- I can't take it anymore, Harry.
Speaker:We got no food, we got no jobs.
Speaker:- Our pet's heads are falling off.
Speaker:That's kind of fitting.
Speaker:Blind Man's Bluff.
Speaker:Then, they gave the bird to a blind man.
Speaker:- Petey, you sold my dead bird to a blind kid?
Speaker:- Harry, I took care of it.
Speaker:- Pretty bird.
Speaker:Pretty bird.
Speaker:- I love it when he is on the news.
Speaker:- We'll be back in a minute with the heartbreaking story
Speaker:of the blind Rhode Island boy
Speaker:who was duped into buying a dead parakeet.
Speaker:- I just thought he was real quiet.
Speaker:- There's a story inside every smoke shop
Speaker:with every cigar and with every person.
Speaker:Come be a part of the cigar lifestyle at Boveda.
Speaker:This is Box Press.
Speaker:(uplifting music playing)
Speaker:Welcome to another episode of Box Press.
Speaker:I'm your host, Rob Gagner.
Speaker:- And, I'm your other host, Nate Beck.
Speaker:- And, today, we are continuing on
Speaker:with our Big Brother, Little Brother series
Speaker:where we are trying to figure out if in a cigar line,
Speaker:if they have like a bottom end,
Speaker:more economically friendly cigar,
Speaker:and a high end more not economically friendly cigar,
Speaker:but very similar,
Speaker:to see if you can kind of bounce between the two,
Speaker:or if you want something a little bit more celebratory,
Speaker:you can do that,
Speaker:or if you really like the celebratory stick,
Speaker:but you can't afford to always smoke that,
Speaker:you can go down to the budget friendly stick.
Speaker:- Yep.
Speaker:- So, we kind of had to...
Speaker:I don't know, we pushed down the boundaries
Speaker:a little bit this time,
Speaker:because we're doing Caldwell,
Speaker:but we're also doing Lost & Found.
Speaker:There are extensions of each other, I would say,
Speaker:but overall they're definitely not from the same, I guess,
Speaker:company.
Speaker:- Right.
Speaker:- So...
Speaker:- They're sort of like adjacent companies, right?
Speaker:- Yeah.
Speaker:We're pushing the boundaries a little bit.
Speaker:The consistency is Robert Caldwell, right?
Speaker:- Mm-hmm.
Speaker:- With Lost & Found, you bring in Tony.
Speaker:- Tony Bellato.
Speaker:- Bellato who does a ton of stuff.
Speaker:He has a really cool coffee company
Speaker:that we were actually just looking up,
Speaker:Youngstown Coffee Company.
Speaker:- Yeah, based outta Youngstown, Ohio.
Speaker:- And, amazing like single origin Ethiopian.
Speaker:You can get like a full pound for 20 bucks.
Speaker:- That's a good deal.
Speaker:- Shout out to Tony.
Speaker:We just got off the phone with him actually,
Speaker:because we were trying to figure out
Speaker:what the heck is going on
Speaker:with this 22 Minutes to Midnight series,
Speaker:because the Maduro,
Speaker:which we have--
Speaker:- Which you can see that here.
Speaker:- Here is 11:38
Speaker:and then the other one that's Robert Caldwell's blend
Speaker:is 23:38.
Speaker:And, apparently,
Speaker:this whole series came about,
Speaker:because when they were first starting Lost & Found,
Speaker:Tony was getting some of these cigars from Robert,
Speaker:and Robert was saying, here, smoke these,
Speaker:let me know what you think.
Speaker:Now, these are all cigars that were already pre-rolled.
Speaker:They were just sitting there,
Speaker:and they thought, well,
Speaker:there's not enough for any one major brand to do anything.
Speaker:But, these guys thought, hey,
Speaker:maybe we could bring these to the world.
Speaker:Well, Tony ended up smoking,
Speaker:I think he said the Pepper Cream Soda.
Speaker:And, he... I think you're right.
Speaker:He texted or called Robert at 22 Minutes to Midnight saying,
Speaker:we gotta do something with this.
Speaker:It's too good to just like let it go undiscovered,
Speaker:or unshared,
Speaker:or any of that.
Speaker:So, that was basically the foundation
Speaker:of what started Lost & Found.
Speaker:Now, come full circle.
Speaker:- Delicious.
Speaker:- These two cigars that are 22 Minutes to Midnight.
Speaker:There's four in the entire line, there's Connecticut,
Speaker:we got the Habano, then there's a Criollo.
Speaker:- Criollo, yeah.
Speaker:- Criollo.
Speaker:- Corojo?
Speaker:Corojo, maybe?
Speaker:- Corojo, no Criollo sounds right.
Speaker:- Let's...
Speaker:Coro...
Speaker:Oh.
Speaker:Criollo.
Speaker:- Criollo is the 22 Minutes to Noon.
Speaker:- Yeah, and then the Maduro, that's what we have.
Speaker:- Yep.
Speaker:- Sorry, can't keep them all straight.
Speaker:- So, there's two in each,
Speaker:two in the 22 Minutes to Noon and two versions
Speaker:in the 22 Minutes to Midnight.
Speaker:- Right, but they're all labeled as 22 Minutes to Midnight.
Speaker:Just the number changes
Speaker:and the person who signed it--
Speaker:- Oh, cool.
Speaker:- Anthony Bellato,
Speaker:Tony Bellato signed the 11:38 boxes.
Speaker:Those are the blends that he did.
Speaker:And, the 23:38s, that Connecticut
Speaker:and Habano are the ones that Robert did.
Speaker:I love Habano.
Speaker:So, you were smoking this one, the gold band 23:38,
Speaker:by Robert.
Speaker:It's the Habano.
Speaker:You said this is really good.
Speaker:I was like, oh really? - It's fantastic.
Speaker:Yeah.
Speaker:- I said we should do a Big Brother Little Brother series,
Speaker:because it's like a $19 stick roughly, you know?
Speaker:So, then we came up with the Blind Man's Bluff,
Speaker:the Habano and the Maduro.
Speaker:And, in fact, it's working really, really well.
Speaker:All of these are smoking really well together
Speaker:and I don't think they intentionally did any of that at all.
Speaker:- Yeah, so we've got Blind Man's Bluff here
Speaker:and the 22 Minutes to Midnight Habano here.
Speaker:And--
Speaker:- You know, there was no intention,
Speaker:like we're the ones doing this, not them.
Speaker:Like they don't know,
Speaker:like, oh yeah, that's a...
Speaker:- And, yeah, and according to Tony,
Speaker:the tobaccos that are in the 22 Minutes to Midnight cigars
Speaker:are 15- to 18-year-old tobaccos.
Speaker:- On average.
Speaker:- On average.
Speaker:- So, that's the average.
Speaker:- And, according to a couple of other sites
Speaker:I was looking at,
Speaker:some of the cigars,
Speaker:the age actually can push closer to 25 years.
Speaker:So, that's the average age of these tobaccos.
Speaker:- And, I was asking him,
Speaker:I'm like oftentimes when a company will tell
Speaker:20-year-aged tobacco,
Speaker:I'm like, yeah, whatever,
Speaker:like how much?
Speaker:But, what he's saying is that it's a majority.
Speaker:That's why the average comes down to like 15 years,
Speaker:because they're trying to use all the tobacco
Speaker:that's basically been kind of overlooked.
Speaker:I said, well, what's the premise of that?
Speaker:And, he's like, well,
Speaker:if you're a bigger cigar company,
Speaker:you are not gonna make a box, a band,
Speaker:and a brand for 20,000 sticks, 5,000 sticks.
Speaker:But, these guys will,
Speaker:because the whole premise is to just say, hey,
Speaker:this is something that could be done,
Speaker:and make a band out of it and release it.
Speaker:So, I think one of the cool things about Lost & Found
Speaker:is this opportunity to try some unique stuff,
Speaker:but it's also probably some stuff
Speaker:that you may not ever be able to get again.
Speaker:- Yeah.
Speaker:- Hence the whole Lost, Found,
Speaker:and then they should almost finish it with like,
Speaker:well, Gone again.
Speaker:Like, just gone.
Speaker:- That's the next brand, Gone Again.
Speaker:- Gone again, because it's...
Speaker:It's not coming back.
Speaker:- Yeah.
Speaker:I will say, Rob,
Speaker:this is the first time where we've smoked multiple cigars,
Speaker:where I really feel like all four of these cigars
Speaker:are forming a really cool combination of flavors.
Speaker:Like everything really is pairing very, very well.
Speaker:Would you agree?
Speaker:- Yeah.
Speaker:And, I was hesitant to do all four of these,
Speaker:because I wanted to do the Maduros up against each other
Speaker:and the Habanos up against each other.
Speaker:But, now I find myself cutting across,
Speaker:like Habanos and Maduros,
Speaker:and it's like,
Speaker:it's still working really well,
Speaker:which is really surprising to me,
Speaker:because even on this 11:38 Maduro,
Speaker:this is a Mexican San Andreas Maduro,
Speaker:whereas the Blind Man's Puff...
Speaker:Bluff. - Bluff, yep.
Speaker:- Bluff.
Speaker:That is a broad leaf Maduro.
Speaker:- Gotcha, which is a pretty...
Speaker:- A big difference.
Speaker:- Huge dramatic difference in flavor, yeah.
Speaker:- Yeah, big, big, big difference.
Speaker:We're not even like really sticking with the same leaf here.
Speaker:We're just...
Speaker:- And, Rob, I just noticed on the side of the band here,
Speaker:it's got DanlĂ Honduras?
Speaker:- Yeah, that's what I was saying.
Speaker:I think they're all made in...
Speaker:But then they also have some Nicaragua stuff.
Speaker:But, it just could be that they're all rolled in Honduras.
Speaker:- Yeah, all four of these are really good.
Speaker:I agree with you.
Speaker:For sure, these Blind Man's Bluffs.
Speaker:Either one of these is box worthy.
Speaker:- Totally.
Speaker:- Totally box worthy.
Speaker:- I've always...
Speaker:I've always had...
Speaker:What are they going for a stick?
Speaker:I'll have to look on a different website here real quick.
Speaker:- I bet these are, what?
Speaker:Eight, $9 a stick,
Speaker:somewhere in that wheelhouse?
Speaker:- Well, I got an invoice right here.
Speaker:What did I pay for them?
Speaker:Dammit, I have to do math.
Speaker:- What do we got there, four?
Speaker:- 34 bucks?
Speaker:- So, 35 bucks, you got...
Speaker:- Yeah.
Speaker:- Eight bucks, 8.50.
Speaker:- So, yeah.
Speaker:I mean less than $10.
Speaker:And, I've always--
Speaker:- Basically, we'll say $9 a stick.
Speaker:- I've always had an affinity towards the Blind Man.
Speaker:The...
Speaker:I don't think I've had anything in there,
Speaker:although I don't know if I've had a ton of stuff,
Speaker:because there is quite a bit,
Speaker:more than I thought.
Speaker:They have a Connecticut.
Speaker:Didn't know that.
Speaker:- There's a lot of options
Speaker:- They have a Nicaraguan, didn't know that.
Speaker:And, then the Maduro,
Speaker:so I've only had the Maduro and the Habano.
Speaker:- These are really great.
Speaker:- I'd be tempted to try the other ones for sure,
Speaker:based on my experience.
Speaker:- I think we need to get a purchase order together, Rob.
Speaker:- Oh, yeah, totally.
Speaker:- Yeah, for science.
Speaker:- For science.
Speaker:- Yeah, it's...
Speaker:Seems like the right thing to do.
Speaker:- And, shout out to Zach who sent us a box of the Maduros.
Speaker:We appreciate you.
Speaker:Thank you very much, buddy.
Speaker:- And, we got another cigar waiting in the wings
Speaker:that we'll have to do something special with.
Speaker:- Yeah, that was a tough one.
Speaker:And, it's...
Speaker:Should we just...
Speaker:Should we name it?
Speaker:- We should. We should.
Speaker:- It's the, what is the name of it?
Speaker:- Long Live The Queen.
Speaker:- Long Live The Queen.
Speaker:- It's absolutely spectacular.
Speaker:- Unbelievable.
Speaker:- Spectacular.
Speaker:- But, the wrapper on that is Cameroon.
Speaker:So, it's like there's no...
Speaker:There's no Big Brother Little Brother.
Speaker:and there's nothing inside Caldwell's repertoire
Speaker:that's like anything Cameroon.
Speaker:- It's just really special.
Speaker:- So, I was like,
Speaker:well, what are we gonna do with that?
Speaker:- I'm a...
Speaker:Like you are with Habano,
Speaker:I'm a nut for Cameroon Wrapper I have found as of late.
Speaker:- So, we're gonna obviously do something with that cigar,
Speaker:but what should we do with it?
Speaker:Go ahead and put some comments in the YouTube
Speaker:or wherever you find this.
Speaker:You can even send us emails at info@bovedainc.com.
Speaker:What should we do with Long Live the Queen?
Speaker:- And, if you follow us on Instagram,
Speaker:drop us a a message on Instagram.
Speaker:- You can always direct message us.
Speaker:- It's Boveda_Rob and Boveda_Nate.
Speaker:- Let us know what you think, because-
Speaker:- Yeah, give us some ideas.
Speaker:- I got an idea possibly of putting it up
Speaker:against some other Cameroons.
Speaker:- I was just thinking that.
Speaker:- But, I'm not sure if that's gonna be like,
Speaker:I'd like to hear what other people are interested in.
Speaker:Is it putting up against other Cameroons?
Speaker:Is it putting up against other things in that Caldwell line,
Speaker:like Long Live The King?
Speaker:Because he has a bunch there, too.
Speaker:It's like...
Speaker:And, there were so many like small things
Speaker:that he's done with Long Live The King,
Speaker:The King Is Dead.
Speaker:There were a ton of different things on Small Batch
Speaker:that I saw.
Speaker:It was like holy cow.
Speaker:Like all of this is just a ton of different blends.
Speaker:In my opinion I have no idea where it all starts
Speaker:and that's where Caldwell gets a little confusing for me.
Speaker:It's like where with everything going on,
Speaker:what is it, where is it from,
Speaker:and how do I obtain it?
Speaker:Because, it's hard.
Speaker:- I like it.
Speaker:And, it also can be confusing, the...
Speaker:There's not a lot of ubiquity
Speaker:in their different brand lines
Speaker:or their different product lines.
Speaker:But, I think it's super cool,
Speaker:because it's so creative.
Speaker:- Super creative. - But, it's...
Speaker:It's hard to classify like families of these cigars,
Speaker:because they're...
Speaker:A lot of them seem to be,
Speaker:I don't wanna use the term one-off,
Speaker:but they're sort of standalone.
Speaker:- That's a great question to everyone out there is like,
Speaker:do you even like cigars that are,
Speaker:let's just say,
Speaker:let's take the Lost & Found for instance.
Speaker:Do you like that or not?
Speaker:I personally like it.
Speaker:- I do, too.
Speaker:- Because, I get to try something
Speaker:probably that punches way above it's price point,
Speaker:and no one else is going to do anything with that tobacco,
Speaker:because it's so limited.
Speaker:- Wait, you...
Speaker:- But, then it negates the fact that I'm like,
Speaker:oh, I really like.
Speaker:- I know.
Speaker:- Can I buy a box?
Speaker:Probably not.
Speaker:- And, you get to the end of a cigar,
Speaker:like those Lost & Found antique selections,
Speaker:which you and I were both fortunate enough
Speaker:to smoke through a bunch of those,
Speaker:and you get partway through the cigar,
Speaker:and you think I better like consciously think about
Speaker:enjoying all of this,
Speaker:because I'm not getting this again.
Speaker:So, you want to like...
Speaker:You wanna make sure you remember what that tasted like.
Speaker:- We got that in our...
Speaker:My Cigar Pack.
Speaker:That was super, super nice to try all those cigars.
Speaker:And, what Tony said about those cigars
Speaker:is as the Antique Line
Speaker:is the year that the cigar was rolled
Speaker:is what was on the band.
Speaker:So, not the age of the cigar necessarily.
Speaker:Like the tobaccos might be even way older.
Speaker:So, like some of those had like 2003.
Speaker:- Yeah.
Speaker:- Like...
Speaker:- 2012, 2014, early 2000s.
Speaker:- That's a 20-year-old stick.
Speaker:- Stick, but the tobacco is much older than that, yeah.
Speaker:- I don't...
Speaker:That's...
Speaker:So, there's a give and take there.
Speaker:It's like, oh, really cool,
Speaker:a opportunity to try something,
Speaker:and then it's also like, dang it,
Speaker:I really like it.
Speaker:Can I get more?
Speaker:No. - No.
Speaker:- So, that's why I say it has to finish with the Gone.
Speaker:- Yes.
Speaker:- Lost, Found,
Speaker:Gone. - Gone.
Speaker:- See ya, not coming back.
Speaker:- Goodbye.
Speaker:- But, it is...
Speaker:When we were just talking to Tony,
Speaker:the Lost & Found series
Speaker:he's said was kind of,
Speaker:it's pretty much done.
Speaker:There's not like a ton of tobacco
Speaker:or cigars sitting around anymore.
Speaker:What they're gonna do now is roll cigars
Speaker:with aged tobacco that's just sitting around,
Speaker:and doesn't have a lot of play in major cigar brands.
Speaker:And, then they're gonna make cigars
Speaker:just like these 22 Minutes to Midnight.
Speaker:So, this is pretty much the the new launch.
Speaker:- Yeah, which is a cool idea.
Speaker:- Yeah, amazing.
Speaker:- Because, they're...
Speaker:They're...
Speaker:I got to imagine tobacco producers or brokers
Speaker:have lots of tobacco that could make a few thousand boxes.
Speaker:And, those are prime territory for smaller producers,
Speaker:because they're able to do lots like that
Speaker:and do a limited run of cigars,
Speaker:which I think is really cool,
Speaker:but a Fuente and a Davidoff,
Speaker:they're not gonna do that,
Speaker:unless they're just putting out a very limited cigar.
Speaker:They just aren't gonna do that.
Speaker:They're not gonna take a run with that.
Speaker:- You and I smoked the $500 Davidoff Oro Blanco.
Speaker:Extremely unique stick.
Speaker:- Yes.
Speaker:- You can already tell with,
Speaker:not that this is anywhere close to that,
Speaker:but you can start to tell refinement
Speaker:out of tobacco, aged tobacco,
Speaker:and I can tell right here
Speaker:like between the Blind Man's Bluff and these,
Speaker:there's a different set of refinement.
Speaker:So, I am able to taste a difference in quality.
Speaker:What I like about this one though in particular
Speaker:is the quality and refinement is much more muted.
Speaker:Like you can really jump between them
Speaker:and not be like, whoa--
Speaker:- Absolutely.
Speaker:- When we did the video of like,
Speaker:Can You Taste Quality in a Cigar?
Speaker:- Yes.
Speaker:- That Alfonso like hung out on its own on an island.
Speaker:I was like these cigars out can't even touch it,
Speaker:which I think is unique here,
Speaker:where I'm that Blind Man's Puff is approaching this,
Speaker:hands down, very easily.
Speaker:- Yeah, like I've noticed in these four cigars,
Speaker:of the four,
Speaker:the Blind Man's Bluff Maduro,
Speaker:really the only difference I'm getting
Speaker:between the other three
Speaker:is it's got just a little more kind of pepperiness
Speaker:sharpness on the retro hale,
Speaker:and then this would be next,
Speaker:and then these two are just really soft and creamy
Speaker:on the retro hale.
Speaker:Like there's just none of that pepperiness,
Speaker:none of that burn,
Speaker:just really beautiful cigars.
Speaker:But, all four of these have this like underlying creaminess
Speaker:that just all plays well together.
Speaker:It'd be like having four different versions of,
Speaker:I don't know,
Speaker:like a latte or coffee.
Speaker:Maybe... - Right.
Speaker:- Maybe, these are just coffee with more or less cream.
Speaker:One might be a little stronger coffee,
Speaker:one might be a little bit more mellow,
Speaker:and these are like a beautiful, I don't know,
Speaker:cappuccino or latte,
Speaker:that's gonna have that just really soft creaminess
Speaker:that everything just blends together.
Speaker:- You're talking about
Speaker:the 22 Minutes to Midnight? - The 22 Minutes to Midnight.
Speaker:Yeah.
Speaker:- Yeah, yeah--
Speaker:- Tony made a great point in talking about age.
Speaker:Age doesn't always mean better,
Speaker:because in a lot of things that people consume
Speaker:with significant age on them,
Speaker:cigars, wine specifically,
Speaker:spirits,
Speaker:there is a point at which, at a certain age,
Speaker:the flavors start to drop off and you get more muted,
Speaker:kind of...
Speaker:He used a great description like musty, smell of a basement,
Speaker:kind of earthy, minerally,
Speaker:chalky flavors that are just kind of muted,
Speaker:and, but if you get it at the age
Speaker:where everything has really come together,
Speaker:then it's spectacular.
Speaker:- Yeah, that Blind Man's Bluff Maduro is sharp on the retro.
Speaker:- It's so hard to not say Blind Man's Puff.
Speaker:- Yeah, man.
Speaker:I'm struggling really hard over here.
Speaker:Blind Man's Bluff. - Bluff.
Speaker:Bluff.
Speaker:The BMB.
Speaker:- And, it must be because of the Blind Man's Puff website.
Speaker:- Yes, of course.
Speaker:Of course.
Speaker:The...
Speaker:- Now, we're smoking four cigars.
Speaker:It's hard to keep them all lit and straight in my head.
Speaker:Just went from the Habano Blind Man
Speaker:to the 22 Minutes to Midnight Habano.
Speaker:Ugh, that's good.
Speaker:It's funny how they don't compete with each other.
Speaker:- No.
Speaker:- Which we've experienced before,
Speaker:where it's like, okay,
Speaker:one is more harsh,
Speaker:more astringent, maybe.
Speaker:- These are like an all nice round flavor.
Speaker:- Yeah.
Speaker:I think of the two Blind Man's Bluffs,
Speaker:I always gravitate towards the Habano,
Speaker:but I think it's nostalgic for me.
Speaker:- The Maduro
Speaker:or the Habano is nostalgic? - The Habano.
Speaker:- Yeah.
Speaker:It was like one of the first cigars I picked up,
Speaker:but I was like, oh my God this is really good.
Speaker:- I remember the first time I had a Caldwell cigar
Speaker:was from James down at Burn.
Speaker:- Sure.
Speaker:- Yeah, he was the one that introduced me
Speaker:to Caldwell Cigars.
Speaker:This would've been, boy,
Speaker:probably close to 10 years ago now.
Speaker:- Do you remember which one you smoked?
Speaker:- Blind Man's Bluff was the first one.
Speaker:- Which...
Speaker:Which one?
Speaker:- Boy, that I don't remember.
Speaker:I do know I also had the Eastern Standard,
Speaker:which I just smoked one of those yesterday.
Speaker:Another great cigar.
Speaker:The Eastern Standard was like,
Speaker:I'll often say if a cigar is like perfumy,
Speaker:I'll say it tastes like a good cologne or a good fragrance.
Speaker:And, that Eastern Standard has a lot of that,
Speaker:because fragrances will have woody notes,
Speaker:they'll have earthy notes,
Speaker:they'll have vegetal notes,
Speaker:they kind of get all these different layers.
Speaker:- The 22 Minutes to Midnight Habano,
Speaker:that one is very creamy.
Speaker:They don't even disclose any of the--
Speaker:- No, I had to go into a couple of retailers
Speaker:to see what their flavor descriptions were.
Speaker:- Yeah?
Speaker:- And, both of these were like a couple that I read,
Speaker:this was like dark chocolate, cream, coffee.
Speaker:This one's like cream, nougat,
Speaker:even marshmallow.
Speaker:- The Habano?
Speaker:- The Habano, yeah.
Speaker:- The Maduro's more chocolatey.
Speaker:- Which makes sense.
Speaker:- They're both really good though.
Speaker:- And, especially because this...
Speaker:Especially, because this is San Andreas,
Speaker:I often think San Andreas has a lot of
Speaker:chocolatey notes to it.
Speaker:- For whatever reason,
Speaker:I pegged San Andreas with being more strength
Speaker:and I don't know why that is.
Speaker:- It's funny,
Speaker:because I would say I don't get strength from San Andreas,
Speaker:but I do...
Speaker:I do say that about Broadleaf,
Speaker:which is the Blind Man's Bluff Maduro, correct?
Speaker:- Sure, yeah.
Speaker:- I generally think if it's Broadleaf,
Speaker:it's gonna have a more punch,
Speaker:a little more of that dark coffee, dark chocolate,
Speaker:more robust,
Speaker:dare I say, smokey flavors.
Speaker:- I definitely was getting--
Speaker:- Taste like tobacco...
Speaker:- Yeah, I was definitely getting a smokey,
Speaker:almost like fire cured out of Maduro.
Speaker:- You don't say?
Speaker:Wow.
Speaker:Did you say fire cured?
Speaker:- Kind of like a...
Speaker:- And, I think that sometimes about Broadleaf.
Speaker:- Yeah, because it's Pennsylvania.
Speaker:- Yep.
Speaker:Almost sometimes that like Latakia Pipe Tobacco
Speaker:kind of notes,
Speaker:which is a...
Speaker:If you've never smelled Latakia,
Speaker:it's a...
Speaker:It's an immediately recognizable scent amongst tobaccos.
Speaker:I particularly really, really like it.
Speaker:It's why I like Laphroaig.
Speaker:- There's certain people that like smoke that on its own.
Speaker:And, I--
Speaker:- Oh, I've met a couple.
Speaker:- When I worked at the smoke shop,
Speaker:I was like, you just want Latakia?
Speaker:You don't want me to mix that with anything?
Speaker:He is like, yeah,
Speaker:no, just the Latakia.
Speaker:And, then he would pack his...
Speaker:- You feel like they all have to say it that way.
Speaker:Yeah, I just really want that Latakia.
Speaker:- Yeah, I just want...
Speaker:Yes.
Speaker:- Are you sure?
Speaker:Yeah.
Speaker:- Stop questioning me, you young stupid kid.
Speaker:- The heck is wrong with you, man.
Speaker:- And, then...
Speaker:- Go.
Speaker:- He would pack his bowl and light it up and I'm like okay.
Speaker:Alrighty, then.
Speaker:- You feel like they'll look at you and say...
Speaker:- Tina, you fat lard, come get some dinner.
Speaker:- Holy cow.
Speaker:The whole...
Speaker:- You can just smell--
Speaker:- A little Napoleon Dynamite
Speaker:and he dumps the whole tray of food over for the...
Speaker:Was Tina a llama, if I remember right?
Speaker:- Tina, eat.
Speaker:Eat the food.
Speaker:Eat the food.
Speaker:- Speaking of Broadleaf,
Speaker:it's so interesting to me that both of those plants
Speaker:are grown predominantly in the Connecticut River Valley
Speaker:and one is super light, and delicate, and thin,
Speaker:and the other is like a chunky bush,
Speaker:and super robust,
Speaker:and like thick, strong leaves.
Speaker:- Yeah, Broadleaf leaves.
Speaker:So, I'm totally enjoying all of these,
Speaker:100%.
Speaker:- I absolutely agree.
Speaker:- It's really hard--
Speaker:- All four are fantastic.
Speaker:- Really hard for me to say like, I don't know,
Speaker:sometimes I try to pick like a winner,
Speaker:like one that I gravitate towards,
Speaker:but I really can't.
Speaker:- Honestly, of the Big Brother, Little Brothers
Speaker:we've done so far,
Speaker:I would say these four cigars
Speaker:are ones that I would absolutely choose either option,
Speaker:any of these options,
Speaker:any time of day,
Speaker:and I'd be very happy.
Speaker:So, if you want a brand
Speaker:and a sort of Big Brother,
Speaker:Little Brother,
Speaker:if we can make it that,
Speaker:where you're really getting bang for buck
Speaker:on the Little Brother,
Speaker:this would be one of them.
Speaker:- Huge.
Speaker:- Huge.
Speaker:- Huge bang for buck.
Speaker:Now, I need to go try the other ones
Speaker:in the Blind Man's Bluff category,
Speaker:because I've clearly been sleeping on those
Speaker:way too long.
Speaker:- Let's get on the horn and order some boxes.
Speaker:- Yeah.
Speaker:Yes, please.
Speaker:And, again, the Lost & Found series is a total blast.
Speaker:I'm looking at their--
Speaker:- We're gonna call our finance department today and go,
Speaker:don't throw up if you see the credit card bill for today.
Speaker:- Yeah, they got the Instant Classic,
Speaker:the Pepper Cream Soda,
Speaker:and Just the Tip.
Speaker:- I have...
Speaker:I've had Just the Tip.
Speaker:- 15 Minutes, 15 Minutes of Fame?
Speaker:- I am a child and I don't care.
Speaker:- What is this--
Speaker:- But, I have not had the...
Speaker:Excuse me, I've not had the Pepper Cream Soda.
Speaker:Oh, that's the new Nightstand.
Speaker:Have you ever had those?
Speaker:- No.
Speaker:- I've had previous versions of the Night Stand,
Speaker:but I've not had this one.
Speaker:- So interesting.
Speaker:I'm assuming now they're just basically recreating
Speaker:the Pepper Cream Soda in all these,
Speaker:like the Instant Classic,
Speaker:all the good ones,
Speaker:which was funny, like you had said,
Speaker:Tony talked about smoking some cigars that were lost.
Speaker:They found him and then they said, no go.
Speaker:Like too far gone.
Speaker:- Too far gone, yeah.
Speaker:- Which I...
Speaker:I totally understand.
Speaker:But, I wonder if,
Speaker:we think of it as a bell curve,
Speaker:but I wonder if it's more of like a wave.
Speaker:Would it come back?
Speaker:Would it come back and be better?
Speaker:- I suppose it's possible.
Speaker:- I have no idea.
Speaker:- But, my guess would be no,
Speaker:but I suppose it's possible.
Speaker:- He did say though,
Speaker:like you know that funky basement, stale,
Speaker:kind of grassy...
Speaker:- Grandma's basement.
Speaker:- Yeah, grandma's basement.
Speaker:- That's what I'm...
Speaker:I'm remembering that one.
Speaker:- It's really hard to get away from that.
Speaker:As soon as that creeps in...
Speaker:- Absolutely.
Speaker:And, I have such strong memories
Speaker:of that like idea of grandma's basement,
Speaker:because I grew up with a very large extended family
Speaker:that all lived in the Minneapolis St. Paul area,
Speaker:and in the 60s, 70s and 80s
Speaker:they all had small homes,
Speaker:but fairly good sized families.
Speaker:So, when we'd all get together for a big Christmas party,
Speaker:we'd have sometimes, I don't know,
Speaker:close to a 100 people in a tiny house,
Speaker:and all of us kids would end up in the basement,
Speaker:because one of the great aunts always had like
Speaker:one of those stationary bikes.
Speaker:And, I remember distinctly one had the stationary bike
Speaker:that the pedals would keep turning
Speaker:once you got it going,
Speaker:so you'd put all your weight on one pedal
Speaker:and just bounce up and down like a crazy--
Speaker:- Stand on it.
Speaker:- Yes, like a crazy idiot.
Speaker:Grandma's basement is a very distinct memory for me.
Speaker:- See and then see if you can get two people on each pedal
Speaker:going up and down.
Speaker:- And, those memory--
Speaker:- Two people riding the bike.
Speaker:- Yeah, and those memories for me are great,
Speaker:because I think nowadays
Speaker:we think we have to have these huge houses
Speaker:in order to like host a lot of people.
Speaker:You absolutely do not.
Speaker:In fact, the best parties that you ever go to
Speaker:are in the tiniest places,
Speaker:because everyone always ends up in the kitchen,
Speaker:wherever the food is.
Speaker:Nobody ends up in the great room.
Speaker:And, nobody cares about the finished basement,
Speaker:because it's cold and empty.
Speaker:And, unless the whole party's there
Speaker:and there's like a lot of entertainment,
Speaker:you'd rather be where all the people are.
Speaker:And, so those tiny little houses are really nice,
Speaker:warming memories for me,
Speaker:because that was the idea of home,
Speaker:and all of them were unfinished basements for sure.
Speaker:And, they all had those like woven braided rugs
Speaker:that were like eponymous in Midwestern Scandinavian homes
Speaker:that got passed down to the kids.
Speaker:Yeah, they're...
Speaker:It's just great memories
Speaker:and tiny little couches.
Speaker:In fact, my grandma used to always call one of her couches
Speaker:the davenport.
Speaker:I have no idea where that term came from,
Speaker:but it wasn't a couch or a sofa.
Speaker:The davenport.
Speaker:Where the heck did that name come from?
Speaker:- I don't know, but it's definitely old school.
Speaker:- Do you wanna sit in the davenport?
Speaker:No, this couch is not very comfortable.
Speaker:- Did you have a grandmother
Speaker:that put plastic on the couch at all?
Speaker:- Thank, God, no.
Speaker:- I did.
Speaker:- I had neighbors that had that.
Speaker:- I did.
Speaker:I had a grandma that put plastic on the couch.
Speaker:Boy, that thing looked good for a long time.
Speaker:- Sure, it did.
Speaker:And, the plastic was gnarly.
Speaker:Like I had a neighbor that had plastic on the furniture
Speaker:and they were smokers, cigarette smokers.
Speaker:And, it was orange.
Speaker:Oh, it was so gross.
Speaker:Height of summer
Speaker:and you're just glued to that freaking couch.
Speaker:You're like, ugh.
Speaker:- You know what?
Speaker:To be honest though,
Speaker:I just don't see the point.
Speaker:What's the point of putting the plastic on there?
Speaker:You gotta look at that every day.
Speaker:It looks ugly.
Speaker:- It's like how should I have a formal dining room.
Speaker:- Yeah.
Speaker:- What a useless thing to have in a house,
Speaker:like we have this one room that nobody can go in,
Speaker:because you have all the fine China and all the fancy stuff,
Speaker:and you maybe have dinner there, what?
Speaker:Christmas and Easter maybe?
Speaker:- And, Thanksgiving.
Speaker:- Nobody wants to touch...
Speaker:Like, don't you dare lean back in a chair.
Speaker:Ugh.
Speaker:- No, thank you. - So dumb.
Speaker:But, as they say, to each their own.
Speaker:- Right, yeah.
Speaker:Whatever.
Speaker:- I would rather have a nice small, comfortable home
Speaker:and be able to spend money on cigars like this,
Speaker:than to have all my money tied up in a bunch of stuff.
Speaker:That's just me.
Speaker:- Yeah, and you're so...
Speaker:What was funny too is when we were talking to Tony,
Speaker:he is like, oh, yeah,
Speaker:I'm kind of a cigar hoarder.
Speaker:And, I was like, oh,
Speaker:you are talking to the hoarder killer over here, Nate.
Speaker:He will smoke them if you got him.
Speaker:- Let me lose on your collection
Speaker:and I will make a significant dent.
Speaker:- Which I don't know if Tony was offering that up.
Speaker:If there's anything you really like, I probably have it.
Speaker:Well, alright.
Speaker:You want it smoked?
Speaker:Send it our way.
Speaker:- Let's text him.
Speaker:- Let's text him now.
Speaker:Oh, by the way,
Speaker:we want some originals of the Pepper Cream Soda and the...
Speaker:- You bored with your stuff, Tony?
Speaker:I can help.
Speaker:- The cool thing about that is
Speaker:I'm sure what he gets a kick out of
Speaker:is sharing it with people who enjoy it.
Speaker:If there's somebody who's like, oh,
Speaker:I really liked this and I can't find it anymore.
Speaker:And, then he's the guy that can be like, yeah,
Speaker:I got that.
Speaker:I think that's why there's Herf-a-Dor and...
Speaker:Or mooch-a-dors and regular humidors.
Speaker:Like I always have a mooch-a-dor
Speaker:but I then...
Speaker:- I have one here at the office.
Speaker:- Yeah, I peg people for that, right?
Speaker:- Yep.
Speaker:- They're not when come super into cigars.
Speaker:- Yeah, when I come back from the cigar shows,
Speaker:they're always cigars that I enjoy,
Speaker:but I'm probably not gonna smoke nearly as often.
Speaker:Put some of those in the mooch-a-dor, take some home,
Speaker:smoke them every now and then
Speaker:just to make sure I try lots of different cigars,
Speaker:but then you have stuff that isn't gonna break the bank
Speaker:and stuff that other people are gonna really love
Speaker:and be able to try.
Speaker:And, you put it in that humidor.
Speaker:- That's my favorite is when somebody is a cigar smoker,
Speaker:and then I pull something out,
Speaker:and they're like, whoa.
Speaker:- And, then both Rob and I have a drawer here at work
Speaker:where we put the nice stuff.
Speaker:- Yes.
Speaker:- And, every once in a while,
Speaker:we break those out if we really wanna wow people,
Speaker:and then it's there for our enjoyment.
Speaker:What do you get in there, Nate?
Speaker:Nothing.
Speaker:- Or, yeah, just for yourself.
Speaker:It's like, dude, long week.
Speaker:Bust out the good humidor.
Speaker:Yeah.
Speaker:- What's Nate smoking on Tuesday?
Speaker:Something good.
Speaker:- Something good.
Speaker:It's been a good one.
Speaker:Been a long week on Tuesday?
Speaker:Oh, shit.
Speaker:Oh, man.
Speaker:So, let us know what you think we should be doing
Speaker:with the Long Lived The Queen.
Speaker:And, if you've tried any of these cigars,
Speaker:leave a comment which one you like below.
Speaker:And, as always, protect your humidors
Speaker:with Boveda. - Boveda.
Speaker:- Cheers and have a great weekend.
Speaker:- Have a great weekend, folks.