Speaker A

All right, I was going to save this for my last question of the night for you, but it seems like it's a perfect time to answer.

Speaker A

I actually knit this.

Speaker A

Now, what has astrology done for you?

Speaker B

It has made me a better human being, first and foremost.

Speaker B

It has made me a great father, a phenomenal science fiction comic book writer, a teacher, and has allowed me to do something that I thought I would have to join, like civil rights movement or some type of movement to do, or some type of church or religious organization to help change people's lives.

Speaker B

Help me change lives, huh?

Speaker A

I'm glad you.

Speaker A

I'm glad you used that word, join.

Speaker A

Which leads me to why I

Speaker B

reached

Speaker A

out to you, because I read a paper that you wrote 11 years ago.

Speaker A

It was called.

Speaker A

It was called Racism Unmasked or.

Speaker A

Or Racism in Astrology.

Speaker A

Astrology of Racism.

Speaker B

It was two of them was part one and part two.

Speaker B

Part one is cosmophysics, Racism Unmasked, and the part two is called Race and Astrology.

Speaker A

All right, now, in part one, what led up to part one?

Speaker B

Racism in Astrology.

Speaker B

I was so enthusiastic about cosmophysics and how I was being taught and the accuracy of it.

Speaker B

I wanted everybody to know about it.

Speaker B

Funny thing, my mentor said the reason he taught me is because everyone thought he was crazy and he wanted other people to go crazy with him.

Speaker B

I began to adapt that.

Speaker B

I began to adapt that mentality because the better I got astrology, the more isolated I became from my family, from my friends.

Speaker B

No one knew what I was talking about.

Speaker B

I saw astrology, everything.

Speaker B

I just pop off and say, oh, hell, Mars is rising now.

Speaker B

Look at all the fire trucks around.

Speaker B

Look at the police, look at the action going on, you know, and people look at me like, is he gone crazy?

Speaker B

But I am just observing the heavens in motion.

Speaker B

You know, live astrology, they didn't understand that.

Speaker B

So I became isolated.

Speaker B

And for a person like me, a Libra, I need people around.

Speaker B

How did it.

Speaker A

How did your family accept your diving into astrology?

Speaker A

Probably like mine.

Speaker B

They think I'm crazy.

Speaker B

Yeah.

Speaker B

My grandmother thinks it's the devil.

Speaker A

Claudia, what is your family.

Speaker A

How'd your family think about you diving into astrology?

Speaker C

Yeah, the same.

Speaker C

I mean, that's kind of.

Speaker C

We're basically plagued by that, aren't we?

Speaker C

Like, when those.

Speaker C

Those of us that practice astrology, like, we basically become the black sheep of any sort of community we're in because it's so out there.

Speaker B

That was hurtful for me because I was a Libra and I was very popular.

Speaker B

I had lots of friends, lots of groups of friends.

Speaker B

And so what I began to do is go online, seek that companionship online outside.

Speaker B

My mentor, he was the only person that I could talk to.

Speaker B

And when he wasn't available, no one to talk to.

Speaker B

My girlfriends were like, so, you know, so it became almost like when I was dealing with women, we weren't having sex or being romantic.

Speaker B

Then they had no use for me because all I wanted to do was talk about astrology all day, every I want to read them, read their family, everything.

Speaker B

So I began to go online to the online groups.

Speaker B

And at this time Facebook was just starting to really pick up.

Speaker B

I used to go to myjournal.com everybody heard that I used to go on there.

Speaker B

And they had these groups, these astrology groups.

Speaker B

And I was like, oh man, astrologers.

Speaker B

And I got up in the groups and everyone's talking.

Speaker B

And then I started talking causal physics.

Speaker B

Now you have to understand something.

Speaker B

I am not a traditionally trained astrologer.

Speaker B

So I didn't know the nomenclature for traditional astrology.

Speaker B

Cosmophysics.

Speaker B

A little different because we emphasize a certain different things.

Speaker B

Like we emphasize field study.

Speaker B

You know how I was saying we would go on the bus and we were just straight reading people, right or wrong, just doing it at practice.

Speaker B

That is a sharpening shore technique.

Speaker B

We were taking the black conscious idea of show improve and putting that in astrology.

Speaker B

If we couldn't prove it, we didn't talk about it.

Speaker B

If it was provable, we kept it.

Speaker B

And so we gained an eclectic system of astrology which we call it cosmophysics, and start branding it the Jee Kwon do of astrology.

Speaker B

Because we want use techniques that you can't use.

Speaker B

And we could start to calculate in our mind the sun ° the, the plans ° the motions and without the software.

Speaker B

So a cosmophysician is a walking, living, breathing software and ephemeris.

Speaker B

And I demonstrated that last night with my students with you.

Speaker B

I said I wanted you to see that they don't need software to calculate your son degree where it's at where the sun is now, where It'll be at 30 days.

Speaker B

So it'll be sextiling your son da da da and all these other things.

Speaker B

So I wanted to spread that.

Speaker B

And when I got into these groups, the first thing I met was a lot of elitists.

Speaker B

Before, before I met the racist, I met the elitist.

Speaker B

Oh, you know, the way you're doing it, that's wrong.

Speaker B

We learned this way.

Speaker B

You have to join the UAC you have to spend 2500, 3000, $4000 for these, for these, for these programs, you know, blah, blah, blah.

Speaker B

And I met some nice people, too.

Speaker B

One day, a nice astrologer said to me, I went to Silver Spring, Maryland, to an astrology conference where there were only three black people there.

Speaker B

And two of those black people were in their 80s.

Speaker B

I was the only black person, young person there.

Speaker B

And I went there and start face reading people.

Speaker B

You're this, you're so this, that, and blowing their mind.

Speaker B

Pull me aside.

Speaker B

She said, where did you learn that?

Speaker B

I said, oh, my mentor gonna be here in an hour and he'll tell you cosmophysics.

Speaker B

And I was telling her how I was really looking for a sponsor to get into the UAC or one of these official astrology clubs to learn their techniques.

Speaker B

And she says, don't you do it.

Speaker B

She says, everything you just did, everything that they're going to teach you, you already know you'd be spending thousands of dollars for nothing.

Speaker B

You just did something that 80% of the people here cannot do, and they've been studying astrology for over 20 years.