Hello, human collective.
Speaker AWelcome to the Upside to Grief.
Speaker AMy name is Story and I am your host.
Speaker BAnd my name is Erica and I am your co host.
Speaker AWelcome back.
Speaker AWe are doing one of our segments this week.
Speaker BYeah, we're pretty excited.
Speaker BIt is the grief deck pull.
Speaker BSo we're going to be pulling some cards, talking about them and having fun with it.
Speaker BWho knows what's going to happen?
Speaker BThat's like kind of the beauty of pulling cards is like you don't know what you're going to get and it will spark conversation or ideas.
Speaker ASo yeah, I'm like, I feel excited because I love pulling cards just in general, but then I'm like, oh, excited.
Speaker AAnd then I'm like, it could go really sideways really fast.
Speaker ABut I'm here for it.
Speaker BYeah.
Speaker BSo just staying open to like whatever the cards may bring.
Speaker AYes, yes, we'll see.
Speaker AWe'll see what happens.
Speaker BBut yeah.
Speaker BOkay, so we have two main little decks here.
Speaker BI'm gonna do the little and drop some.
Speaker BA little shuffle, stick them in there, shuffle.
Speaker BWe also have a deck that has three main topics.
Speaker BHealing, grace and grief.
Speaker BI was thinking that we could like start with those and then talk about the rituals because.
Speaker BYeah, yeah, no limit.
Speaker AAnd if you've been following along, you'll have seen that Erica was the first person to do grief deck pulls after chapter two.
Speaker AI believe you pulled the grief card.
Speaker BYes, yes.
Speaker AYou just did one.
Speaker BYeah, I just did one.
Speaker BAnd I had like a vendetta against the grace cards.
Speaker BOh, do you remember that?
Speaker BI was like, I don't know how I feel about pulling from the grace pile.
Speaker AWe're not there yet.
Speaker AWe just do what feels right.
Speaker BYeah, we're not there yet either.
Speaker AStill and yet.
Speaker BThank you.
Speaker BMaybe you'll pull the grace card.
Speaker AMaybe that's what softness will look like.
Speaker AIt's a reoccurring theme in my life that Erica brought up to me.
Speaker BYeah, yeah.
Speaker BWhat would softness look like?
Speaker AMaybe the grace card.
Speaker BOkay, well, I want you to pull first.
Speaker BThat was like my little plan.
Speaker BSo I shuffled these already and I was thinking you could put hands on them or shuffle them yourself if you want.
Speaker BOr just pull like, just do what you want.
Speaker BCuz we'll do those first.
Speaker BAnd then I was going to spread these out so we can like pull them at random.
Speaker BCuz I feel like if we shuffle like we did last time.
Speaker AThese ones or.
Speaker ANo, you're going to shuffle these ones.
Speaker BThese ones I already shuffled before we started.
Speaker AGot it.
Speaker BSo then like just pull them however you want to.
Speaker BI don't think there should be any rules.
Speaker BCuz.
Speaker BYeah, it's just for fun.
Speaker AFor fun.
Speaker AWe have fun.
Speaker AThere's fun in grief.
Speaker AThis is it.
Speaker BThis is the fun.
Speaker BBuy yourself some cards.
Speaker ABuy yourself some cards.
Speaker AYes, yes.
Speaker AReach out to us if you need suggestions.
Speaker BYeah, a couple people did reach out to me about what decks these are.
Speaker BSo if you do want to know, then just comment or DM and we will send you the links.
Speaker BSo yeah.
Speaker BYeah, let's go.
Speaker BStory.
Speaker BOkay.
Speaker BHowever you want.
Speaker BYou can pick up a pile, shuffle through it.
Speaker BI feel like they wouldn't even be cheating if you like turned them around and looked at him like.
Speaker BI. I really don't think there should be any rules.
Speaker AOkay.
Speaker ASorry.
Speaker AI'm just thinking.
Speaker AI don't know.
Speaker AI like, I feel like I should pull the grace card, but I kind of want to pull the healing card.
Speaker BLet's do both.
Speaker BNo rules, remember?
Speaker AOkay.
Speaker BLet's do both.
Speaker AOkay.
Speaker BCuz I feel like they could be part of the same thing.
Speaker BThat's probably what you're gonna end up with.
Speaker BSomething that goes together very well.
Speaker AOkay, here, I'll move these guys.
Speaker BThis one, she's just taking her time and pulling one.
Speaker AYes.
Speaker AI like to just like take some breaths and like put my energy in into the cards.
Speaker AGood.
Speaker BShe just did the cutest little nod in case you weren't watching.
Speaker BAll right, now she's going into the healing pile of this grief deck and she's going to choose a card.
Speaker AOkay.
Speaker BOkay.
Speaker AAll right.
Speaker BI'm going to move the big piles out of the way so we can just like see the two.
Speaker AWe got them.
Speaker AThey're really pretty.
Speaker AFor those who are just listening, they have some really cool like geometric shapes on it with like a butterfly, half butterfly, half flower design.
Speaker AThen the other one's purple.
Speaker AJust like our logo.
Speaker AThe grace card is the color of our logo.
Speaker BI like that.
Speaker AOkay.
Speaker BOkay.
Speaker BWhich one is she gonna choose?
Speaker BGrace.
Speaker BOkay.
Speaker ATake the high road.
Speaker AMaintain strong boundaries while being gracious.
Speaker AA difficult person or situation in your life requires your dispassionate detachment.
Speaker ATaking the high road might be the kindest option for yourself.
Speaker AAvoid unnecessary drama.
Speaker ADon't tolerate disrespect or mean spirited behavior.
Speaker AYet show others grace you'd expect.
Speaker AConnect with your higher values.
Speaker ASpeaking and acting from that higher wisdom.
Speaker BDid anything pop out at you right away?
Speaker AOh, 100%, absolutely.
Speaker BOkay, now do you want to pull the healing card first or do you want to process that one first?
Speaker AI'm going to pull the healing card instead of processing it Just to make sure I'm going in the right direction.
Speaker AI know 100% what stuck out to me on this, but we're going to.
Speaker BPull the healing card.
Speaker ALet's just see.
Speaker BI feel like they're connected somehow.
Speaker BSo let's see the healing card.
Speaker ARebuild and restructure.
Speaker ACreate and solidify new foundations.
Speaker ANo need to rush or overthink, as some of this healing will happen organically.
Speaker AWhether it's your health, finances, career, or relationships, or several areas of your life affected, this card indicates a positive realignment phase.
Speaker ASpin a new web for strategic evolution.
Speaker ABreak new ground.
Speaker AInteresting.
Speaker BYeah.
Speaker BWhat do you think?
Speaker AI think it's very on brand for today.
Speaker AI did pull a card this morning just out of, like, my regular, regular tarot deck, and I got the ace of swords.
Speaker ASo I feel like it's pretty on brand for today with, like, new beginnings and rebuilding and.
Speaker AAnd stuff like that and being excited.
Speaker AI think that when I.
Speaker AWhen I read the first card about boundaries and.
Speaker AAnd this part, taking the high road might be the kindest option for yourself.
Speaker BFor yourself, for myself, not even the other person.
Speaker BFor yourself.
Speaker AYeah.
Speaker AYeah.
Speaker AThat just brings up some stuff at one of my jobs that there's just, like, a struggle that's going on there.
Speaker ASo I don't, I guess, necessarily want to talk about it because it's just like.
Speaker AYou know what I mean?
Speaker ALike, I don't.
Speaker AI don't know, but I don't know.
Speaker AI think it makes sense.
Speaker AIt's positive, so that's good.
Speaker AI was worried.
Speaker BWell, I liked the way that the first card take the high road was phrased.
Speaker BThe one about boundaries is because it's all about you.
Speaker BLike, it's not about the other person.
Speaker BIt is.
Speaker BYeah.
Speaker BLet me see.
Speaker ASo it's dealing with difficult, difficult people.
Speaker BWell, a difficult person or situation in your life requires your dis.
Speaker BIt's all like, yes, it's about an outside situation, but it's you.
Speaker AYour reaction to it.
Speaker BYeah.
Speaker BSo your dispassionate detachment, taking the high road is the kindest option for yourself.
Speaker BYou don't have to, like, tolerate any shittiness, but show others the grace that you would expect for yourself and connect with your higher values and act with your highest wisdom.
Speaker BLike, it's not based on anybody else.
Speaker BIt's all you.
Speaker BSame thing with this one, like, rebuild and restructure.
Speaker BThat is just giving yourself the space to actually kind of think about what that means for you.
Speaker BAnd if you pulled the ace of swords this morning, that's actually kind of cool.
Speaker BBecause it's all about thoughts and communication and the opportunities to do that.
Speaker BSo it kind of goes with this guy where you don't have to tolerate or like disrespectful or mean spirited behavior, but you can speak and act from your higher wisdom.
Speaker BAnd the ace of swords is literally like divine intervention, like handing you that opportunity.
Speaker AThat's why I was like, wow, this is, this is happening.
Speaker AThe cards never lie and they give.
Speaker BYou opportunity to just focus on a couple things.
Speaker BLike if you just remember those when you're dealing with the situation.
Speaker BBecause you know, we really don't need to know what's going on.
Speaker BWe literally only need to.
Speaker BI want to hear what.
Speaker AHow do you get into the solution?
Speaker BHow do you get into the solution?
Speaker ABecause I know it's something that is causing me imbalance in my own self and I don't like that.
Speaker AAnd it's getting better.
Speaker ALike I always like assessing it, you know, and seeing where I'm at with it.
Speaker AAnd like, as opposed to two weeks ago, how my week went at work and then how my week went this past week, it was like better.
Speaker ALike I wasn't so angry.
Speaker AI don't like being angry or feeling angry.
Speaker AAnd two weeks ago I for sure was like feeling that and I was like, I don't like my energy right now.
Speaker AAnd last week, just this past week was a little bit better.
Speaker ASo I think that this is kind of like great really, because it's just more of like a reaffirming, like I am on the right road there and that this need to look inward for that.
Speaker AYou know, the solution is in here.
Speaker BYeah.
Speaker BWe can't expect other people to behave any kind of way.
Speaker BWe have no control over that.
Speaker ADon't live your life based on the expectations of other people.
Speaker BYeah.
Speaker BAnd I feel like with how this ties into grief, like when we are grieving, we can get activated so much easier.
Speaker BSo it's always good to kind of just let ourselves feel those emotions but not taking them out on people.
Speaker AYes.
Speaker AThe grace card where it says the maintain the strong boundaries while being gracious.
Speaker AWhen I was like applying that to like a grief journey, it reminds me of platitudes.
Speaker AThat's what it reminds me of being like.
Speaker AOkay.
Speaker ABecause I mean there's some days where like you're just, if you're having a bad day or you are like imbalanced and you're off and then somebody just says some outlandish, but they're just trying to help, you know, I feel like this is a Great reminder to be like, you know, like, it's.
Speaker BYeah.
Speaker BDo I really need to tell them off and tell them that they're.
Speaker BWhat they just said was totally unhelpful?
Speaker BProbably not.
Speaker AAnd afterwards, you.
Speaker AYou're probably not gonna feel it.
Speaker ALike, the next day when you're reflecting on it, you're gonna be like, yeah, I should have responded differently.
Speaker BYeah.
Speaker ABut we're all human and, you know, it happens.
Speaker AYeah.
Speaker AThat's why I love that there are so many different types of decks.
Speaker AAnd just to help you, like, re center and refocus and help guide that and help you process, it can be very, very helpful.
Speaker BYeah.
Speaker BCool.
Speaker BYay.
Speaker BOkay, I'm gonna put these away over here.
Speaker BIsh.
Speaker BAnd then here is the.
Speaker BWhat is the deck's name?
Speaker BRituals, meditations, and techniques for healing during grief.
Speaker ASo are we spreading them?
Speaker BYeah, spread them.
Speaker ASorry, I don't think you guys can actually see what we're doing.
Speaker AWe just look like we're doing.
Speaker AI don't know what we're looking.
Speaker AI don't know what it looks like.
Speaker BBut we're spreading cards on the space in front of us so that they can all be, like, splayed out and we can see all the pictures.
Speaker BThis deck has a lot of really cool pictures on the back of artists.
Speaker BThey don't necessarily coordinate with anything that's on the card, but the little guidebook inside the deck has, like, the information about the artist and, yeah, just maybe a little bit of a story about the artwork piece.
Speaker BBut like I mentioned, the artwork doesn't necessarily have to do with the ritual.
Speaker BSo they're just pretty very, very interesting and very.
Speaker BI don't know, some of them are pretty deep.
Speaker BSome of them are provoking.
Speaker BSome of them are just bright and happy.
Speaker AOkay.
Speaker BYeah.
Speaker AAre you gonna pick one?
Speaker BAm I gonna do it?
Speaker AYeah, you're okay.
Speaker BHim.
Speaker BThis one right here.
Speaker BAddressing anxiety.
Speaker BAnxiety is a natural part of the grief experience.
Speaker BFor some, however, it may be prob.
Speaker BIt may become problematic interfering with daily life.
Speaker BWhat helps you decrease your anxiety?
Speaker BActivities such as deep breathing, exercise, thought, stopping and limiting sugar and caffeine are all helpful.
Speaker BWhat thoughts or situations your anxiety.
Speaker BBeing aware of anxiety producing thoughts is important.
Speaker BIf your anxiety is a significant problem, you may just.
Speaker BYou may need to see your physician.
Speaker BI always like that last part, that little suggestion, because, like, there's.
Speaker BThere are things that you can do to help yourself, like things like this.
Speaker BBut like, if you ever think that you are feeling a little overwhelmed, like, it is always my suggestion to seek professional help.
Speaker BWhether that's a therapist, counselor, or a medical doctor, like always.
Speaker BBut anxiety.
Speaker BAnxiety is a really good one.
Speaker BI. I don't really deal with high levels of anxiety anymore, but I do deal with, like, mild anxiety.
Speaker BLike, it usually comes in the form of only being able to concentrate on one thing at a time.
Speaker BSo, like, if I'm distracted by something, or like, if my husband is trying to talk to me while I'm, like, really busy and the anxiety is up because of, like, you know, all the things that I'm doing, then I'm like, I cannot talk to you right now.
Speaker BI literally don't have the capacity to get snappy.
Speaker BSo the activities that help me decrease my anxiety are all of those things.
Speaker BDeep breathing, exercising, meditation.
Speaker BExcept limiting sugar and caffeine.
Speaker BExcept because I am definitely a caffeine fiend.
Speaker BAnd sugar.
Speaker BI do try to limit sugar, but it's hard.
Speaker AYeah, I tried to limit sugar, too, but I fuck with sugar.
Speaker BYeah, for sure.
Speaker BI hardly have anything with sugar in my house.
Speaker BI have all, like, the sugar alternatives.
Speaker BBut activities such as deep breathing, there's a lot of really good exercises just to, you know, be mindful of your breath.
Speaker BThere's box breathing.
Speaker BThere is holding your breath.
Speaker AI do box breathing all the time.
Speaker AFrequently.
Speaker BThere's deep breathing, just conscious deep breathing.
Speaker BThere is holotropic breathing.
Speaker BThere's circle breathing.
Speaker BThere's so many different kinds.
Speaker BYou can breathe while doing pressure points.
Speaker BYou can breathe with intentions.
Speaker ABreathing things in, breathing things out.
Speaker AOut.
Speaker BYes.
Speaker BThat's a big one for combining with meditation or thought stopping as they put it on the card.
Speaker BYeah.
Speaker BA couple others that decrease my anxiety, too, is journaling.
Speaker BI'm not an avid journaler, but it's suggested all the time.
Speaker BLike, on any wellness page or person who's suggesting, like, you should do this.
Speaker BIt's always, you should journal, which is.
Speaker BIt's.
Speaker BIt's kind of like a hard thing to practice if you're not used to it.
Speaker BBut I feel like every time I get into a flow of journaling, like, it's super helpful.
Speaker BSo if I'm ever anxious, I literally will, like, write it out.
Speaker BStream of conscious style.
Speaker BStream of consciousness style.
Speaker BAnd there's even writing tactics where, like, you will set a timer for five minutes, write whatever's on your mind or on a certain topic.
Speaker BAnd if you can't think of anything, don't stop moving your hand.
Speaker BLike, just keep scribbling swirls or, like, just lines, lines, lines, and thoughts will come.
Speaker BSo there's like, a whole bunch of like different little writing techniques like that.
Speaker BWriting is a whole.
Speaker AYeah.
Speaker BThing for anxiety on its.
Speaker BIn its own right.
Speaker BBut I also do like.
Speaker BI go to sound baths.
Speaker BI like to do wellness activities.
Speaker AOcean.
Speaker BOcean.
Speaker AShow.
Speaker BNature.
Speaker BNature.
Speaker BYes.
Speaker BMusic.
Speaker ASo many music.
Speaker BYeah.
Speaker BShould we pull another one?
Speaker BDo you want to pull one?
Speaker AThis one?
Speaker AGathering of stones.
Speaker AA walking meditation.
Speaker ATake a quiet walk to an outdoor place you enjoy, such as a park, beach, or woods.
Speaker AAs you walk, pick up any small stones that catch your eye.
Speaker AStop long enough to examine each stone and as you find it, and give it a name based on what you are carrying right now.
Speaker AFor example, name each stone after qualities of the individuals whose loss you are grieving.
Speaker AName them after feelings or beliefs you hold about yourself right now, good or bad.
Speaker AIf a relationship is ending, assign each stone a memory or quality of that relationship.
Speaker ACarry these stones with you.
Speaker AWhen you arrive at your destination, arrange the stones into a design.
Speaker ASpend time sketching what you made, or write a poem or a kind note to yourself on a scrap of paper.
Speaker ALeave it behind with your stones with the intention that some other person who needs them might also read your words.
Speaker AThat's really cute and nice, but what I thought of when it was like, take the stones with you.
Speaker AAnd when you arrive, and in my head, I was picturing myself, like, arriving at the ocean with all of these stones, and my brain was like, throw them in the water.
Speaker BI like that a lot better, actually.
Speaker AOh, okay.
Speaker BYeah, I. I had a friend one time tell me, trying to say this in a very vague way, but basically she would give people exercises where she would tell people to write the things that they don't like about themselves onto stones and then carry those stones in a backpack everywhere that you go and see how heavy it becomes after a while.
Speaker BAnd I feel like you could do something similar with grief, like if you're thinking about all the things that you're grieving, or like that one said, can I see it really quick?
Speaker BIt says, where is it?
Speaker BName each stone after qualities of the individuals whose loss you are grieving.
Speaker BSo, like, if you were writing down something about, you know, your person, like, all their qualities, whether they're good or bad, and just everything that reminds you of them, you'd literally have a whole backpack full.
Speaker BThat's a lot of weight to carry around and actually kind of like your way.
Speaker BThis is beautiful too.
Speaker BLike, you know, you're doing something with those words later on, but then.
Speaker AYou'Re.
Speaker BLike, leaving the stones in an aspect.
Speaker AOf like a pay it forward for somebody else, which I like that part.
Speaker AI do.
Speaker BYeah.
Speaker BI do like that.
Speaker BBut I actually really like what you said, too, because, like, it's almost like you can imagine it as sharing grief with the world.
Speaker BAnd let's say, like, you did that exercise where you have, like, all these aspects of your grief or just things that you miss about your person, and you're carrying it around in a backpack and it's really fucking heavy, and you go to the ocean and you're like, you know what?
Speaker BI think I'm going to throw a couple of these in the ocean today just for fun.
Speaker BAnd then that backpack gets a little bit lighter, and it almost makes you smile because you're like, yeah, these are going in the ocean.
Speaker BThere's a lot of other rocks in there.
Speaker BAnd I'm sure I'll find some other ones, but these ones I'll get rid of today.
Speaker AYeah.
Speaker BAnd I feel like that's pretty cool.
Speaker AYeah, I like it.
Speaker BYeah.
Speaker BNice exercise.
Speaker AOkay.
Speaker BYeah.
Speaker BI love these.
Speaker BI really want to just look at this one really quick, just because.
Speaker AYeah, of course.
Speaker BOkay.
Speaker BIt looks like it's a short one.
Speaker BSo it says, living with loneliness.
Speaker BLoneliness.
Speaker BLoneliness is an integral part of grief.
Speaker BIt is hard to accept and feel the loneliness of loss.
Speaker BConsider filling some of the emptiness you feel with other people in activities such as volunteering or joining a support group.
Speaker BWho would you consider part of your support network?
Speaker BIs there a support group you might find and join?
Speaker BWhat other activities could you engage in to combat loneliness?
Speaker BI feel like this is perfect for the chapter that we just spoke about, because, yeah, we're entering the holidays, and the holidays can feel super duper lonely.
Speaker BSo being able to, I don't know, live with loneliness, like, it's.
Speaker AYeah, it's one of those things where.
Speaker BTwo things can exist at once.
Speaker BSo I think.
Speaker AI think can be like, I. Yeah, I mean, I think this is a great suggestion.
Speaker AAnd having the support network and support group and all of that stuff, like, yes, absolutely.
Speaker ALike, that's, like, key.
Speaker ABut as far as, like, you know, like, with the holidays and stuff like that, I know that something that was, I guess, triggering for me in the sense where I was, like, at least in my, like, year one with my first round of holidays, like, I didn't want to be around a bunch of people doing holidays because everybody was, like, happy and, like, yay and gifts and that, and I just wasn't there.
Speaker AAnd so I was angry, and I was like, no, I want to go home.
Speaker ALike, I wanted to be alone because it's too.
Speaker ASome Sometimes it's too much, like, too early, too much overwhelming, you know, I'm much better about it now.
Speaker AI still have those feelings.
Speaker ABut I mean, like, year one, I was like, I gotta go.
Speaker ALike, I don't.
Speaker ALike, it's.
Speaker AYeah, it's overwhelming.
Speaker AAnd so, you know, and I think that you need.
Speaker AYou need to take the time to live with loneliness because at the end of the day, like, we all die alone, you know, like, it is you yourself living life.
Speaker AYou go to bed with you in your head, like, you know what I mean?
Speaker AAnd having that acceptance of all of you.
Speaker AAnd I think loneliness is just a part of life.
Speaker AAnd I think the more we learn to love all of ourselves, all the.
Speaker BAspects of ourselves, and that includes loneliness.
Speaker AThen, like, it starts to feel not as uncomfortable as it might in the beginning.
Speaker ALike, where I used to always feel like when I was alone or I was like, I. I feel like I have to be doing something, like, you know what I mean?
Speaker BIt's wrong that you're alone or whatever it is.
Speaker AAnd now I'm like, I know what I need.
Speaker AYeah.
Speaker AYeah, I'm good.
Speaker AI'm like, no, I'm good.
Speaker AI'm going.
Speaker AStay here by myself.
Speaker AThat was a choice, you know?
Speaker BYeah.
Speaker ASo, yeah.
Speaker BCool.
Speaker BYeah, I knew we needed to read that one.
Speaker AAwesome.
Speaker BYeah.
Speaker ASo, yeah, if you guys have any questions about any of this kind of stuff or you want suggestions, like we said before, let us know.
Speaker AComment below.
Speaker AWe can send you links or guide you in the right direction if this is new to you.
Speaker AYeah, yeah.
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