Make sure that you don't give up unnecessarily equity in
Speaker:your business. There might be people out there who are trying to pry into
Speaker:your business and take equity for something like building a website. Definitely
Speaker:don't do that. A client of mine was offered to go into a
Speaker:mastermind of other people who were already selling on Amazon.
Speaker:I instructed her to start up an Amazon account
Speaker:in USA. She said, my coach has said to open up a
Speaker:USA account. And they looked at her in horror. Oh my God, why
Speaker:would you start an Amazon account in USA? Clients will ask
Speaker:their friends and family, what do you think of this product? And they'll also,
Speaker:wow, it's amazing, you're so good. You won't be able
Speaker:to test the product until you get it into the market. You might do a
Speaker:Facebook poll, you might do an Instagram poll, you might do a friends and family
Speaker:poll. But what I say to people though is, if it's friends and family, ask
Speaker:them. I'm Matthew Fraser, and this is
Speaker:Amazon Ecom Secrets. I'll be sharing with you the secrets
Speaker:that helped me go from millions in debt to an eight-figure
Speaker:entrepreneur. If you're ready to escape the nine-to-five and live life
Speaker:on your terms, let me show you the way. Hey
Speaker:guys, Matthew Fraser here. Welcome to today's podcast. And
Speaker:in this podcast, I'd like to talk to you more about really things
Speaker:that you want to avoid, the pitfalls when
Speaker:you're starting out in your business. And as a seasoned seller
Speaker:like myself now having been in this business for about eight years online
Speaker:and actually in business in whole, probably 25 plus years. I've
Speaker:got a lot of experience and a lot of insight into
Speaker:the things that people struggle with, particularly in
Speaker:their startups or their products when launching into places
Speaker:like Amazon. So as
Speaker:you know, I'm doing a mentorship program, and
Speaker:I've been doing that for a number of months now, having transitioned into
Speaker:this space, because I really saw a need where I could give back. I
Speaker:could give back because of the experience that I have. And one of the things I hate seeing
Speaker:is people who Who fail and
Speaker:who can't get ahead? I want people to succeed
Speaker:and so what I want to share with you today is some of those key lessons
Speaker:Where where it will help you get through your journey? There's
Speaker:two places When you're starting out brand new, there's really
Speaker:two places that I see where are the optimal time for
Speaker:quitting or failing. The first time is
Speaker:going to be during the Amazon training program.
Speaker:So nine times out of 10 people will buy an Amazon training
Speaker:course. They go into it with good intentions. And
Speaker:it's exactly the same process that I took. I started with an Amazon training program myself.
Speaker:Um, but what happens is during that, that journey is it
Speaker:becomes just complete overwhelmed, right? There's just so
Speaker:much information and so many things that you've got to have to learn how to do
Speaker:from not just setting up your. Amazon account.
Speaker:And even in the Amazon account process, it can be really, really daunting because it's
Speaker:like, what legal entity do I use? How do I set up all the international
Speaker:bank accounts and, um, and all the, you know, the U S
Speaker:government forms, what buttons do I press that in itself can be a minefield. And
Speaker:then you move into the product selection and
Speaker:it's like, where do I start with that? And so one
Speaker:thing that I will say is that you need to break it down into bite sizes
Speaker:so that you don't get overwhelmed on. I
Speaker:was talking to a lady just recently, and she's been
Speaker:in her training program for years and
Speaker:years. And I said, well, what's taking so long? And it
Speaker:was, look, I just didn't have the time. And basically
Speaker:what she was saying is she didn't have the time because she
Speaker:didn't know what steps to take for next. And that's why it's really important
Speaker:to have the knowledge of what steps to take next, hence through a
Speaker:mentor or a coach. But this is
Speaker:her fundamental mistake when she actually went ahead. She
Speaker:designed a product that was completely saturated
Speaker:in the marketplace, right? So let's just say she came
Speaker:up with yoga mat. And there, if you go to Amazon and
Speaker:type in yoga mat, you will find there is like hundreds of pages of
Speaker:yoga mats. And her great idea was
Speaker:that it was like a unique color, okay?
Speaker:And that unique color just turns out is not going to cut it.
Speaker:in the Amazon marketplace. So automatically,
Speaker:you're going to fail. Now, unfortunately, when
Speaker:she came to me, she had already put through her first
Speaker:order to the manufacturer. Now, we're talking an order in
Speaker:the vicinity of $30,000. So keep that in
Speaker:mind. That's your very first product. She's never launched anything
Speaker:online ever, and she's just jumping straight into a
Speaker:$30,000 product. And I said, oh,
Speaker:once I actually had a look at it, the options I gave to her was this.
Speaker:One, pull out now and lose your deposit of
Speaker:$8,000. That ultimately would have been cheaper
Speaker:because if she proceeds through option number two, which
Speaker:she goes ahead, it would ultimately cost her in the vicinity of
Speaker:$50,000. By the time you've paid for $30,000 worth of stock, then
Speaker:you're talking shipping, Then it was she wanted to build
Speaker:out a website as well, you got to hire someone to do that, and
Speaker:the list goes on. So we're talking in the whole for $50,000 of
Speaker:a product that really wasn't going to sell. Very,
Speaker:very difficult to make the money back. Now, ultimately,
Speaker:my client decided not to
Speaker:proceed because I gave her the right advice. It was going to be cheaper to
Speaker:forego the $8,000. In
Speaker:that too, the lesson that she needs to learn, and
Speaker:I would express this to you as well, is that you've got to have the
Speaker:market validation, what I call the product market fit, and
Speaker:that's making sure that when you come up with this amazing product,
Speaker:or even if it's like a yoga mat and you're just slightly doing a differentiation, are
Speaker:people going to buy that product? And
Speaker:the way to go about this is through actual
Speaker:testing. You won't be able to test the product until you get it into the market. But
Speaker:there's some other things you can do around the edges. You might
Speaker:do a Facebook poll. You might do an Instagram poll.
Speaker:You might do a friends and family poll. But what I say to people, though, is if
Speaker:it's friends and family, ask them for the money. Go
Speaker:to them and say, well I'm doing pre-orders on this product, you
Speaker:give me the $50 today and you will be first in line to
Speaker:get my XYZ product. And that will tell you
Speaker:if someone is willing to hand over their money. Because I've seen
Speaker:this so many times where clients will
Speaker:ask their friends and family What do
Speaker:you think of this product? And I can guarantee you, nobody wants to
Speaker:be the bearer of bad news. Everyone wants to talk it up. And so you'll
Speaker:go to them and say, look, I've invented this amazing product. I've made this
Speaker:amazing yoga mat. And I'm selling
Speaker:it for $50. What do you think? And they'll all say, wow, it's
Speaker:amazing. You're so good. Wow, this is such a great
Speaker:journey you're on. And you're going to change your life. And what an incredible
Speaker:product. And that's when I say to them, well, go back to those
Speaker:very same people and ask for the money. Now, you
Speaker:find that they don't want to hand over the money, that's going to be your first red flag,
Speaker:right? Because if it was so amazing and they really wanted to support you
Speaker:and your business, your new business to success, they would
Speaker:hand over the cash. So that is the first thing. The
Speaker:other thing you can do, let's say you've been through that process and you're
Speaker:thinking, okay, they kind of like it, but you don't really
Speaker:know until you take it to the proper market. So this
Speaker:comes down to MOQs, right? What is MOQ? Minimum
Speaker:Order Quantity. Some people get into this business
Speaker:and they get railroaded by the manufacturer. So this is what happens. You've
Speaker:come up with your unique yoga mat. You haven't
Speaker:tested it in the marketplace yet, but you talk
Speaker:to the manufacturer and they say, in order to
Speaker:do this particular yoga mat, you're going to need to buy 10,000 units
Speaker:as a minimum. And we'll give it to you for, you know, let's say $4 each.
Speaker:Now, the problem is that you haven't tested it.
Speaker:So all of a sudden, if you go ahead with that, you're going to have 10,000 units
Speaker:in the marketplace, of which you now need to store somewhere, and
Speaker:storage costs money, and you don't even know if it's going to
Speaker:sell. Because what you're taught in a
Speaker:lot of these Amazon training programs is to get
Speaker:the price down as much as possible. And
Speaker:that sometimes is not in your favor, right? So the
Speaker:Chinese, for example, manufacturer might be thinking that you
Speaker:want to get the price down because probably by this time you've negotiated down
Speaker:to $4. and you're not willing to go any
Speaker:higher. But here's the trick. Go back to the
Speaker:manufacturer and say, look, I don't want to get 10,000 units. I'm testing the
Speaker:market. I want, let's say, even 100 units.
Speaker:Well, the manufacturer is going to say, I can't do 100 units. But
Speaker:he's only saying, this is the loss in translation part, He's
Speaker:only saying, I can't do 100 units if I'm going to charge
Speaker:you $4, OK? But you'll say,
Speaker:well, what price is for 100? How much per unit?
Speaker:Now, he might say, well, it's $10 per unit, right?
Speaker:So he can do it, but he's just going to charge you a higher price. In
Speaker:the beginning, your goal is not to make money. Your
Speaker:goal is to test the product in the marketplace. And
Speaker:even if you have to pay $10 a unit, and even if you break even,
Speaker:and even if you kind of don't really break even and you come out at a
Speaker:loss, at least you know whether that product was going to be a fit.
Speaker:in the marketplace. So let's say, let's walk this out practically.
Speaker:You've bought your 100 units, you've paid $10 a unit, it's now
Speaker:cost you $1,000 only plus shipping. You put them into the
Speaker:marketplace, you do all your amazing pitches and you optimize
Speaker:the listing, And then you wait and see, do people want
Speaker:to buy this product for whatever the price point is, $30 or
Speaker:$50? If they do, you now know you're onto a
Speaker:winning product. You can now go back to your manufacturer and
Speaker:then start talking how much for 1,000 units, how much for
Speaker:5,000 units. And that's going to be based on what you're comfortable with moving
Speaker:forward within that marketplace. So that is how. You can
Speaker:validate your product without going completely bankrupt.
Speaker:And remember, the first scenario was 10,000 units. You could have spent
Speaker:$40,000 on units, and maybe they didn't
Speaker:work out. You would have lost all your money. So the other thing to think about when
Speaker:going into the market is profit margins. Now,
Speaker:it's not just profit margin, it's actually also how much you
Speaker:should sell a particular product for. I made this very
Speaker:same mistake. I made the MOQ mistake, and I
Speaker:also made the profit margin mistake, and that is that my
Speaker:product and this we're talking about the chamois if you want to know more about the chamois go all the way back
Speaker:to uh the very first episode where i'd go a little bit deeper in the chamois but
Speaker:the chamois was costing me about a dollar fifty and
Speaker:i was able to sell that for about fifteen ten
Speaker:to fifteen dollars okay now the problem was i
Speaker:was thinking wow dollar fifty how cheap is that i could just buy a
Speaker:bazillion of these and look at all the margin between dollar fifty and fifteen dollars
Speaker:but what i didn't take into account was the
Speaker:uh the complete the Amazon fees, and
Speaker:the biggest one I didn't take into account was how much money I was
Speaker:gonna need to spend on advertising. Because although the product's
Speaker:actually in Amazon, you still need eyeballs on
Speaker:your product. And I can tell you when you're in the car chamois
Speaker:niche, you're not gonna, on day one, you're not gonna be on the first
Speaker:page. So you're not gonna type in car chamois and you're gonna be just like smack bang
Speaker:ready for people to buy. You're gonna be pages and pages behind.
Speaker:So the only way for you to get to the front page at
Speaker:that point is by paying for advertising and advertising costs
Speaker:money. And you can imagine if you've got after Amazon
Speaker:fees, let's say about $10, you've only now got about $8.50, let's
Speaker:say $8 of actual gross profit
Speaker:to spend now on advertising. And I can tell you what, when
Speaker:someone's pressing the button on your ad in Amazon, it
Speaker:could be anywhere from up to like $2 or $3 a click. So
Speaker:you can imagine like in three clicks, all your money is gone and
Speaker:you might even make a sale, but you're now negative. Okay. So
Speaker:that's why you've got to think about this profit margin. Now I would suggest, here's
Speaker:the trick. make sure that you've got at least, I
Speaker:like to have cost of goods times by
Speaker:at least three. So if you're buying it for $10 landed,
Speaker:I wanna be selling it for at least $30. And I also
Speaker:wanna have a product in the market that's at least $30 retail,
Speaker:okay? Because as you can imagine, if I exaggerate this out a little bit,
Speaker:let's say you're selling a product for $100, But it's
Speaker:only costing you $35 minus some
Speaker:fees. You're probably going to have about $50 to spend on
Speaker:pay-per-click, right? So even if they click three
Speaker:times and it's now $9, in the first scenario, we lost all
Speaker:our money. In this scenario, we've got way more fat in
Speaker:the product, and we've now got some profit margin. left
Speaker:over, which means money in your pocket, which means you can continue on making more
Speaker:sales rather than going backwards. So guys, let's dive a little bit deeper into
Speaker:a particular scenario that has just come across my desk
Speaker:recently. And it was a client of mine who's new to the
Speaker:e-commerce space, right? But he's a great inventor and he
Speaker:has this amazing product. And you know what? Over my many,
Speaker:many years of being in this space, I have I've been privy
Speaker:to hundreds and hundreds of products, right? There's
Speaker:so many products that I've actually seen, I can't even remember them all. And there's so
Speaker:many inventors that I've met that I can't remember all of them too. But
Speaker:there's one thing that stands out with all inventors is that
Speaker:they're good at inventing a product,
Speaker:but sometimes they're not good at product market fit. What
Speaker:does that mean? It means they're great at their own idea and
Speaker:thinking it's amazing, but they don't take the next step of
Speaker:testing it out in the marketplace. Generally speaking, they'll
Speaker:ask their family and friends, which give them a big thumbs up and you should proceed with
Speaker:it. but they don't actually test it in the market and will someone buy
Speaker:it? Now, there's a particular story that
Speaker:comes to mind just, as I said, just the other day. And
Speaker:the gentleman rang me up and he said, Matthew, I've got a gentleman who's willing
Speaker:to give me a, he's willing to
Speaker:do a service in return for some
Speaker:equity in the business. Okay. And the person who
Speaker:was willing to do the service was actually
Speaker:a website designer. Okay. So the gentleman receives
Speaker:an email from the website designer and says, Hey Jimmy, I'm
Speaker:willing to do a free website for you, but I want 10% of your business.
Speaker:Now, keep in mind, this business hasn't launched yet, right?
Speaker:So there's no sales. It's just the idea at the moment. But
Speaker:the website designer thinks it's a good idea and is
Speaker:kind of on the train of thinking there's going to be a lot of money here. So
Speaker:I'll do my service for free if you give me 10% equity.
Speaker:So as this gentleman's mentor, he
Speaker:rang me and said, look, Matthew, this is the scenario. What do you think? And
Speaker:I said, well, first of all, what does your gut tell you? I like to work
Speaker:on gut. And he said, well, I don't really think it's going to
Speaker:work because I don't really want to have someone else. I don't want
Speaker:to have a partner. Okay. And I want to be responsible for somebody else.
Speaker:I said, yes. And the other thing that you should be thinking about,
Speaker:I said to him was the fact that There are so
Speaker:many website designers out there. It's not like this guy
Speaker:was unique to his market, right?
Speaker:And by giving up 10%, let's just say that
Speaker:in the future, this guy's business was gonna be worth $5 million. That
Speaker:means you're ultimately going to end up paying this guy 10%, which
Speaker:will be $500,000. So you might have saved maybe $10,000 in
Speaker:the beginning by not having him do a website, But
Speaker:at a sale in the future with a valuation of 5 million, you're
Speaker:now going to have to pay this website guy $500,000. Would you
Speaker:be totally crazy? Now, the thing to think about
Speaker:also in this scenario is that the owner of the product didn't
Speaker:need the money. So he didn't have to
Speaker:get this website designer to do it for free. He was happy to pay the website
Speaker:designer and simply finish the transaction. So ultimately, that
Speaker:was the advice I gave to him. So it really was
Speaker:like a saving for him of potentially $500,000 by
Speaker:just making a phone call to me and running through those scenarios. And
Speaker:for him, I think... I know for a fact that
Speaker:it was things that he hadn't even considered. And he did say to
Speaker:me, Matt, if I hadn't have spoken to you, I actually probably
Speaker:would have gone ahead with that deal. And I think that would have been a big mistake. Warning,
Speaker:warning. This is for all business owners. Make
Speaker:sure that you don't give up unnecessarily equity in your
Speaker:business. There might be people out there who are trying to pry into
Speaker:your business and take equity for something like building a
Speaker:website. Definitely don't do that. The website cost
Speaker:is only $10,000 but ultimately you could be giving away millions
Speaker:of dollars on a potential sale in the future. Big, big
Speaker:mistake. One of the other big issues I come across all the time is
Speaker:mindset. And what do I mean by that? I mean self-belief
Speaker:limiting mindset, right? And I'll just tell you a story. I
Speaker:was at a summit recently and I walked through this summit and
Speaker:you know, I'm basically one of the biggest sellers in the room. So people
Speaker:are coming to me, you know, giving me their story and
Speaker:I ask them their story. And quite often I say, you know, where are
Speaker:you up to in your Amazon journey? And surprisingly, there
Speaker:was just a lot of people in this room that had been in
Speaker:like an Amazon training program for like years and years and
Speaker:years. I'm talking like five years who hadn't even launched yet. And
Speaker:it got me thinking about Why haven't they launched by now? Because when
Speaker:I launched, it took me one year from when I started the program to
Speaker:when I actually launched my very first product. So one whole year,
Speaker:which I thought at the time was actually really slow. But
Speaker:now I'm meeting all these people who are taking like half a
Speaker:decade to even think about launching a product. And
Speaker:there was one story that really stood out. And I was talking
Speaker:to her about what I do for my clients. And I said, what
Speaker:I do is I get them to start their Amazon account straight
Speaker:away, meaning we get the ID checks done, we
Speaker:get the account details put in, all validated and
Speaker:ready to go. And you know what she said to me? Oh no,
Speaker:I wouldn't do that because you don't even have a product to sell
Speaker:yet and it's costing you like $30 a month. And
Speaker:I looked at her and I thought, oh my God, that's the reason. She's
Speaker:putting a ceiling on moving forward with her product
Speaker:ideas because she doesn't want to spend $30 a
Speaker:month. And by not spending the $30 a month,
Speaker:you can't have the Amazon account. If you can't have the Amazon account, you can't send
Speaker:your first product in. So that is a big mistake and
Speaker:something you do not want to get into. You do not want to surround yourself
Speaker:with other people who are also thinking the same thing. Because I also see
Speaker:that too. It's getting into like a mastermind with other
Speaker:people in the room. Here's the next story. Client of
Speaker:mine was offered to go into a mastermind of other people
Speaker:who were already selling on Amazon. Now, at face value, you
Speaker:think, this is brilliant. I'm new. These people are already selling
Speaker:on Amazon, so I'm going to get so much value here. But here was
Speaker:the problem. The person going into the mastermind was
Speaker:my client and I had requested, I instructed her
Speaker:to start up an Amazon account in USA. And
Speaker:so you're going to say to me, why USA as opposed to Australia if
Speaker:you're living in Australia? And it's because USA seems
Speaker:like the Mount Everest. If you're living in Australia, the easy
Speaker:path is, oh, I'm just going to start up an Amazon account in
Speaker:Australia for starters. But what happens ultimately is
Speaker:you never then get to where the big money is, which is in USA.
Speaker:So she was going into this mastermind. She said, my
Speaker:coach or mentor, being me, has said to open up
Speaker:a USA account. And they looked at her in horror. Oh my
Speaker:god, I wouldn't be opening. Why would you start an Amazon account in USA?
Speaker:Wouldn't you start in Australia? And this just goes
Speaker:back to, again, the self-limiting belief.
Speaker:They were all thinking that the Amazon USA platform
Speaker:was just way too hard. And therefore, they just didn't take
Speaker:the steps to go there. But that's where the money is. And that's where you
Speaker:should go to. There's an old saying right now in the Amazon space,
Speaker:which is that if you can't make it in Amazon or you can't make
Speaker:it in a business, then you fail and you go and teach. And
Speaker:this was one of the things when I started thinking about my mentoring program
Speaker:that, I want to be that person who's not just mentoring people,
Speaker:but I'm actually in this in the trenches as
Speaker:well. Like currently right now, I still sell on Amazon across
Speaker:multiple platforms, across multiple countries, plus Shopify
Speaker:in multiple countries, including Japan, which is which
Speaker:is certainly like that is literally Mount Everest getting into Japan. But I
Speaker:want to do that because I want to still be able to know what's going on on a day to day
Speaker:basis while also providing value and experience
Speaker:to my clients. And so one of
Speaker:the things you want to be careful of when you're looking for a mentor
Speaker:of your own is, do they have the receipts? Because
Speaker:there's a lot of people in the internet world,
Speaker:like social media, and they can simply put in their bio, I
Speaker:do $1 billion in sales. But
Speaker:it actually doesn't mean shit, because if you go into their their
Speaker:social media, if they're driving a Kia, there's
Speaker:something that doesn't add up, right? Because if they're doing a billion dollars
Speaker:in sales, you're going to think they're probably going to have a Lamborghini or two. And
Speaker:I'm not saying that material possessions matter. I'm
Speaker:just saying that there's got to be some joining
Speaker:the dots and things that kind of make sense in your mind. So
Speaker:that's why you need to look a bit deeper into some of these mentors and
Speaker:coaches. You certainly want to be getting coached and mentored
Speaker:by someone who's in the position that you want to be in, who
Speaker:has already paved the journey already. Because I know that
Speaker:when I was getting, and I've spent myself over six figures easily
Speaker:in my time, not just from Amazon, but also in cryptocurrency, in
Speaker:Facebook ads, in consulting. A
Speaker:whole range of things, yeah? Buying businesses online and
Speaker:I've gained experience from different mentors and coaches along the
Speaker:way and it's kind of built up my foundation of knowledge over
Speaker:time because not only have I learned that but I've also implemented a lot of
Speaker:that as well and got real life experience from
Speaker:that. I look
Speaker:back to my very first mentoring program and
Speaker:I thought, how could I structure my mentoring to
Speaker:be even better than what I had experienced? And
Speaker:so one of the things I do now, which I know people need, is
Speaker:24-7 access. Now, you're going to say,
Speaker:holy shit, how do you provide 24-7 access? Well,
Speaker:I just do. I let clients contact
Speaker:me. any day of the week at any time because
Speaker:what I want to see from them is success and I don't want
Speaker:them to get stuck on anything which then holds
Speaker:them back. So let's just say you're that person and you're going
Speaker:through an Amazon training program and you get stuck.
Speaker:It might be how to set up your Amazon account. It might be which product
Speaker:to find. It comes down to a lot surprising, well not surprisingly,
Speaker:is a lot of mindset. People doubting themselves, this is the right thing
Speaker:for me and I can obviously talk from experience because I've gone from
Speaker:being like in negative a million dollars in the hole right
Speaker:to now doing over 40 million dollars on online and
Speaker:over 100 million dollars in sales, business sales total. And
Speaker:so I have structured the course that way so
Speaker:that it adds real value. There was no one else in the marketplace
Speaker:that was also providing that type of level of access
Speaker:and who's also at the level of achievement that
Speaker:I've been able to get to myself. So
Speaker:that's why I've joined that sort of program together.
Speaker:because I can deliver so much value to people and I'm seeing the results right
Speaker:now. There are people who have joined who just never thought they would even launch a
Speaker:product and we're now launching products. There's people that have joined with
Speaker:my program who have already got existing products, who
Speaker:didn't know how to take them to market, who didn't know how to scale them and
Speaker:now we're going through those exact steps of what are they, which markets
Speaker:do I start in because sometimes Look, not even sometimes. It's
Speaker:always overwhelming when you don't know. And so that's the
Speaker:level of expertise that I provide to people. And you know what? I
Speaker:absolutely love it. I thrive on it. So guys, thank
Speaker:you so much for joining me for this podcast episode. It's
Speaker:been a real pleasure. I hope you've got a lot of value out of that. If you do want
Speaker:to reach out to me for mentoring, please click on one of the links around this
Speaker:podcast and I'll be happy to talk to you, fill in the application form and see if you're a
Speaker:right fit. And thank you for joining me. I'll see you next time. Thanks
Speaker:for tuning into Amazon Ecom Secrets. If you
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Speaker:You can also find more at I'm Matthew Fraser
Speaker:on all social media platforms. Thanks so much. Take