Marcus Green
was a quiet kid growing up in Queens.
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Facing many challenges,
including an absentee father
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and a drug dealing mother
whose life was tragically cut short.
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Leading a life of drug dealing and violent
crime puts Marcus in peril himself.
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And within moments from death.
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Will Marcus in fact,
get rich or die tryin?
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Welcome to Hip-Hop Movie Club.
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This is a show for Gen-X hip hop fans
who want to relive the glory days
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and reconsider classic and modern hip
hop films from a current day perspective.
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Together, we'll explore some of the larger
societal issues raised in these films.
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Whether you have or have not seen
Get Rich or Die Tryin’ before.
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We'll help you decide if you should take
the time to watch it now.
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Either way, you’ll be a smarter
hip hop fan by the end of this episode.
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The next 30 minutes
or so, you'll get all this and more.
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We're three old
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heads who put their old heads together
to vibe on these films for you.
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I'm DynoWright, podcaster, filmmaker,
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long time
Hip-Hop fan, and I'm a fan of 50 Cent's
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acting work in his VitaminWater commercial
with NBA legend Steve Nash.
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I’m JB, eighties and nineties
nostalgia junkie, longtime hip hop fan
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and I did in fact own a pair of parachute
pants back in the eighties.
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Those pants had no less than ten zippers,
I swear.
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That's amazing!
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I’m BooGie, a deejay, longtime
hip hop fan.
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And I saw Kurtis Blow and Sugarhill
Gang in concert over the summer.
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In this episode we’ll answer the question:
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Should you die tryin to see this movie?
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Get Rich or Die
Tryin’ is 2005 crime drama starring Curtis
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“50 Cent” Jackson with some
with some autobiographical elements.
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It tells the story of the hardscrabble
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upbringing of Marcus Greer
navigating life marred by tragedy.
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He deals drugs from a young age,
gets caught up in a life of violent crime,
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navigates his love life
and the rap game despite major setbacks.
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Let's get right into it.
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Marcus Greer is the main protagonist here,
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played by 50 Cent.
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What was Marcus's upbringing like?
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Such as who were the major influence
and influences in his life?
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Boogie want to kick us off with that?
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Yeah.
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So in the beginning we see, you know,
Marcus had a tight bond with his mother,
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but he didn't know who his father was.
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Unfortunately, his mother was murdered
while he was young.
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He ended up
staying with his grandparents, and
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it seemed like every family members
that stayed with them.
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His mother used to spoil him a lot.
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You know while she would go out
and she sold drugs.
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But was she
You know, she always bought him
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the latest sneakers or,
you know, his fresh his fresh clothes.
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But after he had to go
stay with his grandparents, he got tired
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of being laughed at and decided
to sell drugs to buy them new sneakers.
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Later on down the line when
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you to come into contact
with Mark Majestic, who was actually
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one of the local
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I guess you would call him, he's an
underboss because he wasn't the big boss.
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As we find out later on.
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But Majestic took Marcus in kind of
almost like a father figure, but
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introduced him to the
to the drug game on a different level,
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but showed him the rules of how to hustle
and everything like that.
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But as he as Marcus got older,
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he did kind of reconcile
with his grandparents.
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His grandparents were still around
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to a certain extent.
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And then he found his long lost friend in
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Charlene,
and they developed a love relationship.
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Luckily, she probably was one of his.
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The best thing that happened
to him in the movie, because
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if she wouldn't have, you know,
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kind of kept him going, who knows where
he would've spiraled out of control.
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But then there was a
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Levar Cahill, who was the main
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boss of the whole the whole circuit
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who actually took a liking to Marcus, but
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through Majestic’s
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sneakiness,
got him put away for a long time.
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But I think the major influence,
I would probably say,
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unfortunately Majestic,
was a major influence in his life.
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His grandparents was somewhat there
as he got to
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where they were when he was younger
and was somewhat there when he got older.
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Charlene was that was definitely
a strong influence as she developed.
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You know,
they developed their relationship
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and she became pregnant
with Marcus's child.
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That kind of game gave him a little bit
more focus in life as well.
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But other than that, most most people,
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when they were trying to be be cliche:
get rich or die tryin’.
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Yeah, I think you covered it
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really well.
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Mother was dealing drugs
and he would see this firsthand.
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We see this in some of these movies
where as a young child,
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they're exposed to this life of crime and
they think that that's the only way out.
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And especially,
you know, having both parents,
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having both parents out of the picture,
unfortunately leaves him on his own.
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He was dealing drugs from the age of 12.
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It looks like something really young.
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And he was getting into fights because
he was very territorial, as we say.
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So it's just a
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hardscrabble upbringing.
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Anything else to add on that, DynoWright?
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It's kind of we've seen this kind of story
before.
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Hardscrabble upbringing.
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He loves rap music.
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And so that's a dream
he has or the protagonist
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has so really wasn't as
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I didn't think it was
all of that interesting,
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like we've seen it so many times, but
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the angle of the mother
being the drug dealer
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and she was actually kind
of a strong influence,
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like a positive influence in his life.
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It's just had a weird job of
being a drug dealer that was kind of nice.
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There was like real love there,
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and it's just too bad
that she didn't live that long to see him.
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Like, get out of the out of the out
of the struggle there.
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The one line,
I think when she was telling him,
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she made sure that, you know,
promise me that you're
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going to treat girls, you’re
gonna treat him right.
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Yeah. You're going to do right by them.
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You know. Yeah.
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To hear that come from the mother,
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no matter what
he does throughout his life,
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that's always going to sit
in the back of his head
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to a certain extent, you know, especially
coming from his mother.
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It’s a
perfect segue way of treating women.
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Right.
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So let's talk about his love
interest, Charlene, that you referenced
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before, BooGie.
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I'll I'll kind of give the background.
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Charlene was Marcus's really good
childhood friend.
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They spent a lot of time together.
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When he said, Can I go out and play,
you know, he would go over and
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go to her house and they would
they would play child games.
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She was really close with her.
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And in fact, he started rapping about her
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and he had that song, Best Friend,
that he put on a cassette.
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And it did have some suggestive lyrics
that he didn't really know
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what it all meant at the time.
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And her parents,
I think, you know, had heard it.
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She was sent off to move
and live with her step parents.
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So and as you mentioned, they reunite
several years later.
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They're both grown up
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and he's living the thug life
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while he's trying to break
into the music industry.
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And, you know,
she was, I think, teaching dance classes
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and trying to do her own thing
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and then reconvene and reconnect and
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it was it was nice to see them reconnect.
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And then she's trying to comprehend, like,
what do you do for a living?
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What you do is like, I'm a gangster.
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She said, what? I'm a rapper. I'm
a gangster...rapper.
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That's kind of funny.
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Yeah, that was kind of funny piece. Yeah,
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I did like the character of Charlene.
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She provides a nice moral counterweight
to his life of crime.
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I didn't appreciate.
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And this this is not uncommon, but
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the girl
gets in trouble for the man's advances,
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and so she got sent away
because, like, a boy liked her.
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I mean, that's.
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I know it's just a story, but
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yeah, there's this sort of there
there's a misogyny
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that's kind of packaged in this story
somewhere and yeah, it's,
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you know, it also serves the story
that she has to go away
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and then they come back for this
nice reunion.
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But yeah, that part was like,
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I don't if this actually happened or not.
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I mean, I don't, I don't know that of that
of we'll talk about this but yeah.
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What parts are real
and fictitious as opposed to
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in relation to 50 Cent's actual life.
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Right.
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So when you say like you he
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he makes the song suggestively
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and at some point you got to realize that,
you know, hey, this is our daughter.
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We told her right from. Wrong,
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like.
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You would want to have faith
in your parenting skills.
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Yeah. Yeah.
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I don't know but you got to go away.
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I was like huh?!
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That she didn’t do anything wrong.
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She did nothing.
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She did nothing wrong.
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I'm sure.
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Like, they've seen worse things
on the street or heard worse things with.
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Yeah. In the neighborhood.
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But, yeah, it was something that
you kind of have a conversation about.
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Maybe come over to the house,
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speak to the grandparents or whatever,
and say, teachable moment.
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Yeah, teachable moment, right?
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Yeah. Yeah.
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They sent away.
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So that.
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Yeah, it was kind of interesting.
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Instead,
you have a plot contrivance and. You go.
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With, like,
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it wasn't like,
you know, it was just Marcus
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or Charlene hanging out was like,
Marcus, Charlene.
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Antoine was there.
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Like it was a couple other kids.
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You don't see as they get older.
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But Antoine was one of the kids.
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I think they were all hanging out.
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It was a group of she
just had to be the one girl in the group.
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Yeah, probably a tomboy.
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Yeah, sure.
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Yeah, yeah.
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It was a great teachable moment.
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But I really enjoyed her performance.
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Joy Bryant was very good in this.
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Yeah, She's a gem.
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She's a gem.
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Everything I've seen her in, even if it's
a minor role, she's been really good.
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How did Marcus become a rap star?
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How does he develop his rap game?
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I know early on
he had bars since he was a child.
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He was writing and there was a scene
early on with his mother.
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She she heard him rapping at like 3 a.m.
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She's like, Marcus, it's 3am,
Oh i didn't realize that.
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And when he ultimately gets imprisoned,
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he takes it to a new level
because he has that time
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and that kind of kept him sane.
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But how do you
how do you both see his development
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into becoming a rap star?
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So he was the one who said
it was one funny scene.
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It made me laugh.
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It was when
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after he decided to not stay
with the grandparents anymore
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and he went and got the place by himself,
he said, and now,
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I got my own place
and I could focus on becoming a rapper.
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And he sits down, he starts
trying to get through the one line okay.
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And he starts over, starts
to get through the one line again.
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He tries to get through the one line again
because it dang I should wrote that.
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Then I said, Well, I'm hungry.
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I guess it’s time to rob
and make this money.
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Like.
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Yeah,
he's like, I'm done with this rap thing.
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I'm going to go back to just selling drugs
full time. It was like the shortest rap
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career ever, it’s like an hour.
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Oh man.
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Other people that review
this movie have talked
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about how there's not enough
about his progression as a rapper
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and there's too much about the crime
stuff.
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And I agree, you know, he turned
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he went from this life
to a rapper's, successful life.
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And you don't really see
all that much of it.
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I mean, you see some of it.
You see pieces of it.
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I wish I saw more of it
because that was interesting to me,
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like we had seen in Hustle and Flow,
like we always saw
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DJay work on his stuff, right?
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You know? That's true.
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It's another rags to riches story.
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Yeah.
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And so dramatic, in fact,
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that he was on the verge of death
when he got shot nine times.
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There's this duel with the Colombian gang
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and they're just always
shooting up each other. And.
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But in this case, it was a hit
that was out from Majestic’s
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crew that he was ambushed.
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But I think that the thing about the rap
game, which makes it so impressive,
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he was shot in the face and he had
a bullet in the tongue and he ends up
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having a slurred type of speech.
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And that is something
that's unique to his style and flow.
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And it
if you remember when he was rehabbing,
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he actually moved out to the Poconos
in real life.
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And I think out in the mountains
and Charlene was helping him,
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barely can walk and couldn't talk.
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And then when you can finally get
on the microphone, his speech is slurred.
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But as he got better
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from it, it was a unique style.
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So it's something uni-
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interesting where you like.
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If someone didn't know the back story
and you hear 50 Cent’s style.
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Yeah, he doesn't really enunciate.
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You know, he's got an interesting flow
but now we kind of know the back story.
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I think the one good thing too,
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when they show his progression,
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like you say, they hinted a little bit
to the progression.
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Was Bama's character.
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Our man Terrence Howard Yeah, yeah.
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Howard You know, he was, he was in jail.
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It was just, it was mere coincidence
that he just happened to be in the shower
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at the same time when, you know,
there was an apparent hit on Marcus
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and Bama was just there and said, okay,
I guess I might try to help this guy.
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I didn't even know him and intervene
And he started fighting off the guys
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and ended up getting a pretty severe
beatdown from the corrections officers.
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And then they met him on the floor, hands
behind their back coats,
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and they just introduced themselves like,
Hey, man, you saved my life.
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Yeah, well, you look like you might have
needed a little bit of saving.
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But, you know, when
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Marcus gets put in looks like, looks
they put him in solitary confinement.
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Because he’s in there, you don’t
see anybody else interacting with him,
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and he starts
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kind of scratching, looks like he’s
scratching, might have been
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scratching lyrics into the wall.
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And he's like,
you know, if I didn't express myself
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I might have, I might have you know,
took my own life in there.
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Yeah.
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And you know, he's decided from that point
on that he was going to start
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focusing on, you know, telling the truth
and not letting anybody
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stand in his way of saying what was,
you know, what was the truth.
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And Bama kind of started catching on to,
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you know, to say, hey,
this guy's got something.
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You know, let me see if I can try to keep
him focused by becoming his manager.
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And Bama got out.
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And when Marcus got out, you know,
they started, they went right to it.
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You see clips of Bama,
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you know, going to the into the clubs
with the record, like, hey, you know,
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you might want to play this,
you know, put this or try to play this.
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And you know, it was hustling
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constantly
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out of the trunk or out of the bag
on the streets, like,
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you know, real boots to concrete.
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And I was like, wow,
that was kind of dope.
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But that's very similar to what we saw
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in Hustle and Flow
while Yeah, DJay was locked up.
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The correlation between the two
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movies, coincidentally, you have DJay.
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in Hustle and Flow, you know Bama is doing
the same thing in this movie.
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So I was like, wow, look at that.
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the funny line
when he said his name was Bama.
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Did you catch that
when they’re laying down?
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Are you from Alabama?
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Is that why you call him that?
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It’s like naw, Carolina,
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why do you call Bama?
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I didn't want to be called Lina
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like that.
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Seems that seems so like out out there
that it has to be true.
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Yeah. I wonder
if this is part of the true stuff.
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So I don't know.
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I mean, we'll get to what's true,
what's not, or what we've heard.
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I don't even know
if the character of Bama is true or not.
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I couldn't really find that or not.
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It's like his manager to me.
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Like we would have known
if that was a real thing.
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Yeah, probably.
So that was probably fabricated.
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Any of that was written for the story
or for the movie.
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Probably. Yeah.
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No, I was going to ask
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next, what was the dynamic between
Majestic and Marcus?
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I know Boogie already touched on that.
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Of course in the beginning,
you know, Majestic was
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Lavar’s right hand man kind of underling
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to the big king kingpin Lavar.
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And he and he mentored
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Marcus a bit but then you know
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he turns really heel because he's
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greedy and wants to run the whole empire.
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He was he was a bit of a snake.
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I mean, even just the fact that, you know,
we find out down the road
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that he was actually the one who
who who murdered Marcus’s mother,
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you know, out of out of jealousy
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but just the fact that he knew
the whole time,
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knowing that who he was and what he did,
just trying to string Marcus along.
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And I think the reason why he he was
so into Marcus is because Marcus has such
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a strong work ethic where he and his crew
were really just about making money
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upon making money making money,
and they were really good at it.
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Had they been mediocre or even poorly,
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poorly performing crew, I'm
pretty sure Majestic wouldn't have
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would have had such a strong hold to them.
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He knew
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they were making him a lot of money,
so he was just trying to ride the wave,
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you know, for lack of a better word.
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Yeah.
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Yeah,
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yeah.
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I guess this could take us
into the question
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of how much of Marcus’s
story was true to life.
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50 Cent's story in real life.
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And let me just twist
that back with Majestic.
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We were just talking about.
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I don't know if you guys had looked it
up or read, but that's supposedly based on
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Kenneth Supreme McGriff,
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who was a New York drug
lord suspected of being
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he was the one that suspected
to be involved with the murder of Jam
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Master Jay’s shooting,
the shooting of Jam Master Jay.
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In fact, I think it was
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50 Cent had put some lyrics about McGriff
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in some of his songs implicating him in
some some crimes and stuff like that.
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So that's why there was that that beef
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and also his
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the the rapper that was under McGriff’s
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crew or Majestic’s crew
who was called Dangerous
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and that was actually supposed to be
Ja Rule
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from what I read.
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So he didn't look like him
or sound like him.
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But you remember that comment in the movie
where he says
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for 50 Cent or his character says,
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I got shot up nine times
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and he's got these number one hits
and it was Dangerous on the radio
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that was really Ja Rule
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because Ja Rule kept coming out with hit
after hit while he was laid up with his
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with his injuries from the shooting.
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So that was the parallel.
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Yeah, Majestic Was, yeah.
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But Majestic was McGriff
and Dangerous was actually Ja Rule.
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So in terms of what is real
and what's fictitious in the movie,
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I was joking earlier
I was like I kept wanting to call him
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Curtis because his name's Curtis Jackson
in real life and here he’s Marcus.
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So it's there was a
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I found out that there was an interview
that 50 Cent did
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with Conan O'Brien shortly
after the film came out,
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and he said that the film was about 75%
accurate.
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Yeah, I read that, too.
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Yeah, about 25% was made up for the movie.
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I did watch it on the DVD
and there had some behind
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the scenes footage and interviews.
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And the producer of the film was,
an Irishman named Jim Sheridan.
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The director.
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The director. Sorry, the director.
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Yeah. He gave a lot of insight into it.
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He mentioned Ja Rule by name,
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and he also mentioned him
and 50 became really close in the filming.
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50 Cent said that his mother
was actually killed
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by somebody putting something in her drink
and then turning on the gas.
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So it wasn't
that her body was burned at the stake.
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You know.
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But it was so nefarious nature
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and also that he was shot in broad
daylight and was actually in the car,
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whereas in the movie he was, I guess,
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toward, near his car or taking something
out of the trunk Behind his car.
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Behind his car.
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And he was shooting back
and trying to shoot back.
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But in real life,
he was just ambushed in the car.
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But yes, it
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was partially autobiographical stuff.
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Yeah, this is interesting to see,
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but you do get a sense overall,
if you know nothing about 50 Cent, you
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go in the movie, you see all the trauma
that he goes through as a child and
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yeah, I mean, he's no angel.
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He's shooting up folks and dodging bullets
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and he got tagged and tough row to hoe.
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I thought this was a funny tidbit
I was reading
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Roger Ebert's official review
and he said, you know about the title
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Get Rich or Die Trying is a,
you know, quote, because Get Rich or Die
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Trying offers a limited range of choices.
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But we'll probably never see a film called
Get By and Don’t Die.
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I thought that was funny.
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(laughing) Was like,
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Get Rich or Die Tryin is like,
it can't be anything in the middle.
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Like, what if I don't really
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obtain the riches and I don't
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want to have to die
in pursuit of my wealth?
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You know, It's like, okay, can I.
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Yeah, can I just make a living
and be middle class?
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You know.
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And get moderately wealthy?
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Yeah, somewhat rich. Right,
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right right.
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Life long life.
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Yeah. But I mean,
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yeah, if you're talking about folks
like us, you know, you have like
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a corporate job or work in academia
or something like that,
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it doesn't relate
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It doesn't make.
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It doesn't equate.
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You can't compare because Marcus
and Curtis Jackson 50 Cent, you know,
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they grew up in these circumstances
and that seemed like the only way out.
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But it's it is an extreme one or the other
get rich or die trying, but it's like
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a lot of folks in these
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circumstances.
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It's kind of like what he did
say, it’s like get by, don't die,
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like just survive.
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Ebert also says a more accurate title
might have been
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I Got Rich, but just about everyone else
died trying, and so did I.
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Almost. Yeah.
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It kind of reminded me of,
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was it Menace
II Society that we covered recently.
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And there it was.
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Charles S.
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Dutton's character was saying,
Just survive, right?
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Yeah.
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Don't get caught up in this. And like,
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you almost wish that
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Marcus had a
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guardian like that
that convey that message.
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He did have grandparents
that were helpful, but like
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a sage advice, something like that,
although it didn't really help out.
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Yeah.
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Protagonist Caine in in Menace II Society.
482
00:24:27,375 --> 00:24:30,500
But still, it's that voice that you hear
when you're talking about
483
00:24:30,541 --> 00:24:33,833
Get rich or die
trying. It's more or less he was saying,
484
00:24:33,916 --> 00:24:35,291
just survive.
485
00:24:35,291 --> 00:24:38,625
You know, as a young Black male,
you have a target on your back
486
00:24:38,625 --> 00:24:44,583
and you have you're up against it
and you don't want to follow that path.
487
00:24:44,666 --> 00:24:48,916
We have Majestic, you know,
showing everyone how to cook crack.
488
00:24:49,000 --> 00:24:52,333
So it
this is going to get us out of the ghetto.
489
00:24:52,416 --> 00:24:53,375
Yeah.
490
00:24:53,375 --> 00:24:53,625
Okay.
491
00:24:53,625 --> 00:24:56,625
I don't know about that, buddy.
492
00:24:56,833 --> 00:24:58,541
I don't know about that.
493
00:24:58,541 --> 00:25:03,625
Yeah, didn’t
exactly escape from the ghetto.
494
00:25:03,625 --> 00:25:05,750
Again, that's a similarity
to, like, New Jack City.
495
00:25:05,750 --> 00:25:08,750
If you throw back to that,
it's like this is the form of cocaine
496
00:25:08,750 --> 00:25:10,041
that's out there on the street,
and everybody’s
497
00:25:10,041 --> 00:25:12,083
got the powder,
and then all of a sudden it's like,
498
00:25:12,083 --> 00:25:15,583
wow, this crack is like
it's like candy to everybody.
499
00:25:15,583 --> 00:25:18,958
You know,
It's like, this is a game changer.
500
00:25:19,041 --> 00:25:22,041
Yup. Easier to sell, more
501
00:25:22,041 --> 00:25:25,458
attractive to the buyers.
502
00:25:25,541 --> 00:25:28,541
You could spread out,
you could spread your
503
00:25:28,583 --> 00:25:29,375
cocaine out.
504
00:25:29,375 --> 00:25:30,875
And don’t have to give out all at once.
505
00:25:30,875 --> 00:25:33,500
You could spread it out
and sell more of it.
506
00:25:33,500 --> 00:25:35,500
Right.
507
00:25:35,500 --> 00:25:39,666
So let's talk like we do in most episodes,
about the soundtrack.
508
00:25:39,750 --> 00:25:42,625
Obviously, a lot of 50 cent on here.
509
00:25:42,625 --> 00:25:45,416
When it rains, it pours.
I like that track.
510
00:25:45,416 --> 00:25:49,250
I had heard that before,
but it reminded me how good that one was.
511
00:25:49,333 --> 00:25:53,166
Hustler's Ambition, That's the song
that plays, I think, at the end.
512
00:25:53,250 --> 00:25:54,291
Plays at the end.
513
00:25:54,291 --> 00:25:57,041
Yeah Station.
514
00:25:57,041 --> 00:25:59,000
Window shopper was in there.
515
00:25:59,000 --> 00:26:00,375
Yeah,
516
00:26:00,375 --> 00:26:02,708
So there's some songs that they played
actually in the movie,
517
00:26:02,708 --> 00:26:07,500
like old school songs that that aren't
really credited on the soundtrack.
518
00:26:07,500 --> 00:26:08,666
They're not on the soundtrack.
519
00:26:08,666 --> 00:26:11,333
But remember when he was in the car
with his mom and they played
520
00:26:11,333 --> 00:26:12,958
I Can't Live Without My Radio by L.L.
521
00:26:12,958 --> 00:26:14,041
Cool J.
522
00:26:14,041 --> 00:26:18,458
Um hmm I was loving hearing that
523
00:26:18,500 --> 00:26:18,791
there was
524
00:26:18,791 --> 00:26:22,625
another they they played a Beastie Boys
song or something earlier on.
525
00:26:22,625 --> 00:26:23,916
Yeah. Did they play Fight For You?
526
00:26:23,916 --> 00:26:26,458
Right. The party or something?
Yeah, one of the scenes.
527
00:26:26,458 --> 00:26:27,750
Yeah. Yeah.
528
00:26:27,750 --> 00:26:28,375
So there was.
529
00:26:28,375 --> 00:26:29,958
One, one of the exterior scenes.
530
00:26:29,958 --> 00:26:31,041
Yeah. Yeah.
531
00:26:31,041 --> 00:26:37,000
So the mise en scene,
532
00:26:37,083 --> 00:26:39,333
it puts you back in the eighties
when he's growing up
533
00:26:39,333 --> 00:26:41,333
because I looked, he's around our age.
534
00:26:41,333 --> 00:26:42,291
Yeah. Yeah.
535
00:26:42,291 --> 00:26:46,125
So he was true
536
00:26:46,125 --> 00:26:49,791
to form with, with those popular back
then and best friend.
537
00:26:49,958 --> 00:26:50,458
Best friend
538
00:26:50,458 --> 00:26:54,416
is actually a song that he produced
you guys have probably heard that one.
539
00:26:54,500 --> 00:26:54,750
Yeah.
540
00:26:54,750 --> 00:26:58,458
So he actually did
put that track out there.
541
00:26:58,541 --> 00:27:03,041
I think the female is Olivia
that he performs it with.
542
00:27:03,125 --> 00:27:04,250
Yeah.
543
00:27:04,250 --> 00:27:07,708
Yeah.
544
00:27:07,791 --> 00:27:10,875
So I was actually wondering to myself,
and maybe this wasn't the point of
545
00:27:10,875 --> 00:27:16,708
the story is if you think about
because it's not totally autobiographical.
546
00:27:16,791 --> 00:27:17,125
I was
547
00:27:17,125 --> 00:27:21,125
waiting to see where the influence of,
like, Eminem and Dr.
548
00:27:21,125 --> 00:27:25,166
Dre were influential in putting him more
so on the map.
549
00:27:25,250 --> 00:27:28,041
They kind of discovered him
and brought him into Interscope Records.
550
00:27:28,041 --> 00:27:30,583
And yeah, that was in there then.
551
00:27:30,583 --> 00:27:34,291
I mean, In Da Club was this huge hit.
552
00:27:34,375 --> 00:27:37,125
Those two, those things,
those aspects weren't covered in the film.
553
00:27:37,125 --> 00:27:40,375
But again, it's probably because this was
554
00:27:40,416 --> 00:27:43,416
yeah, totally the 50 cent story.
555
00:27:43,666 --> 00:27:45,291
Not totally the 50 cent story.
556
00:27:45,291 --> 00:27:49,083
And once you get to that point, it's
kind of not that interesting.
557
00:27:49,083 --> 00:27:52,250
Like, Eminem and Dre helped them, right?
558
00:27:52,375 --> 00:27:57,208
And they so a lot of movies do this
like they, they only take you so far.
559
00:27:57,208 --> 00:27:57,958
And then it's true and then.
560
00:27:57,958 --> 00:28:00,208
You kind of catch up to the rest of it.
561
00:28:00,208 --> 00:28:08,250
I know we covered a movie that that happened then I think I want to say it was,
562
00:28:08,333 --> 00:28:09,875
maybe it was Straight Outta Compton,
but was...
563
00:28:09,875 --> 00:28:13,041
But something like that where they don't
really show you the entire progression.
564
00:28:13,041 --> 00:28:17,500
And yeah, the interesting part
I thought that would have been
565
00:28:17,541 --> 00:28:21,083
and I don't know how you would do this
in the movie, but Jam Master Jay
566
00:28:21,083 --> 00:28:24,750
is very influential
in getting his career going
567
00:28:24,833 --> 00:28:27,458
before he gets to Eminem and Dre.
568
00:28:27,458 --> 00:28:31,875
And, you know, this connection
with Kenneth McGriff, you know, possibly
569
00:28:31,958 --> 00:28:36,541
being the one that got Jay is
I feel like they be interesting.
570
00:28:36,541 --> 00:28:39,500
But then again, not really 50
Cent’s story.
571
00:28:39,500 --> 00:28:40,041
This is like
572
00:28:40,041 --> 00:28:44,375
based on his based on his life
and not actually his life though, right?
573
00:28:44,458 --> 00:28:45,333
Yeah.
574
00:28:45,333 --> 00:28:48,125
I had the same kind of like
I wonder what they would have done
575
00:28:48,125 --> 00:28:52,625
if they if they had mentioned Eminem
and stuff like that in the, in this film.
576
00:28:52,708 --> 00:28:53,541
Yeah.
577
00:28:53,541 --> 00:28:53,833
Yeah.
578
00:28:53,833 --> 00:28:58,208
Maybe they save that for part two.
If there was going to be a part two.
579
00:28:58,250 --> 00:28:59,666
They got rich.
580
00:28:59,666 --> 00:29:05,375
Yeah, I'm still rich.
581
00:29:05,458 --> 00:29:05,666
Yeah.
582
00:29:05,666 --> 00:29:10,458
McGriff is still in serving a life
sentence.
583
00:29:10,458 --> 00:29:13,791
There were other folks
584
00:29:13,791 --> 00:29:18,375
that he was hired to murder, apparently.
585
00:29:18,458 --> 00:29:21,458
So he was said to have
586
00:29:21,625 --> 00:29:23,375
had a hand in Jam Master Jay’s death.
587
00:29:23,375 --> 00:29:27,583
But I don't know if he.
588
00:29:27,791 --> 00:29:28,958
That was an allegation still.
589
00:29:28,958 --> 00:29:31,625
But there were other folks
that he was charged with murder.
590
00:29:31,625 --> 00:29:33,333
And federal authorities did accuse him
591
00:29:33,333 --> 00:29:37,083
in connection
with the attempted murder of 50 Cent.
592
00:29:37,166 --> 00:29:39,833
So and then he did
593
00:29:39,833 --> 00:29:44,125
have ties to Murder Inc, which was
594
00:29:44,208 --> 00:29:47,583
the crew that Ja Rule had run with.
595
00:29:47,666 --> 00:29:52,375
Majestic is based on his character.
596
00:29:52,458 --> 00:29:53,625
Interesting stuff.
597
00:29:53,625 --> 00:29:55,500
Learned a lot watching these films
598
00:29:55,500 --> 00:29:59,250
which as I I enjoyed doing this
with you guys Right on.
599
00:29:59,333 --> 00:30:02,875
Yeah. That’s what it's all about.
600
00:30:02,958 --> 00:30:05,875
So there were a couple
601
00:30:05,875 --> 00:30:09,541
couple familiar faces in this movie
602
00:30:09,625 --> 00:30:13,916
from movies that we’ve reviewed
603
00:30:14,000 --> 00:30:18,291
so our man Marc John Jefferies.
604
00:30:18,375 --> 00:30:23,250
Yes. Who played a young Marcus
605
00:30:23,333 --> 00:30:25,041
in this movie
606
00:30:25,041 --> 00:30:30,291
also played Lil Cease in Notorious. Yes.
607
00:30:30,375 --> 00:30:35,291
And he also played a young Dre
in Brown Sugar.
608
00:30:35,375 --> 00:30:37,666
Yes, that's right.
609
00:30:37,666 --> 00:30:39,541
I forgot about that. Yes.
610
00:30:39,541 --> 00:30:41,500
I was like,
I know this kid from somewhere.
611
00:30:41,500 --> 00:30:42,083
Yeah.
612
00:30:42,083 --> 00:30:45,375
I didn't look
deep enough into his filmography, but yes.
613
00:30:45,458 --> 00:30:48,333
Yeah, we have Omar Benson Miller,
614
00:30:48,333 --> 00:30:51,333
who played Keryl in Marcus’s crew,
615
00:30:51,333 --> 00:30:53,875
played Sol George in 8 Mile.
616
00:30:53,875 --> 00:30:57,916
Yup. B-Rabbit’s boys. Yup.
617
00:30:58,000 --> 00:30:58,416
Yeah.
618
00:30:58,416 --> 00:31:00,416
I was like wow look at that.
619
00:31:00,416 --> 00:31:02,875
And of course, you know,
we mentioned, you know, Terrence
620
00:31:02,875 --> 00:31:06,250
Howard playing Bama
621
00:31:06,291 --> 00:31:09,291
was our man DJay in Hustle and Flow.
622
00:31:09,333 --> 00:31:12,333
What else did I come across? Yes.
623
00:31:12,416 --> 00:31:15,916
Uncredited, an uncredited appearance
624
00:31:16,000 --> 00:31:19,500
by Mykelti Williamson.
625
00:31:19,583 --> 00:31:19,791
Oh right.
626
00:31:19,791 --> 00:31:26,041
Who plays Charlene’s
stepfather was Uncle George in ATL.
627
00:31:26,125 --> 00:31:27,416
Yes, that's right.
628
00:31:27,416 --> 00:31:31,333
Well, his most famous role would be Bubba
from Forrest Gump.
629
00:31:31,416 --> 00:31:38,666
Yes, of course. Yes.
630
00:31:38,750 --> 00:31:40,125
I think, who else did I catch?
631
00:31:40,125 --> 00:31:44,208
We've done one or two Bill
Duke movies before. yes.
632
00:31:44,291 --> 00:31:46,750
Bill Duke. Yeah. Levar. Yeah.
633
00:31:46,750 --> 00:31:47,583
Yes, yes, yes.
634
00:31:47,583 --> 00:31:52,791
Bill, He was the cop in Menace
635
00:31:52,791 --> 00:31:55,791
II Society.
636
00:31:55,916 --> 00:31:58,916
That actually had Caine
in the interrogation room.
637
00:31:59,083 --> 00:31:59,750
Oh that's right.
638
00:31:59,750 --> 00:32:00,666
You know you messed up, right?
639
00:32:00,666 --> 00:32:03,416
Yeah, that's
640
00:32:03,416 --> 00:32:05,583
right. Yes.
641
00:32:05,583 --> 00:32:08,875
He's so good.
642
00:32:08,958 --> 00:32:11,500
I use that one all the time.
643
00:32:11,500 --> 00:32:15,916
Let’s see.
644
00:32:16,000 --> 00:32:17,333
We got Leon.
645
00:32:17,333 --> 00:32:18,666
Oh yeah, Leon.
646
00:32:18,666 --> 00:32:21,041
Yeah, trying to think.
647
00:32:21,041 --> 00:32:24,166
Leon was in, what was Leon in that
we - Above the Rim for sure.
648
00:32:24,166 --> 00:32:26,500
Yeah. Above the Rim. Yes. Yeah.
649
00:32:26,541 --> 00:32:27,291
He was a baller.
650
00:32:27,291 --> 00:32:29,458
Yeah. Yes.
651
00:32:29,458 --> 00:32:31,208
Corduroy pants.
652
00:32:31,208 --> 00:32:32,833
That’s right. Corduroy pants.
653
00:32:32,833 --> 00:32:35,875
Looked like a fisherman,
looked like the Gorton's fisherman.
654
00:32:35,875 --> 00:32:38,583
Longshore fisherman draining threes
655
00:32:38,583 --> 00:32:40,583
coming off the bench.
656
00:32:40,583 --> 00:32:42,291
Instant offense.
657
00:32:42,291 --> 00:32:44,958
Yes, yes, yes, I forgot.
658
00:32:44,958 --> 00:32:47,750
How could I forget about that one?
But that was a good cast.
659
00:32:47,750 --> 00:32:51,333
A lot of familiar faces,
you had the great Viola Davis.
660
00:32:51,416 --> 00:32:52,791
Yes, that's right.
661
00:32:52,791 --> 00:32:54,958
Well, actually played Violet Greer.
662
00:32:54,958 --> 00:32:56,083
Yeah. Yeah.
663
00:32:56,083 --> 00:32:57,833
I mean, they didn't say her name, but.
664
00:32:57,833 --> 00:32:58,916
Violet Greer.
665
00:32:58,916 --> 00:33:02,500
Grandma, you know, and
666
00:33:02,583 --> 00:33:06,083
my man Sullivan Walker played Grandpa,
667
00:33:06,166 --> 00:33:09,166
who played one of my favorite Huxtable
668
00:33:09,208 --> 00:33:11,000
Cosby Show characters.
669
00:33:11,000 --> 00:33:11,750
I forgot his name.
670
00:33:11,750 --> 00:33:12,416
He was a doctor.
671
00:33:12,416 --> 00:33:15,083
I worked with Cliff Huxtable.
672
00:33:15,083 --> 00:33:18,083
He would come over play petanque
673
00:33:18,083 --> 00:33:20,625
in the backyard with him.
674
00:33:20,625 --> 00:33:23,625
I was like I remember him!
675
00:33:23,708 --> 00:33:25,333
You know Joy Bryant’s always a star.
676
00:33:25,333 --> 00:33:29,375
I mean, whatever’s she’s in.
677
00:33:29,458 --> 00:33:31,166
Majestic, Adewale
678
00:33:31,166 --> 00:33:35,666
Akinnouye-Agbaje, he's good too,
I've seen him in a bunch of things.
679
00:33:35,666 --> 00:33:36,666
He’s very good.
680
00:33:36,666 --> 00:33:40,625
A great actor Yeah and I like
681
00:33:40,708 --> 00:33:44,458
the way he's able to turn his accent on
and all these different roles is amazing
682
00:33:44,500 --> 00:33:47,458
because he didn't even have one
in this movie.
683
00:33:47,458 --> 00:33:50,791
It’s like wow. Yep.
684
00:33:50,875 --> 00:33:51,708
Yeah.
685
00:33:51,708 --> 00:33:54,250
He's he's good. He's really good.
686
00:33:54,250 --> 00:33:56,458
That was it was
it was a good cast, everybody.
687
00:33:56,458 --> 00:33:57,958
I mean,
688
00:33:57,958 --> 00:33:58,708
you know, I don't think there's
689
00:33:58,708 --> 00:34:02,458
a cinematic masterpiece,
but it was very entertaining to watch.
690
00:34:02,541 --> 00:34:04,791
And I think everyone who performed
691
00:34:04,791 --> 00:34:08,166
a pretty good job.
692
00:34:08,250 --> 00:34:08,541
Yeah.
693
00:34:08,541 --> 00:34:10,666
Directed by Jim Sheridan, who also did
694
00:34:10,666 --> 00:34:12,875
like Daniel Day-Lewis movies
like My Left Foot,
695
00:34:12,875 --> 00:34:15,083
In the Name of the Father,
like big deal movies.
696
00:34:15,083 --> 00:34:19,375
And he's got a 50 Cent movie.
697
00:34:19,458 --> 00:34:21,583
Yeah. And he
698
00:34:21,666 --> 00:34:23,666
I was reading that
699
00:34:23,666 --> 00:34:27,833
they originally hired an acting coach
for 50 Cent because he had never acted.
700
00:34:27,833 --> 00:34:29,583
And then
701
00:34:29,583 --> 00:34:32,000
they said, you know,
we don't need you anymore.
702
00:34:32,000 --> 00:34:33,333
I think he's good.
703
00:34:33,333 --> 00:34:36,333
He's got that charisma and
704
00:34:36,375 --> 00:34:38,416
Jim Sheridan said,
705
00:34:38,416 --> 00:34:39,791
If you don't look good in this,
this is my fault.
706
00:34:39,791 --> 00:34:41,000
I didn't direct you well enough.
707
00:34:41,000 --> 00:34:42,875
He just took it
708
00:34:42,875 --> 00:34:45,208
unto himself
to make sure it was successful.
709
00:34:45,208 --> 00:34:46,791
They did the same.
710
00:34:46,791 --> 00:34:50,166
I think they should have kept
their acting coach.
711
00:34:50,250 --> 00:34:51,208
I mean, he's okay.
712
00:34:51,208 --> 00:34:53,458
Yeah, okay. Yeah, he's.
713
00:34:53,458 --> 00:34:57,875
But there was some scenes where I thought,
ah, he
714
00:34:57,958 --> 00:34:59,166
it just didn't work.
715
00:34:59,166 --> 00:35:03,541
And I think that some of my criticisms of
the movie is like
716
00:35:03,625 --> 00:35:07,333
when you see Terrence Howard,
like just chew up scenes
717
00:35:07,416 --> 00:35:10,458
and he doesn't really show up
until the end, like he's in the beginning,
718
00:35:10,458 --> 00:35:14,041
but then he doesn't really show up
until near the end. It's like,
719
00:35:14,125 --> 00:35:16,416
this is what
720
00:35:16,416 --> 00:35:19,166
skilled, you know, experienced actors
could do.
721
00:35:19,166 --> 00:35:20,166
And I even read that.
722
00:35:20,166 --> 00:35:23,500
Sam Jackson, Samuel L Jackson,
723
00:35:23,583 --> 00:35:26,500
they asked him to be in this movie
and he wouldn't do it because he was
724
00:35:26,500 --> 00:35:31,375
afraid of being in a film with someone
who was inexperienced like that.
725
00:35:31,458 --> 00:35:34,958
Then they were in a movie later on, but.
726
00:35:35,000 --> 00:35:37,041
There were also protests about this film,
I think
727
00:35:37,041 --> 00:35:40,125
because they some people thought
it glorified the violent crime.
728
00:35:40,125 --> 00:35:42,041
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
729
00:35:42,041 --> 00:35:45,041
I don’t think it glorified it at all.
730
00:35:45,125 --> 00:35:46,666
Yeah. I don't think it did. Yeah.
731
00:35:46,666 --> 00:35:51,541
That was probably unjustified
but there were protests nonetheless.
732
00:35:51,625 --> 00:35:54,041
Yeah. People just get,
733
00:35:54,041 --> 00:35:55,916
let's say up in arms about it, but.
734
00:35:55,916 --> 00:35:58,166
Yeah, I mean that movies have a rating
for a reason, right?
735
00:35:58,166 --> 00:35:59,833
And rated R for violence.
736
00:35:59,833 --> 00:36:01,375
You understand what you're getting into.
737
00:36:01,375 --> 00:36:04,375
And it was pretty violent.
738
00:36:04,375 --> 00:36:06,000
Definitely violent. So.
739
00:36:06,000 --> 00:36:10,916
So one thing about the
movie that I wasn’t, was it
740
00:36:11,000 --> 00:36:12,916
one, I won’t say I didn't like it,
741
00:36:12,916 --> 00:36:16,750
but I think it moved a little too quickly.
742
00:36:16,791 --> 00:36:19,125
Was the end,
743
00:36:19,125 --> 00:36:20,000
I think. Yeah.
744
00:36:20,000 --> 00:36:23,416
The way the movie ended was it just,
I think, kind of
745
00:36:23,416 --> 00:36:26,375
rushed through a little bit. Yeah.
So you see this?
746
00:36:26,375 --> 00:36:27,750
I would agree.
747
00:36:27,750 --> 00:36:30,958
Where they were at Pelham Hall,
748
00:36:31,041 --> 00:36:34,208
you know, ready to perform
and Majestic walks
749
00:36:34,208 --> 00:36:39,458
in, wants to talk with him
like the whole, they tussle
750
00:36:39,541 --> 00:36:42,291
and you know Marcus gets the upper hand
751
00:36:42,291 --> 00:36:46,666
and as he's walking out he runs behind
752
00:36:46,750 --> 00:36:49,750
him and Bama shoots him
and I was like wow, that's it?
753
00:36:49,958 --> 00:36:51,666
Yeah. Yeah.
754
00:36:51,666 --> 00:36:52,791
And he walks out on stage,
755
00:36:52,791 --> 00:36:57,000
and just takes off his bulletproof
vest, like, All right.
756
00:36:57,083 --> 00:36:59,250
Like, I don't know if I don't know
757
00:36:59,250 --> 00:37:02,250
if I believe that would happen like that,
you know.
758
00:37:02,333 --> 00:37:07,291
You know, because alright
look at Majestic, he wasn't by himself,
759
00:37:07,375 --> 00:37:07,916
you know?
760
00:37:07,916 --> 00:37:13,375
And so he walks in with all of these
with his entourage.
761
00:37:13,458 --> 00:37:15,666
He gets shot and that’s it like nobody.
762
00:37:15,666 --> 00:37:16,708
Yeah. Nothing.
763
00:37:16,708 --> 00:37:17,833
No like.
764
00:37:17,833 --> 00:37:18,375
Not even a.
765
00:37:18,375 --> 00:37:21,291
Peep No knock down, drag out.
766
00:37:21,291 --> 00:37:22,083
Not even an.
767
00:37:22,083 --> 00:37:24,083
Entire battle royale.
768
00:37:24,083 --> 00:37:24,750
Yeah.
769
00:37:24,750 --> 00:37:26,333
Yeah. No, no, no.
770
00:37:26,333 --> 00:37:28,708
Nobody thought of the punch or nothing.
771
00:37:28,708 --> 00:37:30,875
Everyone
just kind of stood around and watched.
772
00:37:30,875 --> 00:37:34,666
Or was it
that Majestic was that bad of a boss
773
00:37:34,666 --> 00:37:36,291
that people just didn't care about him?
774
00:37:36,291 --> 00:37:38,500
They were like, Yeah,
You know what, he deserved it.
775
00:37:38,500 --> 00:37:40,291
They turned on him.
776
00:37:40,291 --> 00:37:41,333
Yeah.
777
00:37:41,333 --> 00:37:41,750
Yeah.
778
00:37:41,750 --> 00:37:44,333
Got what was coming to him like.
779
00:37:44,333 --> 00:37:46,333
What do you mean “we”?
780
00:37:46,333 --> 00:37:48,208
We saw what he did to Odell.
781
00:37:48,208 --> 00:37:49,875
Yeah. Yeah.
782
00:37:49,875 --> 00:37:52,333
Right. Yeah. Yeah.
783
00:37:52,333 --> 00:37:55,125
He could come turn on us too. Yeah,
it was Yeah.
784
00:37:55,125 --> 00:37:58,125
That was, you know, one of the criticisms
I read about this movie.
785
00:37:58,166 --> 00:37:59,666
It does seem uneven.
786
00:37:59,666 --> 00:38:02,166
Like sometimes it goes too slow
and sometimes it goes too fast.
787
00:38:02,166 --> 00:38:04,625
And so, yeah,
788
00:38:04,708 --> 00:38:06,625
could I could see that I kind of agree.
789
00:38:06,625 --> 00:38:09,625
It's sort of
just fast forwards to the end.
790
00:38:09,666 --> 00:38:11,291
Now he's a performer.
791
00:38:11,291 --> 00:38:13,875
Yeah. He's out onstage like he's,
792
00:38:13,875 --> 00:38:15,500
you know, he almost got killed.
793
00:38:15,500 --> 00:38:17,208
And now you’re performing.
794
00:38:17,208 --> 00:38:18,500
Just like.
795
00:38:18,500 --> 00:38:23,791
Clean up on aisle five on that.
796
00:38:23,875 --> 00:38:24,833
Remove this please.
797
00:38:24,833 --> 00:38:27,833
Really just killed The biggest guy
in the neighborhood.
798
00:38:27,958 --> 00:38:30,000
Yeah.
799
00:38:30,000 --> 00:38:31,458
What's going to happen now?
800
00:38:31,458 --> 00:38:34,041
You're going to, like, that's
definitely not the time to be walking out
801
00:38:34,041 --> 00:38:37,916
without a vest on because you don't know
what's going to happen.
802
00:38:38,000 --> 00:38:38,708
Okay?
803
00:38:38,708 --> 00:38:42,083
You know, you
804
00:38:42,166 --> 00:38:43,583
interesting choices.
805
00:38:43,583 --> 00:38:44,833
Yeah, but other than that.
806
00:38:44,833 --> 00:38:48,500
Other than that, I was like,
okay, some of the other stuff, regardless
807
00:38:48,500 --> 00:38:49,000
of how it went down
808
00:38:49,000 --> 00:38:53,125
that I kind of could believe it either way
like Yeah, I guess that Could kind of.
809
00:38:53,125 --> 00:38:54,958
happen. Yeah, I guess. that could happen.
810
00:38:54,958 --> 00:38:57,500
When I saw that part, I was like,
I don’t know.
811
00:38:57,500 --> 00:39:01,750
Yeah. I don't know about that. That
812
00:39:01,833 --> 00:39:02,583
I had a similar
813
00:39:02,583 --> 00:39:05,666
criticism, if you recall, Menace
II Society’s ending.
814
00:39:05,666 --> 00:39:07,958
So much happened
in the last like 10 minutes.
815
00:39:07,958 --> 00:39:09,416
It was like they were tying up loose ends.
816
00:39:09,416 --> 00:39:13,583
It's like that this fight scene
and this retaliation and that
817
00:39:13,666 --> 00:39:18,583
you know everything comes to a head
like so quickly after.
818
00:39:18,666 --> 00:39:22,625
It's like it's sometimes
819
00:39:22,708 --> 00:39:25,166
they try to fit scenes to the script
820
00:39:25,166 --> 00:39:28,750
and it's a little uneven, like you said.
821
00:39:28,833 --> 00:39:31,416
Overall I definitely.
822
00:39:31,416 --> 00:39:34,416
I'll say this, I refused when I was,
when this movie came out.
823
00:39:34,416 --> 00:39:36,416
I refused to watch it.
824
00:39:36,416 --> 00:39:38,375
I was yeah, yeah.
825
00:39:38,375 --> 00:39:40,708
I have no desire to watch it
826
00:39:40,708 --> 00:39:43,666
because at the time he was trolling
everybody and I was like,
827
00:39:43,666 --> 00:39:47,125
Yeah, I’m good.
828
00:39:47,208 --> 00:39:48,625
I don't need to hear about you
getting shot,
829
00:39:48,625 --> 00:39:51,500
but I don't even see it on film
either. Yeah.
830
00:39:51,500 --> 00:39:53,083
But after watching this,
831
00:39:53,083 --> 00:39:57,375
I would definitely say that I probably
should have watched it when it came out
832
00:39:57,458 --> 00:40:01,125
and I definitely enjoyed it
more than I thought I would
833
00:40:01,208 --> 00:40:04,125
and I probably will watch it again.
834
00:40:04,125 --> 00:40:07,458
Yeah, so we go do our ratings then.
835
00:40:07,458 --> 00:40:12,458
So you would say
bring that funky flick back
836
00:40:12,541 --> 00:40:15,208
or leave it in the vault?
837
00:40:15,208 --> 00:40:15,833
Yeah.
838
00:40:15,833 --> 00:40:17,500
Bring that funky flick back,
because I definitely
839
00:40:17,500 --> 00:40:20,000
there was aspects of it
that I definitely found entertaining
840
00:40:20,000 --> 00:40:22,416
and like this kind of
I like these kind of movies
841
00:40:22,416 --> 00:40:26,291
for some odd reason, even though
I have no desire to join that lifestyle
842
00:40:26,375 --> 00:40:28,916
or be out there like that,
I just like watching them.
843
00:40:28,916 --> 00:40:30,500
I don't know why.
844
00:40:30,500 --> 00:40:32,750
But easier to watch them
than actually be in them.
845
00:40:32,750 --> 00:40:34,208
Yeah.
846
00:40:34,208 --> 00:40:35,291
How about you, DynoWright?
847
00:40:35,291 --> 00:40:38,208
Bring that funky flick back
or leave it in the vault?
848
00:40:38,208 --> 00:40:40,166
This was a tough one.
849
00:40:40,166 --> 00:40:41,666
You know, I'm right on the edge.
850
00:40:41,666 --> 00:40:44,125
And as. As flawed.
851
00:40:44,125 --> 00:40:49,083
And as much as I thought the story wasn't
all that compelling,
852
00:40:49,166 --> 00:40:52,250
I'm going to bring this funky flick back
because the performances are really good.
853
00:40:52,250 --> 00:40:55,916
Even 50 Cent in
some spots was was really good.
854
00:40:56,000 --> 00:41:01,375
I mean, he really did cry in the one scene
and you know that's that's good acting,
855
00:41:01,458 --> 00:41:03,625
cry on demand.
856
00:41:03,625 --> 00:41:07,416
They're cutting onions.
857
00:41:07,500 --> 00:41:10,250
Yes. I will also bring
that funky flick back
858
00:41:10,250 --> 00:41:14,250
just because it is
859
00:41:14,333 --> 00:41:17,541
the origin story of 50 Cent
you know a rags to riches story.
860
00:41:17,750 --> 00:41:21,416
And even though it's not 100%
autobiographical, it is his.
861
00:41:21,416 --> 00:41:25,333
It is really his story
and his acting debut.
862
00:41:25,416 --> 00:41:28,583
Yeah, not without his flaws,
but bring it back.
863
00:41:28,583 --> 00:41:30,666
It's something that
864
00:41:30,666 --> 00:41:34,416
true hip hop heads should see.
865
00:41:34,500 --> 00:41:38,541
The 50 cent movie is 75% accurate.
866
00:41:38,625 --> 00:41:53,750
That's right.
867
00:41:53,833 --> 00:41:55,666
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868
00:41:55,666 --> 00:41:59,541
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869
00:41:59,625 --> 00:42:03,750
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870
00:42:03,833 --> 00:42:05,500
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871
00:42:05,500 --> 00:42:17,250
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872
00:42:17,333 --> 00:42:18,541
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873
00:42:18,541 --> 00:42:21,541
Thanks for tuning in.
874
00:42:21,541 --> 00:42:26,333
And remember, don't hate articulate.
875
00:42:26,416 --> 00:42:28,791
Articulate,
876
00:42:28,791 --> 00:42:31,708
don't slow your speech
unless you have a bullet in your tongue.
877
00:42:31,708 --> 00:42:34,458
Bullet fragments in the tongue.
878
00:42:34,541 --> 00:42:35,875
You don't have fragments in your tongue?
879
00:42:35,875 --> 00:42:39,125
No slurring. Yeah.
880
00:42:39,208 --> 00:42:39,791
Don’t mumblecore this!
881
00:42:39,791 --> 00:42:42,500
This,
882
00:42:42,500 --> 00:42:43,791
you know, 50 Cent’s
883
00:42:43,791 --> 00:42:47,666
name is actually from a gangster.
884
00:42:47,750 --> 00:42:50,708
Yeah. Right. Named Kelvin Martin.
885
00:42:50,708 --> 00:42:54,083
I didn't know that until I did
some additional research on this one.
886
00:42:54,166 --> 00:42:55,916
Same. Yeah, I like the.
887
00:42:55,916 --> 00:42:58,916
I like the idea.
It's a metaphor for change.
888
00:42:59,000 --> 00:42:59,833
Yeah, that's not bad.