1 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:09,920 Hey, this is Shaun with the award-winning GoTennis! Podcast powered by Signature Tennis. 2 00:00:09,920 --> 00:00:15,080 Check us out at LetsGoTennis.com and we invite you to learn more about the award by following 3 00:00:15,080 --> 00:00:16,960 the link in the show notes. 4 00:00:16,960 --> 00:00:20,520 And as you're listening to this, please look in your podcast app where to leave a review 5 00:00:20,520 --> 00:00:22,120 and do that for us. 6 00:00:22,120 --> 00:00:24,880 We would love to earn your five-star reviews. 7 00:00:24,880 --> 00:00:28,360 And now let's get into our recent conversation with Page Love. 8 00:00:28,360 --> 00:00:31,480 Page is a registered and licensed dietician. 9 00:00:31,480 --> 00:00:38,000 She works with college teams as well as both professional tours, the ATP and the WTA. 10 00:00:38,000 --> 00:00:41,360 She offers some amazing advice for every tennis player. 11 00:00:41,360 --> 00:00:47,000 Have a listen and let us know what you think. 12 00:00:47,000 --> 00:00:50,600 Who are you and why do we care? 13 00:00:50,600 --> 00:00:51,600 I am Page Love. 14 00:00:51,600 --> 00:00:58,240 I am a sport dietician, but I'm also a registered and licensed dietician, which is important 15 00:00:58,240 --> 00:01:00,640 as tennis players seek their nutrition advice. 16 00:01:00,640 --> 00:01:05,720 You'd want that person to be qualified in the field, just like we have certified tennis 17 00:01:05,720 --> 00:01:07,200 teaching press. 18 00:01:07,200 --> 00:01:11,240 We want to do the same thing in the nutrition area too. 19 00:01:11,240 --> 00:01:13,200 I own my own consulting business. 20 00:01:13,200 --> 00:01:20,040 I consult with a lot of tennis players, college teams, and both professional tours, the 21 00:01:20,040 --> 00:01:25,320 only registered dietician sport dietician for the ATP tour internationally. 22 00:01:25,320 --> 00:01:28,520 I'm one of three dieticians for the WTA tour. 23 00:01:28,520 --> 00:01:34,240 I actually travel for both tours, do on-site tournament work, grew up in Atlanta playing 24 00:01:34,240 --> 00:01:35,240 junior tennis. 25 00:01:35,240 --> 00:01:37,440 I play college tennis for Baylor. 26 00:01:37,440 --> 00:01:40,560 I still play, but I have to say, you guys might not like this. 27 00:01:40,560 --> 00:01:42,360 I'm also playing some pickleball. 28 00:01:42,360 --> 00:01:43,880 It's helping my tennis. 29 00:01:43,880 --> 00:01:47,240 I'm telling you, it's helping my reaction time and my movement. 30 00:01:47,240 --> 00:01:51,320 But I love my records forths and I still participate. 31 00:01:51,320 --> 00:01:55,200 I also write a regular column for Altenette News. 32 00:01:55,200 --> 00:02:00,880 As people hear what we talk about today, if you're interested in reading more about some 33 00:02:00,880 --> 00:02:05,800 tennis-very consumer-oriented sport nutrition information, there's lots on the Alta website. 34 00:02:05,800 --> 00:02:08,720 They catalog everything that we've put up there. 35 00:02:08,720 --> 00:02:11,240 Lots of nutrition topics related to tennis. 36 00:02:11,240 --> 00:02:12,240 I love it. 37 00:02:12,240 --> 00:02:14,320 Bobby, I'm going to let you jump in early. 38 00:02:14,320 --> 00:02:19,120 I'm going to encourage you to jump in early because you know Paige from back in the day, 39 00:02:19,120 --> 00:02:20,120 should I say? 40 00:02:20,120 --> 00:02:25,440 Paige and I were mixed doubles partners back in the day for a couple of successful seasons. 41 00:02:25,440 --> 00:02:28,480 Now, she continues to play. 42 00:02:28,480 --> 00:02:33,080 I think I pretty much retired as her as my mixed doubles partner. 43 00:02:33,080 --> 00:02:39,560 We had a lot of success at 003, a lot of success at 002, and then we went to 001 during the 44 00:02:39,560 --> 00:02:42,600 summer and that was Waterloo. 45 00:02:42,600 --> 00:02:44,800 We were all in our mid-30s. 46 00:02:44,800 --> 00:02:49,400 A couple of people made the mistake again in relationships. 47 00:02:49,400 --> 00:02:53,800 The team wasn't as much fun as it was when we started, but we had a couple really good 48 00:02:53,800 --> 00:02:54,800 seasons. 49 00:02:54,800 --> 00:02:56,680 We had quite a wild following. 50 00:02:56,680 --> 00:02:57,680 We had a gentleman. 51 00:02:57,680 --> 00:03:01,760 He remember Dave Snyder, Paige, the guy he played on a different team, but he liked us 52 00:03:01,760 --> 00:03:02,760 so much. 53 00:03:02,760 --> 00:03:05,680 He would play his match and then come join us because we played out of it. 54 00:03:05,680 --> 00:03:09,960 A department complex, our first year, and they let us have access to the pool. 55 00:03:09,960 --> 00:03:13,800 He had literally a mobile, bloody, merry kit. 56 00:03:13,800 --> 00:03:19,480 I mean, in the pool, they floated and it post-match, this is what we did. 57 00:03:19,480 --> 00:03:21,360 Like you said, Paige and I had a lot of success. 58 00:03:21,360 --> 00:03:26,640 Now, I'm not going to rat Paige out and say, "Probably, we didn't have the best out of food 59 00:03:26,640 --> 00:03:29,600 next to it, but that's for another time." 60 00:03:29,600 --> 00:03:32,920 That is something I do address in those out to articles. 61 00:03:32,920 --> 00:03:37,880 The right kinds of food to have for the team play, but I will say the bloody merry mix actually 62 00:03:37,880 --> 00:03:40,960 is decent sodium recovery. 63 00:03:40,960 --> 00:03:43,480 Not the alcohol, but the bloody merry mix. 64 00:03:43,480 --> 00:03:45,760 Tomato part is actually excellent for recovery. 65 00:03:45,760 --> 00:03:49,960 I'm pretty sure they would not throw it. 66 00:03:49,960 --> 00:03:50,960 Yeah, that's it. 67 00:03:50,960 --> 00:03:53,440 Bloody marries to recover from just drink the mix. 68 00:03:53,440 --> 00:03:58,680 Virgin, Virgin, Bloody marries, or just tomatoes. 69 00:03:58,680 --> 00:03:59,680 There we go. 70 00:03:59,680 --> 00:04:01,000 There's the real advice. 71 00:04:01,000 --> 00:04:05,560 Then, the real question here is, you've got connections on to or what everybody wants to 72 00:04:05,560 --> 00:04:06,560 know. 73 00:04:06,560 --> 00:04:09,480 Do you know Coco Gough? 74 00:04:09,480 --> 00:04:13,800 I have met her and I have worked with her briefly. 75 00:04:13,800 --> 00:04:19,080 We have very, I would say they're not, you know, sit down for two hours and talk to a player. 76 00:04:19,080 --> 00:04:23,000 When you're on site, I'm in the training room, so it's brief interactions. 77 00:04:23,000 --> 00:04:29,200 One of the roles that the dieticians serves is we review quarterly blood work. 78 00:04:29,200 --> 00:04:36,560 We also prescribe supplementation based on low-sir highs and people's blood work, also medical 79 00:04:36,560 --> 00:04:38,160 issues that they're reporting. 80 00:04:38,160 --> 00:04:42,360 The main interactions with the players are in reviewing their diet and blood work at that 81 00:04:42,360 --> 00:04:43,680 time. 82 00:04:43,680 --> 00:04:46,680 Also addressing if they've had heat illness, that's the biggest issue, obviously, on the 83 00:04:46,680 --> 00:04:47,680 tour. 84 00:04:47,680 --> 00:04:52,520 In fact, they target us at hot tournaments so that we can help in the moment when they're 85 00:04:52,520 --> 00:04:53,520 having heat illness. 86 00:04:53,520 --> 00:04:59,720 So, I've had interactions with she and many on these kinds of topics. 87 00:04:59,720 --> 00:05:03,200 Just keeping the girls healthy, it's kind of cool to watch what's happening on the women's 88 00:05:03,200 --> 00:05:09,840 tour. Their sport nutrition, sport medicine program is quite extensive and we've seen that 89 00:05:09,840 --> 00:05:13,920 the women are staying healthier and they're not getting as run down. 90 00:05:13,920 --> 00:05:16,320 They're not getting as many colds. 91 00:05:16,320 --> 00:05:20,960 We're helping them maintain more normal blood levels of key nutrients like vitamin D and 92 00:05:20,960 --> 00:05:24,560 iron, which impact their immune system and their energy. 93 00:05:24,560 --> 00:05:29,800 It's really neat to be able to look at the big picture and provide them what they need. 94 00:05:29,800 --> 00:05:34,160 Like I was saying, with the college teams, I go with the players to eat even in the players 95 00:05:34,160 --> 00:05:40,240 I only have them get an optimum sport nutrition meal sometimes before or after. 96 00:05:40,240 --> 00:05:44,240 So pre-play, post-play, I'm dealing a lot with that. 97 00:05:44,240 --> 00:05:50,080 Pre-match post-match nutrition as well as their hydration needs and around the heat, all 98 00:05:50,080 --> 00:05:52,080 my sense of it. 99 00:05:52,080 --> 00:05:55,000 Love it and that's got to be such a fun thing to do. 100 00:05:55,000 --> 00:06:00,880 But I'm picturing you with a notebook flipping through blood work. 101 00:06:00,880 --> 00:06:04,680 Okay, Coco, here's your blood work and Alex, here's your blood work. 102 00:06:04,680 --> 00:06:06,200 Taylor, this is ridiculous. 103 00:06:06,200 --> 00:06:08,560 Come over here and talk to me. 104 00:06:08,560 --> 00:06:09,560 What does that even look like? 105 00:06:09,560 --> 00:06:12,800 You gave us a little glimpse just a second ago, but how is that? 106 00:06:12,800 --> 00:06:19,320 The women, we do a lot of our work very out of sight like in the training room and sometimes 107 00:06:19,320 --> 00:06:21,120 we'll have a sightly private area. 108 00:06:21,120 --> 00:06:25,200 You just write there in the training room, honestly sometimes right when they're receiving physical 109 00:06:25,200 --> 00:06:28,200 therapy because their time is so limited. 110 00:06:28,200 --> 00:06:31,840 So the dietitians are placed in a visual place. 111 00:06:31,840 --> 00:06:37,520 Remember when they'll see us to think, "Yeah, I need to talk to you about blah, blah, blah." 112 00:06:37,520 --> 00:06:40,080 Or "I need to talk to you about blah, blah, blah." 113 00:06:40,080 --> 00:06:44,560 So we will get to visually be there while they're getting medical care. 114 00:06:44,560 --> 00:06:50,760 It's a very team treatment orientation for them with the men because I'm not in the training 115 00:06:50,760 --> 00:06:51,760 room. 116 00:06:51,760 --> 00:06:53,080 I'm usually out in the players' arms. 117 00:06:53,080 --> 00:06:59,120 A tournament, I go to tournaments a lot for the men in the US, Miami Open and DC Open, 118 00:06:59,120 --> 00:07:01,960 both because heat illness can be an issue. 119 00:07:01,960 --> 00:07:08,200 But I'm positioned in the players' lounge and I do actual heat stress testing. 120 00:07:08,200 --> 00:07:13,880 I test their saliva to determine, are they well hydrated before they go on the court so 121 00:07:13,880 --> 00:07:15,720 they can make adjustments right away. 122 00:07:15,720 --> 00:07:19,960 The concentration of our saliva tells us about how well hydrated we are. 123 00:07:19,960 --> 00:07:25,040 I do pre-impose match weights with a pretty sophisticated scale that looks at total body 124 00:07:25,040 --> 00:07:30,640 water shifts so they can know how much water weight they've lost in their sweat so that they 125 00:07:30,640 --> 00:07:32,360 can immediately rehydrate. 126 00:07:32,360 --> 00:07:37,360 They can also, obviously, before, if it's showing any levels of dehydration, we can encourage 127 00:07:37,360 --> 00:07:39,520 them to appropriately drink. 128 00:07:39,520 --> 00:07:45,120 I also sweat tests the men on the spot, which means they, I give them a patch that they 129 00:07:45,120 --> 00:07:50,200 wear during their warm-ups before matches in the heat and they bring it back. 130 00:07:50,200 --> 00:07:57,400 I squeeze out the sweat into a test tube into a little tray and I have a device that touches 131 00:07:57,400 --> 00:08:02,760 a computer ship that touches the sweat and it can tell specifically the sodium loss per 132 00:08:02,760 --> 00:08:03,760 hour. 133 00:08:03,760 --> 00:08:09,160 And now the sport nutrition has gotten so sophisticated that we can then prescribe, "Okay, you need to do 134 00:08:09,160 --> 00:08:14,520 this much of this beverage that contains this amount of sodium to keep up with the rate 135 00:08:14,520 --> 00:08:17,000 that you're losing salt in your sweat." 136 00:08:17,000 --> 00:08:23,080 Some of the men have sweat rates upwards of 2000 milligrams of sodium loss per hour and 137 00:08:23,080 --> 00:08:29,880 the US dietary recommendations for sodium low end are 2000 milligrams per the whole day, 138 00:08:29,880 --> 00:08:37,840 but they're losing 2000 milligrams per hour in the court. 139 00:08:37,840 --> 00:08:38,920 I don't know if you all have notice. 140 00:08:38,920 --> 00:08:44,480 There's all kinds of electrolyte powders and formulas and pills and salt sticks and all 141 00:08:44,480 --> 00:08:45,480 kinds of stuff. 142 00:08:45,480 --> 00:08:51,560 So the insurgents of the high sodium products has really matched the science identifying 143 00:08:51,560 --> 00:08:54,480 that increased sodium losses. 144 00:08:54,480 --> 00:08:58,320 I think that pretty much answers the "Why are you unique?" question that we usually have 145 00:08:58,320 --> 00:09:01,320 because it's really great information. 146 00:09:01,320 --> 00:09:08,160 The only other off-script question I have is Bobby, are you willing to share your post-coaching, 147 00:09:08,160 --> 00:09:13,040 post-on-court meal with Paige to say, "Hey, is this the right thing I should be doing 148 00:09:13,040 --> 00:09:15,040 after being out in the sun?" 149 00:09:15,040 --> 00:09:19,920 No, but I do want to say, I mean, I think that's a great way to look at it because I, you 150 00:09:19,920 --> 00:09:25,960 know, as we've gotten older and as the tennis player in Atlanta has gotten older, I, my limited 151 00:09:25,960 --> 00:09:30,560 medical background, which keeping them on, I was pretty long, not pre-med, I think, you 152 00:09:30,560 --> 00:09:37,200 know, there's been a, it seems like a more, a lot more what I call the calf injuries over 153 00:09:37,200 --> 00:09:42,560 the last 20 years where, you know, 25 years ago, people weren't popping calves. 154 00:09:42,560 --> 00:09:50,440 I think it's a combination of where older playing and the other side is we don't hydrate properly. 155 00:09:50,440 --> 00:09:55,760 So if you have a 9 a.m. or a 1 p.m., depending on what male or woman, when should you start, 156 00:09:55,760 --> 00:10:01,840 what year, when should the alpha tennis player start hydrating to be ready for that match? 157 00:10:01,840 --> 00:10:05,720 Not, you know, I'm going to eat a banana, you know, the old Michael Chang eat a banana at 158 00:10:05,720 --> 00:10:08,840 10 a.m. in the middle of my match because that's going to do something. 159 00:10:08,840 --> 00:10:12,120 That might be alive, but that's not helping you with your hydration. 160 00:10:12,120 --> 00:10:15,200 Which, when should you realistically begin to hydrate? 161 00:10:15,200 --> 00:10:21,320 Well, what, what you just described as the typical mentality, I would say even, even on the 162 00:10:21,320 --> 00:10:26,560 ATP tour, I'm always a little surprised that some of the guys are modally dehydrated when 163 00:10:26,560 --> 00:10:29,680 we do these hydration tests and this is, you know, a couple hours before they're going 164 00:10:29,680 --> 00:10:31,160 to be playing. 165 00:10:31,160 --> 00:10:35,400 So that's when people start thinking about it, when they start thinking about their hydration 166 00:10:35,400 --> 00:10:36,720 and that's really too late. 167 00:10:36,720 --> 00:10:48,480 I mean, it really needs to be a daily routine. 168 00:10:48,480 --> 00:10:54,760 And then, yes, and then between the two to four hours before we want to be additionally 169 00:10:54,760 --> 00:10:59,040 pre-hydrating, even with electrolyte sources if you're in the heat. 170 00:10:59,040 --> 00:11:03,600 And then leading up to match play, you bring down the volume, but I would say on average, 171 00:11:03,600 --> 00:11:12,440 we really want to be doing at least 16 ounces per hour going backwards leading up to match 172 00:11:12,440 --> 00:11:13,440 play in the heat. 173 00:11:13,440 --> 00:11:17,040 Now, it can be half of that when you're playing in a colder environment and you're not sweating 174 00:11:17,040 --> 00:11:21,120 as much where I feel like players have really gotten the messages or on court hydration because 175 00:11:21,120 --> 00:11:24,800 obviously they're thinking about how much to drink on court and we really recommend about 176 00:11:24,800 --> 00:11:27,720 four to eight ounces every 15 to 20 minutes. 177 00:11:27,720 --> 00:11:34,880 And then tennis, we have the perfect opportunity, unlike pickleball, to stop at the changeovers 178 00:11:34,880 --> 00:11:37,680 and drink adequately. 179 00:11:37,680 --> 00:11:42,000 And you know, if you're not drinking at a changeover, that's something you got to really 180 00:11:42,000 --> 00:11:43,680 jump on, take advantage of it. 181 00:11:43,680 --> 00:11:47,800 And I really encourage having a little bit of water and a little bit of your electrolyte 182 00:11:47,800 --> 00:11:51,920 beverage, or sport beverage pending what you're drinking and what your needs are given 183 00:11:51,920 --> 00:11:52,920 the heat. 184 00:11:52,920 --> 00:11:58,920 So, you know, half a cup to a cup every 15 to 20 minutes to keep up with even low sweat rate 185 00:11:58,920 --> 00:11:59,920 levels. 186 00:11:59,920 --> 00:12:04,240 Most players don't keep up with that, so thus the need to know, okay, how much have I lost 187 00:12:04,240 --> 00:12:05,240 in a match? 188 00:12:05,240 --> 00:12:09,000 And of course, a lot of people would be like, great, I lost some weight, but when you've lost 189 00:12:09,000 --> 00:12:13,360 it in that short time period, that is simply sweat loss. 190 00:12:13,360 --> 00:12:16,840 And if you're going to play another match, you know, if a player in an tournament has 191 00:12:16,840 --> 00:12:21,240 a singles one time and it doubles out another time, you want to be fully rehydrated by the 192 00:12:21,240 --> 00:12:24,120 time you're getting back out to that second match. 193 00:12:24,120 --> 00:12:28,720 Another very simple thing, a good takeaway on this discussion that anyone can do is just 194 00:12:28,720 --> 00:12:29,760 look at your urine color. 195 00:12:29,760 --> 00:12:33,640 We are always asking, "Are athletes looking at urine color?" 196 00:12:33,640 --> 00:12:40,320 In the WTA locker room stalls, we have the urine color chart, and it goes from clear 197 00:12:40,320 --> 00:12:45,800 all the way down to a dark brown with levels of hydration based on your urine color. 198 00:12:45,800 --> 00:12:51,880 And the goal is a light yellow, we call it lemonade yellow color. 199 00:12:51,880 --> 00:12:53,760 If you're clear, you're over hydrating. 200 00:12:53,760 --> 00:12:57,880 So we want a little bit of concentration, that's a normal color. 201 00:12:57,880 --> 00:13:02,200 And if it's that dark, dark yellow, then you're becoming dehydrated. 202 00:13:02,200 --> 00:13:05,640 And we expect players when they come off of the court to be a little bit dehydrated and 203 00:13:05,640 --> 00:13:11,640 then to drink accordingly to bring that back up to the appropriate hydration level, that 204 00:13:11,640 --> 00:13:12,640 light yellow. 205 00:13:12,640 --> 00:13:18,720 So just checking, urine color can be a great way to be aware of your hydration status. 206 00:13:18,720 --> 00:13:21,960 There you go, that's good to know right there. 207 00:13:21,960 --> 00:13:26,040 And going back to what you said, Sean, what would you, how long before a match page and 208 00:13:26,040 --> 00:13:28,200 what would you say would be, I'm not out of it. 209 00:13:28,200 --> 00:13:33,120 I guess my first point I was saying is you don't want to just be thinking about right before 210 00:13:33,120 --> 00:13:34,120 the match. 211 00:13:34,120 --> 00:13:40,240 You want to keep your daily hydration on schedule, be evenly hydrating throughout the day, 212 00:13:40,240 --> 00:13:44,320 reaching out for those caffeinated beverages closer to tour. 213 00:13:44,320 --> 00:13:49,960 There's often energy drink sponsors that want to sponsor a lot of these tour events. 214 00:13:49,960 --> 00:13:54,360 And we just try to keep those energy drinks as far away from the players as we can. 215 00:13:54,360 --> 00:13:56,640 We can't stop them from giving it to the consumers. 216 00:13:56,640 --> 00:14:00,520 But obviously we don't want high caffeine any time close to the match because that's a 217 00:14:00,520 --> 00:14:01,520 diuretic. 218 00:14:01,520 --> 00:14:04,040 It causes you to pee out, mark fluid. 219 00:14:04,040 --> 00:14:10,120 So the four hours before with good hydration practice is leading up to that stable in 220 00:14:10,120 --> 00:14:11,920 the training diet. 221 00:14:11,920 --> 00:14:16,080 And then that four hours before trying to get the one to two cup range, ideally the bottle 222 00:14:16,080 --> 00:14:21,320 of water per hour, the regular half liter bottle of water per hour leading up to that match 223 00:14:21,320 --> 00:14:22,320 time. 224 00:14:22,320 --> 00:14:27,400 So now take it where would what's the time for food intake and what would be a good pre match 225 00:14:27,400 --> 00:14:28,400 meal? 226 00:14:28,400 --> 00:14:33,400 Well, in the ideal situation, you know, but you know, attendance is like an attorney. 227 00:14:33,400 --> 00:14:36,880 You don't really know when you're going to get on because you're waiting for players matches 228 00:14:36,880 --> 00:14:37,880 to finish. 229 00:14:37,880 --> 00:14:44,320 That's definitely what happens in the pro world, ideally three hours before to allow adequate 230 00:14:44,320 --> 00:14:45,320 digestion time. 231 00:14:45,320 --> 00:14:49,840 You want a high carbohydrate meal, a little bit of protein, lower fat. 232 00:14:49,840 --> 00:14:54,640 You want it to be fuels that are going to quickly provide fuel for the player, capping 233 00:14:54,640 --> 00:15:00,640 off energy from their eating from the previous day and that morning. 234 00:15:00,640 --> 00:15:05,080 So if it's a breakfast meal, something like oatmeal and toast and an egg and fruit would 235 00:15:05,080 --> 00:15:06,480 be a great meal. 236 00:15:06,480 --> 00:15:11,960 If it's a lunch meal on the tour, I would say pasta is still one of the most popular meals. 237 00:15:11,960 --> 00:15:17,640 A pasta or rice base that's taking up half of the plate, maybe a quarter of the plate 238 00:15:17,640 --> 00:15:21,360 in a protein, in a quarter of the plate in a light cook vegetable. 239 00:15:21,360 --> 00:15:23,960 You don't want to do a lot of big salad meals before you play. 240 00:15:23,960 --> 00:15:25,520 That doesn't give you energy. 241 00:15:25,520 --> 00:15:28,480 Even if you're watching your way, you're going to go on the court with low energy. 242 00:15:28,480 --> 00:15:32,920 You don't want to do heavy protein, you know, in these days with the popularity of keto 243 00:15:32,920 --> 00:15:35,520 and paleo, that doesn't work for tennis. 244 00:15:35,520 --> 00:15:41,000 I did a whole extensive research article on why these high protein low carb diets do not 245 00:15:41,000 --> 00:15:42,000 work for the tennis player. 246 00:15:42,000 --> 00:15:44,360 Tennis is anaerobic. 247 00:15:44,360 --> 00:15:45,840 Lots of short power. 248 00:15:45,840 --> 00:15:47,480 And a road moves on a court. 249 00:15:47,480 --> 00:15:49,360 What fuel set is carbohydrate? 250 00:15:49,360 --> 00:15:53,880 If you're on a low carb diet, you're not going to make it to the third set at the same energy 251 00:15:53,880 --> 00:15:55,840 level you started off with. 252 00:15:55,840 --> 00:15:58,520 You are going to be draining the tank pretty quickly. 253 00:15:58,520 --> 00:16:04,440 So complex carbohydrates, carbying it up with things like rice, pasta, starchy vegetables, 254 00:16:04,440 --> 00:16:07,600 corn, peas, beans, bowl meals are great. 255 00:16:07,600 --> 00:16:12,520 I love a bowl meal for a tennis player, but not doubling protein. 256 00:16:12,520 --> 00:16:14,120 So I have a 9 AM match. 257 00:16:14,120 --> 00:16:18,320 We're focused, I mean, mostly about social tennis, right? 258 00:16:18,320 --> 00:16:23,480 So the tour players already know, hopefully, what you know because you've told them. 259 00:16:23,480 --> 00:16:27,520 But the people listening to this podcast, it's probably not cocoa herself. 260 00:16:27,520 --> 00:16:32,760 But somebody with a 9 AM match, are you telling me I got to have breakfast at 6 AM? 261 00:16:32,760 --> 00:16:40,280 Well, if you don't get up early, if you're not an early person, then you need to volume decrease. 262 00:16:40,280 --> 00:16:43,240 So here's the on the run choice. 263 00:16:43,240 --> 00:16:48,520 Sean would be something like a cliff energy bar in a banana and you know, you're one to 264 00:16:48,520 --> 00:16:51,040 do bottles of water, something like that. 265 00:16:51,040 --> 00:16:56,040 Or what I like to remind people with bars is think about the food equivalent of a bar. 266 00:16:56,040 --> 00:16:57,880 A cliff bar is like a bagel and a bar. 267 00:16:57,880 --> 00:17:00,840 I'd rather you have the food. 268 00:17:00,840 --> 00:17:03,560 I'd rather you have the bagel with maybe a little bit of peanut butter to give you a little 269 00:17:03,560 --> 00:17:10,680 bit of protein, banana for some quick energy and potassium and then the water for your hydration. 270 00:17:10,680 --> 00:17:13,640 So if I'm in, let's say 730, I can be in the car at 8. 271 00:17:13,640 --> 00:17:15,600 I'm driving to my match by 9. 272 00:17:15,600 --> 00:17:17,600 I can have my breakfast at 730. 273 00:17:17,600 --> 00:17:20,200 Yeah, I was told that breakfast right there. 274 00:17:20,200 --> 00:17:26,440 But I will say the disclaimers, each person has unique gastric emptying times. 275 00:17:26,440 --> 00:17:31,000 Some people who tend to be nervous might need more time and other people who are used to 276 00:17:31,000 --> 00:17:35,520 eating closer to their activity time may tolerate a shorter window. 277 00:17:35,520 --> 00:17:39,000 The ideal window for a full meal would be 2 to 3 hours. 278 00:17:39,000 --> 00:17:45,600 A lot of people can tolerate a high carbohydrate, small meal like that within one to one and 279 00:17:45,600 --> 00:17:46,600 a half hours before. 280 00:17:46,600 --> 00:17:51,560 Yeah, we all love that tennis player that shows up and you get warmed up and they're like, 281 00:17:51,560 --> 00:17:54,080 "Oh, I'm going to go to the bathroom real quick." 282 00:17:54,080 --> 00:17:55,080 Really? 283 00:17:55,080 --> 00:17:56,080 Now? 284 00:17:56,080 --> 00:17:57,080 I'm going to get it. 285 00:17:57,080 --> 00:18:00,240 We can't really control it, but you didn't put any thought into this before. 286 00:18:00,240 --> 00:18:02,240 And the runners were about runners' trots. 287 00:18:02,240 --> 00:18:03,760 I don't know if there's a term for tennis. 288 00:18:03,760 --> 00:18:07,720 We could call it tennis trots. 289 00:18:07,720 --> 00:18:11,240 There's a term for it, but we won't use it on this pocket. 290 00:18:11,240 --> 00:18:13,240 I just thought it was part of the ladies warm up. 291 00:18:13,240 --> 00:18:14,240 Okay, we're done. 292 00:18:14,240 --> 00:18:16,040 We need to use the restroom before we can play. 293 00:18:16,040 --> 00:18:17,040 Okay. 294 00:18:17,040 --> 00:18:19,040 It's just every time, right? 295 00:18:19,040 --> 00:18:20,040 Every time. 296 00:18:20,040 --> 00:18:21,040 Okay. 297 00:18:21,040 --> 00:18:22,040 Okay. 298 00:18:22,040 --> 00:18:26,120 So, we've covered hydration, we've covered nutrition from a meal perspective. 299 00:18:26,120 --> 00:18:27,800 We've missed anything, Paige. 300 00:18:27,800 --> 00:18:32,280 What else do you have for our audience that can really be helpful from an actionable advice 301 00:18:32,280 --> 00:18:33,280 perspective? 302 00:18:33,280 --> 00:18:36,280 And Sean, kind of, I think it's covering nutrition. 303 00:18:36,280 --> 00:18:37,280 Uncourt nutrition. 304 00:18:37,280 --> 00:18:43,960 Don't forget it's okay to have portable, little, easy to digest carbide resources in your 305 00:18:43,960 --> 00:18:44,960 racquet bag. 306 00:18:44,960 --> 00:18:48,640 So that would be things like, I recommend the little hunter-cali pretzels because what 307 00:18:48,640 --> 00:18:53,960 you can digest is plain bland carbs and if they're salty, even better. 308 00:18:53,960 --> 00:18:58,640 Of course, the higher carbohydrate energy bars, so that would be things like cliff or 309 00:18:58,640 --> 00:18:59,640 Bobo. 310 00:18:59,640 --> 00:19:02,160 I really like another brand called ProBar. 311 00:19:02,160 --> 00:19:03,160 That's all natural. 312 00:19:03,160 --> 00:19:05,400 It's almost like a trail mix in a bar. 313 00:19:05,400 --> 00:19:10,320 So having those kind of things in your bag, I also am a fan of energy chews, which have 314 00:19:10,320 --> 00:19:15,800 a little bit of starch and solution with electrolytes in what's like a gummy chew. 315 00:19:15,800 --> 00:19:19,680 These are used in a lot of sports, but those are great on a tennis court, too, particularly 316 00:19:19,680 --> 00:19:24,520 going into a third set when you're feeling like a sport beverage is not enough energy and 317 00:19:24,520 --> 00:19:28,680 you're kind of hitting a low, but you don't feel like you can stomach solid food. 318 00:19:28,680 --> 00:19:30,480 You don't feel like you could stomach a bar. 319 00:19:30,480 --> 00:19:33,720 Then the energy chews are easier to digest. 320 00:19:33,720 --> 00:19:35,880 And what's very similar to those are gels. 321 00:19:35,880 --> 00:19:40,640 You'll see a lot of players on the tour squeezing gels and these are primarily high carbohydrate 322 00:19:40,640 --> 00:19:45,520 solutions, which have a little starch and solution, very much like the chew. 323 00:19:45,520 --> 00:19:49,960 It's more viscous, but with both of those, you have to make sure that you're drinking water 324 00:19:49,960 --> 00:19:53,640 or that it just kind of glons up and up or gets. 325 00:19:53,640 --> 00:19:57,120 So you want to make it available, drinking your water and sport beverage with it. 326 00:19:57,120 --> 00:19:59,760 So it dilutes it down to make cities easier to digest. 327 00:19:59,760 --> 00:20:00,760 Got it. 328 00:20:00,760 --> 00:20:05,600 And Bobie reminded us of the question, what should Bobie be eating after he comes off 329 00:20:05,600 --> 00:20:06,600 the court? 330 00:20:06,600 --> 00:20:07,600 All right. 331 00:20:07,600 --> 00:20:12,320 So that's recovery nutrition and what a lot of players forget to do is to get a good 332 00:20:12,320 --> 00:20:13,560 quick. 333 00:20:13,560 --> 00:20:18,180 And with post-hydrating, we kind of talked about important is to pick up for the sweat 334 00:20:18,180 --> 00:20:19,180 losses. 335 00:20:19,180 --> 00:20:23,080 So continuing to drink your water and sport beverage to continue to post-hydrate because 336 00:20:23,080 --> 00:20:25,000 we're still sweating and cooling down. 337 00:20:25,000 --> 00:20:28,720 But then as soon as you feel like you're able to stomach something more solid, trying 338 00:20:28,720 --> 00:20:33,920 to get a very easy to digest protein source chocolate milk is a great choice. 339 00:20:33,920 --> 00:20:40,160 So grabbing a chocolate milk, having a little bit of a protein type bar at that time. 340 00:20:40,160 --> 00:20:45,760 So that would be like a cliff builder bar or a protein plus power bar or even a nut based 341 00:20:45,760 --> 00:20:49,360 bar would give you like an Rx bar would give you some protein. 342 00:20:49,360 --> 00:20:52,760 So you just want a quick digestible form of protein. 343 00:20:52,760 --> 00:20:59,340 Is there an liquid form or an a solid but portable easy to quickly eat form? 344 00:20:59,340 --> 00:21:00,680 And then trying to get a good meal. 345 00:21:00,680 --> 00:21:05,360 So this is back to Bobie's, I don't know what he's eating, but trying to replicate the 346 00:21:05,360 --> 00:21:09,440 fuel usage in the meal choices on the back end. 347 00:21:09,440 --> 00:21:12,160 So we still need replenish carbohydrates. 348 00:21:12,160 --> 00:21:15,360 We can handle a little bit more protein at that point because we're going into a resting 349 00:21:15,360 --> 00:21:16,360 time. 350 00:21:16,360 --> 00:21:18,680 We don't need to watch the protein level. 351 00:21:18,680 --> 00:21:22,520 We can have a little bit more for recovery and we can also have more vegetables at that 352 00:21:22,520 --> 00:21:26,840 time and then continuing to have hydrating beverages at the post meal. 353 00:21:26,840 --> 00:21:31,640 So that's where we could afford to have a lean steak or a nice salmon filet, a bigger 354 00:21:31,640 --> 00:21:35,120 piece of meat along with similar carbs. 355 00:21:35,120 --> 00:21:41,400 Carbohydrate carbs like rice's potatoes, pastas and then maybe a side salad or a cook veggie. 356 00:21:41,400 --> 00:21:46,240 But more volume in that recovery meal, particularly if you've had a three set match and you've 357 00:21:46,240 --> 00:21:49,760 been out there for several hours and have expended a lot of calories. 358 00:21:49,760 --> 00:21:53,400 So you couldn't afford to have like a bobby we covered all. 359 00:21:53,400 --> 00:21:58,400 So my cheeseburger and french fries are in the ballpark. 360 00:21:58,400 --> 00:21:59,400 They're just not. 361 00:21:59,400 --> 00:22:02,360 Well, there are some redeeming points to that. 362 00:22:02,360 --> 00:22:08,880 The burger if it's lean is lean protein, the bun is still some carbohydrate, but it's probably 363 00:22:08,880 --> 00:22:12,480 a little more fat coming one than you burnt on the court. 364 00:22:12,480 --> 00:22:15,320 So just keep that in mind. 365 00:22:15,320 --> 00:22:16,320 Message here. 366 00:22:16,320 --> 00:22:21,520 Now one quick personal question page because I take a morning concoction, I call it. 367 00:22:21,520 --> 00:22:28,360 It's a tablespoon and a half of virgin olive oil, tablespoon and a half of lemon juice and 368 00:22:28,360 --> 00:22:32,840 every now and then I sprinkle inside and I literally do this empty stomach every day. 369 00:22:32,840 --> 00:22:37,280 It's terrible tasting, but is it actually doing something positive? 370 00:22:37,280 --> 00:22:41,560 Well, I mean, each of those has some nutritional value. 371 00:22:41,560 --> 00:22:43,000 What do you think you're getting from it? 372 00:22:43,000 --> 00:22:44,880 Why are you doing that, bobby? 373 00:22:44,880 --> 00:22:50,960 Because I want YouTube, who's the nutritionist who said this is great for you because obviously 374 00:22:50,960 --> 00:22:52,640 I don't eat real well. 375 00:22:52,640 --> 00:22:58,540 So I want this is my band aid for all my bad habits to start the day with some extra virgin 376 00:22:58,540 --> 00:22:59,540 olive oil. 377 00:22:59,540 --> 00:23:00,540 Yeah. 378 00:23:00,540 --> 00:23:04,360 So you're getting a good healthy and saturated healthy oil. 379 00:23:04,360 --> 00:23:05,360 Yes. 380 00:23:05,360 --> 00:23:06,360 So that's it. 381 00:23:06,360 --> 00:23:09,600 But that table swims a nice little chunk of healthy fat there. 382 00:23:09,600 --> 00:23:10,880 So just keep that in mind. 383 00:23:10,880 --> 00:23:14,000 I wouldn't do that right before you go on the tennis court. 384 00:23:14,000 --> 00:23:17,880 The cayenne is highly anti-inflammatory, but could be a little rough on the tummy. 385 00:23:17,880 --> 00:23:21,160 I don't know if it, but anybody who's in the sense of stomach might be a little cautious 386 00:23:21,160 --> 00:23:22,160 on doing that. 387 00:23:22,160 --> 00:23:25,640 I don't see any problem with you doing that in your day. 388 00:23:25,640 --> 00:23:29,360 I just would do that concoction right before you're about to play. 389 00:23:29,360 --> 00:23:33,560 I think it can feel a little heavy number one and possibly irritating to the gut. 390 00:23:33,560 --> 00:23:38,400 But those those food sources, the nutrients present there are things that we can benefit 391 00:23:38,400 --> 00:23:40,080 from for sure. 392 00:23:40,080 --> 00:23:42,720 So not such a bad idea. 393 00:23:42,720 --> 00:23:46,120 I know you got one going for you, Bobby. 394 00:23:46,120 --> 00:23:48,120 Watch the right YouTube guy. 395 00:23:48,120 --> 00:23:49,120 All right. 396 00:23:49,120 --> 00:23:50,120 Exactly. 397 00:23:50,120 --> 00:23:52,120 I think we're good. 398 00:23:52,120 --> 00:23:56,120 Bobby, anything else before we hit her with King of tennis or Queen of tennis in this case? 399 00:23:56,120 --> 00:23:57,200 I mean, we were doubles partners. 400 00:23:57,200 --> 00:23:59,640 I wasn't really, I didn't know she went to Baylor. 401 00:23:59,640 --> 00:24:01,040 How did we get along so well? 402 00:24:01,040 --> 00:24:02,640 What's wrong with Baylor? 403 00:24:02,640 --> 00:24:03,640 I've looked at you. 404 00:24:03,640 --> 00:24:06,440 I mean, we were, we were rivals for Pete's Hates. 405 00:24:06,440 --> 00:24:09,800 We were up and down 35 from each other. 406 00:24:09,800 --> 00:24:13,080 I passed Baylor all the time on my way to UT to go party. 407 00:24:13,080 --> 00:24:14,080 Yeah. 408 00:24:14,080 --> 00:24:16,360 Good part about it is we eventually grew up. 409 00:24:16,360 --> 00:24:18,200 I don't know how that never came up. 410 00:24:18,200 --> 00:24:20,480 I don't know how that didn't come up. 411 00:24:20,480 --> 00:24:23,520 Maybe for a reason. 412 00:24:23,520 --> 00:24:24,520 We'll page. 413 00:24:24,520 --> 00:24:25,520 We appreciate you being here. 414 00:24:25,520 --> 00:24:29,040 We have one last question that we always love to ask in your case. 415 00:24:29,040 --> 00:24:31,320 It is the queen of tennis question. 416 00:24:31,320 --> 00:24:36,160 But we'd love to know if you were made queen of tennis, whether it was the professional 417 00:24:36,160 --> 00:24:43,320 tour, social, the whole world or just local here to Atlanta, is there anything as queen 418 00:24:43,320 --> 00:24:44,320 of tennis? 419 00:24:44,320 --> 00:24:46,880 Is there anything you would do or change? 420 00:24:46,880 --> 00:24:50,960 Well, something I think would be really cool to have. 421 00:24:50,960 --> 00:24:56,200 Kind of all levels of play is just what we call sport fueling stations. 422 00:24:56,200 --> 00:25:01,280 In Alten at Lano, we could do this because people are bringing food, but we just want to 423 00:25:01,280 --> 00:25:04,280 have the right criteria so they know what to bring. 424 00:25:04,280 --> 00:25:09,680 But where we'd have appropriate hydration sources, appropriate snacks to have on court, 425 00:25:09,680 --> 00:25:12,480 pre-match options, appropriate post-match options. 426 00:25:12,480 --> 00:25:15,560 And I've written a couple of articles about this in Alten at News. 427 00:25:15,560 --> 00:25:19,720 So I would love, if I was queen of the court, the ability to get that message out to more 428 00:25:19,720 --> 00:25:24,880 people and have the right hydration sources and fuels available, court side. 429 00:25:24,880 --> 00:25:29,120 And it'd be kind of cool if we could have that sort of portable thing and we all kind of 430 00:25:29,120 --> 00:25:31,720 contributed and put in the right components. 431 00:25:31,720 --> 00:25:36,960 And we're learning along the way as we bring these things in as team members, but just everybody 432 00:25:36,960 --> 00:25:41,040 having the right tools so that nutrition is not a limiting factor, but can enhance our 433 00:25:41,040 --> 00:25:42,040 performance. 434 00:25:42,040 --> 00:25:46,600 No matter what age, no matter what level, just having all the right fuels and hydration sources 435 00:25:46,600 --> 00:25:48,600 to succeed. 436 00:25:48,600 --> 00:25:52,840 Bobby, racket sports specific food truck. 437 00:25:52,840 --> 00:25:56,080 I like it. 438 00:25:56,080 --> 00:25:58,080 We had a portable bloody Mary kit. 439 00:25:58,080 --> 00:26:00,080 Why can't we have a snack? 440 00:26:00,080 --> 00:26:02,280 I mean, go in the wrong way, Bobby. 441 00:26:02,280 --> 00:26:03,280 Go in the wrong way. 442 00:26:03,280 --> 00:26:04,280 Look, business to me. 443 00:26:04,280 --> 00:26:06,320 Why isn't this being sold in stores? 444 00:26:06,320 --> 00:26:09,440 I mean, you know, this is what you're here's your pre-match. 445 00:26:09,440 --> 00:26:12,240 Here's your during match, here's your post match. 446 00:26:12,240 --> 00:26:13,560 I mean, I love it. 447 00:26:13,560 --> 00:26:14,560 Well, let's talk later. 448 00:26:14,560 --> 00:26:16,400 Maybe we have a business idea. 449 00:26:16,400 --> 00:26:18,240 I think that an idea here. 450 00:26:18,240 --> 00:26:22,160 I think there's a simple fire and give it to the people. 451 00:26:22,160 --> 00:26:27,080 And that's the most crazy answer going to go at a junior tournament if we have something 452 00:26:27,080 --> 00:26:28,080 like this. 453 00:26:28,080 --> 00:26:29,080 Oh my god. 454 00:26:29,080 --> 00:26:31,680 And it just be devil dogs and glass of milk. 455 00:26:31,680 --> 00:26:33,200 I had pre-tournament matches. 456 00:26:33,200 --> 00:26:36,760 So I mean, this is just the whole idea is a great thing. 457 00:26:36,760 --> 00:26:39,960 So yeah, this is, evolution is a great thing. 458 00:26:39,960 --> 00:26:42,200 All right, we'll put it on the list. 459 00:26:42,200 --> 00:26:45,400 You swish to reality, that could be kind of cool. 460 00:26:45,400 --> 00:26:51,240 All right, it's why we like to ask the question is because if we can help bring the queen of 461 00:26:51,240 --> 00:26:53,600 tennis idea to reality, we will. 462 00:26:53,600 --> 00:26:55,880 So we will definitely follow up a page. 463 00:26:55,880 --> 00:26:57,400 Thank you so much for taking the time. 464 00:26:57,400 --> 00:26:59,520 Bobby is always, I appreciate it. 465 00:26:59,520 --> 00:27:00,520 Thank you. 466 00:27:00,520 --> 00:27:01,520 It was fun to be with you guys. 467 00:27:01,520 --> 00:27:04,040 Great to spread the message this way. 468 00:27:04,040 --> 00:27:05,040 Thank you. 469 00:27:05,040 --> 00:27:10,520 Well, there you have it. 470 00:27:10,520 --> 00:27:15,720 We want to thank reGeovinate.com for use of the studio and signature tennis for their support. 471 00:27:15,720 --> 00:27:17,560 And be sure to hit that follow 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