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Speaker BAll right, welcome Back to episode three of the Sales 101 Beginner Series.
Speaker BIt's beginner sales foundations and it's good for everybody.
Speaker BGetting back to the fundamentals is crucial.
Speaker BThis is the perfect time of year to do it right at the end of the year.
Speaker BIt's a great time to reset before we move into this next year.
Speaker BAnd if whenever you're listening, it's always a great exercise to get back to the fundamentals and remember why you're there.
Speaker BSo today we are talking about this is episode three, because really, most sales conversations don't stall because of price.
Speaker BI hear this all the time.
Speaker BIn fact, I got my very first hate mail from somebody I sent out in my weekly if you want to be actually on my weekly newsletter, email me sam closeitnow.net and I will put you on the weekly newsletter.
Speaker BI give a weekly little coaching moment, announce podcasts, let you know about events that are coming out.
Speaker BThere's a speaking event that I am going to be speaking at all of these things.
Speaker BSo announce that anytime there's openings in the coaching calendar and different promotions and things.
Speaker BIt's not just a sales newsletter.
Speaker BYes, I'm going to let you know periodically.
Speaker BI will, like my friend Scott Bell says, periodically I'll try to sell you something.
Speaker BBut more than anything, it's being aware of what's available and how to work with me and how to work with closeit now.
Speaker BBut most of the newsletter, the weekly email is content.
Speaker BIt's different tips, different links to things.
Speaker BThere's a lot of stuff that goes into that that not everyone else gets.
Speaker BSo if you want to be in the newsletter, email me sam closeitnow.net and I'll put you on that list.
Speaker BAwesome.
Speaker BSo as we get into this, one of the interesting things so Speaking of that hate mail, so I sent out my weekly newsletter this week and I got a hate mail from somebody that said, wr, you know, stop.
Speaker BStop lying to people.
Speaker BIt's price, price, price.
Speaker BEverything is price.
Speaker BPeople only care about price right now with the bad economy.
Speaker BWell, I'm here to tell you that's not true.
Speaker BI've been in this long enough, been doing this 20 years.
Speaker BI've sold, you know, high level equipment at incredible prices for years in up economies and down economies.
Speaker BSo what happens in a bad economy?
Speaker BI'll do a whole episode on this.
Speaker BIt doesn't mean that people aren't willing and ready to invest.
Speaker BYou just have to go a little bit extra into showing more value.
Speaker BPeople are happy to invest if the value is there.
Speaker BAnd so that's a big part of what the conversation in this Close it now podcast is about.
Speaker BHow do we provide and show value in a way that communicates correctly, in a way that they understand the way they feel heard, the way they feel understood, which is what today's episode is about.
Speaker BAnd people will happily pay the invest in their home with the prices that you're asking.
Speaker BSo no, it's not about price.
Speaker BIn fact, this guy ended the email.
Speaker BI'm not going to push anybody under the bus ended the email with a clown emoji and a poop emoji.
Speaker BAnd it made me crack up.
Speaker BIt was my very first hate mail.
Speaker BI'm going to create some content around it and that's how I know I'm starting to do things right.
Speaker BWhen you have a little group of haters, it's kind of fun.
Speaker BThey almost frame this, almost like the first dollar that the company make, you know, and so it's, it's really fun conversation.
Speaker BBut the thing is, most sales conversations don't stall because of price.
Speaker BThey stall because the homeowner doesn't feel understood.
Speaker BNot heard, not nodded at, understood.
Speaker BAnd so you can explain everything perfectly.
Speaker BYou can diagnose the problems correctly, you can even recommend the right solution and still lose the sell if the homeowner doesn't feel like you truly get what the situation has been like for them.
Speaker BSo today what we're going to do is break down step three in sales.
Speaker B101.
Speaker BShow you understand.
Speaker BSo before we get to that, I want to take a second and thank you everybody for listening.
Speaker BThis episode is releasing just after Christmas, so I hope you had a fantastic holidays.
Speaker BKwanzaa or Hanukkah.
Speaker BMerry, you know, Merry Christmas.
Speaker BHappy holidays to every single one of you.
Speaker BI'm Grateful for you here.
Speaker BGrateful that you are here listening in your drive time university.
Speaker BAnd yeah, I'd love to hear what big happened for you this holiday.
Speaker BWhat are you grateful for this year and during this holiday season?
Speaker BI know it's not always easy for everybody.
Speaker BThere's lots of reasons why it can be hard also.
Speaker BSo if you need somebody to talk to about that, I am here for you.
Speaker BRemember, I've got your back and I don't want to see anyone have a struggle through the holidays if you don't have to.
Speaker BSo reach out if you, if you need somebody, just a listening ear.
Speaker BI'm here for that as well.
Speaker BSo let's get into this a little bit because there's some really cool stuff going on.
Speaker BI love this series because, you know, getting back to basics is so crucial.
Speaker BYou know, in episode one, I referenced Vince Lombardi and how his very, very, very famous line now when he started training season the year after they lost the championship, actually looking back, I think this was probably even before they called it the Super Bowl.
Speaker BAnd so with the Green Bay packers, he started the next year's training with gentlemen, this is a football.
Speaker BAnd of course they were like, hey guys, we're professionals.
Speaker BBut then what he did is went on to retrain how to block, how to tackle, how to relearn the basic plays, all these types of things.
Speaker BThey went on to win five of the seven of the next year's championships, one of the most winningest runs in professional football.
Speaker BAnd so getting back to the basics is everything.
Speaker BAnd so that is, that's what we're doing today.
Speaker BSo so far in this series, episode one, we covered starting with clarity and a shared plan.
Speaker BEpisode 2, Stay curious before jumping to conclusions and go back and listen to those episodes in order.
Speaker BWhen you put them all together, it all makes total sense.
Speaker BAnd this is going to turn into a course where I'm going to, this is the highlight reel, just the barely the tip of the iceberg on each of these.
Speaker BSo I am putting together an entire course around this.
Speaker BSo message me if you want to get on the list for that when it comes out because it's going to be an excellent place to start your beginners at and for all of us to get a good refresher into the basics.
Speaker BThe core concepts that you have to have before you have to mess with learning scripts or anything else.
Speaker BYou have to understand the basic flow of a sales conversation and some of the basic principles.
Speaker BAnd these mindset pieces change everything.
Speaker BYou know, most trainers start with how to diagnose and they start from the technical side.
Speaker BBut when you have to learn how to communicate that, you know, it's very difficult to come from a technician's focus and get into the concepts if you don't start with these foundational pieces.
Speaker BSo that's why I'm putting this series together.
Speaker BSo now, episode three, we are @ the most, one of the most overlooked steps for beginners.
Speaker BThis is the bridge between discovery and solutions.
Speaker BAnd so it's the moment where the homeowner decides, usually without saying it out loud, this person understands me or this person is just trying to sell me something.
Speaker BThere's a very big difference in that.
Speaker BAnd so if you skip this step, everything after it is going to feel rushed.
Speaker BEven if you're not rushing, it all feels rushed if they don't feel understood.
Speaker BSo first of all, let's talk about why feeling understood drastically.
Speaker BDecisions.
Speaker BIt's been, you know, when, when, especially when we're coming up in sales, a lot of the times we think trust comes from your knowledge or your experience, your confidence, being able to explain things.
Speaker BWell, actually, where trust really comes from, it comes from alignment.
Speaker BSo people move forward when they feel like you understand their experience, you understand why this matters to them, and you're not guessing.
Speaker BSo that not guessing piece, of course, that is where confidence, experience, knowledge, all of that comes in.
Speaker BBut if the homeowner doesn't feel understood, their brain is gonna, their guard is gonna go up and those walls are gonna go up and guarded brains delay decisions.
Speaker BThat creates the think about it moments and we'll have to get back to you type of moments, because they don't feel understood in their situation.
Speaker BBecause remember, it doesn't matter the time of year.
Speaker BBut there's other.
Speaker BThe decision is always dramatically more complex than we think it is.
Speaker BWe step into our appointment and we're like, okay, well, you've got a problem, we can fix it.
Speaker BAnd why aren't they buying from us?
Speaker BBecause there's so many more pieces to the decision they're thinking about.
Speaker BThis is so low.
Speaker BIt's the highest priority for us because it's what we do.
Speaker BBut somewhere in their priority list, it's just something they have to deal with.
Speaker BAnd so there's so many other decisions they're thinking about, oh, I've got to pay for my kids college, or we've got a car note, or we've got all of these things.
Speaker BAnd also, who knows what's going on in their life?
Speaker BThere could be medical issues, there could be travel plans, they could be Making a decision between this and something else, some other improvement for their home, or something else entirely different.
Speaker BAnd so there's always so many complex layers to the decision.
Speaker BWe have to remember that in these conversations, one of the best ways to cut through that is to help them and show them that you truly understand not just the problem and solution, but what they're experiencing and what it's causing.
Speaker BAnd so when you, you know, showing you understand, you know this is understanding is not agreement, right?
Speaker BIf they're.
Speaker BThis is a really important clarification too.
Speaker BShowing you understand.
Speaker BHere's what it does not mean.
Speaker BIt does not mean you agree with every concern.
Speaker BIt does not mean you minimize the technical realities of what's going on.
Speaker BIt doesn't mean you avoid the uncomfortable truth of what's going on with their situation.
Speaker BIt means you can accurately reflect their perspective before offering yours.
Speaker BI'm going to say that again.
Speaker BUnderstanding means you can accurately reflect back their perspective before offering your perspective.
Speaker BSo understanding comes first, solutions come later.
Speaker BBecause remember, the goal here is the understanding.
Speaker BThe human first, the problem second, and the solution third.
Speaker BThat's your mantra.
Speaker BRemember, that is the mantra.
Speaker BSo, you know, a super common mistake that beginners make is we try to show understanding just strictly by repeating words back.
Speaker BYou know, we've heard all the different trainings.
Speaker BYou got to be a mirror, repeat back the last, last few words, etc.
Speaker BSo an example, we'll stick an H vac for this, but apply it to whatever industry you're in.
Speaker BAn example of doing this incorrectly is.
Speaker BSo you're saying the system is old and the bills are high.
Speaker BWell, yes, that's what they just said.
Speaker BThat's not understanding, that's just being a parrot back of what they just said.
Speaker BIt sounds mechanical.
Speaker BIt feels like you just got a checkbox.
Speaker BReal understanding and this is crucial for you to understand.
Speaker BReal understanding captures the meaning, not just the details.
Speaker BSo the, so I'm going to give you a structure of how to, how to show you understand.
Speaker BAnd this will help you both understand better as well as help them see that you truly understand.
Speaker BSo let's keep this extremely simple because this is sales 101.
Speaker BYou just have to get the concepts in this series.
Speaker BSo the three part structure here is acknowledge what they're experiencing, connect it to why it matters, and then confirm that you got it right.
Speaker BSo acknowledge what they're experiencing, connect it to why it matters, and they confirm you got it right.
Speaker BSo I'm going to give you an example line.
Speaker BI just, you know, this is Shooting from the hip.
Speaker BBut the example is, you know, just to give you an idea of the concept of what this could sound like.
Speaker BSo it sounds like this just isn't just about the system.
Speaker BIt's that you're frustrated dealing with the same issues every season, and it's starting to feel like a bigger hassle than it should be.
Speaker BDid I get that right?
Speaker BAnd this is a question.
Speaker BIt's not rhetorical.
Speaker BWait for an answer, then you stop talking.
Speaker BThe pause matters because when you pause and wait for an actual considered answer, this is crucial.
Speaker BSo why the pause?
Speaker BThis pause is everything.
Speaker BThere's so much power in the pause.
Speaker BThe silence is what starts to create the trust.
Speaker BAnd this is where trust is built.
Speaker BA lot of times we'll rush past this moment, but when you pause, the homeowner feels heard.
Speaker BThey step into agreement, and they will either clarify.
Speaker BVery, very often they're going to clarify or expand on it to make sure that we get it right.
Speaker BSo this is where we gain real clarity, not just for you, but also for them.
Speaker BAnd so if they correct you, that's a win.
Speaker BIf they add more detail, they're dropping gold nuggets for you to pick up so you can help them with the solutions better and more clearly.
Speaker BBut either way, the conversation is going to deepen to the place where now you're in alignment together with your homeowner to come up with the right solutions that make sense for them.
Speaker BSo here's how this step is going to prevent objections later.
Speaker BYou know, especially in sales, we get objections.
Speaker BAnd I get.
Speaker BAs you can imagine, I get the questions all the time.
Speaker BHow do I handle objections?
Speaker BEvery single time I put up, hey, what do you mean?
Speaker BTo train on some.
Speaker BTop of the list is always, hey, how do I handle objections better?
Speaker BEvery single time I train, it's always on the whiteboard goes, you know, how do we handle the price objection?
Speaker BHow do we handle three bids?
Speaker BHow do we handle, Like, I gotta talk to my spouse.
Speaker BHow do we handle, I gotta think about it.
Speaker BThen everything else is a variation of that.
Speaker BSo those are the only four possibilities.
Speaker BBut.
Speaker BSo how do we prevent objections from coming up later?
Speaker BWhen you skip showing understanding, what happens is the solutions that we recommend, they start to feel really disconnected.
Speaker BThe price starts to feel arbitrary because there's not a mental tie to why you're recommending what you're recommending.
Speaker BAnd now they don't see the value that's behind the price.
Speaker BThey don't understand everything that's going into that.
Speaker BAnd the objections start to show up later, Right?
Speaker BSo when you slow down and you show understanding now, your solutions are going to start to feel relevant.
Speaker BPrice is going to start to make a whole lot more sense and the resistance is going to drop naturally, because most objections are just delayed confusion from earlier in the conversation.
Speaker BThat's absolutely the case.
Speaker BAnytime somebody gets a consistent objection over and over and over, it's not your market, it's not your price, it's not all of these things.
Speaker BIt's something you're doing in your process that's planting the seed for that to come up later.
Speaker BSo most objections are just delayed confusion from earlier in the conversation.
Speaker BIs this good?
Speaker BI hope you've gotten value from this series.
Speaker BI really, really enjoyed putting this together for all of you.
Speaker BSo now let's get into the key here.
Speaker BUnderstanding before educating.
Speaker BYou know, anytime I do training, I always ask, you know, who thinks it's their job to educate?
Speaker BAnd every hand goes up, of course.
Speaker BNow, here's where the breakdown happens.
Speaker BMost of the time, people think the more and better I can educate the homeowner, that's going to close the deal.
Speaker BBut the truth is, it's not.
Speaker BPeople don't buy when they're more educated.
Speaker BThey buy when they feel safe.
Speaker BAnd safe is that safety piece, that trust.
Speaker BThat's the trust that creates that safe space is developed through truly understanding what they're experiencing.
Speaker BSo this is key.
Speaker BPeople don't feel understood when you explain things.
Speaker BThey feel understood when you reflect their experience back to them accurately.
Speaker BAnd not just the exact words, the meaning behind the words.
Speaker BSo education works after understanding, not before it.
Speaker BSo if you teach too early, it's going to feel like pressure.
Speaker BIf you reflect first, the education will feel helpful to clarify even further.
Speaker BBut if you teach too early, it feels like pressure because then you're just word vomiting on them.
Speaker BOh, you need the solution.
Speaker BYou need this thing and all of the way that we try to educate when we reflect first.
Speaker BEducation is now helpful and supports the conversation.
Speaker BIs this making sense, everybody?
Speaker BSo let's tie it back to the core identity statement.
Speaker BRemember, this is your mantra.
Speaker BMy job is to understand the human first, the problem second, and the solution last.
Speaker BSo my job is to understand the human first, the problem second, and the solution last.
Speaker BShowing you understand is proof that you honored those first two steps.
Speaker BSo if you can't clearly articulate their situation in a way they agree with, you are not ready to recommend anything yet.
Speaker BIf you do, you're only going to be bumping up against that brick wall of, hey, we Got to think about it because it's not clear for either way.
Speaker BSo you've got to be able to clearly voice back their situation, what they're experiencing in a way where they go, that's right, you nailed it.
Speaker BThat's it.
Speaker BAnd you know the second that it happens because the energy shifts in the appointment and you can feel the alignment.
Speaker BAnd so.
Speaker BAnd if you want to know more about that, of course I did a whole series on controlling the energy of the, of the appointment.
Speaker BSo go back and listen to that series.
Speaker BBut the thing is, you have to remember you don't need better scripts, you don't need to explain more, you don't need to impress anyone.
Speaker BYou're not there to impress them.
Speaker BYou've got to slow down long enough to show the homeowner, I understand what this has been like for you.
Speaker BWhen people feel understood, then they relax.
Speaker BWhen they relax, decisions get easier.
Speaker BAnd this is super important to remember.
Speaker BSo today we covered why feeling understood drives decisions, why understanding is not agreement.
Speaker BThe beginner mistake of just repeating the words back.
Speaker BA simple structure to show you, of course, how to understand.
Speaker BTo show you understand why the pause is critical, how this step prevents objections and how this fits into the human problem solutions order that we've established.
Speaker BSo remember, this is the thing to remember.
Speaker BShow you understand before you try to solve anything.
Speaker BAnd if you do that, as long as you do it in this order, you're gonna find your process is much, much smoother and better conversion.
Speaker BIt'll be received so much better.
Speaker BSo if this episode has helped you share it with someone who explains too much and listens too little and make sure that you, that you subscribe for episode four.
Speaker BSo if in YouTube like and subscribe where, what we're going to do is complete this foundation, episode four is going to be how to present simply and confidently, how to recommend solutions without pressure.
Speaker BAnd this is crucial because if they feel pressured or pushed that is very difficult to close, they're going to run away from you.
Speaker BAnd so when you present simply and confidently now, the solutions align with what their situation is because you truly understood it.
Speaker BSo thanks for listening.
Speaker BToday, a couple quick announcements.
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Speaker BNot going to do this forever.
Speaker BThat window of opportunity will be closing in 2026 because with the start of the door to door Institute, which is my next announcement, my bandwidth is going to be taken up a lot more.
Speaker BSo I won't be able to do these forever.
Speaker BSo capitalize on them while you can.
Speaker BSo two quick announcements.
Speaker BOne is I'm booking my calendar for 2026 for on site visits to come train your team.
Speaker BSo definitely reach out to me.
Speaker BEvery single time we do that, there's a huge bump in numbers.
Speaker BOf course.
Speaker BObviously numbers happen, close rates, average tickets.
Speaker BThis is lasting change though we're not talking about doing something that there's a bump but then they fall off because nobody remembers what they're doing.
Speaker BThis is true lasting change that when I worked with teams, they get lasting results.
Speaker BSo the lifetime value is incredible.
Speaker BSo message me about coming to your location and training your people.
Speaker BThe next is we've got some cool stuff going on and that.
Speaker BSo clarity there, that sales team, that service techs or both, it depends on, you know, what your focus is.
Speaker BAnd so we train, you know, sales and service or both.
Speaker BEither way, if you're selling techs, if you're not selling techs, you got a tech flip model.
Speaker BIf you got call by call, we're really well versed in all of those components so we can have a solid conversation around that.
Speaker BNext is the door to door Institute.
Speaker BIf you want to be able to put 100 appointments on your calendar in a really short amount of time, especially in all the seasons where you need work, you don't have to sit around and wait for people to call and be wondering, why isn't the phone ringing?
Speaker BWe can why isn't the phone ringing?
Speaker BWhy is nobody filling out the form?
Speaker BWhy is nobody responding to my social media ads?
Speaker BWhy is nobody responding to my pay per click?
Speaker BWhere's all the business?
Speaker BWe can go find it for you and put those appointments on your calendar.
Speaker BSo message me about that.
Speaker BIn fact, along with that, I wrote a guide.
Speaker BIt's a guerrilla marketing guide of how to get a consistent flow of leads year round without spending a dime online.
Speaker BYou can get your copy@doortodoorinstitute.com that's D O O R. Go grab your free guerrilla guide.
Speaker BAnd then there's a form on that website if you want to know more and have a conversation around what it would be like for us to come and put appointments on your calendar.
Speaker BFill that form out and get on our calendar and we'll have a good conversation.
Speaker BYou know, great conversation around that.
Speaker BAnd so those are the announcements.
Speaker BThank you all for listening.
Speaker BThank you for investing your time in Drive Time University.
Speaker BI appreciate every single one of you.
Speaker BStick around for the next episode where we're going to wrap this beginner's sales 101 series.
Speaker BAnd this is these, these concepts, these ideas, these are the steps to help you become someone worth buying.
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