Track 3: Beavis and butthead i don't think have free will at all or.

Track 1: That that or they are utter.

Track 3: Agents of of complete free will.

Track 1: Oh so so

Track 1: for for listeners that are maybe curious i'll probably you

Track 1: know keep this part and then i'll do the intro but we we

Track 1: myself left the projector and dan and jared of concessions just recorded an

Track 1: episode on arrival we're talking about very complex things and uh We are not

Track 1: going to be talking about complex things during the next however long it takes

Track 1: to discuss the film at hand, which is Beavis and Butthead Do America.

Track 1: So get ready for unadulterated fart jokes, boob jokes, and me describing the

Track 1: meme where Butthead is in the Criterion closet. And he says,

Track 1: well, which one of these has boobs?

Track 2: Where actually that reminds me.

Track 3: Evan's in the closet.

Track 2: That reminds me, you know, I'm thinking like, oh, great.

Track 2: Like now, you know, this is going to be if someone turns this on and they've

Track 2: never heard of the concessions boys before, this is going to be the the impression

Track 2: that we leave out there to your deeply intelligent scholarly listeners.

Track 1: Yeah.

Track 2: That my my mom would finally listen to one of our episodes.

Track 2: She's like, I don't think it's for me. I think it's a little adult.

Track 2: Like, you know, glad you're having fun.

Track 2: But like, I don't think I'm listening. saying oh like what episode did you listen

Track 2: to you know what episode my sweet sweet

Track 2: mother started as like a taster

Track 2: for what this our show is like it was

Track 2: bo's afraid the freakiest kinkiest mommy issuist movie that we probably have

Track 2: ever done and that's what sweet sweet mother i'm not going to use her real name

Track 2: because because you don't need to know my mom you don't know my mom no one gets

Track 2: to know my mom but me but my sweet mother and.

Track 3: It reminded dan of the time where like uh his mom had never read a single one

Track 3: of his book reports or his essays in school and finally she picked one up and

Track 3: she was like this is a little weird dan and it was his his take on oedipus.

Track 2: Yeah yeah yeah but it's weird that like all of my uh everything i wrote in high

Track 2: school somehow always related to oedipus i mean i don't know.

Track 3: Yeah oh my god that reminds me of my all-time favorite stand-up comedy joke

Track 3: and uh Dan actually watched this special with me but it doesn't have a punchline

Track 3: it's not like a set up and misdirect or anything the joke is just Freud's mom

Track 3: must have been so fucking hot laughter,

Track 3: that's Anthony Jezelnik.

Track 2: That's gotta be like one.

Track 3: Of the greatest jokes ever written.

Track 2: Laughter.

Track 1: Hello and welcome to Left of the Projector. I am your host, Evan,

Track 1: back again with another film discussion from the left.

Track 1: This week on the show, we are diving it back to the 90s, to 1996 for the classic

Track 1: Mike Judge film, maybe my favorite Mike Judge film, that is Beavis and Butthead, Do America.

Track 1: And with me, I am back on the show for numerous time, numerous collaboration.

Track 1: I have Dan and Jared of Concessions Podcast. thank you and uh you will not score

Track 1: on this podcast unfortunately well.

Track 2: Has any podcaster ever scored.

Track 1: Oh oh.

Track 3: Yeah who here has had a cavity search who's who's his mind the briny depths oh.

Track 1: But yes uh i appreciate you uh coming on and as i mentioned the intro we just

Track 1: recorded an episode on arrival so this is like the the opposite booby there

Track 1: could be any two opposites it would be this yeah.

Track 3: We just had this big meaty meal and this is our our dessert this is our our

Track 3: little our little tiny glass of port it's but it's not important.

Track 2: It's like no it's like pixie sticks or like just.

Track 3: Some bullshit candy yeah.

Track 1: Oh yeah for some reason we're snorting whatever no not that's what about things

Track 1: a little uh the thing where you dip the thing into the sugar Fun dip. Fun dip.

Track 2: Or you dip sugar in sugar.

Track 3: Yeah, and then you were like washing it down with a Baja blast.

Track 1: A joke caller.

Track 2: Where on top of this, the backstory about how we all found each other is that

Track 2: I found on Rev Left Radio that he posted an episode that he did with Evan like

Track 2: a year ago or so on a Tarkovsky film.

Track 2: So as of right now, the last recording that Evan has on his channel is them

Track 2: doing Mirror, which also was just like an incredible, wide-ranging, like...

Track 2: deeply like human conversation about like what it means to fucking be alive

Track 2: and i'm glad that you saved those conversations for uh brett and amanda.

Track 1: And we.

Track 2: Get beavis and butthead.

Track 1: Well it would even be funnier if this episode had come out immediately following

Track 1: mirror it didn't for for anyone listening for anyone uh it will not come out

Track 1: in that order but that would have also been very funny but yeah this is uh so

Track 1: that like so well maybe before we do before we talk about my opening question

Track 1: about Beavis and Butthead.

Track 1: Do you want to tell us about concessions for anyone who may not know?

Track 2: Yeah.

Track 3: Go ahead, Dan. No, no, you. I insist.

Track 2: Oh, I concede to you. You should do it. No, I got it.

Track 2: Where this started as we both met at a job up in Seattle and we realized immediately

Track 2: that we couldn't shut the fuck up about movies in a way that made everyone else

Track 2: scatter while the two of us are still left chatting.

Track 2: So then I moved from Seattle. I now live in Southern California,

Track 2: and we just kind of kept talking.

Track 2: And what was apparent is that we come to movies from two different angles.

Track 2: And Jared, being someone who has actually worked in the arts and worked in theater and,

Track 2: Writes music and accomplished artists, but he would never say so.

Track 2: He comes through the craft side because, you know, he intimately understands these things.

Track 2: And so, like, has much more insight on, like, the nuts and bolts in movies and

Track 2: how they work and why they work and what makes them successful.

Track 2: Where I come through it from more of a conceptual side.

Track 2: My background's more in, like, sociology and humanities.

Track 2: So, I would always look at it from that angle. So,

Track 2: you know, there would be times where we sort of mismatch or our viewpoints would

Track 2: be slightly different in ways that might cause one person to concede,

Track 2: one could say, their opinion to the other one.

Track 2: So funnily enough, it started, we saw something more, I wouldn't say combative,

Track 2: but we were purposely trying to find like, well, I like this movie and you don't like this movie.

Track 2: So we're going to try and hash it out where now it's just like,

Track 2: let's just talk about movies we like together. And here we are.

Track 3: Yeah. Yeah. It's turned into just the classic, hey, we're friends and we haven't

Track 3: seen all of the movies that the other person has seen.

Track 3: So let's like make sure our friend can see all these great movies.

Track 3: The episode, like, you know, ironically, it doesn't happen all that often.

Track 3: But the episode we just did on arrival was like a true to the spirit of concessions

Track 3: where Evan was a detractor and we tried to get him to like a movie more than he did before.

Track 1: Yes well you can go i won't tell you what

Track 1: happened i won't spoil that so you should go listen to uh

Track 1: the our discussion on arrival but as

Track 1: like a much more light-hearted film beavis

Track 1: and butthead do america i'm curious not necessarily

Track 1: maybe your history of this movie like when you saw it but i'd be curious if

Track 1: you either of you watched beavis and butthead you know in the 90s or like when

Track 1: you came across it and you know if or was this the first you know uh i'm trying

Track 1: to think what year did the show come out probably like 94 95 i.

Track 3: Think yeah something like that 93 or 94 i think then the movie was what this.

Track 1: Movie talking about now.

Track 3: Is 96 yeah yes so before this movie came out i definitely,

Track 3: seen Beavis and Butthead. I wouldn't say extensively.

Track 3: I think when Beavis and Butthead first came out, I was like six or seven.

Track 3: And I was a big MTV watcher, like a major connoisseur of music videos and just watched a lot of MTV.

Track 3: And Beavis and Butthead would sort of invade my music video time here and there.

Track 3: And I don't think I was allowed to watch it, but it

Track 3: didn't stop me and I do remember being

Track 3: sort of like afraid of it in a way like

Track 3: it was too gross too weird too

Track 3: like gory like all that stuff when it first

Track 3: came out that it like disturbed me as a kid you know and I

Track 3: still get that feeling watching it now where I get the ick from

Track 3: it even though it's like so fucking tame compared to

Track 3: so many things that I've watched as an adult um but

Track 3: yeah i definitely watched it as a kid

Track 3: i watched this movie fairly shortly after it came out and the playground at

Track 3: my elementary school it was a common occurrence for you know a kid to pull their

Track 3: shirt up halfway over their head throw their arms in the air and announce themselves

Track 3: as the great cornholio that happened all the time at my elementary school yeah.

Track 2: Uh so for me i was Definitely one of those kids that couldn't even watch MTV.

Track 2: So I sure as shit couldn't watch Beavis and Butthead.

Track 2: And it was one that I kind of, strangely enough, my nerdy ass kind of agreed with my parents.

Track 2: Where I remember like, you know, just flipping through the channels.

Track 2: Maybe everyone's while I'll pop up.

Track 2: And kind of to Jared's point too, where it's like, I was used to kids cartoons.

Track 2: And I was never used to adult cartoons that are like deliberately grotesque.

Track 2: that like the point of the humor is like look how fucked up these like weird

Track 2: looking chinless son of a bitches look like and like their voices are really

Track 2: off-putting and they're just nasty and like you know i was used to like looney

Track 2: tunes and spongebob where everything is like happy and fun and bouncy and so i think just like i'd,

Track 2: It was not one of the shows where I was willing to break my parents' rules and

Track 2: sneak around to watch it, which every cool kid actually did.

Track 2: But that one, I was like, nah, leave it aside.

Track 2: So actually, watching this movie this past week is the first time I've ever

Track 2: actually sat down and directly engaged with anything featuring Beavis and Mr. Head, first name butt.

Track 2: But I think it definitely filled in a lot of gaps where like,

Track 2: oh, like what Jared said, that's what cornholio comes from.

Track 2: Oh, that's why people called their assholes their bungholes.

Track 2: I now understand. Or even just the where I remember just a quick like side story

Track 2: that there was one weekend in college where there was like everyone went home except for four of us.

Track 2: And me and one of my buddies, like we just stayed in my place or my dorm and

Track 2: played video games for the other two for three straight days.

Track 2: From the moment they got up to the moment they went to bed, they just hit the

Track 2: first episode of Beavis and Butthead and just went.

Track 2: So for the entirety of that year, they would just be like, hi, baby.

Track 2: Just and I didn't know where it came from because I didn't know these people.

Track 2: I just thought they were being fucking idiots, which they were.

Track 2: They were just getting it from even greater idiots.

Track 3: Dude, that reminds me so much of watching this over the past week.

Track 3: So I watched the movie this past week. I watched maybe like 10 episodes of the

Track 3: original series. I watched a few episodes of the 2022 series.

Track 3: And I didn't quite get to Beavis and Butthead do the universe,

Track 3: but I will soon. I have two friends that...

Track 3: they're you know roughly the same age like they're they're millennials

Track 3: or elder millennials and they never

Track 3: knew each other before i introduced them to each other but like

Track 3: one of them basically has like

Track 3: almost like this social tick where he'll like to be funny

Track 3: kind of put on this butthead like affect uh yeah

Track 3: and uh he does it a lot and like

Track 3: i picked it up from him a little bit for a while and then

Track 3: i have another friend who they don't know each other at or they

Track 3: didn't know each other at all they they they're like quite close now

Track 3: but he's did the same thing but with like a beavis like affect and i guarantee

Track 3: you there's got to be millions of people who are like currently like 35 to 45

Track 3: that can say the same thing like either themselves or they have friends that

Track 3: just like picked up one of those personalities well.

Track 1: So so yeah well to to that point so i'll tell like a two-part story so i came

Track 1: across beavis and butthead i was i'm like a family a little older so So this

Track 1: came out when I was 11 or so.

Track 1: And then maybe two years later when I was 13, I was at like the McDonald's at

Track 1: the mall after school with some kids from school.

Track 1: And they're making like Beavis and Butt-Head jokes. I'm like,

Track 1: I don't know what the fuck these guys are talking about.

Track 1: And they're like, oh, you've never seen Beavis and Butt-Head?

Track 1: I'm like, oh, no. And then I asked my parents if they could like I could watch this show.

Track 1: And they're like, absolutely, you cannot watch this show, which made me want to watch the show.

Track 1: Of course, I want to watch the show. And so I did anyway. I would watch it.

Track 1: and it just became like i think it's someone they're like they didn't care anymore

Track 1: they're like oh whatever it's just there's worse things you could be doing

Track 1: i guess you know than than watching this and i

Track 1: had a friend at the time who described the show as like oh you need to watch

Track 1: that he was definitely coded as like the butthead guy like that's how he kind

Track 1: of acted and then i was always like oh i wonder like who's the beavis like in

Track 1: this scenario and i never really i guess if you don't know who it is i guess it's you right i'm.

Track 2: About to say it's not that you are.

Track 1: I was serious yeah so were.

Track 3: You were you uh were you like a pyromaniac as a kid.

Track 1: No definitely not did you score not and not not when i was 13 perhaps,

Track 1: loser oh man but yeah so and then i i

Track 1: think i my parents actually let me see this movie in

Track 1: the theater which wow in retrospect like i

Track 1: they let me see a lot of like i saw

Track 1: like the exorcist with them when i was like 11 so like they're like

Track 1: their perception of like what was acceptable for movies

Track 1: was generally as long as there wasn't like explicit sex

Track 1: in the movie like it was a fine like it could be gory it

Track 1: could be horror movie didn't matter standard american parents yeah and uh maybe

Track 1: not as uh as like uh as open as beavis and butthead's parents as we learn in

Track 1: this in this film as motley crew roadies or whatever in it but yeah i just remember

Track 1: like i feel like Beavis and Butthead was like a formative...

Track 1: thing in like my middle school life and

Track 1: i actually have a one last story that i'll tell is that the original run

Track 1: of this show ended in 1997 and i

Track 1: remember to this day where i was when i watched

Track 1: that episode because i was in new york city visiting my

Track 1: uncle and we're at some deli like heading dinner and and i'm like mom we have

Track 1: to get back to the hotel because it's the last episode of beers and butthead

Track 1: and they'll and then like i don't think we're gonna make it and they put the

Track 1: show on the tv at the bar of this like deli and i sat there and watched the

Track 1: last episode of beers and butthead the original run like at this deli and does.

Track 3: That deli still exist.

Track 1: It does not.

Track 3: Oh oh that's a bummer what's what's there now do you know.

Track 1: I think it's probably like a starbucks i don't know actually probably.

Track 3: Yeah and like condos above it.

Track 1: Yeah it was like a it was like one of those it was in like the deli district

Track 1: in new york where there was like the stage deli deli.

Track 2: District god damn.

Track 1: Yeah or i don't know if it's still anymore there's just like all the big old

Track 1: famous delis where you get like the pastrami sandwich that was you know a pound

Track 1: of beef for you know named.

Track 3: After some celebrity that no one's heard of.

Track 1: Yeah 50 years yeah it's like the woody allen or something i don't know yeah it's not.

Track 3: As good as the roman.

Track 1: Polanski which.

Track 3: Is not as good as the kevin spacey which isn't anywhere near as good as the diddy.

Track 1: Oh i'd rather I'd rather order the David Lynch, personally.

Track 3: Oh.

Track 2: That would actually be a delicious, wholesome.

Track 3: Yummy dream.

Track 1: Yes. Yes. That was meant to be like, I'd want to have that sandwich.

Track 3: Yeah. It would come with Cheetos and a couple of cookies and a Coke.

Track 2: Oh, that'd be so nice.

Track 1: Yes.

Track 3: Yeah.

Track 1: And you could have, what, cherry pie to wash it in.

Track 2: Oh, yeah.

Track 3: Oh. That man loved his food.

Track 1: He did. He did. uh but yes like that's just like my memories of the of this

Track 1: and so like there's nothing i can do to separate like middle school from this

Track 1: and i also then watched daria like a little bit did either of you ever see that in like retrospect i.

Track 3: Didn't oh god oh no i just i watched it and i was you know i i combined it in

Track 3: my head with beavis and butthead here and there because they're both on MTV

Track 3: and they're both about being an adolescent and all that stuff.

Track 1: Yeah, Daria was much more interesting. Actually, like a good show in that it actually had,

Track 1: you know like morals and like you know

Track 1: lessons lessons you could learn and and

Track 1: i just recently acquired the we won't

Track 1: say where the uh full full show daria and

Track 1: what's interesting is that it like just like beers and

Track 1: butthead they had music videos and songs that weren't licensed to be released

Track 1: like in the future on you know dvd or whatever so you can find on the internet

Track 1: the daria show with the original music which is like has like hole and like

Track 1: oh good ass shit in there so i definitely suggest anyone to go check out daria it's.

Track 3: Literally a spinoff right like daria.

Track 1: Is like their classmate daria is a classmate she the pilot episode is her moving to a new town,

Track 1: like and then she has to you know has a brother and they like you know navigate

Track 1: that as a you know teen teen girl which is more interesting than beers and butthead uh but.

Track 3: Man that's so interesting that like daria and king of the hill both sort of

Track 3: spun off from beavis and butthead and both of them are so much like more serious

Track 3: and introspective and stuff.

Track 1: And good like king of the hell is really a real i'm doing a rewatch of king

Track 1: of the hill right now i'm on like season two it is just a fantastic show yeah.

Track 3: It it's it's actually besides the episodic comedic like sitcom nature of it

Track 3: it's also a great ongoing serial drama.

Track 1: It's uh yeah it's um it's like a pretty layer but it was first on i didn't like

Track 1: it i thought like oh this is like a redneck show that i don't want to watch

Track 1: before the simpsons comes on but now i'm like oh this is actually see.

Track 2: I didn't like it because you know like i said with beefs and butthead like as

Track 2: a kid i had a very specific idea of what cartoons were which is like you know

Track 2: fun zany like wall-to-wall jokes kind of entertainment And so when this,

Track 2: like, and especially this adult show, so like, you know, for,

Track 2: for when I was growing up, like adult animation was family guy.

Track 2: So when I watched King of the Hill, I'm like.

Track 2: this is boring i don't what's going on here like this isn't even this is hardly

Track 2: even inappropriate it's like where where's like the the violence and fucked

Track 2: up stuff like this is just kind of like a like a normal show just animated yeah

Track 2: now that i'm older i appreciate uh king of the hill and don't like family guy as much anymore yeah.

Track 1: I i'm i'm the same way i liked family guy when i was you know when it was on

Track 1: but now i prefer uh which i guess is it still on tv family guy.

Track 2: Is it still Yeah.

Track 3: Oh yeah. It's ongoing.

Track 2: Oh my God.

Track 3: As is South park as are the Simpsons.

Track 1: Yeah. The Simpsons will be the first one to end though. Primarily because of

Track 1: like people dying and you know being old and such.

Track 2: You think they'll just let that cash cow go because somebody dies.

Track 3: Yeah. I mean they've had like they've had they've endured major cast members dying.

Track 3: They've endured one of their primary like showrunner

Track 3: writer's room guys dying i mean maybe we'll see what happens like the in the

Track 3: darkest timeline it'll just be perpetual via gen ai and uh no i mean maybe no

Track 3: one will watch it but like the audience will also be gen ai it'll.

Track 2: Be a great asset you know they can put in their portfolio.

Track 1: Well here's another question i have about beers and but and maybe like this

Track 1: may be different for you dan is,

Track 1: Do you think so? Well, maybe that, maybe not watching this film in 2025,

Track 1: you know, this is an, like a very 90s show.

Track 1: It's very much like stuck in that time. Like you said, all these jokes and words

Track 1: that people just say now that are just kind of part of like the lexicon.

Track 1: Like, do you think it like holds up even though it's like a potty mouth bunch

Track 1: of like 15, 16 year olds that literally the entire film is them like trying

Track 1: to have sex with the me more?

Track 2: I mean I think it holds up as like a basically as

Track 2: like a time capsule and also because like the show

Track 2: also knows it's dumb as shit like it's not trying

Track 2: I don't think it's really trying to make much of a statement where

Track 2: it's like it's very obvious like these two kids are like misogynists they're

Track 2: like completely self-involved they're you know problematic to a T even before

Track 2: that word really even existed but it's like you kind of let this one slide because

Track 2: it's just so obvious like the the the writers of the show are We're so obviously in on it.

Track 2: It's like, you don't, you don't grow up and want to be like Beavis and Butthead,

Track 2: but when you're like, and that's what I remember from the show when I was like

Track 2: 13, 14, like it's more fun,

Track 2: just kind of reveling in like the stupid, like the stupidest shit to piss off adults.

Track 2: And that's what this show basically does.

Track 2: It's, you know, adult writers and creators making a show that would piss off

Track 2: parents the most. And like, that's kind of the fun of the cartoon is you're,

Track 2: you're indulging in that.

Track 3: Yeah, totally. And it's like clear it's, you know, Gen X commenting on its own brain rot.

Track 2: Yeah.

Track 3: Right. This is like a decade plus of music videos.

Track 3: And these kids basically only have the attention span for like a three to five minute music video.

Track 3: And like there it's, you know, it's self-effacing in like a way that's very

Track 3: generational. but then you know like,

Track 3: you can easily apply it to you

Track 3: know millennial brain rot and social media or like

Track 3: gen z brain rot and like tiktok and content

Track 3: served in 30 second clips and like i wasn't

Track 3: surprised at all to find out that the 2022 show instead

Track 3: of watching music video well they do watch music videos but it's

Track 3: like mike judge's not famous friends music videos but

Track 3: they are like mostly watching like tiktok videos and

Track 3: uh commenting on them and it's like yeah that that rubs me maybe like a little

Track 3: bit wrong where it's like oh gen x is now like commenting on gen z's brain rot

Track 3: instead of their own brain rot but like i think it still holds up just given

Track 3: that generational lens and how self-effacing it is well.

Track 2: I think on top of like you know the self-effacing brain

Track 2: rot of like you know at this point like cable tv was a sort of new thing like

Track 2: the the beavis and butthead like the generation they represent are sort of the

Track 2: first generation of people to be raised on 24 four hour content or like you

Track 2: can watch TV pretty much up to sundown.

Track 2: Now the TV from like 1am to 6am kind of sucks. But like, if you wanted to,

Track 2: you could just glue yourself to the TV like that.

Track 2: Cause they now have, you know, full blown cable, you know, reflected by stations

Track 2: like MTV, which are providing that.

Track 2: But I think while it does, it does totally do that. I'm not going to,

Track 2: I'm not mitigating that, but it also, which I think is why it has staying power.

Track 2: Like it shows the joy of like pop culture. And it shows why people love it so

Track 2: much, particularly in the music videos.

Track 2: Because, like, those are the clips I've seen just passively,

Track 2: you know, having a phone on the internet.

Track 2: It's like Beavis and Butthead commenting on music videos. And,

Track 2: like, they sincerely love, like, heavy metal and music and stuff like that.

Track 2: And you're seeing, you see, like, before it really, like, pop culture was really fascinating.

Track 2: Respected as like a something more

Track 2: than just like disposable entertainment where i think we have more

Track 2: of a sense of that today to like respect the craft of the craft of like a bubblegum

Track 2: pop song i think when that was still like like uh devalued as like oh this is

Track 2: kitty shit this is like for dum-dums like it's showing yeah it's a little stupid

Track 2: but like there is sincere joy in it as well well.

Track 1: It's it's also funny like i think of like you also think about oftentimes gen

Track 1: x is referred to as literally the mtv generation.

Track 2: Yeah like it's pretty.

Track 1: Comical in a sense of like a bunch of gen x people making a show on mtv about

Track 1: like their own generation and their own like you know.

Track 2: A kid ruined by mtv yeah.

Track 1: Like the yeah the shortcomings of it and and uh yeah i mean i I always,

Track 1: when I watched it as a kid, I always found the music videos to either be like

Track 1: the best part of the episode or the absolute worst.

Track 1: Because if it was like a good song that you liked, you're like,

Track 1: oh man, like I want to hear this song.

Track 1: But then if it was like a really shitty song, like even their dumb jokes about

Track 1: it, like weren't enough to keep me like hooked for that, for those two minutes,

Track 1: which is kind of ironic given like the commentary.

Track 2: Uh while you were watching it were these music

Track 2: videos was this a source of like new music being exposed to you and broadening

Track 2: your taste out like i think of how like you know someone my age is a little

Track 2: younger that was tony hawk for me where the playlist would like expose me to

Track 2: new music or maybe you know people a little younger than me that could be like guitar hero yeah.

Track 3: It didn't work on me that way.

Track 2: I mean i i'll would i'd never be saying like oh my so people like no one would

Track 2: say oh my taste in music was influenced by butthead or oh no.

Track 3: No no i'm saying specifically mine was not.

Track 2: Oh you know.

Track 3: I did end up liking heavy music um years later but i would say that for the

Track 3: most part like i would say the average like feedback about beavis and butthead

Track 3: is a lot of people used it as a music discovery.

Track 2: Mechanism and.

Track 3: It definitely like made a cultural impact in that way.

Track 1: Yeah. I was going to say, I think that there was a lot of songs that I had never heard of before.

Track 1: And like, there's a lot of, I mean, this was a time when you would like actually

Track 1: we're getting, you know, music videos.

Track 1: Everyone was, that's how you expose the world to your song.

Track 1: And then, well, I guess that in the radio, you know, or, or,

Track 1: you know, as a way to hear it without having to buy anything, you know?

Track 1: So there were lots of music that I heard for the first time on, um,

Track 1: you know, on it. And actually I, another distinct memory I have is there was

Track 1: actually a Beavis and Butthead, um, CD.

Track 2: I'm looking at it. The Beavis and Butthead experience, which has artists like

Track 2: Nirvana, Anthrax, Megadeth, Run DMC, White Zombie, Primus, Chili Peppers. Oh, wow.

Track 1: Yeah.

Track 3: I had, I had that.

Track 1: I, I got this, I got that CD for Hanukkah when

Track 1: I was 11 years old as the CD that can't

Track 1: so i got a a disc man and

Track 1: with the disc man as my gift was this cd that

Track 1: rocks and i remember this is like the coolest thing ever you know like i didn't

Track 1: really like megadeth that much or anthrax but i like rocked out to those songs

Track 1: because they're on the cd and yeah i think that was like it sold a ton i think

Track 1: it's it's a two million copies yeah.

Track 3: It's a good compilation album wow that that's okay so that is the first time i heard primus.

Track 1: Same was was.

Track 3: Was the beavis and butthead experience and primus is one of my all-time favorite

Track 3: bands and that song that's on there that's like not on any of their albums and

Track 3: i haven't thought of that song poetry and prose in a very long time.

Track 1: I know but.

Track 3: I immediately can can like remember the entire thing.

Track 1: After this i'm going to add this entire cd to my like playlist so i can listen

Track 1: to it tomorrow on the like on my way to work like so yeah i think that like

Track 1: the that's what maybe makes the the movie,

Track 1: and even the show as well, just like as a collection of this moment when you

Track 1: were exposed to not just like potty jokes, but also it was a way for MTV to

Track 1: place, it was like product placement before in a way.

Track 1: Like there wasn't any other product placement on this or even in the movie, I don't think.

Track 2: Well, and I wonder how curated that is. Like, is this Mike Judge and the team

Track 2: like specifically curating these songs or is this coming down from MTV?

Track 2: Like, oh, this song's hot, we want to push it.

Track 3: Yeah, well, what I was saying earlier is the new series is it's clearly Mike Judge.

Track 3: And I don't know. I mean, Headbangers Ball was a big deal at the same time.

Track 3: So like Heavy Metal was like, you know, it in the early 90s and like along with

Track 3: grunge and stuff and some pop punk.

Track 3: And yeah, they covered all of that. So I assume it would be a blend.

Track 1: Well, also, so the album was actually thought of because like the guy,

Track 1: David Geffen, who owned Geffen Records or music group, whatever, I guess Geffen Records,

Track 1: it was his idea to have a CD in conjunction with it when he saw how popular

Track 1: the show was and how they were using music videos.

Track 1: He's like, oh, what if I just released a bunch of my...

Track 1: clients on a cd and then made a bunch of money off it and that's what he did.

Track 2: There you go.

Track 3: And he's a producer on the movie and.

Track 1: The show.

Track 3: Too i think i think it's all geffen productions on the show and the film.

Track 1: Which also then makes me wonder if initially a lot of the music videos are his

Track 1: like people who were released albums on geffen records i don't think it's exclusive to that but i bet i.

Track 2: Sniffed some synergy going on.

Track 1: Here yeah and like also like deciding like were they allowed to make fun of

Track 1: a song that was on Geffen Records I mean I think they probably were you know I mean or.

Track 2: Like to take it easy on those.

Track 1: Yeah I mean the songs that they make fun of are always like are usually like

Track 1: songs that I'm like oh man this song blows.

Track 3: Oh yeah it would take a huge huge fucking nerd to like sue a record label about

Track 3: a song that makes fun of them right.

Track 1: If anything it's free publicity a.

Track 2: Fucking loser if you ask me a fucking loser probably a pedophile or even worse a Canadian yep.

Track 3: Yeah i agree i think.

Track 2: We're thinking of the same person.

Track 1: Yeah that well and so as like as part of the like the the film i remember this

Track 1: i mean this was like this was maybe one of the first actually i'm trying to

Track 1: think about was this the first show like cartoon show that like spawned a movie oh.

Track 2: Uh i mean were there.

Track 1: No looney.

Track 2: Tunes movies or anything like that but well especially like a one aimed at older

Track 2: audiences i mean i'm sure beavis and buckhead but was it rated r.

Track 1: No it was actually rated pg pg i think so i think so i'm gonna look that up

Track 1: to confirm but i think it was rated pg because there's they don't ever say that

Track 1: they don't ever say the word shit,

Track 1: there's never the only word that they say that would be deemed like inappropriate would be ass yeah.

Track 2: Is this a god damn.

Track 1: Oh, God, I love that joke so much.

Track 3: That's a great one. It's so stupid.

Track 1: There are just so many.

Track 3: There are Flintstones feature films in, like, the 60s.

Track 1: Okay.

Track 2: But especially not one aimed at audiences older than.

Track 1: Like, When did the real Flintstone movie come out, though?

Track 2: Oh, with John Goodman?

Track 3: Oh, later than that.

Track 2: Yeah, that's, like, a 90s movie.

Track 3: Later than Beavis and Butt-Head, I mean.

Track 2: No, that's a good point.

Track 1: No, 94.

Track 2: Oh, really?

Track 1: Wow, that shocks me.

Track 2: But like the, you know, the specific kind of TV show to movie where it's not

Track 2: like a family kind of comedy.

Track 1: Oh, definitely the first adult one. Like for sure. Like they were doing.

Track 3: Yeah, definitely.

Track 1: South Park.

Track 3: South Park was three years later. Yeah.

Track 1: Yeah. I was going to say.

Track 1: But like that, that doesn't exist probably also without this too.

Track 1: I mean, I don't think like Adult Swim probably exists without Beavis and Butthead. Well.

Track 2: Oh yeah. I mean, even just the, you know, the idea of marketing a cartoon at

Track 2: someone older than kids or putting it on a station that isn't like,

Track 2: you know, Disney Cartoon Network or,

Track 2: Nickelodeon, which are, I don't even know if Nick was out at the point, but you know.

Track 3: No, no, no. No, Beavis and Butthead spawned Nicktoons as well.

Track 2: Yeah, yeah, yeah.

Track 3: There weren't cartoons on Nickelodeon before Beavis and Butthead because then

Track 3: MTV started doing other cartoons and then Ren and Stimpy was one of them.

Track 3: And then that transferred over to Nickelodeon along with Doug and the Rugrats.

Track 3: And so literally there's like a direct cause and effect of like Beavis and Butthead

Track 3: is successful. Nickelodeon starts showing cartoons.

Track 2: And you can see it very clearly in the style of humor that you find in Nickelodeon,

Track 2: which, you know, is still very influential today is like kind of what I was

Track 2: saying is the appeal of Beavis and Butthead.

Track 2: And then you get to like a more watered down, like sanitized version with those

Track 2: early Nicktoons, which is like, oh, this is the kind of stuff that like parents won't understand.

Track 2: And like, this is going to annoy your mom when it's on.

Track 2: She's going to tell you to turn it off because this is too extreme.

Track 2: dream like nick that was nick's ethos through the entire 90s.

Track 1: What's funny about that too is if you think about some of

Track 1: those and that they weren't really being like i

Track 1: don't think that ren and stimpy was being targeted at adults it was being targeted

Track 1: as kids but like weirder than that but if you think about those like that that

Track 1: made that like those things that you said uh jared like that's how you could

Track 1: get adult swim too because those were cartoons that were literally targeted towards adults,

Track 1: not just like softly targeted towards them.

Track 2: And basically pulling on the same threads of an audience that grew up on MTV

Track 2: cartoons, on Nickelodeon cartoons, or even like the Cartoon Network cartoons

Track 2: of the 90s that like by the time they, you know, got to like maybe 15, 16, 17,

Track 2: then Adult Swim was still like, hey, we're going to give you the same kind of humor.

Track 2: We're just going to punch it up to make it a little bit more adult,

Track 2: a little bit more raunchy.

Track 1: Yeah, it's funny. The Adult Swim was launched the week before 9-11.

Track 2: Was it really?

Track 1: I remember. I remember watching it in college.

Track 2: Cause and effect. Oh, well, actually, this reminds me of this.

Track 2: I forget if I've told you this running theory, but I've told Jared this,

Track 2: where most adults, I would say right now between the ages of 30 and 40,

Track 2: I can put them into three major buckets.

Track 2: You were a kid that either grew up watching Nickelodeon.

Track 2: Cartoon Network or the Disney Channel? And I'll tell you now,

Track 2: if you grew up watching the Disney Channel, you're probably a conservative.

Track 1: Interesting. I need to, whenever I meet someone, be like, which one did you watch? And then be like.

Track 2: Perfect. Where everyone watched all three. Where I was firmly a Cartoon Network

Track 2: kid. That's where the freaks were.

Track 1: Oh.

Track 3: Speak for yourself. I don't think I... I never watched the Disney Channel.

Track 2: I had four sisters. So I would watch the Disney Channel from time to time.

Track 1: There was one show on Disney that I watched. I feel like I liked,

Track 1: uh, Tailspin. Was that a Disney show?

Track 2: Oh, well, now you're talking about Toon Disney, which is slightly different.

Track 3: Oh, yeah. Let's not even, like, get started on, like, the non-cable ones.

Track 3: Like, network television, Saturday morning cartoons.

Track 2: That was my shit. DCS and stuff like that? Yeah.

Track 3: No, no, no. I'm talking about Batman and the X-Men. Muppet Baby, Spider-Man.

Track 2: Pokemon.

Track 3: Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles. Gummy Bears.

Track 2: Gummy Bears fucking A.

Track 1: The Smurfs.

Track 3: Bouncing here and there and everywhere.

Track 2: But anyways, my point being is if you grew up and you're a Disney kid,

Track 2: you are definitely the adult version. You probably work in HR right now.

Track 1: Yeah.

Track 3: And please go listen to the Concessions episode about The Little Mermaid.

Track 2: Yes.

Track 1: I listened to that just yesterday, in fact.

Track 2: Oh, there you go.

Track 1: It was very interesting. Lots of things about that I did not know.

Track 2: Look at that. Not only a collaborator, but a satisfied customer of Concessions.

Track 2: Check it out today, kids.

Track 1: Yeah. And actually it got me thinking that I also was the Aladdin kid when I

Track 1: was a, I had a sister and she loved a little mermaid, but I was like,

Track 1: fuck that. Let's put on the ladder now.

Track 2: Yeah, it's cool. It's for boys.

Track 1: Exactly. Exactly.

Track 1: But yeah, so like, well, this is a, so we didn't even really talk about the plot.

Track 1: Like, as I said, literally the plot of this movie is that their TV is stolen

Track 1: and they like stumble upon like the scenario where they're like a,

Track 1: you know, a like hitman type of person hires them to kill their wife,

Track 1: which is played by Demi Moore.

Track 1: And Bruce Willis plays the, like the main, like the very 90s.

Track 1: Yeah. Very 90s. Exactly. And, like, the wife's name is also Dallas,

Track 1: which I assume was, like, to be a play on, like, Debbie Does Dallas because

Track 1: it's beautiful butthead. And, of course, it is.

Track 1: And they go on their journey across America. They do America.

Track 1: And they just go and do the most ridiculous things and always end up,

Track 1: like, you know, being dismissed or, like, accidentally doing something ridiculous. Like, what?

Track 1: Flooding the Hoover Dam and shit. So, it's just, I don't know.

Track 1: What do you think are some of the best scenes or things about it?

Track 1: I have my favorite, but I'll let you go first.

Track 2: Favorite bits.

Track 3: There's a very American bit where all the guns come out and they're all pointing

Track 3: at Butthead. And he's just like, this is the coolest thing I've ever seen.

Track 2: Oh, yeah, yeah. Or he's constantly like, when he means cool,

Track 2: he means, oh, this would make great TV.

Track 2: Because that's the only thing he can think of.

Track 3: Right.

Track 2: I mean, all of the the running bit about them jerking off in that poor guy's trailer over and over.

Track 2: And then, you know, like the second in command FBI guy trying to not end with

Track 2: a preposition. That running gag really cracks me up.

Track 1: I love that joke.

Track 2: Yeah, it's like we this we are representatives of these United States and we

Track 2: will not end a sentence with a preposition.

Track 3: Oh, yeah. So good. But just like that great use of Robert Stack as that main FBI agent.

Track 3: Yeah, I mean, he like my generation or, you know, the collective generation

Track 3: that the three of us are kind of all on different parts of like we,

Track 3: you know, we watch some Unsolved Mysteries, I think.

Track 3: So like we just associate that guy's voice with dread and being scared and talking

Track 3: about very serious tragedies.

Track 3: And then just that he's the guy that's constantly talking about like anally violating people.

Track 1: Yeah.

Track 3: Fucking hilarious.

Track 2: And like a voice of kind of comfort and authority through tough times too.

Track 3: Yeah, totally. Yeah.

Track 1: Who plays the like the other actor who plays Bork? Do you know who that is? Oh, it's Greg Kinnear.

Track 2: Holy shit oh wow this got

Track 2: it yeah i just saw that there yeah um oh but yeah also just with the running

Track 2: gag of like this is also something i don't know if teenagers were always doing

Track 2: this or it was just highlighted more because of beavis and butthead but like

Track 2: anytime you say any word that like ripped out of context could be a dirty word and they like went oh.

Track 3: Like yeah that's so good that's.

Track 2: So true to like my junior high experience i don't know if that came from beavis

Track 2: and butthead or you know all junior hires are like this but yeah so oh what did he he says the.

Track 1: The teacher the teacher says uh what it's not you're not here to entertain us and he says oh.

Track 2: He said anus.

Track 3: Yeah where.

Track 2: I remember specifically at like you know junior high lunch table where you could

Track 2: never tell like you couldn't say the very normal thing is like oh are you gonna to go do it do it.

Track 3: You want me to you want us to do your wife you're gonna pay us i love you want us to do a guy my.

Track 1: Favorite one is when they're like why do they keep wanting to see our my unit my unit.

Track 3: Oh yeah yeah yeah yeah i mean he's like like for some reason they want to see my schlong,

Track 3: yeah uh oh my god okay so uh

Track 3: i talked about this with uh our friend britta the other

Track 3: day as i asked her what her favorite uh beavis and

Track 3: butthead quote was and i actually think it's mine too i think

Track 3: it's so funny for whatever reason it just taps into like this

Track 3: primal humor center i have but there's the part where

Track 3: they're crawling through the desert and it's just like

Track 3: like you know it's been going on for a

Track 3: while that part of the movie happens for a while before they stumble upon

Track 3: their dads um but like they're

Track 3: crawling through the desert and it's just like there's this great close

Track 3: up of of butthead and he's kind of like reaching into the foreground and he's

Track 3: like ready to give up and uh he's just like the sun sucks and it's like so fucking

Track 3: good like it's like something so deeply funny about that like if.

Track 2: You're just like exhausted you're fucking over it you're just gonna say the

Track 2: dumbest thing possible it's like man being outside is stupid Like,

Track 2: that's all you got to say. Nothing clever.

Track 3: Well, I mean, the running joke that permeates every joke in Beavis and Butthead

Track 3: is they are constantly finding themselves in, like, noteworthy or extraordinary circumstances.

Track 3: And they don't have the mental capacity to appreciate it.

Track 2: Yeah.

Track 3: And that's just that joke that is the cosmic joke of the entire, you know,

Track 3: the entire show, the entire movie, those characters just like in one,

Track 3: like, very, very economical moment.

Track 3: And it's like it is the joke of of the movie, I think.

Track 2: It's art, folks, you know, right up there with James Joyce.

Track 1: I was also thinking about that scene within the desert when he says the sun

Track 1: sucks. And I'm like, I can't believe that they wrote this and it's,

Track 1: it's just perfect. And like, it's, it's not my favorite line.

Track 1: I think Dan, I mean, you already said my favorite line, which is,

Track 1: this is a God, is this a God damn?

Track 1: Like, I don't know. Like that was just always my favorite line as a kid.

Track 1: Maybe that's just, it's hard to shake that. However, I did just learn.

Track 1: Do you know where that joke came from?

Track 2: No. No.

Track 1: Mike Judge's grandmother would tell him that joke, and he threw it in the movie.

Track 3: That's cute.

Track 2: I love that.

Track 3: That also reminds me of National Lampoon's Vacation, or is it Vegas Vacation?

Track 3: One of them, they visit the Hoover Dam, and they make the same joke like everybody does.

Track 3: Yeah, like, where can I get some damn bait?

Track 1: Yeah. Well, another thing that I just learned from IMDb was that Robert Stack

Track 1: apparently was so embarrassed that he was in this film, he paid a legal team

Track 1: to get his name out of all promotional material.

Track 1: But then later, it was like, actually, this is kind of cool.

Track 2: Oh, coward. What a coward.

Track 1: Yeah.

Track 3: Oh, God. I'm so glad he didn't die a jerk.

Track 1: Yeah. And also, another thing that I learned is that this was the record breaking.

Track 1: This movie until the time was the highest box office record for any movie that

Track 1: was released in December.

Track 3: Yeah.

Track 2: I love culture. I love what it says about all of us.

Track 1: That's just.

Track 3: Yeah. It would have been the highest grossing animated film of that year if

Track 3: it wasn't for the Hunchback of Notre Dame.

Track 1: Oh, I thought you were going to say of all time, it weren't for, like, The Lion King.

Track 2: Well, I wonder if you take, like, Disney animated features out where Beavis

Track 2: and Butthead would stack on, like, American-made cartoons and their box office.

Track 1: South Park has got to be way up there, right?

Track 3: Behind a ton of DreamWorks and Pixar movies and stuff, but yeah.

Track 3: Um, oh man, another one of the greatest, greatest lines is when,

Track 3: when he encounters Chelsea Clinton.

Track 3: Hey, I noticed you have braces. I have braces too.

Track 2: I just love the way it goes. Hey, baby. Like he sounds like fucking Elvis or something.

Track 3: Yeah. We got to see, you want to see, uh, Austin Butler as butthead.

Track 2: Oh no.

Track 1: I actually just thought of maybe the one of my other

Track 1: favorite lines in the movie and it actually like cements the idea of

Track 1: this film as like the t like the fact that the

Track 1: entire plot hinges initially like because

Track 1: they're walking around town looking for their tv and they

Track 1: steal the tv on the cart too from the school

Track 1: which is another hilarious thing oh yeah but when they arrive

Track 1: to what's the guy's name like muddy bruce willis they arrive to his hotel room

Track 1: and he goes you guys are late and he goes and beavis go or buddy goes really

Track 1: did we miss baywatch yeah and that is that's just that's just that's that's

Track 1: just it's gold it's just gold.

Track 3: Yeah or the other really great damn joke where the the sweet little old lady

Track 3: is like we're a long way from washington bob this is we're at the hoover dam

Track 3: and he goes oh well i'll be damned or.

Track 2: No the the slut slot mix up.

Track 3: Oh

Track 1: My god so good i like to play the sluts yeah.

Track 3: Oh yeah me too i'm gonna buy lots of sluts so stupid oh my god oh my god.

Track 1: Well or also when they tell what when they tell uh when they tell them his real

Track 1: their real names and they're like well i guess we'll uh we won't tell you my

Track 1: real names either because i can't believe their names are beavis and butthead.

Track 3: Right right right right or Or I just like the rant that like when Beavis finally

Track 3: reaches his breaking point on the tour bus thing and he's like,

Track 3: we never score. We're never going to score.

Track 3: Like this guy's all this dirt and he's probably scored a ton.

Track 3: And the old guy's like, oh, yeah.

Track 2: Oh, it's so funny.

Track 1: Actually, I was thinking the only like maybe the joke, it doesn't like not that

Track 1: it holds up. But when they go to the White House and there's like a bunch of

Track 1: like dignitaries from other countries and he's like still with the shirt over

Track 1: his head, he's like bungolio.

Track 1: And he's like saying it to one of these like foreign guys, like who's like repeating

Track 1: it to him, thinking it's like some like, I don't know, he doesn't realize that

Track 1: he's just some like, you know, 15 year old kid who's like high on.

Track 2: Caffeine pills and shit yeah or in very like mtv fashion that they they have

Track 2: like a basically a drug sequence in the middle of it where he eats whatever

Track 2: the fuck that is in the middle of the desert the like weird cactus thing that's a lot of fun.

Track 3: Oh yeah oh yeah a little like peyote or what have you with.

Track 2: The the white zombie.

Track 3: It goes into like super like fucked up looking almost like Ralph Bakshi-esque.

Track 2: Yeah, yeah, yeah.

Track 3: Just like pure psychedelia. That's a really, that's really fun.

Track 3: Like that's like them showing off in the animation department like the one time in the movie.

Track 1: Yeah. But you're right though. The desert scene was like pretty extended like

Track 1: while other things were happening along it.

Track 1: I think the other thing that he says, that Beavis says is like another joke in the desert.

Track 1: He's like, this sucks. It's all hot and stuff.

Track 3: Yeah.

Track 1: Like their entire like, like mantra and like personality is just describing

Track 1: things in the most like mundane like stupid way but somehow it's funny.

Track 2: I don't know maybe it's.

Track 1: Not funny to some people.

Track 2: That like that feels so true to life of like when

Track 2: you're just hanging out with like your junior high friends just like kind

Track 2: of sitting around playing video games or something like you're not spouting

Track 2: off chaucer or anything like that you're just making the most like you're trying

Track 2: to make your other idiot friends laugh so you're like saying the most like mundane

Track 2: stupid things out loud just trying to get your friend next to you go so.

Track 1: You said it actually was rated PG-13 and apparently they had to re-edit some

Track 1: of the scenes to avoid an R rating.

Track 2: Were they like boobs? Did they score?

Track 1: Well so apparently there's a scene where they're at the airport where Beavis

Track 1: and Butthead take a sip of his whiskey.

Track 2: They had to remove.

Track 1: That because it was like children drinking so.

Track 2: Well he has a beer I guess he never of actively drinks it where yeah he goes

Track 2: into the light and he's like I've got a beer oh.

Track 1: No yeah the beer yeah you're right.

Track 2: He's like well I forget it's his way but he basically is like I have a beer so we should have sex.

Track 1: The the and then so i actually didn't say it so i'm actually my favorite

Track 1: scene not like line in this in the movie is when the

Track 1: they get thrown in the trunk and they're driving like the last leg

Track 1: to washington dc and they're like playing with the jack in

Track 1: the in the trunk and they like launch the the the

Track 1: the trunk open and they're like deciding whether to jump and beavis or butthead's

Track 1: like oh yeah it'll be fine like just run like when you like to start running

Track 1: it's not that bad yeah and when they jumped off the car logic when when beavis

Track 1: gets pushed out i just literally just was laughing so fucking hard i i that

Track 1: was i was dead i was absolutely dead.

Track 2: Evan you know how you've broken both of our brains you said the word jack and both of us went oh.

Track 3: My god or.

Track 2: When they accidentally.

Track 3: Pushed the tv down the stairs.

Track 1: And.

Track 3: And they're like but that's like that was cool.

Track 1: And beavis.

Track 3: Beavis like beavis is like no it wasn't.

Track 1: And he goes uh.

Track 3: Oh yeah like they just trade being the dumber one oh like they're such they're so.

Track 1: Perfect i.

Track 3: Don't know about you.

Track 2: Guys but in my head uh beavis is the brains of the operation.

Track 3: Yeah yeah he's he's well i view them as mania and depression and so so beavis's

Track 3: brain works way faster and he like arrives at the illogical conclusions

Track 3: much more quickly than Butthead does a lot of the time but every once in a while

Track 3: Beavis is like legitimately,

Track 3: insightful and Butthead is always just stupid.

Track 2: Where it kind of reminds me, I mean you'd have to have a third character in

Track 2: but it kind of reminds me of Ed, Ed and Eddie in a way.

Track 3: I don't know Ed, Ed and Eddie.

Track 2: You never saw, oh that was my favorite joke.

Track 3: I was not a Cartoon Network kid.

Track 2: I've never actually seen it either. Oh man.

Track 1: What was the other thing I was going to... I was, like, looking through some of these ridiculous...

Track 3: We haven't quoted quite the entire movie yet.

Track 2: No. No. I do want to, like... I guess trying to pull something a little bit

Track 2: more out of this movie is, like, I was struck by, like... Like,

Track 2: we were talking about, like, the MTV of it all and, like, the...

Track 2: the sort of you know self-depreciating humor of

Track 2: people raised on mtv kind of showing off kids

Track 2: that got their brain rotted by mtv where i was

Track 2: struck by like the very like not

Track 2: millennial uh gen x like nihilism that comes

Track 2: straight from this which then come i haven't seen it by like i

Track 2: kind of know the whole shtick of like daria or like a lot

Track 2: of uh cartoons for teenagers or even

Track 2: like films and tv shows that would come out for teenagers at

Track 2: this time that like they're they're sort

Track 2: of rendered like in this state of like passive nihilism where

Track 2: like nothing matters like everything's bullshit

Track 2: like you know very it's telling that they're

Track 2: like in a texas suburb that's like particularly bland

Track 2: looking and like the sort of worldview that

Track 2: would that would you could easily fall into that

Track 2: it's like well why would i want to go outside and be around my community i'm

Track 2: in this bland ass like suburb of dallas where nothing ever fucking happens and

Track 2: there's no community here so me and my dipshit friend may as well just sit on

Track 2: the couch and rot our brains with tv because that's like all there is available

Track 2: to us and like this sort of ironic detachment that can grow out of that.

Track 3: I will i side with their hippie teacher and said well they could read.

Track 2: Yeah but they're not gonna do like they're not gonna do that you know they're

Track 2: not gonna and i remember being a kid who like watched way too much tv and that's

Track 2: like when i'd be like mom i want to keep watching spongebob it's like you have

Track 2: books upstairs i'm like books that those don't move and make me laugh,

Track 2: or or it's like oh just go outside like that was the other one too where it's

Track 2: like mom i live in the fucking suburbs there's nothing out there.

Track 1: I think that's like the the just generally like the mtv mantra and like i think

Track 1: of the like the non-cartoons they had like road rules and all these other kind

Track 1: of shows was like all very much part of that same ethos in a.

Track 2: Way like.

Track 1: It just all kind of uh,

Track 1: I lost my train of thought.

Track 2: It's all very cool. It's all very hip. It's all very detached.

Track 2: It's all very like nothing really fucking matters.

Track 3: And like those were like the original reality TV shows.

Track 1: Oh, yeah.

Track 3: Like Road Rules and the real world. And even like current reality TV,

Track 3: they still like purposely cast people that have that sort of detachment from

Track 3: anything meaningful or like anything beyond that's like the kind of the most

Track 3: like surface level character that they're trying to portray.

Track 2: Themselves as and like the sense of you know immediate gratification for their

Track 2: behavior like if it doesn't pay off immediately or serve their end within the

Track 2: confines of the show like oh my god useless behavior yeah.

Track 3: We're so fucking miserly a few minutes ago we were just quoting the fuck out

Track 3: of this movie and laughing and now what look at what we've become in our adulthood.

Track 2: Yeah i mean unfortunately our our frontal cortex has kept going well.

Track 1: It's funny dan when you were gonna it when you're like taking it like to a slightly

Track 1: serious and I thought you were

Track 1: going to actually go to like these are the leftist themes in Beavis and.

Track 2: Butthead. Oh well kind of where like it reflects

Track 2: like you know the gutting of neoliberalism where there is no community left

Track 2: there is no like there is no like social world to join in other than like watching

Track 2: TV next to your dipshit friend which like that's even more than we have today

Track 2: where you know if Beavis and Butthead got made Today,

Track 2: it would be two people watching their own feeds on TikTok that are different from one another.

Track 2: They might have similar content because they're both brain rot in the same way

Track 2: if they're sitting next to each other.

Track 2: But like, yeah, I was even thinking that it's like at least these two kids are

Track 2: sitting next to each other and having a conversation, experiencing the same

Track 2: thing at the same time. Like, we don't even have that anymore.

Track 1: Yeah, they're staring at a screen together.

Track 2: Yeah, we don't even have that.

Track 3: They're still staring at one phone together in the new series.

Track 2: It's kind of nice. But that would be weird. That's not how kids consume media.

Track 2: That's how no one consumes media on their phone. They do it individually and

Track 2: even more atomized than the process of atomization was at 30 years ago.

Track 3: I don't know. My wife and I spend an awful lot of time in bed just like sharing

Track 3: a whole bunch of like TikTok videos or YouTube videos to each other and then

Track 3: like sitting there and watching them together on the same phone and doing that back and forth.

Track 1: Well so i was just thinking so this is going to

Track 1: like pulling out a tiny thread but the

Track 1: one thing you like you're see throughout the movie is that beers and butthead

Track 1: are a bunch of like complete clowns but somehow they like avert danger and they're

Track 1: like all these things they don't get captured the whole time like somehow they're

Track 1: like on tv and they go on the nun bus instead of the you know like different

Track 1: things that like separate them constantly.

Track 3: Failing upwards full.

Track 1: Yeah exactly But then you also just think about like the cops in the movie,

Track 1: the ATF, are just complete and utter morons.

Track 1: And like nothing has changed.

Track 2: No. And, you know, I guess if you want to say there's much satire in this is

Track 2: that, you know, the immediate response to the cops every time is pull out your

Track 2: gun, check their cavities.

Track 2: Where what? Even like the, you know, the hippie type teacher is like,

Track 2: don't I have like a Miranda right?

Track 2: Like, what are you talking about? We're the cops.

Track 1: Yeah. well not just that they're like they also they were going to shoot him,

Track 1: But, like, for no, like, they don't have the thing they need.

Track 1: They could get information from him, but they're just going to kill him anyway.

Track 2: Yeah, yeah. Where, uh, the way you're describing, like, generally how Beavis

Track 2: and Butthead, like, move through this movie and succeed, it's sort of like a,

Track 2: like a more cynical view on Forrest Gump.

Track 2: Because, like, that's how Forrest

Track 2: Gump succeeds through all the movies is just by being a fucking dolt.

Track 2: and like it's one of those things where you know

Track 2: as you get older and like develop a more political consciousness where

Track 2: you you see forrest gump in a different way where it's like oh this is like

Track 2: a deeply conservative movie that basically says like don't

Track 2: think too much stay in line don't like

Track 2: you know think about radical potentials and just do what

Track 2: the american dream tells you to do and you'll be fine and like this movie

Track 2: kind of does it does the same thing but it's aware that

Track 2: that's kind of fucking dumb it's like oh these two characters that you've known

Track 2: throughout the entire tv show as just like the dumbest kids alive are wildly

Track 2: successful in this country in do in like achieving their goals and like but that's bad i.

Track 3: Mean that's the white male experience in a nutshell.

Track 2: Baby yeah just bungling your way through oh.

Track 1: Yeah i don't know i mean and so well let me ask you well i have two final maybe

Track 1: final questions like one would you recommend someone watching this and do you

Track 1: think as part of that same question like do you think,

Track 1: someone you know in their 20s would like find this funny or is it like do you

Track 1: need to have been like older i don't know like is it still funny to like to

Track 1: someone who doesn't know beers and butthead.

Track 2: Well i wonder that in like you

Track 2: know not trying to be the old like well you know they don't make movies

Track 2: like this anymore because of woke um but there's

Track 2: like there's like i feel like when i watch a

Track 2: lot of comedy and things like set for

Track 2: younger audiences or just like content in

Track 2: general now it's more the priority is like

Track 2: to make it as smooth and effortless as

Track 2: possible to consume this thing and make it like it shouldn't rock

Track 2: the boat it shouldn't um basically take

Track 2: all the edges off because it's really designed to be in the background which

Track 2: like i'm not saying beavis butthead is some subversive masterpiece

Track 2: or whatever but like its whole ethos is to

Track 2: be purposely like grotesque and

Track 2: like assaulting and like very uh

Track 2: you know to kind of like poke at you a

Track 2: little bit and like it's not like it's uh what's like i don't want to say it's

Track 2: hard to watch because it's certainly like stupid like turn your brain off kind

Track 2: of comedy but it's its brand of comedy is very much like in a almost like a

Track 2: punk rock spirit of like, fuck you for even watching this.

Track 2: Like, I hope you feel stupid watching this where that's like not really an ethos

Track 2: you see in like easily disposable content today.

Track 2: So I don't want to say it's necessarily bad.

Track 2: Good like it's not like this is something that will enrich you but it did strike

Track 2: me that this film is not uh interested in like making you feel comfortable the whole time so.

Track 1: In that way.

Track 2: I guess i'd recommend it.

Track 1: I think they don't really like i hate when i say things

Track 1: like this but they like they don't make movies like this really

Track 1: like 85 minute comedies you

Track 1: know even if it's an animated film like or 81 minutes christ it's like an hour

Track 1: 20 it's like a barely you know uh and i don't even so yeah i i would say that

Track 1: anyone should watch this if they haven't seen it before because why the hell not.

Track 3: I mean if you're if you're at

Track 3: all still like into you know

Track 3: your classic dick and fart humor go for

Track 3: it i mean it's it's 85 minutes of that i do

Track 3: think though that like modern young audiences do

Track 3: need more of a hook like they do need like an elevator pitch

Track 3: a concept that'll be like yes i want to watch that and

Track 3: this doesn't really have that this is just like watch these

Track 3: characters who we love behave

Track 3: the way that we love to see them behave like there

Track 3: isn't like a there isn't really like a hook that's gonna like if you're flipping

Track 3: through like if you're if you're used to being able to flip through endless

Track 3: possibilities of what to watch and like you know the the summary has to grab

Track 3: you enough to like give it your attention this doesn't this movie doesn't have

Track 3: that but it's on criterion channel.

Track 2: It's on criterion channel.

Track 3: Criterion channel is for the olds like us oh.

Track 1: No it's on the criterion channel they had a uh they did like.

Track 3: Probably also on canopy probably.

Track 1: Is there is an mtv um like uh what do you call it like uh,

Track 1: what do they call their little things like the programming groups

Track 1: of films that i don't know they can't think of the term at

Track 1: the moment but let me tell you how they describe the film it

Track 1: is it is like canopy so i'll

Track 1: i'll read this and then i'm curious like for any uh movie recommendations you

Track 1: have so it says mike judge's mouth-breathing metal head slacker icons peavis

Track 1: and butthead made their big screen debut in this smash hit animated feature

Track 1: that takes the series gleefully lowbrow humor to new heights of sneakily smart hilarity.

Track 1: The boys hit the road on a wild cross country journey to find their stolen television

Track 1: along the way, becoming mixed up with a murder for hire scheme when they all

Track 1: really want to get laid and rock out.

Track 2: That's perfect. I'm sold.

Track 3: There's nothing, there's no hook there though.

Track 1: No.

Track 3: Like, yeah, it's like, Hey, do you want to watch these characters be funny? Yes or no?

Track 2: Yeah.

Track 3: I mean, yeah, describe the plot but there's nothing in that plot that like you

Track 3: know that earns a watch just based on the story right yeah.

Track 1: I agree with you.

Track 2: And also the you know the the movie poster doesn't have a thumbnail of a guy

Track 2: soy facing and pointing behind him going so i don't know how anyone would want

Track 2: to watch that that's how i know they should like make it.

Track 1: Red like all those horror movies from 2024.

Track 2: That people would go see it.

Track 3: Oh, yeah. I just pulled up the IMDb page. There's a lot of cool voice cameos

Track 3: in this movie. David Letterman is one of their dads.

Track 2: Yeah, yeah, yeah.

Track 3: Toby Huss from, well, he plays Cotton Hill on King of the Hill and Khan on King of the Hill.

Track 3: And he's been in a bunch of stuff. He was in the show Halt and Catch Fire.

Track 3: He's like one of the thieves that steals their TVs. Eric Boghossian,

Track 3: acclaimed writer for the stage, whose stage play news radio became a movie,

Track 3: and he starred in the play, and he's also the star of Interview with a Vampire on AMC.

Track 3: He's in it as the ranger that's describing Old Faithful, and is like,

Track 3: yeah, every geyser emits 13,000 gallons of water, and Butthead's like, it's not even that much.

Track 2: Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah.

Track 1: And then Richard Linklater.

Track 3: Is their bus driver.

Track 1: Oh man He's in Uncut Gems right?

Track 2: Linklater?

Track 1: No Eric Boghossian.

Track 2: Oh I was like.

Track 3: I don't remember him in Uncut Gems But I believe you Yeah he's in Uncut Gems,

Track 3: His one man shows That are almost like stand up comedy And like theater With

Track 3: a capital T combined are pretty good and like those are probably just on on

Track 3: youtube and stuff but yeah uh eric bogosian is also on succession playing like

Track 3: their uh bernie sanders that's.

Track 1: Right i forgot about that.

Track 3: And uh he's a great actor he's he's fantastic in interview of the vampire there's

Track 3: a he has a lot of a lot of great voice artists in this movie.

Track 1: So what would you recommend to someone who maybe doesn't want to go as lowbrow as Beavis and Butthead?

Track 2: Well, it's unfortunate that you said didn't want to go as lowbrow.

Track 1: But you please do.

Track 2: We're keeping these brows on the floor. I was looking through like,

Track 2: what's a comedy that I just, I cannot defend.

Track 2: I have no, I have no interest in trying to say it's a good movie.

Track 2: I just watched it at the right time, and I had this on DVD, hammered it over

Track 2: and over when I was like 13.

Track 2: It is 2004's White Chicks. What a dumb, hilarious movie. Wonderful time.

Track 3: I'll see you, White Chicks, and raise you another Wayans Bros.

Track 3: masterpiece, Scary Movie 2.

Track 2: Oh, specifically, A Man of Dance.

Track 3: Oh, yeah.

Track 2: Yeah.

Track 3: Yeah, I've absolutely ran my Scary Movie 2 DVD ragged.

Track 1: All right. So this is a tough act to follow here.

Track 1: I'm going to go with a film that was released the same year as this movie, and that is Kingpin.

Track 2: Oh, yeah, that is a good one.

Track 1: I had that on DVD, and I loved it. It's so absurd.

Track 1: Probably doesn't hold up. It's been a long time since I've seen it.

Track 1: But Woody Harrelson as just like the absolute like lowest of the low in the dirt fucking bowler.

Track 1: And yeah, then you got Bill Murray, of course.

Track 2: I'm going to recommend directly to both of you. Watch some Ed, Ed and Eddie. It's good.

Track 3: Okay. Okay. I'll consider that.

Track 2: I think there's a movie too. Actually, no, I'm pretty sure there is an Ed,

Track 2: Ed and Eddie movie. But man, that what joy coming out of that movie or show and the movie.

Track 3: Earlier, I accidentally called Eric Boghossian's like kind of like star turning movie in play.

Track 3: News radio. It's called talk radio. News radio was it was a sitcom, I think.

Track 3: But Talk Radio, while we're at it, is a great movie. I think Oliver Stone directed it.

Track 2: Oh, wow.

Track 3: Let me consult the IMDb again.

Track 3: Did he? That's a great movie. And, you know, Eric Boghossian wrote it and stars in the lead role.

Track 3: And, you know, that's like the best showcase of his talent that I can think

Track 3: of that, you know, I would recommend to folks who would listen to a movie podcast.

Track 3: The movie Talk Radio.

Track 1: I don't think I've actually ever seen Talk Radio. I've seen a lot of Oliver

Track 1: Stone films, but that's one I haven't seen.

Track 2: You know, I've never seen a single Oliver Stone movie.

Track 1: Wow.

Track 3: Really?

Track 2: Yeah, a weird gap.

Track 1: There's some good ones and then some stinkers.

Track 2: Yeah, I think that's what I hear, which is why I try and, like,

Track 2: why I'm not leaping to check his stuff out.

Track 1: Yeah, just like the 80s, 80s, 80s Oliver Stone. And then, like, early 90s, like JFK.

Track 2: I gotcha, gotcha, gotcha.

Track 1: And for anyone who does like his movies, you could listen to episodes on natural-born killers.

Track 1: And we also have an episode on his not-platoon movie, and that was Salvador,

Track 1: which your mileage may vary on that film.

Track 3: Dan, you have not seen Wall Street?

Track 2: Nope. I know the big scene from it, but I have not seen it.

Track 3: Platoon?

Track 2: Nope.

Track 3: I've seen it versus larry flint sure haven't oh my.

Track 1: God natural born killers that.

Track 2: One i got i that one i've like recently been very interested in checking out.

Track 1: And any given sunday.

Track 2: Oh it's not good.

Track 1: Well no.

Track 3: I don't think it's good either.

Track 1: No it's not good i used to think it was good when i was younger oh.

Track 2: Man so if i miss the opportunity to like it that's a bummer.

Track 1: I would say if you're going to like pick a single movie to see it's probably

Track 1: platoon but then if it's not that then i like jfk but.

Track 3: Yeah jfk and platoon are probably his most acclaimed but i'll add talk radio to that.

Track 1: Yeah i'm gonna have to see that is good fun yeah that's when he was just more that's more.

Track 3: Eric bogosie that's more eric bogosian's movie than oliver stones though.

Track 1: Yeah i mean there's some other movies that he wrote too like scarface there's.

Track 2: A doc where he spends three days filming with Fidel Castro in Cuba.

Track 2: That's kind of interesting.

Track 1: Yeah, then he also does one with Putin as well.

Track 1: Oh, he also made the Snowden movie, which I have not seen.

Track 2: I thought, I think I heard it was just, like, fine.

Track 1: Yeah, I don't think it was supposed to be that great. But that,

Track 1: yeah, I've discussed on the other episodes about my feelings more deeply on Oliver Stone.

Track 1: I have some, he's an interesting man, and I think, I was actually discussing this.

Track 1: I don't think, like, the political climate of now could exist for him to make

Track 1: a movie anymore. i think it's like he can't make any more movies yeah.

Track 2: Because i like that's what i i've heard like two main different uh narratives

Track 2: about him where like basically it's like oh he's an old out of touch boomer

Track 2: and also like oh he's like a raving communist and i'm like well is it one is

Track 2: it both like what's going on here.

Track 1: He's kind of like oh gosh i'm gonna think about this we won't we won't we won't

Track 1: uh we don't we don't want to make this too highbrow here dan this is uh yeah oh.

Track 3: That's true we're so far away from beavis and butthead now we're like four degrees

Track 3: of separation from beavis and butthead.

Track 1: But if you listen to this episode uh in full you will hear many boob jokes and

Track 1: uh i guess you've already listened to it so it's too i'm gonna cut that part

Track 1: i guess it's making no sense you've already heard the boob jokes the fart jokes the score jokes but um,

Track 1: if you told me that we could make an hour plus episode about beers and butthead

Track 1: do america i would have told you you are a moron but i'm.

Track 2: Very very impressed with.

Track 1: What we did it folks we we uh you can i'm just going

Track 1: to shut the podcast down here can't go any better than

Track 1: beers and butthead do america we don't need to do any more no more andre tukarovsky

Track 1: for anyone here we've we've peaked we've peaked at uh beers and butthead do

Track 1: america but um dan and jared i appreciate your commitment to Beavis and Butt-Head to America and our,

Track 1: podcasting evening, I guess we'll come to a close.

Track 2: Oh, well, we're a little dumber for it, and I'm glad about that.

Track 3: I just need to say a couple more words before we go.

Track 1: Oh, please.

Track 2: Which ones?

Track 3: Butt cheeks.

Track 2: Unfortunately, that started as an ironic laugh and just turned into a real one.

Track 1: Oh, boy.

Track 3: Yeah, and boobs. I want to say that one more time boobs.

Track 1: The the the ass what is it like what is it the thing with the donkey like the

Track 1: poops coming out of the ass of the ass.

Track 2: Yeah it's oh my god it was so fucking stupid.

Track 1: But uh if if you uh were able to listen to us talk about beavis and butthead

Track 1: you will also like listening to uh dan and jared talk about more serious films

Track 1: on concessions and also perhaps left and perhaps also on left of the projector.

Track 1: Thank you both for being here today.

Track 2: It was a blast.

Track 3: Thanks for having us. Please invite us back again, and we will do the same on concessions.

Track 1: Yes, we will do something more serious. I promise you. I don't think you can

Track 1: go any lower than views on my head.

Track 2: I was like, low bar to jump over there.

Track 3: That's true. We'll try to find even lower.

Track 2: Even dumber.

Track 1: We'll do biodome. Is that what you're saying?

Track 3: Yeah, we'll find something lower for you next time you're on concessions.

Track 2: Where we won't do dumb and dumber, we'll do dumb and dumber-er.

Track 1: Which is like just.

Track 2: A bad movie.

Track 1: I'm not gonna say that son.

Track 3: Of the mask.

Track 2: So like not only stupid but just objectively bad.

Track 1: We'll do we'll do yes man which is like the opposite of liar liar but uh you've

Track 1: all been listening to left of the projector and we'll catch you all next time.