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In this episode, we talk to Jonathan Hart,

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who is raising money to take some kids from Atlanta,

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all the way to the US Open.

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- We are talking today with Jonathan Hart

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and we have just heard a little bit about his story.

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I don't have my head fully wrapped around it yet, Jonathan.

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You've got Coach Wink, who maybe started it

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and he was doing a lot of the handling of this kind of thing,

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taking kids to the US Open.

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I think Eric Jackson has himself involved a little bit.

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So what I wanna do is say, Jonathan,

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please tell us about who you are and what is going on

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when getting these kids to the US Open.

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- Okay, well, my name is Jonathan Hart

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but as of late, it's been changed to Coach Hart

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but we've been taking kids to the US Open.

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I think the first year was 2013.

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This will be our eighth year taking them.

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Of course, we had a couple years we couldn't go

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because they had no attendance at the US Open during the pandemic.

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What happened was Coach Wink had taken the kids to first year.

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Then the second year he went to take them

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at the last minute they got canceled.

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I said, why?

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He says, well, we just didn't get enough money to go.

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I said, okay, that's not gonna happen again.

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So from that point, I came on in 2014.

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So we did, from that point on, from 15 all the way up

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and to now every year, we have made it happen.

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Again, the only thing that stopped us was the pandemic.

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Well, Coach Wink teach a lot of kids.

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I mean, he's sent a lot of kids to college

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but his forte was really smaller kids,

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which I kinda take care of now, okay?

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But this guy was a gym.

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I mean, he just affects so many lives

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and you know when you're dealing with a smaller kid,

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you're doing some mentoring big time.

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And I mean, just to keep them focused is a job.

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But yeah, so that's how it got started

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and it's just got bigger and bigger and better and better.

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And this year we're trying to make it bigger and better

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than ever in his memory.

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So yeah, that's how it got started and that's how I got involved.

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Okay, so you were helping raise funds?

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That was kinda your role?

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- At first, all I did was sponsor and raise funds,

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and then I would go on the trip and manage during the trip.

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So that was, I'm kinda good with kids

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and getting them all together.

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And when you look at the video, that's me

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on there getting everybody all hyped up and would have you.

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So that's what I would do.

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'Cause me, I'm a player.

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You see all these awards?

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I'm a national player.

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I travel all over the country playing tennis.

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That's what I like to do.

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But like I said, here recent in this last year or so,

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I am doing a lot of coaching.

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- Okay, and so how many kids you got this year?

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What's the target?

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We gotta get a number of kids?

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How much money do we need?

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Where are we because you're leaving soon, right?

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- Yes, we're leaving real soon.

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The number of kids is gonna be somewhere right above

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between 30 and 40, maybe 36.

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It's gonna be somewhere up in that number, okay?

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'Cause we always get some last people fall out

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and then some more people jump on.

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I just had a lady today.

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Oh my God, I've been trying to get a hold of you.

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I can't, you know, I gotta get my kid there.

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Okay, we got you, all right?

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But so yeah, that's the number.

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And what we're trying to raise is about 17,000

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that will get us over the hump, okay?

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And every day we're getting lower and lower.

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So yeah, that's about what's going on.

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- Okay, and what is that?

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And I wanna dive too much so we're giving

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any what number per kid that kind of thing.

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But what does that look like from a cost point of view?

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It's not just, you're not putting all these kids,

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are you putting them on a bus?

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Are you putting them on a flight?

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You have to have hotels?

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But what does that look like?

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- We go on a bus and boy, do we have fun on that bus?

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(laughs)

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We have a ball, we got some great movies,

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we got some great games, some great trivia, you know?

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And then of course we have some sleep time too.

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After we eat everybody falls asleep overnight.

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But the bus takes us up there and back.

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But we need the bus because when we get there,

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while we're there, like all during the day,

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we're at the Billie Jean Tennis Center, okay?

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And then we go to New York.

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Like we already have our Chenuary, our first day there,

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we'll be authorized kids day.

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Then we'll go to the concert,

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after the concert, we'll go to ground zero and freedom tower.

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- Nice.

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- And it's a lot of history there

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and a lot of kids don't really understand that today,

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actually see it, okay?

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So, and then the next day,

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we come to Pro Day, to me is what's like the best day

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because you can get right next to the Pro's, talk to them,

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unless they're Serena or Josephus,

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they got too much security.

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Otherwise, you can, you know, they'll talk.

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So we have made an appointment

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and it has been offered to us.

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We're gonna watch Coco practice

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and she's gonna do a meet and greet for us.

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Chris UBanks, who also came to our program,

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he's gonna meet and greet

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and he did that last year.

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He hit where our kids last year, okay?

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And we also have,

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Jermaine Jenkins has invited us out

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to a practice and meet and greet with ClareVic.

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I can't say her last name.

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You know, she won the Wilton Junior Grand Slam.

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- Right.

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- And I didn't mention but Jermaine Jenkins is now with Coco.

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So that's how we got that.

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He told us, hey, I can hook you up

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and he came through our program too,

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and they were little guys.

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- Nice, I've always found it's not who I know

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but it's who knows me.

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Like, I can't say I know that.

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I didn't answer part of that

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and the part I missed was this,

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it's $500 a kid, okay?

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- Okay.

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- Absolutely the parent pays that for the kid, okay?

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The ones that can afford it,

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some we have to make a way, all right?

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But that takes care of all your transportation.

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Take care of your hotel.

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We're staying at the beautiful graduate on Roosevelt Island,

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okay?

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And it takes care of your first round tickets

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and all the events we go to,

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when we go to Freedom Tower and, you know,

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and then we tour Harlem and our dinners already paid for

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at Melbus Restaurant.

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So for 54 people, so that's super great.

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- Sure, very nice.

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- And we ate their last year too, so.

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- Okay.

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- They're expecting us.

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And then the middle day, which is pro practice day,

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after at the end of that day,

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we take them and we try to stay late,

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so it gets dark and we take them to Times Square

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so they can experience Times Square at night,

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get to shop, you know,

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and frolic a little bit,

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then we go hit the hotel because the next day is opening day

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for the US Open.

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- And the first week, I heard this rumor,

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so you're buying tickets for the first round,

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but the first week in qualifying,

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those are free at the US Open.

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Don't they do a pretty good job

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of free events that first qualifying week?

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- Yes, but, you know, our kids are starting school

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so we can't take them up and keep them that long, okay?

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So they said--

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- Tennis is way more important than school, come on.

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(laughs)

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- They miss a day as it stands.

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So we, yeah, but you're right,

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the qualifying are free,

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but the day we arrived there,

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which is after ass kids day,

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is probably the second biggest day of the event.

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It is crazy, it's a madhouse.

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And it was great for us last year,

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'cause like I say, Chris, you banks hit with some of our kids.

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I think I sent you the video,

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if not, I'll send it to you.

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- Yeah.

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- And that's the kind of experience you can have

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if you get on the bus with us and go up there,

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that's the kind of thing that can happen for you.

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- I like it.

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And this is, so you have some families that pay for it,

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meaning if I have 500 bucks, I can send my kid,

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but if I don't have, if I don't have,

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let's say I don't have my own kid,

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or if I'm looking at donating,

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I'm trying to figure out how to help you raise the funds

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and say, okay, I wanna sponsor a kid, it's $500,

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but that's, you know what, everybody's got 10 bucks,

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which is really how you make something like this happen,

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is getting more people giving what's in their pocket right now

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that they can really, not everybody has a $500 to get.

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- Right, and that's what you see on our Gold Fund,

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and you see some people donate 500, $200, $10, 25,

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the average is about 40 or 50, okay,

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but after we collect all the fees from the parents

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and shaper loans who want to pay to go to, also,

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'cause that's a really cheap price to go to New York,

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and stay there and get all that for $500.

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And the guy from New York definitely knows that.

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But, but, yeah, so after we collect all the fees,

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we, that's about two thirds of what it costs.

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So then we need to have sponsorship and other money

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to make everything else happen.

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- Gotcha, and you get to talk to, as we spoke earlier,

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you've got some businesses involved,

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some local businesses that help out

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and other funding?

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- Yes, we have one, couple sponsors already,

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our sponsorships, the platinum is $5,000,

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our gold is $3,000, and the silver is $1,000,

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we have one business coming in at $3,000,

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the city of Atlanta is also a sponsor,

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we're waiting to hear from the mayor's office,

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but we got a city councilman,

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I got to shoot him out his props,

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Byron Amos, councilman Amos,

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he's gone for $4,000,

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constituent services, I met with them yesterday,

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so they asked me to send them a overnight letter,

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I did that, so maybe they will give us some more.

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And, but we met with several businesses yesterday,

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and the next few days,

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I'm expecting some of them to come in.

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- Nice, so what's the offer there?

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'Cause, everybody's got a little more experience

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with the sponsorships side of things than I do,

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but looking at numbers and looking at a business,

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as an example, if we were to come in and say,

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hey, we'd like to give you,

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we'd like to help you with this event,

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a business is gonna sometimes just say,

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here's some money we love to help kids,

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but also there's an exposure that those businesses are,

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where's my logo go?

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And when do I get my backlink to my website for my SEO?

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Do you have answers to some of those questions

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in a package that you hand out, or how does that work?

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- Yeah, I have all those answers,

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they're in the package,

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but since we're talking on the podcast now,

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we're a 501(c)(3)

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okay, so it's a tax write off, available for you, okay?

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We will put you on all our social media,

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we will also thank you, the kids will thank you on video,

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and so your t-shirt to be there will work,

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'cause we're gonna get a lot of video coverage

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when we were Coco and Chris, especially,

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probably ClareVit too.

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Actually, one of our kids,

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she's about 17, I think, one of our kids is,

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I suppose to actually hit with ClareVit,

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so that would be fantastic.

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Oh yeah.

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Very good, her name is Cherish.

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I can't remember Cherish's last name, but she's a baller.

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So, yeah, but the businesses,

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they get all the bells and whistles that we can provide.

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- Gotcha, yeah, 'cause sometimes the numbers

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is say, okay, well, my logo's on the back of the shirt,

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you get all those questions, but say,

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look, we're gonna do videos,

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we're putting it out on social media,

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which seems to be a thing that everybody likes,

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'cause we like to connect,

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we like that engagement,

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and everybody likes to see kids happy and watchin' tennis.

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- Yes.

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Like, we just can't wait to thank go tennis

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when we get this done.

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We can't wait.

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- Well, we're lookin' to try and figure out

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how to get involved as well.

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Right now, I'm in the back counting

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how many hats I have, okay.

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Can we get all the kids in hats?

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What does that look like?

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- Okay, okay, but,

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well, Capelli, who did the T-shirts for Atlanta open

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are wearing talks with them.

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And it seems like they wanna sponsor our T-shirts.

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- Nice.

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- I hope to confirm that today,

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but they have reached out to us and we have been talkin'.

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- Nice.

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- Because we're a really big presence.

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They expect us every year.

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When you got 40 to 60 people,

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and we're chatin', the whole stadium stops

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and lookin' right at us.

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They always put us on the train of tron, okay.

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And when they're practicing,

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people like Coppots, he stops and waves,

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and you know, Jermaine, we went to,

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four years ago, he was the head coach,

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and he called for Naomi Osaka.

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So we got to go to her practice

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and she seemed very nice to us.

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We have some really strong connections

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and some really good guys that came through our program.

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- Yeah, and you can't get away with it.

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You can't do this without those kinds of people,

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and without the people helping.

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It's just nice.

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And you said, "You banks came through your program."

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That's kind of the last thing I wanna touch on.

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What does that mean?

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- When he, okay, put it like this.

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When all the little African-American kids were coming up

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and when they were kids,

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like I say, Coach Wing specialized in kids,

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we're talkin' five, six, seven, eight, nine, okay.

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They all came to Washington Park in McGee-Tenacenter

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that was the only place they had, okay.

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Then as they got better,

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they would move out to Mr. Peterson,

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or Joel Peterson out there in a bird-head park

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in South Fulton, and so on and so forth.

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You just step up the ladder, but you started through there.

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So they all came through that program.

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So that's what we mean.

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- Gotcha, okay.

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Yeah, I think it's-- - Coach Wing has put his hands

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on all of them.

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- Yeah, it's good, 'cause he had a,

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I was lookin' into him recently.

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He had a profound impact on kids, Tennis and Atlanta.

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- Absolutely, absolutely.

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When I used to sponsor him and give him money,

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I could go to sleep at night,

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'cause I knew it was gonna be hand-to-write

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for the right thing.

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He tried to show me, he was saying, "Leave me alone, okay.

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"Let's get these kids there."

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We got a lot more to do to deal with that.

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It was great work on him,

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and it was just a shock when he passed at that early age.

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- Yeah, and that's a good thing to have that trust,

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and we don't have that a lot in the Atlanta area,

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especially between coaches,

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we're a hyper-competitive, hype of person.

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And so to see everybody working together,

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it's one of things, Tennis, GoTennis,

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and the podcast that we're doing,

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Bobby and I have that vision of everybody being

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on the same team, everybody working together.

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- Yeah, and that's where Eric Jackson comes into now, okay.

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Eric came through our program as a junior.

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Of course, he was, he was, boy, really, really great.

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He paid for the junior Davis Cup team

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when he played in Japan, representing America,

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that's the kind of skills he had,

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but he's been in Dallas for many, many years,

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but he's back now, and he says,

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"Hey, I'm willing to get back."

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And hopefully, I can do this maybe another year or two,

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and pass it on to a younger guy like that,

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you know, to take over.

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That would be great.

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- It's gotta take a lot of energy, I'm sure.

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- Yes.

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Bobby, you got anything?

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I know you kinda, we kinda threw you in here late,

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and I haven't really even had a chance, Jonathan,

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if you wouldn't have known, but normally Bobby and I

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talk about these things ahead of time,

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and since you and I only connected yesterday,

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I haven't had a really a chance to catch up Bobby,

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so in the last 20 minutes,

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I figured Bobby's brain's running a little bit.

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See what you're doing.

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Trying to get people up here, I think,

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first of all, Jonathan, I would love it deck,

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if you could send it to me,

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that I have a couple people I could ship it out to right away

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and try to help out on the funerary of the inside of it.

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- Okay, great.

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- And then were you involved a couple of years ago

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at Forest Hills with the kids with Luke,

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and running all over Forest Hills?

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I heard a funny story from,

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I think somebody we both know about the kids

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and have the right shoes,

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did you guys have to go out and get shoes for the kids?

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The big, the big, (laughs)

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- Actually, that didn't too much happen either,

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what they kind of had to give us a break,

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'cause we had no idea about the shoes,

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'cause how many of them ever played on grass.

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Me as a senior, we play our, I hated grass,

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'cause I'm always falling on the court,

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but we go up to Philadelphia and play up on the grass court

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up there is where we have our nationals, okay?

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And they don't let us wear grass court shoes up there,

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'cause they don't want their courts to aid up, okay?

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But, yes, of course, I was right there,

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we went to, fourth house of spectacular trip,

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and for me, especially because that's where Ash beat Conners,

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okay, right there in that stadium,

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and I didn't know that that clubhouse was that small,

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it looked so huge on TV.

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That was the small hall play, so I was like, wow,

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but it had a lot of history,

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and all our kids got to play on grass,

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and they'll never forget that, never forget that.

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So, yes, I do know a lot about that.

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- I heard all about it, as he was happening,

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so I was like, what happened?

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(laughs)

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- Yeah, we had no shoes for grass, but we had white,

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we all had, we knew we had to have white,

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'cause each day we wear a different color t-shirt,

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so we had our white t-shirts on,

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and we were all white for that particular day.

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So, we were at least on point with the colors,

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and the videos came out great,

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the pictures of that event are great, yeah.

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- Got you guys broken with Ray Benton up in DC,

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with his program,

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Chessie Cooper in Houston,

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'cause Chessie's got ties to Michael Young as well.

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- Right, no.

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We see them when we go up there,

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sometimes when I go up there to Coma Park,

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which is not the park where they work at,

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but that's where all the old guys play,

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I'll go up there and hit with them sometimes,

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and I'll run into those people, okay.

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Well, no, our world has been right here in Atlanta,

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of course, you know, the number one city in the nation, okay?

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And that's been more of our focus,

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so we have not been reaching out to Houston

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and to DC, right?

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- Where you coached out of now?

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- Excuse me?

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- Whatever you do coach out of now.

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- I coached out of McGee to the center and Sugar Creek.

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And Sugar Creek just happened in summer,

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'cause I don't know if you know it,

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Atlanta is going through a contractual thing right now.

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And so,

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right, so we kind of up in the air with McGee right now,

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so I went on out to Sugar Creek

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where we got a good base.

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And in fact, the guy who runs it went to Codaswick.

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So that was easy, easy to work with.

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- But you know, Bobby, it sounds like there's an opportunity

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at McGee, I don't know, I mean,

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you and I are kind of free for some facility management here.

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No.

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- Leasing in the city of Atlanta is a tough thing.

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That's a hard business.

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I don't envy that.

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I'm totally kidding about getting into that business.

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That is not--

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- I mean, UTA had called me and they would say,

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"Okay, we're thinking about making a bid if we do your our guy."

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'Cause I already had a program there.

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We know you know what to do for the area.

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And then they called me back and say,

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"Hey, where the city of Atlanta is offering,

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it's just not gonna fit.

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We're not gonna even bid."

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And so they fell out, you know?

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And--

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- I told you, I told you.

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- Have you spoken to--

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- I've just kind of think, yeah,

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I don't wanna recreate what you've already done.

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But if you spoke in the UTA,

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if you spoke in the Trevor Shore.

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- As well.

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- Well, I talked to UTA, okay, but UTA was planning

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on bidding for McGee and they decided to back out and not bid.

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- Yeah, so.

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- So after, and then I ran into them at Atlanta Open,

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we talked a little bit more, you know,

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we had hit a couple times.

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And yeah, so I think he's got a new replacement.

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Have replaced, so he was telling me about that

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'cause I might need to get mine done.

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- So, I'm thinking about stuff like that.

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Bobby, do you need forever?

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Will you lean forward, like, sit up straight?

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So yeah, you're just far enough away

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that your Mike's kicking out as you go.

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- Probably 'cause I have it in a stand

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that the Mike is a little blocked, but--

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- That's okay, yeah, just your first word cuts out

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and then we get the rest of it.

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So if you're a little closer, it'll help.

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- I can do it.

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- I can do it.

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- Yeah, I know you sound good.

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But yeah, Bobby, anything else?

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I love Bobby's always great, Jonathan,

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'cause he's gonna look up and he's gonna know

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about the fun stories and the events that have happened

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and he definitely knows the story.

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I'm sure he's probably not the type you want

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on the bus with you managing the kids.

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There's a firmer hand there that might not be necessary,

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but--

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- I don't care anything, too, so that's--

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- But he wouldn't know the air.

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- But don't give me wrong.

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Sometimes we have to be fun.

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I don't take any kids, you know, they can't be disciplined.

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That could be a problem.

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So we can't let our kids--

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- We can't let my kids--

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- It's got to be about 16, 17, maybe 18 hours.

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So it's not a short trip.

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So--

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- 15, 15, 16.

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- Yeah, and they're excited to get there.

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So, but yeah, they're gonna be, it's tough,

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'cause you're just a sheer adrenaline

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of what you get into, but yeah, the good news is

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the beginning of the trip is easy

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and it's the shortest distance is the worst.

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Once you get on the Jersey Turnpike gets brutal.

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- Deloid.

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- It is brutal.

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When we stop, when we stop in the morning and New Jersey,

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right, not far from the metal ends, we stop, okay?

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And we have breakfast and freshen up and put on our t-shirts,

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'cause we're headed to, are there as kids day, okay?

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Yeah, but we're super excited right then,

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'cause then I'm on the microphone,

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they see the metal ends and then shortly after,

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we'll go over to Washington, Burieds.

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And I try to keep them entertained,

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because we're just gonna, we only go on 10 feet stop,

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10 feet stop, this traffic is crazy.

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It is crazy.

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And then you have to be careful, the bus driver has to know

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where to go, 'cause you can't go under

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some of those little tunnels.

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- I've got to spread that.

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- Yeah, so--

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- The Georgia Washington Bridge has been under construction

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my entire life, so it's, (laughs)

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you can't go in through,

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kind of think they bring in through,

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you can actually go through that island,

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which might be a little easier and go to Arizona,

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but nonetheless, it's not easy.

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- Right, right.

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- Thank you, that I was born and I've grew up

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in the first few years in the Bronx,

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so I could tell good Bronx boys,

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back in the day when Mayor Koch used to put posters

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in the windows to make the building look better, so it was,

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(laughs)

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- Well, so far, out of the seven years we've been,

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every time we go, it's good weather,

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when we go across that bridge.

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So we have all these views,

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and it's just a really nice thing,

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and I can start narrating, looking at Manhattan

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and this Christler building, that building.

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And I just try to,

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keep the thing exciting and keep them motivated.

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And they are, they're super excited,

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and we'll get off that bus, this is our own empire.

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- Yeah, well, like I said, it's an amazing view,

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when you get close, it's really,

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it's even going back, it might just haven't grown up,

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but there's nothing like it in the world.

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I spent a little time in DC and went back to New York,

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and I'll never forget, on a Friday afternoon,

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got off the train during Rutte-R,

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and I was like, I just spent a month in DC,

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and DC looked like a small town compared to

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- Yeah, and also in the conversation, so yeah.

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- Let me tell you one of the most exciting things for me

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was just exciting me, is when I woke up the first morning

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that Sunday morning, and I opened my blinds,

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and I was on Roosevelt Island,

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and at the graduate hotel, and I said,

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"Oh, my God, you can reach out and touch."

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You were right there, with a ground zero was,

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in the World Trade Center, I mean, Manhattan,

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it was just like unbelievable, unbelievable.

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- It's so crazy, I took my daughter up a few years ago,

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and just as the growth of Jersey City is unbelievable,

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because everything in New York is so expensive,

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obviously broke from 10, 15 years ago,

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but I couldn't believe Jersey City, I was like,

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my God, that was the place, you could get some,

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if it's in Haikensack, you was cheaper, and yeah, that whole,

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it's just, it's grown even more, intimidating,

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and amazing all the same time.

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- Yeah, again, since you mentioned that,

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we need as many people to come on board this last week,

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because you better believe, those prices are crazy high,

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and they got higher since inflation stepped up.

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So, yeah, you're right about that.

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We're in New York, we're right in, right there, on the river,

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at Roosevelt Island.

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- And so, we're trying to figure out

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how to help you raise money for this,

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that's our goal right now.

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We've got it out a week, I think you said,

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you leave 25th-ish somewhere around there.

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- We leave the 24th.

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- I will put all the links, go fundee,

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we go fundee, excuse me, we will put that all out there,

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you sent me a bunch of information,

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we'll try to share that as well,

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so we'll tag each other and get everything out on social media,

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and anybody who's got $10, if you want to sponsor a kid,

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$500 is the magic number,

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and if you want to sponsor all of them,

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give Bobby a call, 'cause he's gonna be the one,

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wait, Bobby's over here, give Bobby a call, 'cause he,

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(laughs)

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he's handling the bigger numbers, but, yeah,

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- Please, was Bobby a call.

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- Exactly, we will follow up over this day.

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- I'm gonna be, exactly.

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Well, I appreciate it, Jonathan, thank you so much for your time,

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and Bobby is always, guys, we will be,

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- Oh, we gotta ask him, he's the King of Tennis,

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we gotta ask him.

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- That's where I'm headed, so.

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- Okay, make sure we didn't get away with Dr. Nganek.

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- No, no, no, no, since we're past,

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we're gonna put the goat fundee out there,

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now I'm gonna step out, back into our typical Atlanta tennis podcast,

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and say, I do wanna ask my favorite question to Jonathan Hart,

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and ask, if you were King of Tennis,

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we've heard a little bit about who you are,

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and what you do, and you like to play,

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and you like to help the kids of Atlanta,

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but is there something close to your heart,

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or something that you've seen in general,

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whether it's the whole world of tennis, or just Atlanta,

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or just sugar, creek, or McGee,

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is there anything in the world of tennis

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you would change if you were King of Tennis?

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- Is there anything I would change?

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Okay, 'cause tennis is a pretty good, complete game.

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I mean, I just like the way it is, the way it is, okay?

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And I would've said, let's get a tiebreaker

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at the end of the Grand Slam's,

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but they finally did that, because that was ridiculous, okay?

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But if it was something I was gonna change,

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I would change the way the college did,

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when the ball hits the net, still play the point.

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I would do that on the pro-lefton.

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- On the pro-lefton? - I kinda like that.

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- Yes.

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- Okay, well they, in deep one college, you played left.

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If it hits the net, it's lodged.

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- Well, I get that, but in my understanding

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of why they changed that rules,

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because college kids are a bunch of cheaters,

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'cause we've all played college tennis,

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and we all know we're a bunch of cheaters,

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and anytime he paced me, I just called a let.

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So, there's no, I don't see the reason to do it in professional

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for the same reason.

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So I'm curious if I can push back a little, Jonathan,

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and say, "It's obviously because not joke of it,

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"it isn't cheating."

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What's the purpose of that rule?

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- I like the way it keeps things flowing, okay?

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And it's the, you know, when it happens,

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it's like, "Oh, all of a sudden, you gotta react to it,

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"and then you gotta play your point differently."

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Okay, so I just like the way that happens.

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And I played it a couple of times, and I said,

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"Okay, all right, you know, it's in the equation.

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"It's another thing added to the equation."

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So that's why I like it.

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Yeah.

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- Oh, I get that's good.

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Definitely cheating.

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- Definitely cheating.

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- Different from the college players being about your cheaters.

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And I mean, you know what, you're saying cheating,

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but you know, even the pros get the calls wrong sometimes.

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So, it is what it is.

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It's part of the game.

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- But I really want it to be out.

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Isn't that enough if I just want the ball to be out?

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(laughing)

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- You guys just have fun doing this podcast, huh?

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Okay. - Why else?

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Why else do it, Jonathan?

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Why else do it?

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- That's right.

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- And we don't take ourselves too seriously.

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We just try to help Atlanta tennis

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and try to do for you as much as we can for the kids.

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- All right.

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- We'll get everything out there that we can.

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I'll follow up with you after this.

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We'll put this out audio only on all the podcast apps

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that goes out.

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I'll get that out in the next couple of days

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to make sure everybody that follows us there will see it.

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I'll clean it up a little bit,

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see if I can make Bobby sound good.

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We'll figure it's gonna happen out.

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- I'm gonna do something.

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- You have Jonathan contact information

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if this is something, you know,

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I've been through a loop of something I did a long time ago

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and yes, this is something that I have a great interest in.

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And so I'd like to be able to help out.

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And I know we're under the gun this year,

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but you know, get us run in for next year as well.

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- Sounds good.

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Sounds good.

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- Sounds good.

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- I'll call everybody after this

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and we'll make it all happen.

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Jonathan, heart.

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Thank you so much.

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We'll talk soon.

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Thank you, Sean.

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Thank you, Bobby.

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Take care.

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