1 00:00:01,760 --> 00:00:06,240 What would it look like to start a community that was really, 2 00:00:07,680 --> 00:00:10,960 it's for the people like Jesus would be for? 3 00:00:12,080 --> 00:00:14,080 Welcome to Heaven Earth Church. 4 00:00:14,400 --> 00:00:17,760 I'm Ross Stackhouse, the founding pastor of Heaven Earth Church. 5 00:00:18,240 --> 00:00:21,760 From the start, our heart has been to be a church for people who 6 00:00:21,760 --> 00:00:23,680 don't fit neatly into church. 7 00:00:24,320 --> 00:00:27,360 We want to meet people where they are and know their stories. 8 00:00:27,360 --> 00:00:30,720 Because in every story, there is God's story. 9 00:00:31,280 --> 00:00:33,500 And this podcast, podcast is just about that. 10 00:00:33,500 --> 00:00:36,620 It's about inviting you into the stories of the people of Heaven 11 00:00:36,620 --> 00:00:37,260 Earth Church. 12 00:00:37,980 --> 00:00:39,740 So let's turn to the story. 13 00:00:41,500 --> 00:00:42,340 Hello, good people. 14 00:00:42,340 --> 00:00:45,380 Welcome to the Heaven Earth Church podcast. 15 00:00:45,380 --> 00:00:49,660 This is the church that's looking to make a lasting impact 16 00:00:49,820 --> 00:00:50,940 in our community. 17 00:00:51,100 --> 00:00:54,940 And one of the things we love to do here on the podcast is to talk 18 00:00:54,940 --> 00:00:59,550 to people who are part of the Heaven Earth Church community. 19 00:01:00,270 --> 00:01:01,470 My name is Brad Miller. 20 00:01:02,270 --> 00:01:05,750 I help to produce the podcast. 21 00:01:05,750 --> 00:01:09,470 Our pastor is Ross Stackhouse and we have connections with lots 22 00:01:09,470 --> 00:01:10,070 of great people. 23 00:01:10,070 --> 00:01:13,190 And one of the great people we're talking to today, her name 24 00:01:13,190 --> 00:01:14,310 is Christy Stone. 25 00:01:14,310 --> 00:01:15,950 So, Christy, welcome to our conversation. 26 00:01:16,030 --> 00:01:16,710 Hi, Brad. 27 00:01:16,710 --> 00:01:17,190 Thank you. 28 00:01:17,190 --> 00:01:18,670 Thanks for having me on today. 29 00:01:18,910 --> 00:01:19,870 Awesome, awesome. 30 00:01:20,510 --> 00:01:25,210 Glad to have you and meet you and be part of the podcast so people 31 00:01:25,210 --> 00:01:27,970 can get to know you a little bit and see your smiling face and 32 00:01:27,970 --> 00:01:30,650 see what you're all about and learn about you. 33 00:01:30,650 --> 00:01:33,090 So let's just kind of, let's just kind of start here. 34 00:01:33,090 --> 00:01:34,290 What's hometown for you? 35 00:01:34,290 --> 00:01:35,090 Where are you from? 36 00:01:35,810 --> 00:01:39,809 So originally I was born in Greenwood, but when I was about one 37 00:01:39,809 --> 00:01:43,130 and a half, we moved out to Cloverdale, Indiana, which is about 38 00:01:43,130 --> 00:01:48,250 40 miles west of Indianapolis, right in between Indianapolis and 39 00:01:48,250 --> 00:01:49,570 Terre haute, right off I70. 40 00:01:49,650 --> 00:01:51,890 Same exit as Greencastle, DePaul University. 41 00:01:52,770 --> 00:01:54,290 Small little town, Cloverdale. 42 00:01:54,450 --> 00:01:58,590 There I graduated with about 82 people in the class of 2001. 43 00:01:58,670 --> 00:01:59,070 So. 44 00:01:59,630 --> 00:02:00,150 So yeah. 45 00:02:00,150 --> 00:02:00,910 So small town. 46 00:02:01,550 --> 00:02:01,950 Born. 47 00:02:01,950 --> 00:02:03,550 Well, not born, but raised there. 48 00:02:04,110 --> 00:02:07,430 Was there until I went to school in college and I went down 49 00:02:07,430 --> 00:02:11,390 to Evansville for that at the University of Southern Indiana and 50 00:02:11,390 --> 00:02:14,870 then kind of wounded back up here in Johnson county or south side 51 00:02:14,870 --> 00:02:15,830 of Indianapolis now. 52 00:02:15,830 --> 00:02:16,270 Yeah. 53 00:02:16,750 --> 00:02:19,430 Well, tell me one cool thing about growing up in Cloverdale. 54 00:02:19,430 --> 00:02:23,450 What was something that made it unique or home for you? 55 00:02:23,850 --> 00:02:26,890 So I really is that small town like feel and everything. 56 00:02:27,050 --> 00:02:31,330 It's just everybody knows everybody and I am fortunate that 57 00:02:31,330 --> 00:02:35,610 I have this good group of friends that there was like four 58 00:02:35,610 --> 00:02:39,250 of us, you know, two or three of us met in kindergarten and we 59 00:02:39,250 --> 00:02:40,850 were, we're still friends to this day. 60 00:02:40,850 --> 00:02:44,170 I actually had lunch with one of them Yesterday and then our fourth 61 00:02:44,170 --> 00:02:45,490 came along in about eighth grade. 62 00:02:45,490 --> 00:02:48,850 And the four of us are still really super connected and just that 63 00:02:48,850 --> 00:02:51,570 lifelong friendship bond and just kind of still being connected 64 00:02:51,570 --> 00:02:52,650 to that small town feel. 65 00:02:52,650 --> 00:02:55,830 I think that's what gives it that special uniqueness. 66 00:02:56,150 --> 00:02:59,270 Well, that is awesome, that heritage going on. 67 00:02:59,270 --> 00:03:00,630 So that, that's awesome. 68 00:03:01,110 --> 00:03:04,910 Well, you have any brothers, sisters, your parents, that type 69 00:03:04,910 --> 00:03:05,510 of thing as well? 70 00:03:05,510 --> 00:03:06,390 Yeah, absolutely. 71 00:03:06,390 --> 00:03:06,790 So. 72 00:03:07,110 --> 00:03:08,390 So my parents, my. 73 00:03:08,550 --> 00:03:09,670 I am one of six. 74 00:03:09,829 --> 00:03:11,750 I am the baby, the only girl. 75 00:03:12,470 --> 00:03:16,950 My mom had three boys and then my dad had two, and then they got 76 00:03:16,950 --> 00:03:17,990 together and had me. 77 00:03:18,070 --> 00:03:21,350 So we're a his, mine and ours blended family. 78 00:03:21,430 --> 00:03:23,590 But I am the only one from the two together. 79 00:03:23,750 --> 00:03:27,330 And I am the conn and the glue and. 80 00:03:28,050 --> 00:03:30,890 And then my, you know, I'm the only girl. 81 00:03:30,890 --> 00:03:35,090 And my parents were older when they had me, so they were 42. 82 00:03:35,090 --> 00:03:36,930 My mom turned 43 the next day. 83 00:03:37,570 --> 00:03:40,490 So my brother's range in about 21 to 14 years older than me. 84 00:03:40,490 --> 00:03:44,490 So I was kind of raised as an only child on top of being the only 85 00:03:44,490 --> 00:03:44,770 girl. 86 00:03:44,850 --> 00:03:45,250 So. 87 00:03:46,370 --> 00:03:49,370 So everybody's family got some unique aspects to it. 88 00:03:49,370 --> 00:03:50,210 That's part of. 89 00:03:50,690 --> 00:03:53,170 Part of yours then as well. 90 00:03:53,330 --> 00:04:00,100 So was church life, faith life a part of growing up in your family? 91 00:04:00,660 --> 00:04:02,700 So we, we're a little. 92 00:04:02,700 --> 00:04:04,660 There's a little bit of blending there as well. 93 00:04:04,980 --> 00:04:08,380 So my mom was actually raised for the most part, Jehovah's Witness, 94 00:04:08,380 --> 00:04:12,900 and she did take me to the Kingdom hall until I was about five 95 00:04:12,900 --> 00:04:13,460 years old. 96 00:04:13,780 --> 00:04:18,060 Um, we didn't necessarily practice, um, all the rules, if you 97 00:04:18,060 --> 00:04:20,900 will, um, still kind of celebrated holidays here and there, 98 00:04:21,140 --> 00:04:22,500 um, things like that. 99 00:04:22,500 --> 00:04:27,880 And so it was her and I, um, but, you know, she was by herself 100 00:04:27,880 --> 00:04:28,640 kind of doing that. 101 00:04:28,640 --> 00:04:32,120 And you know, knowing that we wanted to kind of still have, you 102 00:04:32,120 --> 00:04:33,360 know, celebrations and things. 103 00:04:33,360 --> 00:04:36,240 She, she veered off when I was about 5. 104 00:04:36,240 --> 00:04:40,840 But then I, the My friend from kindergarten, she was very heavily 105 00:04:40,840 --> 00:04:43,120 involved in a local church there, her and her family. 106 00:04:43,360 --> 00:04:47,960 And I started attending with her on Wednesdays and Sundays in 107 00:04:47,960 --> 00:04:48,800 about third grade. 108 00:04:48,800 --> 00:04:52,120 And from then on through high school, I, I went to that church 109 00:04:52,120 --> 00:04:53,360 and attended with her family. 110 00:04:53,840 --> 00:04:54,160 Yeah. 111 00:04:54,400 --> 00:04:55,760 So it was a part of your life. 112 00:04:56,160 --> 00:05:03,080 Some nuances there with the Joe is with sort of faith life was 113 00:05:03,080 --> 00:05:03,840 a part of your life. 114 00:05:04,640 --> 00:05:05,120 Yeah. 115 00:05:05,600 --> 00:05:08,520 And you went off to college at USI University of Southern Indiana. 116 00:05:08,520 --> 00:05:10,840 Tell me a little bit of what got you there and what, what did 117 00:05:10,840 --> 00:05:11,440 you do there. 118 00:05:11,680 --> 00:05:14,400 So really kind of building on that small town feel. 119 00:05:15,040 --> 00:05:19,160 So myself and two of the others from that original four, I 120 00:05:19,160 --> 00:05:19,600 Talked about. 121 00:05:19,600 --> 00:05:22,560 We decided to go to the University of Southern Indiana together. 122 00:05:23,760 --> 00:05:24,680 It was very small. 123 00:05:24,680 --> 00:05:26,860 I only had to a bathroom with one other person. 124 00:05:27,420 --> 00:05:30,060 And so, you know, I wanted to branch out. 125 00:05:30,060 --> 00:05:32,980 It was also kind of, it was about two and a half hours away from 126 00:05:32,980 --> 00:05:35,460 home, so it was like close enough that I could still get back 127 00:05:35,460 --> 00:05:39,340 if I needed to, but I was far enough away that I had that separation. 128 00:05:39,340 --> 00:05:42,500 I felt like so I could go and kind of do, you know, learn. 129 00:05:42,500 --> 00:05:43,660 Learn how to be an adult. 130 00:05:43,660 --> 00:05:43,980 Right. 131 00:05:44,700 --> 00:05:48,860 And actually that I think is probably some of the next questions 132 00:05:48,860 --> 00:05:49,580 that you'll get into. 133 00:05:49,660 --> 00:05:53,420 But so Joanna Burnett, who is. 134 00:05:53,740 --> 00:05:56,780 Her maiden name is Stackhouse, she is Ross's. 135 00:05:58,040 --> 00:06:00,680 That her and I met freshman year at college. 136 00:06:03,240 --> 00:06:03,680 Yes. 137 00:06:03,680 --> 00:06:07,680 It was kind of an immediate connection there and definitely a 138 00:06:07,680 --> 00:06:09,960 lifelong friendship formed from that as well. 139 00:06:10,440 --> 00:06:11,640 Similar backgrounds. 140 00:06:11,640 --> 00:06:15,240 They are from, you know, kind of a smaller town as well. 141 00:06:15,240 --> 00:06:18,160 You know, we were kind of on the, I was on the west side of Indianapolis, 142 00:06:18,160 --> 00:06:19,880 they were on the east side of Indianapolis. 143 00:06:19,880 --> 00:06:22,320 And then her and I met in college. 144 00:06:22,320 --> 00:06:25,240 She had, you know, a core group of friends and a lot of good 145 00:06:25,240 --> 00:06:25,480 friends. 146 00:06:25,480 --> 00:06:29,900 And we kind of blended our circles as we, as we met and kind 147 00:06:29,900 --> 00:06:31,540 of brought those two cores together. 148 00:06:31,780 --> 00:06:32,260 Yeah. 149 00:06:32,500 --> 00:06:35,460 But tell me something interesting or about your college 150 00:06:35,460 --> 00:06:38,860 years that may have kind of led you to do kind of what you end 151 00:06:38,860 --> 00:06:40,020 up doing in your adult life. 152 00:06:40,020 --> 00:06:41,620 Tell me a little bit about your experiences there. 153 00:06:41,620 --> 00:06:42,780 Good, bad, otherwise. 154 00:06:42,780 --> 00:06:46,580 Yeah, so I was actually in college for radio television. 155 00:06:46,580 --> 00:06:50,420 I did get a Bachelor's of arts in radio Television Communications 156 00:06:50,420 --> 00:06:50,980 degree. 157 00:06:51,780 --> 00:06:57,340 And so I had this dream that I was going to be a radio DJ or eventually 158 00:06:57,340 --> 00:06:58,660 maybe a talk show host. 159 00:06:58,900 --> 00:07:02,640 Rosie o' Donnell was kind of an idol when I was growing up watching 160 00:07:02,640 --> 00:07:03,520 her talk show. 161 00:07:04,240 --> 00:07:07,600 And so I thought that's where I was going. 162 00:07:07,600 --> 00:07:11,920 But what I did was I ended up first full time job out of college 163 00:07:11,920 --> 00:07:14,040 because coming back to the Indianapolis market, kind of hard 164 00:07:14,040 --> 00:07:16,240 to get into the media realm of life. 165 00:07:16,720 --> 00:07:21,160 And so I first full time job out of college was in optometry. 166 00:07:21,160 --> 00:07:24,960 I was a technician and actually somebody Joanna went to 167 00:07:24,960 --> 00:07:29,480 high school with, you know, was a manager at an optometry practice 168 00:07:29,480 --> 00:07:30,560 and needed a technician. 169 00:07:30,560 --> 00:07:32,200 So that's kind of how I fell into it. 170 00:07:32,200 --> 00:07:34,220 And I just ended up learning so much. 171 00:07:34,300 --> 00:07:39,620 And I grew professionally, matured professionally in the optometry 172 00:07:39,620 --> 00:07:41,020 industry and so ended up. 173 00:07:43,660 --> 00:07:44,140 Yes. 174 00:07:44,140 --> 00:07:44,500 Yeah. 175 00:07:44,500 --> 00:07:46,860 So worked in a practice for 12 and a half years at that point. 176 00:07:46,860 --> 00:07:47,660 At this time. 177 00:07:47,660 --> 00:07:48,420 I'm now in my. 178 00:07:48,420 --> 00:07:52,500 Going on my 20th year in the industry and now I Kind of do more 179 00:07:52,500 --> 00:07:54,820 behind the scenes, but I provide continuing education for 180 00:07:54,820 --> 00:07:56,140 independent optometrist. 181 00:07:56,540 --> 00:07:57,260 That's awesome. 182 00:07:57,580 --> 00:08:01,060 Was faith life a part of your college area experience in your early 183 00:08:01,060 --> 00:08:01,820 adult, Doug? 184 00:08:02,960 --> 00:08:07,360 So, you know, you go, you go off to college, you, you start learning 185 00:08:07,360 --> 00:08:10,320 and kind of exploring different, different things and, 186 00:08:10,320 --> 00:08:12,560 you know, trying to kind of see what the world has to offer. 187 00:08:12,560 --> 00:08:12,920 Right. 188 00:08:12,920 --> 00:08:17,040 So I will say that I was definitely more in tune as a young 189 00:08:17,040 --> 00:08:23,360 adult and you know, I'm sorry, like a teenager and in my adolescence 190 00:08:23,520 --> 00:08:26,080 more so because I had that connection with my friend and her 191 00:08:26,080 --> 00:08:26,400 family. 192 00:08:27,760 --> 00:08:32,240 However, in college, you know, we had some wild times, some wild, 193 00:08:32,240 --> 00:08:33,480 wild days and things. 194 00:08:33,640 --> 00:08:38,040 However, I did always still feel connected because I was surrounded 195 00:08:38,040 --> 00:08:41,680 by my friend that I had grown up with and her family for the most 196 00:08:41,680 --> 00:08:41,960 part. 197 00:08:41,960 --> 00:08:45,520 And then meeting, meeting Joanna, I mean, her and I still had 198 00:08:45,520 --> 00:08:49,480 that, that roots in a faith based, you know, foundation. 199 00:08:49,640 --> 00:08:52,560 And so that's something that kind of kept us grounded from time 200 00:08:52,560 --> 00:08:53,400 to time, I believe. 201 00:08:54,040 --> 00:08:57,040 So even though we weren't as close or in tune as we should have 202 00:08:57,040 --> 00:09:01,070 been, probably there was definitely still that pulse check 203 00:09:01,070 --> 00:09:02,590 that we'd give each other every once in a while. 204 00:09:03,550 --> 00:09:06,430 Tell me, how about in your adult life, you entered the workforce 205 00:09:06,430 --> 00:09:07,630 now, Thomas Fee industry. 206 00:09:07,710 --> 00:09:10,590 You, I think you kind of stayed around the Indianapolis area 207 00:09:10,590 --> 00:09:14,150 for the most part since you graduated college in South Thomas 208 00:09:14,150 --> 00:09:15,070 Community and a streak. 209 00:09:15,470 --> 00:09:19,190 So how is it that you ended up eventually to get introduced to heaven 210 00:09:19,190 --> 00:09:19,670 or a church? 211 00:09:19,670 --> 00:09:21,150 How did this become a part of your life? 212 00:09:21,310 --> 00:09:24,950 Yeah, so again, you know, meeting Joanna in our early, you 213 00:09:24,950 --> 00:09:29,350 know, late teens, early 20s, you know, Ross was still, still a 214 00:09:29,350 --> 00:09:32,430 young, young adolescent. 215 00:09:32,510 --> 00:09:34,190 I don't even think he was a teenager yet. 216 00:09:34,910 --> 00:09:40,470 And so just, you know, that big sister role, if you will, kind 217 00:09:40,470 --> 00:09:42,990 of coming, becoming friends with the family and, and just being 218 00:09:42,990 --> 00:09:43,310 there. 219 00:09:43,870 --> 00:09:48,470 When we heard that Ross was starting this, this endeavor here 220 00:09:48,470 --> 00:09:49,390 in Johnson county. 221 00:09:49,470 --> 00:09:54,230 And yes, I did live locally and Joanna actually had moved out 222 00:09:54,230 --> 00:09:54,670 of state. 223 00:09:55,550 --> 00:10:00,170 So my Joanna, Joanna had moved out of state. 224 00:10:00,170 --> 00:10:05,370 And so when Ross was starting the church here kind of as that big 225 00:10:05,370 --> 00:10:08,330 sister role, like with her kind of not here to support. 226 00:10:09,450 --> 00:10:11,530 She had reached out and he had reached out. 227 00:10:11,850 --> 00:10:14,570 Yeah, like, I felt kind of like, okay, it's like I'm going to 228 00:10:14,570 --> 00:10:15,530 go support and see this. 229 00:10:15,530 --> 00:10:19,130 And I'd been wanting, I'd been feeling a nudge and like to get back 230 00:10:19,210 --> 00:10:23,730 kind of, you know, get more ingrained and back into the flow 231 00:10:23,730 --> 00:10:25,370 and rituals and things. 232 00:10:26,330 --> 00:10:30,990 And I was like, okay, I need to, to of get back to that and, and 233 00:10:30,990 --> 00:10:32,590 Also, I'm, you know, I'm supporting. 234 00:10:32,590 --> 00:10:32,950 Right. 235 00:10:33,190 --> 00:10:36,390 And so I started showing up at Johnson's barbecue. 236 00:10:36,790 --> 00:10:38,470 That's where he was, you know, holding. 237 00:10:38,790 --> 00:10:39,670 Holding everything. 238 00:10:39,830 --> 00:10:41,430 And just it. 239 00:10:41,430 --> 00:10:41,870 It just. 240 00:10:41,870 --> 00:10:43,110 It reignited the fl. 241 00:10:43,110 --> 00:10:46,950 The fire and the flame in me that I had felt early on. 242 00:10:47,030 --> 00:10:47,670 So were you. 243 00:10:47,670 --> 00:10:47,990 I. 244 00:10:48,070 --> 00:10:52,710 Were you involved with any other faith community prior to exploring 245 00:10:52,710 --> 00:10:53,670 Heming Church? 246 00:10:54,230 --> 00:10:58,070 So when I was growing up, there was a hometown church down 247 00:10:58,070 --> 00:11:00,230 there, New Providence Baptist Church. 248 00:11:01,730 --> 00:11:05,250 We went there growing up again with my friend and her family. 249 00:11:05,330 --> 00:11:06,370 They're very involved. 250 00:11:06,690 --> 00:11:07,890 Her father's one of the. 251 00:11:08,130 --> 00:11:09,650 An associate pastor there. 252 00:11:10,050 --> 00:11:10,450 And. 253 00:11:11,170 --> 00:11:12,730 And so, you know, very involved. 254 00:11:12,730 --> 00:11:15,330 I, you know, kind of always had that as a home base. 255 00:11:15,650 --> 00:11:18,210 So when I'd go home, I'd go back to that church or anything. 256 00:11:20,370 --> 00:11:21,890 No, no, no. 257 00:11:21,890 --> 00:11:22,650 So I had kind of. 258 00:11:22,650 --> 00:11:22,890 Yeah. 259 00:11:22,890 --> 00:11:26,330 No, in adulthood, college and then into adulthood, I never had 260 00:11:26,330 --> 00:11:27,570 found another, like, home. 261 00:11:28,650 --> 00:11:31,530 What I missed in the end here, Krista, is kind of some initial impressions 262 00:11:31,530 --> 00:11:32,010 that you had. 263 00:11:32,010 --> 00:11:35,850 You know, you had this experience of Joanna, you know, her 264 00:11:35,850 --> 00:11:40,970 as your friend and you, Ross, kind of as the kid brother hanging 265 00:11:40,970 --> 00:11:41,130 around. 266 00:11:41,130 --> 00:11:42,570 That kind of stuff, I would assume. 267 00:11:43,210 --> 00:11:43,770 And then. 268 00:11:43,850 --> 00:11:47,450 But give me some initial impressions by when you connected 269 00:11:47,450 --> 00:11:50,970 up with the beginnings of the church several years ago now. 270 00:11:51,450 --> 00:11:51,970 Yeah. 271 00:11:51,970 --> 00:11:52,930 So first impressions. 272 00:11:52,930 --> 00:11:53,410 Yeah. 273 00:11:53,410 --> 00:11:54,930 So, I mean, again, it was that. 274 00:11:54,930 --> 00:11:56,210 That spark, that kind of. 275 00:11:56,210 --> 00:11:59,910 I felt, you know, where there had been a. Reignited the flame then 276 00:11:59,910 --> 00:12:03,270 also, I was like, there's something different. 277 00:12:04,150 --> 00:12:06,870 There's something different about how it feels. 278 00:12:06,950 --> 00:12:09,750 And it just felt more natural and organic. 279 00:12:09,990 --> 00:12:14,870 And I really tried to not have that biased or, you know, that. 280 00:12:15,110 --> 00:12:16,710 Because, you know, again, little brother. 281 00:12:16,710 --> 00:12:16,950 Right. 282 00:12:16,950 --> 00:12:17,870 He's like my little brother. 283 00:12:17,870 --> 00:12:20,150 So of course I'm going to support and love, you know, what. 284 00:12:20,150 --> 00:12:21,110 What we're doing here. 285 00:12:21,110 --> 00:12:24,230 But it was like, you know, I wanted to feel it for, like, as I'm 286 00:12:24,230 --> 00:12:27,670 a person coming in and, like, you know, experiencing it. 287 00:12:27,670 --> 00:12:28,710 Not with that bias. 288 00:12:28,870 --> 00:12:29,230 Yeah. 289 00:12:29,230 --> 00:12:30,860 It's a little deeper thing to get connected. 290 00:12:31,490 --> 00:12:31,810 Yeah. 291 00:12:32,210 --> 00:12:32,650 Yeah. 292 00:12:32,650 --> 00:12:36,810 And when you felt that and saw that happening, you know, with new, 293 00:12:36,810 --> 00:12:39,530 you know, with strangers or with people that I had never, you 294 00:12:39,530 --> 00:12:42,450 know, met, and then you get back to that feeling of knowing that, 295 00:12:42,450 --> 00:12:45,170 like, people are placed in your life for a reason. 296 00:12:45,330 --> 00:12:48,650 People are, you know, things happen at the times that they happen 297 00:12:48,650 --> 00:12:49,210 for a reason. 298 00:12:49,210 --> 00:12:50,610 You're starting to kind of see those. 299 00:12:50,850 --> 00:12:54,050 Those glimmers or those, you know, your reminders of, like, okay, 300 00:12:54,050 --> 00:12:54,570 yeah, this. 301 00:12:54,570 --> 00:12:55,890 We're part of something bigger. 302 00:12:55,890 --> 00:12:56,450 Yeah. 303 00:12:57,010 --> 00:13:01,330 Was there any time in that arrow when you kind of had kind of 304 00:13:01,330 --> 00:13:04,130 an aha moment kind of, okay, is this. 305 00:13:04,130 --> 00:13:07,290 Just checking it out, being supportive, this kind of thing. 306 00:13:07,290 --> 00:13:12,570 But this is, for me now, was there any moment or any season of 307 00:13:12,570 --> 00:13:15,570 life when you kind of said, okay, I'm going to get invested in 308 00:13:15,570 --> 00:13:15,810 this? 309 00:13:16,610 --> 00:13:17,010 It. 310 00:13:17,090 --> 00:13:20,130 You know, honestly, in the beginning, it was, you know, I got 311 00:13:20,130 --> 00:13:24,970 really kind of consistently and deeply involved when the move 312 00:13:24,970 --> 00:13:27,650 was happening from Johnson's to this building, actually. 313 00:13:28,290 --> 00:13:29,970 And, you know, I actually. 314 00:13:29,970 --> 00:13:34,830 Russ had asked us, myself and another friend to join the board. 315 00:13:35,470 --> 00:13:40,950 And so I was getting a little bit deeper involved with the relationship 316 00:13:40,950 --> 00:13:41,310 here. 317 00:13:41,710 --> 00:13:45,870 And then seeing that migration to this building, how that process 318 00:13:45,950 --> 00:13:46,350 went. 319 00:13:47,230 --> 00:13:50,430 And then it was like I had that, you know, I again felt that 320 00:13:50,430 --> 00:13:50,910 spark. 321 00:13:52,110 --> 00:13:55,430 But then it was like, as you met people or started to have different 322 00:13:55,430 --> 00:13:58,390 conversations and saw how things come together with, like, 323 00:13:58,390 --> 00:14:02,070 a church plant, it was like, again, getting, you know, having 324 00:14:02,070 --> 00:14:04,970 that, like, validation inside of your heart and that peace. 325 00:14:04,970 --> 00:14:06,330 So, like, overall joy. 326 00:14:06,650 --> 00:14:10,690 But then immediately after all of that was Covid, and I actually 327 00:14:10,690 --> 00:14:13,330 had, like, a really hard struggle with that because I was 328 00:14:13,330 --> 00:14:17,570 planning a wedding in Covid, and we ended up having to postpone 329 00:14:17,570 --> 00:14:17,850 it. 330 00:14:17,850 --> 00:14:22,810 And it just felt like there was a lot of uncertainty, unknowns, 331 00:14:22,810 --> 00:14:25,850 and we were able to still be connected as the church through that. 332 00:14:26,010 --> 00:14:28,370 And so that just really, like, bonded. 333 00:14:28,370 --> 00:14:31,310 And like, that's where I started to feel like, like more of 334 00:14:31,310 --> 00:14:33,390 that community versus just, I'm here for support. 335 00:14:33,550 --> 00:14:37,870 It was a time going through that really crucible type of experience 336 00:14:37,870 --> 00:14:38,270 together. 337 00:14:38,270 --> 00:14:40,910 You came out of the other side, and here you are. 338 00:14:40,910 --> 00:14:44,150 You're still a part of things, even more committed than ever seemed 339 00:14:44,150 --> 00:14:44,670 like to me. 340 00:14:44,670 --> 00:14:48,950 But what do you think that's kind of how you got involved and 341 00:14:48,950 --> 00:14:50,990 you went through this crucible experience here. 342 00:14:51,470 --> 00:14:53,590 So what keeps you at heaven or church? 343 00:14:53,590 --> 00:14:54,990 What keeps you here again? 344 00:14:55,150 --> 00:14:57,470 You know, community at the people, the. 345 00:14:58,840 --> 00:15:02,840 The transparency, the fact that we are able to come as we are, 346 00:15:04,040 --> 00:15:06,440 that all questions are welcome. 347 00:15:07,400 --> 00:15:08,840 We're not, you know, put. 348 00:15:08,840 --> 00:15:12,280 We're not trying to fit everything into the square box. 349 00:15:13,080 --> 00:15:13,560 That's. 350 00:15:13,560 --> 00:15:15,240 That's a big thing that keeps me here. 351 00:15:15,880 --> 00:15:19,240 One of the things we could set about having our church and one of 352 00:15:19,240 --> 00:15:20,600 the models at the church to be. 353 00:15:21,240 --> 00:15:23,480 If you feel like you don't fit the church, you're sitting here. 354 00:15:24,370 --> 00:15:26,130 Tell me, do you think that's an accurate statement? 355 00:15:26,130 --> 00:15:27,010 And a soul. 356 00:15:27,810 --> 00:15:29,570 How have you seen that lived out? 357 00:15:29,890 --> 00:15:30,330 Yeah. 358 00:15:30,330 --> 00:15:30,770 So I. 359 00:15:31,010 --> 00:15:33,450 You know, one thing I always tell people when they first come 360 00:15:33,450 --> 00:15:35,010 is like, we're just a bunch of misfits. 361 00:15:35,170 --> 00:15:38,210 And, you know, we're Just all still trying to figure it out ourselves. 362 00:15:38,210 --> 00:15:42,690 Nobody has the answer, you know, and so I definitely see that. 363 00:15:42,690 --> 00:15:43,010 I. 364 00:15:43,810 --> 00:15:44,170 The. 365 00:15:44,170 --> 00:15:47,890 Just the various demographics of everybody that can come together 366 00:15:47,890 --> 00:15:48,930 here and that. 367 00:15:49,170 --> 00:15:53,570 Just the fellowship that you see amongst us and the welcoming, 368 00:15:54,210 --> 00:15:54,400 it's. 369 00:15:54,470 --> 00:15:54,670 It. 370 00:15:54,670 --> 00:15:57,870 There's something different about when you're here with everybody, 371 00:15:57,870 --> 00:15:58,390 and it's. 372 00:15:58,390 --> 00:15:59,750 It's hard to put it into words. 373 00:16:00,950 --> 00:16:06,190 Yeah, I think your partial story is indicative of that. 374 00:16:06,190 --> 00:16:06,550 And. 375 00:16:07,110 --> 00:16:09,910 And it seemed like you've seen this happening, this transition happening 376 00:16:09,910 --> 00:16:10,710 with other people. 377 00:16:11,430 --> 00:16:13,630 You don't have to give names or anything like that, but have you 378 00:16:13,630 --> 00:16:15,630 seen that type of thing happen with other people where they've kind 379 00:16:15,630 --> 00:16:19,510 of had their own aha moment, where they had their own kind of 380 00:16:19,670 --> 00:16:21,230 powerful transition? 381 00:16:21,230 --> 00:16:21,950 Oh, yeah. 382 00:16:22,270 --> 00:16:25,030 And, you know, kind of going back to when you asked me about my 383 00:16:25,030 --> 00:16:28,190 aha moment, this kind of feeds into that a little bit because I 384 00:16:28,190 --> 00:16:33,310 had a very big second one that was like when I was on the board 385 00:16:33,310 --> 00:16:36,670 and we were searching for a new administrative person and some 386 00:16:36,670 --> 00:16:37,630 of the changes that we had. 387 00:16:37,630 --> 00:16:41,670 A few years ago, Ross asked us to, you know, we were going to have 388 00:16:41,670 --> 00:16:45,270 a silent prayer time and to just think about any names that possibly 389 00:16:45,270 --> 00:16:46,030 came to mind. 390 00:16:46,950 --> 00:16:49,430 And I know she won't mind if I say this, but. 391 00:16:49,670 --> 00:16:53,110 So Ashley, who ended up working here, her name actually came 392 00:16:53,110 --> 00:16:57,190 to my mind at that point when we were silently praying. 393 00:16:57,190 --> 00:17:00,790 And in the moment, I kind of was like, oh, I can't really like. 394 00:17:01,510 --> 00:17:03,030 Cause I knew he was gonna ask us. 395 00:17:03,030 --> 00:17:06,270 And I felt weird because I had this name just repeat over and over 396 00:17:06,270 --> 00:17:06,830 in my head. 397 00:17:06,830 --> 00:17:07,990 She was an acquaintance. 398 00:17:08,390 --> 00:17:09,390 Not necessarily. 399 00:17:09,390 --> 00:17:12,670 I mean, she was a friend, but not somebody I was super close with 400 00:17:12,670 --> 00:17:13,750 or somebody I hung out with. 401 00:17:13,750 --> 00:17:15,710 So there was no reason that her name should have really been 402 00:17:15,710 --> 00:17:17,110 on my mind in that moment. 403 00:17:17,350 --> 00:17:20,650 And when we said, okay, you know, dear Heavenly Father, we went 404 00:17:20,650 --> 00:17:21,210 down to pray. 405 00:17:21,210 --> 00:17:24,410 It was just like her name just kept repeating over and over and 406 00:17:24,410 --> 00:17:24,690 over. 407 00:17:25,170 --> 00:17:28,490 And so then she ended up working here for the time that she 408 00:17:28,490 --> 00:17:31,890 did, and it was definitely, like, complete godsend. 409 00:17:31,890 --> 00:17:34,690 Like, we needed her, she needed us in that time. 410 00:17:35,010 --> 00:17:38,450 I reached out after, so we talked about it on the prayer. 411 00:17:38,450 --> 00:17:39,930 I was very, like, kind of like, whoa. 412 00:17:39,930 --> 00:17:40,610 What happened? 413 00:17:40,770 --> 00:17:42,730 Reached out to her and just was like, hey, I know this might 414 00:17:42,730 --> 00:17:44,730 sound weird, but this is what happened. 415 00:17:44,730 --> 00:17:45,250 And I just. 416 00:17:45,250 --> 00:17:47,690 If you're interested or looking for a job right now, I'd 417 00:17:47,690 --> 00:17:48,530 love to get you connected. 418 00:17:48,530 --> 00:17:51,910 And her and Ross talked and, you know, the rest was history. 419 00:17:52,070 --> 00:17:52,470 So. 420 00:17:53,350 --> 00:17:55,070 So, yeah, felt like it was a God moment. 421 00:17:55,070 --> 00:17:58,030 For her and for the church, but also an affirming moment for 422 00:17:58,030 --> 00:17:58,510 you as well. 423 00:17:58,510 --> 00:18:01,590 It's kind of God's in this thing. 424 00:18:01,590 --> 00:18:05,870 I like, you know, kind of see those as, oh, God moments or love 425 00:18:05,870 --> 00:18:06,590 in the throat moments. 426 00:18:06,590 --> 00:18:08,070 You go, okay, there's something cool. 427 00:18:08,790 --> 00:18:09,510 Yeah, it. 428 00:18:09,590 --> 00:18:09,950 You. 429 00:18:09,950 --> 00:18:10,230 You. 430 00:18:10,230 --> 00:18:10,910 You felt like. 431 00:18:10,910 --> 00:18:11,390 And it's like. 432 00:18:11,390 --> 00:18:14,350 And then I saw the entire thing play out from start to finish. 433 00:18:14,350 --> 00:18:18,550 And it's like, that's where I am really focused on trying to, like, 434 00:18:19,350 --> 00:18:22,870 listen for God to speak to me because I do think that he's constantly 435 00:18:22,870 --> 00:18:23,510 speaking to us. 436 00:18:23,510 --> 00:18:26,790 And like, I laugh and say he's in a recalculating moment because 437 00:18:26,790 --> 00:18:29,270 we're constantly turning left when we should turn right. 438 00:18:30,230 --> 00:18:34,870 But, you know, trying to really tune out all the other minutia 439 00:18:34,870 --> 00:18:38,190 and noise and listen to the Holy Spirit talk to me to tell me 440 00:18:38,190 --> 00:18:39,750 what God's trying to guide us to do. 441 00:18:40,150 --> 00:18:42,430 It's very hard and way easier said than done. 442 00:18:42,430 --> 00:18:44,960 But because I've had that experience, I know that it is like, 443 00:18:45,510 --> 00:18:46,070 it can happen. 444 00:18:47,670 --> 00:18:49,110 Recalculating moment. 445 00:18:49,590 --> 00:18:52,990 That's kind of like on your GPS system, kind of recalculate your 446 00:18:52,990 --> 00:18:53,990 directions or whatever. 447 00:18:54,070 --> 00:18:54,550 Yes. 448 00:18:54,630 --> 00:18:56,830 And sound like you had that experience yourself. 449 00:18:56,830 --> 00:18:57,070 But. 450 00:18:57,070 --> 00:18:57,430 Yeah. 451 00:18:57,910 --> 00:19:04,030 Do you see having our church as kind of a safe place, as it were, 452 00:19:04,030 --> 00:19:06,230 for people to have those recalculating money? 453 00:19:06,550 --> 00:19:07,350 Absolutely. 454 00:19:07,350 --> 00:19:10,310 That's what I mean when it's like, all questions are welcome. 455 00:19:10,310 --> 00:19:13,870 You know, one thing that Ross says a lot, especially when he's 456 00:19:13,870 --> 00:19:16,860 praying, is, you know, lord, help our belief, but also. 457 00:19:16,930 --> 00:19:18,130 Also help our unbelief. 458 00:19:18,370 --> 00:19:21,850 And, you know, that to me, is that, like, you know, it's okay to 459 00:19:21,850 --> 00:19:25,130 have those questions and just, you know, kind of something he was 460 00:19:25,130 --> 00:19:30,570 saying, you know, today is, you know, prayer is a conversation 461 00:19:30,570 --> 00:19:31,090 with God. 462 00:19:31,090 --> 00:19:34,850 I mean, you're just speaking out what's on your heart and mind 463 00:19:34,850 --> 00:19:35,170 already. 464 00:19:35,330 --> 00:19:38,490 And, you know, I even shared, you know, he knows what's in your 465 00:19:38,490 --> 00:19:39,250 heart and mind already. 466 00:19:39,410 --> 00:19:42,490 So why are we trying to worry about how we're presenting that to 467 00:19:42,490 --> 00:19:42,770 him? 468 00:19:43,930 --> 00:19:44,890 One of the things that. 469 00:19:44,970 --> 00:19:48,090 One of the parts of the mission statement of our church is 470 00:19:48,090 --> 00:19:51,850 to we exist to make a lasting impact in our community. 471 00:19:52,810 --> 00:19:54,290 So what does that statement mean to you? 472 00:19:54,290 --> 00:19:55,690 Do you think it's accurate, for one thing? 473 00:19:55,690 --> 00:19:55,890 And. 474 00:19:55,890 --> 00:19:57,130 But then what does it mean to you? 475 00:19:57,290 --> 00:20:00,530 Yeah, I mean, to see the relationships that we have forged 476 00:20:00,530 --> 00:20:04,730 so far in this community and with the various groups out there 477 00:20:04,730 --> 00:20:08,130 that are just out there helping any, you know, anyone that 478 00:20:08,130 --> 00:20:09,450 they can or, you know, in their. 479 00:20:09,450 --> 00:20:09,780 In their. 480 00:20:09,930 --> 00:20:13,730 Or specific Areas where they help, if it's kids related, if it's, 481 00:20:13,730 --> 00:20:17,050 you know, adults related, homeless related, different things 482 00:20:17,050 --> 00:20:20,450 that we've been in tune with and the experiences that we've been 483 00:20:20,450 --> 00:20:24,650 able to kind of experience together in our community. 484 00:20:24,890 --> 00:20:25,330 It's. 485 00:20:25,330 --> 00:20:27,170 It's been something amazing to watch. 486 00:20:27,170 --> 00:20:30,210 And so it's like, I do feel like that is something that is super 487 00:20:30,210 --> 00:20:30,650 focused. 488 00:20:30,650 --> 00:20:35,170 And I think that too is what is different, especially in the way 489 00:20:35,170 --> 00:20:37,610 that we look in the recovery space. 490 00:20:38,410 --> 00:20:43,190 I think that's such a needed thing in our, in our area, in our 491 00:20:43,190 --> 00:20:43,510 state. 492 00:20:44,230 --> 00:20:47,110 And I think that, you know, the fact that we touch so deeply 493 00:20:47,110 --> 00:20:50,470 into that, it really proves to say like we are about the community 494 00:20:51,350 --> 00:20:53,150 and all of it good, bad and ugly. 495 00:20:53,150 --> 00:20:53,510 Right. 496 00:20:54,790 --> 00:20:57,350 You mentioned there about the recovery community and that one area. 497 00:20:57,350 --> 00:20:59,350 Where am I church? 498 00:20:59,430 --> 00:21:02,190 60 people who have various levels of brokenness in their life 499 00:21:02,190 --> 00:21:03,990 and distress in their life. 500 00:21:03,990 --> 00:21:07,750 And I want to turn around this, kind of bring our conversation 501 00:21:07,750 --> 00:21:09,430 to close next couple of minutes here. 502 00:21:09,510 --> 00:21:10,350 Chris, with this. 503 00:21:10,350 --> 00:21:16,310 What do you think if a person was in your life, a co worker, a 504 00:21:16,310 --> 00:21:24,110 friend, a person that, you know, relative perhaps has some issue 505 00:21:24,110 --> 00:21:26,829 in their life that's pretty sensitive, whether it be whatever, 506 00:21:26,829 --> 00:21:30,710 health delay, relationship issue, job related, you know, they're 507 00:21:30,710 --> 00:21:33,030 having some distress and they've confided in you about it. 508 00:21:33,030 --> 00:21:35,990 And I got a feeling you're the type of pre person that you vote 509 00:21:36,560 --> 00:21:37,280 go to sometimes. 510 00:21:37,280 --> 00:21:38,320 Is that a fair thing to say? 511 00:21:38,320 --> 00:21:39,760 Yes, very much so. 512 00:21:40,320 --> 00:21:41,440 But is this the. 513 00:21:42,000 --> 00:21:45,280 Is heaven or church the type of place that you'd feel comfortable 514 00:21:46,080 --> 00:21:50,200 inviting someone to make a part of their process of navigating 515 00:21:50,200 --> 00:21:53,120 their issue, part of us sharing with you? 516 00:21:53,120 --> 00:21:56,320 But you could you feel this type of place that they, that you 517 00:21:56,320 --> 00:21:59,520 would feel comfortable inviting them and for them to be. 518 00:22:00,240 --> 00:22:01,440 To take the next steps? 519 00:22:02,000 --> 00:22:03,040 Yeah, absolutely. 520 00:22:03,120 --> 00:22:08,080 I love the fact that we offer our live stream of, of what we do 521 00:22:08,220 --> 00:22:11,100 here because I feel like that's a very good way for people 522 00:22:11,100 --> 00:22:15,100 to kind of dip their toes in, if you will, for lack of a better 523 00:22:15,100 --> 00:22:15,380 term. 524 00:22:15,380 --> 00:22:18,620 And, you know, they can kind of get a feel for the experience. 525 00:22:19,340 --> 00:22:21,180 You know, you are right. 526 00:22:21,180 --> 00:22:25,980 I do have, you know, friends do come to me a lot and I, I always, 527 00:22:25,980 --> 00:22:29,660 you know, let them know, like I'm very open and I share, you know, 528 00:22:29,660 --> 00:22:33,260 on Facebook, my relationship with our church and you know, that 529 00:22:33,260 --> 00:22:34,020 I'm very involved. 530 00:22:34,020 --> 00:22:36,940 And so people know that I'm gonna, you know, probably recommend 531 00:22:36,940 --> 00:22:37,180 that. 532 00:22:37,180 --> 00:22:40,390 And they also know I'm not gonna judge them if they don't decide 533 00:22:40,390 --> 00:22:41,510 to take part in it. 534 00:22:41,510 --> 00:22:44,870 But, but I absolutely let them know that like this is a place that 535 00:22:44,870 --> 00:22:48,070 I've found some peace and comfort and I just invite them in 536 00:22:48,070 --> 00:22:50,150 and let them know like they're going to come here and they're going 537 00:22:50,150 --> 00:22:53,870 to receive, you know, openness, welcomeness and you know, 538 00:22:53,870 --> 00:22:55,310 not no judgment. 539 00:22:55,710 --> 00:22:56,430 And so. 540 00:22:56,670 --> 00:22:58,910 But I let them know it's on their terms as well. 541 00:23:00,190 --> 00:23:02,630 Well, let's put it this kind of closer conversation with this. 542 00:23:02,630 --> 00:23:04,750 And Krista, you've mentioned about how other people have come 543 00:23:04,750 --> 00:23:06,830 to you and you've been able to share in your future. 544 00:23:06,980 --> 00:23:09,820 You'll have urgent couple of place but let's just say there's 545 00:23:09,820 --> 00:23:12,940 people, somebody watching, listening to our conversation here 546 00:23:12,940 --> 00:23:16,300 today who's having their own issues going on. 547 00:23:16,300 --> 00:23:19,740 They may not know you or me or others, but would you just share 548 00:23:19,740 --> 00:23:24,020 that person that, why that they, that heaven or church may be 549 00:23:24,020 --> 00:23:24,300 placed. 550 00:23:24,300 --> 00:23:26,500 They may want to at least check out? 551 00:23:26,980 --> 00:23:27,460 Yeah. 552 00:23:27,540 --> 00:23:31,580 I mean again, it's that some things that words just may not be 553 00:23:31,580 --> 00:23:34,660 the best way to describe it until you come and experience it. 554 00:23:34,660 --> 00:23:36,860 But I'm always one of those people that like, don't knock it 555 00:23:36,860 --> 00:23:37,540 till you try it. 556 00:23:37,540 --> 00:23:37,860 Right. 557 00:23:37,940 --> 00:23:40,240 And you never know what you're going to get. 558 00:23:40,240 --> 00:23:45,520 And if, you know, you come and meet a few people and you, you know, 559 00:23:45,600 --> 00:23:47,680 maybe, you know, are enlightened, what. 560 00:23:47,680 --> 00:23:49,200 What's the harm in that, you know. 561 00:23:49,200 --> 00:23:52,560 So I just think, you know, come and you know, experience what 562 00:23:52,560 --> 00:23:55,720 you can and hopefully, you know, you make a connection and, 563 00:23:55,720 --> 00:23:57,280 and want to come, maybe come back again. 564 00:23:58,160 --> 00:23:59,840 That's a relatively safe place to be. 565 00:23:59,840 --> 00:24:00,080 So. 566 00:24:00,080 --> 00:24:00,320 Right. 567 00:24:00,320 --> 00:24:02,560 Yes, 100% absolutely. 568 00:24:03,200 --> 00:24:06,000 Well, her name is Christy Stein. 569 00:24:06,000 --> 00:24:07,577 As she's indicated she'd been a of. 570 00:24:07,577 --> 00:24:07,650 Part. 571 00:24:07,800 --> 00:24:11,240 Part of the connection here at Heaven Church for several years now. 572 00:24:11,240 --> 00:24:12,680 Six, seven years, something like that. 573 00:24:12,680 --> 00:24:14,920 Yeah, yeah, right at about six. 574 00:24:15,160 --> 00:24:19,960 And person that you need to know here at Heaven Earth Church. 575 00:24:19,960 --> 00:24:25,040 And thank you for being our guest today and just we love to have 576 00:24:25,040 --> 00:24:28,360 good conversations with people like Christy and others here on Heaven. 577 00:24:28,360 --> 00:24:29,480 Earth to Church podcast. 578 00:24:29,480 --> 00:24:33,600 We invite people to chat about the worship experiences Sunday mornings 579 00:24:33,600 --> 00:24:38,850 on Reading street and White Men Indiana and online@YouTube.com 580 00:24:39,570 --> 00:24:41,650 church and on Facebook too. 581 00:24:42,130 --> 00:24:45,330 But we look for people to be connected to a. 582 00:24:45,890 --> 00:24:49,250 A church whose mission is to make a lasting impact in our community. 583 00:24:50,130 --> 00:24:53,250 So I'm Brad Miller here with the Heaven Church podcast and on 584 00:24:53,250 --> 00:24:55,650 behalf of our guest Christy Stone, we thank you for being a part 585 00:24:55,650 --> 00:24:58,650 of our broadcast and look forward to serving you very soon 586 00:24:58,650 --> 00:24:59,430 at Heaven or Church. 587 00:25:01,500 --> 00:25:03,820 We want to thank you for spending time with us today. 588 00:25:03,980 --> 00:25:07,340 My name is Ross Stackhouse, the pastor to Heaven Earth Church, 589 00:25:07,740 --> 00:25:11,060 and you may think out there that your story is over, but in fact, 590 00:25:11,060 --> 00:25:14,220 your faith story may just be beginning. 591 00:25:14,460 --> 00:25:17,300 If you want more information about our church or you're interested 592 00:25:17,300 --> 00:25:21,340 in the next step, you can go to heavenorthchurch.org Otherwise, 593 00:25:21,340 --> 00:25:24,500 we look forward to being with you next time at the Heaven Earth 594 00:25:24,500 --> 00:25:25,500 Church podcast.