565
And those, those are the
things that, that, you know.

644
00:28:03,345 --> 00:28:05,505
Make you feel good about your alma mater.

645
00:28:05,505 --> 00:28:10,425
And, uh, we were talking about that with a
couple, you know, we've had a few kids in

646
00:28:10,425 --> 00:28:15,075
on visits in the transfer portal and, you
know, where's your homecoming gonna be?

647
00:28:15,075 --> 00:28:17,325
Like, what's gonna, what are
you gonna consider your alma

648
00:28:17,325 --> 00:28:19,845
mater and those relationships?

649
00:28:19,845 --> 00:28:25,395
And, um, we are still looking for the
right fit, you know, in that like, like

650
00:28:25,395 --> 00:28:28,065
h said, the fit is, is a big part of it.

651
00:28:28,245 --> 00:28:30,975
And we've had a few kids in on
visits and it's funny, you know, you

652
00:28:30,975 --> 00:28:33,615
text, uh, hey, thanks for coming.

653
00:28:33,615 --> 00:28:34,785
Really appreciate it.

654
00:28:35,145 --> 00:28:37,065
Uh, hope you wanna be a monarch.

655
00:28:37,095 --> 00:28:40,815
Um, we're, we're obviously
checking them out while they're

656
00:28:40,815 --> 00:28:42,885
checking us out to see about fits.

657
00:28:42,885 --> 00:28:48,285
And it's usually very telling, uh, the
text you get back, you know, is the

658
00:28:48,285 --> 00:28:53,415
kid genuinely interested, uh, you get a
certain text, is you just kind of like

659
00:28:53,415 --> 00:28:53,955
dating,

660
00:28:54,405 --> 00:28:55,695
playing the PT game.

661
00:28:55,695 --> 00:28:56,565
Yeah, totally.

662
00:28:56,805 --> 00:29:00,225
And, uh, get, send you the
kind of generic vanilla.

663
00:29:00,660 --> 00:29:01,200
Deal.

664
00:29:01,200 --> 00:29:03,600
And you're like, all right, well that,
well that one's probably not gonna work.

665
00:29:03,600 --> 00:29:09,300
But I, I think, you know, to echo
what, what h said regarding, I mean,

666
00:29:09,330 --> 00:29:17,070
I'm telling you, h and Mike and Paul
and Ryan and, and John Keane and

667
00:29:17,070 --> 00:29:22,500
Brandon Pond man, them dudes have been
grinding in there for two straight

668
00:29:22,500 --> 00:29:24,720
weeks since this portal opened up.

669
00:29:25,110 --> 00:29:28,889
Uh, and even before that, 'cause you
had the grads and, um, you know, the

670
00:29:28,889 --> 00:29:33,090
under, uh, other, other school guys
that were already in it, but just to,

671
00:29:33,870 --> 00:29:37,260
we've learned some good lessons, I
think through the first few years of

672
00:29:37,260 --> 00:29:41,190
this and applying those and kind of
filtering what we were looking for.

673
00:29:41,190 --> 00:29:44,430
And, um, it's amazing
the job they've done.

674
00:29:44,430 --> 00:29:48,690
I mean, just today I was talking to an
agent and he mentioned the kid's name

675
00:29:49,200 --> 00:29:53,850
from the school, uh, uh, that, and,
and the kid put up fantastic numbers.

676
00:29:54,210 --> 00:29:56,550
And I went in and, and asked Ryan Moore.

677
00:29:56,939 --> 00:30:00,780
And he said, yeah, I banged him
because the numbers are great.

678
00:30:01,110 --> 00:30:04,050
But when I looked at the video,
he just looked like a kind of a

679
00:30:04,050 --> 00:30:07,020
first face only kind of clogger,
and we weren't looking for that.

680
00:30:07,470 --> 00:30:09,389
He showed it to me and I
was like, you know what?

681
00:30:09,389 --> 00:30:09,870
You're right.

682
00:30:10,080 --> 00:30:15,360
And this is such a great experience
for these kids, like to get to do this,

683
00:30:15,810 --> 00:30:20,490
um, at this level and have to vet. I
mean, how many players probably Hayes,

684
00:30:20,490 --> 00:30:22,590
have, have those guys gone through?

685
00:30:22,649 --> 00:30:23,010
I mean, every,

686
00:30:24,360 --> 00:30:26,699
every bit of probably
a thousand, you know?

687
00:30:26,699 --> 00:30:26,909
Yeah.

688
00:30:26,970 --> 00:30:27,629
At least.

689
00:30:27,629 --> 00:30:30,750
I mean, at least like it's, and
they're, it's could be more than that.

690
00:30:31,050 --> 00:30:31,679
And they're learning.

691
00:30:31,710 --> 00:30:35,070
'cause they're like, all right, hey, this
guy looks pretty good at Hadra, or Paul

692
00:30:35,070 --> 00:30:38,790
or Mike will get on there and go, all
right, man, I, I'm not, I don't like it

693
00:30:38,790 --> 00:30:43,830
because of this, you know, this number
or this visual or, or whatever it is.

694
00:30:44,280 --> 00:30:48,689
And that's a fantastic learning
tool for them as young coaches.

695
00:30:49,064 --> 00:30:53,745
They're gonna be much better recruiters
because of this process as well.

696
00:30:53,745 --> 00:30:55,574
So it's helping them out too.

697
00:30:55,574 --> 00:31:00,524
And they, they, you know, to their
credit man, they dove right in and

698
00:31:00,945 --> 00:31:02,985
they, they've done a fantastic job.

699
00:31:02,985 --> 00:31:07,544
I mean, the kids we got coming in
are all really good and, and seem

700
00:31:07,544 --> 00:31:09,615
to be really, really good kids.

701
00:31:09,855 --> 00:31:11,415
So we're excited about that.

702
00:31:12,585 --> 00:31:15,735
Am I correct that you have
already had at least one guy?

703
00:31:16,095 --> 00:31:16,875
Um, we've had a

704
00:31:16,875 --> 00:31:18,165
few, yeah, we've had a few.

705
00:31:18,169 --> 00:31:18,260
Okay.

706
00:31:18,264 --> 00:31:23,564
We've got more coming this week and, um,
you know, hoping to have some news on a

707
00:31:23,564 --> 00:31:25,485
few of 'em here in the next, you know.

708
00:31:25,949 --> 00:31:26,850
Week certainly.

709
00:31:26,850 --> 00:31:29,159
So, uh, it's a busy time, man.

710
00:31:29,159 --> 00:31:33,270
It's like, you know, every morning
we're talking about it and, um, we

711
00:31:33,270 --> 00:31:37,320
were all at Freight House coffee this
morning, breaking it down on, on where

712
00:31:37,320 --> 00:31:40,830
we're at and all that, and hopefully
the next couple weeks will give us some

713
00:31:40,830 --> 00:31:42,840
clarity on, on some of these things.

714
00:31:42,840 --> 00:31:48,209
And you got, you still got another trickle
down effect coming, um mm-hmm in the next,

715
00:31:48,209 --> 00:31:52,350
you know, portal's probably open for a
couple more weeks and you're gonna get

716
00:31:52,350 --> 00:31:56,475
some other guys that, you know, some teams
sign these guys outta the portal, right.

717
00:31:56,615 --> 00:31:59,970
So now that guy coming, I gotta, he's
going in the portal and, you know,

718
00:31:59,970 --> 00:32:01,649
you still got some of that happening.

719
00:32:02,010 --> 00:32:02,760
Certainly.

720
00:32:02,760 --> 00:32:07,889
Um, and we're just trying to stay on
coaching changes, just things like that.

721
00:32:07,889 --> 00:32:09,659
Stay on top of all of it.

722
00:32:10,980 --> 00:32:11,100
Yeah.

723
00:32:11,100 --> 00:32:12,209
There's a lot moving.

724
00:32:12,209 --> 00:32:15,030
And I feel like the portal is kind
of like the coaching carousel just

725
00:32:15,030 --> 00:32:19,199
with, you know, 5,000 people instead
of usually, you know, 20 to 25.

726
00:32:19,679 --> 00:32:23,580
Uh, but there, not to veer off ODU
too much, but there was a pretty big

727
00:32:23,580 --> 00:32:27,540
coaching change that impacted Virginia
with Oak going to Mississippi State.

728
00:32:27,780 --> 00:32:30,540
And then Chris Pollard coming
in from Duke to UVA, brought

729
00:32:30,540 --> 00:32:31,980
really his best hitter with him.

730
00:32:32,639 --> 00:32:34,050
Uh, what were your thoughts?

731
00:32:34,050 --> 00:32:36,990
And you saw that Oak was heading
down to, uh, to Mississippi State.

732
00:32:38,429 --> 00:32:39,764
Yeah, I mean, he, he

733
00:32:39,870 --> 00:32:40,919
doubled his salary.

734
00:32:40,919 --> 00:32:41,669
That's my first thought.

735
00:32:45,270 --> 00:32:48,270
It's 2.9 million is a lot more than 1.5.

736
00:32:48,270 --> 00:32:50,100
I guess you can, uh, say that.

737
00:32:50,550 --> 00:32:51,210
Um.

738
00:32:51,975 --> 00:32:56,925
But you know, just Mississippi State's,
one of the probably top 10 resourced

739
00:32:56,925 --> 00:33:02,715
programs in the whole country with um,
definitely a top 10 in, in facilities and,

740
00:33:03,045 --> 00:33:07,365
you know, they're used to winning there
and obviously you gotta, you have to win.

741
00:33:07,695 --> 00:33:10,575
Um, 'cause they're coming off
firing a coach who won the national

742
00:33:10,575 --> 00:33:11,835
championship three years ago.

743
00:33:11,925 --> 00:33:15,195
So, uh, Oaks got a national
championship of his own.

744
00:33:15,195 --> 00:33:18,075
He brought his whole, basically his
whole staff down there with him.

745
00:33:18,705 --> 00:33:19,695
They'll do just fine.

746
00:33:19,695 --> 00:33:23,805
They know what they're doing and I,
I think Virginia hired a good guy,

747
00:33:24,105 --> 00:33:29,504
hired a, you know, guy from Virginia
and he's done a fantastic job at Duke.

748
00:33:29,850 --> 00:33:32,400
Um, you know, Chris is a good person.

749
00:33:32,400 --> 00:33:33,870
He is a good coach, obviously.

750
00:33:33,870 --> 00:33:38,790
And, um, you know, I think that was a,
a really good hire for them and they

751
00:33:38,790 --> 00:33:40,590
got it done fast, which they needed to.

752
00:33:41,370 --> 00:33:42,240
So, so you,

753
00:33:42,240 --> 00:33:43,770
you already, uh, knew Chris Pollard?

754
00:33:43,770 --> 00:33:45,330
You'll be, you'll be talking Yeah,

755
00:33:45,330 --> 00:33:46,470
it is how old I am.

756
00:33:46,470 --> 00:33:48,900
I, I saw Chris Pollard
pitching high school.

757
00:33:50,615 --> 00:33:53,730
He, he went to, I don't even know
if it's still a school anymore.

758
00:33:53,730 --> 00:33:56,970
He went to VES Virginia
Episcopal School in Lynchburg.

759
00:33:57,840 --> 00:34:02,460
And, um, Annette and I actually,
Annette actually went with me and,

760
00:34:02,460 --> 00:34:06,090
um, we went, I still remember driving
across that mountain from Lexington.

761
00:34:06,090 --> 00:34:09,030
I was at VMI and, uh, he wasn't very good.

762
00:34:09,420 --> 00:34:15,330
Um, true was, uh, and, and so we didn't, I
think he ended up walking on at Davidson.

763
00:34:15,330 --> 00:34:19,500
He was a very good pitcher at Davidson,
uh, kind of developed himself and then,

764
00:34:19,920 --> 00:34:22,980
uh, has had a fantastic coaching career.

765
00:34:25,214 --> 00:34:27,824
Well, Hager, I'll, I'll
tee one up for you here.

766
00:34:27,855 --> 00:34:30,884
'cause there is at least one
publicly known transfer portal.

767
00:34:30,884 --> 00:34:33,495
Commit to Old Dominion and I I tee you up.

768
00:34:33,495 --> 00:34:35,835
That's Marcus Van Stein from VMI.

769
00:34:36,250 --> 00:34:36,540
Yeah.

770
00:34:36,884 --> 00:34:37,154
Yeah.

771
00:34:37,154 --> 00:34:37,995
We're we're pumped

772
00:34:37,995 --> 00:34:38,895
about Marcus.

773
00:34:38,984 --> 00:34:43,185
Uh, he, um, he committed
to us while we were there.

774
00:34:43,185 --> 00:34:45,884
And, um, you'll talk to CB man.

775
00:34:45,884 --> 00:34:48,045
I cannot wait for you to see his energy.

776
00:34:48,045 --> 00:34:49,185
His energy.

777
00:34:49,185 --> 00:34:52,514
No, I Have you seen, so I, have you
seen any pictures for the chili peppers?

778
00:34:52,995 --> 00:34:53,205
No.

779
00:34:53,205 --> 00:34:55,125
So I, I saw him in high school.

780
00:34:55,125 --> 00:34:57,315
'cause back we, we had a couple of
Hanover kids who were supposed to

781
00:34:57,315 --> 00:35:01,125
come to us, you know, one kind of,
uh, screwed us and one got drafted.

782
00:35:01,335 --> 00:35:03,615
Uh, but I saw him pitch several times
where Hanover, I've seen him pitch

783
00:35:03,615 --> 00:35:06,165
several times for the chili peppers there.

784
00:35:06,165 --> 00:35:06,734
Yeah.

785
00:35:06,734 --> 00:35:07,125
In the summer.

786
00:35:07,125 --> 00:35:09,345
I saw him pitch, uh, this spring with VMI.

787
00:35:09,645 --> 00:35:09,825
Yeah.

788
00:35:09,825 --> 00:35:11,384
I'm, I'm, I love it.

789
00:35:11,384 --> 00:35:12,285
I'm a big fan.

790
00:35:12,345 --> 00:35:16,424
Um, was he, now, was he a guy that
you had recruited and then he He was.

791
00:35:16,424 --> 00:35:17,654
So he left when he got there.

792
00:35:18,165 --> 00:35:19,725
He was, so, he, um.

793
00:35:20,640 --> 00:35:24,150
He was at Hanover and uh, they were
playing Lee Davis, who at the time was,

794
00:35:24,180 --> 00:35:26,250
was the time Lee Davis on Mechanicsville.

795
00:35:26,250 --> 00:35:30,900
And I was there to watch a kid pitch
for Lee Davis and this kid comes

796
00:35:30,900 --> 00:35:32,820
out, is that plumber just sinking?

797
00:35:32,850 --> 00:35:33,120
Yep.

798
00:35:33,120 --> 00:35:34,440
And just sinking and sliding it.

799
00:35:34,950 --> 00:35:39,990
And he uh, man, I was like, man, like
this guy's good, this guy's awesome.

800
00:35:39,990 --> 00:35:40,800
Like who's this guy?

801
00:35:40,800 --> 00:35:48,090
And you know, and just athletic and just a
fast mover and um, and just the first time

802
00:35:48,090 --> 00:35:52,500
we talked to him as a staff, it was clear
like this, this dude's energy was awesome.

803
00:35:52,920 --> 00:35:55,380
Um, and he is an ultra competitive kid.

804
00:35:55,770 --> 00:35:58,590
Um, and, and it was what's really
cool is you don't see a lot of guys

805
00:35:58,590 --> 00:36:01,920
graduate from VMI in three years,
but he came in with so many credits

806
00:36:01,920 --> 00:36:03,390
that he was able to do it in three.

807
00:36:03,779 --> 00:36:06,569
Which is why we're able
to, to land him right now.

808
00:36:06,720 --> 00:36:08,730
Um, so we're pumped about him.

809
00:36:08,734 --> 00:36:10,770
And, and Brandon Pa had a
connection 'cause Brandon

810
00:36:10,770 --> 00:36:12,149
pitched with the Chili Pepper.

811
00:36:12,149 --> 00:36:16,455
So they had that connection and,
um, so, and he is, it's, it's a,

812
00:36:16,564 --> 00:36:19,319
he's gonna be a really cool fit for
the staff because he can kind of

813
00:36:19,319 --> 00:36:20,640
look, do a little bit of everything.

814
00:36:20,850 --> 00:36:25,140
He can start, he's closed before he
is been that long relief bulk guy.

815
00:36:25,529 --> 00:36:29,460
Um, but he's a strike thrower
that can sink it and slide it and

816
00:36:29,460 --> 00:36:32,669
he's ultra competitive, so it's
gonna be, it's a fantastic fit.

817
00:36:33,990 --> 00:36:34,589
I love that.

818
00:36:34,589 --> 00:36:34,770
Yeah.

819
00:36:34,770 --> 00:36:36,899
I, and he is one of those guys,
I think when you look at his.

820
00:36:37,530 --> 00:36:40,770
Numbers at VMI, you know, it was like
ERA and stuff seems a little high, but

821
00:36:40,770 --> 00:36:44,130
then you, you kinda think about like,
well, it's not an easy place to pitch.

822
00:36:44,430 --> 00:36:49,260
And then his summer numbers like at
all, like, and his summer numbers

823
00:36:49,260 --> 00:36:50,130
have been really, really good.

824
00:36:50,130 --> 00:36:52,410
I know Toms I know he had, I didn't
get a chance, it was Rain the

825
00:36:52,410 --> 00:36:54,360
other night, but he pitched three
scoreless the other night up a year

826
00:36:54,360 --> 00:36:55,800
in, in Hampton against the pilots.

827
00:36:55,800 --> 00:36:58,440
I mean, he is, he's pitched really
well and I, I, I'm with you.

828
00:36:58,440 --> 00:36:59,580
I think I'm excited about it.

829
00:36:59,580 --> 00:37:00,510
I always liked him.

830
00:37:00,750 --> 00:37:02,820
Um, guy, I've never, I've never
really had a chance to talk to him.

831
00:37:02,820 --> 00:37:04,530
I'm looking forward to get to meet
him so that, that that's, yeah.

832
00:37:04,815 --> 00:37:05,215
You'll really like him.

833
00:37:05,670 --> 00:37:06,510
You'll really like it.

834
00:37:06,570 --> 00:37:06,840
Yeah.

835
00:37:06,960 --> 00:37:07,140
Love that.

836
00:37:07,710 --> 00:37:11,190
Sounds like he could slide into
that old Jacob Gomez role of

837
00:37:11,310 --> 00:37:12,750
he can come shut a game down.

838
00:37:12,750 --> 00:37:14,250
He can start, he can do whatever.

839
00:37:14,250 --> 00:37:15,600
He is just gonna go out there and battle.

840
00:37:17,640 --> 00:37:17,730
He

841
00:37:17,730 --> 00:37:17,910
is,

842
00:37:17,910 --> 00:37:18,990
he is definitely gonna battle.

843
00:37:19,080 --> 00:37:23,670
Um, so it's gonna be, yeah, he's, he
is, it's gonna be a really good fit.

844
00:37:23,670 --> 00:37:24,960
You guys will really enjoy watching him.

845
00:37:25,125 --> 00:37:25,185
A

846
00:37:26,055 --> 00:37:28,485
couple of VMI guys bringing in a VMI guy.

847
00:37:28,485 --> 00:37:29,265
What a shocker.

848
00:37:31,780 --> 00:37:32,325
He didn't, he

849
00:37:32,325 --> 00:37:33,345
didn't get enough of it.

850
00:37:33,345 --> 00:37:34,640
He needed one more year of it.

851
00:37:38,205 --> 00:37:38,415
Yeah.

852
00:37:38,415 --> 00:37:42,015
Well, speaking of, of Jacob Gomez,
obviously he got promoted up

853
00:37:42,015 --> 00:37:44,835
to high a ball with, with Rome
and the Braves organization.

854
00:37:45,255 --> 00:37:48,165
I don't, I, I'm hesitant to say this
because I'm gonna knock on wood and

855
00:37:48,165 --> 00:37:49,335
I need everyone else do as well.

856
00:37:49,575 --> 00:37:53,145
He's still yet to give up an earn run
in aid innings pitch since moving up

857
00:37:53,145 --> 00:37:56,355
to high A and I think that's really
important for a guy who was undrafted

858
00:37:56,355 --> 00:37:58,335
to just continue to flourish like that.

859
00:37:58,545 --> 00:38:01,275
Have y'all been able to see any
video or catch up with him at all?

860
00:38:04,080 --> 00:38:08,730
I haven't talked to him this summer to,
you know, since he was here right before

861
00:38:08,730 --> 00:38:13,170
Spring, uh, working out with our guys a
little bit, but man, he, he is that guy.

862
00:38:13,170 --> 00:38:14,280
I mean, he is good enough.

863
00:38:14,280 --> 00:38:15,360
Like yeah.

864
00:38:15,360 --> 00:38:19,800
You know, he, he's, he's that weird,
weird lefty with that low release

865
00:38:19,800 --> 00:38:22,530
height and he, he can be tough.

866
00:38:22,530 --> 00:38:26,730
So it doesn't, I'm not, I don't think
any of us are surprised by that.

867
00:38:26,970 --> 00:38:30,300
And he is mean enough to get out
there and, and, and fight you.

868
00:38:30,780 --> 00:38:33,480
So I, I think, no, no
one's surprised by that.

869
00:38:33,480 --> 00:38:37,740
He could be that guy that keep, just
keep on moving on up, uh, and end

870
00:38:37,740 --> 00:38:41,700
up, you know, surprisingly, all of a
sudden you look up and all of a sudden

871
00:38:41,700 --> 00:38:45,180
he is at aaa and then you never know
what can happen, you know, double.

872
00:38:45,180 --> 00:38:45,630
I'm a brace

873
00:38:45,630 --> 00:38:46,620
fan, I'm all for

874
00:38:46,620 --> 00:38:46,710
it.

875
00:38:46,775 --> 00:38:46,855
I,

876
00:38:47,400 --> 00:38:47,460
I'm

877
00:38:47,460 --> 00:38:48,480
my Gomez

878
00:38:49,650 --> 00:38:52,470
and he stays healthy, you
know, he is been very durable.

879
00:38:52,755 --> 00:38:56,444
So he, he is not one of those
guys that's been banged up and

880
00:38:56,444 --> 00:38:57,435
you gotta worry about that.

881
00:38:57,435 --> 00:39:00,825
I mean, he's gonna post like, he's gonna
be ready to throw when you need him to.

882
00:39:00,825 --> 00:39:03,015
And I think that's pretty cool.

883
00:39:03,315 --> 00:39:08,415
Um, I was reading a thing somewhere,
I saw it on Facebook today, it was a

884
00:39:08,505 --> 00:39:16,815
unbelievable stat and said whatever the
year was, uh, Wal Walter Austin threw an

885
00:39:16,815 --> 00:39:21,975
18 inning complete game and they said, uh.

886
00:39:23,310 --> 00:39:25,170
They didn't keep pitch counts by then.

887
00:39:25,170 --> 00:39:26,825
Who knows how many pitches he threw.

888
00:39:26,925 --> 00:39:30,990
He said the, the manager said the
only number he cared about was two.

889
00:39:31,410 --> 00:39:33,060
And he said, why two?

890
00:39:33,060 --> 00:39:35,940
He said, because he is got two
big balls between his legs.

891
00:39:41,685 --> 00:39:47,460
Oh, there's our pg pg joke
for there, there we go.

892
00:39:48,900 --> 00:39:49,980
Different game back then.

893
00:39:49,980 --> 00:39:50,520
For sure.

894
00:39:50,790 --> 00:39:52,260
I mean, think about 18

895
00:39:52,260 --> 00:39:52,560
inning.

896
00:39:52,740 --> 00:39:56,160
He threw like, yeah, he threw
two complete games in One.

897
00:39:56,250 --> 00:39:59,130
In one Audi Probably wouldn't have,

898
00:39:59,130 --> 00:40:01,860
uh, broken a window if he threw
the ball at it at that point.

899
00:40:02,340 --> 00:40:02,640
Yeah.

900
00:40:02,640 --> 00:40:03,060
Yeah.

901
00:40:03,690 --> 00:40:05,640
But you know, back then
they, they weren't there.

902
00:40:05,640 --> 00:40:08,670
No one, no one was finishing your game.

903
00:40:08,760 --> 00:40:08,880
No.

904
00:40:09,555 --> 00:40:10,890
No, that was your deal.

905
00:40:10,990 --> 00:40:11,210
So,

906
00:40:11,475 --> 00:40:13,904
no, that was, that was your day to
pitch when you were the pitcher.

907
00:40:14,400 --> 00:40:14,690
Yeah.

908
00:40:15,040 --> 00:40:15,330
Yeah.

909
00:40:15,890 --> 00:40:16,210
Absolutely.

910
00:40:16,210 --> 00:40:16,450
Well,

911
00:40:16,455 --> 00:40:18,975
I wanted ask you guys, you know, you're
in the middle of the portal, but then

912
00:40:18,975 --> 00:40:23,805
we also had, I think yesterday, uh, the
15th was the first day where you all

913
00:40:23,805 --> 00:40:26,654
were allowed to talk to 20, 27 graduates.

914
00:40:26,654 --> 00:40:30,015
So did you have to also
start in the middle of that?

915
00:40:30,015 --> 00:40:33,075
Like, uh, start calling up
some guys, sending some emails?

916
00:40:34,390 --> 00:40:34,610
No.

917
00:40:35,270 --> 00:40:35,490
No.

918
00:40:35,710 --> 00:40:35,930
No.

919
00:40:36,080 --> 00:40:36,370
Okay,

920
00:40:39,315 --> 00:40:39,345
okay.

921
00:40:39,345 --> 00:40:40,154
I didn't even, I didn't

922
00:40:40,154 --> 00:40:42,045
even know that was the
first day we could talk.

923
00:40:46,214 --> 00:40:49,065
But that tells you like how
much it's changed, right?

924
00:40:49,065 --> 00:40:53,475
It used to be the biggest day of the
recruiting year was the first day

925
00:40:53,475 --> 00:40:55,365
you could talk to rising juniors.

926
00:40:55,920 --> 00:41:03,660
Um, horizon Soft, whatever it became, and
now it's just another Tuesday, right, as

927
00:41:03,660 --> 00:41:09,360
the song says, because they're not, you
know, the value of those guys is much less

928
00:41:09,360 --> 00:41:14,790
because they're not gonna help you for a
long, long time, if ever, and people are

929
00:41:15,150 --> 00:41:20,549
spending their time, you know, because in
essence, what you're doing now, you know?

930
00:41:20,549 --> 00:41:20,880
Yeah.

931
00:41:20,880 --> 00:41:24,299
We'd love to have the backbone of our
program always be high school kids.

932
00:41:24,305 --> 00:41:26,160
We're, we're trying hard to do that.

933
00:41:26,549 --> 00:41:31,560
Um, it creates a little bit of
consistency, but you are building a

934
00:41:31,560 --> 00:41:36,779
different team every year now, and you're
just gonna have to marry yourself to that.

935
00:41:37,140 --> 00:41:42,450
And, but when you, when you can have
some, a core group of guys that have been

936
00:41:42,450 --> 00:41:48,240
in your program for a few years, that's
gonna help the message be more consistent.

937
00:41:48,750 --> 00:41:52,320
Um, and that, that's, you know, that's
what you're always shooting for.

938
00:41:52,800 --> 00:41:56,310
So, but you're gonna have to have those,
you know, you're talking about a guy

939
00:41:56,315 --> 00:42:01,920
that you're gonna call that maybe isn't
shaving yet, or driving, or you gonna call

940
00:42:01,920 --> 00:42:06,630
a guy that's, uh, you know, yeah, got a
beard and tattoos and hit, hits the ball

941
00:42:06,630 --> 00:42:09,420
out in the road, uh, when in the swings.

942
00:42:09,750 --> 00:42:15,025
So that's, that's the, the, you know,
the what you're trying to, right now,

943
00:42:16,485 --> 00:42:16,705
we.

944
00:42:19,095 --> 00:42:19,485
I'm sorry.

945
00:42:19,485 --> 00:42:20,025
H what was that?

946
00:42:20,205 --> 00:42:20,655
I was just gonna

947
00:42:20,655 --> 00:42:22,965
say, you know, it's a, it's
a time thing too, right?

948
00:42:22,965 --> 00:42:24,645
Like there's only a
certain amount of time.

949
00:42:24,645 --> 00:42:30,015
It's like you, you can chase chase those
guys now, but that's taken up time from

950
00:42:30,015 --> 00:42:32,175
guys that can help you in two months.

951
00:42:32,175 --> 00:42:32,505
Right.

952
00:42:33,015 --> 00:42:36,075
You know, so like those guys,
there's still plenty of time

953
00:42:36,075 --> 00:42:37,300
to get on those guys mm-hmm.

954
00:42:37,305 --> 00:42:39,645
And develop those relationships
and recruit those guys.

955
00:42:39,645 --> 00:42:43,125
And there's so much, there's so many
more events for those guys well into

956
00:42:43,125 --> 00:42:48,555
the fall and then next summer, you know,
like we only have this, we've got this

957
00:42:48,555 --> 00:42:53,025
two month, you know, three month period
essentially where we've gotta finish

958
00:42:53,025 --> 00:42:56,595
this roster, you know, and that's, that's
where this thing has changed so much

959
00:42:56,595 --> 00:43:02,145
is it's, it's expedited this recruiting
process for, you know, I don't know,

960
00:43:02,235 --> 00:43:04,335
maybe a quarter of our roster roughly.

961
00:43:04,365 --> 00:43:07,785
Like, and it's like champ packed
it in a couple months where it

962
00:43:07,785 --> 00:43:11,055
used to be, you know, literally
years here, recruiting guys.

963
00:43:11,055 --> 00:43:11,205
Yeah.

964
00:43:11,385 --> 00:43:14,745
You know, so that's where it's
so different and kind of learning

965
00:43:14,745 --> 00:43:16,815
the job as we go, per se.

966
00:43:16,845 --> 00:43:16,935
And

967
00:43:17,834 --> 00:43:20,984
what is, I'm glad they're not, uh,
committing the eighth graders anymore.

968
00:43:21,194 --> 00:43:23,984
That that was, you guys
never, ever did that.

969
00:43:23,984 --> 00:43:26,265
But that was, that was
one always crazy to me.

970
00:43:26,265 --> 00:43:28,694
I think, I think the only I can even
think off the top of my head that ever

971
00:43:28,694 --> 00:43:30,524
worked out was Ethan Anderson, UVA.

972
00:43:30,555 --> 00:43:34,875
He was, 'cause he was also like, he,
he had tattoos and, and that beard

973
00:43:34,875 --> 00:43:35,980
when he was eighth grade anyway.

974
00:43:37,919 --> 00:43:39,975
And Yogi Bear would say he was old when he

975
00:43:39,975 --> 00:43:40,575
was young.

976
00:43:41,140 --> 00:43:41,980
Yeah, exactly.

977
00:43:43,279 --> 00:43:45,825
Uh, what, what is the drop dead date?

978
00:43:45,825 --> 00:43:50,355
Is it basically the enrollment date
for the fall drop dead For what?

979
00:43:50,895 --> 00:43:53,415
Uh, to have guys who would
be playing fall ball for you?

980
00:43:53,415 --> 00:43:57,165
Is it basically just when you have to be
enrolled in the school for fall semester?

981
00:43:58,395 --> 00:43:59,504
Well, yeah.

982
00:43:59,504 --> 00:44:04,544
I mean the transfer portal guys,
you've got to, what is it, July 2nd, H

983
00:44:05,205 --> 00:44:06,944
Yeah, that's when the portal closes.

984
00:44:06,944 --> 00:44:08,355
But we can still.

985
00:44:09,090 --> 00:44:09,450
Right

986
00:44:09,450 --> 00:44:12,870
to get into the portal is July
2nd, and then after July 2nd, they

987
00:44:12,870 --> 00:44:14,400
can't get into the portal anymore.

988
00:44:14,490 --> 00:44:15,060
So Yeah.

989
00:44:15,570 --> 00:44:16,170
But once they're

990
00:44:16,170 --> 00:44:17,250
in, you can get 'em up.

991
00:44:17,250 --> 00:44:21,000
It's, every school's probably
different on deadline here.

992
00:44:21,000 --> 00:44:25,230
I mean, I don't know what the latest
we've gotten somebody in, uh, is,

993
00:44:25,230 --> 00:44:30,540
but there's some flexibility there,
obviously, um, you know, with guys,

994
00:44:30,540 --> 00:44:33,120
but every school, I mean, there's,
there's some places they've gotten

995
00:44:33,120 --> 00:44:34,980
guys in a week before school starts,

996
00:44:37,020 --> 00:44:37,800
you know, that's the thing.

997
00:44:37,800 --> 00:44:38,730
People say, oh, you got miss.

998
00:44:38,820 --> 00:44:40,380
I mean, there's a lot to do.

999
00:44:40,380 --> 00:44:42,395
I mean, you gotta find a place
that's a lot of stuff you got.

1000
00:44:42,570 --> 00:44:44,760
It's not just snapp your
fingers and it gets done.

1001
00:44:44,760 --> 00:44:46,020
There's logistical things.

1002
00:44:46,020 --> 00:44:49,590
I mean, we're working on housing,
you know, for our guys now.

1003
00:44:50,010 --> 00:44:51,870
Um, figuring all that out.

1004
00:44:51,870 --> 00:44:55,590
So, you know, when you guys are off
campus, there's a little bit more

1005
00:44:55,590 --> 00:44:59,220
for us to try to help with than
just sticking 'em in the dorms.

1006
00:45:00,570 --> 00:45:00,720
Yeah.

1007
00:45:01,140 --> 00:45:05,370
Uh, do you guys feel, and again, let
me just, I know, I know you'll tell me.

1008
00:45:05,370 --> 00:45:05,700
No.

1009
00:45:05,940 --> 00:45:09,360
Uh, but if, do you feel comfortable
talking about some of the high

1010
00:45:09,360 --> 00:45:13,950
school and guys we have coming
in the fall now, or are you able

1011
00:45:13,950 --> 00:45:15,570
to, or you save that for later?

1012
00:45:15,570 --> 00:45:15,840
Maybe?

1013
00:45:16,530 --> 00:45:17,880
Yeah, let's save that for a little.

1014
00:45:17,880 --> 00:45:20,490
That'd be a great conversation
for a little later in the summer.

1015
00:45:20,490 --> 00:45:22,470
I know we haven't big release yet.

1016
00:45:22,470 --> 00:45:23,940
You know who the, who they are.

1017
00:45:23,940 --> 00:45:24,330
Ccb.

1018
00:45:24,630 --> 00:45:26,490
I know, but maybe, um, that's good.

1019
00:45:26,940 --> 00:45:28,770
That would be a fun episode.

1020
00:45:28,830 --> 00:45:33,930
Maybe we'll get it all up and on the
website and we could elaborate on it.

1021
00:45:34,410 --> 00:45:35,340
Um, sounds great.

1022
00:45:35,790 --> 00:45:36,990
That'd be, that'd be fun.

1023
00:45:37,890 --> 00:45:39,330
That's a teaser right there.

1024
00:45:39,810 --> 00:45:40,125
There we go.

1025
00:45:40,185 --> 00:45:40,485
We love

1026
00:45:40,485 --> 00:45:40,565
it.

1027
00:45:41,370 --> 00:45:42,240
That works too.

1028
00:45:42,750 --> 00:45:43,050
Yeah.

1029
00:45:43,055 --> 00:45:43,380
There we go.

1030
00:45:43,595 --> 00:45:44,970
Look at, look at, look at this guy.

1031
00:45:44,970 --> 00:45:46,710
What a good manager of human beings.

1032
00:45:46,710 --> 00:45:47,160
Finny is.

1033
00:45:47,160 --> 00:45:48,570
What a, he gave me a no.

1034
00:45:48,570 --> 00:45:49,560
That sounded like a yes.

1035
00:45:49,560 --> 00:45:49,950
Look at that.

1036
00:45:51,570 --> 00:45:52,890
You should be a head coach or something.

1037
00:45:55,475 --> 00:45:58,350
Yeah, we just, we just keep massaging the.

1038
00:45:58,725 --> 00:46:00,854
You know, people stay tuned, right?

1039
00:46:00,915 --> 00:46:01,754
Like the tick one.

1040
00:46:02,504 --> 00:46:02,625
Yeah.

1041
00:46:02,625 --> 00:46:03,104
It's easier.

1042
00:46:03,104 --> 00:46:03,314
There we go.

1043
00:46:03,314 --> 00:46:03,615
So,

1044
00:46:04,125 --> 00:46:04,729
yeah, that's right.

1045
00:46:04,870 --> 00:46:07,665
We got, we got all the promo we
need for, whether that's episode

1046
00:46:07,785 --> 00:46:10,064
21 or 22 or whatever it may be.

1047
00:46:10,424 --> 00:46:10,694
Yeah.

1048
00:46:10,964 --> 00:46:11,834
How's the, um,

1049
00:46:12,075 --> 00:46:13,305
construction going right now?

1050
00:46:13,305 --> 00:46:13,694
Oh, sorry.

1051
00:46:14,084 --> 00:46:14,625
Yeah, yeah.

1052
00:46:14,625 --> 00:46:16,575
No, look, uh, we can talk about that.

1053
00:46:16,580 --> 00:46:19,964
Uh, uh, still, still look slow
'cause they're still doing the

1054
00:46:19,964 --> 00:46:24,194
underneath stuff, but the, okay,
you can actually see the footers,

1055
00:46:24,254 --> 00:46:30,584
um, and the layout of the buildings
more clearly now, which that's cool.

1056
00:46:30,584 --> 00:46:33,734
And then all the, you know,
that park avenue's torn up.

1057
00:46:33,734 --> 00:46:37,095
You got all the pipes running through
there, they're connecting everything.

1058
00:46:37,095 --> 00:46:41,234
And you know, the hope is by the
time guys get back here at the end

1059
00:46:41,234 --> 00:46:46,274
of August that some stuff is going up
because although we're gonna have to

1060
00:46:46,395 --> 00:46:51,825
work around it this fall as well, I
think it's gonna be really exciting.

1061
00:46:52,515 --> 00:46:57,375
To every day walk out there and
see something else go up and then,

1062
00:46:57,375 --> 00:47:01,665
oh, cool, look, the roof's going
on, or finish the locker room,

1063
00:47:01,665 --> 00:47:03,465
or, that's gonna be really neat.

1064
00:47:03,465 --> 00:47:05,955
I've never been a part of
that from that standpoint.

1065
00:47:05,955 --> 00:47:10,515
When I was at Auburn, we built
the, the, the sidelines out down

1066
00:47:10,515 --> 00:47:14,415
there and, um, you know, the stands
went all the way down the lines.

1067
00:47:14,775 --> 00:47:18,705
That was kind of cool, but it wasn't
anything like this is gonna be, um,

1068
00:47:19,515 --> 00:47:24,255
and, and you know, hey, you know, you
guys got, when they did the VMI, uh,

1069
00:47:24,285 --> 00:47:26,595
stadium, I mean, all of that is just fun.

1070
00:47:26,595 --> 00:47:30,315
I think it'll be exciting for this
group, you know, as they gotta kind

1071
00:47:30,315 --> 00:47:34,425
of work around some things this
fall for practice and all of that.

1072
00:47:34,425 --> 00:47:36,765
We're still going to be
having to, to do that.

1073
00:47:36,765 --> 00:47:40,215
But you know, when they finally
say, Hey, you guys can move in.

1074
00:47:40,215 --> 00:47:44,805
I mean, what a cool, exciting, fun
day that's gonna be for everyone.

1075
00:47:44,805 --> 00:47:48,615
And we're telling all these portal kids
that are in on visits, you know, Hey man.

1076
00:47:49,065 --> 00:47:55,035
Like when you go sit in that locker
next February or January, whenever

1077
00:47:55,035 --> 00:47:59,535
it is, um, you're gonna be the
first guy to ever be in that locker.

1078
00:47:59,535 --> 00:48:05,085
Like there's only, only one group can ever
say that and you'll be a part of that.

1079
00:48:05,085 --> 00:48:07,875
Like, that'll be yours, like brand new.

1080
00:48:08,475 --> 00:48:12,405
Um, so I was like, you ought to carve
your initials in the corner or something.

1081
00:48:14,520 --> 00:48:16,180
You know, CB

1082
00:48:16,185 --> 00:48:19,665
was here, there's some donor that's
like losing his mind right now.

1083
00:48:21,975 --> 00:48:23,775
Some car, brand new locker room.

1084
00:48:24,435 --> 00:48:25,035
I was thinking

1085
00:48:25,065 --> 00:48:25,634
about something.

1086
00:48:25,634 --> 00:48:28,395
I, I know that people have done
different things with lockers.

1087
00:48:28,420 --> 00:48:30,675
I, I think it'd be a neat legacy thing.

1088
00:48:30,945 --> 00:48:34,035
You know, some people get people
to sponsor lockers and I think it's

1089
00:48:34,035 --> 00:48:37,965
something we want to pursue for
potential rev share money as well.

1090
00:48:38,235 --> 00:48:43,035
But, um, I think it'd be neat to have a
smaller plaque and you put it somewhere on

1091
00:48:43,035 --> 00:48:47,415
the facing, um, you know, CB Wilkins 20.

1092
00:48:47,760 --> 00:48:49,350
Two to 2025.

1093
00:48:50,160 --> 00:48:50,250
Mm-hmm.

1094
00:48:50,380 --> 00:48:53,070
2025. And then the next guy
that's in there is that.

1095
00:48:53,070 --> 00:48:54,660
And so each guy Oh, yeah.

1096
00:48:54,780 --> 00:48:58,920
You know, has his big name on it,
gets to see, hey man, I was in Vinny

1097
00:48:58,920 --> 00:49:00,600
Paquantino who had this locker.

1098
00:49:00,605 --> 00:49:00,895
Yeah.

1099
00:49:01,170 --> 00:49:04,680
You know, you got some stuff to
own, you know, to, to live up to.

1100
00:49:05,190 --> 00:49:09,540
Um, and, and there's a, you know,
a brotherhood there, so to speak.

1101
00:49:09,540 --> 00:49:14,460
And I think that does create some, some
neat continuity within the, the alumni.

1102
00:49:14,520 --> 00:49:15,090
Well, that kind becomes a

1103
00:49:15,090 --> 00:49:17,610
thing too, then that guys
want to have that locker.

1104
00:49:17,610 --> 00:49:18,660
Oh, I wanna be at that locker.

1105
00:49:18,660 --> 00:49:21,180
'cause all the guys that been in
this locker have been the best.

1106
00:49:21,180 --> 00:49:24,150
And that becomes, you know, some,
somebody graduates and a guy who's been,

1107
00:49:24,150 --> 00:49:25,650
there's like, okay, that's my locker now.

1108
00:49:25,650 --> 00:49:25,830
You know?

1109
00:49:25,830 --> 00:49:25,890
Yeah.

1110
00:49:25,890 --> 00:49:26,010
That's,

1111
00:49:26,735 --> 00:49:27,015
yeah.

1112
00:49:27,600 --> 00:49:27,870
Yeah.

1113
00:49:27,870 --> 00:49:28,230
Yeah.

1114
00:49:28,650 --> 00:49:30,360
I, I think that, I think that'd be neat.

1115
00:49:30,360 --> 00:49:33,510
I think that's something we're gonna,
we're gonna try to look for, and

1116
00:49:33,510 --> 00:49:37,950
then we're gonna have a space in,
somewhere in the, the coaches area,

1117
00:49:38,010 --> 00:49:39,720
maybe in the hallway, wherever.

1118
00:49:39,720 --> 00:49:44,580
Um, Mike, Mike actually came up with
this idea where the guys can come in

1119
00:49:44,580 --> 00:49:46,680
and sign the board, the alumni, so.

1120
00:49:47,340 --> 00:49:51,330
They'll, uh, they'll connected
to the new, new place as well.

1121
00:49:52,410 --> 00:49:53,310
I love that idea.

1122
00:49:53,610 --> 00:49:56,670
I think we, and another, another teaser.

1123
00:49:58,440 --> 00:50:01,860
So my, my call with Kevin Gibbs
was a, a fundraising call.

1124
00:50:01,860 --> 00:50:08,010
He is gonna help be, um, kind of
our help me and John spearhead this.

1125
00:50:08,400 --> 00:50:14,040
Um, we're gonna put together a, a
list and a, a letter and just talk

1126
00:50:14,040 --> 00:50:17,880
to people about how important the,
the rev share piece of this is.

1127
00:50:17,880 --> 00:50:22,290
It's gonna be kind of like a, a monthly
pledge, you know, the old Clemson model,

1128
00:50:22,890 --> 00:50:25,050
IPTE, I pay 10 a year or whatever.

1129
00:50:25,050 --> 00:50:25,140
Mm-hmm.

1130
00:50:25,380 --> 00:50:25,470
But,

1131
00:50:25,620 --> 00:50:30,240
um, it, it'll be, you know, based
on can you give us 25 bucks a

1132
00:50:30,240 --> 00:50:31,620
month or something like that?

1133
00:50:31,680 --> 00:50:31,740
Yeah.

1134
00:50:32,100 --> 00:50:33,270
We're gonna hit our alumni.

1135
00:50:33,270 --> 00:50:37,230
We're gonna have our players, um,
hit people that are close to them.

1136
00:50:37,530 --> 00:50:40,080
Um, anybody that we can think about.

1137
00:50:40,080 --> 00:50:45,240
And so maybe that's something, uh, we
can work on, you know, together as well.

1138
00:50:46,439 --> 00:50:47,459
Sure it's here.

1139
00:50:47,459 --> 00:50:50,069
It's, it's, uh, necessary.

1140
00:50:50,310 --> 00:50:56,189
You know, we're, we're, we're trying to
get in that space and, um, where we can

1141
00:50:56,189 --> 00:51:00,779
have the ability to, to offer some rev
share money with, with, with these kids.

1142
00:51:00,779 --> 00:51:01,709
And we are doing that.

1143
00:51:02,009 --> 00:51:03,660
Um, we just have to raise it.

1144
00:51:03,720 --> 00:51:06,390
I mean, we're not getting the,
you know, the thousands of dollars

1145
00:51:06,390 --> 00:51:09,270
from, from the school that some
people are, but that's okay.

1146
00:51:09,629 --> 00:51:12,720
Um, we're, we're able to,
and, and we're allowed to.

1147
00:51:12,720 --> 00:51:13,740
And so we're gonna do it.

1148
00:51:14,100 --> 00:51:16,680
We're not gonna sit there and complain
about, they're not giving it to us.

1149
00:51:16,680 --> 00:51:17,609
We're gonna go out and get it.

1150
00:51:18,000 --> 00:51:22,770
And so most of the things that we're doing
now are gonna be geared towards that.

1151
00:51:22,770 --> 00:51:26,339
You know, the golf tournament, money's
gonna go to that, uh, the first pitch.

1152
00:51:26,339 --> 00:51:27,779
Dinner money's gonna go to that.

1153
00:51:27,779 --> 00:51:31,140
We're gonna try to have another
event, maybe a fish fry next

1154
00:51:31,140 --> 00:51:32,790
summer in the new stadium.

1155
00:51:33,180 --> 00:51:34,950
Uh, that'll be geared towards that.

1156
00:51:34,950 --> 00:51:39,419
And so, um, if you guys want to help
us out with getting that word out as

1157
00:51:39,419 --> 00:51:42,120
we get a little more organized with
this, I know we've got the dollar

1158
00:51:42,330 --> 00:51:44,040
dollars for dingers that are going into.

1159
00:51:44,535 --> 00:51:45,825
Into the pot right there.

1160
00:51:45,830 --> 00:51:45,839
Mm-hmm.

1161
00:51:45,920 --> 00:51:47,504
And that, that's going awesome, man.

1162
00:51:47,504 --> 00:51:52,275
Thank you guys again for, for doing
that because those are the same

1163
00:51:52,275 --> 00:51:55,605
people that may be wanting to, you
know, help us out with, with this.

1164
00:51:55,605 --> 00:51:59,895
And I think all of it is super
important for our program's future.

1165
00:52:00,404 --> 00:52:00,705
Yeah.

1166
00:52:00,705 --> 00:52:06,045
E everything that really our group
morphed into from like a DM text

1167
00:52:06,045 --> 00:52:10,275
chain tailgating group to being more
of this fundraising arm being more

1168
00:52:10,275 --> 00:52:12,585
involved is because of ODU baseball.

1169
00:52:12,795 --> 00:52:17,475
It's because of that run in 21 that we
just somehow started dollars for dingers.

1170
00:52:17,475 --> 00:52:20,984
I think Aaron Zelensky came up with it
and now it's become an every year thing.

1171
00:52:21,315 --> 00:52:23,325
Uh, our last update was three days ago.

1172
00:52:23,325 --> 00:52:24,855
We were over 2,500.

1173
00:52:24,855 --> 00:52:26,115
We got a goal of 5,000.

1174
00:52:26,115 --> 00:52:30,585
So if you're, if you needed a reminder
to go dollars for dingers, go for it.

1175
00:52:30,585 --> 00:52:31,875
It's on all of our social channels.

1176
00:52:31,904 --> 00:52:31,995
Mm-hmm.

1177
00:52:32,234 --> 00:52:33,765
It's on the O DAF website.

1178
00:52:34,125 --> 00:52:35,115
Uh, plenty of options.

1179
00:52:35,115 --> 00:52:37,185
Pick the stat that that meets your budget.

1180
00:52:37,185 --> 00:52:41,174
I think, uh, CBU and I did
140 for 140 extra base hits.

1181
00:52:41,504 --> 00:52:43,245
Uh, there's all kinds
of things in there, but.

1182
00:52:43,935 --> 00:52:46,995
Things like that are things that
can now go towards rev share.

1183
00:52:47,115 --> 00:52:51,075
So that's a way where you can get
your tax receipt, you can donate

1184
00:52:51,075 --> 00:52:54,765
that way, and it can go and it can
really help, like even that 2,500 to

1185
00:52:54,765 --> 00:52:58,575
5,000, that can go a long way with,
with how things are, are set up now.

1186
00:52:58,575 --> 00:53:00,585
So you haven't done dollars for dingers.

1187
00:53:00,615 --> 00:53:01,484
Here's your reminder.

1188
00:53:01,904 --> 00:53:02,774
We'll get plenty more.

1189
00:53:02,774 --> 00:53:04,725
Don't worry, we're not gonna
lay off this in some time.

1190
00:53:05,774 --> 00:53:06,615
Yeah, please

1191
00:53:06,615 --> 00:53:07,004
do it.

1192
00:53:07,305 --> 00:53:09,884
And you're right, it goes,
it goes to the school now.

1193
00:53:09,884 --> 00:53:12,674
And so it's not like the NIL money.

1194
00:53:12,674 --> 00:53:14,085
You don't have to battle yourself.

1195
00:53:14,085 --> 00:53:17,565
You, you can't get your, your
tax, you know, credits for that.

1196
00:53:17,565 --> 00:53:21,674
And, and it's, it's money that's gonna
go directly to the, to the players.

1197
00:53:21,674 --> 00:53:23,595
It's not going to a third party.

1198
00:53:24,585 --> 00:53:27,495
Um, that's why they wanted to put
the schools more in control of it.

1199
00:53:28,830 --> 00:53:32,130
Yeah, I think that's, we'll, we
will, uh, cut down on some of the

1200
00:53:32,130 --> 00:53:34,200
tampering that we know is occurring.

1201
00:53:34,200 --> 00:53:37,440
I don't know if you paid attention
to Texas Tech softball, but they're

1202
00:53:37,440 --> 00:53:40,470
basically blatantly out saying, yeah,
we have people call kids that are still

1203
00:53:40,470 --> 00:53:43,650
on teams playing, offer 'em money,
and then they're signing, coming over.

1204
00:53:43,650 --> 00:53:46,770
So not even, not even
thinly veiled these days.

1205
00:53:46,770 --> 00:53:46,830
Yeah,

1206
00:53:48,025 --> 00:53:48,245
no.

1207
00:53:48,960 --> 00:53:49,680
Yeah, hopefully.

1208
00:53:49,830 --> 00:53:52,290
I mean, there's always gonna
be those, those guys that are

1209
00:53:52,290 --> 00:53:54,210
trying to skirt the system.

1210
00:53:54,210 --> 00:53:57,120
You know, every time you make
a rule, people get right to

1211
00:53:57,120 --> 00:53:58,710
work on finding ways around it.

1212
00:53:58,860 --> 00:53:59,100
So,

1213
00:53:59,340 --> 00:53:59,640
yeah.

1214
00:53:59,850 --> 00:54:03,300
Um, less rules are probably
better to be, to be honest.

1215
00:54:03,300 --> 00:54:07,830
And, um, you just gotta figure out a
way to, you know, I, we're, we're not

1216
00:54:07,830 --> 00:54:11,940
trying, I mean, we talk about it every
day and, and you know, I think that.

1217
00:54:13,154 --> 00:54:16,904
We've come a long way and learned
some good lessons and are doing

1218
00:54:16,904 --> 00:54:19,214
this in a much more productive way.

1219
00:54:19,665 --> 00:54:22,875
And, you know, I mean, these,
these guys do all the work.

1220
00:54:22,875 --> 00:54:24,990
I come in and ask who
they got and they show me.

1221
00:54:25,689 --> 00:54:29,145
Uh, I mean, but they, they're,
they've, they've figured out how

1222
00:54:29,145 --> 00:54:30,944
to really do a good job with this.

1223
00:54:30,944 --> 00:54:36,915
I mean, I, I think we're on much better
players, um, that fit our need and can

1224
00:54:36,915 --> 00:54:42,075
help us win in the Sunbelt conference
and also the right kind of kids.

1225
00:54:42,375 --> 00:54:44,535
Um, and it doesn't matter
where they're from.

1226
00:54:44,595 --> 00:54:47,835
Like we don't, we don't care about
the sweatshirt or the hat game.

1227
00:54:47,835 --> 00:54:47,895
Yeah.

1228
00:54:47,895 --> 00:54:51,734
You don't need to be from, you know,
X School for us to think you're good.

1229
00:54:52,064 --> 00:54:56,444
Um, there's a lot of good players that
are playing, uh, at division two schools.

1230
00:54:56,504 --> 00:55:00,285
Um, and you know, they're
certainly good enough.

1231
00:55:00,285 --> 00:55:02,444
They just ended up there
for whatever reason.

1232
00:55:02,865 --> 00:55:05,895
And kids go places they
play, they get better.

1233
00:55:06,285 --> 00:55:07,935
And that happens all the time.

1234
00:55:08,265 --> 00:55:09,404
You know, you see that.

1235
00:55:09,404 --> 00:55:11,535
And so it's just one of those things.

1236
00:55:11,535 --> 00:55:16,185
I mean, I think Miami starting shortstop
was at, you know, UNC Greensboro

1237
00:55:16,185 --> 00:55:17,565
or something a year ago or so.

1238
00:55:17,565 --> 00:55:20,355
You know, it is like you
see it all over the place.

1239
00:55:21,195 --> 00:55:25,125
So, um, we're, we're working on that
and hopefully in the next couple

1240
00:55:25,125 --> 00:55:29,295
weeks we'll have some, have some yeses
and, and have some clarity a little

1241
00:55:29,295 --> 00:55:31,455
bit more and keep moving forward.

1242
00:55:31,455 --> 00:55:32,865
So we're happy about that.

1243
00:55:33,495 --> 00:55:35,924
Yeah, I think we're planning on
doing the next podcast about the

1244
00:55:35,924 --> 00:55:38,775
third, uh, Monday of next, uh, July.

1245
00:55:38,775 --> 00:55:41,654
And think we're gonna have Marin
on and we'll, 'cause we, we figured

1246
00:55:41,654 --> 00:55:44,115
by then we probably have a few more
answers, uh, particularly on the

1247
00:55:44,115 --> 00:55:46,515
pitching side where they seem to
be a lot more questions right now.

1248
00:55:46,515 --> 00:55:48,105
But, so yeah, we're, we're excited.

1249
00:55:48,105 --> 00:55:50,355
So that'll be a, that'll be a two hour

1250
00:55:50,415 --> 00:55:51,585
version of the podcast.

1251
00:55:53,835 --> 00:55:54,884
Maybe there are no

1252
00:55:54,884 --> 00:55:59,865
short, there are no short, uh,
conversations with Michael Marin,

1253
00:55:59,865 --> 00:56:01,185
just so you guys know that.

1254
00:56:01,185 --> 00:56:01,515
Right.

1255
00:56:01,904 --> 00:56:02,055
I

1256
00:56:02,055 --> 00:56:04,845
feel like that's a way to get
two episodes in one session.

1257
00:56:04,845 --> 00:56:05,205
So, hey.

1258
00:56:08,400 --> 00:56:11,100
Bonus episode, extended play version.

1259
00:56:11,565 --> 00:56:12,185
That's right.

1260
00:56:12,525 --> 00:56:12,745
Yes.

1261
00:56:12,795 --> 00:56:14,465
It'll be the EP version right there.

1262
00:56:14,910 --> 00:56:15,450
There we go.

1263
00:56:16,380 --> 00:56:16,740
Yeah.

1264
00:56:17,310 --> 00:56:21,330
Alright, well, uh, hey, h Finney, we, we
thoroughly appreciate you guys joining us.

1265
00:56:21,330 --> 00:56:22,590
I know, I know.

1266
00:56:22,590 --> 00:56:23,640
I enjoy Gary Joy.

1267
00:56:23,640 --> 00:56:27,120
I know the fans enjoy getting to hear the,
the, the, the perspective that you guys

1268
00:56:27,120 --> 00:56:28,950
have that you can't get anywhere else.

1269
00:56:29,010 --> 00:56:31,110
Uh, the, the look inside
the ba, ODU baseball.

1270
00:56:31,110 --> 00:56:32,340
So we, we appreciate you guys.

1271
00:56:33,060 --> 00:56:33,930
Well, thank you guys.

1272
00:56:33,935 --> 00:56:34,830
Guys, thank you.

1273
00:56:34,950 --> 00:56:35,940
Y'all the best man.

1274
00:56:35,940 --> 00:56:39,360
You guys have made this so much fun,
as I say every week, and thanks man.

1275
00:56:40,980 --> 00:56:41,310
All right.

1276
00:56:41,310 --> 00:56:41,730
We love it.

1277
00:56:41,790 --> 00:56:42,060
All right.

1278
00:56:42,060 --> 00:56:42,780
Appreciate you guys.

1279
00:56:42,780 --> 00:56:43,320
Y'all be safe.

1280
00:56:43,320 --> 00:56:44,640
Fell soon.

1281
00:56:44,760 --> 00:56:45,120
Thank you.

1282
00:56:45,125 --> 00:56:45,335
Happy.

1283
00:56:52,410 --> 00:56:54,060
All right, so we take
a, take a quick break,

1284
00:56:54,060 --> 00:56:55,200
do a little commercial break,

1285
00:56:55,320 --> 00:56:55,950
a little one of those.

1286
00:56:55,950 --> 00:56:56,700
What do think

1287
00:56:56,850 --> 00:56:57,810
Hit a little commercial break.

1288
00:56:57,810 --> 00:57:00,240
We got a couple of things to
talk about, including, yeah.

1289
00:57:00,240 --> 00:57:02,100
The Monarch being part of a no-no.

1290
00:57:02,100 --> 00:57:03,150
How's that for a tease?

1291
00:57:03,150 --> 00:57:03,270
Oh, yeah.

1292
00:57:03,930 --> 00:57:07,260
This episode of the Monarchist
podcast is brought to you by

1293
00:57:07,260 --> 00:57:08,670
the pride of ODU Collective.

1294
00:57:09,360 --> 00:57:12,570
Their mission is to elevate the
experience of student athletes through

1295
00:57:12,570 --> 00:57:16,410
name, image, and likeness, while
also elevating the fan experience.

1296
00:57:16,710 --> 00:57:19,140
If you or your business are
interested in getting involved,

1297
00:57:19,620 --> 00:57:24,690
you can reach out to us directly
or go over to the pride of odu.com.

1298
00:57:24,960 --> 00:57:28,560
That is the pride of odu.com.

1299
00:57:28,860 --> 00:57:29,760
Thank you for listening.

1300
00:57:29,820 --> 00:57:30,720
And go Monarchs.

1301
00:57:34,080 --> 00:57:34,500
Alright.

1302
00:57:34,500 --> 00:57:34,800
Yeah.

1303
00:57:35,100 --> 00:57:36,330
Well, awesome having you.

1304
00:57:36,330 --> 00:57:37,020
I, I really like

1305
00:57:37,020 --> 00:57:37,500
that.

1306
00:57:37,770 --> 00:57:38,190
Yeah.

1307
00:57:38,190 --> 00:57:43,590
I love it because we, you get such a,
it's a reality check, but it's also

1308
00:57:44,040 --> 00:57:48,090
so positive because it's that reality
like Yeah, we're, it's the thing that

1309
00:57:48,090 --> 00:57:51,300
anyone who's has half a brand looks at
and says, look, we're not going out.

1310
00:57:51,735 --> 00:57:54,495
And getting, you know, this, this
guy or that guy or whatever guy,

1311
00:57:54,915 --> 00:57:58,335
we're gonna go out and get dudes who
wanna play for us that have talent.

1312
00:57:59,115 --> 00:58:02,535
And like I said, maybe they played at
a D two or D three, maybe been at a

1313
00:58:02,535 --> 00:58:05,865
juco that maybe if they've got stats
or maybe they've been somewhere and

1314
00:58:05,865 --> 00:58:07,365
they haven't got a chance to play.

1315
00:58:07,575 --> 00:58:09,585
But the reality is, they, they're,
we're gonna get talented guys.

1316
00:58:09,585 --> 00:58:10,245
We're gonna get good guys.

1317
00:58:10,245 --> 00:58:11,595
We're gonna guys who want to be here.

1318
00:58:11,595 --> 00:58:12,555
And I, that's what I want.

1319
00:58:12,555 --> 00:58:12,975
I love it.

1320
00:58:12,975 --> 00:58:16,095
I, I mean, yeah, if you could
sign a hundred mercenaries and

1321
00:58:16,095 --> 00:58:17,685
have 'em all be great and awesome.

1322
00:58:17,715 --> 00:58:17,985
Okay.

1323
00:58:17,985 --> 00:58:19,875
You probably not have a very
good team chemistry, but you

1324
00:58:19,875 --> 00:58:21,075
might be fun baseball to watch.

1325
00:58:21,075 --> 00:58:25,245
But I think in the long run for who we
are and where we're at, you know, the

1326
00:58:25,245 --> 00:58:27,975
reality of what we are, this is better.

1327
00:58:28,215 --> 00:58:28,845
And I like it.

1328
00:58:29,925 --> 00:58:30,525
I do too.

1329
00:58:30,615 --> 00:58:34,125
And I think if you even went out and
got, say, five mercenaries, right?

1330
00:58:34,125 --> 00:58:34,575
We

1331
00:58:34,935 --> 00:58:35,055
mm-hmm.

1332
00:58:35,655 --> 00:58:38,775
Justin Verlander comes running in
out of nowhere with a million bucks

1333
00:58:38,775 --> 00:58:40,095
and says, have fun in the portal.

1334
00:58:40,155 --> 00:58:40,755
Like again, sure.

1335
00:58:41,895 --> 00:58:42,915
Wildest dreams.

1336
00:58:43,365 --> 00:58:47,115
Of those five you bring in, two of them
are gonna be shitheads, guaranteed.

1337
00:58:47,265 --> 00:58:49,277
The two of those five are
gonna be shithead, they're

1338
00:58:49,277 --> 00:58:50,055
gonna be a culture problem.

1339
00:58:50,055 --> 00:58:50,595
'cause you can't give

1340
00:58:51,015 --> 00:58:53,925
a 20-year-old a ton of money
without them being a, a turd.

1341
00:58:54,105 --> 00:58:55,275
Like that's just the reality.

1342
00:58:55,545 --> 00:58:58,995
Not in a baseball, environ football,
all right, you got 12 games, like

1343
00:58:59,055 --> 00:59:01,995
you can almost hide it a little
bit more because of the numbers.

1344
00:59:02,025 --> 00:59:08,085
But in baseball, like if you are not all
in on the team, you're gonna be found out

1345
00:59:08,220 --> 00:59:11,775
very, very, they spend
so much time together.

1346
00:59:12,015 --> 00:59:16,035
Even just like at the field, the guys
show up like hours before and just

1347
00:59:16,035 --> 00:59:19,245
do, you'd p like I always think it's
so funny, like my mom used to, we'd

1348
00:59:19,245 --> 00:59:22,365
go to wrestling matches and the guys
would be working out, you know, warming

1349
00:59:22,365 --> 00:59:24,675
up before the match and she's like,
they're gonna tire themselves out.

1350
00:59:25,005 --> 00:59:26,475
I'm like, mom, they're working out.

1351
00:59:26,475 --> 00:59:29,055
They're barely working
out for like 10 minutes.

1352
00:59:29,055 --> 00:59:31,485
The match, absolute maximum
lasts seven minutes.

1353
00:59:31,485 --> 00:59:32,145
Like how are they gonna wear that?

1354
00:59:32,325 --> 00:59:34,185
But they're like, I'm like, you go
to baseball all the time, but they

1355
00:59:34,185 --> 00:59:37,245
do like an entire practice before
the game and then sit around in the

1356
00:59:37,245 --> 00:59:38,384
heat and then play another game.

1357
00:59:38,384 --> 00:59:39,975
You never once said they're
gonna wear themselves out.

1358
00:59:39,975 --> 00:59:41,085
She's like, don't really run.

1359
00:59:41,085 --> 00:59:42,345
I'm like, it's, but you know.

1360
00:59:42,345 --> 00:59:46,904
But yeah, I, you spend so much time
with each other, like playing ev, they

1361
00:59:46,904 --> 00:59:48,735
play 56 games no other sport plays.

1362
00:59:48,735 --> 00:59:50,654
56 games in college.

1363
00:59:50,654 --> 00:59:51,555
That's crazy.

1364
00:59:52,245 --> 00:59:53,745
No, and yeah, you're right.

1365
00:59:53,745 --> 00:59:54,345
It's.

1366
00:59:54,360 --> 00:59:58,650
Let's just say a game lasts three hours
and be on the conservative side of things.

1367
00:59:58,860 --> 01:00:01,020
There's at least another three
hours that you as a player are

1368
01:00:01,020 --> 01:00:02,340
gonna be at the ballpark minimum.

1369
01:00:02,730 --> 01:00:02,820
Yes.

1370
01:00:02,820 --> 01:00:06,690
So the three game weekend series, you're
gonna spend 18 hours with that person.

1371
01:00:06,900 --> 01:00:09,240
And oh, by the way, there's a good
chance you probably live with them.

1372
01:00:09,240 --> 01:00:11,310
You're gonna go have dinner with
them, you're gonna hang out with them,

1373
01:00:11,640 --> 01:00:13,290
you're around 'em more than you're not.

1374
01:00:13,620 --> 01:00:14,700
Where football, like Yeah.

1375
01:00:14,885 --> 01:00:15,105
And,

1376
01:00:15,105 --> 01:00:16,860
and that's a home series if you're Yeah.

1377
01:00:16,860 --> 01:00:17,460
That's a home series.

1378
01:00:19,500 --> 01:00:22,350
I mean, yeah, like I said, the, the,
I got the chance there to travel with

1379
01:00:22,350 --> 01:00:24,030
them on the way back to the airport.

1380
01:00:24,030 --> 01:00:26,520
I mean, it's just, we're sitting
there, we own the entire thing.

1381
01:00:26,520 --> 01:00:29,910
It's just, it's just 40 ODU u
baseball players sitting there, you

1382
01:00:29,910 --> 01:00:31,140
know, and, and the coaches and all.

1383
01:00:31,170 --> 01:00:33,480
It's like, yeah, if you've,
you got somebody who sucks,

1384
01:00:33,480 --> 01:00:34,830
man, it's, it's a bad time.

1385
01:00:35,580 --> 01:00:35,970
Yeah.

1386
01:00:36,060 --> 01:00:39,060
Then that, that's where the
culture outweighs the talent.

1387
01:00:39,060 --> 01:00:39,810
Sometimes.

1388
01:00:39,840 --> 01:00:40,890
You still need both.

1389
01:00:40,890 --> 01:00:45,615
I. But you aren't gonna sacrifice the
culture for a couple talent grabs,

1390
01:00:45,825 --> 01:00:48,045
especially with us because we're,
we're not gonna get someone that just

1391
01:00:48,045 --> 01:00:51,555
dumps a million bucks in to say, Hey,
go on spinning spree in the portal.

1392
01:00:51,555 --> 01:00:55,275
Like, we might be able to steal one,
maybe two of maybe those high end guys

1393
01:00:55,275 --> 01:00:57,195
that are fighting with the, for SEC play.

1394
01:00:57,195 --> 01:01:01,275
But, uh, excited for when we have
that update so we can talk about

1395
01:01:01,275 --> 01:01:03,855
more of the guys we know we're,
they're talking to quite a few.

1396
01:01:04,305 --> 01:01:08,085
Um, yeah, interesting how they
kinda, there's 5,000 in there.

1397
01:01:08,085 --> 01:01:10,845
They've got like a thousand or so
looking at and probably continuing to

1398
01:01:10,845 --> 01:01:12,645
look at 'em as they, they still roll in.

1399
01:01:12,645 --> 01:01:12,795
I

1400
01:01:12,795 --> 01:01:13,245
love that.

1401
01:01:13,370 --> 01:01:15,645
'cause I, I, I really like the way
they said it too, that, you know, just

1402
01:01:15,645 --> 01:01:19,725
pointing out that like, they narrow it
down because, and like as Spin pointed,

1403
01:01:19,725 --> 01:01:24,705
what a, what great experience for, uh, for
Ryan and, and, and Keane and, and Pond.

1404
01:01:24,705 --> 01:01:27,315
Like what a, what, I mean, they're
already awesome guys and I know

1405
01:01:27,315 --> 01:01:30,795
they all have a love for this and
they really wanna do it as a career.

1406
01:01:30,795 --> 01:01:35,085
And so getting that, that chance to
kind of be on the ground floor of what's

1407
01:01:35,085 --> 01:01:38,565
really gonna be the new way of doing
things, I, I think it's really neat.

1408
01:01:39,720 --> 01:01:39,899
Yeah.

1409
01:01:39,899 --> 01:01:42,930
Well, I want to talk a little bit about
some guys returning and some guys that

1410
01:01:42,930 --> 01:01:45,060
have already moved on to the pro level.

1411
01:01:45,089 --> 01:01:45,180
Mm-hmm.

1412
01:01:46,335 --> 01:01:49,365
You've, you've sent me a screenshot
I think, of every box score that

1413
01:01:49,365 --> 01:01:51,315
Bailey Matela has pitched so far this

1414
01:01:51,315 --> 01:01:51,615
summer.

1415
01:01:51,765 --> 01:01:52,214
Man.

1416
01:01:52,220 --> 01:01:54,390
He's, he's, he was only pitched
two, so it's not like, it's like

1417
01:01:54,615 --> 01:01:56,145
I'm throwing you 20 bucks, but Yes.

1418
01:01:56,145 --> 01:01:56,990
No, no, no, no.

1419
01:01:57,555 --> 01:02:02,024
Um, but he's, he's starting in
the summer league last outing.

1420
01:02:02,024 --> 01:02:03,345
He's playing for the, uh,

1421
01:02:03,435 --> 01:02:05,984
the wave of sport cross cutters
and the MLB draft league.

1422
01:02:06,009 --> 01:02:06,230
Yes.

1423
01:02:06,315 --> 01:02:09,674
So people know, which again,
it's MLB Draft League, so it

1424
01:02:09,674 --> 01:02:10,694
sounds like it's so impressive.

1425
01:02:10,694 --> 01:02:13,455
It's, I don't think that that
league is particularly any better

1426
01:02:13,455 --> 01:02:15,345
than any other summer league,
but it's, it's a good league.

1427
01:02:15,345 --> 01:02:15,915
It's a solid league.

1428
01:02:15,915 --> 01:02:18,345
It's got MLB backing, so
they've, they've got a lot of

1429
01:02:18,345 --> 01:02:19,605
good stats and tracking stuff.

1430
01:02:19,634 --> 01:02:19,815
Okay.

1431
01:02:19,815 --> 01:02:20,774
Sorry, Gary just wanted to,

1432
01:02:21,165 --> 01:02:24,734
it's kind of, um, it, it kind
of replaced a lot of the sh

1433
01:02:24,794 --> 01:02:27,075
the, the short league teams?

1434
01:02:27,075 --> 01:02:27,944
Yeah, the short season teams.

1435
01:02:27,950 --> 01:02:28,069
Yeah.

1436
01:02:28,069 --> 01:02:28,575
The cross cutters

1437
01:02:28,575 --> 01:02:31,754
were a, they were a, I think a Pirates
Minor League team for a long time.

1438
01:02:32,115 --> 01:02:35,535
Um, and that they were one of the ones
that got cut in the, the 2020, um,

1439
01:02:35,565 --> 01:02:36,884
when they got rid of all the teams.

1440
01:02:37,395 --> 01:02:38,565
Uh, so they, yeah,

1441
01:02:38,625 --> 01:02:39,375
yeah, yeah.

1442
01:02:39,435 --> 01:02:39,825
But yeah.

1443
01:02:40,004 --> 01:02:42,404
Uh, his second outing
here, five innings pitched.

1444
01:02:42,945 --> 01:02:46,065
One run, four hits, one
walk, six strikeouts.

1445
01:02:46,065 --> 01:02:50,265
He has now has a 2.7 ERA and
two starts over the summer.

1446
01:02:50,265 --> 01:02:50,325
Yeah.

1447
01:02:50,445 --> 01:02:51,225
As a starter.

1448
01:02:51,285 --> 01:02:51,525
Yeah.

1449
01:02:51,945 --> 01:02:52,485
Starter.

1450
01:02:52,695 --> 01:02:57,465
10, 10 innings, 13 strikeouts, only
two walks, which I, I, I didn't double

1451
01:02:57,465 --> 01:03:00,165
check this, but I'm pretty sure Bailey
had, if not as many, he might have had

1452
01:03:00,165 --> 01:03:01,725
more walks than strikeouts this year.

1453
01:03:02,205 --> 01:03:03,675
Um, so he's already pitched on me.

1454
01:03:03,675 --> 01:03:06,765
It, it, it, the kind of thing we're like,
man, should Bailey have been starting

1455
01:03:06,765 --> 01:03:08,595
all year is I don't, I don't, yeah.

1456
01:03:08,595 --> 01:03:10,635
We, and we didn't really get a chance
to ask some of those questions.

1457
01:03:10,635 --> 01:03:13,155
We, we, you know, again, we're gonna
talk to Mar next, next month, so

1458
01:03:13,155 --> 01:03:15,675
We'll, we'll ask some stuff about,
you know, I mean, Bailey might mess

1459
01:03:15,675 --> 01:03:16,905
around himself drafted, to be honest.

1460
01:03:16,905 --> 01:03:18,765
Might out a four guys
losing four pitchers.

1461
01:03:18,765 --> 01:03:19,125
That would be,

1462
01:03:20,805 --> 01:03:21,135
yeah.

1463
01:03:21,195 --> 01:03:22,155
Would be tough for us.

1464
01:03:22,155 --> 01:03:25,245
We'd be happy for him, but I
think we'd be missing his arm.

1465
01:03:25,251 --> 01:03:26,010
Certainly happy for

1466
01:03:26,010 --> 01:03:26,410
him, but,

1467
01:03:26,505 --> 01:03:26,985
yeah.

1468
01:03:27,345 --> 01:03:29,985
Um, but yeah, I mean, he is,
he is doing exceptionally well.

1469
01:03:29,985 --> 01:03:33,645
And, and maybe he becomes one of the
guys that replaces one of these three

1470
01:03:33,645 --> 01:03:35,865
starters that are, that's going, um.

1471
01:03:36,375 --> 01:03:39,885
'cause man, I, I'm starting to wonder
now if Ben and Bailey flip flopped

1472
01:03:39,885 --> 01:03:41,115
like you were alluding to there.

1473
01:03:41,145 --> 01:03:41,265
Mm-hmm.

1474
01:03:41,505 --> 01:03:43,695
Because Ben has been, you
said so good in relief.

1475
01:03:43,785 --> 01:03:47,265
Um, and, and he's, he is gonna
do some special things, I think

1476
01:03:47,265 --> 01:03:49,215
down in the combine with the
way he throws the baseball.

1477
01:03:49,215 --> 01:03:50,925
So, uh, pump for Bailey.

1478
01:03:50,925 --> 01:03:53,325
Bailey, if you sent out here this
man, we're, we're pumped for you.

1479
01:03:53,325 --> 01:03:54,555
We are cutting tabs on you

1480
01:03:54,705 --> 01:03:55,305
throughout the summer.

1481
01:03:55,305 --> 01:03:55,365
The

1482
01:03:55,365 --> 01:03:55,695
kid.

1483
01:03:55,700 --> 01:03:55,930
Yeah.

1484
01:03:56,145 --> 01:03:57,135
We're root for all the guys.

1485
01:03:57,135 --> 01:03:57,795
Like I Oh yeah.

1486
01:03:57,825 --> 01:04:00,285
Ideally I'd love it if every
single guy who was a junior

1487
01:04:00,285 --> 01:04:01,545
got drafted every single year.

1488
01:04:01,545 --> 01:04:04,105
I mean, yeah, it would make it hard to
keep going, but I mean, at the end of the

1489
01:04:04,105 --> 01:04:06,825
day, if that happened, you'd be getting
good guys coming into you all the time.

1490
01:04:06,855 --> 01:04:08,925
Uh, but yeah, so I'm,
I'm all for the guys.

1491
01:04:08,925 --> 01:04:11,325
And then, yeah, we talked about Kyle
and Scotty are playing for the pilots,

1492
01:04:11,325 --> 01:04:13,215
both, they're both playing pretty well.

1493
01:04:13,215 --> 01:04:15,015
They won their first, I think eight games.

1494
01:04:15,375 --> 01:04:18,134
Um, the leadoff hitter of this kid,
I, Carlos Pena, I forget what school

1495
01:04:18,134 --> 01:04:20,325
he is from a smaller school, but
he already has like eight homers.

1496
01:04:20,330 --> 01:04:22,785
They, they have a few guys that
are really good ball players.

1497
01:04:23,025 --> 01:04:23,174
Sure.

1498
01:04:23,265 --> 01:04:25,875
Um, Tanner Schadel has been
playing with the Tom Socks.

1499
01:04:25,875 --> 01:04:26,865
He's been pitting pretty well.

1500
01:04:26,865 --> 01:04:28,515
I think he's, I think he
dropped off a little bit.

1501
01:04:28,515 --> 01:04:30,194
He's down to two 50, but he's
already got as many hits as

1502
01:04:30,194 --> 01:04:31,815
he had the whole year at ODU.

1503
01:04:32,205 --> 01:04:34,245
Um, 'cause again, just sometimes
he's getting to play a little bit

1504
01:04:34,245 --> 01:04:35,895
more, relax a little bit more.

1505
01:04:36,254 --> 01:04:36,660
Um, he's young.

1506
01:04:38,055 --> 01:04:38,176
He's young.

1507
01:04:38,176 --> 01:04:38,176
Yeah.

1508
01:04:38,180 --> 01:04:38,805
He, uh, Tanner.

1509
01:04:38,805 --> 01:04:40,484
I've been watching Tanner since
he was a freshman in high school.

1510
01:04:40,484 --> 01:04:42,315
I, I'm, I know Tanner can play ball.

1511
01:04:42,315 --> 01:04:45,045
I'm, I'm excited for, to see what
he can do the next few years at ODU.

1512
01:04:45,495 --> 01:04:46,815
Um, so yeah, they've been playing.

1513
01:04:46,815 --> 01:04:49,515
And then you, you mentioned
it, um, Sam Armstrong.

1514
01:04:50,205 --> 01:04:51,255
He was all the way in aa.

1515
01:04:51,255 --> 01:04:52,905
It's only been a couple
years since he was with ODU.

1516
01:04:52,905 --> 01:04:53,985
He's already in aa.

1517
01:04:54,315 --> 01:04:56,325
Um, he is mostly been started, this
is his first relief appearance.

1518
01:04:56,325 --> 01:05:00,015
I don't know why they had him relief,
but he came in and threw one inning.

1519
01:05:00,075 --> 01:05:02,775
Um, was it last night, night
before, whenever It was in

1520
01:05:02,775 --> 01:05:04,005
the, to, it was last night.

1521
01:05:04,035 --> 01:05:04,305
Okay.

1522
01:05:04,575 --> 01:05:06,225
Which is now like two
nights ago when the Yeah.

1523
01:05:07,245 --> 01:05:08,295
Time doesn't matter.

1524
01:05:08,895 --> 01:05:10,185
It was on Sunday.

1525
01:05:10,275 --> 01:05:13,755
Uh, the 15th he came in, he threw
the seventh inning, uh, to finish

1526
01:05:13,755 --> 01:05:15,555
off a, a no hitter, a seventh inning.

1527
01:05:15,555 --> 01:05:16,305
It was a double hitter.

1528
01:05:16,695 --> 01:05:18,255
Um, so, so that's pretty awesome.

1529
01:05:18,255 --> 01:05:20,895
I mean, it's any, anytime you come in
and, uh, finish off a no hitter, I think

1530
01:05:20,895 --> 01:05:22,365
he walked a guy and he struck out a guy.

1531
01:05:22,845 --> 01:05:25,395
Um, and then yeah, you
mentioned Jacob's doing well.

1532
01:05:25,395 --> 01:05:27,675
Uh, hunter Gregory Guy moved up to aaa.

1533
01:05:27,675 --> 01:05:30,075
So he is with the Buffalo
Bisons, the, the Blue Jays aaa.

1534
01:05:30,075 --> 01:05:32,955
I saw his, I dunno if he's pitched game,
but his first appearance had you strike

1535
01:05:32,955 --> 01:05:34,395
outs and a scoreless hit the sinning.

1536
01:05:34,755 --> 01:05:37,250
Um, so he's, I mean, you're a call away
from the show and he's been killing.

1537
01:05:37,250 --> 01:05:37,490
Mm-hmm.

1538
01:05:37,570 --> 01:05:38,625
He's been shoving all year.

1539
01:05:39,075 --> 01:05:43,395
Um, Joe Moore, Ryan's dad, he made a
great point because the other day I, I,

1540
01:05:43,395 --> 01:05:44,416
I had a tweet where I said, you know.

1541
01:05:45,735 --> 01:05:48,645
I always, when I, I see these guys
who are local guys that end up in the

1542
01:05:48,645 --> 01:05:51,255
portal, um, you know, there's a part
of me, it's like I want them to come

1543
01:05:51,255 --> 01:05:53,925
Play-Doh to u um, you know, it's,
again, it's just, it's really just, hey.

1544
01:05:53,925 --> 01:05:54,975
It's like, hey, come home.

1545
01:05:55,365 --> 01:05:57,195
You know, play in, play
in front of your family.

1546
01:05:57,195 --> 01:06:00,075
We got a great stadium and, and I
made sure I, I put the caveat on

1547
01:06:00,075 --> 01:06:02,535
there, it's like, look, I don't
know what the school really needs.

1548
01:06:02,535 --> 01:06:03,735
I don't know what the play really needs.

1549
01:06:03,735 --> 01:06:04,605
I dunno if they all fits at all.

1550
01:06:04,605 --> 01:06:05,355
It's just how I feel.

1551
01:06:05,355 --> 01:06:06,255
I wanted to see it happen.

1552
01:06:06,645 --> 01:06:09,165
Um, and Joe Moore, he,
he, he quotes me of that.

1553
01:06:09,165 --> 01:06:10,095
He made a great point.

1554
01:06:10,365 --> 01:06:13,725
He was like, he, he listed off all
the guys that we've had playing pro

1555
01:06:13,725 --> 01:06:14,955
ball as pitchers the last few years.

1556
01:06:15,045 --> 01:06:16,965
It was like, like I, I just, we
just listened a bunch of 'em.

1557
01:06:16,965 --> 01:06:17,115
Right?

1558
01:06:17,115 --> 01:06:17,505
What, what?

1559
01:06:17,535 --> 01:06:23,265
Uh, hunter and Sam Armstrong and,
um, Jake Gomez, Trent Buchanan, John

1560
01:06:23,265 --> 01:06:26,895
Holobetz, Noah Dean, uh, Aaron Holiday.

1561
01:06:27,615 --> 01:06:32,505
I'm, I'm forgetting somebody,
uh, Johnny Wilson playing pro.

1562
01:06:32,775 --> 01:06:36,555
Um, there, there's a, a ton of guys
and that's just in the last like five

1563
01:06:36,555 --> 01:06:38,475
years and Yeah, it, it really is.

1564
01:06:38,610 --> 01:06:42,315
And, and as, as they, the guys pointed
out, which I really didn't take a, a lot

1565
01:06:42,315 --> 01:06:46,485
to think about, most of them were guys
we, they recruited outta high school and,

1566
01:06:46,545 --> 01:06:47,985
and help develop throughout their career.

1567
01:06:47,985 --> 01:06:52,755
I mean, it's, I I feel like sometimes
we wanna 'em malign and, and, and

1568
01:06:52,755 --> 01:06:57,075
say pitching is the problem at ODU
U And I think some years it's fair,

1569
01:06:57,075 --> 01:07:00,705
but the reality is it might be more
the depth of pitching that maybe

1570
01:07:00,705 --> 01:07:03,735
the, the middle to the back end of
things aren't quite as talented.

1571
01:07:03,735 --> 01:07:05,955
But the top tier, I mean,
just look at this year, right?

1572
01:07:05,955 --> 01:07:09,795
We, we got Dylan Brown and
Ben Moore and Blake Morgan.

1573
01:07:09,975 --> 01:07:13,365
Your three rotation guys were phenomenal
and they're all probably getting drafted.

1574
01:07:13,890 --> 01:07:16,710
Uh, and that'll add to this
giant list we have, and that's,

1575
01:07:16,860 --> 01:07:18,540
again, just the last five years.

1576
01:07:18,870 --> 01:07:21,750
Um, so Marin is, I, I'm excited.

1577
01:07:21,750 --> 01:07:22,740
We're gonna talk to him next month.

1578
01:07:22,740 --> 01:07:23,460
We're gonna bring him on.

1579
01:07:23,880 --> 01:07:25,320
Um, he's awesome.

1580
01:07:25,590 --> 01:07:27,450
Uh, he does a great job with guys.

1581
01:07:27,480 --> 01:07:30,810
He, he's such a good motivator and so
I think it's one of those that, you

1582
01:07:30,810 --> 01:07:33,960
know, some people, again, people just
talk and say, so there's always somebody

1583
01:07:33,960 --> 01:07:37,110
who has negative opinions, but, uh,
they've done some pretty great stuff.

1584
01:07:37,110 --> 01:07:37,470
I mean, it's hard.

1585
01:07:37,470 --> 01:07:41,340
I would love to find somebody else
who's a mid-major who can stack up

1586
01:07:41,460 --> 01:07:43,140
that pile of pictures like we have.

1587
01:07:44,055 --> 01:07:45,075
There aren't many.

1588
01:07:45,075 --> 01:07:47,505
And if they are, they might
be like a Coastal Carolina

1589
01:07:47,505 --> 01:07:48,525
or somebody, but even Right.

1590
01:07:48,525 --> 01:07:51,165
They don't have that,
that many in the pros.

1591
01:07:51,525 --> 01:07:55,485
And it may have been Premarin, I
don't exactly know the timeline, it

1592
01:07:55,485 --> 01:07:59,325
was closed, but let's not forget that
we can now count Jared Young as in

1593
01:07:59,325 --> 01:08:01,695
Monarch, who has thrown in the majors.

1594
01:08:02,300 --> 01:08:04,185
He, he was here with Marin osi, so yeah.

1595
01:08:04,185 --> 01:08:04,695
So there he goes.

1596
01:08:04,695 --> 01:08:06,855
So there's another, yeah,
JY got, what did he throw?

1597
01:08:06,855 --> 01:08:07,905
One third of inning.

1598
01:08:07,935 --> 01:08:09,825
Uh, got a perfect era,
RA in the big leagues.

1599
01:08:09,975 --> 01:08:10,335
Yep.

1600
01:08:10,335 --> 01:08:13,065
Gave up a hit and a, and a, a walk.

1601
01:08:13,065 --> 01:08:16,575
But he did get the final out of the
game, which is more I can say for, uh,

1602
01:08:16,575 --> 01:08:20,265
Ryan Stannick, who was in before and
who gave up three runs on two hits and

1603
01:08:20,565 --> 01:08:25,694
just melted down as the Mets lost, or
nine to nothing to the raise, which

1604
01:08:25,694 --> 01:08:26,685
the Mets have been good this year.

1605
01:08:27,045 --> 01:08:28,215
Uh, but yeah, so yeah, I don't hate

1606
01:08:28,215 --> 01:08:29,145
to see the Mets lose.

1607
01:08:29,145 --> 01:08:29,895
I like to see the Mets lose.

1608
01:08:29,895 --> 01:08:31,335
I like to see JY play really well.

1609
01:08:31,844 --> 01:08:34,245
And if the Mets can also
lose, that works out for me.

1610
01:08:34,634 --> 01:08:34,875
Yeah.

1611
01:08:34,875 --> 01:08:35,834
Instead a brave fan.

1612
01:08:36,495 --> 01:08:36,734
Yeah.

1613
01:08:36,794 --> 01:08:37,245
Makes sense.

1614
01:08:37,455 --> 01:08:37,724
Yeah.

1615
01:08:37,814 --> 01:08:40,064
Y'all got, y'all got a hill
to climb right now, so.

1616
01:08:40,064 --> 01:08:40,125
Yeah,

1617
01:08:40,754 --> 01:08:41,444
yeah, yeah.

1618
01:08:41,714 --> 01:08:42,974
It's how, it's how it goes sometimes.

1619
01:08:42,974 --> 01:08:45,915
Sometimes you might need a, you, you
know, you might need some change and

1620
01:08:45,915 --> 01:08:46,875
some things, but that's all right.

1621
01:08:46,875 --> 01:08:47,924
It's how it goes.

1622
01:08:48,044 --> 01:08:50,264
We got our World Series, we're,
we know sometimes you have

1623
01:08:50,264 --> 01:08:51,615
to take the lumps afterwards.

1624
01:08:52,365 --> 01:08:52,634
Yeah.

1625
01:08:52,694 --> 01:08:54,915
You still hit a boatload
of talent on that team.

1626
01:08:54,915 --> 01:08:57,194
When it's healthy, you'll,
you're gonna be fine.

1627
01:08:57,285 --> 01:09:00,194
And let's not forget, like Jacob
Gomez and Trim Buchanan should be

1628
01:09:00,194 --> 01:09:02,594
in the starting rotation at some
point here in the next two years.

1629
01:09:02,834 --> 01:09:05,054
Tell you what Jacob might be
on the way sooner than later.

1630
01:09:05,625 --> 01:09:06,075
Yeah.

1631
01:09:06,075 --> 01:09:10,424
Um, so we did mention Odus had
eight guys go in the portal.

1632
01:09:10,964 --> 01:09:13,184
Um, so it's worth kind of just
mentioning them real quick,

1633
01:09:13,184 --> 01:09:14,984
which you can see this on the.

1634
01:09:15,314 --> 01:09:18,434
Um, uh, pride of ODU on
the, on the monarchist site.

1635
01:09:18,464 --> 01:09:22,245
There you can see the list that has
our kind of roster churn, which shows,

1636
01:09:22,245 --> 01:09:25,365
you know, some of the guys we know have
graduated don't have any eligibility.

1637
01:09:25,665 --> 01:09:27,915
Uh, we have the guys
who are in the portal.

1638
01:09:28,184 --> 01:09:31,064
Um, we have a list of the guys
that we know of that are coming

1639
01:09:31,064 --> 01:09:33,014
in, which I, again, obviously
finning wants to wait a little bit

1640
01:09:33,014 --> 01:09:34,724
and talk about 'em a little later.

1641
01:09:34,934 --> 01:09:38,234
Um, and then we, I think we have
a few guys, like we, we are pretty

1642
01:09:38,234 --> 01:09:40,514
positive that, that Dylan and Ben
are getting drafted, you know, so

1643
01:09:40,514 --> 01:09:41,835
we kind of mark that on there too.

1644
01:09:42,314 --> 01:09:46,335
Um, so most of the guys that
are leaving really didn't have

1645
01:09:46,335 --> 01:09:47,535
a ton of impact this year.

1646
01:09:47,894 --> 01:09:54,405
Um, you know, uh, like Alex Gomez and
Rocky Green and Julian Areola, uh, the

1647
01:09:54,405 --> 01:09:56,625
three of them did not get to play at all.

1648
01:09:56,865 --> 01:09:59,985
Um, Alex made a few trips and
was bullpen catchers sometimes.

1649
01:10:00,045 --> 01:10:05,445
Um, uh, Kyle Finn, I think pitched
one game, um, and did okay.

1650
01:10:05,445 --> 01:10:07,275
I think he had, he had two
innings, but nowhere and runs.

1651
01:10:07,275 --> 01:10:10,844
I think he gave up a few runs, but
he, and then, uh, Marco Lari, we know

1652
01:10:10,844 --> 01:10:12,255
he had, he had kind of a tough time.

1653
01:10:12,255 --> 01:10:14,174
He was, he's, you know, um.

1654
01:10:14,565 --> 01:10:15,434
Has a big arm.

1655
01:10:15,434 --> 01:10:17,805
It just, just had struggled
some to throw some strikes.

1656
01:10:17,865 --> 01:10:21,585
Uh, Ryan Thomas had some at bats early
the year, didn't have a ton late the year.

1657
01:10:21,585 --> 01:10:24,105
I think he, I think you pointed out he had
the very last at bat of the whole season.

1658
01:10:24,585 --> 01:10:28,065
Um, but he, so he didn't
do a ton, uh, necessarily.

1659
01:10:28,515 --> 01:10:32,144
Um, and then the only guy who, oh,
and then Luke Ridley, he also had

1660
01:10:32,144 --> 01:10:33,555
some appearances early in the year.

1661
01:10:33,585 --> 01:10:36,465
Um, he was coming off of injury as juco.

1662
01:10:36,465 --> 01:10:39,285
So I think, you know, again, and,
and, and I'm, I'm telling these

1663
01:10:39,285 --> 01:10:40,605
guys, these guys are awesome guys.

1664
01:10:40,605 --> 01:10:41,865
I, I'm, I'm a huge fan of all them.

1665
01:10:41,865 --> 01:10:44,115
I hope they all get to go somewhere
where they're gonna have yeah,

1666
01:10:44,325 --> 01:10:45,525
a spot and play really well.

1667
01:10:45,585 --> 01:10:49,575
Um, the only guy who really
probably made a, a solid impact

1668
01:10:49,575 --> 01:10:51,925
this year for ODU was Kainen Jorge

1669
01:10:51,945 --> 01:10:55,934
Um, Kainen is gonna, the portal, I
mean, we think we all know he was one

1670
01:10:55,934 --> 01:10:58,275
of our, one of our better players.

1671
01:10:58,365 --> 01:10:58,845
Um.

1672
01:10:59,220 --> 01:11:01,830
He had a, um, you know, he
had, he had a good year.

1673
01:11:01,830 --> 01:11:04,020
I don't, I should have put the
numbers in front of me, but I

1674
01:11:04,020 --> 01:11:08,010
think he had what, eight home runs
and had, uh, like 40 some rbis.

1675
01:11:08,010 --> 01:11:08,970
He struck out a lot.

1676
01:11:08,970 --> 01:11:11,040
He had way too many strikeouts, I
think anybody would tell you that.

1677
01:11:11,370 --> 01:11:13,710
Uh, but he played, played, once they
put him in center field, it really

1678
01:11:13,710 --> 01:11:15,090
cemented things in the outfield.

1679
01:11:15,090 --> 01:11:16,020
He played really well.

1680
01:11:16,290 --> 01:11:17,310
Uh, great family.

1681
01:11:17,340 --> 01:11:18,660
His dad's an awesome guy.

1682
01:11:18,720 --> 01:11:22,260
Uh, I'm, I was, I was actually talking to
his dad, uh, earlier this, this, this past

1683
01:11:22,260 --> 01:11:25,320
week and just tell him that, Hey, I'm, you
know, rooting for Kainen wherever he goes.

1684
01:11:25,710 --> 01:11:27,780
Um, you know, I hope it works out for him.

1685
01:11:27,840 --> 01:11:29,940
You know, I hope, I hope he's,
you know, I don't, I don't exactly

1686
01:11:29,940 --> 01:11:33,030
know why, and I didn't really wanna
get to and ask, ask the guys here.

1687
01:11:33,030 --> 01:11:34,890
But, you know, it's just one of
those things that he's in the portal.

1688
01:11:34,890 --> 01:11:39,270
And, and I think one thing I like that
I, I hope a lot of fans have taken

1689
01:11:39,270 --> 01:11:42,150
over, uh, with the portals at this
point is like, Hey, you know what?

1690
01:11:42,150 --> 01:11:43,050
Just wish the guys luck.

1691
01:11:43,230 --> 01:11:43,980
Just wish him luck.

1692
01:11:43,980 --> 01:11:44,610
You know, there's no point.

1693
01:11:45,000 --> 01:11:46,650
Like, Kainen's a great kid.

1694
01:11:46,710 --> 01:11:47,820
Family's a great family.

1695
01:11:48,150 --> 01:11:49,830
I want wherever he goes,
I hope he kills it.

1696
01:11:49,835 --> 01:11:51,240
I hope he, I hope he has an awesome time.

1697
01:11:51,300 --> 01:11:53,870
Like I, I have no reason to have
any problem with, with Kainen.

1698
01:11:54,630 --> 01:11:54,780
Yeah.

1699
01:11:54,780 --> 01:11:57,300
Getting, getting fired up and
mad at 'em is not going to

1700
01:11:57,300 --> 01:11:59,190
bring suddenly back to the team.

1701
01:11:59,639 --> 01:11:59,849
Yeah.

1702
01:11:59,910 --> 01:12:04,380
You know, we'll ask those questions and
see if it's something that needs to be

1703
01:12:04,380 --> 01:12:08,849
out there publicly, but there's a lot
of landmines to step on me and start

1704
01:12:08,849 --> 01:12:10,559
talking about why guys leave the team.

1705
01:12:10,559 --> 01:12:10,620
Yeah.

1706
01:12:10,950 --> 01:12:14,490
Because I, I will say it as
someone who's not plugged into the

1707
01:12:14,490 --> 01:12:17,849
program, like sometimes guys get
cut and that's just what it is.

1708
01:12:17,849 --> 01:12:18,450
It gets cut.

1709
01:12:18,480 --> 01:12:20,760
The only way to continue playing
is to go on the portal and

1710
01:12:20,760 --> 01:12:21,809
try and find somewhere else.

1711
01:12:22,139 --> 01:12:26,010
For some guys, maybe their scholarship
money is different, or maybe they have

1712
01:12:26,010 --> 01:12:28,950
not had scholarship money and they need
it and they're not going to get it.

1713
01:12:29,370 --> 01:12:31,620
Uh, it could be a
falling out with coaches.

1714
01:12:31,620 --> 01:12:33,840
It could be, there are a
number of different things.

1715
01:12:33,840 --> 01:12:34,620
I'm not gonna speculate.

1716
01:12:34,620 --> 01:12:36,720
I have no idea why, but you nailed it.

1717
01:12:36,720 --> 01:12:39,750
CB give them a, Hey, congrats.

1718
01:12:39,750 --> 01:12:41,010
Good luck moving forward.

1719
01:12:41,010 --> 01:12:45,360
Hopefully they look back at their time at
ODU fondly and we'll, we'll go from there.

1720
01:12:45,389 --> 01:12:47,220
Uh, it does leave us a
hole in center field.

1721
01:12:47,565 --> 01:12:50,955
Uh, TJ Aiken still very much on
the roster, has played center

1722
01:12:50,955 --> 01:12:52,725
field, another year of development.

1723
01:12:52,725 --> 01:12:55,905
That might be a perfect landing spot
for him to be at right there in center.

1724
01:12:55,905 --> 01:12:58,695
That's what he played most of the
time, I think, in high school.

1725
01:12:59,144 --> 01:13:01,725
Uh, and then of course there's, I,
I don't know, I haven't sorted the

1726
01:13:01,725 --> 01:13:04,875
thing by Center fielders, but I'm sure
there's probably several hundred center

1727
01:13:04,875 --> 01:13:06,466
fielders in the, I guarantee there are

1728
01:13:06,471 --> 01:13:07,575
guys who play center.

1729
01:13:07,575 --> 01:13:08,235
They probably talk.

1730
01:13:08,235 --> 01:13:08,415
Yeah.

1731
01:13:08,415 --> 01:13:12,255
I, and, and they, we actually have a
couple of, um, high school kids coming in.

1732
01:13:12,255 --> 01:13:13,875
I, I, which again,
they'll, we'll talk about.

1733
01:13:13,875 --> 01:13:17,715
I don't, I, I know they both had, we,
the guys, I'm thinking of the top of my

1734
01:13:17,715 --> 01:13:19,305
head, Nick Felton and Bennett Siegel.

1735
01:13:19,635 --> 01:13:22,335
Um, I don't know how much either one of
'em played center field, to be honest.

1736
01:13:22,335 --> 01:13:25,245
I didn't get a chance they, to
schedule wise and, and distance wise

1737
01:13:25,245 --> 01:13:26,325
didn't get a chance to see them play.

1738
01:13:26,715 --> 01:13:28,845
Um, so I don't know how
much they play center field.

1739
01:13:28,845 --> 01:13:31,695
I don't know, you know, where
they're, if they're looking at them

1740
01:13:31,695 --> 01:13:34,125
as being guys who come in immediately
play or not, you know, who knows?

1741
01:13:34,125 --> 01:13:35,325
But there, there are options.

1742
01:13:35,325 --> 01:13:37,275
You know, there, there guys are around.

1743
01:13:37,305 --> 01:13:37,515
Yeah.

1744
01:13:37,545 --> 01:13:39,285
I mean, at the end of the day,
somebody's gonna play center field.

1745
01:13:39,285 --> 01:13:39,855
We're gonna work it out.

1746
01:13:39,950 --> 01:13:42,765
I, I guarantee you that, um,
somebody's gonna be out there.

1747
01:13:42,975 --> 01:13:45,825
Um, maybe they don't exist on their
roster yet, but maybe they will.

1748
01:13:46,890 --> 01:13:49,530
Yeah, we will wait and see
how that all plays out.

1749
01:13:49,530 --> 01:13:53,940
The portal does close on July
2nd, so after July 2nd, no one

1750
01:13:53,940 --> 01:13:57,360
else can go into the portal
unless there is a coaching change.

1751
01:13:57,780 --> 01:13:59,430
Uh, so at least know who we are.

1752
01:13:59,430 --> 01:14:02,789
Definitely retaining, at least from
a portal standpoint after July 2nd.

1753
01:14:03,480 --> 01:14:06,450
Uh, honestly, I expected
much larger numbers.

1754
01:14:06,450 --> 01:14:09,270
I think the last few seasons we have
had much higher numbers in the portal.

1755
01:14:09,270 --> 01:14:09,360
Mm-hmm.

1756
01:14:09,600 --> 01:14:11,760
And they've all gone in
those first couple days.

1757
01:14:11,910 --> 01:14:17,610
So the fact that it's not 15, 16, 17
right now kind of gives some some power

1758
01:14:17,610 --> 01:14:21,000
behind what Finney said, where I think
we've figured this thing out a little bit

1759
01:14:21,000 --> 01:14:24,900
better this year than we have in years
past in terms of roster management, which

1760
01:14:24,900 --> 01:14:29,190
I think is really important because I
don't think you can consistently turn over

1761
01:14:29,190 --> 01:14:31,020
half your roster every year, but a third.

1762
01:14:31,665 --> 01:14:34,095
It's probably just, it's probably gonna be

1763
01:14:34,785 --> 01:14:38,295
what happens in college sports
anyway is about almost a third.

1764
01:14:38,295 --> 01:14:39,675
I mean, that's just realistically.

1765
01:14:40,125 --> 01:14:43,065
Um, so I don't think that, I think that
you're kind of reading in a real chance.

1766
01:14:43,065 --> 01:14:43,395
Yeah.

1767
01:14:43,635 --> 01:14:47,145
And, and, and again, Kainen was the
only guy that was probably surprising.

1768
01:14:47,475 --> 01:14:49,035
Um, the rest of the guys
was like, Hey, I get it.

1769
01:14:49,035 --> 01:14:50,985
You wanna go somewhere and have
a chance and get to play more?

1770
01:14:51,015 --> 01:14:54,165
I mean, really if you're, if you're
at school and you're not getting

1771
01:14:54,165 --> 01:14:56,235
a chance to play, that's what
the transfer portal should be for

1772
01:14:56,685 --> 01:14:58,425
frankly, is you're, you're at a place.

1773
01:14:58,590 --> 01:15:02,265
It, it shouldn't be like, well, I'm good
here, so let me go, they're gonna pay

1774
01:15:02,265 --> 01:15:03,735
me money to go be better somewhere else.

1775
01:15:03,735 --> 01:15:03,945
Right.

1776
01:15:03,945 --> 01:15:07,635
It's like, it should be like, Hey,
you know what, I, I wanna play ball.

1777
01:15:07,905 --> 01:15:10,095
Um, I wanna go somewhere
else and get to play.

1778
01:15:10,305 --> 01:15:10,665
Alright.

1779
01:15:10,755 --> 01:15:11,565
Yeah, go for it, man.

1780
01:15:11,865 --> 01:15:12,410
Like, that's what we want.

1781
01:15:12,415 --> 01:15:15,195
I mean, not everybody, like
Bryce Jones is kind of anomaly.

1782
01:15:15,195 --> 01:15:18,045
Bryce Jones, you know, he, he'd
probably, if he'd gone somewhere in

1783
01:15:18,045 --> 01:15:19,215
the T world, he could have played more.

1784
01:15:19,220 --> 01:15:19,490
Yeah.

1785
01:15:19,545 --> 01:15:20,445
I, I think it's reality.

1786
01:15:20,445 --> 01:15:23,685
But he wanted to play here at home,
wanted to play with his, his, his

1787
01:15:23,715 --> 01:15:25,545
best friend, uh, Kyle Edwards.

1788
01:15:25,815 --> 01:15:28,305
And for him it was, it was the
right thing to do to play here.

1789
01:15:28,515 --> 01:15:28,815
Right.

1790
01:15:28,815 --> 01:15:29,685
You know, so he didn't.

1791
01:15:30,030 --> 01:15:31,799
Have any reason to jump in
the portal at any point.

1792
01:15:31,950 --> 01:15:36,870
Um, you know, but somebody else in his
case, I mean, you know, a good example

1793
01:15:36,870 --> 01:15:39,000
of a guy, um, we had was Joey Morton.

1794
01:15:39,450 --> 01:15:40,679
Um, we had him as a freshman.

1795
01:15:41,070 --> 01:15:45,240
Uh, he was here and he, he was at the
same class as, as Kyle and, uh, and Bryce.

1796
01:15:45,360 --> 01:15:49,200
He registered that year and he went in
the portal, um, or went, I don't even

1797
01:15:49,200 --> 01:15:51,599
know if it was in the port at that
point, but he went to a JUCO after that.

1798
01:15:52,019 --> 01:15:54,299
Uh, he played really great at JUCO
for a couple years, and this year he

1799
01:15:54,299 --> 01:15:55,500
was at Campbell and he played great.

1800
01:15:55,919 --> 01:15:59,849
And, and the reality is like if he'd
have stayed at ODU u maybe he'd have

1801
01:15:59,849 --> 01:16:02,459
gotten a shot, maybe he wouldn't have,
but my guess is he wouldn't have had the

1802
01:16:02,459 --> 01:16:06,599
same year here at ODU U that he had at
Campbell, uh, because he wouldn't have

1803
01:16:06,599 --> 01:16:08,490
gotten those two years of playing at Juco.

1804
01:16:08,790 --> 01:16:10,500
I mean, and 'cause Joey's
a great ball player.

1805
01:16:10,504 --> 01:16:11,580
He is a, he is, he is really good.

1806
01:16:11,580 --> 01:16:13,230
I mean, we knew we, we
brought him in 'cause of that.

1807
01:16:13,230 --> 01:16:17,624
He's a big, big horse of, if people don't
wanna remember him, he didn't play big 6

1808
01:16:17,624 --> 01:16:21,330
4, 6 5, first base, uh, big lefty hitter.

1809
01:16:21,660 --> 01:16:25,349
Um, so, you know, it's, it's not
always, sometimes it's the kids gotta

1810
01:16:25,349 --> 01:16:26,280
do what's, what's best for them.

1811
01:16:26,280 --> 01:16:27,570
They gotta go to a place where they can.

1812
01:16:28,245 --> 01:16:30,435
If you really care about playing,
go to a place for you to play.

1813
01:16:30,975 --> 01:16:33,645
If you really care about being at the
school and hanging out, you don't mind.

1814
01:16:33,825 --> 01:16:35,655
I mean, John Keane's a
great example, right?

1815
01:16:35,655 --> 01:16:37,275
John Kean was here for five years.

1816
01:16:37,575 --> 01:16:38,895
He really did not get to play a lot.

1817
01:16:38,895 --> 01:16:41,415
He got like maybe what, 10
bats as a catcher, maybe like

1818
01:16:42,285 --> 01:16:43,215
eight innings as a pitcher.

1819
01:16:43,215 --> 01:16:44,445
I don't think he even got that much.

1820
01:16:44,745 --> 01:16:46,215
Um, but he loved it.

1821
01:16:46,245 --> 01:16:48,855
He's here stuck with
us coaching, you know?

1822
01:16:48,855 --> 01:16:51,045
Because for him what was important
was he wanted to be here, wanted to

1823
01:16:51,045 --> 01:16:54,585
be a school, wanted to be with the
guys and, and playing, you know,

1824
01:16:54,795 --> 01:16:55,635
I'm sure he would've loved it.

1825
01:16:55,635 --> 01:16:58,485
We played him all the time, but it
wasn't the deciding factor for him.

1826
01:16:58,485 --> 01:17:00,795
So everybody's gotta figure
out what matters most to him.

1827
01:17:01,455 --> 01:17:04,845
You heard H talking about him
and Pond and everybody else.

1828
01:17:05,085 --> 01:17:09,615
You're getting a return on that
investment as a player now as a coach.

1829
01:17:10,335 --> 01:17:10,395
Yeah.

1830
01:17:10,395 --> 01:17:12,915
I don't envy those guys having
to go through this portal.

1831
01:17:13,155 --> 01:17:15,945
'cause when I say 5,100, that's not juco.

1832
01:17:16,545 --> 01:17:17,685
That's not juco.

1833
01:17:17,685 --> 01:17:22,785
That is D one, D two, D three,
and 3,100 are division one.

1834
01:17:22,785 --> 01:17:25,185
And then you've got, I don't
know, maybe half of that.

1835
01:17:25,185 --> 01:17:27,345
They're JUCO guys that are
looking to make a move.

1836
01:17:27,690 --> 01:17:31,200
I mean the, it, it's wild how
many players are out there.

1837
01:17:31,200 --> 01:17:34,230
It's similar in complexity
to recruiting high school.

1838
01:17:34,230 --> 01:17:35,759
Like where do you start
recruiting high school?

1839
01:17:35,759 --> 01:17:35,820
Yeah.

1840
01:17:36,210 --> 01:17:38,309
You gotta stick to the, the
people centers, you know,

1841
01:17:38,309 --> 01:17:39,299
the people that you know.

1842
01:17:39,304 --> 01:17:39,445
Yeah.

1843
01:17:39,960 --> 01:17:41,370
The teams of the prestige.

1844
01:17:41,639 --> 01:17:44,730
They, they aren't running up to, you
know, little single a Middlesex County

1845
01:17:44,730 --> 01:17:46,080
where I played to come scout me.

1846
01:17:46,110 --> 01:17:50,040
'cause why would you, when you
can go to, you pass 80 better high

1847
01:17:50,040 --> 01:17:51,660
school programs on the way there.

1848
01:17:51,665 --> 01:17:51,804
Yeah.

1849
01:17:52,139 --> 01:17:53,969
So it's, well, and then also like they had

1850
01:17:53,969 --> 01:17:56,040
was at the last few weeks they
had the big tournament down in

1851
01:17:56,040 --> 01:18:00,059
Atlanta where like every pretty
much top player in the country of

1852
01:18:00,059 --> 01:18:01,380
high school was down there playing.

1853
01:18:01,559 --> 01:18:04,589
You know, so I mean you probably had a
bazillion coaches down there, so I mean

1854
01:18:04,589 --> 01:18:08,070
you Yeah, you're even the high school
ball, it's like, you know, during high

1855
01:18:08,070 --> 01:18:10,440
when they're playing high school ball, the
coaches are coaching, they're all playing.

1856
01:18:10,440 --> 01:18:12,480
So you, you got a lot of things.

1857
01:18:12,480 --> 01:18:15,150
So you can play at that little
podunk school as long as you

1858
01:18:15,150 --> 01:18:17,700
play at the right travel ball
and get with the right coaches.

1859
01:18:17,700 --> 01:18:18,030
Correct.

1860
01:18:18,330 --> 01:18:19,380
In the right place and get seen.

1861
01:18:19,469 --> 01:18:22,980
There're plenty of, there's a
kid, um, uh, that I really like.

1862
01:18:22,980 --> 01:18:23,759
That's from one of these.

1863
01:18:24,075 --> 01:18:25,155
Little small towns.

1864
01:18:25,155 --> 01:18:28,575
It's, it's technically Hampton Roads,
but it's like the edge of Hampton Roads

1865
01:18:28,575 --> 01:18:29,775
where it's like barely Hampton Roads.

1866
01:18:29,775 --> 01:18:32,474
And that kid's a guy I, I've gotten see
him, 'cause he is been on the right travel

1867
01:18:32,474 --> 01:18:33,554
ball team and he is one of those guys.

1868
01:18:33,554 --> 01:18:36,165
Like I'm, I've been telling the coach
like, Hey, this kid's a horse man.

1869
01:18:36,165 --> 01:18:40,065
This kid's a, he, I first saw him, he
was like, about an incoming freshman.

1870
01:18:40,065 --> 01:18:41,594
And I was like, this kid
looks like a grown man.

1871
01:18:44,320 --> 01:18:44,660
Got it.

1872
01:18:45,344 --> 01:18:47,474
I mean, you know, you can,
you can be a nowhere school.

1873
01:18:47,474 --> 01:18:49,065
It's just, you gotta be
in the right situations.

1874
01:18:49,065 --> 01:18:52,275
And that's, that's also then you get to
the problems of like travel ball being

1875
01:18:52,275 --> 01:18:54,045
just like a giant money making scheme.

1876
01:18:54,045 --> 01:18:56,955
And you, the number of guys who
aren't actually good coaches

1877
01:18:56,955 --> 01:18:57,974
or, or through the roof.

1878
01:18:59,175 --> 01:19:02,865
E travel ball circuit could have
its own podcast episode with the

1879
01:19:02,865 --> 01:19:04,395
shenanigans that occur there.

1880
01:19:04,815 --> 01:19:06,435
Uh, it's like a 30 for 30

1881
01:19:06,765 --> 01:19:08,145
on the, the greatest scam of all time.

1882
01:19:08,535 --> 01:19:10,095
Yeah, it's, it's up there.

1883
01:19:10,095 --> 01:19:10,485
It's up there.

1884
01:19:10,485 --> 01:19:11,145
Pretty good.

1885
01:19:11,715 --> 01:19:15,285
Well, uh, kind of programming note
for us, we're targeting kind of the

1886
01:19:15,285 --> 01:19:17,535
back half of July for another episode.

1887
01:19:17,535 --> 01:19:20,235
That will likely be the one with
Marin talking about recruiting.

1888
01:19:20,505 --> 01:19:23,835
We have a couple other ones that we may
record and release it at certain times

1889
01:19:23,835 --> 01:19:27,105
too, but we just wanna keep you connected
to the program in the off season.

1890
01:19:27,105 --> 01:19:27,195
Yep.

1891
01:19:27,195 --> 01:19:28,275
It's the first time we're doing it.

1892
01:19:28,305 --> 01:19:31,785
If you've got an idea for something,
shoot me a cb, a dm, a monarchist

1893
01:19:31,785 --> 01:19:35,475
account, a dm, uh, because we, we
want bring you what you want to hear.

1894
01:19:35,895 --> 01:19:38,235
So hopefully you enjoy this.

1895
01:19:38,235 --> 01:19:42,885
Not talking about baseball in the
field episode, uh, but obviously

1896
01:19:42,885 --> 01:19:44,805
some, some critical and timely.

1897
01:19:44,805 --> 01:19:46,695
This is what, it's fun
'cause nothing bad happens.

1898
01:19:47,325 --> 01:19:47,445
Yeah.

1899
01:19:47,445 --> 01:19:49,005
We cannot lose the baseball game.

1900
01:19:49,395 --> 01:19:50,715
We don't have to, uh, worry about that.

1901
01:19:51,480 --> 01:19:54,480
It's the thing I like about the right
before the season starts, it's like

1902
01:19:54,480 --> 01:19:57,780
that, but like way earlier where it's
like, oh, good stuff might happen.

1903
01:19:57,780 --> 01:19:58,110
Who knows?

1904
01:19:58,140 --> 01:19:59,370
Nothing bad happened yet.

1905
01:19:59,430 --> 01:19:59,730
Yeah.

1906
01:19:59,730 --> 01:20:00,960
It's, it's, it's fun to me.

1907
01:20:01,470 --> 01:20:01,710
Yeah.

1908
01:20:01,710 --> 01:20:04,140
And when, you know, we talk about
the guys that are definitely

1909
01:20:04,140 --> 01:20:07,920
coming in and then we'll get some
updates on them now in fall balls.

1910
01:20:07,920 --> 01:20:11,400
So you kind of know who to look out
for even before the season starts.

1911
01:20:11,400 --> 01:20:14,045
I think that's really, really
what we're trying to do here, but.

1912
01:20:14,670 --> 01:20:18,060
I don't mind interrupting my, uh,
Monday evening to talk baseball.

1913
01:20:18,060 --> 01:20:19,140
It's sure better than working.

1914
01:20:19,140 --> 01:20:19,890
I can promise you

1915
01:20:20,460 --> 01:20:22,620
it was me sitting on the couch
watching something with a cat.

1916
01:20:22,620 --> 01:20:23,280
That that was it.

1917
01:20:23,280 --> 01:20:24,060
So this is much better.

1918
01:20:25,110 --> 01:20:27,390
Yes, she's she's mad at me right now.

1919
01:20:27,390 --> 01:20:27,960
But other than that,

1920
01:20:28,260 --> 01:20:31,170
well, I, I will say your curtain
held up better than normally.

1921
01:20:31,980 --> 01:20:32,400
Yeah.

1922
01:20:32,790 --> 01:20:33,690
Little peel.

1923
01:20:34,260 --> 01:20:37,110
I was waiting to see the paw prints
come up and just yank that thing down.

1924
01:20:37,110 --> 01:20:37,260
So

1925
01:20:37,980 --> 01:20:39,420
she is not allowed in this room at all.

1926
01:20:39,420 --> 01:20:41,940
There's a gate specifically
to keep her out stuff.

1927
01:20:41,940 --> 01:20:44,460
There's so many, so many things
in there to knock off shelves.

1928
01:20:44,520 --> 01:20:44,580
Yeah.

1929
01:20:44,880 --> 01:20:46,710
No, there's so many edible
things in this room.

1930
01:20:47,880 --> 01:20:48,540
All right, Gary.

1931
01:20:48,545 --> 01:20:50,100
I, I enjoyed it as always.

1932
01:20:50,100 --> 01:20:52,350
I'm, I'm, I love getting
to talk to the guys.

1933
01:20:52,350 --> 01:20:53,070
It's, it's fun.

1934
01:20:53,070 --> 01:20:55,680
It just keeps you excited about
the, the, the future load you

1935
01:20:55,680 --> 01:20:56,910
baseball, which I think is awesome.

1936
01:20:56,910 --> 01:21:00,180
I'm like, I think the opening up
this new stadium is gonna be awesome.

1937
01:21:00,300 --> 01:21:01,020
I, I can't wait.

1938
01:21:01,500 --> 01:21:04,770
The countdown is on to the 2026 season cb.

1939
01:21:04,770 --> 01:21:05,640
Appreciate it.

1940
01:21:05,670 --> 01:21:06,450
Have fun.

1941
01:21:07,170 --> 01:21:09,570
Uh, and we will talk to you all soon.

1942
01:21:09,570 --> 01:21:10,380
Go monarchs.

1943
01:21:10,620 --> 01:21:11,730
Go Monarchs.