1 00:00:00,073 --> 00:00:01,983 - I can't take it anymore, Harry. 2 00:00:03,210 --> 00:00:06,360 We got no food, we got no jobs. 3 00:00:06,360 --> 00:00:08,190 - Our pet's heads are falling off. 4 00:00:08,190 --> 00:00:09,910 That's kind of fitting. 5 00:00:09,910 --> 00:00:10,743 Blind Man's Bluff. 6 00:00:10,743 --> 00:00:12,530 Then, they gave the bird to a blind man. 7 00:00:14,110 --> 00:00:19,110 - Petey, you sold my dead bird to a blind kid? 8 00:00:19,410 --> 00:00:21,930 - Harry, I took care of it. 9 00:00:21,930 --> 00:00:22,763 - Pretty bird. 10 00:00:24,150 --> 00:00:25,260 Pretty bird. 11 00:00:25,260 --> 00:00:26,790 - I love it when he is on the news. 12 00:00:26,790 --> 00:00:29,880 - We'll be back in a minute with the heartbreaking story 13 00:00:29,880 --> 00:00:31,980 of the blind Rhode Island boy 14 00:00:31,980 --> 00:00:35,640 who was duped into buying a dead parakeet. 15 00:00:35,640 --> 00:00:38,670 - I just thought he was real quiet. 16 00:00:38,670 --> 00:00:40,920 - There's a story inside every smoke shop 17 00:00:40,920 --> 00:00:44,190 with every cigar and with every person. 18 00:00:44,190 --> 00:00:47,130 Come be a part of the cigar lifestyle at Boveda. 19 00:00:47,130 --> 00:00:49,053 This is Box Press. 20 00:00:50,354 --> 00:00:53,854 (uplifting music playing) 21 00:00:57,539 --> 00:00:58,372 Welcome to another episode of Box Press. 22 00:00:58,372 --> 00:00:59,820 I'm your host, Rob Gagner. 23 00:00:59,820 --> 00:01:01,980 - And, I'm your other host, Nate Beck. 24 00:01:01,980 --> 00:01:03,840 - And, today, we are continuing on 25 00:01:03,840 --> 00:01:06,150 with our Big Brother, Little Brother series 26 00:01:06,150 --> 00:01:09,990 where we are trying to figure out if in a cigar line, 27 00:01:09,990 --> 00:01:11,730 if they have like a bottom end, 28 00:01:11,730 --> 00:01:15,300 more economically friendly cigar, 29 00:01:15,300 --> 00:01:20,300 and a high end more not economically friendly cigar, 30 00:01:20,310 --> 00:01:23,370 but very similar, 31 00:01:23,370 --> 00:01:26,040 to see if you can kind of bounce between the two, 32 00:01:26,040 --> 00:01:30,180 or if you want something a little bit more celebratory, 33 00:01:30,180 --> 00:01:31,611 you can do that, 34 00:01:31,611 --> 00:01:33,330 or if you really like the celebratory stick, 35 00:01:33,330 --> 00:01:35,280 but you can't afford to always smoke that, 36 00:01:35,280 --> 00:01:36,990 you can go down to the budget friendly stick. 37 00:01:36,990 --> 00:01:38,289 - Yep. 38 00:01:38,289 --> 00:01:39,630 - So, we kind of had to... 39 00:01:39,630 --> 00:01:41,460 I don't know, we pushed down the boundaries 40 00:01:41,460 --> 00:01:42,570 a little bit this time, 41 00:01:42,570 --> 00:01:44,520 because we're doing Caldwell, 42 00:01:44,520 --> 00:01:47,460 but we're also doing Lost & Found. 43 00:01:47,460 --> 00:01:50,460 There are extensions of each other, I would say, 44 00:01:50,460 --> 00:01:55,460 but overall they're definitely not from the same, I guess, 45 00:01:56,010 --> 00:01:56,843 company. 46 00:01:56,843 --> 00:01:57,676 - Right. 47 00:01:57,676 --> 00:01:58,509 - So... 48 00:01:58,509 --> 00:02:01,267 - They're sort of like adjacent companies, right? 49 00:02:01,267 --> 00:02:02,100 - Yeah. 50 00:02:02,100 --> 00:02:03,450 We're pushing the boundaries a little bit. 51 00:02:03,450 --> 00:02:05,550 The consistency is Robert Caldwell, right? 52 00:02:05,550 --> 00:02:06,780 - Mm-hmm. 53 00:02:06,780 --> 00:02:09,753 - With Lost & Found, you bring in Tony. 54 00:02:11,370 --> 00:02:12,203 - Tony Bellato. 55 00:02:12,203 --> 00:02:15,000 - Bellato who does a ton of stuff. 56 00:02:15,000 --> 00:02:18,360 He has a really cool coffee company 57 00:02:18,360 --> 00:02:20,433 that we were actually just looking up, 58 00:02:21,750 --> 00:02:24,570 Youngstown Coffee Company. 59 00:02:24,570 --> 00:02:26,580 - Yeah, based outta Youngstown, Ohio. 60 00:02:26,580 --> 00:02:30,780 - And, amazing like single origin Ethiopian. 61 00:02:30,780 --> 00:02:33,600 You can get like a full pound for 20 bucks. 62 00:02:33,600 --> 00:02:34,433 - That's a good deal. 63 00:02:34,433 --> 00:02:36,510 - Shout out to Tony. 64 00:02:36,510 --> 00:02:39,003 We just got off the phone with him actually, 65 00:02:39,003 --> 00:02:39,930 because we were trying to figure out 66 00:02:39,930 --> 00:02:41,610 what the heck is going on 67 00:02:41,610 --> 00:02:45,360 with this 22 Minutes to Midnight series, 68 00:02:45,360 --> 00:02:47,220 because the Maduro, 69 00:02:47,220 --> 00:02:48,710 which we have-- 70 00:02:48,710 --> 00:02:49,543 - Which you can see that here. 71 00:02:49,543 --> 00:02:50,700 - Here is 11:38 72 00:02:50,700 --> 00:02:54,540 and then the other one that's Robert Caldwell's blend 73 00:02:54,540 --> 00:02:57,480 is 23:38. 74 00:02:57,480 --> 00:02:59,462 And, apparently, 75 00:02:59,462 --> 00:03:01,680 this whole series came about, 76 00:03:01,680 --> 00:03:05,490 because when they were first starting Lost & Found, 77 00:03:05,490 --> 00:03:10,490 Tony was getting some of these cigars from Robert, 78 00:03:10,560 --> 00:03:13,283 and Robert was saying, here, smoke these, 79 00:03:13,283 --> 00:03:14,116 let me know what you think. 80 00:03:14,116 --> 00:03:17,310 Now, these are all cigars that were already pre-rolled. 81 00:03:17,310 --> 00:03:18,240 They were just sitting there, 82 00:03:18,240 --> 00:03:19,350 and they thought, well, 83 00:03:19,350 --> 00:03:22,650 there's not enough for any one major brand to do anything. 84 00:03:22,650 --> 00:03:24,494 But, these guys thought, hey, 85 00:03:24,494 --> 00:03:25,950 maybe we could bring these to the world. 86 00:03:25,950 --> 00:03:28,293 Well, Tony ended up smoking, 87 00:03:29,506 --> 00:03:31,440 I think he said the Pepper Cream Soda. 88 00:03:31,440 --> 00:03:34,860 And, he... I think you're right. 89 00:03:34,860 --> 00:03:39,860 He texted or called Robert at 22 Minutes to Midnight saying, 90 00:03:40,080 --> 00:03:41,940 we gotta do something with this. 91 00:03:41,940 --> 00:03:45,450 It's too good to just like let it go undiscovered, 92 00:03:45,450 --> 00:03:46,283 or unshared, 93 00:03:46,283 --> 00:03:47,730 or any of that. 94 00:03:47,730 --> 00:03:49,800 So, that was basically the foundation 95 00:03:49,800 --> 00:03:51,483 of what started Lost & Found. 96 00:03:52,650 --> 00:03:55,050 Now, come full circle. 97 00:03:55,050 --> 00:03:55,890 - Delicious. 98 00:03:55,890 --> 00:03:58,807 - These two cigars that are 22 Minutes to Midnight. 99 00:03:58,807 --> 00:04:00,210 There's four in the entire line, there's Connecticut, 100 00:04:00,210 --> 00:04:03,720 we got the Habano, then there's a Criollo. 101 00:04:03,720 --> 00:04:05,082 - Criollo, yeah. 102 00:04:05,082 --> 00:04:06,064 - Criollo. 103 00:04:06,064 --> 00:04:06,897 - Corojo? 104 00:04:06,897 --> 00:04:07,730 Corojo, maybe? 105 00:04:07,730 --> 00:04:09,450 - Corojo, no Criollo sounds right. 106 00:04:09,450 --> 00:04:10,660 - Let's... 107 00:04:10,660 --> 00:04:11,493 Coro... 108 00:04:11,493 --> 00:04:12,326 Oh. 109 00:04:14,226 --> 00:04:15,059 Criollo. 110 00:04:15,059 --> 00:04:17,880 - Criollo is the 22 Minutes to Noon. 111 00:04:17,880 --> 00:04:19,980 - Yeah, and then the Maduro, that's what we have. 112 00:04:19,980 --> 00:04:20,813 - Yep. 113 00:04:20,813 --> 00:04:21,930 - Sorry, can't keep them all straight. 114 00:04:21,930 --> 00:04:23,370 - So, there's two in each, 115 00:04:23,370 --> 00:04:26,820 two in the 22 Minutes to Noon and two versions 116 00:04:26,820 --> 00:04:29,010 in the 22 Minutes to Midnight. 117 00:04:29,010 --> 00:04:31,410 - Right, but they're all labeled as 22 Minutes to Midnight. 118 00:04:31,410 --> 00:04:32,400 Just the number changes 119 00:04:32,400 --> 00:04:33,930 and the person who signed it-- 120 00:04:33,930 --> 00:04:35,130 - Oh, cool. 121 00:04:35,130 --> 00:04:36,600 - Anthony Bellato, 122 00:04:36,600 --> 00:04:39,870 Tony Bellato signed the 11:38 boxes. 123 00:04:39,870 --> 00:04:41,520 Those are the blends that he did. 124 00:04:42,450 --> 00:04:45,180 And, the 23:38s, that Connecticut 125 00:04:45,180 --> 00:04:47,373 and Habano are the ones that Robert did. 126 00:04:48,360 --> 00:04:49,263 I love Habano. 127 00:04:50,100 --> 00:04:54,963 So, you were smoking this one, the gold band 23:38, 128 00:04:56,490 --> 00:04:57,323 by Robert. 129 00:04:57,323 --> 00:04:58,500 It's the Habano. 130 00:04:58,500 --> 00:04:59,490 You said this is really good. 131 00:04:59,490 --> 00:05:01,230 I was like, oh really? - It's fantastic. 132 00:05:01,230 --> 00:05:02,063 Yeah. 133 00:05:02,063 --> 00:05:04,666 - I said we should do a Big Brother Little Brother series, 134 00:05:04,666 --> 00:05:07,308 because it's like a $19 stick roughly, you know? 135 00:05:07,308 --> 00:05:10,353 So, then we came up with the Blind Man's Bluff, 136 00:05:11,550 --> 00:05:13,050 the Habano and the Maduro. 137 00:05:13,050 --> 00:05:15,780 And, in fact, it's working really, really well. 138 00:05:15,780 --> 00:05:18,520 All of these are smoking really well together 139 00:05:19,560 --> 00:05:23,106 and I don't think they intentionally did any of that at all. 140 00:05:23,106 --> 00:05:25,260 - Yeah, so we've got Blind Man's Bluff here 141 00:05:25,260 --> 00:05:28,233 and the 22 Minutes to Midnight Habano here. 142 00:05:29,640 --> 00:05:30,473 And-- 143 00:05:30,473 --> 00:05:31,410 - You know, there was no intention, 144 00:05:31,410 --> 00:05:33,510 like we're the ones doing this, not them. 145 00:05:33,510 --> 00:05:35,087 Like they don't know, 146 00:05:35,087 --> 00:05:36,079 like, oh yeah, that's a... 147 00:05:36,079 --> 00:05:38,430 - And, yeah, and according to Tony, 148 00:05:38,430 --> 00:05:42,150 the tobaccos that are in the 22 Minutes to Midnight cigars 149 00:05:42,150 --> 00:05:45,480 are 15- to 18-year-old tobaccos. 150 00:05:45,480 --> 00:05:46,350 - On average. 151 00:05:46,350 --> 00:05:47,400 - On average. 152 00:05:47,400 --> 00:05:48,330 - So, that's the average. 153 00:05:48,330 --> 00:05:49,860 - And, according to a couple of other sites 154 00:05:49,860 --> 00:05:51,438 I was looking at, 155 00:05:51,438 --> 00:05:52,271 some of the cigars, 156 00:05:52,271 --> 00:05:55,830 the age actually can push closer to 25 years. 157 00:05:55,830 --> 00:05:58,170 So, that's the average age of these tobaccos. 158 00:05:58,170 --> 00:05:59,716 - And, I was asking him, 159 00:05:59,716 --> 00:06:02,610 I'm like oftentimes when a company will tell 160 00:06:02,610 --> 00:06:04,140 20-year-aged tobacco, 161 00:06:04,140 --> 00:06:05,070 I'm like, yeah, whatever, 162 00:06:05,070 --> 00:06:06,033 like how much? 163 00:06:07,050 --> 00:06:10,680 But, what he's saying is that it's a majority. 164 00:06:10,680 --> 00:06:13,800 That's why the average comes down to like 15 years, 165 00:06:13,800 --> 00:06:16,830 because they're trying to use all the tobacco 166 00:06:16,830 --> 00:06:20,343 that's basically been kind of overlooked. 167 00:06:21,180 --> 00:06:23,460 I said, well, what's the premise of that? 168 00:06:23,460 --> 00:06:24,378 And, he's like, well, 169 00:06:24,378 --> 00:06:25,410 if you're a bigger cigar company, 170 00:06:25,410 --> 00:06:27,900 you are not gonna make a box, a band, 171 00:06:27,900 --> 00:06:32,900 and a brand for 20,000 sticks, 5,000 sticks. 172 00:06:34,050 --> 00:06:35,160 But, these guys will, 173 00:06:35,160 --> 00:06:37,950 because the whole premise is to just say, hey, 174 00:06:37,950 --> 00:06:41,100 this is something that could be done, 175 00:06:41,100 --> 00:06:46,100 and make a band out of it and release it. 176 00:06:47,130 --> 00:06:50,160 So, I think one of the cool things about Lost & Found 177 00:06:50,160 --> 00:06:53,280 is this opportunity to try some unique stuff, 178 00:06:53,280 --> 00:06:55,020 but it's also probably some stuff 179 00:06:55,020 --> 00:06:57,000 that you may not ever be able to get again. 180 00:06:57,000 --> 00:06:58,380 - Yeah. 181 00:06:58,380 --> 00:07:02,130 - Hence the whole Lost, Found, 182 00:07:02,130 --> 00:07:03,810 and then they should almost finish it with like, 183 00:07:03,810 --> 00:07:05,984 well, Gone again. 184 00:07:05,984 --> 00:07:07,050 Like, just gone. 185 00:07:07,050 --> 00:07:08,700 - That's the next brand, Gone Again. 186 00:07:08,700 --> 00:07:11,010 - Gone again, because it's... 187 00:07:11,010 --> 00:07:12,420 It's not coming back. 188 00:07:12,420 --> 00:07:13,350 - Yeah. 189 00:07:13,350 --> 00:07:14,183 I will say, Rob, 190 00:07:14,183 --> 00:07:17,583 this is the first time where we've smoked multiple cigars, 191 00:07:18,420 --> 00:07:20,970 where I really feel like all four of these cigars 192 00:07:20,970 --> 00:07:25,140 are forming a really cool combination of flavors. 193 00:07:25,140 --> 00:07:28,080 Like everything really is pairing very, very well. 194 00:07:28,080 --> 00:07:28,913 Would you agree? 195 00:07:29,764 --> 00:07:30,597 - Yeah. 196 00:07:30,597 --> 00:07:32,730 And, I was hesitant to do all four of these, 197 00:07:32,730 --> 00:07:36,730 because I wanted to do the Maduros up against each other 198 00:07:36,730 --> 00:07:37,710 and the Habanos up against each other. 199 00:07:37,710 --> 00:07:40,926 But, now I find myself cutting across, 200 00:07:40,926 --> 00:07:43,518 like Habanos and Maduros, 201 00:07:43,518 --> 00:07:44,404 and it's like, 202 00:07:44,404 --> 00:07:45,270 it's still working really well, 203 00:07:45,270 --> 00:07:47,251 which is really surprising to me, 204 00:07:47,251 --> 00:07:50,400 because even on this 11:38 Maduro, 205 00:07:50,400 --> 00:07:52,740 this is a Mexican San Andreas Maduro, 206 00:07:52,740 --> 00:07:55,635 whereas the Blind Man's Puff... 207 00:07:55,635 --> 00:07:56,468 Bluff. - Bluff, yep. 208 00:07:56,468 --> 00:07:57,390 - Bluff. 209 00:07:57,390 --> 00:07:59,100 That is a broad leaf Maduro. 210 00:07:59,100 --> 00:08:01,406 - Gotcha, which is a pretty... 211 00:08:01,406 --> 00:08:02,485 - A big difference. 212 00:08:02,485 --> 00:08:03,600 - Huge dramatic difference in flavor, yeah. 213 00:08:03,600 --> 00:08:06,180 - Yeah, big, big, big difference. 214 00:08:06,180 --> 00:08:10,470 We're not even like really sticking with the same leaf here. 215 00:08:10,470 --> 00:08:11,520 We're just... 216 00:08:11,520 --> 00:08:14,520 - And, Rob, I just noticed on the side of the band here, 217 00:08:14,520 --> 00:08:15,870 it's got Danlí Honduras? 218 00:08:16,875 --> 00:08:17,835 - Yeah, that's what I was saying. 219 00:08:17,835 --> 00:08:18,668 I think they're all made in... 220 00:08:18,668 --> 00:08:21,270 But then they also have some Nicaragua stuff. 221 00:08:21,270 --> 00:08:25,410 But, it just could be that they're all rolled in Honduras. 222 00:08:25,410 --> 00:08:27,720 - Yeah, all four of these are really good. 223 00:08:27,720 --> 00:08:29,367 I agree with you. 224 00:08:29,367 --> 00:08:30,660 For sure, these Blind Man's Bluffs. 225 00:08:30,660 --> 00:08:32,760 Either one of these is box worthy. 226 00:08:32,760 --> 00:08:33,593 - Totally. 227 00:08:33,593 --> 00:08:34,650 - Totally box worthy. 228 00:08:34,650 --> 00:08:35,550 - I've always... 229 00:08:35,550 --> 00:08:36,383 I've always had... 230 00:08:36,383 --> 00:08:37,216 What are they going for a stick? 231 00:08:38,340 --> 00:08:41,010 I'll have to look on a different website here real quick. 232 00:08:41,010 --> 00:08:41,843 - I bet these are, what? 233 00:08:41,843 --> 00:08:43,203 Eight, $9 a stick, 234 00:08:44,100 --> 00:08:45,330 somewhere in that wheelhouse? 235 00:08:45,330 --> 00:08:46,830 - Well, I got an invoice right here. 236 00:08:46,830 --> 00:08:47,980 What did I pay for them? 237 00:08:55,920 --> 00:08:57,960 Dammit, I have to do math. 238 00:08:57,960 --> 00:09:00,030 - What do we got there, four? 239 00:09:00,030 --> 00:09:01,200 - 34 bucks? 240 00:09:01,200 --> 00:09:03,020 - So, 35 bucks, you got... 241 00:09:04,470 --> 00:09:05,303 - Yeah. 242 00:09:05,303 --> 00:09:06,900 - Eight bucks, 8.50. 243 00:09:06,900 --> 00:09:08,200 - So, yeah. 244 00:09:08,200 --> 00:09:09,720 I mean less than $10. 245 00:09:09,720 --> 00:09:11,773 And, I've always-- 246 00:09:11,773 --> 00:09:12,606 - Basically, we'll say $9 a stick. 247 00:09:12,606 --> 00:09:16,890 - I've always had an affinity towards the Blind Man. 248 00:09:16,890 --> 00:09:17,723 The... 249 00:09:17,723 --> 00:09:19,440 I don't think I've had anything in there, 250 00:09:19,440 --> 00:09:21,660 although I don't know if I've had a ton of stuff, 251 00:09:21,660 --> 00:09:23,760 because there is quite a bit, 252 00:09:23,760 --> 00:09:24,750 more than I thought. 253 00:09:24,750 --> 00:09:25,980 They have a Connecticut. 254 00:09:25,980 --> 00:09:27,633 Didn't know that. 255 00:09:27,633 --> 00:09:28,581 - There's a lot of options 256 00:09:28,581 --> 00:09:30,731 - They have a Nicaraguan, didn't know that. 257 00:09:32,040 --> 00:09:33,540 And, then the Maduro, 258 00:09:33,540 --> 00:09:36,780 so I've only had the Maduro and the Habano. 259 00:09:36,780 --> 00:09:37,680 - These are really great. 260 00:09:37,680 --> 00:09:41,040 - I'd be tempted to try the other ones for sure, 261 00:09:41,040 --> 00:09:42,510 based on my experience. 262 00:09:42,510 --> 00:09:44,580 - I think we need to get a purchase order together, Rob. 263 00:09:44,580 --> 00:09:45,660 - Oh, yeah, totally. 264 00:09:45,660 --> 00:09:47,430 - Yeah, for science. 265 00:09:47,430 --> 00:09:48,263 - For science. 266 00:09:48,263 --> 00:09:49,588 - Yeah, it's... 267 00:09:49,588 --> 00:09:51,238 Seems like the right thing to do. 268 00:09:52,080 --> 00:09:54,570 - And, shout out to Zach who sent us a box of the Maduros. 269 00:09:54,570 --> 00:09:55,860 We appreciate you. 270 00:09:55,860 --> 00:09:57,570 Thank you very much, buddy. 271 00:09:57,570 --> 00:09:59,760 - And, we got another cigar waiting in the wings 272 00:09:59,760 --> 00:10:01,680 that we'll have to do something special with. 273 00:10:01,680 --> 00:10:04,050 - Yeah, that was a tough one. 274 00:10:04,050 --> 00:10:05,160 And, it's... 275 00:10:05,160 --> 00:10:05,993 Should we just... 276 00:10:05,993 --> 00:10:07,345 Should we name it? 277 00:10:07,345 --> 00:10:09,000 - We should. We should. 278 00:10:09,000 --> 00:10:11,010 - It's the, what is the name of it? 279 00:10:11,010 --> 00:10:11,940 - Long Live The Queen. 280 00:10:11,940 --> 00:10:13,543 - Long Live The Queen. 281 00:10:13,543 --> 00:10:14,880 - It's absolutely spectacular. 282 00:10:14,880 --> 00:10:15,713 - Unbelievable. 283 00:10:15,713 --> 00:10:16,546 - Spectacular. 284 00:10:16,546 --> 00:10:17,760 - But, the wrapper on that is Cameroon. 285 00:10:17,760 --> 00:10:19,920 So, it's like there's no... 286 00:10:19,920 --> 00:10:21,660 There's no Big Brother Little Brother. 287 00:10:21,660 --> 00:10:26,160 and there's nothing inside Caldwell's repertoire 288 00:10:26,160 --> 00:10:28,020 that's like anything Cameroon. 289 00:10:28,020 --> 00:10:29,393 - It's just really special. 290 00:10:29,393 --> 00:10:30,226 - So, I was like, 291 00:10:30,226 --> 00:10:31,059 well, what are we gonna do with that? 292 00:10:31,059 --> 00:10:31,892 - I'm a... 293 00:10:31,892 --> 00:10:32,725 Like you are with Habano, 294 00:10:32,725 --> 00:10:34,650 I'm a nut for Cameroon Wrapper I have found as of late. 295 00:10:34,650 --> 00:10:38,610 - So, we're gonna obviously do something with that cigar, 296 00:10:38,610 --> 00:10:40,320 but what should we do with it? 297 00:10:40,320 --> 00:10:43,630 Go ahead and put some comments in the YouTube 298 00:10:44,812 --> 00:10:45,990 or wherever you find this. 299 00:10:45,990 --> 00:10:49,923 You can even send us emails at info@bovedainc.com. 300 00:10:51,270 --> 00:10:55,320 What should we do with Long Live the Queen? 301 00:10:55,320 --> 00:10:56,640 - And, if you follow us on Instagram, 302 00:10:56,640 --> 00:10:58,950 drop us a a message on Instagram. 303 00:10:58,950 --> 00:11:00,930 - You can always direct message us. 304 00:11:00,930 --> 00:11:04,500 - It's Boveda_Rob and Boveda_Nate. 305 00:11:04,500 --> 00:11:05,994 - Let us know what you think, because- 306 00:11:05,994 --> 00:11:06,900 - Yeah, give us some ideas. 307 00:11:06,900 --> 00:11:09,000 - I got an idea possibly of putting it up 308 00:11:09,000 --> 00:11:11,141 against some other Cameroons. 309 00:11:11,141 --> 00:11:12,126 - I was just thinking that. 310 00:11:12,126 --> 00:11:12,959 - But, I'm not sure if that's gonna be like, 311 00:11:12,959 --> 00:11:15,930 I'd like to hear what other people are interested in. 312 00:11:15,930 --> 00:11:17,520 Is it putting up against other Cameroons? 313 00:11:17,520 --> 00:11:21,090 Is it putting up against other things in that Caldwell line, 314 00:11:21,090 --> 00:11:22,350 like Long Live The King? 315 00:11:22,350 --> 00:11:23,820 Because he has a bunch there, too. 316 00:11:23,820 --> 00:11:25,140 It's like... 317 00:11:25,140 --> 00:11:28,230 And, there were so many like small things 318 00:11:28,230 --> 00:11:30,180 that he's done with Long Live The King, 319 00:11:30,180 --> 00:11:31,293 The King Is Dead. 320 00:11:32,220 --> 00:11:34,080 There were a ton of different things on Small Batch 321 00:11:34,080 --> 00:11:35,360 that I saw. 322 00:11:35,360 --> 00:11:36,193 It was like holy cow. 323 00:11:36,193 --> 00:11:38,970 Like all of this is just a ton of different blends. 324 00:11:38,970 --> 00:11:41,400 In my opinion I have no idea where it all starts 325 00:11:41,400 --> 00:11:44,831 and that's where Caldwell gets a little confusing for me. 326 00:11:44,831 --> 00:11:47,670 It's like where with everything going on, 327 00:11:47,670 --> 00:11:49,080 what is it, where is it from, 328 00:11:49,080 --> 00:11:50,745 and how do I obtain it? 329 00:11:50,745 --> 00:11:51,578 Because, it's hard. 330 00:11:51,578 --> 00:11:52,411 - I like it. 331 00:11:52,411 --> 00:11:54,060 And, it also can be confusing, the... 332 00:11:54,060 --> 00:11:56,040 There's not a lot of ubiquity 333 00:11:56,040 --> 00:11:57,900 in their different brand lines 334 00:11:57,900 --> 00:11:59,040 or their different product lines. 335 00:11:59,040 --> 00:12:00,150 But, I think it's super cool, 336 00:12:00,150 --> 00:12:01,998 because it's so creative. 337 00:12:01,998 --> 00:12:02,831 - Super creative. - But, it's... 338 00:12:02,831 --> 00:12:05,430 It's hard to classify like families of these cigars, 339 00:12:05,430 --> 00:12:06,783 because they're... 340 00:12:06,783 --> 00:12:07,616 A lot of them seem to be, 341 00:12:07,616 --> 00:12:09,120 I don't wanna use the term one-off, 342 00:12:09,120 --> 00:12:11,250 but they're sort of standalone. 343 00:12:11,250 --> 00:12:13,620 - That's a great question to everyone out there is like, 344 00:12:13,620 --> 00:12:18,620 do you even like cigars that are, 345 00:12:18,930 --> 00:12:19,763 let's just say, 346 00:12:19,763 --> 00:12:21,750 let's take the Lost & Found for instance. 347 00:12:21,750 --> 00:12:22,980 Do you like that or not? 348 00:12:22,980 --> 00:12:25,026 I personally like it. 349 00:12:25,026 --> 00:12:25,914 - I do, too. 350 00:12:25,914 --> 00:12:27,210 - Because, I get to try something 351 00:12:27,210 --> 00:12:30,783 probably that punches way above it's price point, 352 00:12:32,430 --> 00:12:35,910 and no one else is going to do anything with that tobacco, 353 00:12:35,910 --> 00:12:37,530 because it's so limited. 354 00:12:37,530 --> 00:12:38,363 - Wait, you... 355 00:12:38,363 --> 00:12:41,069 - But, then it negates the fact that I'm like, 356 00:12:41,069 --> 00:12:41,902 oh, I really like. 357 00:12:41,902 --> 00:12:42,735 - I know. 358 00:12:42,735 --> 00:12:43,568 - Can I buy a box? 359 00:12:43,568 --> 00:12:44,401 Probably not. 360 00:12:44,401 --> 00:12:45,390 - And, you get to the end of a cigar, 361 00:12:45,390 --> 00:12:48,480 like those Lost & Found antique selections, 362 00:12:48,480 --> 00:12:50,040 which you and I were both fortunate enough 363 00:12:50,040 --> 00:12:51,740 to smoke through a bunch of those, 364 00:12:52,710 --> 00:12:54,390 and you get partway through the cigar, 365 00:12:54,390 --> 00:12:58,350 and you think I better like consciously think about 366 00:12:58,350 --> 00:12:59,490 enjoying all of this, 367 00:12:59,490 --> 00:13:01,980 because I'm not getting this again. 368 00:13:01,980 --> 00:13:02,813 So, you want to like... 369 00:13:02,813 --> 00:13:04,560 You wanna make sure you remember what that tasted like. 370 00:13:04,560 --> 00:13:06,780 - We got that in our... 371 00:13:06,780 --> 00:13:07,683 My Cigar Pack. 372 00:13:10,050 --> 00:13:14,760 That was super, super nice to try all those cigars. 373 00:13:14,760 --> 00:13:16,200 And, what Tony said about those cigars 374 00:13:16,200 --> 00:13:18,300 is as the Antique Line 375 00:13:18,300 --> 00:13:23,160 is the year that the cigar was rolled 376 00:13:23,160 --> 00:13:25,080 is what was on the band. 377 00:13:25,080 --> 00:13:27,750 So, not the age of the cigar necessarily. 378 00:13:27,750 --> 00:13:30,030 Like the tobaccos might be even way older. 379 00:13:30,030 --> 00:13:32,280 So, like some of those had like 2003. 380 00:13:32,280 --> 00:13:33,113 - Yeah. 381 00:13:33,113 --> 00:13:34,472 - Like... 382 00:13:34,472 --> 00:13:37,361 - 2012, 2014, early 2000s. 383 00:13:37,361 --> 00:13:38,194 - That's a 20-year-old stick. 384 00:13:38,194 --> 00:13:41,700 - Stick, but the tobacco is much older than that, yeah. 385 00:13:41,700 --> 00:13:42,720 - I don't... 386 00:13:42,720 --> 00:13:43,650 That's... 387 00:13:43,650 --> 00:13:46,680 So, there's a give and take there. 388 00:13:46,680 --> 00:13:48,030 It's like, oh, really cool, 389 00:13:48,030 --> 00:13:49,830 a opportunity to try something, 390 00:13:49,830 --> 00:13:51,780 and then it's also like, dang it, 391 00:13:51,780 --> 00:13:52,950 I really like it. 392 00:13:52,950 --> 00:13:53,790 Can I get more? 393 00:13:53,790 --> 00:13:55,050 No. - No. 394 00:13:55,050 --> 00:13:57,510 - So, that's why I say it has to finish with the Gone. 395 00:13:57,510 --> 00:13:58,904 - Yes. 396 00:13:58,904 --> 00:13:59,737 - Lost, Found, 397 00:13:59,737 --> 00:14:01,140 Gone. - Gone. 398 00:14:01,140 --> 00:14:03,000 - See ya, not coming back. 399 00:14:03,000 --> 00:14:03,833 - Goodbye. 400 00:14:03,833 --> 00:14:05,130 - But, it is... 401 00:14:05,130 --> 00:14:06,570 When we were just talking to Tony, 402 00:14:06,570 --> 00:14:07,893 the Lost & Found series 403 00:14:07,893 --> 00:14:09,543 he's said was kind of, 404 00:14:10,440 --> 00:14:13,158 it's pretty much done. 405 00:14:13,158 --> 00:14:14,430 There's not like a ton of tobacco 406 00:14:14,430 --> 00:14:16,890 or cigars sitting around anymore. 407 00:14:16,890 --> 00:14:20,010 What they're gonna do now is roll cigars 408 00:14:20,010 --> 00:14:22,260 with aged tobacco that's just sitting around, 409 00:14:22,260 --> 00:14:26,310 and doesn't have a lot of play in major cigar brands. 410 00:14:26,310 --> 00:14:27,840 And, then they're gonna make cigars 411 00:14:27,840 --> 00:14:30,630 just like these 22 Minutes to Midnight. 412 00:14:30,630 --> 00:14:34,320 So, this is pretty much the the new launch. 413 00:14:34,320 --> 00:14:35,153 - Yeah, which is a cool idea. 414 00:14:35,153 --> 00:14:36,455 - Yeah, amazing. 415 00:14:36,455 --> 00:14:37,288 - Because, they're... 416 00:14:37,288 --> 00:14:38,121 They're... 417 00:14:38,121 --> 00:14:40,371 I got to imagine tobacco producers or brokers 418 00:14:43,110 --> 00:14:47,700 have lots of tobacco that could make a few thousand boxes. 419 00:14:47,700 --> 00:14:51,720 And, those are prime territory for smaller producers, 420 00:14:51,720 --> 00:14:53,340 because they're able to do lots like that 421 00:14:53,340 --> 00:14:55,260 and do a limited run of cigars, 422 00:14:55,260 --> 00:14:56,880 which I think is really cool, 423 00:14:56,880 --> 00:14:58,440 but a Fuente and a Davidoff, 424 00:14:58,440 --> 00:15:00,000 they're not gonna do that, 425 00:15:00,000 --> 00:15:02,580 unless they're just putting out a very limited cigar. 426 00:15:02,580 --> 00:15:03,630 They just aren't gonna do that. 427 00:15:03,630 --> 00:15:05,130 They're not gonna take a run with that. 428 00:15:05,130 --> 00:15:09,483 - You and I smoked the $500 Davidoff Oro Blanco. 429 00:15:10,740 --> 00:15:12,210 Extremely unique stick. 430 00:15:12,210 --> 00:15:13,410 - Yes. 431 00:15:13,410 --> 00:15:15,480 - You can already tell with, 432 00:15:15,480 --> 00:15:16,890 not that this is anywhere close to that, 433 00:15:16,890 --> 00:15:19,170 but you can start to tell refinement 434 00:15:19,170 --> 00:15:22,710 out of tobacco, aged tobacco, 435 00:15:22,710 --> 00:15:24,090 and I can tell right here 436 00:15:24,090 --> 00:15:28,410 like between the Blind Man's Bluff and these, 437 00:15:28,410 --> 00:15:31,230 there's a different set of refinement. 438 00:15:31,230 --> 00:15:33,660 So, I am able to taste a difference in quality. 439 00:15:33,660 --> 00:15:36,690 What I like about this one though in particular 440 00:15:36,690 --> 00:15:41,690 is the quality and refinement is much more muted. 441 00:15:42,990 --> 00:15:46,080 Like you can really jump between them 442 00:15:46,080 --> 00:15:48,030 and not be like, whoa-- 443 00:15:48,030 --> 00:15:48,863 - Absolutely. 444 00:15:48,863 --> 00:15:49,696 - When we did the video of like, 445 00:15:49,696 --> 00:15:51,084 Can You Taste Quality in a Cigar? 446 00:15:51,084 --> 00:15:51,917 - Yes. 447 00:15:51,917 --> 00:15:56,520 - That Alfonso like hung out on its own on an island. 448 00:15:56,520 --> 00:15:59,190 I was like these cigars out can't even touch it, 449 00:15:59,190 --> 00:16:00,720 which I think is unique here, 450 00:16:00,720 --> 00:16:05,720 where I'm that Blind Man's Puff is approaching this, 451 00:16:06,803 --> 00:16:08,583 hands down, very easily. 452 00:16:10,560 --> 00:16:12,910 - Yeah, like I've noticed in these four cigars, 453 00:16:13,980 --> 00:16:14,970 of the four, 454 00:16:14,970 --> 00:16:16,593 the Blind Man's Bluff Maduro, 455 00:16:18,090 --> 00:16:19,950 really the only difference I'm getting 456 00:16:19,950 --> 00:16:21,679 between the other three 457 00:16:21,679 --> 00:16:24,600 is it's got just a little more kind of pepperiness 458 00:16:24,600 --> 00:16:26,043 sharpness on the retro hale, 459 00:16:27,330 --> 00:16:28,380 and then this would be next, 460 00:16:28,380 --> 00:16:30,600 and then these two are just really soft and creamy 461 00:16:30,600 --> 00:16:32,275 on the retro hale. 462 00:16:32,275 --> 00:16:33,150 Like there's just none of that pepperiness, 463 00:16:33,150 --> 00:16:34,800 none of that burn, 464 00:16:34,800 --> 00:16:36,960 just really beautiful cigars. 465 00:16:36,960 --> 00:16:40,320 But, all four of these have this like underlying creaminess 466 00:16:40,320 --> 00:16:42,060 that just all plays well together. 467 00:16:42,060 --> 00:16:46,590 It'd be like having four different versions of, 468 00:16:46,590 --> 00:16:47,423 I don't know, 469 00:16:47,423 --> 00:16:50,250 like a latte or coffee. 470 00:16:50,250 --> 00:16:51,083 Maybe... - Right. 471 00:16:51,083 --> 00:16:54,630 - Maybe, these are just coffee with more or less cream. 472 00:16:54,630 --> 00:16:56,010 One might be a little stronger coffee, 473 00:16:56,010 --> 00:16:57,840 one might be a little bit more mellow, 474 00:16:57,840 --> 00:17:00,330 and these are like a beautiful, I don't know, 475 00:17:00,330 --> 00:17:02,730 cappuccino or latte, 476 00:17:02,730 --> 00:17:05,370 that's gonna have that just really soft creaminess 477 00:17:05,370 --> 00:17:07,220 that everything just blends together. 478 00:17:08,400 --> 00:17:09,233 - You're talking about 479 00:17:09,233 --> 00:17:11,130 the 22 Minutes to Midnight? - The 22 Minutes to Midnight. 480 00:17:11,130 --> 00:17:12,061 Yeah. 481 00:17:12,061 --> 00:17:12,894 - Yeah, yeah-- 482 00:17:12,894 --> 00:17:15,150 - Tony made a great point in talking about age. 483 00:17:15,150 --> 00:17:17,283 Age doesn't always mean better, 484 00:17:18,210 --> 00:17:20,550 because in a lot of things that people consume 485 00:17:20,550 --> 00:17:21,930 with significant age on them, 486 00:17:21,930 --> 00:17:25,050 cigars, wine specifically, 487 00:17:25,050 --> 00:17:25,953 spirits, 488 00:17:26,790 --> 00:17:30,993 there is a point at which, at a certain age, 489 00:17:31,980 --> 00:17:34,650 the flavors start to drop off and you get more muted, 490 00:17:34,650 --> 00:17:35,570 kind of... 491 00:17:36,810 --> 00:17:40,890 He used a great description like musty, smell of a basement, 492 00:17:40,890 --> 00:17:43,560 kind of earthy, minerally, 493 00:17:43,560 --> 00:17:47,190 chalky flavors that are just kind of muted, 494 00:17:47,190 --> 00:17:48,900 and, but if you get it at the age 495 00:17:48,900 --> 00:17:50,460 where everything has really come together, 496 00:17:50,460 --> 00:17:51,693 then it's spectacular. 497 00:17:52,680 --> 00:17:57,420 - Yeah, that Blind Man's Bluff Maduro is sharp on the retro. 498 00:17:57,420 --> 00:18:00,390 - It's so hard to not say Blind Man's Puff. 499 00:18:00,390 --> 00:18:01,223 - Yeah, man. 500 00:18:01,223 --> 00:18:03,870 I'm struggling really hard over here. 501 00:18:03,870 --> 00:18:07,429 Blind Man's Bluff. - Bluff. 502 00:18:07,429 --> 00:18:08,640 Bluff. 503 00:18:08,640 --> 00:18:10,174 The BMB. 504 00:18:10,174 --> 00:18:14,100 - And, it must be because of the Blind Man's Puff website. 505 00:18:14,100 --> 00:18:15,210 - Yes, of course. 506 00:18:15,210 --> 00:18:16,043 Of course. 507 00:18:16,043 --> 00:18:16,876 The... 508 00:18:17,850 --> 00:18:19,140 - Now, we're smoking four cigars. 509 00:18:19,140 --> 00:18:22,023 It's hard to keep them all lit and straight in my head. 510 00:18:27,150 --> 00:18:29,830 Just went from the Habano Blind Man 511 00:18:31,410 --> 00:18:35,254 to the 22 Minutes to Midnight Habano. 512 00:18:35,254 --> 00:18:36,363 Ugh, that's good. 513 00:18:37,200 --> 00:18:40,014 It's funny how they don't compete with each other. 514 00:18:40,014 --> 00:18:40,847 - No. 515 00:18:40,847 --> 00:18:41,680 - Which we've experienced before, 516 00:18:41,680 --> 00:18:42,513 where it's like, okay, 517 00:18:42,513 --> 00:18:43,623 one is more harsh, 518 00:18:44,670 --> 00:18:47,305 more astringent, maybe. 519 00:18:47,305 --> 00:18:49,230 - These are like an all nice round flavor. 520 00:18:49,230 --> 00:18:50,063 - Yeah. 521 00:18:51,750 --> 00:18:54,993 I think of the two Blind Man's Bluffs, 522 00:18:56,683 --> 00:18:57,870 I always gravitate towards the Habano, 523 00:18:57,870 --> 00:19:00,420 but I think it's nostalgic for me. 524 00:19:00,420 --> 00:19:01,500 - The Maduro 525 00:19:01,500 --> 00:19:02,940 or the Habano is nostalgic? - The Habano. 526 00:19:02,940 --> 00:19:04,410 - Yeah. 527 00:19:04,410 --> 00:19:06,090 It was like one of the first cigars I picked up, 528 00:19:06,090 --> 00:19:08,610 but I was like, oh my God this is really good. 529 00:19:08,610 --> 00:19:10,350 - I remember the first time I had a Caldwell cigar 530 00:19:10,350 --> 00:19:12,810 was from James down at Burn. 531 00:19:12,810 --> 00:19:13,650 - Sure. 532 00:19:13,650 --> 00:19:14,940 - Yeah, he was the one that introduced me 533 00:19:14,940 --> 00:19:16,170 to Caldwell Cigars. 534 00:19:16,170 --> 00:19:18,690 This would've been, boy, 535 00:19:18,690 --> 00:19:20,760 probably close to 10 years ago now. 536 00:19:20,760 --> 00:19:22,773 - Do you remember which one you smoked? 537 00:19:22,773 --> 00:19:24,600 - Blind Man's Bluff was the first one. 538 00:19:24,600 --> 00:19:25,433 - Which... 539 00:19:25,433 --> 00:19:26,266 Which one? 540 00:19:27,450 --> 00:19:30,300 - Boy, that I don't remember. 541 00:19:30,300 --> 00:19:32,580 I do know I also had the Eastern Standard, 542 00:19:32,580 --> 00:19:34,890 which I just smoked one of those yesterday. 543 00:19:34,890 --> 00:19:36,063 Another great cigar. 544 00:19:38,790 --> 00:19:40,290 The Eastern Standard was like, 545 00:19:40,290 --> 00:19:43,230 I'll often say if a cigar is like perfumy, 546 00:19:43,230 --> 00:19:45,750 I'll say it tastes like a good cologne or a good fragrance. 547 00:19:45,750 --> 00:19:48,000 And, that Eastern Standard has a lot of that, 548 00:19:49,256 --> 00:19:52,085 because fragrances will have woody notes, 549 00:19:52,085 --> 00:19:53,130 they'll have earthy notes, 550 00:19:53,130 --> 00:19:53,963 they'll have vegetal notes, 551 00:19:53,963 --> 00:19:56,610 they kind of get all these different layers. 552 00:19:56,610 --> 00:20:00,783 - The 22 Minutes to Midnight Habano, 553 00:20:02,954 --> 00:20:05,370 that one is very creamy. 554 00:20:05,370 --> 00:20:09,090 They don't even disclose any of the-- 555 00:20:09,090 --> 00:20:11,310 - No, I had to go into a couple of retailers 556 00:20:11,310 --> 00:20:13,740 to see what their flavor descriptions were. 557 00:20:13,740 --> 00:20:14,573 - Yeah? 558 00:20:14,573 --> 00:20:18,480 - And, both of these were like a couple that I read, 559 00:20:18,480 --> 00:20:23,480 this was like dark chocolate, cream, coffee. 560 00:20:23,670 --> 00:20:25,500 This one's like cream, nougat, 561 00:20:25,500 --> 00:20:26,493 even marshmallow. 562 00:20:27,420 --> 00:20:28,253 - The Habano? 563 00:20:28,253 --> 00:20:29,086 - The Habano, yeah. 564 00:20:29,086 --> 00:20:30,540 - The Maduro's more chocolatey. 565 00:20:30,540 --> 00:20:31,500 - Which makes sense. 566 00:20:31,500 --> 00:20:32,730 - They're both really good though. 567 00:20:32,730 --> 00:20:34,010 - And, especially because this... 568 00:20:34,010 --> 00:20:37,230 Especially, because this is San Andreas, 569 00:20:37,230 --> 00:20:38,820 I often think San Andreas has a lot of 570 00:20:38,820 --> 00:20:40,023 chocolatey notes to it. 571 00:20:42,900 --> 00:20:44,220 - For whatever reason, 572 00:20:44,220 --> 00:20:47,610 I pegged San Andreas with being more strength 573 00:20:47,610 --> 00:20:49,290 and I don't know why that is. 574 00:20:49,290 --> 00:20:50,755 - It's funny, 575 00:20:50,755 --> 00:20:53,190 because I would say I don't get strength from San Andreas, 576 00:20:53,190 --> 00:20:54,180 but I do... 577 00:20:54,180 --> 00:20:55,830 I do say that about Broadleaf, 578 00:20:55,830 --> 00:20:58,140 which is the Blind Man's Bluff Maduro, correct? 579 00:20:58,140 --> 00:20:59,220 - Sure, yeah. 580 00:20:59,220 --> 00:21:01,134 - I generally think if it's Broadleaf, 581 00:21:01,134 --> 00:21:02,442 it's gonna have a more punch, 582 00:21:02,442 --> 00:21:07,442 a little more of that dark coffee, dark chocolate, 583 00:21:07,920 --> 00:21:09,003 more robust, 584 00:21:10,440 --> 00:21:12,393 dare I say, smokey flavors. 585 00:21:13,410 --> 00:21:14,490 - I definitely was getting-- 586 00:21:14,490 --> 00:21:15,510 - Taste like tobacco... 587 00:21:15,510 --> 00:21:17,970 - Yeah, I was definitely getting a smokey, 588 00:21:17,970 --> 00:21:19,950 almost like fire cured out of Maduro. 589 00:21:19,950 --> 00:21:20,823 - You don't say? 590 00:21:21,840 --> 00:21:22,673 Wow. 591 00:21:27,240 --> 00:21:28,560 Did you say fire cured? 592 00:21:28,560 --> 00:21:29,393 - Kind of like a... 593 00:21:29,393 --> 00:21:32,130 - And, I think that sometimes about Broadleaf. 594 00:21:32,130 --> 00:21:35,760 - Yeah, because it's Pennsylvania. 595 00:21:35,760 --> 00:21:36,780 - Yep. 596 00:21:36,780 --> 00:21:40,050 Almost sometimes that like Latakia Pipe Tobacco 597 00:21:40,050 --> 00:21:41,820 kind of notes, 598 00:21:41,820 --> 00:21:42,653 which is a... 599 00:21:42,653 --> 00:21:44,801 If you've never smelled Latakia, 600 00:21:44,801 --> 00:21:45,634 it's a... 601 00:21:45,634 --> 00:21:48,600 It's an immediately recognizable scent amongst tobaccos. 602 00:21:48,600 --> 00:21:51,240 I particularly really, really like it. 603 00:21:51,240 --> 00:21:53,209 It's why I like Laphroaig. 604 00:21:53,209 --> 00:21:55,830 - There's certain people that like smoke that on its own. 605 00:21:55,830 --> 00:21:57,274 And, I-- 606 00:21:57,274 --> 00:21:58,107 - Oh, I've met a couple. 607 00:21:58,107 --> 00:21:58,940 - When I worked at the smoke shop, 608 00:21:58,940 --> 00:22:01,380 I was like, you just want Latakia? 609 00:22:01,380 --> 00:22:02,940 You don't want me to mix that with anything? 610 00:22:02,940 --> 00:22:03,773 He is like, yeah, 611 00:22:03,773 --> 00:22:04,980 no, just the Latakia. 612 00:22:04,980 --> 00:22:06,120 And, then he would pack his... 613 00:22:06,120 --> 00:22:07,440 - You feel like they all have to say it that way. 614 00:22:07,440 --> 00:22:08,848 Yeah, I just really want that Latakia. 615 00:22:08,848 --> 00:22:09,681 - Yeah, I just want... 616 00:22:09,681 --> 00:22:10,514 Yes. 617 00:22:10,514 --> 00:22:11,347 - Are you sure? 618 00:22:11,347 --> 00:22:12,180 Yeah. 619 00:22:12,180 --> 00:22:13,260 - Stop questioning me, you young stupid kid. 620 00:22:13,260 --> 00:22:14,310 - The heck is wrong with you, man. 621 00:22:14,310 --> 00:22:15,330 - And, then... 622 00:22:15,330 --> 00:22:16,163 - Go. 623 00:22:16,163 --> 00:22:19,200 - He would pack his bowl and light it up and I'm like okay. 624 00:22:19,200 --> 00:22:20,033 Alrighty, then. 625 00:22:20,033 --> 00:22:21,810 - You feel like they'll look at you and say... 626 00:22:21,810 --> 00:22:24,300 - Tina, you fat lard, come get some dinner. 627 00:22:24,300 --> 00:22:25,890 - Holy cow. 628 00:22:25,890 --> 00:22:27,300 The whole... 629 00:22:27,300 --> 00:22:28,779 - You can just smell-- 630 00:22:28,779 --> 00:22:29,612 - A little Napoleon Dynamite 631 00:22:29,612 --> 00:22:31,890 and he dumps the whole tray of food over for the... 632 00:22:31,890 --> 00:22:34,170 Was Tina a llama, if I remember right? 633 00:22:34,170 --> 00:22:35,974 - Tina, eat. 634 00:22:35,974 --> 00:22:37,057 Eat the food. 635 00:22:38,385 --> 00:22:39,990 Eat the food. 636 00:22:39,990 --> 00:22:41,526 - Speaking of Broadleaf, 637 00:22:41,526 --> 00:22:42,510 it's so interesting to me that both of those plants 638 00:22:42,510 --> 00:22:45,260 are grown predominantly in the Connecticut River Valley 639 00:22:46,140 --> 00:22:49,560 and one is super light, and delicate, and thin, 640 00:22:49,560 --> 00:22:52,020 and the other is like a chunky bush, 641 00:22:52,020 --> 00:22:53,010 and super robust, 642 00:22:53,010 --> 00:22:55,020 and like thick, strong leaves. 643 00:22:55,020 --> 00:22:56,943 - Yeah, Broadleaf leaves. 644 00:22:59,040 --> 00:23:02,400 So, I'm totally enjoying all of these, 645 00:23:02,400 --> 00:23:03,233 100%. 646 00:23:03,233 --> 00:23:05,070 - I absolutely agree. 647 00:23:05,070 --> 00:23:06,049 - It's really hard-- 648 00:23:06,049 --> 00:23:06,882 - All four are fantastic. 649 00:23:06,882 --> 00:23:10,560 - Really hard for me to say like, I don't know, 650 00:23:10,560 --> 00:23:11,940 sometimes I try to pick like a winner, 651 00:23:11,940 --> 00:23:13,530 like one that I gravitate towards, 652 00:23:13,530 --> 00:23:16,020 but I really can't. 653 00:23:16,020 --> 00:23:18,840 - Honestly, of the Big Brother, Little Brothers 654 00:23:18,840 --> 00:23:20,193 we've done so far, 655 00:23:21,180 --> 00:23:23,190 I would say these four cigars 656 00:23:23,190 --> 00:23:28,190 are ones that I would absolutely choose either option, 657 00:23:28,620 --> 00:23:30,330 any of these options, 658 00:23:30,330 --> 00:23:31,530 any time of day, 659 00:23:31,530 --> 00:23:33,570 and I'd be very happy. 660 00:23:33,570 --> 00:23:35,190 So, if you want a brand 661 00:23:35,190 --> 00:23:36,630 and a sort of Big Brother, 662 00:23:36,630 --> 00:23:37,463 Little Brother, 663 00:23:37,463 --> 00:23:38,350 if we can make it that, 664 00:23:39,210 --> 00:23:40,590 where you're really getting bang for buck 665 00:23:40,590 --> 00:23:41,700 on the Little Brother, 666 00:23:41,700 --> 00:23:43,140 this would be one of them. 667 00:23:43,140 --> 00:23:43,973 - Huge. 668 00:23:43,973 --> 00:23:45,390 - Huge. 669 00:23:45,390 --> 00:23:46,470 - Huge bang for buck. 670 00:23:46,470 --> 00:23:48,180 Now, I need to go try the other ones 671 00:23:48,180 --> 00:23:50,580 in the Blind Man's Bluff category, 672 00:23:50,580 --> 00:23:53,950 because I've clearly been sleeping on those 673 00:23:54,900 --> 00:23:55,733 way too long. 674 00:23:57,180 --> 00:23:59,520 - Let's get on the horn and order some boxes. 675 00:23:59,520 --> 00:24:01,082 - Yeah. 676 00:24:01,082 --> 00:24:01,915 Yes, please. 677 00:24:01,915 --> 00:24:05,880 And, again, the Lost & Found series is a total blast. 678 00:24:05,880 --> 00:24:07,530 I'm looking at their-- 679 00:24:07,530 --> 00:24:10,290 - We're gonna call our finance department today and go, 680 00:24:10,290 --> 00:24:15,060 don't throw up if you see the credit card bill for today. 681 00:24:15,060 --> 00:24:18,522 - Yeah, they got the Instant Classic, 682 00:24:18,522 --> 00:24:19,613 the Pepper Cream Soda, 683 00:24:21,600 --> 00:24:23,460 and Just the Tip. 684 00:24:23,460 --> 00:24:24,293 - I have... 685 00:24:24,293 --> 00:24:25,126 I've had Just the Tip. 686 00:24:26,010 --> 00:24:28,293 - 15 Minutes, 15 Minutes of Fame? 687 00:24:31,230 --> 00:24:33,633 - I am a child and I don't care. 688 00:24:34,980 --> 00:24:35,813 - What is this-- 689 00:24:35,813 --> 00:24:37,350 - But, I have not had the... 690 00:24:37,350 --> 00:24:39,650 Excuse me, I've not had the Pepper Cream Soda. 691 00:24:40,860 --> 00:24:42,450 Oh, that's the new Nightstand. 692 00:24:42,450 --> 00:24:43,283 Have you ever had those? 693 00:24:43,283 --> 00:24:44,470 - No. 694 00:24:44,470 --> 00:24:45,540 - I've had previous versions of the Night Stand, 695 00:24:45,540 --> 00:24:46,840 but I've not had this one. 696 00:24:48,060 --> 00:24:49,113 - So interesting. 697 00:24:50,370 --> 00:24:53,340 I'm assuming now they're just basically recreating 698 00:24:53,340 --> 00:24:56,880 the Pepper Cream Soda in all these, 699 00:24:56,880 --> 00:24:58,260 like the Instant Classic, 700 00:24:58,260 --> 00:24:59,790 all the good ones, 701 00:24:59,790 --> 00:25:01,540 which was funny, like you had said, 702 00:25:02,949 --> 00:25:06,783 Tony talked about smoking some cigars that were lost. 703 00:25:08,436 --> 00:25:11,370 They found him and then they said, no go. 704 00:25:11,370 --> 00:25:12,930 Like too far gone. 705 00:25:12,930 --> 00:25:13,920 - Too far gone, yeah. 706 00:25:13,920 --> 00:25:14,753 - Which I... 707 00:25:14,753 --> 00:25:16,560 I totally understand. 708 00:25:16,560 --> 00:25:18,210 But, I wonder if, 709 00:25:18,210 --> 00:25:19,893 we think of it as a bell curve, 710 00:25:21,000 --> 00:25:23,525 but I wonder if it's more of like a wave. 711 00:25:23,525 --> 00:25:24,510 Would it come back? 712 00:25:24,510 --> 00:25:26,850 Would it come back and be better? 713 00:25:26,850 --> 00:25:28,260 - I suppose it's possible. 714 00:25:28,260 --> 00:25:29,460 - I have no idea. 715 00:25:29,460 --> 00:25:30,780 - But, my guess would be no, 716 00:25:30,780 --> 00:25:32,180 but I suppose it's possible. 717 00:25:33,750 --> 00:25:34,590 - He did say though, 718 00:25:34,590 --> 00:25:38,040 like you know that funky basement, stale, 719 00:25:38,040 --> 00:25:39,270 kind of grassy... 720 00:25:39,270 --> 00:25:40,320 - Grandma's basement. 721 00:25:40,320 --> 00:25:41,250 - Yeah, grandma's basement. 722 00:25:41,250 --> 00:25:42,083 - That's what I'm... 723 00:25:42,083 --> 00:25:43,386 I'm remembering that one. 724 00:25:43,386 --> 00:25:44,832 - It's really hard to get away from that. 725 00:25:44,832 --> 00:25:45,665 As soon as that creeps in... 726 00:25:45,665 --> 00:25:47,061 - Absolutely. 727 00:25:47,061 --> 00:25:48,782 And, I have such strong memories 728 00:25:48,782 --> 00:25:50,070 of that like idea of grandma's basement, 729 00:25:50,070 --> 00:25:52,500 because I grew up with a very large extended family 730 00:25:52,500 --> 00:25:55,650 that all lived in the Minneapolis St. Paul area, 731 00:25:55,650 --> 00:25:59,970 and in the 60s, 70s and 80s 732 00:25:59,970 --> 00:26:01,800 they all had small homes, 733 00:26:01,800 --> 00:26:03,750 but fairly good sized families. 734 00:26:03,750 --> 00:26:06,120 So, when we'd all get together for a big Christmas party, 735 00:26:06,120 --> 00:26:08,310 we'd have sometimes, I don't know, 736 00:26:08,310 --> 00:26:11,310 close to a 100 people in a tiny house, 737 00:26:11,310 --> 00:26:13,110 and all of us kids would end up in the basement, 738 00:26:13,110 --> 00:26:15,600 because one of the great aunts always had like 739 00:26:15,600 --> 00:26:18,210 one of those stationary bikes. 740 00:26:18,210 --> 00:26:20,940 And, I remember distinctly one had the stationary bike 741 00:26:20,940 --> 00:26:22,590 that the pedals would keep turning 742 00:26:22,590 --> 00:26:23,880 once you got it going, 743 00:26:23,880 --> 00:26:25,980 so you'd put all your weight on one pedal 744 00:26:25,980 --> 00:26:28,180 and just bounce up and down like a crazy-- 745 00:26:28,180 --> 00:26:29,013 - Stand on it. 746 00:26:29,013 --> 00:26:30,630 - Yes, like a crazy idiot. 747 00:26:30,630 --> 00:26:33,623 Grandma's basement is a very distinct memory for me. 748 00:26:33,623 --> 00:26:35,610 - See and then see if you can get two people on each pedal 749 00:26:35,610 --> 00:26:36,443 going up and down. 750 00:26:36,443 --> 00:26:37,572 - And, those memory-- 751 00:26:37,572 --> 00:26:38,405 - Two people riding the bike. 752 00:26:38,405 --> 00:26:39,390 - Yeah, and those memories for me are great, 753 00:26:39,390 --> 00:26:41,460 because I think nowadays 754 00:26:41,460 --> 00:26:43,050 we think we have to have these huge houses 755 00:26:43,050 --> 00:26:45,030 in order to like host a lot of people. 756 00:26:45,030 --> 00:26:47,064 You absolutely do not. 757 00:26:47,064 --> 00:26:48,660 In fact, the best parties that you ever go to 758 00:26:48,660 --> 00:26:50,250 are in the tiniest places, 759 00:26:50,250 --> 00:26:52,290 because everyone always ends up in the kitchen, 760 00:26:52,290 --> 00:26:53,910 wherever the food is. 761 00:26:53,910 --> 00:26:56,370 Nobody ends up in the great room. 762 00:26:56,370 --> 00:26:58,200 And, nobody cares about the finished basement, 763 00:26:58,200 --> 00:27:00,210 because it's cold and empty. 764 00:27:00,210 --> 00:27:01,530 And, unless the whole party's there 765 00:27:01,530 --> 00:27:03,180 and there's like a lot of entertainment, 766 00:27:03,180 --> 00:27:05,400 you'd rather be where all the people are. 767 00:27:05,400 --> 00:27:09,120 And, so those tiny little houses are really nice, 768 00:27:09,120 --> 00:27:10,920 warming memories for me, 769 00:27:10,920 --> 00:27:14,340 because that was the idea of home, 770 00:27:14,340 --> 00:27:17,223 and all of them were unfinished basements for sure. 771 00:27:18,210 --> 00:27:20,910 And, they all had those like woven braided rugs 772 00:27:20,910 --> 00:27:24,360 that were like eponymous in Midwestern Scandinavian homes 773 00:27:24,360 --> 00:27:26,610 that got passed down to the kids. 774 00:27:26,610 --> 00:27:27,443 Yeah, they're... 775 00:27:27,443 --> 00:27:28,920 It's just great memories 776 00:27:28,920 --> 00:27:30,540 and tiny little couches. 777 00:27:30,540 --> 00:27:33,480 In fact, my grandma used to always call one of her couches 778 00:27:33,480 --> 00:27:34,710 the davenport. 779 00:27:34,710 --> 00:27:36,060 I have no idea where that term came from, 780 00:27:36,060 --> 00:27:38,100 but it wasn't a couch or a sofa. 781 00:27:38,100 --> 00:27:39,033 The davenport. 782 00:27:39,960 --> 00:27:41,887 Where the heck did that name come from? 783 00:27:41,887 --> 00:27:43,997 - I don't know, but it's definitely old school. 784 00:27:43,997 --> 00:27:44,830 - Do you wanna sit in the davenport? 785 00:27:44,830 --> 00:27:46,170 No, this couch is not very comfortable. 786 00:27:47,370 --> 00:27:48,390 - Did you have a grandmother 787 00:27:48,390 --> 00:27:50,010 that put plastic on the couch at all? 788 00:27:50,010 --> 00:27:51,450 - Thank, God, no. 789 00:27:51,450 --> 00:27:52,283 - I did. 790 00:27:52,283 --> 00:27:53,116 - I had neighbors that had that. 791 00:27:53,116 --> 00:27:54,240 - I did. 792 00:27:54,240 --> 00:27:56,940 I had a grandma that put plastic on the couch. 793 00:27:56,940 --> 00:27:58,860 Boy, that thing looked good for a long time. 794 00:27:58,860 --> 00:27:59,693 - Sure, it did. 795 00:28:00,684 --> 00:28:01,530 And, the plastic was gnarly. 796 00:28:01,530 --> 00:28:03,540 Like I had a neighbor that had plastic on the furniture 797 00:28:03,540 --> 00:28:06,210 and they were smokers, cigarette smokers. 798 00:28:06,210 --> 00:28:07,650 And, it was orange. 799 00:28:07,650 --> 00:28:09,243 Oh, it was so gross. 800 00:28:10,140 --> 00:28:11,010 Height of summer 801 00:28:11,010 --> 00:28:13,650 and you're just glued to that freaking couch. 802 00:28:13,650 --> 00:28:14,500 You're like, ugh. 803 00:28:16,410 --> 00:28:17,280 - You know what? 804 00:28:17,280 --> 00:28:18,450 To be honest though, 805 00:28:18,450 --> 00:28:21,060 I just don't see the point. 806 00:28:21,060 --> 00:28:23,010 What's the point of putting the plastic on there? 807 00:28:23,010 --> 00:28:24,240 You gotta look at that every day. 808 00:28:24,240 --> 00:28:25,440 It looks ugly. 809 00:28:25,440 --> 00:28:28,713 - It's like how should I have a formal dining room. 810 00:28:29,610 --> 00:28:30,443 - Yeah. 811 00:28:30,443 --> 00:28:32,730 - What a useless thing to have in a house, 812 00:28:32,730 --> 00:28:36,368 like we have this one room that nobody can go in, 813 00:28:36,368 --> 00:28:38,907 because you have all the fine China and all the fancy stuff, 814 00:28:38,907 --> 00:28:40,701 and you maybe have dinner there, what? 815 00:28:40,701 --> 00:28:42,030 Christmas and Easter maybe? 816 00:28:42,030 --> 00:28:42,863 - And, Thanksgiving. 817 00:28:42,863 --> 00:28:43,696 - Nobody wants to touch... 818 00:28:43,696 --> 00:28:45,783 Like, don't you dare lean back in a chair. 819 00:28:46,770 --> 00:28:47,610 Ugh. 820 00:28:47,610 --> 00:28:49,010 - No, thank you. - So dumb. 821 00:28:50,070 --> 00:28:54,255 But, as they say, to each their own. 822 00:28:54,255 --> 00:28:55,200 - Right, yeah. 823 00:28:55,200 --> 00:28:56,250 Whatever. 824 00:28:56,250 --> 00:28:58,620 - I would rather have a nice small, comfortable home 825 00:28:58,620 --> 00:29:00,970 and be able to spend money on cigars like this, 826 00:29:02,280 --> 00:29:06,633 than to have all my money tied up in a bunch of stuff. 827 00:29:07,500 --> 00:29:08,520 That's just me. 828 00:29:08,520 --> 00:29:09,960 - Yeah, and you're so... 829 00:29:09,960 --> 00:29:11,820 What was funny too is when we were talking to Tony, 830 00:29:11,820 --> 00:29:13,598 he is like, oh, yeah, 831 00:29:13,598 --> 00:29:14,431 I'm kind of a cigar hoarder. 832 00:29:14,431 --> 00:29:15,976 And, I was like, oh, 833 00:29:15,976 --> 00:29:19,950 you are talking to the hoarder killer over here, Nate. 834 00:29:19,950 --> 00:29:22,320 He will smoke them if you got him. 835 00:29:22,320 --> 00:29:24,786 - Let me lose on your collection 836 00:29:24,786 --> 00:29:26,070 and I will make a significant dent. 837 00:29:26,070 --> 00:29:28,290 - Which I don't know if Tony was offering that up. 838 00:29:28,290 --> 00:29:30,330 If there's anything you really like, I probably have it. 839 00:29:30,330 --> 00:29:31,163 Well, alright. 840 00:29:31,163 --> 00:29:31,996 You want it smoked? 841 00:29:31,996 --> 00:29:32,829 Send it our way. 842 00:29:32,829 --> 00:29:33,662 - Let's text him. 843 00:29:33,662 --> 00:29:34,620 - Let's text him now. 844 00:29:34,620 --> 00:29:35,580 Oh, by the way, 845 00:29:35,580 --> 00:29:38,820 we want some originals of the Pepper Cream Soda and the... 846 00:29:38,820 --> 00:29:40,560 - You bored with your stuff, Tony? 847 00:29:40,560 --> 00:29:41,393 I can help. 848 00:29:42,420 --> 00:29:44,190 - The cool thing about that is 849 00:29:44,190 --> 00:29:46,020 I'm sure what he gets a kick out of 850 00:29:46,020 --> 00:29:48,240 is sharing it with people who enjoy it. 851 00:29:48,240 --> 00:29:49,976 If there's somebody who's like, oh, 852 00:29:49,976 --> 00:29:52,110 I really liked this and I can't find it anymore. 853 00:29:52,110 --> 00:29:53,790 And, then he's the guy that can be like, yeah, 854 00:29:53,790 --> 00:29:55,290 I got that. 855 00:29:55,290 --> 00:29:58,190 I think that's why there's Herf-a-Dor and... 856 00:29:58,190 --> 00:30:00,573 Or mooch-a-dors and regular humidors. 857 00:30:01,516 --> 00:30:02,880 Like I always have a mooch-a-dor 858 00:30:02,880 --> 00:30:04,020 but I then... 859 00:30:04,020 --> 00:30:05,250 - I have one here at the office. 860 00:30:05,250 --> 00:30:07,380 - Yeah, I peg people for that, right? 861 00:30:07,380 --> 00:30:08,670 - Yep. 862 00:30:08,670 --> 00:30:11,220 - They're not when come super into cigars. 863 00:30:11,220 --> 00:30:13,470 - Yeah, when I come back from the cigar shows, 864 00:30:13,470 --> 00:30:15,000 they're always cigars that I enjoy, 865 00:30:15,000 --> 00:30:17,450 but I'm probably not gonna smoke nearly as often. 866 00:30:18,990 --> 00:30:23,536 Put some of those in the mooch-a-dor, take some home, 867 00:30:23,536 --> 00:30:24,581 smoke them every now and then 868 00:30:24,581 --> 00:30:27,031 just to make sure I try lots of different cigars, 869 00:30:28,380 --> 00:30:30,300 but then you have stuff that isn't gonna break the bank 870 00:30:30,300 --> 00:30:32,460 and stuff that other people are gonna really love 871 00:30:32,460 --> 00:30:33,293 and be able to try. 872 00:30:33,293 --> 00:30:34,840 And, you put it in that humidor. 873 00:30:36,450 --> 00:30:40,061 - That's my favorite is when somebody is a cigar smoker, 874 00:30:40,061 --> 00:30:41,376 and then I pull something out, 875 00:30:41,376 --> 00:30:42,270 and they're like, whoa. 876 00:30:42,270 --> 00:30:45,390 - And, then both Rob and I have a drawer here at work 877 00:30:45,390 --> 00:30:47,310 where we put the nice stuff. 878 00:30:47,310 --> 00:30:48,420 - Yes. 879 00:30:48,420 --> 00:30:49,770 - And, every once in a while, 880 00:30:49,770 --> 00:30:53,130 we break those out if we really wanna wow people, 881 00:30:53,130 --> 00:30:55,620 and then it's there for our enjoyment. 882 00:30:55,620 --> 00:30:56,580 What do you get in there, Nate? 883 00:30:56,580 --> 00:30:57,540 Nothing. 884 00:30:57,540 --> 00:30:59,550 - Or, yeah, just for yourself. 885 00:30:59,550 --> 00:31:01,563 It's like, dude, long week. 886 00:31:02,400 --> 00:31:03,700 Bust out the good humidor. 887 00:31:06,690 --> 00:31:07,523 Yeah. 888 00:31:07,523 --> 00:31:08,700 - What's Nate smoking on Tuesday? 889 00:31:08,700 --> 00:31:09,533 Something good. 890 00:31:09,533 --> 00:31:10,710 - Something good. 891 00:31:10,710 --> 00:31:11,610 It's been a good one. 892 00:31:11,610 --> 00:31:13,200 Been a long week on Tuesday? 893 00:31:13,200 --> 00:31:14,033 Oh, shit. 894 00:31:15,960 --> 00:31:17,640 Oh, man. 895 00:31:17,640 --> 00:31:19,800 So, let us know what you think we should be doing 896 00:31:19,800 --> 00:31:22,590 with the Long Lived The Queen. 897 00:31:22,590 --> 00:31:24,990 And, if you've tried any of these cigars, 898 00:31:24,990 --> 00:31:27,300 leave a comment which one you like below. 899 00:31:27,300 --> 00:31:29,150 And, as always, protect your humidors 900 00:31:30,030 --> 00:31:31,590 with Boveda. - Boveda. 901 00:31:31,590 --> 00:31:33,870 - Cheers and have a great weekend. 902 00:31:33,870 --> 00:31:35,966 - Have a great weekend, folks. 903 00:31:35,966 --> 00:31:38,799 (uplifting music)