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The comfort of your couch or on the go, prepare for lively discussions, hilarious anecdotes, and a splash of heartfelt wisdom.

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Shots up.

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Get ready.

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Cheers.

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Yes, sir.

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Hey, we back.

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Y' all know how we start this thing?

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We always start this thing off with a hit.

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So let's go ahead and get into it.

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Check it out now no doubt now,

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yeah, Check it out now

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no doubt, yeah.

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Special girl.

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Real good girl.

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Biggest thing in my itty bitty world

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Call her up and she made me

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feel right Wish the bliss could never take flight Sitting back with this mic

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in my hand Spitting hot shit trying to see grand.

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Welcome back, welcome back.

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Welcome back.

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You are.

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Now listen to the voices of JR and Dominique and Tim.

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And this is dad's friends in Tequila, where dads come to hang out, friends gather and a tequila flows and then gots to flow.

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I'm a daddy.

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Is you a daddy?

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Hey, bro, I'm a full fledged dad in this thing, man.

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I don't know about you.

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I don't know how you've been getting down.

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Full fledged telling you a daddy.

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I'm a daddy.

Speaker B

Hey, what they what dream?

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Always say they call me daddy.

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Hey.

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The reason why we started the show is because we want to share our experiences.

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Fatherhoods, becoming men.

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And share our palace for the taste of tequila.

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Yes, sir.

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And the purpose of the show.

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The purpose of the show?

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Swim.

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To create a environment where men can feel like men.

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We could talk.

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We could listen.

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You know, somebody's listening to you.

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You don't feel like you're alone.

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But the most important thing.

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The most important thing.

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He took a shot with us.

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I want you to see that, too.

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He took a shower.

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But the most important thing is I want y' all to see that we.

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We're going to break down the difference between the father yes and a daddy yes.

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Are you just a man that shoots the club up?

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Are you the man that takes care of your responsibilities after you shoot the club?

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Hey, I like to shoot it because I'm gonna shoot.

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I'm gonna shoot it up and take care of me.

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Yeah, I never had a pullback in my.

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And left it in there.

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They call him Yogi King.

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My boy.

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Hey, look, we gotta return.

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He ain't even the guest no more.

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He like one of the founders, too.

Speaker B

What's his name?

Speaker A

Yeah, that's me.

Speaker B

Yes, sir.

Speaker C

Yes, sir.

Speaker B

Tim, do you even have your mic on?

Speaker C

Always on.

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I know, I know.

Speaker A

Yeah, that's it right there.

Speaker A

There we go.

Speaker C

I got you.

Speaker B

There you go.

Speaker C

Same man.

Speaker C

So what we Supposed to drink already.

Speaker B

Hey, my bad.

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Let's talk.

Speaker B

Let's take a shot.

Speaker B

Hold on, let me get this over.

Speaker A

I didn't know this man told us what.

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What the.

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What the whole purpose of the show was.

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Took a shot.

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Okay.

Speaker A

Crazy.

Speaker C

Oh, my God.

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Keep going.

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Yeah, keep going.

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Yes, sir.

Speaker A

Hey, it's smooth.

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It's smooth.

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Strong.

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Strong boy.

Speaker C

Well, let's do it.

Speaker B

Don't be rushing to take shots because last time you were pouring.

Speaker B

You was pouring gups on this thing.

Speaker A

Wait a minute, wait a minute.

Speaker B

Yeah, yeah.

Speaker B

Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.

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Let's see.

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Right there.

Speaker B

Yeah, that was good.

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Hey, man, what's up?

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What's been up with y', all, man?

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It's been a minute.

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So we all linked up.

Speaker C

It's been a minute.

Speaker B

Yeah, it's been a minute.

Speaker B

I gotta sit back.

Speaker B

I forgot we record.

Speaker A

They can't even see.

Speaker B

Tim, How you do it too?

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The camera over there.

Speaker C

Oh, yeah, that's right there.

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Right there,

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man.

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Hold on.

Speaker A

Last time.

Speaker C

It was last year, right?

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25.

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Yeah.

Speaker A

A minute.

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Let's go.

Speaker B

It's been a minute.

Speaker B

You seen last year, Tim?

Speaker C

Yeah, I ain't seen y since last year either.

Speaker C

Y still look the same.

Speaker A

Yeah, it's been a minute, bro.

Speaker A

Been a good minute.

Speaker B

Hey, first of all year, before we go any further, Tim, you.

Speaker B

What time you get here on time you got.

Speaker A

I'm just saying.

Speaker B

I'm just saying you a tad late.

Speaker B

I couldn't been late.

Speaker C

There's no way I could be late.

Speaker A

It was traffic.

Speaker A

Oh, traffic.

Speaker B

Hey, I called him on the phone

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on the way out the house.

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It wasn't even traffic on the street on the way out the house.

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It was traffic.

Speaker B

Okay, I know that.

Speaker A

That traffic where you got like.

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You got to deal with.

Speaker B

Y' all see what we be dealing with right here?

Speaker A

You got to deal with women.

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Look, this.

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This, this co.

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It's not.

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It's not a.

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It's not a shot at women.

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But when you have to deal with women, they have to be cute in.

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In every dialed up.

Speaker B

Yeah, he was eating.

Speaker C

I. I don't think he communicated with her.

Speaker C

Cuz then when he communicated with that traffic hit.

Speaker B

Yeah, they did.

Speaker C

She probably.

Speaker B

They did more than communicate.

Speaker B

Yeah.

Speaker B

Oh, yeah.

Speaker B

Yep.

Speaker A

Hey, so, Tim, how you.

Speaker B

Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.

Speaker A

Listen up.

Speaker A

Yeah, tell what you been up today?

Speaker B

Yeah, it's a new year.

Speaker C

Just usual, you know, I'm coaching 6

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gr

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time out there early.

Speaker C

My kids too.

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My kids soccer.

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My youngest soccer.

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So they.

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They doing a lot of tournaments now.

Speaker C

Almost like Two.

Speaker C

Two a month.

Speaker B

Oh, yeah, yeah.

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JV Soccer.

Speaker A

Yeah, you did.

Speaker C

And she does the freshman.

Speaker C

Yeah, yeah.

Speaker B

You busy?

Speaker C

Yeah, that's my life right now.

Speaker A

Hey, Tim.

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Golly, Tim, real quick, because I told him the purpose of the show.

Speaker B

Yeah.

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Is to.

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To talk about the.

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The difference between a father and a dad.

Speaker A

Huh.

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And I don't think we ever did this.

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J. I'm gonna do it.

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We gonna start this.

Speaker B

All right, let's go.

Speaker A

How does everything that you just said.

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Cuz I asked you how you were doing.

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Jar.

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I'm sorry, I didn't.

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Junior asked you how you were doing, which you've been up to in your natural response.

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Cuz you ain't answer wrong.

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But your natural response.

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Responsibility was taking care of my keys 100% pretty much.

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You didn't mention you.

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You didn't mention your wife.

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So outside of the show.

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Everybody else don't know this yet, but I know you love your wife.

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Dirty draws.

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But you mentioned your kids first.

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Your whole schedule behind.

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Your kids.

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So how do you feel about being full time dad?

Speaker B

Yeah, well, with four kids,

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it's like right now, my life involves.

Speaker B

Yeah, he left it in photo.

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Yeah.

Speaker C

Around all them.

Speaker C

That's why you say how I'm doing.

Speaker C

My schedule is.

Speaker A

Is pretty much their schedule.

Speaker A

Yeah.

Speaker B

Heck yeah.

Speaker C

And then if I can spot in my wife in there.

Speaker B

Yeah.

Speaker C

And it be nice cuz I showed his.

Speaker B

Hey, this what we deal with, right?

Speaker C

Yes, sir.

Speaker A

But.

Speaker A

But it's.

Speaker A

It's funny when you.

Speaker A

When you listen to.

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To dad's talk.

Speaker B

Yeah.

Speaker B

Yeah.

Speaker A

Your whole life too.

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I. I don't.

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I don't.

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I don't know about y'.

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All.

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So I ain't gonna talk for y'.

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All.

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I'm gonna talk for me.

Speaker C

Okay.

Speaker A

I don't talk to dudes.

Speaker A

I'm cool with dudes.

Speaker A

Uhhuh.

Speaker A

Who Life ain't centered around their kids.

Speaker A

So they schedule is this, that the other.

Speaker B

Yeah.

Speaker A

And your first thought.

Speaker A

Like, your first thought is my first thought.

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I'm gonna tell you what I've been doing with the family ain't about what I did, and I ain't doing it now.

Speaker B

But you know what's funny though?

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Every time we do ass, it'd be like, oh, I'm good.

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Then we go off into the family.

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The family.

Speaker A

It's not about me.

Speaker B

But I think that's just not at all us as men, bro.

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Especially dads.

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We're not even thinking about us.

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We put us way at the back of the list because it ain't time for us to be talking about right now.

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And, and, and so we don't ask this question before, but how does that make you feel about being put on the back burner, but also being the same person complaining about being put on the back burner?

Speaker C

So what you gotta understand is that you have all this responsibility.

Speaker A

Yeah.

Speaker C

So you are the man.

Speaker B

Yeah.

Speaker C

You are the king.

Speaker B

Yeah.

Speaker C

So you get all that responsibility.

Speaker C

So that's why everybody is first in the family and you is last because

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you are the king of the family.

Speaker B

Yeah, but.

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But then too.

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But how did.

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But it.

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But so, so that is the honesty.

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God, truth.

Speaker C

Yes, it is.

Speaker A

But everybody went through a phase.

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Are still going through the phase of that's hard.

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So it might not be for you because Tim is the strong individual.

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Maybe.

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Jared, it may be me meaning to answer my own question, but how does it make you feel like if you're talking about you, how does it make you think it might not be feelings because you don't want to talk about your feelings, but when you break down and think about you so because you got to think about you at the end of the day.

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Well, I, I just think, for me, I just think it comes from.

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From what I believe in.

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Right.

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So for me is like, I'm not expecting all this.

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I just know my duty.

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I just know what I need to be doing as a dad.

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It then too, as a father of the husband.

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Right.

Speaker B

This is what I'm expected to do.

Speaker B

Am I looking for the, the woo woos and the praise?

Speaker B

Not really.

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Because I.

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In my mind, in my heart, this is what I believe I'm supposed to be doing.

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It don't matter if it's going left, if it's going right.

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I just know for a fact I'm supposed to be going this way if I'm making sense, you know what I'm saying?

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Because my, my belief is that every man should be the head of the house and make sure the head is going this direction.

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Everybody should follow.

Speaker A

So what y' all are saying is your complaints are literally just.

Speaker A

I just needed to get it out.

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I'm not complaining because I need to be doing something else or I want to be doing something else.

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I just want to hear myself complain about it.

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But I'm gonna go back to doing what I'm supposed to be doing.

Speaker B

Right.

Speaker B

But then too, which men should I say?

Speaker B

Grown men sit around and complain about their responsibility that they supposed to be doing.

Speaker A

I, I ain't gonna lie to you.

Speaker B

I complain.

Speaker B

Somebody had to come.

Speaker B

Look, you ain't Gonna complain.

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Ain't gonna complain to us because y' all ain't gonna think about me.

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Because the reason why I said that, because, look, when we around each other, we.

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We really don't complain about what we do wrong or what we doing.

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We never complain because why?

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We know for a fact all of us sitting here, we doing this, and that's what we supposed to be doing.

Speaker B

So.

Speaker A

So listen, I'm trying my best to play devil's advocate, cuz y' all working.

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It ain't working.

Speaker C

But y.

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But y' all not just talking to me.

Speaker B

But I get that.

Speaker B

But I get that, Dominique.

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So for all the dads that's out there, that's listening, right, for the.

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The.

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The praise and all the woo woos and ride, you're not going to get it, because why, When.

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When.

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When do.

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But, but.

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But see, I'm not even.

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I'm not even breaking down asking y' all about the praise.

Speaker A

We know.

Speaker A

We get that we're not gonna get the praise.

Speaker A

But what I'm asking about just simply, how do you feel?

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Or what is.

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What is your thought process based on?

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You.

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So I'll go for me.

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Yes.

Speaker A

I have to hear myself complain.

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I'm still going to do this.

Speaker A

I don't even listen for.

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For the compliments.

Speaker A

I don't even listen for the thank yous.

Speaker A

Like, I literally just keep going, right?

Speaker A

And then sit here and complain.

Speaker A

And then my woman will say, somewhere Kason got on me last week, like, daddy, I just said thank you.

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Oh, my.

Speaker A

I just want to complain.

Speaker A

I'm going complain, cuz I want to complain.

Speaker A

So I don't listen for it.

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I really and truly believe that as a man, this is what I'm supposed to be doing.

Speaker C

Okay.

Speaker A

But the simple thought of it's hard when you deal with.

Speaker A

As dealing with kids or dealing with a woman.

Speaker A

That's not what you're supposed to be doing.

Speaker A

So you're not supposed to be thinking about me in that same manner.

Speaker A

And I feel a way about that.

Speaker A

Like, I'm gonna say I get in my feelings because it's.

Speaker B

I get what you're saying, but I

Speaker A

feel away because it's.

Speaker A

I walk in the door, and yes, daddy is.

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Is the love of everybody life.

Speaker A

Yeah.

Speaker A

So when you around your girls, your girls love you like none other.

Speaker A

Your son is looking up to you like none other.

Speaker A

But I could care less about what's going on with you.

Speaker B

Yeah.

Speaker A

Yeah.

Speaker A

You just had the rough day.

Speaker A

I don't care.

Speaker A

I need money.

Speaker A

Yeah, you.

Speaker A

I. I sound like mine.

Speaker A

You had, you had a long day.

Speaker A

I'm running the business now, so I'm gonna have a long day.

Speaker A

But it's.

Speaker A

It's hard dealing with some of these clients.

Speaker A

It is.

Speaker A

And when you come home, don't nobody, don't nobody care.

Speaker A

I could care less what's going on with you.

Speaker A

So it's like, like I said, I don't get in my feelings, but just appreciate it.

Speaker A

I'm in my feelings.

Speaker B

Like, yeah, you're gonna feel appreciated.

Speaker B

You can't.

Speaker A

So.

Speaker A

So that's what I'm saying.

Speaker C

We like, we just do it.

Speaker C

Cuz we supposed to be doing it.

Speaker A

But you b.

Speaker A

But you bottling all it up is what I'm saying.

Speaker A

Well, yeah, so that's what I'm saying.

Speaker A

So the only, the only chance you have to talk about it is like in these environment, I don't have a therapist, so the only chance I have to open up about it is here.

Speaker A

But I can't do it at the house.

Speaker B

I feel like we on the couch and he a therapist.

Speaker B

Look where he sitting at.

Speaker B

Look where he sit.

Speaker A

Let me go get my notepad.

Speaker B

Hey, we on the couch right now and he's a therapist and trying to get it out of bus.

Speaker B

God damn it.

Speaker B

But no.

Speaker B

Well, look, but I. I'm gonna lie.

Speaker B

I. I do feel what you're saying because we do go through a lot as men every day, but at the end of the day we just want some comfort.

Speaker B

Am I correct?

Speaker B

Because.

Speaker B

Because the stuff that we go through is daily especially.

Speaker B

I can just speak for just, you know, I don't like to, you know, racialize the thing, but it's black men.

Speaker B

We go through a lot during the day, but at the same time, we do want that, you know, shoulder rub.

Speaker B

Not even necessarily the shoulder rub.

Speaker B

It can be just more of a, you know, how was your day?

Speaker B

Type deal.

Speaker A

Because it's an acknowledgment.

Speaker B

Yeah.

Speaker B

You know what I'm saying?

Speaker B

Just to, just to see me, you know what I'm saying?

Speaker B

Because the day that we have, a lot of people don't see it in our perspective, you know what I'm saying?

Speaker B

Because to me, it could be a normal day, but she might see, baby, you know, you did this, he did you like that.

Speaker B

And you did it.

Speaker B

I did, I saw it all.

Speaker B

But this is a normal day for me, you know what I'm saying?

Speaker B

But I just think that part we just don't get the knowledge for, you know, as men going out into the

Speaker A

room and for Me, I think it has a.

Speaker A

As a man, because everybody's household is different.

Speaker A

I don't know how Junior's wife treats him.

Speaker A

I don't know how Tim's wife treats him.

Speaker A

And I'm not gonna.

Speaker A

I'm not.

Speaker A

And I'm not gonna ask y' all about you and your wife, but at my household, my.

Speaker A

My wife and I call him a wife.

Speaker A

Treats me well.

Speaker B

Yeah.

Speaker B

Getting married.

Speaker A

But the.

Speaker A

The acknowledgment thing is, it's.

Speaker A

It's literally just your perspective.

Speaker A

So Junior, in his mind, might be going through hell.

Speaker A

And then he talked to Tim.

Speaker A

He's like, oh, you're going through the same thing.

Speaker A

Yeah.

Speaker A

Okay, so it really ain't that bad.

Speaker A

Yeah.

Speaker A

I'm just going through some things, right.

Speaker A

Because everybody's going through something in its third perspective when we talk about women, and women go through their emotions and blase, blah, blah, whatever, but for a man, we don't.

Speaker A

Junior, you told the truth.

Speaker A

But we don't talk about that.

Speaker B

We don't.

Speaker A

We just chilling.

Speaker B

Well, that's it.

Speaker A

That's what it is.

Speaker A

But the.

Speaker A

The honesty got truth.

Speaker A

Especially when you talking to Ali, dad, bro, I do got feelings in my.

Speaker A

My feelings get hurt sometimes because y' all ain't gonna acknowledge her.

Speaker A

But I just paid the light bill, too, and it was just.

Speaker A

It was just 200.

Speaker A

But.

Speaker A

But you turn them lights on and I paid it, you ain't gonna acknowledge me.

Speaker B

Yeah, but see, that's the thing, though.

Speaker B

But.

Speaker B

But for us, it's like, it's a normal day for us.

Speaker B

You know what I'm saying?

Speaker B

That's normal.

Speaker A

I really, truly feel.

Speaker A

I ain't going to lie to you.

Speaker A

It's the, like, the little boy in you, like, I just want to be acknowledged.

Speaker B

Yeah, of course.

Speaker B

100%.

Speaker B

100% man.

Speaker B

Now, look, now, before we go further, Tim, we all do this.

Speaker B

All right?

Speaker B

So we got this new thing that we do before we go to the next segment or the next chapter.

Speaker B

It's called trivia.

Speaker B

Hey, for y' all that don't realize we just added trivia to the.

Speaker B

To the show.

Speaker B

And, Tim, you have four categories, you know, I'm saying, to pick from.

Speaker A

Okay?

Speaker B

You got sports, movies, see what you see, say what you see, and music.

Speaker B

So you get to pick to which one.

Speaker B

Dominique gonna pull your car, he gonna read it, then vice versa for all three of us, okay?

Speaker B

And while he's pulling out these shots, and he better give us some little baby.

Speaker B

He probably put mine more.

Speaker B

I gotta.

Speaker B

Ain't Watch it and.

Speaker B

Yeah, but give me a little bit more, bro.

Speaker B

Give me a little bit more.

Speaker B

That's 100 proof.

Speaker B

That must smooth.

Speaker B

And you're gonna have to induce that one today.

Speaker B

No, you will.

Speaker B

He gonna introduce this one day, show the camera what we drinking on.

Speaker B

Because they don't even realize we be drinking on the show.

Speaker B

Yes, that's what we drinking right there.

Speaker B

Yeah, honey.

Speaker B

Yeah.

Speaker A

Let's get down.

Speaker C

Say whoa.

Speaker B

All right, Tim, go ahead.

Speaker B

Tell you get a chance to pick sports, movies.

Speaker B

Say what you see.

Speaker B

And music.

Speaker A

What you want, bro?

Speaker B

All right.

Speaker C

Say what you see.

Speaker B

Oh, get him, Dominique.

Speaker B

Make sure you hide the answer.

Speaker C

Then you got to turn that way.

Speaker A

No, no, I got to read.

Speaker B

You got to read.

Speaker A

I'm going to show you, and then I'm going to show the camera.

Speaker A

All right.

Speaker C

It look like bait.

Speaker B

Yeah.

Speaker B

What is it?

Speaker B

Is it your answer?

Speaker C

Yeah, cuz it look like bait.

Speaker B

Okay, what's the answer, Dominique?

Speaker B

Half bait.

Speaker B

Okay, cool.

Speaker B

What we going to give Dominique, though?

Speaker B

Yeah, you wrong, too.

Speaker B

Yeah, you didn't get it right.

Speaker B

You got.

Speaker A

You got half.

Speaker B

You got half.

Speaker C

No, you can't get them too many.

Speaker A

One, one, one.

Speaker C

Just do half that.

Speaker C

Just do half of that.

Speaker A

I told you the first time I heard it in my earphone, he played.

Speaker A

I don't like that.

Speaker A

I don't like that.

Speaker C

Well, now I know it was the first one.

Speaker B

You know, let's say that was half baked, too.

Speaker B

Not.

Speaker B

Okay, don't eat.

Speaker B

Your turn.

Speaker B

Give them.

Speaker B

Don't get them to him.

Speaker A

I'm on.

Speaker A

I want movie trivia.

Speaker C

Okay, Movie trivia.

Speaker B

Make sure you have the answer.

Speaker B

The answer, I think.

Speaker C

Okay, my bad.

Speaker B

All right, you good?

Speaker C

So which Disney villain turns into a dragon?

Speaker C

You got A, Maleficent, B, Ursula or C, Jafar.

Speaker A

Marie did this one.

Speaker A

Hold on.

Speaker A

We might.

Speaker A

We did this one.

Speaker B

We did do that.

Speaker B

Yeah.

Speaker A

Okay.

Speaker B

We did do that.

Speaker C

Yeah, Throw that in there.

Speaker B

Yeah, shuffle them, bad boy.

Speaker C

All right.

Speaker B

Don't put it back.

Speaker B

Okay, then.

Speaker B

Cool.

Speaker B

All right.

Speaker B

Yeah.

Speaker A

You good?

Speaker C

Should be good.

Speaker A

Okay.

Speaker C

True or false?

Speaker C

Ratatouille is a name of the rat in Ratatouille.

Speaker A

Say it one more time.

Speaker C

True or false?

Speaker C

Ratatouille is the name of the rat.

Speaker C

And Ratatouille.

Speaker A

True.

Speaker B

Look, that's my movie.

Speaker B

Ratatouille.

Speaker B

My movie.

Speaker B

No, false.

Speaker B

Go ahead.

Speaker C

F. His name is Remy.

Speaker B

Yeah.

Speaker C

The name of a French dish.

Speaker B

All right.

Speaker B

D. Yeah, that's.

Speaker B

That's a.

Speaker B

That's an actual dish called Ratatouille.

Speaker C

I going to trip.

Speaker B

I'm go.

Speaker A

I'm going Go.

Speaker A

Sp.

Speaker B

Sports.

Speaker B

And we love sports.

Speaker B

What you got?

Speaker B

Let's see.

Speaker B

I got to read my own card.

Speaker A

No, you can't.

Speaker A

What name is used for the jagged teeth found on the front of a figure skate blade?

Speaker A

A, toe pick, B, rink tooth, C, spur.

Speaker B

Hold on.

Speaker B

You said.

Speaker B

What was the.

Speaker B

What was A?

Speaker A

A is toe pick, B is rink tooth.

Speaker A

C is spur.

Speaker B

I'm gonna say C. Spur.

Speaker A

Spur.

Speaker B

Yeah.

Speaker A

Tim, I wish you had the button.

Speaker A

Give him that one.

Speaker A

One this one more time.

Speaker A

Press it one more time.

Speaker B

Yeah, you know what?

Speaker C

Dang.

Speaker B

Yeah, there you go.

Speaker B

I'm gonna stop.

Speaker B

My name.

Speaker B

What was the answer?

Speaker B

What was the answer?

Speaker A

Topi.

Speaker B

Man, I had.

Speaker A

We all got it wrong.

Speaker B

Look, we owing one.

Speaker A

Everybody.

Speaker A

Everybody got.

Speaker A

Everybody got it wrong.

Speaker A

Hey, but listen up.

Speaker C

We listening.

Speaker A

Listen, though, you know, before we go to the next segment.

Speaker B

Yeah, you know it.

Speaker B

You know, let's go, let's go.

Speaker B

It's a honey proof.

Speaker C

Say that again.

Speaker C

My goodness.

Speaker B

Yeah, I know that's rough, but it's smooth, but it's rough.

Speaker C

Yeah, I can make my insides, you

Speaker A

know, burning just a little bit.

Speaker A

Listen.

Speaker A

All right, so y' all get.

Speaker A

Y'.

Speaker B

All.

Speaker A

Y' all get our pick.

Speaker A

Oh, this freestyle for real.

Speaker A

We didn't even go before we started.

Speaker A

Number one.

Speaker B

Yeah.

Speaker A

Why do dad slash men feel like they have to be Superman all the time?

Speaker A

Number two.

Speaker A

How often do you have one on one time with your child for everybody here?

Speaker B

I like two.

Speaker A

Okay, well, we stay with that then.

Speaker B

We ain't gonna buy like two.

Speaker A

No, Tim ain't hurt.

Speaker A

Tim, did you read off all of.

Speaker A

I did.

Speaker A

Okay.

Speaker A

All right, so let's start with two then.

Speaker A

How often do you have one on one time with your child?

Speaker A

One of y' all start.

Speaker B

I start.

Speaker B

I can't stand Tim.

Speaker B

I can't stand them.

Speaker B

I don't have it enough because I never got it either.

Speaker B

I never got it when I grew up enough, you know what I'm saying?

Speaker B

But I believe that one on one time, it's good to feel out where your kids are, you know, just in school, just dealing with.

Speaker B

With life, just any problems, and just to see how they are as a human being.

Speaker B

But just dealing with them one on one, you know, it's.

Speaker B

It's actually a privilege because I get to see how they're growing, if that makes any sense.

Speaker B

Because like, my.

Speaker B

Let me see my.

Speaker B

Like my oldest boy, when we get one on one time together, he finally kind of, like, speak up a little bit more.

Speaker B

But when we in the group, he's like, you know, Size.

Speaker B

But he ain't quiet.

Speaker B

But he's being quiet.

Speaker A

But he's being more quiet than everybody else.

Speaker B

Right.

Speaker B

So.

Speaker B

But when we one on one, I get to figure out what kind of music he listen to, you know what I'm saying?

Speaker B

Who, like, you know, what's going on in life, what he dealing with.

Speaker B

I just don't do it enough, you know, as a, as a father.

Speaker B

And I think we should do more because they on their phones more than they dealing with us every day, you know what I'm saying?

Speaker B

Then they at school, so they got a lot of voices in their ear more than mine, which I want more of.

Speaker A

All right, two.

Speaker B

Yep.

Speaker A

To you, they jrp, Let me tell you this.

Speaker C

When you only got one child, you have it all the time.

Speaker C

So really talking to people that have multiple kids.

Speaker B

Yeah, that's true.

Speaker C

And so really, it's hard when you have a multiple kids and they always together.

Speaker C

So really the only one on one for me, honestly, is whenever I have.

Speaker C

When I have them by myself in the car with them.

Speaker C

So usually, like my younger daughter, soccer practice, I'm taking her soccer practice, and it's just me.

Speaker C

So we talking one on one.

Speaker A

Yeah.

Speaker C

There'll be times where so my other.

Speaker C

My eighth grade daughter, we.

Speaker C

We're at the same school.

Speaker C

So that's when I get my one on time with her.

Speaker A

Yeah.

Speaker C

And then if I pick up my oldest.

Speaker C

So it's the only time I get one on one.

Speaker C

If I go pick them up on that, all that kind of stuff.

Speaker C

We have a conversation.

Speaker C

We didn't have a talk, but most of the time, everybody together.

Speaker C

So it's hard to have that one on one.

Speaker C

And I know they have, but here's the thing.

Speaker C

It's just getting them to like, getting them to talk to you more.

Speaker B

Is that, Is that, Is that sometimes hard for you, though?

Speaker C

It's hard, yeah.

Speaker B

Okay.

Speaker B

Because I know I had that same problem because, like, just trying to, you know, get something out of them, you know, not even just to say I'm looking for something, you know, I just want to see, you know.

Speaker A

Yeah.

Speaker B

So I can see if you can have a conversation with me.

Speaker B

You know what I'm saying?

Speaker B

Because we talk about it all the time on the show.

Speaker B

Like my parents, when I grew up, I was scared to talk to my dad.

Speaker B

I didn't want.

Speaker B

I didn't want that for them.

Speaker A

Same here.

Speaker B

Because I'm.

Speaker A

I'm firm, so.

Speaker A

So watch.

Speaker A

Pete, do you think we're.

Speaker A

We're being a parent out of trauma?

Speaker A

Because you were scared to talk to your dad.

Speaker A

You had something made up in your head that your kids should talk to you since you.

Speaker A

You.

Speaker A

I don't parent you like my daddy.

Speaker B

Parenting.

Speaker B

I can say.

Speaker B

Yeah, because.

Speaker B

Because I didn't get a chance to, you know, voice my opinion, you know, to my dad, you know what I'm saying?

Speaker B

But I want to make sure he has an opinion for himself, you know what I'm saying?

Speaker B

Because my dad probably looked at me this way right then, but I look at you this way, you know?

Speaker B

So for me, I want you to be able to, you know, be able to open up to me, make sure you know for a fact it's safe, bro.

Speaker B

To come talk to me.

Speaker B

Because if you don't, you're going to talk to somebody else.

Speaker B

But I don't want you to be able to do that.

Speaker B

But am I being harsh or am I being like, too.

Speaker B

What they call it, like, assertive to you to make you speak up?

Speaker B

What do you call it?

Speaker B

You know, you being.

Speaker A

You're.

Speaker A

You're being overly assertive because of.

Speaker A

Of that.

Speaker C

But right, Tim, see here.

Speaker C

Here it is.

Speaker C

So you got to lay the ground down with them, help them understand.

Speaker B

Tim is the.

Speaker C

I'll be trying to.

Speaker C

I've been trying to tell them, like.

Speaker C

Yeah, you talk to your friends.

Speaker A

How old are they?

Speaker B

They all.

Speaker C

They 14.

Speaker C

Okay.

Speaker C

So they've been in the world for 14 years.

Speaker C

In the world for 43.

Speaker C

I did the same kind of stuff.

Speaker C

We had one big question with my kids because they want social media.

Speaker A

Yeah.

Speaker B

Yeah.

Speaker C

And so I had to really tell it to him when it comes to social media.

Speaker B

Oh, I'm glad you brought that up.

Speaker C

Oh, yeah, I'm glad.

Speaker C

Because they want one, and I'm kind of figuring out.

Speaker C

I think one has one, and they didn't say anything.

Speaker C

So, you know.

Speaker B

Yeah.

Speaker B

Yeah.

Speaker C

But here it is.

Speaker C

So this is.

Speaker C

This is why, like, a mom and dad should stay together.

Speaker C

Because I got girls, so we girls will always go to mom.

Speaker B

Yeah.

Speaker C

But you already know mom is going to talk with dad.

Speaker B

Yeah.

Speaker C

And say, hey, this is what's going on.

Speaker B

Yeah.

Speaker C

So I'm gonna get it anyway.

Speaker C

I'm telling the girls that.

Speaker B

Yeah.

Speaker C

But they should understand that.

Speaker B

Yeah.

Speaker C

I'm gonna find out.

Speaker C

But I always tell him this.

Speaker C

I said, God is watch you all the time.

Speaker B

Yeah.

Speaker C

And he's gonna reveal it to me.

Speaker B

Yeah.

Speaker C

Because we are tight like that.

Speaker A

Yeah, like that.

Speaker B

Yeah.

Speaker B

Very tight.

Speaker A

My main.

Speaker A

Main.

Speaker B

Yes.

Speaker C

The guy we so tight that he's gonna reveal it to me.

Speaker A

Yeah.

Speaker C

What you doing?

Speaker B

Yeah.

Speaker C

And whether you like it or not, he sees it all the time.

Speaker B

Yeah.

Speaker C

So I'm not trying to scare him with that.

Speaker B

Nah, it's funny, but I tell him that.

Speaker B

But it's funny you brought that up so years ago, right.

Speaker B

I was, I'm in the bed, bro.

Speaker B

I'm asleep.

Speaker B

We wasn't standing Carlton.

Speaker B

And my oldest, my baby girl, she was in her room, she was on her phone and something told me to get up and go check up on and like going there and check up on the.

Speaker B

Bro, she on her phone and she ain't supposed to be on it.

Speaker B

I'm like, you know for a fact you don't supposed to be on your phone.

Speaker B

I told you, I'm not even looking for it.

Speaker B

I'm not looking for you to be on your phone.

Speaker B

I'm not even looking for nothing negative in your life.

Speaker B

But somebody told me to get up and go in your room for no reason and check up on you to let you know for a fact you're supposed to be on your phone.

Speaker B

But it's funny you brought that up because I say that all the time to my kids.

Speaker B

It's like, look, daddy don't look for trouble.

Speaker B

Trouble come find me.

Speaker B

And not in a bad way, you know, it's in a good way.

Speaker B

To the point where I don't want you to go down this path.

Speaker A

Yep.

Speaker B

You know, a path of being like sneaky come my oldest boy, man.

Speaker A

And, and, and the, the way God reveals.

Speaker A

So I, I remember how Tim talking right now.

Speaker A

I remember, I remember hearing my, my dad talk like that.

Speaker B

Yeah.

Speaker A

And I'm so confident in there's nothing you can get away with while I'm your daddy.

Speaker A

But it's scary and, and I never understood it, so I never understood it.

Speaker A

And I'm like, how he know.

Speaker A

And bro, you know, my, my daddy started me in church early.

Speaker A

I ain't never seen God come down and say, hey, it's over there.

Speaker A

So when you tell me God is telling you everything I'm doing.

Speaker A

How?

Speaker B

How?

Speaker A

Yeah, it's him.

Speaker A

Like, cuz it ain't just your wife that's telling you teaching Duncanville.

Speaker A

I know everything that's going on in Duncanville.

Speaker A

Whether, you know, I know that teacher or that principal or that coach or whatever.

Speaker A

And that's always funny when you hear somebody talking like, bro, I remember when I was a child, bro, I thought I was getting away with something.

Speaker B

Get away with.

Speaker A

Bur I ain't, I ain't even know my daddy knew you yeah, you snitch.

Speaker B

Yeah, look, it's funny.

Speaker B

So I. I always bring this up to my kids.

Speaker B

I bring this up to my boys.

Speaker B

I be like, look, man, if it's a problem, come to me.

Speaker C

Yep.

Speaker B

Your mama snitch.

Speaker B

I'mma tell you, cuz every time you get in trouble, she going to tell me.

Speaker B

And they don't believe it.

Speaker B

And look, they wonder why, how I find out.

Speaker B

And every time at the end of the conversation, tell him, I'd be like, you know I found out, right?

Speaker B

Your mama told.

Speaker B

But it's not the point that I'm trying to label her as a snitch.

Speaker B

I have eyes on you at all times.

Speaker B

And you're not realizing that.

Speaker A

J, I remember.

Speaker B

I remember.

Speaker A

J. I remember you when you stayed.

Speaker A

You stayed out there.

Speaker A

In Carrollton.

Speaker A

Yeah, in Carrollton.

Speaker A

So at this time, I don't know if you remember, but at this time they had just started doing where everybody could have camels and so everybody would have it to where, you know, you could put it in your room, but everybody had like this little monitor thing.

Speaker A

And cuz we had at the house, we had then.

Speaker B

Yeah.

Speaker A

And I remember hearing J stories and he had a story every other conversation to him.

Speaker A

And you know, alas, we talk once every air.

Speaker A

Blue moon.

Speaker A

Every blue moon.

Speaker A

Every other conversation.

Speaker A

This what J.R. bringing up.

Speaker A

And he talked about his kid and he, like, Domini, they ain't even know I'm.

Speaker A

I'm at work.

Speaker A

J.R. had everything logged into his phone.

Speaker A

So at this time, I remember being on the phone, I was like, bro, I commend you.

Speaker A

Like, I. I gotta give you all the credit because he had everything, the music they were listening to, everything, everything that was going on in the house came through his phone.

Speaker A

So they couldn't do nothing without Junior.

Speaker A

Normally, they knew it, but, you know, as a kid, I'm just having fun.

Speaker A

I don't care.

Speaker A

And that's when he was doing.

Speaker A

He was working with the Pepsi and everything.

Speaker B

Yeah.

Speaker A

Jay had called me Dominic.

Speaker A

They did it again.

Speaker A

They did it again.

Speaker A

They start playing the music like.

Speaker A

Like, I don't know, y' all changing.

Speaker A

Y' all changing them.

Speaker A

My place.

Speaker A

I listen to the.

Speaker A

I'm listening to my songs all day.

Speaker A

So when y' all change it.

Speaker B

I know.

Speaker A

Yeah.

Speaker A

Then when y' all get in the dead, I see everything y' all doing.

Speaker A

Y' all doing right here in front of the camera.

Speaker A

Y' all don't want to go to your room, you don't want to go in the kitchen.

Speaker A

You want to go Where I tell you the camera and act like you surprised I know exactly what you're doing.

Speaker B

Yeah.

Speaker B

Hey, Tim, look, I got pictures.

Speaker B

I had pictures then, too.

Speaker B

The crazy thing is, I'm at work, I'm listening to my playlist.

Speaker B

They changing the song on the little Google thing at home.

Speaker B

But as it's changing, it's changing in my ears, and they wonder why it's not playing, but at the same time, trying to tell them, leave my stuff alone, all right?

Speaker B

You know what I'm saying?

Speaker B

But it's.

Speaker B

It's not.

Speaker B

It's not even the point.

Speaker B

I'm trying to be strict as a parent.

Speaker B

It's just.

Speaker B

The point is, communicate with me, then everything will go fine.

Speaker B

Don't assume I don't know, because when you assume I don't know, that's when we have a problem.

Speaker A

But it's.

Speaker A

It's for, like, when you talk to everybody else, when you're going through it, it's.

Speaker A

It's World War III.

Speaker B

Nah.

Speaker B

100.

Speaker A

It's World War 3, and I'm ready to knock some heads off.

Speaker A

Yeah, but when you listen to other dads, like, just listen to your bro.

Speaker A

Ain't nobody asked Dominic how I'm doing, what was going on with my week.

Speaker A

I ain't opened up about nothing.

Speaker A

I'm just listening to y' all and listen to y'.

Speaker B

All.

Speaker A

It's funny.

Speaker A

Like, bruh, everything Tim talking about, everything JR Talking about, bro, I'm going through.

Speaker A

I tried that method.

Speaker A

I tried that method.

Speaker A

Neither one of them met this work.

Speaker A

I'm still ready to knock the heads off they show.

Speaker A

But look, listen to y'.

Speaker A

All.

Speaker A

It's funny.

Speaker B

But look, the crazy thing is, you know what?

Speaker B

For us, we said all the time on this show, there's no book on parents.

Speaker C

Nope.

Speaker C

Not at all.

Speaker B

Because, look, you might be in chapter 16, and I'm in chapter seven.

Speaker B

I ain't even got 16 yet.

Speaker B

I know it's coming.

Speaker C

I could have skipped

Speaker A

and try to find whatever you're trying to find the answer.

Speaker A

So I'm listening to y' all talk about one on one.

Speaker B

Yeah.

Speaker A

So for me, I grew up, my trauma was my dad embarrassing me.

Speaker A

I don't know if Tim remember.

Speaker A

I don't know if you remember Junior, but my dad don't have a filter.

Speaker A

So if he got to tell me something, it don't matter who around.

Speaker A

Bro, that's the most embarrassing thing ever for me.

Speaker A

So for me, I never do my kids like that.

Speaker A

If you're in trouble, I got something to Say I pull you over so I gotta get better like you were saying with my one on ones.

Speaker A

Because my one on ones have consisted in.

Speaker A

I gotta break down something on you being in trouble.

Speaker B

Yeah.

Speaker A

Or doing something wrong.

Speaker B

Yeah.

Speaker A

I'm not doing a whole lot of one on ones where it's just talking.

Speaker A

Yeah, just talk.

Speaker A

Just what's up with you?

Speaker A

And I have it because I talk to you every day.

Speaker A

But it's not a real one on one.

Speaker A

No, it's just a consistent.

Speaker A

Let's talk.

Speaker B

I got a question for, for both of y'.

Speaker A

All.

Speaker A

Do.

Speaker B

Do your kids not know that y' all a little funny day?

Speaker B

Because when we together we're funny.

Speaker B

Yeah, we're the cool dads.

Speaker B

Yeah, but do your kids not know that you are the cool and funny dad?

Speaker A

I know I'm that.

Speaker A

I'm that dude every.

Speaker A

Every day, all day.

Speaker A

So my kids know.

Speaker B

But see cuz I don't.

Speaker A

My kids know because.

Speaker B

Because I know for a fact when I'm out with my kids I can turn it on and cut it off.

Speaker A

Right.

Speaker B

But a lot of dads can't.

Speaker B

So for all the dads out there, just be you.

Speaker B

You know what I'm saying?

Speaker B

Because everybody know you are the guy that brings the joy into the conversation.

Speaker A

But see they, they work.

Speaker A

They work in my favor because they, they know when daddy turn that joy off.

Speaker B

Yeah.

Speaker A

Oh, he mean be.

Speaker B

No, but I got that, I got that look from his dad.

Speaker B

The thousand.

Speaker B

The look that tell a thousand words.

Speaker B

Bro, bro.

Speaker B

I'm taking the 20.

Speaker B

My grave, bro.

Speaker B

Tim.

Speaker B

The look that tells a thousand words.

Speaker A

And, and, and you know the funny thing?

Speaker A

Tim can talk.

Speaker A

Only everybody we going to bring on the show, everybody we grew up with can talk on it.

Speaker A

I still ain't got it.

Speaker B

Damn.

Speaker A

Like my dad could have a smirk on his face.

Speaker A

Tim knew what it meant.

Speaker B

Oh I, I knew, honey, he, he

Speaker A

didn't grow up in the house with me.

Speaker A

He know what that look mean.

Speaker B

That's why he called it the look tell a thousand words.

Speaker B

Cuz you don't know what that look is.

Speaker B

That look could be like.

Speaker B

Is he playing now?

Speaker B

He's serious now.

Speaker B

He's joking now.

Speaker B

He just crazy.

Speaker A

I ain't got that look.

Speaker B

I got down to a teenage.

Speaker A

Oh no, I ain't got it down.

Speaker B

I got it down to it.

Speaker A

I go from joyful to yeah, daddy mad.

Speaker A

Your daddy made.

Speaker B

But look, do you say something?

Speaker B

Oh yeah, see, I won't say that.

Speaker A

Not.

Speaker A

Not right then and there.

Speaker A

I'm gonna give you the look, but like I just said.

Speaker B

Yeah.

Speaker A

Oh my.

Speaker A

I'm not gonna put you out there like that.

Speaker A

Like even around your siblings, I'm not gonna put you out there.

Speaker A

I'm gonna pull you over here, I'm gonna pull you out here and we gonna have a conversation.

Speaker B

Do that.

Speaker B

Go back to how you grew up.

Speaker B

You just said.

Speaker B

Yeah.

Speaker B

Your dad embarrassed you.

Speaker A

Yeah.

Speaker B

You know what I'm saying?

Speaker B

Yeah.

Speaker B

Because I.

Speaker B

And what you said at the beginning, you was like, do they go off your childhood traumas or how you raising your kids, you know, when you do your one on one time?

Speaker B

Because for me, I knew for a fact I didn't get it like that.

Speaker B

So me, I'm gonna definitely try to in over enhance myself and to figure out what's going on with you in your life, because I didn't get it.

Speaker B

But now I'm so curious about what's going in your life because I didn't have it, bro.

Speaker B

Like, come on.

Speaker B

Like I, I played basketball.

Speaker B

I did all these type of sports and stuff like that.

Speaker B

And my dad didn't know.

Speaker B

But at the same time, I want to make sure my kids know for a fact.

Speaker B

Look, bro, I don't care how bad you feel.

Speaker B

I don't care how bad you miss that layup.

Speaker B

I want you to know for a fact I was there.

Speaker B

I saw you miss that one.

Speaker A

I'm still the loudest one.

Speaker B

I don't care.

Speaker A

The loudest one.

Speaker B

I don't care.

Speaker A

That means something.

Speaker A

Like I.

Speaker A

So my, My daddy was the, the.

Speaker A

He used to talk to me like I was a deaf child.

Speaker A

But I know why he start, he started talking to me with sign language.

Speaker A

Cuz when you talk to me in my game, my kids is really who proved it to me.

Speaker A

Don't talk to me during my game.

Speaker A

I don't care if I messed up.

Speaker A

I don't care if I did something good.

Speaker A

Stop calling my name.

Speaker A

Stop trying to talk.

Speaker A

Talk to me.

Speaker A

If I'm looking at you, I'm looking at you.

Speaker A

Just cuz I need to see that familiar face.

Speaker A

And then I come back to my reality.

Speaker A

And so like as a parent, as a sports parent, you forget your reality ain't their reality.

Speaker A

I'm out here doing it.

Speaker A

So Tim, when you see all I had to do was move to the right to get the ball.

Speaker A

That's not what I was thinking about when I was playing.

Speaker A

Yeah, I always thinking about going to the left that looks, looked smarter than me.

Speaker A

So my kids showed it to me.

Speaker A

So my dad started talking to me in Sign language.

Speaker A

And I started learning without these little movements.

Speaker B

Went.

Speaker A

But, Jay, I ain't deaf, so I ain't never took the sign language class.

Speaker A

But he started talking to me in sign language to get me to.

Speaker A

To move forward.

Speaker A

So he.

Speaker A

He's not the loudest one all the time.

Speaker A

Sometimes he doing sign language.

Speaker A

But when my career ended and I'm done playing sports now I'm just a grown man looking back, we having these conversations and talking.

Speaker A

It's like, what J. I just said exactly how I feel.

Speaker A

But I remember now when I was going through it.

Speaker A

He'll tell you after the game.

Speaker A

I don't want to talk to you.

Speaker A

I want to talk to everybody else.

Speaker A

You're supposed to be here forever.

Speaker A

But now when I'm a grown man, it's afterwards.

Speaker A

It's afterwards because we always talk about.

Speaker A

This is a thankless job, bro.

Speaker A

So many thank yous.

Speaker A

I owe him.

Speaker A

I ain't got nothing to say.

Speaker A

You got to the game, bro.

Speaker A

You was messing me up.

Speaker A

Matter of fact, I missed that shot.

Speaker A

Cause you were doing your sign language.

Speaker C

But just know.

Speaker B

Know.

Speaker C

Just know.

Speaker C

They give you sign language.

Speaker C

Cause you won't listen.

Speaker A

You won't listen, but you would.

Speaker A

But he was forever there.

Speaker A

And it's like I. I can like listening to y'.

Speaker A

All.

Speaker A

I can really play both sides because I remember being a child.

Speaker B

Yeah.

Speaker A

And daddy stepping up and doing everything daddy's supposed to do.

Speaker A

And the reason you don't get that acknowledgment.

Speaker A

I don't care.

Speaker B

Yeah.

Speaker A

You supposed to do that.

Speaker B

Yeah.

Speaker B

That's what I thought you're supposed to do.

Speaker B

And I realized you signed me up for this team.

Speaker A

You.

Speaker A

I know I asked, but you signed me up for it.

Speaker B

You put me here.

Speaker B

God dang it.

Speaker B

I'm.

Speaker B

I'm that good because of you.

Speaker B

And you want me to what?

Speaker A

Yeah.

Speaker B

Yeah.

Speaker B

Hey, look, y'.

Speaker B

All.

Speaker B

Look, y' all know where we at.

Speaker B

This is Dad's friends.

Speaker B

Tequila.

Speaker B

Hey, look, it's time, y'.

Speaker B

All.

Speaker B

It's time again.

Speaker C

It is time.

Speaker B

It's trivia time, Tim.

Speaker C

Tr.

Speaker C

Time.

Speaker B

Trivia time.

Speaker B

You know what time it is?

Speaker B

I'mma go first this time since we brought it back that way.

Speaker B

Way.

Speaker B

Come on, then.

Speaker B

W. You last, Tim.

Speaker B

You gonna go second again.

Speaker B

You in the middle, Tim.

Speaker A

Okay, my bad.

Speaker B

God damn you.

Speaker B

You go first.

Speaker A

Second again.

Speaker B

You know you'll go first next time.

Speaker A

No, you ain't second again.

Speaker A

You went first last time.

Speaker B

Yeah, you did go first.

Speaker B

Hold on, hold on, hold on.

Speaker A

I was about to let you Lie.

Speaker B

Hold on, Tim.

Speaker B

Hold on.

Speaker B

Domin.

Speaker B

Let's go ahead and get it because Tim spilling this right now.

Speaker B

Yeah.

Speaker B

Hey,

Speaker A

Don Falano.

Speaker B

Don Falano.

Speaker B

Hey.

Speaker B

This is Don filano.

Speaker B

Hey.

Speaker B

It's 100 Dear Agave produced in Mexico.

Speaker B

100 proof alcohol.

Speaker B

And I don't know if you can pick this up at your liquor store, but we got it today because of my brother over there.

Speaker B

Don't eat.

Speaker B

Hey, let's go ahead and take a shot to this because Tim is feeling.

Speaker B

He forgot already that he went first.

Speaker A

You forgot with him because you letting the light go.

Speaker B

Hey, to go.

Speaker A

You can go first next time.

Speaker B

Yeah, you can.

Speaker B

I was just trying to save Grace, Tim.

Speaker B

Dominique.

Speaker A

What?

Speaker A

You pick.

Speaker C

You said you picking first.

Speaker B

I was trying to reverse it.

Speaker A

No, you ain't getting out of it.

Speaker B

That's cool.

Speaker B

I'm going to go with last night.

Speaker C

You first.

Speaker B

All right.

Speaker A

Movie.

Speaker B

I'm going go with movie.

Speaker A

All.

Speaker B

Let's go.

Speaker B

Let's get it.

Speaker B

I'm getting clap.

Speaker A

What does the Little Mermaid call forts in her collection?

Speaker A

A, Sneatles.

Speaker A

B, Dingle hoppers.

Speaker B

C, Dingle hoppers.

Speaker A

Wombus.

Speaker B

Yeah.

Speaker B

Dingle hoppers.

Speaker B

B, yeah.

Speaker B

Dingle hopper.

Speaker A

You got.

Speaker B

I know I did.

Speaker B

I know I did.

Speaker B

What my clap said.

Speaker B

Is it?

Speaker B

Yeah,

Speaker A

man.

Speaker C

Remember, these are his cars.

Speaker C

Yes.

Speaker B

Hold on, hold on.

Speaker A

He studied.

Speaker C

Yeah, he's oversteading.

Speaker B

Hey, no, this is a Little Mermaid.

Speaker C

And put it on the top of it.

Speaker A

You.

Speaker A

You grab his.

Speaker B

All right, Tim, go ahead.

Speaker C

It's my turn.

Speaker C

Oh, yeah.

Speaker C

I'm second.

Speaker B

See, that's.

Speaker B

That's that dead fl.

Speaker C

Let's do music then.

Speaker B

All right, Tim.

Speaker B

Go music.

Speaker A

Well, no.

Speaker B

So you won't cheat, bro.

Speaker B

You be cheating, bro.

Speaker B

All right.

Speaker C

Look at Char.

Speaker B

All right.

Speaker B

What is the name of Miley Cyrus?

Speaker B

Father.

Speaker A

A.

Speaker C

How we supposed to know?

Speaker B

M. You know, Robbie.

Speaker A

Okay.

Speaker B

Robbie Ray Stewart.

Speaker B

B, Bobby Ray.

Speaker B

C, Bob.

Speaker B

Billy Ray Cyrus.

Speaker B

That's a joke.

Speaker C

I'm gonna go with A.

Speaker B

You go A.

Speaker B

Okay, Tim.

Speaker B

Okay.

Speaker B

Well, you got the.

Speaker B

No, you got.

Speaker B

Yeah, you got the one.

Speaker B

One stem.

Speaker B

You should have went.

Speaker B

See, you weren't looking.

Speaker C

Thought that was a joke.

Speaker A

When you pull the card up to your face, what is the name?

Speaker A

Her father.

Speaker A

He said, I'mma go.

Speaker A

What'd I do last time?

Speaker A

Let's do sports.

Speaker A

Ain't nobody did sports.

Speaker A

Let's do sports.

Speaker B

I just did sports.

Speaker A

You did sport.

Speaker B

No, I didn't.

Speaker A

Let go sports.

Speaker A

Come on.

Speaker B

All right.

Speaker C

In one sport, is the word love used?

Speaker C

Is it A, golf, B, tennis, C, bowling.

Speaker A

B.

Speaker A

Tennis.

Speaker B

He ain't going to get it.

Speaker A

Tennis.

Speaker A

Yeah.

Speaker A

Them clubs right there.

Speaker A

Look.

Speaker B

Hey.

Speaker A

And the crowd goes crazy.

Speaker B

Y' all hear it?

Speaker B

He had an easy one.

Speaker B

He did get easy.

Speaker B

He did get easy.

Speaker B

I ain't know they used love.

Speaker B

I would got that wrong.

Speaker B

I would have picked B.

Speaker C

Like,

Speaker B

boy.

Speaker A

Let's go, Dominique.

Speaker A

This.

Speaker A

Let's go.

Speaker A

Hey.

Speaker B

Hey.

Speaker A

Tell me on you, Jay.

Speaker A

I pick the last one so we can do.

Speaker A

Why do dads feel like they have to be Superman all the time?

Speaker A

Are we supposed to never allow our children to see us argue?

Speaker A

Do you still tell your kids to stay in a child's place?

Speaker A

How often do you give up on yourself being a parent?

Speaker C

All right, let's go with this one.

Speaker C

Are we supposed to never allow our children to see us argue?

Speaker A

That's a good one.

Speaker A

Tell them I like that.

Speaker A

Come on.

Speaker B

Come on.

Speaker A

I ain't think nobody's gonna pick that one.

Speaker A

Yeah.

Speaker B

Yeah.

Speaker B

So I did it.

Speaker C

So I want you to understand this.

Speaker B

I'm guilty.

Speaker C

So kids see everything that they see in us.

Speaker B

Yeah.

Speaker C

We're both, you know, mom and dad.

Speaker C

And so for me, I try not to.

Speaker B

Yeah.

Speaker C

Show argument to my wife.

Speaker C

Every time we argue, it's always closed doors.

Speaker B

Yep.

Speaker C

Closed doors.

Speaker C

Or like, we.

Speaker C

The kids will not say like this.

Speaker C

The kids know that we arguing.

Speaker C

That's almost how we respond to each other.

Speaker C

Like, we're not even talking to each other.

Speaker C

They kind of know that part.

Speaker B

Yeah.

Speaker C

As far as, like, arguing, talking down.

Speaker C

Because that's what happens when you argue.

Speaker C

You talking down on each other and you're trying to be like, it's all me.

Speaker C

My decision was.

Speaker C

Was the right one, not yours.

Speaker C

So it's almost like we kind of wait.

Speaker C

Well, I'm gonna say like this.

Speaker C

I. I want it then and now, but women don't want that within and now.

Speaker C

They want that time to, like, let it sink in a little bit.

Speaker C

The motion side.

Speaker C

And then.

Speaker C

Because if I say something, then she's gonna say something, and then we're arguing back and forth.

Speaker C

So it's my job to make sure I don't say nothing.

Speaker B

My bad.

Speaker B

Because I can't stand Tim.

Speaker B

I can't stand Tim.

Speaker B

I'm just letting you know, y'.

Speaker A

All.

Speaker B

I can't stand Tim.

Speaker B

He blew it this way.

Speaker B

My bad Tim.

Speaker B

My bad Tim.

Speaker A

Sleeping cocaine.

Speaker B

My bad.

Speaker A

My bad.

Speaker B

God damn.

Speaker A

Everybody stomped in Billy's foot, so.

Speaker B

Oh.

Speaker C

You know what I was saying.

Speaker C

So the biggest thing is I don't want to see my kids.

Speaker C

Does it happen, Witness?

Speaker A

No.

Speaker C

For Me?

Speaker A

No.

Speaker C

Well, I said like this.

Speaker C

There may be a point in time, like, it may.

Speaker C

It may sound like kids don't know.

Speaker C

Oh, they argue.

Speaker B

Yeah.

Speaker C

Because they can see it maybe the way we talk, but then I don't let it go far to where it's just.

Speaker C

We start losing self control because I don't want them to see, like a dark, dark side of me.

Speaker C

Then they're gonna be really scared.

Speaker B

Yeah, it's a dark side.

Speaker C

So I gotta learn how to, like,

Speaker B

Master P,

Speaker C

Just sacrifice the victory.

Speaker C

Even though we need to, like, talk to each other out later because they don't want it then and now.

Speaker B

Yeah, but do you think.

Speaker B

But do you think, like, for them, not for them not seeing that they would not go through it, what's gonna happen?

Speaker C

But I mean, arguments, I must say, like, this argument is going to happen because you got two people trying to think like one.

Speaker A

Right?

Speaker B

Right.

Speaker C

And it's always gonna see there's gonna be discrepancy.

Speaker C

So what they gotta see is learning how to deal with conflict without having to, like, be argumentative and getting out of control.

Speaker B

So.

Speaker A

So for me, my question to you is, do you.

Speaker A

Would you rather your child see that I will argue because it's two minds becoming one?

Speaker B

Yeah.

Speaker A

Or my child sees I can put my pride to the side for my wife and for my kids.

Speaker A

And so y' all don't get to see daddy's anger like that.

Speaker B

So that's good.

Speaker A

What you just explained is you're working on the ladder, but the honesty got truth.

Speaker A

Tim, would you rather my kids see the argument?

Speaker A

Because you need to see that.

Speaker A

Daddy, when I tell you that there's a difference between logic and emotional, let me show you the logical side.

Speaker A

Or is it better for me to use the logic in.

Speaker A

I'mma put the pride to the side and I don't need y' all to see any of this.

Speaker A

I rather y' all see daddy walk away from an argument than Daddy know how to control an argument.

Speaker A

I guess that's a better question.

Speaker C

It's more control.

Speaker C

It's more control, okay?

Speaker C

Because you know, you know your wife and you know your limits.

Speaker C

So you gotta watch what you say, right?

Speaker C

Because you're gonna have certain words, they're gonna be triggered words to get them to go off.

Speaker C

And then when they go off, then you feel like, man, I gotta say something back in return.

Speaker B

Well, well, let's.

Speaker B

Let's flip it, right?

Speaker B

Let's flip it to the point where you is walking away, but the fight still coming, you know, What I'm saying.

Speaker B

So you.

Speaker B

You killed it.

Speaker A

Does your wife follow you?

Speaker A

You gotta ask that?

Speaker A

Because he might not have a wife that follows him.

Speaker A

No.

Speaker C

So when we argue.

Speaker C

Well, it's more.

Speaker C

It's not even a follow.

Speaker C

It's more of a. I don't want to be in the same room with you.

Speaker B

I agree with that.

Speaker B

Because I do that.

Speaker B

I do that too.

Speaker B

That's.

Speaker C

That's where ours is.

Speaker A

So.

Speaker A

And I don't know if you remember the timber when we talked about it.

Speaker A

I'm.

Speaker A

I'm like your wife.

Speaker A

So I get away from you.

Speaker A

I gotta.

Speaker A

You gotta let me.

Speaker B

Yeah.

Speaker A

Sink in, because I'm.

Speaker A

I' ma say something.

Speaker A

I'm gonna hurt your feelings that I can't come back from.

Speaker B

Yeah, I'm hurt your feelings.

Speaker A

Let me go over here and calm down.

Speaker A

I can't deal with it right then and there.

Speaker A

So my brain.

Speaker A

My brain don't process it quick enough.

Speaker A

I almost said.

Speaker A

I didn't mean to call you out your name.

Speaker B

No, but not.

Speaker B

It's real, though.

Speaker B

But that's real.

Speaker B

Seriously.

Speaker B

No, but that's a trigger.

Speaker A

It's not a.

Speaker A

It's not that it's a trigger, but I don't comprehend fast enough forward.

Speaker A

So.

Speaker A

So for me, and I'm not speaking for her, I'm just speaking for me.

Speaker A

I can't speak for nobody else.

Speaker A

Yeah, but for me, I don't comprehend fast enough.

Speaker A

So it is going to trigger me to say the wrong thing if you make me talk about it right now.

Speaker A

I have to.

Speaker A

I have to calm my emotion with the.

Speaker A

The topic of discussion in order for us to talk.

Speaker A

Because if not you, you.

Speaker A

Everything under the sun or everything is your fault.

Speaker A

Nothing is.

Speaker A

I'm not gonna take accountability in this point, but if you let me calm down, I may be able to talk to you and be like, okay, all this was really my fault.

Speaker A

You was emotional, but I'm the one who started this.

Speaker A

If you make me talk right then and there, now it's your fault and you should have left me alone.

Speaker B

See, right there, I ain't gonna lie.

Speaker B

I ain't gonna lie.

Speaker B

I got.

Speaker B

But that's, That's.

Speaker B

That's where I stand.

Speaker B

Like, for me, if it's heated right now and all this coming to me at one time and I can't process it.

Speaker B

You know what?

Speaker B

Time out.

Speaker B

Let me.

Speaker B

Let me walk away real quick and go register what's going on, because I don't want to come.

Speaker B

I don't want to say something that.

Speaker B

That's Going to take it more left than what it really is.

Speaker B

Because I'm processing what you're saying, but it's a few words that you said.

Speaker B

Yeah.

Speaker B

They click for me, like, hold on.

Speaker B

Yeah, you ain't gonna do me like that.

Speaker A

And that, bro.

Speaker A

You know what I'm saying that right there.

Speaker A

You're not gonna be like that, Tim.

Speaker A

And.

Speaker A

And a woman will bring up disrespect, but disrespectful, man, is everything.

Speaker A

So whether we talking about your woman or whether we talking about the kids, disrespect is everything for a man.

Speaker A

So when we're talking, I didn't.

Speaker A

I didn't realize it at the time, but until I grew into an actual relationship, it is your tone with me.

Speaker A

So you can tell me, shut your big head up when we play.

Speaker A

And it's the funniest thing in the world.

Speaker A

Oh, whatever.

Speaker A

But when you mad, man, shut your big head up.

Speaker A

Oh.

Speaker A

Oh, don't.

Speaker A

Fighting words.

Speaker A

Oh, you ready to fight?

Speaker A

Oh, this froggy is jumping.

Speaker A

And so for.

Speaker A

For me, it's.

Speaker A

It's.

Speaker A

I take disrespect to the core.

Speaker A

Especially when you.

Speaker A

When we're.

Speaker A

And I mean, I'm in a heated battle, I'm in a heated discussion.

Speaker A

Disrespect is everything.

Speaker A

I'm looking for disrespect.

Speaker A

Now, where it ain't disrespectful when we playing.

Speaker A

Because I ain't looking for disrespect.

Speaker A

Like, you gotta overly disrespect me for me to see you disrespecting me.

Speaker A

But in the heat of the battle, you said shut up.

Speaker A

That's disrespectful.

Speaker A

Tell me be quiet.

Speaker A

You tell me be quiet.

Speaker A

Hey, tell me.

Speaker A

Tell me to close my mouth.

Speaker A

Don't tell me to be quiet.

Speaker B

But that.

Speaker C

But that's the thing.

Speaker C

When you get in heated discussions, it's because it keeps going back and forth.

Speaker B

Yeah.

Speaker C

With no resolution.

Speaker C

Because you want it your way.

Speaker C

So sometimes you got to stop.

Speaker C

And even as a man, you need to learn how to just take in what's being said and figure out what you should say where it's peaceful and not hurtful.

Speaker C

So there are times where you got to take it in and just listen to it and suck up your pride.

Speaker C

Don't say nothing, because what you about to say is gonna be negative.

Speaker C

And learn what to say to make it peaceful and loving to her.

Speaker B

And.

Speaker A

And so what you speaking on is.

Speaker A

I agree with you, Tim.

Speaker A

I'm forever play devil's advocate here, because it Opens.

Speaker A

Oh, yeah, you gotta start over.

Speaker A

I' ma forever play devil's advocate here because it opens discussion, but I'm with you because it's your job to fall on the sword.

Speaker A

So when I have to push my pride to the side for this conversation to actually happen is what is supposed to happen anyway.

Speaker A

That's what you're supposed to do anyway.

Speaker A

It's not on her to do it.

Speaker A

You're not supposed to be giving her more responsibility.

Speaker A

You're supposed to be taking it on.

Speaker A

So I'm with you.

Speaker A

It's just as a man.

Speaker A

Listen, I understand that I'm supposed to fall on this wood, but if you remember, Tim, when you read the Bible, Jesus knew he was supposed to die for your sins.

Speaker A

He knew he was supposed to go to that cross.

Speaker A

Yep.

Speaker A

But he had a discussion with God before he lived.

Speaker B

You.

Speaker A

You sure you want me to go?

Speaker A

Yeah.

Speaker A

And so for me, I'm not comparing myself to Jesus by no account, but at the same time, Jesus went through the same emotions we did.

Speaker A

And so a lot of times when you're dealing with your woman, especially when it's coming to your kids in this arguing thing, it's hard for me to fall on its sword because I need you to know who I am.

Speaker A

Yeah.

Speaker A

And as a man, it's like, you know who I am about me falling on the sword.

Speaker A

And it's hard for me to get that.

Speaker A

You know what I'm saying?

Speaker B

But my question is this.

Speaker B

It's like I, I, I hear what you're saying now.

Speaker B

Do you hear what I'm saying?

Speaker B

That's the question I have.

Speaker B

Because I' ma always listen to you because of how you feel.

Speaker B

Because us men mostly don't get tap into our feelings to the point where we need to.

Speaker B

Right.

Speaker B

But I want to know, do you understand my point of view?

Speaker B

Because it has to be a common ground that we come to.

Speaker B

Because if you feel this way, and I tell you I feel this way now.

Speaker B

All right, cool.

Speaker B

Do you hear me to, to bring the, the, the argument to a, a neutral site, if that makes sense.

Speaker C

Uhhuh.

Speaker B

You see what I'm saying?

Speaker A

Yeah.

Speaker B

Because now we, we can't sit here and go back and forth.

Speaker B

No, I just want to make sure you hear me because I heard you.

Speaker B

He p me a fool.

Speaker A

I can't see your glass.

Speaker B

Yeah, bro, you ugly.

Speaker C

Well, because it wasn't clear.

Speaker B

No, I ain't trying to tell.

Speaker B

You.

Speaker B

Yeah.

Speaker C

You ain't driving.

Speaker B

Yeah, I'm gonna just drive around the block.

Speaker B

Just, just get out Just drive around the block.

Speaker B

But I'm just saying, like, I just think it has to be a point where, you know, if we are arguing, because the argument is basically a debate, right?

Speaker B

You telling me your point and I gotta hear your point.

Speaker B

Then two, you gotta hear my point.

Speaker B

Then once we both hear each other points, we gotta come to a solution.

Speaker A

But, but this is the thing.

Speaker A

So where you're going is strictly on the relationship with Tim talking about is strictly pertaining to the kids.

Speaker B

Okay?

Speaker A

So you have to get.

Speaker A

So as a man, what you're saying behind closed doors, right?

Speaker A

Yes.

Speaker A

We gotta come to a solution.

Speaker B

We do.

Speaker A

But what Tim talking about what the question.

Speaker A

Talking about is just in front of the kids.

Speaker B

Okay?

Speaker A

Is it important for you to get your point across or is it important

Speaker B

for the safety of the kids?

Speaker B

Okay, okay.

Speaker B

For the safety of the kids.

Speaker B

I ain't going to lie.

Speaker B

It's a 50, 50 for me.

Speaker B

It's a 50, 50, bro.

Speaker A

Hey, I'm getting there.

Speaker A

Like, I'm getting there.

Speaker B

It's a 50, 50, bro.

Speaker B

Because look, hey, hey, hey.

Speaker B

I don't care, you know, like, bro.

Speaker A

And.

Speaker B

And forget them kids right now.

Speaker B

Because this, this is real life.

Speaker B

You know what I'm saying?

Speaker B

Like, I get it.

Speaker B

You know what I'm saying?

Speaker A

And, and, and so for me, where Tim is and what Tim is speaking,

Speaker B

I'm trying to get.

Speaker A

I get it.

Speaker B

I'm trying to get this, and I'm

Speaker A

trying to get to that point, but I'm not there yet.

Speaker B

Because I still.

Speaker A

Emma, I'm still.

Speaker A

I could.

Speaker A

I'm not gonna blame her.

Speaker A

I'm still immature in my way of thinking because I need you to understand where I'm coming from.

Speaker A

And I don't care if kids around.

Speaker A

I don't care if my daddy around.

Speaker A

I don't care who's around.

Speaker A

Especially if I know.

Speaker A

If I know, Tim, that I'm telling you that right there is Carmex.

Speaker A

And everybody in here know when you dealing with the opposite sex, if you say it's car mix, she gonna say it's.

Speaker A

I don't know.

Speaker B

But it's on the table.

Speaker A

It's.

Speaker A

It's.

Speaker A

Whatever it is.

Speaker B

Yeah.

Speaker A

And she's gonna go against you.

Speaker A

And so I'm.

Speaker A

I'm hell bent in my head on proving to you it's car mix instead of doing what Tim is saying.

Speaker A

It's like, I can talk to you about this later.

Speaker A

It's okay.

Speaker B

Yeah, but see, but for me and you know, everybody has a different relationship, right?

Speaker B

But for me is if I close it now, it's gonna be there tomorrow, it's gonna be there next day, it's gonna be there a month from now.

Speaker B

If I don't fix it now.

Speaker B

Because why, if we don't move on from this, we're gonna visit it again, then all of a sudden, it's gonna be most stuff pulled on top of it.

Speaker B

But at the same time, I gotta make sure I hear you out first and hear me out.

Speaker B

I know the kids over there in the corner, probably peeking in, looking in, but at the same time, look, this can't wait.

Speaker B

Hey, we.

Speaker B

We're gonna have to fix this now or we're gonna have to do it tomorrow.

Speaker A

You know that.

Speaker C

There we go.

Speaker A

You know, they say, I'm gonna let you talk.

Speaker A

You know what I'm saying?

Speaker A

The parents say, no kid, J.R. in the thought process.

Speaker A

Them kids.

Speaker B

What?

Speaker B

Yeah, all the way.

Speaker B

I'm.

Speaker B

I'm pissed.

Speaker B

But look, I get.

Speaker B

Lord, look, I got it.

Speaker A

Give us some.

Speaker A

Give us some calls, counsel.

Speaker B

Yeah, give me some grace here.

Speaker B

Give me some.

Speaker B

Give me some grace.

Speaker B

Tim.

Speaker C

The Good Book says love is patient.

Speaker A

It is.

Speaker B

It is.

Speaker B

That's true.

Speaker C

And it doesn't boast, right?

Speaker B

It don't boast at all.

Speaker C

So two things that you said, opposite of that was, I want it now.

Speaker C

That's not patient.

Speaker B

Okay, I got.

Speaker A

Hold on.

Speaker B

No, no.

Speaker A

I had a good book.

Speaker B

Listen, Listen to the book.

Speaker B

But I'm saying if your other.

Speaker B

Your other partner wants it now, she don't want it later.

Speaker B

She has to want it now.

Speaker B

But I choose to walk away.

Speaker B

But if I choose to walk away and come back to revisit it in a calm state, but I'm deciding to walk away again to comfort the.

Speaker B

The situation.

Speaker A

But, but, but, but, but listen, but

Speaker B

listen, you got to hear me out.

Speaker A

I'm hearing.

Speaker A

I'm hearing what you say.

Speaker B

I'm hearing what you.

Speaker B

You saying.

Speaker A

Listen, I'm here.

Speaker A

I'm hearing what you saying.

Speaker B

I'm taking shot.

Speaker A

But, but, but, but really what Tim just said and is, is this is the hard part.

Speaker A

And this hard I want to get and talk about it.

Speaker A

Because the hard part is what you just said, bro.

Speaker A

Forget the second one.

Speaker A

It's the first one.

Speaker B

Yeah.

Speaker A

Love is patience.

Speaker B

It very is, bro.

Speaker A

You know, you can't even pray for patience.

Speaker B

You can't.

Speaker A

So what you talking about right then, bro?

Speaker A

We can have a.

Speaker A

We can have an hour discussion on just that part, cuz, Junior, I ain't going.

Speaker A

We.

Speaker A

I'm not going against you on your rebuttals I'm not telling you.

Speaker A

There's no way you can rebuttal.

Speaker B

Right on.

Speaker A

I'm with you.

Speaker A

I got the rebuttals with you.

Speaker A

But what Tim is speaking on is the truth.

Speaker B

Like that's facts though, bro.

Speaker A

Love is patient.

Speaker A

And right now, be honest with you, I ain't got patience for this.

Speaker B

And this is why people end up

Speaker C

divorced or breaking up.

Speaker B

Yeah.

Speaker C

Because it's like, well, I was good with you before, but now it's like, oh my goodness, I can't stand you.

Speaker A

And so for me, going Tim's way is what people really mean while they say I'm doing it for the kids.

Speaker B

Yeah.

Speaker A

I'm not sticking around for the kids.

Speaker A

I don't argue in front of you because of the kids.

Speaker A

But the hard thing is for me, and I'm learning is I'm sticking around for the kids.

Speaker A

I'm arguing with you in front of the kids.

Speaker A

I could care less about them.

Speaker B

Yeah.

Speaker A

Whether they hear or whether they in a room, they gonna hear me.

Speaker A

If they in their room.

Speaker A

You shut the door.

Speaker A

You gonna hear me in my room.

Speaker B

Right?

Speaker A

Cause I'm gonna be loud.

Speaker A

So even whether you're around or not, I'm not waiting for you to leave for me to get it out.

Speaker A

And it's the, that's why I said the, the hard part of what you're talking about, the love is patient is it don't matter if you the walk away person.

Speaker A

It don't matter if you got to handle it it now person.

Speaker A

It's the understanding of will eventually get it.

Speaker A

I don't want to eventually get it.

Speaker A

I want you to understand what's going on in my mind right now and understand it good.

Speaker A

Now shut your mouth.

Speaker B

But they will, they will if, if

Speaker C

you learn to be patient with it.

Speaker B

Right.

Speaker B

I get that.

Speaker B

I get that 100%.

Speaker C

But if you boast and say I gotta get it now, then it won't.

Speaker C

Then she, then she won't listen or understand.

Speaker A

I ain't boasting cuz I got to get it now.

Speaker A

I'm boasting cuz I'm the man and you need to listen to me.

Speaker B

But, but, but understand that.

Speaker C

So here.

Speaker A

Here it is.

Speaker C

I've gone into argus with my wife and I've learned to take what she's saying and then learn how to like when later, like when it's a day or two.

Speaker C

Cuz we can't go too long.

Speaker B

Right?

Speaker B

Right.

Speaker C

I go and tell her, tell her how I feel.

Speaker B

I ain't going to Lie to.

Speaker B

I can go all day and tell

Speaker C

her how I feel, but now she's at.

Speaker C

To the point where she receives in it and then she starts to understand.

Speaker B

But no, no, but look.

Speaker B

Okay, cool.

Speaker B

I get what you just said, right?

Speaker B

So now you at the point of.

Speaker B

Now you trying to get her to see what how you feel.

Speaker A

Right?

Speaker A

Right.

Speaker B

Okay.

Speaker B

But now you at the point, you're trying to see how she feel.

Speaker B

How you feel, but it's still not registering how you feel.

Speaker B

But the whole time the argument still is going to come back around.

Speaker B

You're gonna have plenty of arguments after that.

Speaker B

Right?

Speaker B

Yeah, but at the end of the day it's two sides.

Speaker B

It's your feelings and it's mine.

Speaker A

But, but see, but so, so, so Pete, look.

Speaker A

And I'm with that we did go off subject, y'.

Speaker A

All.

Speaker B

No, no, no, no, no.

Speaker A

It's still about the kids.

Speaker B

Okay?

Speaker A

It's still about the kids because until you get the.

Speaker A

Until we.

Speaker A

I want you to feel like I'm coming at you.

Speaker A

Tim is only doing it better than us.

Speaker A

But until you get the understanding of it don't even matter if we behind closed doors.

Speaker A

I don't have to get my point across ever.

Speaker A

But I'mma get my point across.

Speaker A

And that is the, the, the patient love part because it's when you think about.

Speaker A

Forget your wife.

Speaker B

Yeah.

Speaker A

Forget her.

Speaker B

Forget her.

Speaker A

Think about your relationship with God.

Speaker B

Yeah.

Speaker B

100%.

Speaker A

So at the, at the point where you start thinking about your relationship with God and remember that he is the most patient person ever man on the God cuz to deal with me.

Speaker A

That's what I'm saying.

Speaker A

Forget your woman moment.

Speaker A

Think about how.

Speaker A

How God has to deal with you.

Speaker C

Yeah.

Speaker A

So when you think about God, he

Speaker B

gave me the color.

Speaker A

You heard me.

Speaker A

Like he's still waiting on me.

Speaker A

So.

Speaker A

So he waiting on me there.

Speaker A

And.

Speaker A

And I'm gonna go back into to being Dominic.

Speaker A

But I got Tim Brawler Biblical.

Speaker A

We're gonna go in the Bible.

Speaker B

That's what we do here.

Speaker A

So.

Speaker A

So when.

Speaker A

When I look at my relationship with God, you got to remember that your wife is literally looking at you in the same manner.

Speaker B

Right.

Speaker A

So.

Speaker A

Right.

Speaker A

The same way you want God to forever forgive you for being wrong.

Speaker C

Say it again.

Speaker A

Your wife is the exact same.

Speaker A

So the same way you look at God and Jr. Can.

Speaker A

Can confidently look at God and say I'm the man.

Speaker B

Right.

Speaker A

Because you forgave me.

Speaker B

Yeah.

Speaker A

I'm the man.

Speaker B

Yeah.

Speaker A

I'm whole.

Speaker A

I got your woman looks at you in the same Manner.

Speaker A

You said I'm confidently the man knowing Junior got a whole, whole lot of things wrong with him.

Speaker A

I did a whole lot of things wrong.

Speaker A

But because God is on my side, I'm good.

Speaker A

Your woman looked at you the same way.

Speaker A

The difference between this relationship and that relationship is I'm still trying to think like God, baby, I.

Speaker B

That's what I'm saying.

Speaker B

So it's like I'm trying to get.

Speaker B

I know for a fact.

Speaker B

I'm just speaking for me.

Speaker B

Yeah, I know for a fact.

Speaker B

I ain't perfect, right?

Speaker B

So as my.

Speaker B

As my self getting better to the point of having a argument, right?

Speaker B

Should I say debate?

Speaker B

But my thing is too, I have to hear you, right?

Speaker B

In the argument, I have to hear you.

Speaker B

Yeah.

Speaker B

So if I don't hear you, that mean for a fact, I'm not listening to you.

Speaker B

If I don't hear you.

Speaker B

But at the same time, if I'm talking about me too, you have to hear me.

Speaker B

So.

Speaker B

But no, you have to.

Speaker B

Nah, you have to.

Speaker B

Domini.

Speaker A

They not.

Speaker B

But no, no, it's not the point.

Speaker B

They need or not.

Speaker A

No.

Speaker B

Be next week, right?

Speaker A

So it's gonna be two weeks down the line.

Speaker A

But you have to wait for that.

Speaker B

But that's cool.

Speaker B

So if I decided to be like, look, you know what?

Speaker B

This ain't getting nowhere.

Speaker B

I'm just gonna walk away.

Speaker B

It ain't getting nowhere.

Speaker B

Yeah, but they keep going, right?

Speaker B

But in my mind, I haven't left this spot.

Speaker B

If we come back to visit the argument.

Speaker B

I ain't forgot about it.

Speaker B

July 21st.

Speaker B

The.

Speaker B

At 6:00pm yeah, we on June 2nd.

Speaker B

Yeah, we got to go back and visit June.

Speaker B

July 1st or July 22nd.

Speaker B

Whatever I just said.

Speaker B

But at the same time, we gotta start there because why, baby, I ain't forgot about this.

Speaker B

We have to consult this because we can't move forward if we ain't talked about this.

Speaker B

I get what we haven't in June, but shoot, what about July or January?

Speaker B

Because we gotta.

Speaker B

We gotta be able to come to the.

Speaker B

A sacred ground to the point where for effect.

Speaker B

You understand me?

Speaker B

I understand you.

Speaker B

But then too, I'm going back to the kids.

Speaker B

Even though we are having an argument of the kids who's saying it's unhealthy to the point where my kids don't know we're arguing about, you know, him having soccer practice, him having golf practice, him having this xyz.

Speaker A

So.

Speaker A

So.

Speaker A

And that's what I was about to bring up because as a child, that's

Speaker C

the weed yeah, that's.

Speaker C

That's what happens.

Speaker B

Yes, that's what it is.

Speaker A

But think.

Speaker A

Think about.

Speaker B

Yeah, we think about.

Speaker A

Think about back to your childhood.

Speaker A

Think about back to your childhood.

Speaker A

In your childhood, you wanted everything hunky dory.

Speaker A

You wanted the rainbows, the glare, the.

Speaker A

The good things in life.

Speaker A

Because the reason.

Speaker A

And I'm not saying the child wanted that.

Speaker A

Your parents wanted.

Speaker A

You wanted that for you because they knew once you hit 18, 19, 21, 25, and you actually experience the world, ain't no more glitter.

Speaker A

Ain't no more rainbow shooting straight.

Speaker A

You.

Speaker A

You can be driving on 35 and see a rainbow and still don't feel like it's a rainbow in your life.

Speaker B

That's true.

Speaker A

So as a grown person, I know ain't no rainbows.

Speaker A

So as a kid, I want you to, to experience all the rainbows and glitter.

Speaker A

So you said something and just speaking on this matter, you said, is that not healthy for a child?

Speaker A

For the most part.

Speaker A

Nah.

Speaker A

I'm not supposed to be screaming at the top of my, my lungs and my kids can hear me in their bedroom with they do and my do.

Speaker A

But I had to make my point proving to this woman, to my woman.

Speaker B

Yeah.

Speaker A

But I'm not supposed to be doing it that way.

Speaker B

Yeah.

Speaker A

And that's why.

Speaker A

And that's, that's why I said I know the correct thing.

Speaker B

And I'm correcting.

Speaker B

I agree with that.

Speaker B

But I do.

Speaker A

It's hard for me to get the, the, the idea because I, When I hear Junior talk about it, I know correct answer.

Speaker A

But when I start talking, I feel just like Gerald, feel like, bruh, I still got something to say.

Speaker A

And you got to come to the idea of your point.

Speaker A

Don't matter right now because of who you are.

Speaker B

I get that about who you are.

Speaker A

And it just, it's just hard as a, as a day.

Speaker A

But that's what, like, I want my kids to see who I am.

Speaker B

But, but for all the dads out there, like, we, we actually, like, we go through this stuff every day.

Speaker B

Right.

Speaker B

So.

Speaker B

And I'm just speaking for me.

Speaker B

So if, If I'm going all day and the only person I can know for a fact and I can count on that has my best interest in heart is my old lady.

Speaker B

Right?

Speaker B

But if I'm talking to you and you're not hearing me, if I got to revisit this conversation next week, week before last or whatever, but we can't move on unless we fix this, because why?

Speaker B

I. I still have something to say from the Last argument that we had.

Speaker B

Not saying.

Speaker B

Not saying.

Speaker B

It's a bad argument.

Speaker B

I'm not saying it's a bad.

Speaker B

It's a ugly argument.

Speaker B

I'm just saying for our healthy relationship, we have to stop.

Speaker B

Start from where I didn't get a chance to speak my piece on what was going on in that situation at that time.

Speaker B

Yes.

Speaker B

Has a lot of stuff accumulated over time.

Speaker B

Yes, it has.

Speaker B

I'm not taking that away from that.

Speaker B

But at the same time, look, I can't move on because of this.

Speaker B

You see what I'm saying?

Speaker B

So before you get in, Pastor Tim.

Speaker A

Huh?

Speaker B

But before we go on.

Speaker B

It's the simple fact that I know.

Speaker B

I know for a fact I ain't perfect at all.

Speaker B

I'm still learning.

Speaker B

Right.

Speaker B

But at the same time, I just want to make sure we're both on the same page.

Speaker B

Your feelings and my feelings we both have to be hearing together.

Speaker B

Because at the end of the day, only person I count on is you.

Speaker B

I don't care about.

Speaker B

On, you know, everybody else in the world.

Speaker B

I can care less about it.

Speaker B

Anything in this household.

Speaker B

That's all I care about.

Speaker B

Right?

Speaker B

Right.

Speaker B

Right.

Speaker A

What he just said he don't count on us.

Speaker A

So he really ain't talk noise about me being late since he don't count on me no way.

Speaker A

He only counted his wife.

Speaker A

His wife show up here on top.

Speaker B

Forget them.

Speaker B

Forget them.

Speaker B

He ain't show up on.

Speaker C

So I'm going wrap it up with this.

Speaker A

All right?

Speaker B

Go ahead, Tim.

Speaker C

I'm wrap it up with this.

Speaker C

I need you understand this.

Speaker B

All right?

Speaker C

We have to make sure when we argue that it's healthy for the kids.

Speaker C

Cuz they don't understand.

Speaker C

They're still immature.

Speaker B

I agree.

Speaker C

100 so I know you want your point across.

Speaker A

I get that.

Speaker B

100 but they.

Speaker C

I always hear when.

Speaker C

When parents argue and kids are listening, whether they know it or not, it scares them.

Speaker C

Because what they don't want to happen is when is both of them splitting up.

Speaker A

True.

Speaker C

So that's why if we argue, it's got to be in closed doors and we're.

Speaker C

It's controllable.

Speaker C

So the part that they see or hear, they shouldn't see it.

Speaker A

I mean they.

Speaker C

I mean sometimes they may see it, but they need to see to where it's where both parties are controlled and they learn how to like understand each other.

Speaker C

To where we're not just going to lose control.

Speaker C

And then I got to run out the house because it's not.

Speaker B

But sometimes it's inedible.

Speaker B

Though Tim.

Speaker A

No, it.

Speaker A

But, but, but, but what you speaking on is where we're at.

Speaker A

What Tim is speaking on is where we're supposed to get to.

Speaker A

So it's going to forever be a back and forth with us with what he's talking about because we're over here and Tim is here.

Speaker A

And even though Tim and a man of God is wanting to get better, he's not telling you that he can't get better at where he.

Speaker A

He's at.

Speaker A

He's further along than where we are.

Speaker A

So how the.

Speaker A

How this show started with I might be on chapter 5, chapter 7

Speaker B

and

Speaker A

JR trying to skip up to chapter 16 and we not realize.

Speaker A

No, I still got to go through chapter eight, chapter nine, chapter ten.

Speaker A

And so Tim, I need you to understand, bro, I ain't got the chapter

Speaker B

eight and I'm still on three.

Speaker A

You trying to tell me about you.

Speaker A

You getting ready to go to chapter six, 17.

Speaker A

So what.

Speaker A

What you speaking on is real life.

Speaker A

But what Tim is speaking on is real life as well.

Speaker A

It's the truth of.

Speaker A

Junior, I need to pull you up to here.

Speaker A

Yeah Dominique, I need to pull you up to here because this is what your kids are actually supposed to be seeing.

Speaker A

But this is what your woman is actually supposed to be going through.

Speaker B

But then too Dominique, it's.

Speaker B

It's a lot of dads out there that you know in every aspect of what we all going through.

Speaker B

You know what I'm saying?

Speaker B

So for all the dads, like we're, we're.

Speaker B

We started this show because we wanted to experience.

Speaker B

Share our experiences with everybody.

Speaker B

When we are right.

Speaker B

We're.

Speaker B

We're not all on the same level.

Speaker A

No.

Speaker A

Cuz, cuz.

Speaker A

Cuz somebody listening right now is chapter two.

Speaker A

I'm listening to y' all talk.

Speaker A

Listening to y' all talk.

Speaker A

Junior, I listen to you talk.

Speaker A

If you want chapter seven, I want chapter four.

Speaker A

Cuz I'm still, I'm still learning.

Speaker A

I'm still learning.

Speaker A

I'm trying, still trying to get there.

Speaker A

And it's not that I envy be Tim chapter 16.

Speaker B

Yeah, I do.

Speaker A

But.

Speaker A

But I sure want to get there.

Speaker B

Like trying to get there.

Speaker A

You sound like your house.

Speaker B

Good.

Speaker A

So you.

Speaker A

So you mean every day you look to the left and you see your wife and you good.

Speaker A

I don't feel that way every day, Tim.

Speaker C

Seven days a week always going to be that way.

Speaker B

No, but, but, but, but, but how

Speaker A

you breaking it down?

Speaker A

So.

Speaker A

So you got to remember when you were chapter two.

Speaker A

Yeah, you got to remember when you were Chapter six.

Speaker B

Six.

Speaker A

Chapter seven, Chapter eight.

Speaker A

Yeah, it wasn't like that every day.

Speaker B

It wasn't.

Speaker A

But you saw it different.

Speaker A

So chapter.

Speaker A

When Tim was in chapter eight and I saw Myra, I liked you seven days a week.

Speaker A

You didn't know two of them days, baby, you was on my last nerve.

Speaker B

Yeah, I couldn't stand you in chapter 16.

Speaker A

You don't even talk like that.

Speaker A

I don't even talk like Myra getting on my last nerve.

Speaker A

You already knew that.

Speaker A

Let's keep going forward.

Speaker A

I ain't at that point.

Speaker A

I need you to know you getting on my last nerve.

Speaker C

Okay, but I need you to understand.

Speaker C

But y' all think I'm on chapter 16.

Speaker C

But what.

Speaker C

What if I told you I got to 16 because I skipped 8 through 15, but then I gotta go back to 2 because I didn't.

Speaker C

Maybe I didn't reach.

Speaker A

That's what we talking about.

Speaker A

Because what you speaking on right now?

Speaker A

Yeah, you got the light, you got the answers.

Speaker A

I don't.

Speaker B

Yeah.

Speaker A

So every dad out there, this is why we talk.

Speaker A

Because I didn't know Tim was on chapter 16.

Speaker A

I didn't know Tim had to revisit chapter three.

Speaker A

Cause I'm struggling with chapter three right now.

Speaker A

Yeah, I didn't know that.

Speaker A

I thought when you got to chapter 16, that's because you already had these chapters down.

Speaker A

I didn't know.

Speaker A

So what you just told me, Tim, is me being on chapter four.

Speaker A

I'm gonna have to revisit this again.

Speaker C

Yeah, but being the man.

Speaker B

Go ahead.

Speaker C

You got to control it all.

Speaker B

Okay?

Speaker C

You got to control it.

Speaker B

Yeah.

Speaker C

Because when.

Speaker C

When situation happens, it's all you.

Speaker A

It's all you fall back on you.

Speaker C

It fall all back on you.

Speaker B

But the thing is too though, but doesn't everything else fall fall back on us?

Speaker B

It doesn't matter where we are in life, does it still fall back on us?

Speaker A

But that.

Speaker A

But hold on, hold on, hold on, hold on, hold on.

Speaker A

What do you mean by what you're saying before I speak on it?

Speaker B

Okay.

Speaker B

I'm saying this even though we did have the argument is we did have this, we did had everything prior to that.

Speaker B

Everything still fall back on us regardless of that.

Speaker B

So what I'm trying to say is it doesn't matter if we are right, if we are wrong, if everything is going great, everything is going bad, everything stills fall back on us.

Speaker A

Facts and that.

Speaker A

And that.

Speaker A

That is why eventually I'mma get on Tim's level.

Speaker A

I haven't visited chapter 16 me at all.

Speaker A

I ain't went past chapter 10.

Speaker B

I think I did visit 16, but then too, I, I, I kind of went back to like five.

Speaker A

Oh, no.

Speaker A

I thought you was about to say, you know what, you know, you first open the book in all the pages.

Speaker A

I saw it.

Speaker A

I didn't read the title, though.

Speaker B

Yeah, like, so I was there.

Speaker B

But I, I went back.

Speaker A

I didn't do it.

Speaker A

But, but, but for, for me.

Speaker A

I'm glad you said what you just said, because the truth of the matter is all of us have it.

Speaker A

Tomorrow when we have the podcast, Dominic might have the correct answers on kids drinking water.

Speaker A

And Tim wasn't doing his kids like that.

Speaker A

He blowing your smoke away while I'm talking.

Speaker A

I can't stop.

Speaker A

I can't.

Speaker B

I was trying to do that one on purpose.

Speaker B

I was trying to do that one on purpose.

Speaker A

Yeah, he blowing it like this.

Speaker B

But look, but look, but look, before we go to the next segment or whatever we going to.

Speaker B

Nick, My thing is this, though.

Speaker B

So as, as men, right?

Speaker B

As fathers, like, every segment that we have is prior to this, like most of everything we do is it's responding on us, for us, our attitudes and how we carry ourselves as men, then to how we raise our kids.

Speaker A

Right.

Speaker B

But at the same time, we don't get compliments, we don't get the appreciation that we need then to.

Speaker B

When it comes down to us trying to express how we feel about certain things is pushed to the side and has to be revisited.

Speaker B

But when does it come to a time where we're able to sit here and have a conversation about us?

Speaker A

Never.

Speaker B

Because.

Speaker B

Because it has to be.

Speaker B

It has to be a time where we talk about us.

Speaker B

Because why we the one carrying everything on our shoulders.

Speaker B

We don't want to falling on the swords that that's supposed to be fell on, but at the same time, nobody talking about how it hurts for us to fall on that sword.

Speaker A

But, but we can't.

Speaker A

And so that was the funny thing.

Speaker A

That's why I kept questioning y' all early on with it, because listening to Tim talk, listen to JR Talk, that's just a part of your everyday life.

Speaker B

That's true.

Speaker A

So, and I, I know it's a part of your everyday life.

Speaker A

Tim agreed with what you were saying.

Speaker A

When we get together, we do what?

Speaker B

That's all we do.

Speaker A

We came over here to watch the game, we came over here to drink, we came over here to podcast, we came over here to do whatever.

Speaker A

Yeah, we're, we didn't come over here to do is talk about feelings, Tim.

Speaker A

When I Walked in, Tim was talking.

Speaker A

He wouldn't open it up and tell me about his feelings.

Speaker B

Right.

Speaker A

What I've been going through this week.

Speaker A

I asked him, and we.

Speaker A

We started the show asking two or three times, tim, what's going on with you?

Speaker A

He made his joke, then he came back and told me about his schedule with his kids.

Speaker B

That's true.

Speaker A

He ain't tell me nothing about him and his feelings.

Speaker A

That's true.

Speaker A

When Junior, for the little bit you talked about before you switched the up and start asking questions.

Speaker A

I ain't hear about your feelings, bro.

Speaker A

And so we don't.

Speaker A

We don't have that space.

Speaker A

But the.

Speaker A

The.

Speaker A

But the space we do have is if you going through something, you having a brother you can talk to.

Speaker B

Yeah.

Speaker A

I'm not having no.

Speaker A

No pity party with you.

Speaker A

We can't have it.

Speaker A

I'm not.

Speaker A

I'm not.

Speaker A

I can't allow myself to have a pity party with you.

Speaker A

But if.

Speaker A

Tim, you going through something, J.

Speaker A

You going through something, bro.

Speaker A

Pick up the phone and call me.

Speaker A

We getting together, bro.

Speaker A

Talk to me.

Speaker A

Pull me to the side.

Speaker A

What's up?

Speaker B

But do you think this.

Speaker B

Do you think that's a norm with.

Speaker B

With just us as men?

Speaker B

Yeah, Because I ain't going to lie.

Speaker B

Have I ever called you on the phone, ask you how you doing?

Speaker B

Nah, nah.

Speaker B

We call.

Speaker B

We joke.

Speaker B

Tim, have I ever called you on the phone like, tim, how you doing, bro?

Speaker A

Nope.

Speaker B

But I think that's.

Speaker B

I think that's the.

Speaker A

I think start calling y'.

Speaker A

All, make sure y' all bathe at night.

Speaker A

You take your show.

Speaker B

Hey, you put your lotion on, bro.

Speaker A

Dang.

Speaker B

You put lotion.

Speaker B

You put.

Speaker B

You put that lotion on.

Speaker B

I know you ashy, but I think that's for us to.

Speaker B

Because I believe Iron Shop is on, right?

Speaker B

Because I might not be where Dominique.

Speaker B

I might not be where Tim's at, but at the same time, you don't know where I'm at because we don't talk about it.

Speaker B

And I think that's one reason why the.

Speaker B

The show was started, because we have men out there that, you know, they had a level and they don't know whatever they on.

Speaker B

And then two, they don't have a person or somebody to call and really just vent to because, Dominique, I don't remember last time I've been to you, Tim.

Speaker B

I think I've been this to you a little bit earlier, but it was a brief.

Speaker B

But we don't vent really to me

Speaker A

two weeks ago, man.

Speaker B

What I've been To you about.

Speaker A

You said she didn't know how to close the cheeks, right?

Speaker B

Man, you the one called me saying, look, I gotta.

Speaker B

I gotta only fans and this how you hold cheeks.

Speaker B

But.

Speaker B

But we.

Speaker B

We really don't.

Speaker B

I push it to the side, but we really don't, as men have a safe space to call one another.

Speaker A

But we.

Speaker A

But we do.

Speaker A

So this is.

Speaker A

This is the thing for.

Speaker A

For men, I think we get lost in hearing.

Speaker A

Your woman do it constantly.

Speaker A

Your woman call her cousins, her friends, her mama.

Speaker B

That's fact.

Speaker A

Her daddy.

Speaker B

That is true.

Speaker A

Every time she on the phone, she's letting out her feelings.

Speaker A

And like, as a man, I had to.

Speaker A

To understand what letting out your feelings is.

Speaker A

Yeah, cuz I'm listening.

Speaker B

Whatever.

Speaker B

Whatever, Tim.

Speaker B

Whatever.

Speaker B

Tim.

Speaker A

I ain't never.

Speaker A

I ain't never dealt with it.

Speaker A

I ain't never dealt with it.

Speaker A

So I didn't know me venting the junior is what she's doing that she letting out your feelings.

Speaker A

But since I never labeled it letting

Speaker B

out feelings, I just call it vent about vented.

Speaker A

So I didn't know you were venting.

Speaker A

She just letting it out.

Speaker A

So I'm not telling you that you're wrong or that he was wrong.

Speaker A

I'm just venting about what I'm going through.

Speaker B

But, Tim, have you ever just called somebody and just vent it?

Speaker C

Not really.

Speaker B

But see, I just think that's.

Speaker B

I think for us as men, I don't think that's healthy.

Speaker A

For us, it is not really.

Speaker C

I think my venting goes to God.

Speaker B

Okay.

Speaker C

I tell him.

Speaker B

Okay.

Speaker B

All right.

Speaker A

You vent to God.

Speaker A

But you still got to talk to him.

Speaker A

Humans, you still got to talk to somebody every day.

Speaker A

You still got to talk to a man to get that out.

Speaker B

But.

Speaker B

But the only reason why I said that to him, because I might have been in your shoes before.

Speaker B

Might have been there then too.

Speaker B

I don't know nothing about it because me and you never talk about it, right?

Speaker B

Same thing with you, Dominique.

Speaker B

Like, I might have been in your shoes, and you passed me already, and you've been there already, and I'm bringing up to you.

Speaker B

I can't stand it you, bro.

Speaker B

I can't grow way over there and this dude.

Speaker B

But I'm just saying, like, we never have.

Speaker B

And I've been knowing you.

Speaker B

Matter of fact, I've been knowing you less than I've been knowing you.

Speaker B

You've been knowing Dominique longer than I've been knowing both of y' all together.

Speaker B

But I'm just saying, for as men, we have never Sit here and be like, you know what, Tim?

Speaker B

I'm going through xyz, bro, whatever it is.

Speaker B

I never called your phone about that.

Speaker B

But do you think that's just a man trait, or you.

Speaker B

Do you think that's just us as just, you know, going through life?

Speaker B

You know what I'm saying?

Speaker A

If it goes into the.

Speaker A

The first topic that I brought in of men always feeling like we got to be Superman, we forever feel like we got to be Superman.

Speaker A

We forever pull on this facade that we.

Speaker A

We got it all together when we don't.

Speaker A

So I came over here today and didn't happen today, but just keep the conversation going.

Speaker A

Case and played bad today in her volleyball tournament.

Speaker A

I'm yelling, but she won't listen to me while she on the court.

Speaker A

I get home, and Amber's yelling at me because I didn't take out the trash, and I didn't.

Speaker A

I didn't clean up my side of the room.

Speaker A

And so I'm coming home, and I'm dealing with that.

Speaker A

And then I show up here at the podcast, and I'm a little bit late, but I show up here to the podcast.

Speaker B

We gonna stop him right there.

Speaker B

A little late.

Speaker A

This what me don't open up to me right here.

Speaker A

But it's.

Speaker A

And I show up late.

Speaker A

But when I get here and we start talking, we just start handling things.

Speaker A

Like me like you, Tim.

Speaker A

Talking about me being late.

Speaker B

Yeah.

Speaker A

You talking to outside the door.

Speaker A

I ain't even out the car.

Speaker B

Good.

Speaker A

You talking noise outside.

Speaker A

And we start going through our day or whatever.

Speaker A

And I didn't take.

Speaker A

Bro, it's been a long day.

Speaker A

It's been a bad day.

Speaker B

Yeah.

Speaker A

Everything was going wrong today.

Speaker A

But you get around the guys, and for me, I think for men, it's more about the positive reinforcement rather than the.

Speaker A

Vincent.

Speaker B

Yeah.

Speaker B

About to say the same thing.

Speaker B

I think it's more fellowship than.

Speaker B

Than the.

Speaker B

Than the negative stuff that goes out in the world.

Speaker A

And if I know I can fellowship with you, and I also know, like, I can call Tim and say, bro, I'm going through something.

Speaker B

Yeah.

Speaker A

Like this.

Speaker A

Real life something.

Speaker A

This ain't something I can just deal with them on.

Speaker A

I need to talk to somebody, but it's the fellowship that let me know.

Speaker A

Okay.

Speaker A

I can talk to you.

Speaker B

Yeah.

Speaker B

Yeah.

Speaker B

Heck, yeah.

Speaker B

Hey, look, y'.

Speaker B

All.

Speaker B

Y' all know we at barber shop.

Speaker A

Jim.

Speaker A

Ready, Jerry.

Speaker B

Hey, look.

Speaker B

Not born.

Speaker B

Hey, look, let's go ahead and take this shot.

Speaker B

Y' all know what time it is?

Speaker C

Yes, sir.

Speaker B

No need.

Speaker B

Show signal, bro.

Speaker B

Let's go.

Speaker A

Let's get ready to rumble.

Speaker B

One more time.

Speaker B

One more time.

Speaker A

Let's get ready to rumble.

Speaker B

Yeah.

Speaker B

Let's go, Dominic.

Speaker B

What you got, Dominique?

Speaker B

Y' all know what time it is?

Speaker B

What time is it, Dominique?

Speaker A

Let's get ready to rumble.

Speaker B

All right.

Speaker B

Let's get it.

Speaker A

Let's get it.

Speaker C

Let's go.

Speaker B

What you got?

Speaker A

It's some topics, but we ain't.

Speaker A

We're not gonna skip over it.

Speaker A

Yeah.

Speaker B

Come on.

Speaker B

I already know where you're going.

Speaker A

Number one topic.

Speaker B

Yeah.

Speaker A

We're gonna bring up the white man.

Speaker A

Yeah.

Speaker B

Cooper flag.

Speaker B

There you go, Tim.

Speaker A

He's the youngest man ever 19 to score 49.

Speaker B

Yeah.

Speaker A

In the game.

Speaker B

Yeah.

Speaker B

Cooper flag.

Speaker A

Over.

Speaker A

The over five straight games.

Speaker B

Cooper flag.

Speaker A

His lowest point total was 31 points.

Speaker B

Cooper flag.

Speaker A

He's a rookie.

Speaker A

That's not.

Speaker A

He just turned 19, Tim.

Speaker B

Cooper flag.

Speaker A

He just turned 19.

Speaker A

I want to talk about Cooper flag.

Speaker A

Let's go, Dominique.

Speaker A

I don't feel like the world is hyping up Cooper flag enough.

Speaker A

Hey, they're doing more than what Lucas did his rookie season.

Speaker A

And they.

Speaker A

They praise him as the great white hope before the All Star game.

Speaker B

Hold on, Dominique.

Speaker B

Have you been watching Cooper flag?

Speaker B

Yeah.

Speaker B

Okay, how do you feel about Cooper flag right now?

Speaker C

He's really like.

Speaker C

Like something.

Speaker B

Like, is he him?

Speaker C

Wow.

Speaker C

That dude is something else.

Speaker B

Yeah, I agree.

Speaker B

You know, I'm the one that wanted to draft him.

Speaker C

Here it is.

Speaker C

Is he gonna keep them same stats when Kyrie come?

Speaker B

But you.

Speaker B

Hold on, Tim.

Speaker A

Hold on.

Speaker B

We talked about that last time.

Speaker A

That's a good question.

Speaker C

Because it's like he's by himself right now.

Speaker C

Cuz everyone is just like, kind of like role players.

Speaker C

But there's no really dominant player on the Mavericks.

Speaker B

But I.

Speaker B

Okay, I gotta give you this.

Speaker C

Scoring wise.

Speaker A

Go ahead.

Speaker B

I gotta give you this.

Speaker A

Go ahead.

Speaker B

Do you want him to continue while Kyrie is coming back?

Speaker B

Only reason why I said that is because, look, we know Kyrie injured, right?

Speaker B

We know what Kyrie can do, but he not gonna have the ball in his hand.

Speaker B

So he's not being the creator that he normally is.

Speaker A

So.

Speaker A

So the reason I said it's a good question is they was talking about this on the radio like a week or two ago.

Speaker A

Everybody has that question when Kyrie comes back, does that limit what Cooper does?

Speaker A

No, it limit what Nigy and everybody else is doing.

Speaker A

Cooper drop his 30 and Naji be right there with him with 28.

Speaker B

But Naji ain't starting, though.

Speaker A

No, no, but, but, but Pete but so the, the.

Speaker A

The 28 that.

Speaker A

That Naja have or PJ Marshall have is with Kyrie have have.

Speaker A

You're not taking away from Coop.

Speaker A

Matter of fact, when Kyrie finally.

Speaker A

I don't think they're gonna bring it back to season.

Speaker A

I really think they're gonna wait till next season.

Speaker A

But when Kyrie finally does come back, that ain't gonna do nothing but open up things for Cooper because.

Speaker A

Oh, you can't double team them at all.

Speaker B

No.

Speaker B

00 we can't do.

Speaker A

We got a double team Kyrie, we don't double team Coop.

Speaker A

So it ain't gonna do number open him up like, bro, just go shine.

Speaker B

But that.

Speaker B

But that.

Speaker B

But as a coach, you have to look at it as.

Speaker B

Look, I know Kyrie ain't healthy.

Speaker A

Shoot.

Speaker B

But this guy over here on his wings, we might have to slow him down.

Speaker B

So you might have to double coup because Kyrie come back off his first game, everybody gonna play him a one on one.

Speaker B

Bro, you just coming back off of, you know, ACL chair.

Speaker B

Like you're not trying to get him the benefit of that.

Speaker B

I'm not taking that away from Kyrie.

Speaker B

That's my guy.

Speaker A

Oh, talking about Cooper flair.

Speaker A

We're just opening up to what the Maverick's about to do with two.

Speaker A

First one drag P. Bro, the Maverick's about to be sick.

Speaker A

But who you gonna get?

Speaker A

It don't matter what I read, man.

Speaker B

Inside.

Speaker B

Big man.

Speaker C

We gotta have a dog.

Speaker C

Big man.

Speaker A

So I'm with Tim.

Speaker A

I want a four.

Speaker A

So you bring Coup back out to the wing.

Speaker B

But he's already on the three.

Speaker A

He the point four.

Speaker A

Right now he playing the four.

Speaker A

When they got rid of AD, he went to the four.

Speaker B

I'm trying to see.

Speaker A

Because if you get a four, put him on the wing.

Speaker B

But look, you got Kyrie, who you putting at two.

Speaker A

You don't Christy.

Speaker B

Okay, then you putting at three.

Speaker A

Cool.

Speaker B

Yeah, he the three.

Speaker B

He not playing the F. No, he playing the four.

Speaker C

Right, so you need strong four.

Speaker A

I'm saying.

Speaker C

I'm saying five.

Speaker B

You mean.

Speaker A

I like our fives too.

Speaker B

Yeah, I do too.

Speaker C

I like that game.

Speaker B

Lot of game back here.

Speaker C

Okay, yeah, I got you.

Speaker C

But there was one game that I saw Gaffford two points.

Speaker A

But see the reason.

Speaker A

No, but see the reason I like that.

Speaker B

The reason I like.

Speaker C

And not 10 rebounds.

Speaker A

But see the reason I tell my

Speaker C

big man 10, 10 every time.

Speaker A

But the reason I like Gafford is

Speaker C

I like Gaffer too.

Speaker A

But the reason I like Gafford is Gafford is a more athletic Max Cleer.

Speaker A

So remember how Max Cleer got his name.

Speaker A

It was l getting him open.

Speaker A

We ain't got nobody that's getting g for the opening.

Speaker A

Oops.

Speaker B

But look.

Speaker A

But look.

Speaker B

Domin score.

Speaker A

When Kyrie get back, you going to see them dunks again.

Speaker B

But he said 10.

Speaker B

10.

Speaker B

As a big man, right?

Speaker B

You got to at least get 10.

Speaker B

Rebound.

Speaker B

I agree with that.

Speaker A

He had six.

Speaker A

Six to eight right now.

Speaker B

Six to eight.

Speaker A

He your back.

Speaker A

He's not your starter.

Speaker A

He's your backup.

Speaker B

That's what he's supposed to be.

Speaker B

He's starting right now.

Speaker A

Now Lively your starter.

Speaker B

He ain't playing.

Speaker A

So you want.

Speaker A

You want your backup to come in?

Speaker B

You better come on in

Speaker C

some good minutes.

Speaker B

A lot of minutes.

Speaker B

Don't get 10.

Speaker A

10.

Speaker B

He playing a lot of minutes right now.

Speaker A

So what.

Speaker A

What?

Speaker A

This what I want.

Speaker A

Y'.

Speaker A

All.

Speaker A

Y. Y' all really sound like Jerry Jones.

Speaker A

I'mma pay you like a backup ceiling.

Speaker A

But when the.

Speaker A

When the starter get hurt, I want you to get started.

Speaker B

Contract.

Speaker B

Huh?

Speaker B

Lobby is on.

Speaker B

Rookie contract.

Speaker A

No, he not.

Speaker A

Oh, Lively.

Speaker B

That's what I'm saying.

Speaker A

Not Gafford.

Speaker B

That's what I'm saying.

Speaker A

Lively hurt.

Speaker B

Yeah.

Speaker A

Y' all complaining on gaffer?

Speaker B

Yeah, we playing.

Speaker B

But you know you're getting all of the minutes right now, bro.

Speaker B

Give me 10 and 10.

Speaker A

Yeah.

Speaker C

Every game.

Speaker A

Yeah.

Speaker B

Yeah, yeah.

Speaker A

Tripping.

Speaker A

I just want y' all know when Kyrie get back, okay?

Speaker A

When they.

Speaker A

They dread, they.

Speaker A

And it really don't matter if they draft the two or four, and then

Speaker B

you don't need a two.

Speaker A

You need a 204.

Speaker A

You can have Christian coming off the bench, and you can trade or let go of Clay.

Speaker B

You're gonna.

Speaker B

I let go.

Speaker B

Whatever.

Speaker B

Tim can't stand you.

Speaker B

I ain't gonna lie.

Speaker B

I. I like Clay, but I. I ain't gonna lie.

Speaker A

If.

Speaker A

If so your top 10 p. If you got a dominant 2.

Speaker A

There ain't no dominant 4.

Speaker A

You got a dominant 2.

Speaker A

I go get the dominant 2.

Speaker B

Okay.

Speaker A

To go along with Kyrie and Cooper, and then we got plenty of money to go get a four.

Speaker A

They can just play a four.

Speaker A

Four where you shoot the three and get rebounds.

Speaker B

Oh, you getting a.

Speaker B

Are you getting a veteran four or you getting a four?

Speaker B

That's putting up.

Speaker B

I'm going say 15 and five.

Speaker A

I. I don't need your stats.

Speaker A

I need you down there to be a big man.

Speaker A

If you open, hit the shot, I need you to get rebounds.

Speaker A

I need you playing defense.

Speaker B

What I need 15 and 5.

Speaker A

Now you ain't getting 15, cuz.

Speaker A

You got Kyrie a nice draft pick at number two.

Speaker A

At three, I just need you to get rebounds and blocks.

Speaker A

I don't need you to worry about points unless it's a lot.

Speaker B

So you got right now on the squad, you got Gafford playing the five.

Speaker B

Well, I'm going say live, let's say the new season.

Speaker B

No, you got Lottery playing the five.

Speaker B

You got Kyrie playing a one.

Speaker A

Yeah.

Speaker B

Okay, you got a question mark on the two.

Speaker B

We know Cooper playing a three.

Speaker B

Then you got a question mark on the.

Speaker B

On the.

Speaker B

On the four.

Speaker B

So in the draft, you going to get a two or four.

Speaker B

Right.

Speaker B

So in your main pick, you're going to get a what, a 204?

Speaker B

No, no, your main pick.

Speaker B

What you really looking for

Speaker A

in a top team?

Speaker A

I want somebody who can put the.

Speaker A

The ball in the hole, so probably a two.

Speaker B

So you're going for a two.

Speaker A

Yeah.

Speaker B

So that means you're leaving that four open.

Speaker B

So you putting powder.

Speaker A

This is the great thing.

Speaker A

This is why I brought up the topic.

Speaker A

Forgot we also got the number 20 pick.

Speaker B

We also got the back.

Speaker A

The back.

Speaker B

The back end of the first round still had Naj.

Speaker B

Naj play the F. He played.

Speaker A

He played three and the four.

Speaker A

I want him on the wing too.

Speaker B

Okay, you can play.

Speaker A

I want a post player that can get down there and bang like Naji is like Cooper flag playing for.

Speaker A

You can get down there, but I need somebody that can handle a big body and get rebounds and blocks.

Speaker B

So these your starters?

Speaker B

Yeah.

Speaker B

Okay, cool.

Speaker B

See, that's what y' all worrying about.

Speaker B

I'm worried about the bench.

Speaker A

Bench.

Speaker B

When Cooper sit down.

Speaker B

When Kyrie sit down, you got a bench.

Speaker B

Who?

Speaker A

PJ Washington.

Speaker A

Okay, you got pj, Naji Marshall.

Speaker B

No, no, no.

Speaker A

You just said two is a question mark.

Speaker B

Four is a question.

Speaker B

Okay, but who's your questions?

Speaker B

Well, you got to put somebody there.

Speaker A

Okay, let's say 2 and 4.

Speaker A

We're gonna use it with the two draft picks we got.

Speaker B

Okay, let's say.

Speaker A

So you got Naji Marshall.

Speaker B

They better be better than Najee.

Speaker A

They.

Speaker A

They ain't got to be better than.

Speaker B

They got to be better than that.

Speaker A

No, they don't.

Speaker B

Now, is he getting to drop 25?

Speaker A

I don't.

Speaker A

I don't need you to get more than rebounds and blocks.

Speaker A

So when you sit on the bench, Cooper flagging whatever 40s, Naji can come in and shoot for that 25.

Speaker A

So you got Naji, PJ Brandon.

Speaker A

What's what's the big man that's been hurt the whole time?

Speaker A

We got.

Speaker A

No, we got him last year at the G League.

Speaker A

At the G league.

Speaker A

He was a seven fight footer.

Speaker A

He came, we got.

Speaker B

I think I know you.

Speaker B

I think I know you talk.

Speaker B

He played a couple games.

Speaker B

Anyway you talking about though, he can play.

Speaker A

He can play the 4 85.

Speaker A

He, he, he, he dark skin.

Speaker B

Yeah, I know he talking about.

Speaker B

I know he.

Speaker A

He either seven foot, almost seven foot.

Speaker A

And then you got.

Speaker A

When he say Max Christie.

Speaker A

So that's five if you got.

Speaker A

If you got a ten man rotation.

Speaker B

Yeah, but that's good.

Speaker B

But, but shoot Jason kid on l. That.

Speaker A

But that's the whole point.

Speaker A

If Jason kid do nine.

Speaker A

But I have the capability of doing a 10, 11, 12 man lineup.

Speaker B

Yeah, I.

Speaker B

For me, I look at.

Speaker B

Okay, cool, but look.

Speaker B

So look, you got start, start, start starting five.

Speaker A

Kyrie.

Speaker B

You got Kyrie co. End of discussion.

Speaker A

You don't need nothing else.

Speaker B

No coup at the three.

Speaker B

Name.

Speaker A

Name another team in the NBA that has more than two.

Speaker A

Two superstars doing something.

Speaker B

But I'm saying this out of them too.

Speaker B

Let's just say they give you 60.

Speaker A

So name another team that's doing more than that.

Speaker B

I'm just saying they give you 60, that's 60 points.

Speaker C

Why?

Speaker A

Why he hating like hard?

Speaker A

I ain't hating.

Speaker B

Ain't nobody so.

Speaker B

He always trying to just pull me to the left.

Speaker B

I'm just trying to see everything out.

Speaker B

So you got two.

Speaker B

Two players that might give you 60, 50 points a game.

Speaker B

Okay, cool.

Speaker B

You got a center.

Speaker B

Lively.

Speaker B

I'm gonna put lively at the 5 because I won't gaffer come off the bench.

Speaker B

Okay, Lively at the five.

Speaker B

Okay, cool.

Speaker B

That leaves you to three and the four.

Speaker B

Who.

Speaker B

I'm gonna put three in the phone right now.

Speaker A

Three is cool.

Speaker B

No, I got.

Speaker B

Okay, you're three.

Speaker B

I mean the two in the foe.

Speaker B

Yeah, so I got a shooting guard, then I got a.

Speaker B

A Fogo, a power forward.

Speaker C

So Chrissy, the two.

Speaker B

But you can't put Christian too, because he's not a starter.

Speaker B

Like, you can't put Christian 2.

Speaker B

He ain't.

Speaker B

I'm not saying he's not good, bro.

Speaker B

I'm not.

Speaker B

I can't.

Speaker B

I can't say that, bro.

Speaker B

He's not.

Speaker B

I can't say that.

Speaker A

You sound like Jeremy with the guy.

Speaker B

Come on.

Speaker B

No, look, if you can't go draft

Speaker A

the top 10, I'm gonna go get it.

Speaker A

He can start.

Speaker B

No, he coming off the bench, bro.

Speaker B

You know for a fact he coming out the bench.

Speaker B

He's not starting.

Speaker A

Can I.

Speaker A

Can I tell you something, bro?

Speaker B

He's not starting, bro.

Speaker A

You know, max Christie is 21.

Speaker B

I get that.

Speaker A

So he's still supposed to be in college.

Speaker B

Okay, I get this.

Speaker B

So he can start then why he not starting now?

Speaker A

He is starting.

Speaker B

No, he's not.

Speaker A

He is.

Speaker B

No.

Speaker B

History is coming off the bench.

Speaker A

My boy, Christine, Clay Thompson, go back, Christy starts.

Speaker B

No, bro.

Speaker B

Christian back and forth will start.

Speaker A

Bro, you tripping.

Speaker B

No, I'm gonna look it up right now while we got the phone.

Speaker B

Look up and see if I'm wrong.

Speaker A

No,

Speaker B

for the Maverick when they move

Speaker A

coupe to the four, they did start the Coop.

Speaker A

I mean, Clay has started some game.

Speaker A

The three.

Speaker B

Do Christie start for the Mavericks.

Speaker A

You should ask how many games has he started?

Speaker B

Yeah, I'll do that.

Speaker B

I'm do that.

Speaker B

As long as he's got many games.

Speaker B

Does Christie start for the mouths?

Speaker A

If it's more than two?

Speaker A

He started me, man.

Speaker B

That's two.

Speaker B

You said two games.

Speaker B

Became a starter for the Dallas became.

Speaker B

He was off the bench.

Speaker B

So who before him?

Speaker A

Tim.

Speaker B

No, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no.

Speaker B

Who was before him?

Speaker A

No, no, listen.

Speaker B

No, it don't matter.

Speaker A

Listen, listen.

Speaker B

No, it wasn't Clay.

Speaker B

It could have been Clay.

Speaker A

But listen, listen, listen.

Speaker A

It don't matter who started before him.

Speaker A

The argument with that we had right now is either they gonna draft the two or Christy can start at the two.

Speaker B

Okay, cool.

Speaker B

So if y' all looking for a two guard, what?

Speaker B

Christy gonna go to the bench, to the bit?

Speaker B

That's what I'm saying, bro.

Speaker B

Okay.

Speaker A

Tim wasn't doing number helping you out because you was making your starting line up now.

Speaker B

No, I asked y'.

Speaker A

All.

Speaker B

If we ain't drafting y', all, we ain't drafted yet.

Speaker B

No, I asked you.

Speaker A

I just told you what I would hope for after drink.

Speaker B

No, I said if y' all getting something out to draft, what you gonna get?

Speaker B

You got a two and you gotta vote.

Speaker B

Cool.

Speaker B

You said a good two.

Speaker B

I mean a good fold.

Speaker B

Okay, cool.

Speaker B

Who you gonna put it to?

Speaker B

You said Christy.

Speaker B

Why?

Speaker A

Because he's a good.

Speaker B

No, I don't think he's shooting.

Speaker B

I don't think he's that good shooting guard that you need dominant if you dominate.

Speaker A

Hold on, Listen, listen, listen.

Speaker A

I want you to see the team

Speaker B

you putting out there, all right?

Speaker A

Kyrie's at the one.

Speaker B

I'm listening.

Speaker A

Cooper flags at the three.

Speaker A

That means you already have 60.

Speaker A

And in your mind, you saying the four is gonna be good.

Speaker B

So let's.

Speaker A

Let's say 80.

Speaker A

You got 80 points through three starters.

Speaker A

I don't need you to do nothing else.

Speaker B

Okay.

Speaker B

Who.

Speaker B

Who was he suffering for before?

Speaker A

Who?

Speaker A

Chrissy?

Speaker B

Yeah.

Speaker B

Who's he seven for?

Speaker A

We'll say Clay Thompson.

Speaker B

No, I think Clay was playing like the.

Speaker B

The two.

Speaker A

No, he was playing how they started the season off.

Speaker A

You remember, Cooper Flag was the one, d' Angelo Russell was the two.

Speaker A

And then you had somebody like Najee

Speaker B

or Clay playing the three because he wasn't there.

Speaker B

He was subbing for one of them guys.

Speaker A

No, I'm with you, but what I'm talking about is moving forward.

Speaker A

So Naji can come off the bench.

Speaker A

Najee and Christy can start or come off the bench.

Speaker B

Yeah, I believe I.

Speaker B

To me, I believe Naja can start.

Speaker A

So we got a, bro.

Speaker A

We got a squad.

Speaker B

I ain't L. I ain't taking away from my squad.

Speaker A

We gota.

Speaker A

We gotta.

Speaker A

If they draft right.

Speaker A

If they draft right.

Speaker A

Cuz.

Speaker B

Copa flag they got.

Speaker A

You remember what I used to say?

Speaker A

I'm gonna start saying it again.

Speaker A

Tim, I just want you to know something.

Speaker B

You like white men.

Speaker A

I like white men.

Speaker A

Cooper Flag is amaz, bro.

Speaker A

You know what?

Speaker A

You know, you know what?

Speaker A

Make it even would make it even worse.

Speaker A

He really ain't even got no moves, bro.

Speaker A

He can handle the rock, but he don't have moves.

Speaker B

But now he big enough to get to the cup, so he.

Speaker A

I'm just more athletic.

Speaker B

He big enough to get to the

Speaker A

cup, so his things are working on

Speaker C

trying to give it to Gaffer like Luca did.

Speaker A

Yeah, it working.

Speaker A

That's where kind of get quiet because

Speaker C

it's like when Cooper had the ball

Speaker B

driving 30, 40 motors.

Speaker B

Yeah, he's a grabbing.

Speaker C

He keep the ball.

Speaker B

I agree with that.

Speaker B

I do.

Speaker C

I think he started using that more

Speaker B

of a. I do agree with that.

Speaker B

But that.

Speaker B

But that.

Speaker B

But that never been a part of his game.

Speaker B

Who cool him passing the balls and Duke.

Speaker A

No, listen, the thing about cool, and this is why I like him different than Luca.

Speaker A

Everything they've ever talked about with him, he gets better at.

Speaker A

So if you remember at the start of the season, if you remember at the start of his Duke season, it's the same thing.

Speaker A

They had a problem with him shooting threes.

Speaker A

He got better with it.

Speaker A

The same thing they had a problem with him doing out being the offensive man and becoming a defensive guy as well.

Speaker A

Did that dude.

Speaker B

But he was doing that.

Speaker A

So.

Speaker A

But.

Speaker A

But what I'm saying is with the Mavericks, that's What the talk is now of his passing.

Speaker A

Now trust me, he gonna put that Coop is that type of player.

Speaker B

No, I'm not taking nothing away from Cool like Cooper's the overall like Hooper like.

Speaker B

But my thing is when he don't have that ball in his hand.

Speaker B

Now you're giving it to Kyrie.

Speaker B

Kyrie gonna get his points, right?

Speaker B

All right, Cool.

Speaker B

Now Kyrie Coop, you the second option.

Speaker B

I get that.

Speaker B

But when they come down to that third option, you know for a fact you probably got lively at the five or Gaffin at the five.

Speaker B

That four position right here.

Speaker B

Who you looking to score?

Speaker B

Oh, we forgot we got what you call it from, from the Bucks.

Speaker A

Oh, he gone.

Speaker A

He going season.

Speaker A

We talking about next season.

Speaker A

They not pay.

Speaker A

They not going to pay him.

Speaker B

I think they going to pay him.

Speaker A

They.

Speaker B

They going to pay him.

Speaker B

Cuz Jason kid coached him.

Speaker B

I think he gonna pay him.

Speaker A

That's, that's great.

Speaker A

He.

Speaker A

He gone, bro.

Speaker B

I think they gonna pay.

Speaker A

Don't waste your money on him, bro.

Speaker B

I think they gonna pay him.

Speaker A

Oh, don't waste your money.

Speaker B

He's a defensive player.

Speaker B

He can play defense.

Speaker A

That's great.

Speaker C

Milton.

Speaker B

Milton.

Speaker B

Yeah.

Speaker B

I just think he's a, he can leave.

Speaker B

He's a, he's a standup guy from the Mavericks.

Speaker A

That, it's a whole lot of standup guys.

Speaker A

That's at the league.

Speaker A

Yeah.

Speaker B

After leave.

Speaker B

I'm saying right now, end of the

Speaker A

season, he gone, bro.

Speaker B

I don't think he going to leave.

Speaker B

He gone.

Speaker A

You can't count on him.

Speaker A

If he take a, A, a major pay cut, then yeah, if he just trying to look to stay with a team.

Speaker B

Yeah, but I, but what's his contract right now?

Speaker A

He, he mean he getting money, bro.

Speaker B

You think so?

Speaker A

He.

Speaker A

I know.

Speaker B

What's his name?

Speaker B

What's his name?

Speaker A

Chris Middleton.

Speaker A

K H R I S. Hold on, stop.

Speaker B

Chris Middleton.

Speaker B

All right, let's see his contract.

Speaker B

Contract right now.

Speaker B

Three years, 102 million.

Speaker B

He already got a 130, 93 guaranteed.

Speaker A

No, this it.

Speaker A

This is last season.

Speaker B

You think so?

Speaker A

No, I'm saying on that contract, this is last season.

Speaker A

That's why they got it.

Speaker B

I'm saying for him to look at for the squad that we got.

Speaker B

He don't take a fake up.

Speaker B

What's the.

Speaker A

That's 30 million, bro.

Speaker A

I'm not paying you 30 million a year.

Speaker B

This it right here.

Speaker A

I know you said 100 million for three years.

Speaker A

That's 30 million a year.

Speaker B

No, no, no, no, no, no.

Speaker B

He guaranteed already 93.

Speaker A

That's what I'm saying.

Speaker A

This is, this is the last year.

Speaker A

Yeah, I'm not paying him that much, bro.

Speaker B

7 million.

Speaker A

But listen, this is last year of that country.

Speaker A

I'm giving him between 2 and 5 million.

Speaker A

You don't want that.

Speaker A

You can leave.

Speaker B

Okay?

Speaker B

Guarantee t. He not, he not going to play over.

Speaker A

Naji.

Speaker A

He not going to play over.

Speaker A

He just coming off the bench.

Speaker B

He is coming off the bench.

Speaker A

Look, if you can pick this, look this little bitty money, then.

Speaker A

Yeah, N. Bro.

Speaker A

Maverick.

Speaker A

Maverick Stack.

Speaker B

But I'm.

Speaker B

I'm looking at now, so you got.

Speaker A

Yeah, keep talking about the Maverick.

Speaker A

I want to talk about the Cowboy.

Speaker B

I want to talk about them.

Speaker B

Well, they, they straight.

Speaker A

No, they not.

Speaker B

But the defensive coordinators right now, they straight.

Speaker A

They're straight because they got black coaches.

Speaker B

He's right.

Speaker B

You coming in there, ain't playing no games.

Speaker A

Did you.

Speaker A

Have you seen this list of coaches?

Speaker B

They all black, Tim.

Speaker A

Every coach he brought it in is black.

Speaker B

Every last one of them.

Speaker A

The, the cornerback coach the secondary, the secondary coordinator.

Speaker A

Everybody's black hitting hard.

Speaker A

The linebackers coach the line.

Speaker A

Everybody's black hitting hard too.

Speaker A

On the defense, Jerry Jones would be

Speaker B

rolling up in his green, hitting hard.

Speaker B

Tim on the, on the Cowboy, they hit hard.

Speaker A

No, Jared Maverick straight, bro.

Speaker B

Nah, I'm not taking nothing away from him.

Speaker B

I just think they just need.

Speaker B

For me, I just think that that two guard is gonna be.

Speaker B

It's gonna be the Wisconsin.

Speaker A

All you need is a player that can play.

Speaker A

You already got Kyrie.

Speaker A

That's why I said name another team in the NBA that has more than two superstars on the court.

Speaker B

But I'm gonna ask you this, I'm gonna ask you this before I go to that.

Speaker B

Let's just say we have the number one pick right now and we're going out to two go.

Speaker B

Then you want him to be already developed or you rather develop him throughout the season.

Speaker A

I want, I want Cooper Flag again, not, not under the white man.

Speaker A

I want a dude that is hungry for basketball.

Speaker A

So if you saw Cooper Flag start the season out, everything about his game said he was a.

Speaker A

A flop and he just got better over the course of time.

Speaker A

And now when we get to allstar break, Cooper Flag look like, bro, he a veteran.

Speaker A

That's his, that's his team.

Speaker A

So I want another rookie that goes through that process.

Speaker A

Like I came in, if I'm gonna attack without messing up or not, I'm gonna just keep attacking.

Speaker B

But now you're looking at, now next year, you got this squad they're looking as a.

Speaker B

A ring potential team.

Speaker B

And you bring in this rookie to fill in this big old spot.

Speaker A

Ain't no big old spot.

Speaker A

You got Kyrie mess up.

Speaker A

Cooper Flag is coming back and he has a whole year behind him.

Speaker A

And then you got the veteran Kyrie.

Speaker A

I don't need you to come in and do anything.

Speaker A

If you drop 20, great.

Speaker A

If you have games like Cooper Flag where it's six or eight points.

Speaker B

But it's the same stuff.

Speaker B

But it's the same stuff we said about CO last year.

Speaker A

No, we didn't.

Speaker B

Yes, we.

Speaker B

I said it for sure.

Speaker A

You didn't think the Maver was going to get R this year.

Speaker B

No.

Speaker B

I'm just saying I didn't need him to come in and do what he did at Duke.

Speaker A

Yeah.

Speaker B

I just need you to come in and score.

Speaker A

Yeah.

Speaker A

Just play your game.

Speaker B

So I'm asking this guy right here,

Speaker A

just play your game.

Speaker B

Play your game.

Speaker A

Just play your game.

Speaker A

Because Kyrie and Cooper take everything else.

Speaker B

I get that.

Speaker B

We don't need you to score.

Speaker A

No, we don't.

Speaker B

Yeah, we do.

Speaker A

No, we don't.

Speaker B

You.

Speaker B

You expect me.

Speaker A

Don't.

Speaker A

Don't worry about it.

Speaker A

Because I don't like to listen when he gets Tim.

Speaker A

Forget the NBA.

Speaker A

When you look around basketball, can you name a team that has more than two superstars at a time?

Speaker C

I can't think of one right now.

Speaker A

I can't think of one.

Speaker A

I don't know what J.R. talking about.

Speaker A

You guys spread out now and Kyrie coming at you.

Speaker A

That means two right there.

Speaker C

That's all you need.

Speaker A

I don't count on the other three to do anything.

Speaker B

Yeah.

Speaker A

When you open, make the shot.

Speaker A

I don't.

Speaker A

I don't know what he talking about.

Speaker C

I don't either.

Speaker A

I don't get him.

Speaker C

I mean, you can't have three.

Speaker C

That's too many.

Speaker A

I don't understand it, man.

Speaker A

It don't make sense.

Speaker A

It ain't.

Speaker A

It ain't adding up.

Speaker A

Nope.

Speaker A

Kyrie shoot the ball.

Speaker B

Don't he.

Speaker C

Yeah, Shoot the ball.

Speaker A

Cooper flag shoot the ball.

Speaker A

Don't.

Speaker C

It does the same.

Speaker C

Yeah.

Speaker A

It's only one ball in basketball.

Speaker C

Have to learn how to learn how to work together right now.

Speaker A

Yeah.

Speaker A

So I got.

Speaker A

I already got a shirt with these two players.

Speaker A

And then you gonna ask me to share with three more?

Speaker A

It ain't enough sharing in the world.

Speaker C

Right.

Speaker C

They need to do 50 to 60 again for sure.

Speaker C

Everybody else need to do their part.

Speaker A

And I, I.

Speaker C

They gonna have a bench too.

Speaker A

And I see that as a very much possibility.

Speaker A

That's that.

Speaker A

That's what I'm trying to tell him.

Speaker A

I don't know what he looking at Kyrie and Coop as your team.

Speaker A

We build around that.

Speaker A

That's a nice team to build around.

Speaker C

Yeah, it is.

Speaker A

That's a nice team to build around.

Speaker C

They got a squad right now.

Speaker C

They growing.

Speaker A

Yeah.

Speaker C

Because even that.

Speaker C

What's that one dude, Bagley.

Speaker A

Yeah.

Speaker C

If they start learning his game, I

Speaker A

think he's gonna be gone too.

Speaker A

The only one.

Speaker A

The only one that stays under contract from that trade is the one that ain't playing A.J.

Speaker A

johnson.

Speaker A

So everybody else is off country.

Speaker A

So we got.

Speaker C

We got.

Speaker A

We got 70 million that's gonna be free in the off season.

Speaker A

So you got two.

Speaker A

Two Dread Peaks and 70 million in free ca.

Speaker A

Space.

Speaker A

We just ain't got no big time free agent.

Speaker A

Yeah, that's the only problem.

Speaker A

They said Luke.

Speaker A

Luke is a free agent after this season, but he probably ain't gonna come back to the mar.

Speaker C

What if he does?

Speaker C

I don't think so.

Speaker C

Cuz we got Cooper flag.

Speaker A

But I don't.

Speaker A

And I was about to say I don't want Luca coming back because we got cool flag.

Speaker A

I think he.

Speaker A

He hinders Cooper flag game.

Speaker A

I think he hold.

Speaker A

He holding back.

Speaker A

Just like J.R. hold us back with this whole conversation.

Speaker A

We could have been talking about the Cowboys by now, Tim, but J up on the.

Speaker B

Hey, man, look, you didn't want to talk about.

Speaker B

You ain't want to talk about.

Speaker B

He didn't want to talk about the Cowboys.

Speaker C

I don't want to talk about no Cowboys every year.

Speaker B

Yeah, I agree with you, Tim.

Speaker B

I just want to see what this defensive coordinator gonna do at least.

Speaker B

Yeah, that's it.

Speaker C

Defense just messed it up.

Speaker B

But was it.

Speaker B

Yeah.

Speaker B

What you talking about?

Speaker B

30 plus every game.

Speaker C

Defense in there just giving up.

Speaker B

30, right?

Speaker C

It's 35.

Speaker C

We're gonna.

Speaker C

We're gonna act like it's 30, 20, 25.

Speaker A

So maybe.

Speaker A

Maybe I'm talking to dudes who never played sports before.

Speaker A

My thing is when you play the game, y' all.

Speaker B

Coach, before we have.

Speaker A

If your team is losing 102 to 101, are you saying that your offense did their job or are you telling your offense to go make a bucket to win this game?

Speaker B

I'm just saying it's two sides to.

Speaker A

No, no, no, no, no, no, no,

Speaker B

no, no, no, no, no.

Speaker A

There is no two.

Speaker A

There is no two sides because when you're playing the game and we're down, you're counting on Your offense to score more.

Speaker A

So my.

Speaker A

My thing is this.

Speaker A

Here you go.

Speaker A

This is my thing.

Speaker B

Here you go.

Speaker A

When you look at.

Speaker A

When you looked at the Super Bowl,

Speaker B

Tim,

Speaker A

the team that played against Seattle

Speaker C

to do score, to score, they struggle.

Speaker B

Struggle.

Speaker A

But what.

Speaker C

Because what Seattle defense.

Speaker A

But what I'm looking for is you to score.

Speaker A

I'm not looking for my defense to step up if my offense can't score.

Speaker A

So you can't tell me Dak stepped up.

Speaker A

But when I look at they team gonna score a touchdown.

Speaker A

But hold on, Deck is kicking a field goal.

Speaker B

But hold on.

Speaker B

They scold they.

Speaker B

They will kick four field goals, bro.

Speaker B

How many temps four field goals before they scored a touchdown?

Speaker A

Facts.

Speaker B

So that mean they defense did the best they could to hold on.

Speaker A

And what I'm looking for and what I'm looking for is the offense to step up and do more than what their offense is doing.

Speaker A

If their offense scores a touchdown, what is my offense supposed to do?

Speaker B

They first go touch them.

Speaker A

Exactly.

Speaker B

Exactly Right.

Speaker A

And Dak Prescott.

Speaker B

All right, cool.

Speaker A

Gets you field goals.

Speaker B

All right, now, okay, let's go back to the Super Bowl.

Speaker B

So if they get a field goal.

Speaker B

Right.

Speaker B

Dang.

Speaker B

Matter of fact, I'm gonna just do this number right here.

Speaker B

And this is.

Speaker B

Look, when the guy said this on the commentator, it kind of blew my mind.

Speaker B

And he was like, they haven't got inside the the 40 of their own 40 the whole game.

Speaker B

That means they haven't got a field goal range within 5, 6 possessions of the football.

Speaker B

So I'm saying that it's only so much that one side can do.

Speaker B

I only can stop them for so long.

Speaker B

I only can hold them for so long.

Speaker B

I only can get into field gone range the best way I can.

Speaker A

Let me, let me.

Speaker A

Let me show y' all how.

Speaker B

Y', all.

Speaker A

Y'.

Speaker A

All.

Speaker A

Y' all full of.

Speaker B

Here you go with it.

Speaker A

So do y' all know how the greatest show on earth lost?

Speaker A

Because they completely complained about their defense.

Speaker A

So what I'm getting at is if your offense is doing what they're supposed to do, they can make a good run in the playoffs.

Speaker A

So for y' all to tell me that the offense is doing what they're supposed to do in our defense and we missed them.

Speaker A

Not only did we miss the playoffs, we have one of the top drag picks that lets me know that my

Speaker B

offense, Sam Darnold,

Speaker A

super bowl champion.

Speaker B

You know why they won?

Speaker B

The defense.

Speaker A

That's why they won.

Speaker B

Yeah.

Speaker A

Defense, it wasn't a running back.

Speaker A

They weren't scoring.

Speaker A

Field goals.

Speaker A

It wasn't a running back running for 100 yards.

Speaker B

Right?

Speaker B

He ran for 100 yards to get the field go range, right?

Speaker B

No, no, no.

Speaker A

But, but listen, listen.

Speaker B

Four times,

Speaker A

four field goals, bro.

Speaker A

But that's my whole point.

Speaker A

You know how the Seahawks won the Super Bowl?

Speaker A

By their offense.

Speaker A

Offense outscoring the other teams.

Speaker B

Right?

Speaker A

Offense.

Speaker B

Right.

Speaker B

Yes.

Speaker A

You want your defense to make stops,

Speaker C

but if the defense.

Speaker A

You know why I want my defense to make stops?

Speaker A

Because my offense may only keep.

Speaker A

Hold on.

Speaker A

Watch this.

Speaker A

I'm gonna make the point.

Speaker B

I'm make the point.

Speaker A

My offense may only keep field goals, but if their offense starts scoring touchdowns, what do I need my offense to do?

Speaker A

Exactly what Seattle did.

Speaker A

So while you're talking about Sam Donald.

Speaker A

And what did he do?

Speaker A

He scored touchdown.

Speaker B

Can I ask you a question?

Speaker C

How many touchdowns?

Speaker B

Hold on.

Speaker B

Can I ask you a question?

Speaker B

What wins championship?

Speaker C

Team.

Speaker B

No, no, no, don't go there.

Speaker B

No, don't go there.

Speaker B

What wins championship?

Speaker A

Defense.

Speaker B

Defense.

Speaker B

Exactly.

Speaker B

Bro.

Speaker B

They couldn't get inside their own field.

Speaker A

That's great.

Speaker A

But what we started talking about was the Cowboys.

Speaker B

Right.

Speaker A

And defense may win championship.

Speaker B

It does.

Speaker A

But offense can get you to the playoffs.

Speaker B

It can.

Speaker A

And so why we didn't make it off.

Speaker A

Oh, my.

Speaker A

Jesus.

Speaker B

You watch the game.

Speaker A

Oh, my.

Speaker B

You watch the game.

Speaker B

You watch the game.

Speaker A

Score.

Speaker A

They score.

Speaker B

Okay, we just watched the Super Bowl.

Speaker A

Scoring it all.

Speaker B

Let me ask you a question.

Speaker B

When we.

Speaker B

When we played the Giants and we went to overtime, who fought?

Speaker B

Was it Alfie?

Speaker B

No, dude.

Speaker B

What?

Speaker B

What?

Speaker B

Dominic.

Speaker B

So you telling me.

Speaker B

So you telling me that go out there and score 35 and we give up 35.

Speaker A

Let me.

Speaker B

Who fault is it?

Speaker A

Offense?

Speaker A

Let me show you why.

Speaker B

Okay, I want to hear this real quick.

Speaker A

Tim Jr.

Speaker A

When y'.

Speaker A

All.

Speaker A

When y' all watch.

Speaker A

When y' all thought about and got ready to watch the Giants game, did you think the Giants could stay with the Cowboys?

Speaker A

No.

Speaker A

So in your mind, what you really and truly are speaking right now in y' all minds right now is the Giants score, 35.

Speaker A

Dak scores 35.

Speaker A

Dak did his job.

Speaker A

Why in the world could the Giants stick with you, Dak Prescott, Mr. Top 10 Quarterback.

Speaker A

No, y' all gonna stop.

Speaker B

I'm not.

Speaker A

I'm not saying that our defense is not supposed to step up, but we're not gonna give this grace to this office like we were just doing.

Speaker B

I'm not saying that.

Speaker B

Get the.

Speaker C

The winning.

Speaker C

Like we scored.

Speaker C

This is it.

Speaker B

And then the defense gave it up.

Speaker B

Right?

Speaker B

Exactly.

Speaker A

Why are they even Close to you, D. Prescott.

Speaker B

No, no, no, no, no.

Speaker B

Hold on, hold on.

Speaker A

You just said.

Speaker B

Why are they close?

Speaker B

Dak did his job.

Speaker A

He didn't.

Speaker B

On the offensive end.

Speaker A

He didn't, bro.

Speaker B

On the offensive end.

Speaker B

Yes, he did.

Speaker B

Dak.

Speaker B

Prescott did his job.

Speaker A

If.

Speaker A

If I got.

Speaker B

Hold on, hold on.

Speaker B

Dominique.

Speaker B

Hold on, hold on, hold on.

Speaker B

Now, look, if.

Speaker B

If you go out there and you be like, look, Jay, look, take over this real quick.

Speaker B

I'm about to leave real quick.

Speaker B

Don't let it fall.

Speaker B

I. I'll be right back.

Speaker B

Don't let it fall.

Speaker B

You counting on me to make sure it don't fall when I come back?

Speaker B

It failed, bro.

Speaker B

You mad at me?

Speaker B

No.

Speaker B

You gonna go after.

Speaker B

Hey, look, I'm.

Speaker B

Set it up again, bro.

Speaker B

I' ma leave again.

Speaker B

Just don't let it fall.

Speaker B

You leave again, I let it fall again.

Speaker B

You know what, bro?

Speaker B

It's cool.

Speaker B

I ain't even tripping about it.

Speaker B

I' ma send it up one more time, but this time, just try to hold it up the best way you can.

Speaker B

I let it fall again.

Speaker B

You still ain't mad, bro.

Speaker A

Why?

Speaker B

Because that's all he know is.

Speaker B

All I gotta do is put up points, bro.

Speaker B

The best way I can do it.

Speaker A

All right, let me ask you a question.

Speaker B

Go ahead.

Speaker A

What college did Jackson Dark go to?

Speaker B

It doesn't matter.

Speaker A

No, no, no, no, no.

Speaker B

Where did that go?

Speaker A

No, no.

Speaker A

Mississippi State.

Speaker B

Mississippi State.

Speaker A

Listen.

Speaker A

No, no.

Speaker A

The reason I bring in Jackson Dart is because he's a rookie.

Speaker A

You don't bring up that Prescott College no more.

Speaker A

He's been 10 years.

Speaker A

So real quick, real quick.

Speaker A

Junior Junior led team against Johnny Junior Johnny Junior Johnny Junior team y' all get to the end of the game is.

Speaker A

Is 35 to 35.

Speaker B

Yeah.

Speaker A

Are you mad that your defense didn't stop Johnny?

Speaker A

Are you mad that Johnny really got the same amount of points that I got?

Speaker A

The.

Speaker A

Ain't no way my son supposed to have the same amount of points as me.

Speaker A

So the problem I have.

Speaker A

The problem I have is you're right.

Speaker A

Defense wins championships.

Speaker A

But if your offense is good, I can outscore you in the regular season.

Speaker A

I can outscore you in some of the playoff games.

Speaker B

But that's not what everybody talking about.

Speaker A

Super bowl or make or win the Super Bowl.

Speaker A

You're right.

Speaker A

But stop telling me the deep.

Speaker A

The offense look good.

Speaker A

And we weren't even close to the Super Bowl.

Speaker B

And look, let me tell you this.

Speaker B

So look, I mean, close to the playoffs, they.

Speaker B

And I was not tripping.

Speaker B

But look, I Was talking to Germany before the playoffs, before the super bowl started.

Speaker B

And I'm like, you know what, German?

Speaker B

I think I got New England, blah, blah, blah.

Speaker B

And Jeremy get on the phone with me.

Speaker B

He was like, jr, they talking about on the.

Speaker B

You know, what's it called?

Speaker B

They say in New England might not even score.

Speaker B

I'm like, huh?

Speaker B

They might not score.

Speaker B

What are you talking about?

Speaker B

He said, man, I don't think they going to scope.

Speaker B

It's all right.

Speaker B

Cool.

Speaker B

As the game go on, bro, it's third quarter.

Speaker B

I called German on the phone.

Speaker B

I'm like, jeremy, you right, bro.

Speaker B

I don't think they going to score because they knew their defense couldn't.

Speaker B

They.

Speaker B

They knew for a fact they couldn't out run their defense.

Speaker A

Yeah.

Speaker B

At the end of the day, bro, it's.

Speaker B

It's me versus you.

Speaker B

So if I know for a fact if I have a mediocre offense, bro, I can easily get it off in the end zone.

Speaker B

If I have a mediocre offense, does

Speaker A

the Giants defense compared to the Seahawks, it don't.

Speaker A

It's so my point.

Speaker A

Hold on.

Speaker B

Before you go there.

Speaker A

No, before you go there, I got the same amount of points as y'.

Speaker A

All.

Speaker B

Before you go there.

Speaker B

Before you go there, they be Philly in Philly.

Speaker A

And what was everybody talking about?

Speaker A

What they were talking about how good the Giants look or how bad Philly look?

Speaker B

The bad offense.

Speaker B

Right.

Speaker A

How bad Philly looks.

Speaker B

But when they got on.

Speaker B

But when they got on, when they got on espn, they talk about our defense.

Speaker B

They didn't talk about that.

Speaker B

They talk about how horrible the defense was, bro.

Speaker A

Because everybody takes up for them.

Speaker A

You want to know why everybody had a problem with Kobe?

Speaker A

You want to know why Kobe had 81?

Speaker A

Because, yes, I need to stop you on defense, but I need to outscore you to win the game.

Speaker A

But that's Kobe.

Speaker A

No, but that's my whole point.

Speaker B

No, I'm saying no.

Speaker A

Kobe's mentality is about winning.

Speaker B

I'm not worried about winning.

Speaker A

Where we lacking?

Speaker A

Where we sucking?

Speaker A

It ain't worth playing defense, D. You get on the field, score.

Speaker B

Why?

Speaker A

Because my defense sucks.

Speaker B

Okay, cool.

Speaker A

That's why they were the greatest show on earth, because they got on the field and scored.

Speaker A

When y' all saw the Rams play and we was kids, what were they doing?

Speaker A

Scoring.

Speaker A

What they defense do?

Speaker A

Let the other team score.

Speaker B

What the Rams got to do, Come

Speaker A

back and score again.

Speaker B

But look, Kobe had how many championships?

Speaker B

Five.

Speaker B

Exactly, bro.

Speaker B

That ain't got nothing.

Speaker A

And that's the point.

Speaker A

Stop Giving him credit because sorry ass can't get a championship because I keep telling him he's going 35 in the Giants.

Speaker B

He should be happy for that.

Speaker B

But this whole year, they did not praise that they was all on the defense.

Speaker B

Because why that is playing at MVP level.

Speaker A

I'm not talking to everybody who pray.

Speaker B

No, I'm just saying about these two brothers right here.

Speaker B

No, I'm saying office look pretty good.

Speaker B

No, I'm saying.

Speaker B

I'm saying the offense look good to the point where we score to exactly.

Speaker B

Tim.

Speaker B

But the defense.

Speaker B

But the defense giving up.

Speaker A

They wanted 30.

Speaker A

They want enough games to get the number 12.

Speaker B

P man.

Speaker B

But no.

Speaker B

Okay, let me ask you a question.

Speaker B

Did Dak put up the numbers to win game?

Speaker A

Do you.

Speaker A

Do you know that the 49ers had their defense on the bench hurt?

Speaker B

I'm ask.

Speaker A

And they made the playoffs.

Speaker B

I'm ask.

Speaker A

And you telling me Dak Prescott had a good season.

Speaker B

We didn't even play 49ers this year.

Speaker A

No, my point is half they defense, their defense, the side of the ball

Speaker B

y' all talking about.

Speaker A

Half their defense was hurt.

Speaker A

They made the playoffs with Brock Purdy as they quarterback.

Speaker A

Burly Dak didn't even think about the playoffs.

Speaker B

But look at their division.

Speaker B

Look at ours.

Speaker A

They was in the nfc.

Speaker B

Look at ours.

Speaker A

They in the same nfc.

Speaker B

No, no, no, no.

Speaker B

I said look at their division and look at ours.

Speaker B

We had the Eagles, we had the Giants, and we had.

Speaker B

Watch.

Speaker A

He wasn't paying attention attention to.

Speaker A

Maybe.

Speaker A

Maybe you wouldn't.

Speaker A

But we was in week 13, 14.

Speaker A

We still had the chance to win the division.

Speaker A

I'm just letting you know.

Speaker C

Was trash.

Speaker A

Offense was trash.

Speaker B

That's why y.

Speaker A

Right now.

Speaker C

Did you not see.

Speaker B

Real quick, hold on.

Speaker B

Real quick, real quick, hold on.

Speaker B

Real quick, hold on.

Speaker B

No, no, no.

Speaker B

Watch this.

Speaker B

I'm putting up all the highlights.

Speaker B

Put up score.

Speaker B

JR Put up score.

Speaker C

JR People had the top highlights.

Speaker A

I'm g. Put it this way.

Speaker A

I'm giving.

Speaker A

Put it this way.

Speaker B

We got the number 12 schedule.

Speaker A

Tim NJR would y' all drag.

Speaker A

Would y' all draft or sign an offensive lineman?

Speaker B

Hold on, hold on.

Speaker B

Let's do this.

Speaker A

No, I'm asking.

Speaker A

Would y' all draft or sign an offensive lineman right now, offseason?

Speaker A

We need defense.

Speaker A

No, I didn't ask you that.

Speaker B

No, no, no, no.

Speaker A

I'm asking you a simple question.

Speaker A

So y' all wouldn't draft or sign an offensive lineman.

Speaker A

You got good with the offensive line.

Speaker B

I'm cool with.

Speaker B

With that.

Speaker A

Y' all cool with offensive line.

Speaker B

I. I am.

Speaker A

That.

Speaker A

That's a lie.

Speaker B

I'm cool with that.

Speaker A

That's a lie.

Speaker A

Y' all lying.

Speaker A

So who's our right tackle?

Speaker B

Tyler Smith.

Speaker B

I mean, what's his name?

Speaker B

The rookie?

Speaker A

No, he ain't.

Speaker A

Who's our right tackle?

Speaker A

That's my point.

Speaker A

Y' all just saying something.

Speaker A

Dak has got the benefit of the doubt his whole career.

Speaker A

Who?

Speaker B

No, we not moving.

Speaker B

No, we are the white tackle, dude.

Speaker C

We have two good wide receivers.

Speaker C

We got Ferguson and a running back.

Speaker B

Right, right, Good.

Speaker A

We are.

Speaker B

But look, I want to go with this.

Speaker B

I want to go with this.

Speaker B

No, no, no, no, no.

Speaker A

Your number one offense can't lead you to the playoffs and win games.

Speaker B

But hold on, Tim.

Speaker B

Put up the scores.

Speaker B

Put up the scores here.

Speaker C

Yeah, yeah.

Speaker B

All right, let's go.

Speaker A

Week one, we lost to the Arizona Cardinals.

Speaker B

Hey, hold on.

Speaker C

No, yeah, we did.

Speaker A

We lost to the Chicago Bears.

Speaker B

Okay?

Speaker B

Which they did.

Speaker B

Go.

Speaker B

How much.

Speaker A

How many points did your offense score?

Speaker B

Let's see.

Speaker A

Look at the card.

Speaker B

Look at that.

Speaker A

Look at the Bears.

Speaker B

They put up 14.

Speaker B

We gave up.

Speaker B

We gave up 31 and we scored 14.

Speaker A

And your offense is good, but we gave up 30.

Speaker B

We scored four.

Speaker A

I didn't telling you, our defense ain't bad.

Speaker B

No, no, Y' all said offense was good, but.

Speaker B

No, no, but listen.

Speaker C

Do you know the.

Speaker C

They touchdowns.

Speaker B

Hold on, hold on.

Speaker B

Go back.

Speaker B

Go back to him.

Speaker B

Go back to him.

Speaker B

Go back.

Speaker A

Y' all said 14.

Speaker A

35 yards.

Speaker B

No, no, no, no.

Speaker B

65 yards.

Speaker C

Score.

Speaker A

Go 14 points.

Speaker B

But go back.

Speaker A

That's your offense.

Speaker B

But go back, Go back.

Speaker A

Got nothing to do with your defense.

Speaker B

Go back to the scores.

Speaker B

Okay?

Speaker B

I'm gonna go to the games that we won.

Speaker A

Okay.

Speaker B

All right.

Speaker B

The games that we won, right?

Speaker B

Okay.

Speaker B

We beat the giants 40 to 37.

Speaker B

Overtime in overtime.

Speaker B

We gave up 37 points.

Speaker B

They the weakest team in our division.

Speaker A

Okay.

Speaker B

And we gave it 37.

Speaker B

All right, cool.

Speaker C

We played Cowboys.

Speaker C

We tied in overtime.

Speaker B

We tied in overtime with the packers.

Speaker B

Gave up 40 points, bro.

Speaker B

In Orville time.

Speaker B

Yeah.

Speaker A

Defense.

Speaker C

When we score, we got the field

Speaker A

goal to win the game.

Speaker B

We got 40 points on the scoreboard, bro.

Speaker B

All right.

Speaker B

Yeah, tell them again.

Speaker B

Shut your hole.

Speaker B

Look, we played the jets, the worst team in the NFL, and we put up 37.

Speaker B

And we gave up 22 points, bro.

Speaker B

Keep going.

Speaker B

We played the Washington Commanders and gave up 22 points, and we put up 44. Who else?

Speaker B

Hold on.

Speaker A

The.

Speaker B

I'm going go to Bronco cuz we lost that game, the Defense gave up 44 points, bro.

Speaker B

44.

Speaker B

We put up 24.

Speaker B

But we gave up 44.

Speaker B

No, no, no, no, no, no, no, no.

Speaker B

We'll keep going to the Cardinals.

Speaker B

We lost to them.

Speaker B

We gave up 27.

Speaker A

What we score.

Speaker B

We put up 17.

Speaker C

We should have beat them.

Speaker B

We should have won.

Speaker A

So.

Speaker B

So.

Speaker A

Hold on.

Speaker B

No, no, no, no.

Speaker B

Sit back.

Speaker A

This.

Speaker A

This.

Speaker B

We played the Chiefs here at home, where we unbeatable.

Speaker B

We put up 31, and we gave up 28 points.

Speaker B

A field goal.

Speaker B

Keep going till the lines.

Speaker A

The lions.

Speaker A

My goodness.

Speaker B

44 points, bro.

Speaker A

We gave up.

Speaker A

Yeah, well, we scored a 30 score.

Speaker B

30.

Speaker B

Okay, 30 points.

Speaker B

Now that we ain't done.

Speaker A

Look at the Vikings.

Speaker B

Hold on.

Speaker B

Go back.

Speaker B

The Vikings still.

Speaker B

My bad.

Speaker C

That was 34.

Speaker B

34 points.

Speaker C

We scored 26.

Speaker A

We gave up 34 points.

Speaker A

So.

Speaker A

So real quick.

Speaker B

Every team we played, we gave up 30.

Speaker A

So this is my thing.

Speaker A

And maybe our standard is different.

Speaker A

That's why we argue.

Speaker A

My standard is Jordan.

Speaker A

My standard is Kobe.

Speaker A

My standard is Troy.

Speaker B

You trying to ask for.

Speaker A

No, no, no, no, no, no.

Speaker A

Stop, stop.

Speaker A

My standard is when greatness is inside of you.

Speaker B

Okay?

Speaker A

I can't get over the hump because my defense is bad, okay?

Speaker A

But getting over the hump and getting up the hill is two different things.

Speaker A

We can't even get up the heels.

Speaker B

Why y.

Speaker B

No, no, no, no, no.

Speaker B

You can't use Jordan.

Speaker A

I can.

Speaker B

No, you can't.

Speaker B

Jordan all defense.

Speaker A

No, Jordan ain't all defense.

Speaker B

This is our defense.

Speaker A

Run.

Speaker A

Jordan dropped however many points his team needed.

Speaker B

That's offense.

Speaker A

What you remember Jordan for is the last shot of him doing wood.

Speaker B

But he's all defense, too.

Speaker A

No, no, but listen, listen.

Speaker A

It's not.

Speaker A

It's not.

Speaker A

Can't do both.

Speaker A

But it's not.

Speaker A

But this.

Speaker A

This is where y' all missing it.

Speaker A

I'm not taking away from defense, all right?

Speaker A

But the reason I bring up Jordan, Kobe, Troy, Aman and the greats is because defense may have made the stop and making stops, but my job is.

Speaker A

If you got zero, I need to score one.

Speaker B

Exactly.

Speaker A

If you got 43, I need to score 44.

Speaker A

So Dak has been the same player his entire career.

Speaker A

He has great stats.

Speaker A

He threw for 350, 50 yards.

Speaker A

He had four touchdowns.

Speaker A

That's great.

Speaker A

They had six touchdowns, so that's not great.

Speaker A

What great is is I match what your offense does with my defense.

Speaker A

So when you look at.

Speaker A

Why has Josh Allen got his name?

Speaker A

Because he had a playoff game with him and Patrick Mahomes and his defense never made the stop.

Speaker A

It was 13 seconds left and Patrick Mahomes was able to get his team down there to win.

Speaker A

They don't blame Josh Allen because his defensive looked.

Speaker A

They praised Josh Allen because it took Patrick Mahomes literally to the last seconds to win.

Speaker A

Because I'm gonna take my offense where we need to go.

Speaker A

I'm not relying on my defense.

Speaker A

Y' all keep giving Dallas when we suck on defense while offense gotta suck because our office ain't leading us to either.

Speaker B

All right, now I got a question for you.

Speaker A

What good team we beat this year?

Speaker B

I got a question for you in the Super Bowl.

Speaker A

I'm waiting.

Speaker B

No, in the, in the super bowl, what did they talk about the most exactly in the Super Bowl?

Speaker B

What do they talk about the most in this Super Bowl?

Speaker B

Now I'm asking, bro, what did they talk about in the super bowl defense.

Speaker B

Exactly, bro.

Speaker C

I think I know what your problem is Super Bowl.

Speaker C

And I agree with you too, though that ain't going to be it to get us to where we want you

Speaker B

to be at Super Bowl.

Speaker C

Cuz we always, we always been thinking about like, man, we had this chance here and he didn't do it.

Speaker B

But I, I

Speaker C

to help because our defense wasn't doing anything.

Speaker B

But I agree with you both.

Speaker B

Y.

Speaker A

My problem is what you just said, what I've been seeing your entire career.

Speaker A

So I'm not mad that we have a top peak this year.

Speaker A

Matter of fact, I expected it once I saw how bad our defense was.

Speaker A

But we don't get.

Speaker A

You don't get to praise our offense in deck.

Speaker B

He's always been sorry, but I'm not, I'm not taking that way you a

Speaker A

deck some supported and you still don't believe.

Speaker B

No, no, no, no, no, no.

Speaker B

I'm a, I'm a Cowboy fan but I'm saying this.

Speaker B

I'm not taking nothing away from what Dak did and how he doing interceptions he threw because he had a bad year.

Speaker B

One year.

Speaker B

I'm not taking the noise from that.

Speaker B

I'm just saying get a guy a chance.

Speaker B

Like it's two sides of the game.

Speaker A

10 seasons, but it's two 10 seasons.

Speaker B

When.

Speaker B

When have he had a ultimate defense?

Speaker A

When he threw an interception on a screenplay against Green Bay.

Speaker A

They talk about how Aaron Rodgers left him at the end.

Speaker A

One year he threw a interception on a screen play.

Speaker B

But that's one year, Tim.

Speaker A

Your whole, your whole one year, your whole job on the screenplay is to see the play.

Speaker B

One year though you don't See the

Speaker A

defender right here next to the one player throw the ball.

Speaker B

But that's one year.

Speaker A

That's every year.

Speaker B

No, that's one year.

Speaker B

See, you just skipped over.

Speaker B

I couldn't skipped over that.

Speaker A

The Tim on your title.

Speaker A

He said Dak has proven that we can't count on him.

Speaker B

I'm not saying that to that point.

Speaker A

Point.

Speaker B

I. I'm not saying it.

Speaker B

Proving it.

Speaker B

I'm not saying it.

Speaker B

I'm saying proving it.

Speaker B

I'm saying 10 years.

Speaker A

A one year, 10 years.

Speaker B

I'm saying this.

Speaker A

He had Z King do nothing.

Speaker B

I'm saying this.

Speaker C

Jerry gotta go.

Speaker C

Jerry gotta go.

Speaker B

I'm saying this.

Speaker B

All I'm saying is this.

Speaker B

Can we say that this past season, the defense that we had, the numbers that he put up, the points that he put up this year, y' all ain't telling me if defense had one stop, just one.

Speaker B

We want me to play.

Speaker A

I can make y' all mad.

Speaker A

You ready?

Speaker B

Don't make me mad no more.

Speaker A

I'm making.

Speaker A

They told.

Speaker A

They told us.

Speaker A

For the three or four times he made it.

Speaker A

Tony Romo didn't have no defense.

Speaker A

Zero.

Speaker A

And he made the playoffs.

Speaker B

Zero.

Speaker A

So that's all I'm saying, junior.

Speaker A

All I'm saying is stop giving that credit.

Speaker A

I'm not giving quarterbacks get to the play.

Speaker B

I didn't bring up that.

Speaker A

So if.

Speaker A

If I'm bringing it up.

Speaker B

But I didn't.

Speaker A

We're not giving him credit.

Speaker B

I'm not bringing up that.

Speaker A

No.

Speaker B

I'm bringing up the defensive side of the.

Speaker A

I'm bringing up that.

Speaker B

The first thing we brought up.

Speaker A

We should have made the playoffs.

Speaker A

If we got offense, we got two cold receivers, two people that could be the number one.

Speaker B

George Pickett.

Speaker A

I can't.

Speaker A

I can't name over five teams.

Speaker A

George Pickens can't start for.

Speaker A

He got two of them.

Speaker B

That's facts.

Speaker A

And we still couldn't make the playoffs.

Speaker B

But I'm.

Speaker B

All I'm saying is this.

Speaker A

And we had a thousand yard rusher.

Speaker B

We did.

Speaker A

But I'm saying we still didn't make the playoffs.

Speaker B

Right.

Speaker A

We ain't even coughing them up.

Speaker B

That's cool.

Speaker B

But look, you can't put up 27.

Speaker B

Give them.

Speaker A

It's too far.

Speaker A

They didn't get my journey.

Speaker B

You can't put up.

Speaker B

You can't put up 27 and give him 35.

Speaker A

You're right.

Speaker A

So you need to score 36.

Speaker B

So you want that to come out there.

Speaker B

Go 36.

Speaker B

He ain't got the ball.

Speaker A

I want that.

Speaker A

You should be scoring every time.

Speaker A

That's why Kobe came down and shot the ball.

Speaker A

Kobe.

Speaker A

Kobe mentality was.

Speaker A

And it ain't so.

Speaker B

He didn't get on run test when he didn't shoot in the corner.

Speaker A

He did.

Speaker B

Right.

Speaker A

But.

Speaker A

But he also.

Speaker A

Kobe also said, I'm not going to pass you the ball.

Speaker A

I'm just going to come shoot it.

Speaker A

I believe in me more than I believe in you.

Speaker B

You already got one in there.

Speaker A

Tim N. Tim.

Speaker A

Trying to drink.

Speaker A

I like this.

Speaker A

Hey, hey.

Speaker A

I like that.

Speaker A

Hey, hey, listen.

Speaker A

We like to.

Speaker A

We like to.

Speaker A

You know what I'm saying?

Speaker A

Like to.

Speaker A

To.

Speaker A

To thank y' all for tuning in.

Speaker A

To Dad's friends.

Speaker B

Y' all know what it is.

Speaker A

But I guess today they really ain't against it.

Speaker A

Really family.

Speaker A

But taking over.

Speaker A

Like the guest said, it's time to take a shot.

Speaker B

So we gonna do that.

Speaker B

He gave you a little swig on.

Speaker B

On top of your Swede.

Speaker A

On top of the other.

Speaker C

Is you gonna play.

Speaker B

Get on.

Speaker A

Hey, we appreciate y' all coming today.

Speaker B

Hey, let's go, y'.

Speaker A

All.

Speaker B

Y' all know what time it is.

Speaker B

Hey, every time we leave the show, every time we.

Speaker B

My bad.

Speaker B

Every time we start the show, we start the show off with a hit.

Speaker B

And we gonna end it with a hit.

Speaker B

So let's go ahead and drop it,

Speaker A

coochie

Speaker B

scoochie.

Speaker A

Okay.

Speaker A

Let me get my paper out.

Speaker B

My paper out.

Speaker A

I'm so turned up right now.

Speaker A

Please turn Gucci.

Speaker A

Man down.

Speaker A

Volume.

Speaker A

Free Squad.

Speaker A

No doubt.

Speaker A

We don't give a fuck.

Speaker B

Volume.

Speaker A

Hit the club.

Speaker A

Shoot the globe.

Speaker A

Tell the Globe.

Speaker B

Volume.

Speaker A

You should hit the flow.

Speaker A

Get lower, shit.

Speaker A

Hit the flow.

Speaker A

Get lower.

Speaker A

Shit the fuck up.

Speaker A

Use a motherfucker.