Welcome to another edition of the Rappaport.
Andrew RappaportI am your host, Andrew Rappaport, the executive director of Striving for Eternity and the Christian podcast community of which this podcast is a proud member.
Andrew RappaportWe are here to give you biblical interpretations and applications for the Christian life today.
Andrew RappaportWhat we have for you is a message that I had preached at my church that I first pastored.
Andrew RappaportThat was on first Peter chapter four, 12, 19, dealing with persecution.
Andrew RappaportI think this is going to be a very timely message because, well, here in the States in one week we'll have an election which I think one way or another is going to lead to persecution.
Andrew RappaportAnd so it is good for Christians to have a plan to be prepared and to expect persecution.
Andrew RappaportIt's common in other parts of the world for Christians, but in America, not so much.
Andrew RappaportSo this is an important message to help all of us prepare ourselves for a coming persecution against Christianity.
Andrew RappaportSo may you listen to this message, may you share it with others, and may you be prepared to glorify God even in the midst of persecution.
Andrew RappaportThat's coming your way right now on the Rap Report.
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Speaker DWell, good morning.
Speaker DIt is a pleasure to be back with you guys.
Speaker DIt's been many years since I've been behind this pulpit.
Speaker DFor those who don't know are new.
Speaker DI used to pastor here.
Speaker DI was actually the first English pastor behind this pulpit in this building.
Speaker DSo it's been a little bit of time.
Speaker DLet us turn to 1 Peter 4.
Speaker DI'm going to read again.
Speaker DI'll ask if you turn to 1 Peter 4, you get to verse 12.
Speaker DIf you wouldn't mind rising out of reverence for the word of God.
Speaker DAs I'll read, I will be reading out of the Legacy Standard Bible.
Speaker DThat's a newer translation that's come out, but this is what Peter, by the inspirational Holy Spirit has written.
Speaker DBeloved, do not be surprised at the fiery trials among you which comes upon you for your testing, as though some strange thing were happening to you.
Speaker DBut to the degree that you are sharing in the suffering of Christ, keep on rejoicing so that also at the revelation of his glory, you may rejoice with exultation.
Speaker DIf you are insulted for the name of Christ, you are blessed, because the spirit of glory and of God rests upon you.
Speaker DMake sure that none of you suffers as a murderer or a thief, or an evildoer, or a troublesome meddler.
Speaker DBut if anyone suffers as a Christian, he is not to be put to shame, but is to glorify God in this name.
Speaker DFor it is time for judgment to begin with the house of God.
Speaker DAnd if it begins with us first, what will be the outcome of those who do not obey the gospel of God?
Speaker DAnd if it is with difficulty that the righteous is saved, what will be the outcome of the godless man and the sinner?
Speaker DTherefore, those also who suffer according to the will of God must entrust their souls to a faithful creator in doing good.
Speaker DLet us pray.
Speaker DLord, we come to you in worship, whether it be in our singing praises to you, in our giving to you, in the fellowship we share, or in the reading and proclamation of your word.
Speaker DMay all of it be an act of worship to you.
Speaker DMay each and every one of us leave this building different than we entered.
Speaker DMay we leave more in awe of how great you are, knowing you better, loving you more.
Speaker DWe ask that in this time as we open your word, that you in the person of Holy Spirit, would bring illumination of your word to our souls and the application thereof, so that we would leave this building knowing your word better, knowing you better.
Speaker DWe ask this in Christ's name.
Andrew RappaportAmen.
Speaker DYou may be seated.
Speaker DWe are jumping into the middle of one Peter so we need a little bit of context.
Speaker DMyself and my pastor are co teaching right now through one Peter and our church out in Pennsylvania.
Speaker BAnd the reason we started to do.
Speaker DThis is because we perceive a coming persecution in America.
Speaker DWe've been spared in America of persecution, but I think that day is over for Christians.
Speaker DAnd I believe that being, as many of you know, me being raised Jewish a generation after Holocaust, we were always in Hebrew school, were taught to look for another persecution that would come for the Jewish people.
Speaker DWe anticipated another Holocaust type of moment.
Speaker DAnd as I look in America, I see that we're at that moment.
Speaker DBut it's not going to be the Jewish people though I guess after the past year Jewish people are now kind of could be included.
Speaker DBut it seems that it's more going to be Christians that are going to be persecuted.
Speaker DWe see right now a political party that is starting to have their rhetoric to get into power by blaming Christians for all the ills of the country that they've this current administration that declares that if you believe in Christianity, if you follow Christian beliefs, you're a domestic terrorist.
Speaker DWell, when you run on language like that, what you get in power with, you stay in power with.
Speaker DAnd so when they run on rhetoric like that, it's only forthcoming that if they hold power that they will continue the rhetoric.
Speaker DWe saw that in Nazi Germany.
Speaker DAnd so I anticipate that for Christians we're starting to see some of the things, the freedoms we loved evaporating.
Speaker DPeople who are Christians are being arrested just for being outside.
Speaker DAnd I'm saying Christian now in a broad sense because I'm including Roman Catholics, but there's Roman Catholics just recently an 80 year old man who is just praying the rosary outside of an abortion clinic, not even talking to people, just praying, was arrested.
Speaker D80 year old man, 11 years in prison.
Speaker DThe reality is we see that the right now the FBI is targeting Christians, as you know, in a broad sense Christian, including Catholics.
Speaker DSo they're looking at that and saying that these are people to be targeted.
Speaker BSo that's where their focus is.
Speaker DTheir focus is not on, as we've now ended up seeing, that there's people that are child molesters and child rapists that have been able to continue in their crimes even though they should have been seen.
Speaker DBecause the focus, unfortunately the FBI right now is focusing on domestic terrorists, which include Christians, people who are against abortion, people who are for pro life.
Speaker DThis is what is the definition unfortunately now of a domestic terrorist.
Speaker DAnd so as we look at this, can we turn to scripture and see somewhere in scripture that would help us.
Speaker BIn times, in preparing for times of persecution?
Speaker DAmerican Christians haven't had to face this, but our brothers and sisters around the world, that's a regular thing.
Speaker DWe don't often think about that.
Speaker DI'll encourage for you to get Voice of the Martyrs, it's a free magazine.
Speaker DYou can get and see the persecution that our fellow brothers and sisters have been facing around the world.
Speaker DAnd that's just what they know.
Speaker DIf you live in Muslim countries, you don't have the freedom to worship like we do.
Speaker DIf you live in communist countries, you don't have the freedom is why there is an underground church.
Speaker DAnd yet the Christians I still remember back many years ago now, unfortunately.
Speaker DBut when I was pastoring here and I remember Voice of the Martyrs did an article on the Chinese church.
Speaker BThe Chinese church was under great persecution, but how is it thriving?
Speaker DThe number one thing that Voice of the Martyrs identified with the Chinese Christians, Chinese Christians being those in China who were worshiping illegally, was that they had an eternal perspective.
Speaker BThey had a perspective of God that was so grand that though everything in.
Speaker DTheir life could be removed and taken away.
Speaker DIt didn't bother them because it gave.
Speaker BThem a greater desire to be with Christ.
Speaker DWe see that throughout Paul's writings, where.
Speaker BPaul will talk about life and death, where death is better than life, because in death he gets to be with Christ.
Speaker DHe says it's far better in Philippians to be dead, but while he's alive, he can do ministry.
Speaker DWell, Peter gives us here in First Peter a pastor's heart to people who are persecuted.
Speaker DIf you go back to first Peter 1:1, you end up realizing he is writing to those who left his congregation in Jerusalem and that or in Judea.
Speaker BAnd they had fled.
Speaker BAnd where he was ministering, they had fled.
Speaker BHow far?
Speaker DWell, from Jerusalem we end up seeing in chapter one, verse one, he says, peter, an apostle of the Lord Jesus Christ to those who reside as exiled, scattered throughout Pontius Galatia, Cappadocia, Asia and Bithynia.
Speaker BWell, how far is that from Jerusalem?
Speaker BAnywhere from 600 to 1,000 miles.
Speaker DNow, think about this.
Speaker DThis is in a time where people only traveled about 15 miles.
Speaker DA day is a day's walk.
Speaker DThey didn't have cars, they didn't fly there.
Speaker B1000 miles is a lot.
Speaker BWhy did they flee?
Speaker BThey left everything they knew.
Speaker BThis is a time where most people only traveled no more than a mile from their village.
Speaker BSo most people didn't know what was.
Speaker DBeyond their own village.
Speaker BAnd they go 600 to 1,000 miles.
Speaker DAway because they were fleeing persecution that was occurring in the land of Israel.
Speaker BThat was so great that they left everything they knew to go to a new town and do what they did.
Speaker BYou enter in, you don't have the family business.
Speaker BYou don't have the friends and the support structure that they would have in a village.
Speaker BTypically, whatever job your father did, you would carry over.
Speaker BSo they had to leave family, leave.
Speaker DThe business, leave everything because of persecution.
Speaker BAnd Peter is concerned for them, and so he's writing to them and giving them instruction on how to handle persecution.
Speaker DIn chapter one, which is when I was talking to Pastor Ken, I originally was going to just preach at a Pastor 1, and I realized that there's too much here, and I would take way too much long because there's nothing here I would want to leave out.
Speaker DBut in chapter one, what Peter first does for these saints is to give them a very, very high view of who God is.
Speaker DWhen we go through trials and testings, we'll get into that in the passage.
Speaker BBut when we go through testings of our faith, what is going to make all the difference in how we go through that testing is going to be.
Speaker DWhat is your view of who God is?
Speaker BThe higher the view of God, the easier the testing will be.
Speaker BBecause what happens as we go through.
Speaker DA trial and we have a high.
Speaker BView of God, the more the trial.
Speaker DComes and the harder the trial is.
Speaker BThe more we look to Christ and we can't wait to be with him.
Speaker BAnd we have that feeling of what Paul talks about in Second Corinthians 5, where we look at this body as a temporal tent.
Speaker BWe can't wait to be done with it, so we could be with Christ.
Speaker BSo the high view of God is the first thing that we have to.
Speaker DUnderstand of how to deal with trials.
Speaker DHe then gets into talking about what.
Speaker BChrist did for us.
Speaker BWe as believers inherit eternity.
Speaker BWe who were enemies of Christ have been adopted into his family as co heirs with Jesus Christ.
Speaker BThat is unfathomable.
Speaker BWe become children of the King when we were his enemy, all because of what Christ did.
Speaker DThen he gets into chapter two, verse 13, all the way into chapter three, verse 12.
Speaker BThis idea that none of us enjoy.
Speaker BIt's the word.
Speaker DOh, it's that naughty S word, submission.
Speaker DWe hate that one.
Speaker BRight.
Speaker BHe talks about the fact that as believers going through persecution, we should submit.
Speaker DThat goes against everything of Americanism.
Speaker DRight.
Speaker BAmerica is this rugged individualism to submit to others.
Speaker DThat's not American, but that is Christian.
Speaker BHe starts with that we are to.
Speaker DSubmit to an authority.
Speaker DNow, keep in mind, what authority is.
Speaker BHe telling the Christians to submit to?
Speaker BAn authority that is persecuting Christians.
Speaker BHmm.
Speaker BEven those that are telling us that we have to do things that, you know, we don't want to do.
Speaker BWe talk in America about our rights.
Speaker DWe have certain rights in America.
Speaker BAnd we went through a time the past few years where we saw people that were Christians that were out fighting.
Speaker DFor our rights that aren't actually in the Constitution.
Speaker DRight.
Speaker DAnd so the law of our land is not the president and it's not actually Congress.
Speaker DThe law of this country is called the Constitution.
Speaker BSo we abide by the law.
Speaker DNow, there's times where this government has.
Speaker DOur government has gone against the Constitution.
Speaker DAnd we have a right to stand up for that because we're given that right in our Constitution.
Speaker BBut we are to be submissive.
Speaker DWe're to stand out as Christians in submitting.
Speaker BThen he starts to get into other.
Speaker DAreas we should submit.
Speaker DAnd he gives the examples, are just.
Speaker BExamples of the farthest way that you.
Speaker DThe least way you'd want to submit.
Speaker DSo he talks about a government And a government that is.
Speaker DThat's taking away freedoms.
Speaker BAnd then he talks about Christ being.
Speaker DThe example of the ultimate in submission.
Speaker DBut then he gets into wives submitting.
Speaker BTo their husbands, even unsaved husbands, even husbands who don't want them to be Christian, who probably, you know, verbally or.
Speaker DMentally abuse them because they're not Christian and the wife is a Christian.
Speaker DAnd it says to quietly submit because in that submission they stand out.
Speaker DHe talks about how slaves and basically employer employee relationships, we should be a submissive people.
Speaker BThat's not natural.
Speaker DI always think it's funny because when my bride and I are in American churches, they argue or they try to make the case that Yim is naturally submissive because she's Asian.
Speaker DAnd some of you here go, yeah.
Speaker BNo, they just assume the Asian culture is submissive.
Speaker DAnd that's why she's so submissive.
Speaker BShe goes, no, no, that's not it.
Speaker DYou see, it is a Christian principle that we all, not just wives, we all are to be submissive.
Speaker BAnd that is hard to do when.
Speaker DYou have a government and the people that are persecuting you.
Speaker DWhen the government is okays persecution against.
Speaker BThe people, you'll see that the people.
Speaker DAre willing to persecute as well.
Speaker DI forget the town, but there was a town in, I think it was Czechoslovakia at the time where when the.
Speaker BGermans came in and took over, neighbors.
Speaker DBoth Jewish and gentile got along just fine.
Speaker BBut when the Germans came in and said that it is okay to just steal from Jewish people or take whatever you want from your Jewish neighbors or beat them overnight, people that were friends saw the property of their Jewish neighbors and just said, I want it.
Speaker BAnd overnight were beating, killing and stealing.
Speaker DFrom people who just a day before got along with fine.
Speaker BThat is the situation here.
Speaker DYou have a government that says it's.
Speaker BOkay to persecute Christians, it's okay to beat them, it's okay to do whatever.
Speaker DYou want to them.
Speaker BThat is who Peter is writing to.
Speaker DPeople that are under that type of mindset.
Speaker DAnd so he starts with chapter four, talking about love.
Speaker DThat we as Christians have to be marked by love.
Speaker BWe have to.
Speaker BThe way we behave.
Speaker BIt's everything that we do in our behavior.
Speaker BThe world is watching.
Speaker BAnd so what makes us stand out will be our character.
Speaker DVoice of the MARTYRS I remember reading many years ago about a man that was preaching the gospel in South Korea.
Speaker DAnd he shared his story about how he got saved.
Speaker BHe talked about a guy from North Korea who had escaped into South Korea.
Speaker BAnd when he got to South Korea.
Speaker DHe became a Christian, and he realized.
Speaker BThat in North Korea there was no one there to share the gospel.
Speaker BSo this man who managed to escape North Korea went back to North Korea.
Speaker DSo that he could share the gospel.
Speaker BHe was captured, arrested, and beaten daily.
Speaker BAnd as this guard would beat him, this man would pray to God for the guard's soul.
Speaker DWell, the man whose story Voice of the Martyrs was telling this guy who escaped from North Korea into South Korea was the guard.
Speaker BAfter this man was beaten to death, the guard had such conviction that he.
Speaker DGave his life to Christ and ended up being able to flee and go to South Korea.
Speaker BWhat is it that a person could be beaten by a guard?
Speaker BAnd his concern is to share the Gospel and pray for the soul of the man beating him.
Speaker DThat is who Peter is writing to.
Speaker DSo we get to our text in.
Speaker BVerse 12, and what we see in this text is Peter is laying out.
Speaker DFor us two types of righteous suffering and unrighteous suffering.
Speaker BWe always want to think that when we suffer, we suffer for Christ's sake.
Speaker DBut not all suffering is Christian suffering.
Speaker DI used to work with a guy back in the late 80s, and he got fired at the job.
Speaker DWe used to work together, and he got fired.
Speaker DAnd he came to church and he.
Speaker BAsked for prayer because he was being persecuted for his faith.
Speaker BHe got fired for his faith.
Speaker DAnd after prayer meeting, I had to walk over to him and say, joe, you did not get fired for your faith.
Speaker BYou got fired because you were sharing.
Speaker DYour faith when you should have been working.
Speaker BSee, six hours a day, he walked.
Speaker DAround and shared the gospel with people.
Speaker BHe wasn't getting paid to share the gospel.
Speaker BHe was getting paid to do a.
Speaker DJob he wasn't doing.
Speaker DThat's why he got fired.
Speaker BBut he viewed it as, I was fired from my faith.
Speaker BPeter's going to address that kind of thinking, whether all of our suffering is.
Speaker DReally Christian suffering, righteous suffering or not.
Speaker BHe says, beloved, do not be surprised at the fiery trial among you.
Speaker BVery interesting.
Speaker BHe's telling his audience and carries down to us today.
Speaker BWe should not be surprised when trials come.
Speaker BWe should expect them.
Speaker BWhat kind of trials?
Speaker DFiery ones.
Speaker BWhat's a fiery trial?
Speaker BWell, in that day and at that time of Nero, a fiery trial is.
Speaker DWhen they lit you on fire.
Speaker BThat's what Nero did.
Speaker BNero was a pyromaniac.
Speaker BNero liked fires.
Speaker BIn fact, he'd lit the entire.
Speaker BHe wanted to rebuild Rome.
Speaker BSo it's assumed historically that Nero set Rome on fire so he could rebuild it.
Speaker BAnd that didn't quite go over well.
Speaker DWith the People who lived in Rome when their houses and everything burned.
Speaker BSo what did he do?
Speaker BHe blamed the Christians for the fire because Christians at the time were talking.
Speaker DAbout a fiery judgment that was going to be coming.
Speaker BAnd he said, see those Christians, they tried to set Rome on fire because they keep talking about a fiery judgment.
Speaker BAnd so he blamed them.
Speaker BWhat happened?
Speaker BHe allowed for persecution.
Speaker BHe actually would take Christians and light them on fire to be the light.
Speaker DFor his parties at night.
Speaker DThis is not a nice man.
Speaker BSo when he talks about a fiery trial, this is what they're thinking of, a fiery trial.
Speaker BThey understand Nero, that's not what we think of when we read a fiery trial.
Speaker BWe don't think about a government that comes in and is going to light us on fire.
Speaker BThat was the case many years ago.
Speaker BEven in England.
Speaker BRight.
Speaker DWhen the battle in England between the, the Catholics and the Reformers, whoever was king or queen, they would just burn people.
Speaker BSo what we call persecution in America, that's what the Bible would call light affliction.
Speaker BRight.
Speaker DHe's going to get into some of.
Speaker BThat, you know, we call persecutionists.
Speaker BSomeone didn't, you know, treat me nicely because I'm a Christian, or they didn't.
Speaker DGive me a promotion at work because I'm a Christian, or maybe I got fired because they don't like Christian values.
Speaker DWe'll get to that.
Speaker BBut that's not what Peter's talking about here.
Speaker BHe's talking about the fact that we as Christians should expect that a government would come and burn us alive.
Speaker BDon't be surprised at that.
Speaker BWe should expect the world to hate the things of Christ.
Speaker BWe should expect the world to want to silence the things of Christ.
Speaker BWhy?
Speaker BWell, Romans, chapter one.
Speaker BThey know God exists.
Speaker BThere's not a single human being alive.
Speaker DThat does not know God exists.
Speaker BSo when atheists tell you they don't believe in God, God who knows everything and cannot lie, says different.
Speaker BHe says they know God exists.
Speaker BThey suppress that in unrighteousness.
Speaker BHow do you suppress things?
Speaker DSilence them.
Speaker DThat's why the world hates the gospel.
Speaker BWhen I get up in New York City and do open air evangelism and I stand up and proclaim the truth of God's word, people walk by and tell me to shut up.
Speaker BYou know, if I was playing jazz music and they didn't like jazz music, they wouldn't say to shut up.
Speaker DThey wouldn't say to stop.
Speaker BThey would do what?
Speaker DKeep on walking.
Speaker BWhy is it they tell me to shut up?
Speaker BBecause the word of God is convicting to the unbeliever and they want it silenced.
Speaker DPeter recognizes that.
Speaker BSo he says, we should expect this.
Speaker BBut when this suffering comes, he wants to address how we behave.
Speaker BHe says, do not be surprised at.
Speaker DThe fiery trial among you which comes upon you for your testing, as though.
Speaker BIt'S some strange thing were happening to you.
Speaker BIt's not strange that our faith gets tested.
Speaker DNow, when we talk about a testing.
Speaker BThe word testing is really a general.
Speaker DTerm for two more specific things.
Speaker BPeter here talks about trials.
Speaker DThe other thing is a temptation.
Speaker DBoth trials and temptations are subsets of a testing.
Speaker BSo we talk about testings.
Speaker BTrials are things that happen from without to us, from outside.
Speaker BYou lose your job that was not from within.
Speaker DThat's an external thing to you, that occurred to you.
Speaker BA temptation is from within.
Speaker BTemptation is something where you are tempted to do something.
Speaker DI was tempted very much this past week as I was out in Ohio and we went to a buffet with my greatest weakness, food.
Speaker DAnd I gave in far too much.
Speaker DI even topped it off with ice cream.
Speaker BBut the reality is that temptations are from within.
Speaker BSo what he is talking about is not temptations.
Speaker DWhen he refers to testings, he's talking.
Speaker BAbout those that are external to us, that occur to us.
Speaker BHe says we should expect these things.
Speaker BWe shouldn't think it's strange.
Speaker BNow we have an American Christianity that's.
Speaker DBeing preached by many on tv.
Speaker DAnd we're not, you know, Joel Osteen's.
Speaker BAnd many others who preach a health, wealth, prosperity, gospel.
Speaker BEverything should go your way.
Speaker BIf you're a Christian, you should have everything that's good.
Speaker BGod wants you to have the best.
Speaker BJoel Osteen writes a book, you, Best Life.
Speaker BNow, if this is our best life, you know what that means.
Speaker BWe only have hell to look forward to for the Christian.
Speaker BThis is the worst that life gets.
Speaker BWe have heaven to look forward to.
Speaker BThis is not the best life now for a Christian.
Speaker BThe best life for the Christian is yet to come.
Speaker BAnd so as Peter is writing here, he's saying we should expect trials.
Speaker BIf you have someone that's preaching that everything is going to go smooth for you, you're getting someone that's not preaching the Bible.
Speaker BThe Bible says, expect fiery trials.
Speaker BExpect them to be willing to kill you.
Speaker BBut he says in verse 13, but to the degree that you're sharing in the suffering of Christ, now here we.
Speaker DSee a distinction he's going to make.
Speaker BThere is a suffering where we suffer with Christ.
Speaker BIn other words, we are suffering because of the fact that we are proclaiming the truth of God's word, not because of our behavior, but because they hate Christ.
Speaker BSo they want to silence you.
Speaker BHe says, inasmuch as you're sharing in the suffering of Christ.
Speaker BWell, what is the suffering of Christ?
Speaker DWell, he mentioned it earlier in this.
Speaker BEpistle that the suffering of Christ is that God Almighty decided to take on human flesh, go to a cross, die a death that was horrible as a payment of sin for those who hate.
Speaker DChrist, so he can offer forgiveness.
Speaker BSee, what makes that different is that Jesus Christ, being God, he can pay an eternal fine because he is an eternal being.
Speaker BSee, a temporal being can only pay a temporal fine.
Speaker BIf someone never broke God's law.
Speaker BThey can only pay a fine for one person because it would take them all eternity to do it.
Speaker BBecause when we sin against an infinitely.
Speaker DHoly God, it has an infinite holy.
Speaker BConsequence, so it would take off all of eternity to pay it.
Speaker BBut an eternal being who is both eternal and a man, as a man, he never broke God's law.
Speaker BSo he could be a substitute being eternal God, he could pay an eternal fine.
Speaker BTherefore, Jesus Christ, being truly God, truly man, can be a proper sacrifice.
Speaker BThat is the ultimate example of suffering.
Speaker BDid Jesus do anything wrong?
Speaker BNo.
Speaker BHe never deserved the death because he never broke the law.
Speaker BBut he took that on submissively so that we could be free.
Speaker BBecause apart from the work of Jesus Christ on the cross, there is no way you and I could ever earn salvation.
Speaker DWe can never earn being right with God.
Speaker BWe all rightly deserve eternity in a lake of fire because we broke God's.
Speaker DLaw and he's infinitely holy.
Speaker BAnd because of that, it is only what he did on the cross that.
Speaker DWe can have eternal life.
Speaker BSo that is when he talks about the suffering of Christ, it is not a suffering because we want to argue for our rights.
Speaker BIt's a suffering because the world wants to silence their conscience, because their conscience is screaming out that they are guilty against a holy God.
Speaker BThey want to silence that.
Speaker BHow do they do it?
Speaker DBy killing the Christians.
Speaker BAnd they feel, oh, look, there's many of us in agreement.
Speaker BTherefore, we feel we're right, we're justified in doing this.
Speaker BAnd Christians in this day and age went into coliseums being fed to lions for entertainment.
Speaker BAnd the reports of the time show that the Christians did not run from the lions.
Speaker BThe Christians did not try to try to avoid being eaten.
Speaker BBut they would go to the center of the Coliseum, they would kneel down and pr Pray.
Speaker BSome would even sing as the record.
Speaker DWith Polycarp, a disciple of John the apostle, would Sing as he's being killed, eaten by lions.
Speaker DThat is the suffering for Christ.
Speaker BBut he says here that if we're sharing in the suffering of Christ, then keep on rejoicing.
Speaker BKeep rejoicing in that suffering.
Speaker BWhen you know you are suffering because of Christ's sake, we can rejoice in that.
Speaker BDo you know the difference, by the.
Speaker DWay, of joy and happiness?
Speaker DIn America, we talk about happiness, the pursuit of happiness.
Speaker BHappiness is in circumstances.
Speaker DEasy way to remember this.
Speaker BHappiness is based on what happens circumstances.
Speaker BWe are happy when circumstances go our way.
Speaker BJoy is in an object that is beyond what happens.
Speaker BJoy is sought when we have an object that we look toward that is greater than our circumstances.
Speaker BThat is how we can have joy, even in suffering.
Speaker BThat is why he commands here that we are to rejoice.
Speaker BThis is an imperative in the Greek.
Speaker BWe are to rejoice.
Speaker BWait, you're saying we should rejoice when someone is burning us alive?
Speaker BYes, we're to rejoice.
Speaker DThere's two men that were in, out in Oxford, and I was actually there proclaiming the gospel at the very spot where, back at the time, Queen Mary was killing the Christians.
Speaker DAnd so what ended up happening was there were three men that, before she.
Speaker BHad come in, they were very instrumental in bringing about the Reformation to England.
Speaker DAnd there was one guy, he was the lead bishop that led everything, and they had arrested him and they really.
Speaker BWanted him to confess.
Speaker DAnd they were trying to get these guys to confess.
Speaker DAnd there were two of the guys, Ridley and Mortimer, who refused.
Speaker BAnd what they did to the bishop to really try to get him to confess was that they had him in imprisoned.
Speaker BAnd right outside the window, the guards made him watch as the Queen demanded for Ridley and Wittemer to be burned right outside his window.
Speaker DAnd as the younger man was getting nervous with this, as they're lighting the.
Speaker BFire, the famous quote, play the man.
Speaker DMortimer, play the man.
Speaker BIn other words, we are Christians, we're going to go to heaven.
Speaker BThis is something that men will do.
Speaker BHe was telling them to expect it.
Speaker BAnd as they sat outside that room watching his friends burn, he was at first encouraged to see that they were singing.
Speaker BBut he got overwhelmed with the fact that they were threatening him with the same.
Speaker BAnd he ended up confessing and saying.
Speaker DThat what he was doing was wrong.
Speaker DThey brought him as would be done.
Speaker BThey bring him to the church.
Speaker BAnd I stood at that church, at that pulpit where he was supposed to read his confessional statement with the Queen of England sitting right there in the front row.
Speaker BHe was to Read this confession of denying Christ what he did, denying justification by faith alone.
Speaker BAnd as he stood there, he ended up realizing what he was doing and.
Speaker DWhat he had signed.
Speaker BAnd before the Queen, he said, I confess that this right hand of mine should be burned first.
Speaker BFor how dare it sign a confession to deny my Lord and Savior?
Speaker BAnd they dragged him from that pulpit.
Speaker BAnd I walked the mile they took him to, to the same spot where his friends burned.
Speaker BAnd they burned him on that spot.
Speaker BAnd he requested not to be tied so that he could take the right hand that signed that confession and shove it into the fire so it would be the first thing to burn as.
Speaker DHe sang a song in the fire of his own death, singing praises to God as he burned alive.
Speaker DThat is what Peter is talking about, that kind of behavior that we would.
Speaker BSuffer for Christ's sake.
Speaker DBut there's a second suffering.
Speaker DHe says.
Speaker BHe says here, if you are insulted for the name of Christ, you're blessed.
Speaker DWe don't usually think of being insulted as a blessing, but if it's for.
Speaker BChrist's sake, we're blessed because the spirit.
Speaker DOf glory rests upon you.
Speaker BSo we know when we're suffering for Christ's sake.
Speaker BWe're doing it because the spirit is with us.
Speaker DWe're honoring Christ in that suffering.
Speaker DHowever, he says in verse 15, make.
Speaker BSure none of you suffers at a murderer.
Speaker BNow, he is not using for those who.
Speaker DWhen I used to pastor here and.
Speaker BWe trained people to evangelize, we talk.
Speaker DAbout, you know, using the ten Commandments in evangelism.
Speaker DAnd when people say about murder, we would go to Matthew 5 and show.
Speaker BHow Christ says that even if you're angry with someone, that's murderer of the heart.
Speaker BRight?
Speaker BWell, he's not.
Speaker BHe's speaking of murderers here, and we can feel safe.
Speaker BWell, hey, I'm not a murderer, so.
Speaker DI'm good on that case.
Speaker DThat wouldn't be me.
Speaker BI wouldn't be suffering for being a murderer.
Speaker DWell, how about a thief?
Speaker BOkay, well, maybe we stole something when.
Speaker DWe were younger, but none of us are really kleptomaniacs today.
Speaker DAs Christians, we're not known as being thieves, so we feel pretty good on that one, too.
Speaker BOr an evildoer.
Speaker DWell, most of us don't think of ourselves and characterize ourselves as evildoers.
Speaker DBut then he's got to throw this last one in.
Speaker BOr a troublesome meddler, a gossip.
Speaker BOuch.
Speaker BIt's basically like, okay.
Speaker BHe goes from one extreme and just says, okay, now I'm gonna do a catch.
Speaker BAll in Other words, if you are suffering because you're gossiping about people, that's not suffering for Christ.
Speaker BIf you're suffering because you're a murderer or a thief or someone who's doing evil.
Speaker BIn other words, what he's saying is you should expect that suffering.
Speaker BIf you murdered someone and you got caught and now you're being thrown in jail, that's not suffering for Christ's sake.
Speaker BThat's suffering because you deserve it.
Speaker BBut he goes and has to throw this last one in, you know, being a gossip.
Speaker BGossiping is when you have idle talk to diminish someone's character.
Speaker BJust an idle talk.
Speaker BIt could even be true, but not necessary.
Speaker BAnd he says idle talk for the purpose of diminishing someone's reputation.
Speaker BIf you suffer for that, well, there's plenty of times people suffer for that.
Speaker BThey say something, you know, unfortunately, at most churches, their prayer meetings are nothing.
Speaker DBut, you know, gossip.
Speaker BYou know, pray for so and so they were, you know, you know, out somewhere doing something they shouldn't have been doing.
Speaker DDid everyone really need to know that?
Speaker DNo, but some.
Speaker BBut people like to do idle talk.
Speaker DBecause it makes them feel better by putting others down.
Speaker BWell, when he talks about that as an unrighteous suffering.
Speaker DSee, there's suffering we do because of.
Speaker BThe fact that we deserve it.
Speaker BAs I go on the streets and.
Speaker DDo open air evangelism, there's many, I would say most even that I don't think do it.
Speaker BWell, most out there that are proclaiming Christ out of their own self righteousness, they like to condemn the sins of those that are listening to them.
Speaker BThey act as if they're the Holy Spirit.
Speaker BAnd it's their job to convict them, to convert them, right?
Speaker BSo what do they do?
Speaker BThey sit there and I gotta convict you and tell you how wicked you are.
Speaker BAnd yet they get treated by the.
Speaker DPeople in the crowd.
Speaker BBecause most of those people are very.
Speaker DArrogant in the way they're talking and conducting themselves.
Speaker BThey're not an ambassador for Christ.
Speaker BAnd as they're sitting there and judging people, the people don't like it and start yelling back.
Speaker BIt's the reason that, you know, we.
Speaker DHave to remember when we go out.
Speaker BAnd do things that we are an ambassador for Jesus Christ.
Speaker DThis is Second Corinthians, chapter five.
Speaker BWe're ambassadors for Christ.
Speaker BEverything we do represents our King.
Speaker BAnd if we act like jerks, people think our God is a jerk.
Speaker BThe reason so many people think that God is judgmental in the way that they define being judgmental is the fact that they See many Christians acting that way.
Speaker DNow.
Speaker DWe are to judge, that's clear in Scripture.
Speaker DThe issue is always the standard of judgment.
Speaker DJohn 7:24.
Speaker DJesus Christ Himself actually commands in the Greek.
Speaker DIt's an imperative.
Speaker BYou are to judge with a righteous judgment.
Speaker DThe issue he's going to bring up.
Speaker BHere is that we are to judge.
Speaker BWe are to start though within the household of God.
Speaker DAnd that's why he talks about the fact that we must recognize what is righteous suffering from deserved suffering.
Speaker DHe says in verse 16, but if anyone suffers as a Christian, he is not to be put to shame, but is to glorify God in his name.
Speaker BYou know, even Paul in his day.
Speaker DWe see this in Philippians, that when.
Speaker BHe was in jail and he was imprisoned, there were those who took opportunity to take Paul's imprisonment and say, see, God's done with him.
Speaker BYou shouldn't listen to what Paul says.
Speaker BAnd Paul says that their falsehoods that they said they do out of selfishness, that's not a righteous suffering they would suffer.
Speaker BHe says they do it out of self righteousness, out of pride.
Speaker BBut what was Paul's attitude?
Speaker BHe rejoiced because even though they did it out of sinful motives, the gospel was being preached and he could rejoice.
Speaker BHe says, yes, I will rejoice.
Speaker BAnd that is what Peter is getting to here, is that we shouldn't be suffering if we're, if we are sorry.
Speaker BWe shouldn't be shamed if we're suffering for righteousness sake.
Speaker BWhat was it that those people were doing to Paul?
Speaker BThey were trying to shame people for listening to Paul and follow what Paul was saying because he's imprisoned and that was a shameful thing.
Speaker BSo they're trying to bring shame on.
Speaker DThese people that were following Christ.
Speaker BSo Peter says, don't do that.
Speaker BDon't shame those who are actually suffering for Christ's sake.
Speaker DAt the end here of this chapter.
Speaker DAnd I say chapter knowing that obviously Peter did not include chapters.
Speaker DIf you don't know that chapter breaks and verses didn't appear in the Bible until about the seven hundreds.
Speaker DOkay, so Peter just wrote this.
Speaker DHe didn't say turn to chapter four.
Speaker BBut he says, for it is time for judgment.
Speaker BAnd where is it to begin?
Speaker BIn the house of God.
Speaker BHe realized that under persecution we must judge our own.
Speaker BWe must be willing to recognize those who are doing things within the church.
Speaker DThat are not righteous suffering.
Speaker DWe must be able to identify the difference between a righteous suffering and an unrighteous suffering.
Speaker DHe says it begins with the house of God.
Speaker BAnd if it begins with us, if God is going to start with the judgment of the church, he then says, what is it going to be like for the world if God is concerned that we be pure and we know him, what will it be like for.
Speaker DThe world that are still his enemies?
Speaker BNow, that right there should give every one of us that proclaim the name of Christ a great concern for the lost.
Speaker BHe's basically telling these believers who are being persecuted that we can't sit back and go, woe is me.
Speaker BWhy is this happening to me?
Speaker BBut we are to be a people that are concerned even in persecution, even in suffering for righteousness sake, that we're concerned for those who are persecuting us.
Speaker BBecause if God is going to judge us, how much more will he judge the unbeliever?
Speaker BWe must be concerned for their soul.
Speaker BWe must be concerned with where they will spend eternity.
Speaker BSo much so that even under persecution, we will proclaim the gospel to those who are torturing and wanting to kill us.
Speaker DIs that where I'm at in my Christian walk?
Speaker BIs that where you're at in your Christian walk?
Speaker DNot going to ask where you're at in voicing it, but I don't know if I'm at that point yet.
Speaker DI'll probably never know until they start lighting a fire at my feet.
Speaker BI would like to think that I'd proclaim Christ just as boldly as I do in the streets of New York City or everywhere else where I go.
Speaker BI'd like to think that I'd stand up and proclaim the truth of the gospel.
Speaker DBut we really don't know until that happens.
Speaker DNot saying I'm looking forward to that happening, but I'm anticipating the day that it will be.
Speaker DHe's telling them we must be concerned.
Speaker BWe must recognize that those who are outside of Christ.
Speaker DAre going to have a greater suffering if they don't turn to Christ.
Speaker BNow, one thing that also says is that those who are persecuting us and we feel like, where is God as we're being persecuted?
Speaker BWell, Peter's also saying that God doesn't judge in our time frame.
Speaker DHe judges in his own time frame.
Speaker BAnd so what he's essentially saying is that God judges on his timetable.
Speaker BWe would like God to judge today.
Speaker DAll the evils that we see in the world.
Speaker BBut if God was to judge evil.
Speaker DImmediately, would you have lived long enough to come to repentance and believe the gospel?
Speaker BNope.
Speaker BThere'd be no one that's alive past.
Speaker D2 years old, 1 years old, right.
Speaker BThe fact that there are people that do evil in the world.
Speaker BInstead of looking at that and saying, why God?
Speaker BWe should look at that and say.
Speaker DHow long suffering God is, how merciful.
Speaker BGod is that he gives these people more time on earth to repent.
Speaker DBut then it also means that he has called us to be that mouthpiece for their repentance, to proclaim the truth of God's word.
Speaker BSo he says there.
Speaker DTherefore.
Speaker BThose also who suffer according to.
Speaker DThe will of God must entrust their souls to a faithful creator in doing good.
Speaker DEven when we are being persecuted, when.
Speaker BWe are suffering for righteousness sake, we.
Speaker DAre to do good.
Speaker DWhy?
Speaker DBecause we have a faithful creator.
Speaker BWe can't stand evil in the world in a single day.
Speaker BHow often do some of us complain about the evils we see?
Speaker BWe see things being done.
Speaker BThe human trafficking, abortion, name the evil name what we think is vile.
Speaker BWe see it in our day and wish it would stop.
Speaker BGod has let it go and has.
Speaker DBeen enduring it for centuries.
Speaker DAnd he understands the wickedness of that evil to the fullest extent.
Speaker DHow much more when he is so faithful?
Speaker DHow much more can we endure and do good even in the light of persecution?
Speaker DWhere are we at on that walk?
Speaker DCan we feel confident that we would.
Speaker BSing hymns and praise God and pray.
Speaker DFor those who persecute us when that comes?
Speaker DEven at the point of death?
Speaker DThe early church argued, and many refer to the fact that it is the blood of the martyrs that was the seed of the church.
Speaker BIn other words, that when the martyrs were being killed the way they were being killed, because they glorified God in their death, that is what got people that said, what is with these people?
Speaker BEven Pilate would ask that of Christ.
Speaker BDon't you know I have the right to.
Speaker BTo give you freedom or death?
Speaker BWhy are you silent?
Speaker BPeople are not silent when they're sentenced to death.
Speaker BThey argue for their own defense, they defend themselves for their freedom.
Speaker BBut Christ stood out when he was a lamb going to slaughter.
Speaker BSilent the martyrs that would sit there and be silent or even more, pray for those that were persecuting them, praise God in their persecution.
Speaker BSo much so that in the early church, this is not biblical, but in the early church, when we talk of spiritual gifts, the early church actually referred to a spiritual gift of martyrdom.
Speaker BThey believed that certain Christians just had a gift that they would be able to be martyred and praise God in light of it.
Speaker DObviously we don't believe in a gift of martyrdom here in America, but that was the case for many in that first century.
Speaker DWhere are we on that walk?
Speaker DWe think of the small little suffering and think it's the world coming to an end.
Speaker DAnd yet Peter is writing to those who are suffering far worse than we in a persecution that we have not experienced here in America, but I think may be coming very shortly.
Speaker DI truly believe we are maybe five to 10 years away.
Speaker DTo Christians being imprisoned because they're Christians, that's not a foreign thing around the world.
Speaker DIt has been in America.
Speaker DHow will we stand when that happens?
Speaker BWill we stand and proclaim Christ?
Speaker BWell, I have news for all of us.
Speaker BIf we will not stand and proclaim Christ to our co workers, to our family, to strangers that we come upon, if we won't proclaim Christ when we don't have persecution, then we're not training.
Speaker DOurselves to proclaim Christ when there is persecution.
Speaker BWhile we have time, we should be taking the words of Peter, training ourselves to focus upon who God is and how great he is, what he did for us, training ourselves to submit to one another and preparing for a persecution that is coming such that when it occurs, we will proclaim Christ because that is who we are and that is.
Speaker DWhat we do even before that persecution comes.
Speaker DPray.
Speaker DHeavenly Father, we come before you and ask that if it be your will, you would prevent this persecution that I think is coming from occurring.
Speaker DBut Lord, if that not be your will, then I ask that you would.
Speaker BUse your word of what first, Peter.
Speaker DPeter has written in this first epistle.
Speaker BTo encourage our hearts, to prepare our hearts so that we as your children, would stand firm, stand bold, so that even our persecutors, like that North Korean guard, would recognize there's something different with us, that we would be your ambassador, would stand out as different from the world, and that people would come to repentance, that your name would be honored and glorified, and people would be in awe of how great you are.
Speaker DAnd enable us, Lord, that we would strive to make every day an eternal day for your glory.
Speaker DAmen.