1 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:04,880 On this episode of the Dudes and Dads podcast, we are forging landmark events with our kids. 2 00:00:07,200 --> 00:00:12,640 You're listening to the Dudes and Dads podcast, a show dedicated to helping men be better dudes 3 00:00:12,640 --> 00:00:17,280 and dads by building community through meaningful conversation and storytelling. 4 00:00:18,080 --> 00:00:21,680 And now, here are your hosts, Joel DeMott and Andy Lehmanman. 5 00:00:21,680 --> 00:00:24,480 Andy, I've got two questions. I got two answers for you. 6 00:00:24,480 --> 00:00:25,440 Okay. Don't shoot. 7 00:00:25,440 --> 00:00:26,640 Number one, how's your sump pump? 8 00:00:26,640 --> 00:00:29,440 It's working. It's good. 9 00:00:29,440 --> 00:00:31,600 It's been pumping constantly, though, since, like, Wednesday. 10 00:00:31,600 --> 00:00:32,960 It's been sumping and pumping. 11 00:00:32,960 --> 00:00:34,320 It's been sumping and pumping. 12 00:00:35,120 --> 00:00:36,080 sumping and pumping. 13 00:00:37,520 --> 00:00:40,880 That's what we call it these days, guys. Sumping and pumping. 14 00:00:40,880 --> 00:00:42,480 Sumping and pumping. 15 00:00:42,480 --> 00:00:48,800 But no, so those of you who are not in the know, I came home from Florida and first off, 16 00:00:48,800 --> 00:00:49,680 my furnace was out. 17 00:00:49,680 --> 00:00:51,600 That was my second question. It was about the furnace. 18 00:00:51,600 --> 00:00:55,920 So my furnace was out and we're in the process of getting that taken care of. 19 00:00:55,920 --> 00:00:58,720 We're going to buy a new one. So all of that. 20 00:00:58,720 --> 00:00:59,520 Oh, my gosh. 21 00:00:59,520 --> 00:01:03,280 But then Wednesday, I'm getting ready to come to church, right? 22 00:01:03,280 --> 00:01:08,000 And I wasn't even, I don't even know why I went to the basement, but I went to the basement. 23 00:01:08,000 --> 00:01:10,000 I'll tell you why. Because the Lord told me. 24 00:01:10,000 --> 00:01:16,560 The Lord wanted to maybe alert you or to just test your faith before going to, 25 00:01:16,560 --> 00:01:17,440 say, a hallelujah. 26 00:01:17,440 --> 00:01:19,200 So I was going to go to church. 27 00:01:19,200 --> 00:01:25,280 And then all of a sudden, I see the water at the very top level of the sump, 28 00:01:25,280 --> 00:01:27,760 the basin. And I'm like, I don't know. 29 00:01:27,760 --> 00:01:30,640 Well, actually last time when we were in Florida a year ago, 30 00:01:30,640 --> 00:01:32,800 I came home and the basement was flooded too. 31 00:01:32,800 --> 00:01:33,360 Yes. 32 00:01:33,360 --> 00:01:36,080 And in that case, though, it was, the sump pump was working. 33 00:01:36,080 --> 00:01:38,640 It just, the float thing got trapped down. 34 00:01:38,640 --> 00:01:39,120 Gotcha. 35 00:01:39,120 --> 00:01:43,040 And so it thought that it was, it thought that there was no water to pump. 36 00:01:44,000 --> 00:01:47,440 This time I reached in there and pushed the float, made sure it was free. 37 00:01:47,440 --> 00:01:50,400 Nothing happened. It briefly made a noise. 38 00:01:50,400 --> 00:01:53,520 And then I was like, well, let me just on, you know, how it has the like the two plugs, 39 00:01:53,520 --> 00:01:54,720 you know, one for the float. 40 00:01:54,720 --> 00:01:57,600 I unplugged that and plugged it directly in and I got nothing. 41 00:01:58,400 --> 00:02:03,200 And so I ran over to the Menards and bought a new one. 42 00:02:03,200 --> 00:02:09,200 And with the help of my father-in-law was just changing that out Wednesday night 43 00:02:09,200 --> 00:02:12,640 and standing in like literally water that was above my feet. 44 00:02:13,280 --> 00:02:14,080 I had water. 45 00:02:14,080 --> 00:02:15,760 So that was over the whole, because there's a, 46 00:02:15,760 --> 00:02:16,960 there's two parts of your basement. 47 00:02:16,960 --> 00:02:17,120 Yeah. 48 00:02:17,120 --> 00:02:18,320 So it was lower than the other. 49 00:02:18,320 --> 00:02:20,160 Right. So it was over the main part. 50 00:02:20,160 --> 00:02:22,080 That's the, the, the higher part. 51 00:02:22,080 --> 00:02:24,560 And so yeah, it was, it was not good. 52 00:02:24,560 --> 00:02:30,960 And, but since then, like it has been running not pretty much nonstop because we got a lot of rain. 53 00:02:30,960 --> 00:02:31,760 We got a lot of rain. 54 00:02:31,760 --> 00:02:36,400 And we had some that went rain on this time of year, what you can get is the double whammy, 55 00:02:36,400 --> 00:02:38,640 the rain on top of snow melt. 56 00:02:38,640 --> 00:02:38,960 Right. 57 00:02:38,960 --> 00:02:40,000 Happening at the same time. 58 00:02:40,000 --> 00:02:42,240 Right. So we haven't had much snow, so that's been okay. 59 00:02:42,800 --> 00:02:44,960 But yeah, it's been a week. 60 00:02:44,960 --> 00:02:45,760 Let me just tell you. 61 00:02:45,760 --> 00:02:46,640 Oh, Andy. 62 00:02:47,520 --> 00:02:50,560 Well, for all of you that, that know Andy's pain, 63 00:02:50,560 --> 00:02:56,480 feel free to send him good, good thoughts and continued, continued success in the 64 00:02:56,480 --> 00:03:01,120 something, in the pumping and the furnace situation. 65 00:03:01,120 --> 00:03:07,920 I will be honest with you, Andy, our furnace, I believe is original to our home 1979. 66 00:03:07,920 --> 00:03:08,640 Okay. 67 00:03:08,640 --> 00:03:11,040 And so I am waiting for that time. 68 00:03:11,040 --> 00:03:12,080 I am waiting for time. 69 00:03:12,080 --> 00:03:16,160 The inspections seem to be going okay, but like that's an old furnace and I too. 70 00:03:16,160 --> 00:03:16,640 Right. 71 00:03:16,640 --> 00:03:17,600 And waiting for the day. 72 00:03:17,600 --> 00:03:26,400 Well, I, to be honest, I went and I went and looked at the time that it was actually put in 73 00:03:26,400 --> 00:03:28,000 and it was 2000. 74 00:03:28,000 --> 00:03:29,520 And I was like, oh, that's not long ago. 75 00:03:29,520 --> 00:03:34,000 And then I realized that's 23 years ago, Joel, 23 years. 76 00:03:34,000 --> 00:03:36,720 And my furnace, usually furnaces don't last that long. 77 00:03:36,720 --> 00:03:39,760 No, they don't, which makes me think now, even as you're saying that, I'm like, no, 78 00:03:39,760 --> 00:03:40,160 that's right. 79 00:03:40,160 --> 00:03:41,280 Wait, 1979. 80 00:03:41,280 --> 00:03:42,800 That's your way over to you. 81 00:03:42,800 --> 00:03:44,000 That's as old as you. 82 00:03:44,000 --> 00:03:44,640 I am old. 83 00:03:44,640 --> 00:03:52,240 So that usually just for listeners, for our younger listeners to your point, 84 00:03:52,240 --> 00:03:54,000 usually furnaces are not as old as Andy. 85 00:03:54,000 --> 00:03:56,640 That doesn't, I've outlived most furnaces. 86 00:03:58,080 --> 00:04:00,000 When you put it that way, sounds more bad. 87 00:04:00,000 --> 00:04:01,040 But oh gosh. 88 00:04:01,040 --> 00:04:04,480 So yeah, there's, you know, that's, that's the kind of stuff that happens to all of us. 89 00:04:04,480 --> 00:04:04,800 Right. 90 00:04:04,800 --> 00:04:06,640 And we get older, furnace gets old. 91 00:04:06,640 --> 00:04:12,960 And in your case, it's like, there's nothing that says welcome back from a lovely Florida 92 00:04:12,960 --> 00:04:18,560 vacay, right? And like, it's a time of refreshing and like, yeah, it was, and you were down, 93 00:04:18,560 --> 00:04:23,680 you were down, you and, you and said, you and, you and Jackie. 94 00:04:23,680 --> 00:04:25,520 No, that's, that's my wife. 95 00:04:27,600 --> 00:04:27,840 Yeah. 96 00:04:28,720 --> 00:04:32,800 You and Julie were down there for a wonderful conference. 97 00:04:32,800 --> 00:04:35,440 And from the looks of it, you guys were having a blast. 98 00:04:35,440 --> 00:04:36,000 Yeah, we didn't. 99 00:04:36,000 --> 00:04:39,680 There's a nice photo out there of Andy holding a baby gator. 100 00:04:39,680 --> 00:04:39,840 Yeah. 101 00:04:39,840 --> 00:04:41,120 We might have to put that in our show notes. 102 00:04:41,120 --> 00:04:44,960 Yeah. I bet somebody, I bet a pastor a few years ago, and I should have known because 103 00:04:44,960 --> 00:04:47,200 he's pretty much down for anything to kiss it and he did. 104 00:04:47,200 --> 00:04:49,840 And so yeah, I lost. 105 00:04:49,840 --> 00:04:51,920 I know pastors that want to wrestle gators. 106 00:04:51,920 --> 00:04:53,520 Golly, that doesn't seem right. 107 00:04:53,520 --> 00:04:55,040 No, youth pastors though. 108 00:04:55,040 --> 00:04:55,200 Yeah. 109 00:04:56,480 --> 00:04:57,760 It's, it's really kind of fits. 110 00:04:57,760 --> 00:05:00,800 It's Darwinian, you know, they, if it's their time to go, it's their time to go. 111 00:05:01,680 --> 00:05:05,200 Well guys, we want to thank our sponsors today. 112 00:05:06,000 --> 00:05:09,840 This episode is brought to you by Everince support from Everince, 113 00:05:09,840 --> 00:05:12,880 comes from Everince financial helping individuals and organizations 114 00:05:12,880 --> 00:05:15,920 combine their faith and finances through retirement planning, 115 00:05:15,920 --> 00:05:18,720 banking, and other financial services. 116 00:05:18,720 --> 00:05:21,600 More at everince.com slash Michiana. 117 00:05:22,880 --> 00:05:29,360 And Andy, we're also looking for additional sponsors as always around here to jump on 118 00:05:29,360 --> 00:05:29,920 board with us. 119 00:05:29,920 --> 00:05:35,440 So if you or someone you know might want to become an official sponsor here for the dudes 120 00:05:35,440 --> 00:05:37,120 and dads podcast, you can, you know what? 121 00:05:37,120 --> 00:05:38,960 I'm just going to say you email Andy. 122 00:05:38,960 --> 00:05:42,000 You know, Andy at dudesanddadspodcast.com. 123 00:05:42,000 --> 00:05:43,680 We would love to have you guys as a sponsor. 124 00:05:43,680 --> 00:05:44,320 So yeah. 125 00:05:45,760 --> 00:05:52,160 And let's just, and let's just say that we are, we're continuing to grow this show. 126 00:05:52,160 --> 00:05:58,480 We are continuing to do all the things that a responsible podcasters do who are, 127 00:05:59,040 --> 00:06:03,760 you know, not too big for our britches, but who are wanting to bring excellence as, as it were. 128 00:06:03,760 --> 00:06:06,000 So there's some costs to that and things like that. 129 00:06:06,000 --> 00:06:09,680 So we always appreciate your support, sponsorships, all of that. 130 00:06:10,320 --> 00:06:17,120 And we have some opportunities and I will say just briefly, we're in, we're in talks. 131 00:06:17,120 --> 00:06:19,360 We're in talks with our good friends over at Everince. 132 00:06:19,360 --> 00:06:23,200 We have some opportunities to expand the reach of this podcast this year. 133 00:06:23,200 --> 00:06:28,000 So we are super excited about that and we're looking forward to all the opportunities. 134 00:06:28,000 --> 00:06:31,120 So what do you want to talk about next, Andy? 135 00:06:31,120 --> 00:06:33,440 Let's, well, our forging, I'm really interested. 136 00:06:33,440 --> 00:06:37,040 We're going to be talking tonight about forging landmark events with our kids. 137 00:06:37,040 --> 00:06:38,400 So let's talk a little bit about that. 138 00:06:38,400 --> 00:06:42,480 I know we've talked on the show before about doing things special with our kids and you've, 139 00:06:43,120 --> 00:06:46,560 we knew you've said you've always planned on doing something and you've done some things 140 00:06:46,560 --> 00:06:50,800 with your kids, but not necessarily at certain life events like ages. 141 00:06:50,800 --> 00:06:51,120 Yes. 142 00:06:51,120 --> 00:06:52,400 Things like that. 143 00:06:52,400 --> 00:07:00,160 So, but you are really quickly coming up to a, we are coming up, but I would like to, 144 00:07:00,160 --> 00:07:04,320 to welcome your oldest son, Aaron, I almost said Josiah, I'm sorry, Aaron. 145 00:07:04,320 --> 00:07:05,520 I almost called you the wrong name. 146 00:07:05,520 --> 00:07:06,960 Oh, hi, Aaron. 147 00:07:06,960 --> 00:07:07,760 He's just shaking his head. 148 00:07:07,760 --> 00:07:08,480 Hello. 149 00:07:08,480 --> 00:07:08,800 Hi. 150 00:07:09,440 --> 00:07:14,320 So yeah, so these kind of talking about like landmark events. 151 00:07:14,320 --> 00:07:17,120 So this is, this is what my game plan is. 152 00:07:17,120 --> 00:07:21,920 I had an initial game plan that was stunted due to the, the Rona virus. 153 00:07:23,120 --> 00:07:27,680 Initially we said when all the kiddos turned 10 years old, they'd get kind of like a, 154 00:07:27,680 --> 00:07:33,680 they get like a, a trip, like a weekend, a weekend trip that they would get to do with just me. 155 00:07:35,440 --> 00:07:38,480 But because of, because of, you can't, yeah. 156 00:07:38,480 --> 00:07:40,320 No, it was like, when they were turning, yeah. 157 00:07:40,320 --> 00:07:44,560 When they were, so they were turning those ages, whatever we were like, we scheduled, 158 00:07:44,560 --> 00:07:47,440 it was 2020 and then 2021 and just things were not open. 159 00:07:47,440 --> 00:07:49,040 It was a real, it was a real struggle. 160 00:07:49,040 --> 00:07:51,360 So we're like, okay, well, here's the deal. 161 00:07:52,000 --> 00:07:57,280 At age 13, so the spring or summer after each kiddo turns 13, that we get to do 162 00:07:57,280 --> 00:07:58,560 like a serious trip. 163 00:07:59,280 --> 00:08:03,360 And so Aaron is turning or turned 13, turned 13. 164 00:08:03,360 --> 00:08:08,000 Back in November and we said, what could we possibly do for a trip? 165 00:08:08,000 --> 00:08:11,840 So Aaron, what, what is it when you said out of all the things that you're like, 166 00:08:11,840 --> 00:08:15,120 what would be an amazing, fantastic thing to do for your trip? 167 00:08:15,120 --> 00:08:16,480 What did you select? 168 00:08:16,480 --> 00:08:18,560 Spring training in Phoenix, Arizona. 169 00:08:18,560 --> 00:08:20,400 Oh, yes. 170 00:08:20,400 --> 00:08:23,600 So we are hitting the friendly skies. 171 00:08:23,600 --> 00:08:28,080 Uh, Thursday late, well early Thursday evening. 172 00:08:28,960 --> 00:08:36,160 And we're headed down to Phoenix, Arizona to watch a couple of Cleveland Guardians games, 173 00:08:36,160 --> 00:08:40,160 which people ask, they want to know Joel, aren't you a Detroit Tigers fan? 174 00:08:40,160 --> 00:08:40,640 Yes. 175 00:08:40,640 --> 00:08:47,680 Yes, I am, but my eldest son, because God has a sense of humor is a Cleveland Guardians fan. 176 00:08:48,240 --> 00:08:53,360 He had a lot of influence from his, his other family, all those Cleveland, 177 00:08:53,360 --> 00:08:54,720 all those Cleveland people out there. 178 00:08:55,600 --> 00:08:58,720 I love you, but at the same time I have, I have some hurt feelings. 179 00:08:58,720 --> 00:09:01,680 Uh, you'd taken my children away from me. 180 00:09:01,680 --> 00:09:05,520 Well, I think it's just me and Matthew at this point. 181 00:09:05,520 --> 00:09:06,000 Yeah. 182 00:09:06,000 --> 00:09:06,800 That's true. 183 00:09:06,800 --> 00:09:07,760 That's probably true. 184 00:09:07,760 --> 00:09:13,360 Your side is a whoever gets there and they have met too much of an opinion on baseball. 185 00:09:13,360 --> 00:09:14,160 Gotcha. 186 00:09:14,160 --> 00:09:17,360 So we're going to, we're going to do some spring training, but we want to see some 187 00:09:17,360 --> 00:09:21,840 baseball games, but we're also, we got, we got some hikes planned up north of Phoenix 188 00:09:21,840 --> 00:09:26,000 toward the Sedona. Aaron and I might, depending on if we got the time to do it, 189 00:09:26,000 --> 00:09:30,560 we actually might go up into Flagstaff, which I've not, I've not gone up that far north yet. 190 00:09:31,360 --> 00:09:33,120 Aaron was like, well, could we go to the Grand Canyon? 191 00:09:33,120 --> 00:09:36,080 I'm like, turns out the Grand Canyon is like a long way north. 192 00:09:37,360 --> 00:09:40,560 Like it's, it's hard to, you don't really get a sense of, uh, right. 193 00:09:40,560 --> 00:09:45,920 It's a lot of desert driving up there, but, um, it's going to be, yeah, it's going to be a good 194 00:09:45,920 --> 00:09:46,800 time, I think. 195 00:09:47,440 --> 00:09:49,040 Joel, so I have a question for you. 196 00:09:49,040 --> 00:09:50,080 I'm going to ask both of you. 197 00:09:50,080 --> 00:09:51,280 Yeah, I like it. 198 00:09:51,280 --> 00:09:53,600 What do you hope to accomplish during this trip? 199 00:09:53,600 --> 00:09:55,680 Oh, that's a good one. 200 00:09:55,680 --> 00:09:58,320 Um, you know what, let's, let's do this. 201 00:09:58,320 --> 00:10:00,240 How about we ask Aaron the question first? 202 00:10:00,240 --> 00:10:00,480 All right. 203 00:10:00,480 --> 00:10:03,840 So I'm going to ask you, Aaron, what are you hoping to accomplish with this job? 204 00:10:03,840 --> 00:10:07,200 I know it's a trip that your dad has kind of said, Hey, I want to do this with you, 205 00:10:07,840 --> 00:10:10,960 but what are you hoping to accomplish besides seeing some baseball games? 206 00:10:11,760 --> 00:10:16,800 Um, well, me and my dad were talking about, we were thinking about going in, 207 00:10:16,800 --> 00:10:22,720 setting some goals for myself for the next, for the coming year, um, things I want to achieve 208 00:10:24,080 --> 00:10:32,480 in my life with like walking with better walk with Christ, um, walking better with 209 00:10:33,680 --> 00:10:38,560 balancing better with school and sports and all the others at all these other activities that 210 00:10:38,560 --> 00:10:39,040 I'm doing. 211 00:10:40,320 --> 00:10:42,080 All the activities. 212 00:10:42,080 --> 00:10:42,720 Yeah. 213 00:10:42,720 --> 00:10:43,120 Yeah. 214 00:10:43,120 --> 00:10:43,360 All right. 215 00:10:43,360 --> 00:10:44,560 So Joel, I'm flipping to you. 216 00:10:44,560 --> 00:10:44,800 Yeah. 217 00:10:44,800 --> 00:10:45,840 That's, that's good. 218 00:10:45,840 --> 00:10:46,400 What about you? 219 00:10:46,400 --> 00:10:48,400 What are you hoping to accomplish with this trip you're taking with Aaron? 220 00:10:48,400 --> 00:10:49,840 All those things that he just said. 221 00:10:49,840 --> 00:10:54,240 So I think, um, and this is on, this is on me too. 222 00:10:54,240 --> 00:10:59,680 Like we talk about spiritual growth when we talk about discipleship, um, these last few 223 00:10:59,680 --> 00:11:05,040 months, if I'm really, really honest, and this has a lot to do with my job transition. 224 00:11:05,040 --> 00:11:09,600 It has a lot to do with just this season that we find ourselves in, you know, I, 225 00:11:10,400 --> 00:11:13,440 and, and I will say like my wife challenged me in this the other day, you know, 226 00:11:13,440 --> 00:11:19,200 uh, trying to, when we talk about setting goals for our spiritual growth and what that really 227 00:11:19,200 --> 00:11:25,600 looks like and trying to model those sort of things, um, I'm hoping that Aaron and I can 228 00:11:25,600 --> 00:11:30,240 have conversations around the idea of, of why those things are important. 229 00:11:30,240 --> 00:11:34,960 Um, the experiences that I've had in my own life, uh, toward, toward that end and also 230 00:11:34,960 --> 00:11:38,400 say things like, you know, I'm not exactly thrilled with where it's at right now. 231 00:11:38,400 --> 00:11:39,680 Like I, I'm still growing too. 232 00:11:39,680 --> 00:11:40,800 I'm still learning too. 233 00:11:40,800 --> 00:11:47,760 Um, but it seems like there's a, there's a val, like there's just a value in setting this time 234 00:11:47,760 --> 00:11:52,080 aside to, to have that kind of conversation uninterrupted. I'm sure you get it, Andy, 235 00:11:52,080 --> 00:11:56,480 like having uninterrupted conversations with intentionality and meaning it, 236 00:11:56,480 --> 00:11:59,920 it can really feel like you'd have to fight for them. 237 00:11:59,920 --> 00:12:02,800 Yeah. Definitely. And I think, you know, the times that you can get away 238 00:12:03,520 --> 00:12:06,400 and have that, you know, I know that that was one of the things that I appreciated about this 239 00:12:06,400 --> 00:12:09,200 last week when I was with Julie is we, you know, we did have time away. 240 00:12:09,200 --> 00:12:12,800 I mean, we were with people, we were with her stat, her, you know, co-workers, 241 00:12:12,800 --> 00:12:16,800 but the time that we got to spend together was really good. 242 00:12:16,800 --> 00:12:18,800 And we had some, some good conversations too. 243 00:12:19,280 --> 00:12:24,720 Yeah. There's, uh, there's just, there could be a really sacred thing about setting, 244 00:12:24,720 --> 00:12:31,040 setting those things, uh, setting down part and doing it. And I life, life feels so full right 245 00:12:31,040 --> 00:12:35,200 now that I think it's, it's going to take us getting on an airplane, you know, which 246 00:12:35,200 --> 00:12:41,040 there's been several times where, you know, there isn't expense to this, right? And there is a, 247 00:12:41,040 --> 00:12:45,840 there is, you know, I'm only two months into a new job, an executive job. 248 00:12:46,400 --> 00:12:50,320 Um, I got lots of things to do on the work calendar for sure. 249 00:12:51,520 --> 00:12:55,920 But at the same time, it's like, if I don't do this, when, you know, you just kind of got to 250 00:12:55,920 --> 00:13:00,080 pull the band-aid off. Yeah, right. You keep, it's easy to push things back because, you know, 251 00:13:00,080 --> 00:13:05,520 you have life and things like that. But what you're saying and what I hear you're saying is 252 00:13:05,520 --> 00:13:13,280 this is important time with Aaron specifically is important to have the one-on-one time to get, 253 00:13:13,280 --> 00:13:18,000 to bond your relationship with him. And then it also gives your other kids something to look 254 00:13:18,000 --> 00:13:22,000 forward to too. You know, Aaron can come back and say, Hey guys, this is a lot of fun. 255 00:13:22,800 --> 00:13:26,640 And it gives them something to look forward to. And hopefully it will not incite major jealousy 256 00:13:26,640 --> 00:13:31,280 amongst his next youngest brother, which like, and that's the thing we, Josiah and I have already 257 00:13:31,280 --> 00:13:35,520 talked about what he would like to do for his trip. He was, he was pretty quick in responding. 258 00:13:36,320 --> 00:13:43,680 He wants, Josiah wants to do like a, uh, it's very much more up the Boy Scout, uh, like intentional, 259 00:13:43,680 --> 00:13:51,040 like, um, uh, like outdoor, like outdoor adventure activities sort of thing. And he 260 00:13:51,040 --> 00:13:57,680 initially said he wanted to hit, he wanted to go to, um, well, he said Denver first, 261 00:13:57,680 --> 00:14:01,120 he wanted to go out, he wanted to go out to Colorado, whatever. And the, the deals with 262 00:14:01,120 --> 00:14:07,200 that, like I'm all good with that. Um, but it's a, like that whole thing was like, I wanted to 263 00:14:07,200 --> 00:14:11,360 do something that was reasonably enough familiar to me that I could like, I had confidence that I 264 00:14:11,360 --> 00:14:16,400 could plan something well. So then we got talking about, it was like, well, what elements did he 265 00:14:16,400 --> 00:14:20,480 really want to do that were really important? And it was like, I think boundary waters up, 266 00:14:20,480 --> 00:14:26,240 northern Minnesota and, uh, into Canada could be, could kind of hit all the, the markers for him. So 267 00:14:26,240 --> 00:14:30,880 that's the, that's what we're talking about for next, uh, for 2024 for him. So 268 00:14:30,880 --> 00:14:35,360 he's already thinking about it and it's good. And hopefully you can be patient enough and 269 00:14:35,360 --> 00:14:44,000 hopefully his older brother will not rub it in his face. So are there any like rules or like 270 00:14:44,000 --> 00:14:47,440 guidelines that you're having for this trip? I mean, no, it's something, I mean, and I think 271 00:14:47,440 --> 00:14:52,400 I'm probably specifically asking you, you drew on planning the trip, Joel. Um, Aaron's along for 272 00:14:52,400 --> 00:14:58,560 the ride, but, uh, but what, what are some of the ground rules or things that you're looking for? 273 00:14:58,560 --> 00:15:01,600 Well, I was going to ask, I was going to ask Aaron actually, because we haven't had this 274 00:15:01,600 --> 00:15:06,800 conversation about what he thinks maybe like one good guideline for us to have on this trip 275 00:15:06,800 --> 00:15:11,040 to like help make it meaningful. Like what's something that like a practice that we could 276 00:15:11,040 --> 00:15:17,440 both put into play? Um, limit our time on our phone. That's a good one. That's a good one, right? 277 00:15:17,440 --> 00:15:24,080 Yeah. And I've been thinking about that, like to try to be as present as, as possible, um, 278 00:15:25,040 --> 00:15:30,720 in our, in our time. Now, fortunately for some of our, like our hike day, our phones won't work 279 00:15:30,720 --> 00:15:34,960 worth a darn where we're going anyway. So those are always the best days. You don't have that 280 00:15:34,960 --> 00:15:40,640 choice if you are in it. Yeah. Yeah. But I think that's a, I think that's an excellent one. Um, 281 00:15:40,640 --> 00:15:46,560 I think to a certain degree, I want to have, I want to have planned time like he and I, we have, 282 00:15:47,120 --> 00:15:51,280 we have a couple of itineraries that are itineraries that are given to us, so to speak. 283 00:15:51,840 --> 00:15:55,120 Um, as part of the things, some of the things we're participating in, but 284 00:15:55,120 --> 00:16:00,080 I want to have both scheduled and unscheduled time and try to hold that, you know, pretty, 285 00:16:00,080 --> 00:16:06,720 pretty clearly. Um, you know, it'll be interesting where we're going to, we'll be getting up. It'll 286 00:16:06,720 --> 00:16:10,640 feel like we're getting up real early while we're over there with the time, with the time difference. 287 00:16:10,640 --> 00:16:16,640 Right. So, but, you know, getting up, getting up each day at a certain time, kind of being on task. 288 00:16:17,200 --> 00:16:19,920 When I say on task, like that makes it sound like this is like, 289 00:16:20,720 --> 00:16:26,560 like work, but more like we are, we're scheduling fun, uh, each, each day. 290 00:16:26,560 --> 00:16:30,560 Right. But I think that that's important though to have. I mean, yes, it's, it's fun, but on, 291 00:16:30,560 --> 00:16:37,600 and I think what I'm hearing you say on is on task is you mean like, yeah, scheduling fun and it 292 00:16:37,600 --> 00:16:43,120 means doing purposeful thing. Yes. Not necessarily just, I'm just going to lay around and lay around 293 00:16:43,120 --> 00:16:49,120 for three hours because I can, like it's more of you getting up, you doing A, B and C, because 294 00:16:49,120 --> 00:16:55,840 that's what your plan is. That's what I'm hearing. Right. Yeah. I think, I think so. So, you know, 295 00:16:55,840 --> 00:17:02,160 we've got, uh, really three full, three full days that we'll be there with travel days on 296 00:17:02,160 --> 00:17:09,280 the, the first day and the last day. And so, um, you know, a lot of, between that, a lot of car 297 00:17:09,280 --> 00:17:14,400 time and, uh, I think, you know, make sure that we're well rested for all of them so that when we 298 00:17:14,400 --> 00:17:19,600 are, that's the other thing, like when we are together, we're, you know, we're with it and, 299 00:17:20,880 --> 00:17:23,040 you can talk about the things we got to talk about. So. 300 00:17:23,040 --> 00:17:30,000 All right. So I'm going to be asking Aaron this one specifically. What are some 301 00:17:31,440 --> 00:17:35,040 conversations, is there conversations that you want to have with your dad, 302 00:17:35,040 --> 00:17:39,600 or you're hoping to say, to talk to him about, then this may, you, you can choose not to answer 303 00:17:39,600 --> 00:17:44,800 that. That's a hard question. I mean, you may or may not know what kind of things you want to 304 00:17:44,800 --> 00:17:50,320 talk to your dad about. Um, so earlier I was reading part, some part of the, part of the 305 00:17:50,320 --> 00:17:54,880 Bible and I was asking him certain questions about things I didn't understand. I would love to 306 00:17:54,880 --> 00:17:59,200 ask more questions about that while we're out there. Awesome. Oh, well there's, I better get 307 00:17:59,200 --> 00:18:03,360 studied up. Well, Andy, by the way, you know what every, you know what every 13 year old, 308 00:18:03,360 --> 00:18:09,120 what book of the Bible they go to right away, Revelation. And so I was getting a lot of questions 309 00:18:09,120 --> 00:18:14,400 about lampstands and angels and things like that, which I love, which I absolutely love that. Um, 310 00:18:14,400 --> 00:18:20,800 and then I, I made Aaron aware that there was over 350 Old Testament references in the book of 311 00:18:20,800 --> 00:18:25,360 Revelation alone and that maybe we should, we should start, we should start back in the beginning. 312 00:18:26,000 --> 00:18:32,880 But yeah, like I think like that, that sort of thing, you know, those, those sort of questions, 313 00:18:32,880 --> 00:18:37,120 what I've become aware of is that Aaron, Aaron has things inside of him that he's, 314 00:18:37,680 --> 00:18:43,360 he's wondering about or thinking about or whatever. And, you know, just because of busy 315 00:18:43,360 --> 00:18:47,680 lives, like how much of that stuff like, yeah, is he, is he holding on to, you know, and thinking 316 00:18:47,680 --> 00:18:52,080 like, Oh, I'd like to ask this or I'd like to have this conversation. But again, when are we 317 00:18:52,080 --> 00:18:56,720 going to have the space to do it? How are we going to do that? And so part of it might be 318 00:18:58,080 --> 00:19:02,960 that through this experience that we, we make some new goals about how we schedule our time and 319 00:19:02,960 --> 00:19:07,200 regulate our time back here, back here at home. You know, I think that could, that could be a 320 00:19:07,200 --> 00:19:13,120 really, really good thing too. So. So Joel, I'm going to ask you and again, you can choose not 321 00:19:13,120 --> 00:19:17,440 to answer this because same question, but I know that, you know, some of these things you may want 322 00:19:17,440 --> 00:19:22,240 to wait until you're out there to even say sure, but are there any questions, you know, 323 00:19:22,240 --> 00:19:26,080 things that you want conversations that you want to have with Aaron that you can talk about now? 324 00:19:26,080 --> 00:19:34,560 Yeah, I mean, I'm, I'm interested in knowing, I think a big part of our conversation will be like 325 00:19:34,560 --> 00:19:43,280 how he, how he sees me as a father, how he receives me as a dad. We're even asking, 326 00:19:43,280 --> 00:19:48,160 which is a dangerous thing for a father to ask their, ask their kid like, Hey, where can I get 327 00:19:48,160 --> 00:19:55,520 better? You know, where, where can I, where can I improve? You know, some dads, some dads might 328 00:19:55,520 --> 00:20:00,960 feel like, you know, that they're, they're not, they're not going to put it out to a survey to 329 00:20:00,960 --> 00:20:05,440 their, to their minor child about, you know, about their parenting. And it's like, not so much like, 330 00:20:05,440 --> 00:20:12,080 not so much about my parenting, but just generally like, yeah, like how the core things that I want 331 00:20:12,080 --> 00:20:16,400 to model to my kids, I can say left and right, you know, like, I think I'm doing a good job of 332 00:20:16,400 --> 00:20:21,040 modeling those things. But if they're not receiving it in the way in which I hope that they're receiving 333 00:20:21,040 --> 00:20:24,480 it, then it's kind of like, it's kind of a pointless exercise and me just kind of padding 334 00:20:24,480 --> 00:20:31,840 myself on the back. So I think like I'm, I have been this last week and this week too, 335 00:20:31,840 --> 00:20:37,200 I'm kind of like writing lists of those kind of, those kind of questions, trying to drill down and 336 00:20:37,200 --> 00:20:42,080 be kind of very specific. I know Aaron really likes it when my get, my questions get very 337 00:20:42,080 --> 00:20:46,960 specific and pointed and not, not just too vague and then too, and too broad. Yeah. 338 00:20:46,960 --> 00:20:54,640 So Christy Miller is watching and she says, awesome, awesome. So yeah, just thought you should, 339 00:20:54,640 --> 00:21:05,200 you should know that. So you're taking a pretty large trip, Joel. It is, it's, it's, it is, 340 00:21:05,200 --> 00:21:09,200 it's large. I mean, you're, you're not like just going next door to ship shawana. I mean, 341 00:21:09,200 --> 00:21:14,960 nothing wrong with our wonderful friends and ship she, yeah, but you're taking this trip 342 00:21:14,960 --> 00:21:18,880 a long distance. Is this something, a trip that you could take close by, 343 00:21:18,880 --> 00:21:21,680 or does it have to be where you're going to travel halfway around the country, 344 00:21:21,680 --> 00:21:25,600 around the world or whatever? Like, does that, yeah, yeah. 345 00:21:25,600 --> 00:21:29,760 That's a really great question. I think, I think to each individual, 346 00:21:31,760 --> 00:21:36,160 if someone's looking to do something like this, I think, I think you could go a little ways away. 347 00:21:37,280 --> 00:21:42,240 For us in this season of life, I'm wondering if Aaron feels the same way. It feels like we 348 00:21:42,240 --> 00:21:49,680 have to do something pretty drastic to sort of like, to sort of unplug. Like we, like we have to go 349 00:21:50,560 --> 00:21:54,960 to a place that is, because like Aaron and I are doing, by the way, 350 00:21:54,960 --> 00:21:58,560 Aaron and I are doing this thing together and we're doing things for the first that 351 00:21:58,560 --> 00:22:02,080 both of us are doing for the first time. Some of these, some of these places, some of these 352 00:22:02,080 --> 00:22:08,240 experiences. Some of this, some of the stuff I've done, I have done before because there is a certain 353 00:22:08,240 --> 00:22:14,640 element of like, I do want to have some knowledge about what we're getting into. 354 00:22:16,880 --> 00:22:21,520 But I think the, I think the newness and the uniqueness that kind of shakes us out of our 355 00:22:21,520 --> 00:22:28,720 everyday routine can put us in a different mindset to, yeah, to explore new questions, 356 00:22:28,720 --> 00:22:34,080 to ask new things of each other, to have just kind of that kind of perspective. So, 357 00:22:34,080 --> 00:22:37,040 you know, maybe you don't have to, maybe you don't have to travel a long ways, but 358 00:22:37,040 --> 00:22:40,960 I could see why you would have to though, because I think that it does provide that 359 00:22:41,760 --> 00:22:45,680 where you're both out of your element. You're both traveling to somewhere that's not 360 00:22:45,680 --> 00:22:49,360 familiar with yourself. You don't, you've never been there, even if you have been there before, 361 00:22:49,360 --> 00:22:54,880 but it's not something that you're normally around. Whereas, you know, for us, if you go to 362 00:22:54,880 --> 00:22:58,720 Shubshawana or South Bend, it's not, those are things that are bad. I mean, those can be fun 363 00:22:58,720 --> 00:23:04,320 memories and great ways to make memories with your family. But when you're doing a special 364 00:23:04,320 --> 00:23:10,560 trip where you're trying to make the whole trip extraordinary and special, and this time where 365 00:23:10,560 --> 00:23:14,480 you get some bonding, I think a longer trip does help that. 366 00:23:14,480 --> 00:23:18,000 Well, it's like I think about your guys' trip as a family, like the things that you did out west. 367 00:23:18,000 --> 00:23:24,800 Oh yeah. Like that is, there's the adventure part of that, the new, you know, kind of the 368 00:23:24,800 --> 00:23:30,000 breaking new ground as a family and those experiences that are new together. You know, 369 00:23:30,000 --> 00:23:34,320 that, that, that forges, that forges unique things and hopefully makes memories that 370 00:23:34,320 --> 00:23:38,880 people, that everyone will look fondly. Right. And we do, we have, you know, those trips when 371 00:23:38,880 --> 00:23:43,520 you're, when you're spending a lot of time together as a family that's out of your ordinary, 372 00:23:43,520 --> 00:23:49,200 as, you know, it's put us, it's baked those memories into our brains that we still look back 373 00:23:49,200 --> 00:23:55,040 and the kids go, remember that time that dad heard the coyotes cry and he was like running down the 374 00:23:55,040 --> 00:23:58,880 thing? That was great. Cause yeah, I said, I was running cause I didn't know where they were at. 375 00:23:58,880 --> 00:24:03,520 Like I could just hear them crying and I didn't, I didn't, I didn't know if they were close to me 376 00:24:03,520 --> 00:24:07,360 or far and was that the time when you were camping with us that you're talking about? Or was this 377 00:24:07,360 --> 00:24:11,040 a different experience? This is a different one. That was a good one too. You have a lot of coyotes. 378 00:24:11,040 --> 00:24:15,600 Right. That was a good one too. That was when Eli was little and we were, they were crying. 379 00:24:15,600 --> 00:24:21,280 Eli was crying and they were crying back and answering him. Eli's, Eli's young baby cries 380 00:24:21,280 --> 00:24:27,920 apparently sound a lot like a pack of coyotes, coyote pups. Right. So just so you know what you 381 00:24:27,920 --> 00:24:35,760 like. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. So yeah, I think, uh, I think the distance can be, I think there probably 382 00:24:35,760 --> 00:24:40,800 needs to be some level of minimal distance, uh, just to, to break up the norm. Uh, but you know, 383 00:24:40,800 --> 00:24:48,240 maybe don't have to go to Phoenix or wherever. I don't know. Yeah. So is this trip like ultimately, 384 00:24:48,240 --> 00:24:52,000 what do you think is the most, gonna be the most memorable part about this? And I'm going to ask 385 00:24:52,000 --> 00:24:55,360 Aaron that like, what are you looking forward to right now? I mean, obviously you can't say what's 386 00:24:55,360 --> 00:25:00,640 going to be the most memorable for sure, because you've not experienced it. But what is something 387 00:25:00,640 --> 00:25:05,040 that you think right now that you're really looking forward to for this trip? 388 00:25:06,480 --> 00:25:14,080 Um, the watching baseball for the first time down in Phoenix. It's something I've wanted to do. 389 00:25:14,800 --> 00:25:20,080 It was what in the first, first it would be, um, going to an opening day game, 390 00:25:20,080 --> 00:25:27,920 but I did that last year when, um, my, when we were out in Philadelphia to, you went to the, 391 00:25:28,560 --> 00:25:34,160 yeah, we saw the Phillies, Phillies opener. Oh, nice. And I was not too happy that my six-year-old 392 00:25:34,160 --> 00:25:41,440 sister gets to go to an opening big day game when, when I wanted to go, when I was six and I was 393 00:25:41,440 --> 00:25:46,720 told no. Yeah. Yeah. We keep on telling, we keep on telling Aaron, he's not as cute as she is. So 394 00:25:46,720 --> 00:25:51,040 she just gets whatever. It's the only girl she gets. And she's the last, the last that just 395 00:25:51,040 --> 00:25:55,280 happened. Joel, I'm going to ask the same question. What are you looking forward to most about this 396 00:25:55,280 --> 00:26:00,400 trip and what memories that you're hoping to accomplish? Yeah, I think the big thing is, it's 397 00:26:00,400 --> 00:26:07,520 just time with, uh, time with Aaron. Obviously, Andy, we talk about it all the time, uh, us and 398 00:26:07,520 --> 00:26:12,560 our big families, it's like you want to have individual time with your kids. It feels like 399 00:26:12,560 --> 00:26:18,560 those opportunities are, you just have to work really, really hard for it. So the fact that 400 00:26:18,560 --> 00:26:24,000 we've got this time scheduled out, um, and no matter what, we're going to have it. And, you 401 00:26:24,000 --> 00:26:28,720 know, it's, it's time on the plane, time in the car, time on the trail, time in the ball field. 402 00:26:28,720 --> 00:26:32,400 You're going to have a lot of time. Yeah. And I'm really, really grateful for that. And that's 403 00:26:32,400 --> 00:26:40,080 what I'm, I'm looking forward to. I think, I mean, the really, the ultimate goal is that, 404 00:26:40,080 --> 00:26:43,520 you know, Aaron and I are able to look back on this, you know, years from now, we'll have 405 00:26:43,520 --> 00:26:48,240 like significant, significant memories about it. And that it'll be something that's kind of like, 406 00:26:49,120 --> 00:26:53,680 you know, like we said it, they're, they're kind of these landmark events, you know, 407 00:26:53,680 --> 00:26:58,160 I don't know what the next, I mean, I have a feeling I know what the next landmark event will be. 408 00:26:58,160 --> 00:27:03,680 And it's probably for Aaron, it's probably when, uh, he graduates, you know, graduates high school. 409 00:27:03,680 --> 00:27:08,720 You got one of those landmark events coming around the sooner than I do. Um, you know, 410 00:27:08,720 --> 00:27:12,480 and then it's, it's graduates high school and then whatever he decides to do after high school. 411 00:27:12,480 --> 00:27:18,160 And then it's, you know, if he, you know, it's like, like very quickly, like the world, the 412 00:27:18,160 --> 00:27:24,480 time begins to speed up and in so many ways. So absolutely. This kind of feels like, not to put 413 00:27:24,480 --> 00:27:29,920 a big bunch of pressure on it, but it feels like this is probably one thing in a series of very 414 00:27:29,920 --> 00:27:34,320 significant things over the next five, six years. Okay. So the follow up question to that is, 415 00:27:34,320 --> 00:27:37,680 is this, is there something larger that you're hoping to accomplish? You're like, 416 00:27:37,680 --> 00:27:42,480 is this trip part of a larger plan? What's the follow up after this? Yeah. Yeah. You mentioned 417 00:27:42,480 --> 00:27:47,440 like more landmark events coming up. So do you see yourself doing more trips like this? Or 418 00:27:47,440 --> 00:27:51,920 what's the, what's the next thing? Yep. So Aaron obviously is the guinea pig for just in general 419 00:27:51,920 --> 00:27:57,600 for these 13 year old trips, uh, to figure out what's going to be. You could say you're forging 420 00:27:57,600 --> 00:28:01,920 like new things. You're making the, you're the one that made him a dad. You're the one that 421 00:28:01,920 --> 00:28:08,240 you're like, yeah, you're the first for it. Yeah. Um, so just in general, as far as our practice 422 00:28:08,240 --> 00:28:15,040 with this, I think it's going to be good. Um, but yeah, the other, other events, um, you know, 423 00:28:15,040 --> 00:28:20,400 as Aaron mentioned, kind of some goal setting, I think annual goal setting for us as a family for 424 00:28:21,920 --> 00:28:28,560 yeah, for Aaron, um, just as he enters into more and more responsibility, I mean, 425 00:28:28,560 --> 00:28:33,200 it's a conversation we're having with him. It's a conversation we're having with Josiah as well, 426 00:28:33,200 --> 00:28:39,760 like with every year that passes, there are more responsibilities that come and come into play. Um, 427 00:28:39,760 --> 00:28:44,640 you've got a new, you know, a new driver and you're in your household and we have those, 428 00:28:44,640 --> 00:28:49,040 you know, use the same kind of conversations. Hey, with this responsibility becomes, you know, 429 00:28:49,040 --> 00:28:56,320 comes these things with it attached to it. And, um, I want to a little, in a little bit of a way, 430 00:28:56,320 --> 00:29:01,520 I, I'm hoping that this is, this is ushering in more of those kinds of conversations of, you know, 431 00:29:02,800 --> 00:29:07,760 you are gaining in these, uh, these giftings and these things that we're trying, we want to bless 432 00:29:07,760 --> 00:29:12,400 you with and with that comes, you know, these responsibilities. I think also just in terms 433 00:29:12,400 --> 00:29:20,320 of being intentional as a, as a family, um, you know, uh, I have some other, I have some other 434 00:29:20,320 --> 00:29:26,400 actually like probably like small, um, small trips. There's one trip that I really want to do with 435 00:29:26,400 --> 00:29:29,600 Aaron and I want to do probably with Aaron. I might do it with Aaron and Josiah at one, 436 00:29:29,600 --> 00:29:35,760 at one time, but there's, uh, it's, uh, I'm going to call it, uh, I'm going to call it a faith 437 00:29:35,760 --> 00:29:41,680 formation field trip. And it's where, um, we had talked about this earlier actually, Andy, 438 00:29:41,680 --> 00:29:46,960 with, uh, John Tyson's book, the intentional father where he took his son to all these like 439 00:29:46,960 --> 00:29:51,760 significant places from his childhood where like, uh, where he had learned significant life lessons. 440 00:29:51,760 --> 00:29:57,600 Sure. Um, both like practical, the spiritual side of it, all, all those sort of things, 441 00:29:57,600 --> 00:30:02,720 like took them to the place, put their feet on the ground there. And he was, he was from Australia. 442 00:30:02,720 --> 00:30:07,280 So that meant part, one of the things in that, like he went to, took his kid to his first job. 443 00:30:07,280 --> 00:30:11,680 Uh, was that a, was that a, was that a butcher shop? Actually, when he was a teenager that a 444 00:30:11,680 --> 00:30:16,000 butcher shop and turns out the guy that owned the butcher shop was still like still there. 445 00:30:16,000 --> 00:30:20,800 Wow. That's cool. And able to like introduce him to like things like that. So I, I think 446 00:30:21,600 --> 00:30:28,240 to, to give my, give my kids a little bit of the grounding of like how, how I was formed, 447 00:30:28,240 --> 00:30:32,320 you know, with the, the significant events that were in my life and to have them kind of see 448 00:30:32,320 --> 00:30:38,240 those places. Um, and then, yeah, and I think, you know, just some other, other practices out of 449 00:30:38,240 --> 00:30:44,240 this that'll probably kind of, kind of kick off. So I feel it feels like there's just, um, 450 00:30:44,240 --> 00:30:50,080 um, hopefully several opportunities to be continually intentional that are kind of rooted 451 00:30:50,080 --> 00:30:52,640 back to these, this kind of initial kickoff trip. 452 00:30:52,640 --> 00:30:57,120 Great. I'm hoping to, when you come back to have a debrief and talk a little bit, 453 00:30:57,120 --> 00:31:01,280 and maybe we can do that as an extra episode, a bonus episode or something on this cause 454 00:31:01,280 --> 00:31:06,640 kind of do a debrief on this. But you know what, Joel, we can't let anyone get out of here, 455 00:31:06,640 --> 00:31:08,400 even Aaron, without doing, 456 00:31:08,400 --> 00:31:11,280 Now it's time for the dudes and dads pop quiz. 457 00:31:11,280 --> 00:31:16,320 All right. So if you have never joined us, the dudes and dads pop quiz is just a time and to 458 00:31:17,120 --> 00:31:20,160 I'm going to, I don't even want to use the word pepper. I'm just going to say throw 459 00:31:20,160 --> 00:31:23,920 here at Aaron. I'm going to throw random questions at Aaron. Like literally, I'm just 460 00:31:23,920 --> 00:31:30,000 going to throw this, this card at you. Uh, no, no, not really. Um, all right. So I will go first, 461 00:31:30,000 --> 00:31:33,520 Joel. Okay. Uh, and maybe, maybe you should take this deck of cards with you so that you 462 00:31:33,520 --> 00:31:40,160 can just ask him on the grip. Yeah. Oh, this is a good one for this. What are you most excited 463 00:31:40,160 --> 00:31:45,040 about right now? Going to Phoenix Arizona. That was like, that was like a giveaway. That 464 00:31:45,040 --> 00:31:50,640 throwaway question. That was easy. Do I get another, do you want me to pull from the deck? 465 00:31:50,640 --> 00:31:55,360 I can, you just, you just ask him. Go ahead. Oh, that's cool. If there was a sandwich named 466 00:31:55,360 --> 00:32:03,920 after you, what would be on it? It would be an all meat sandwich with tomato, pickle and mayo. 467 00:32:03,920 --> 00:32:13,520 So like no bread and just meat. Yeah. What kind of meat? Um, salami, bacon, sausage, pepperoni, 468 00:32:13,520 --> 00:32:19,520 tricky and ham. Oh, like everything, like all the meats, all the meats, all the meats. Wow. 469 00:32:19,520 --> 00:32:25,200 The Aaron, I can't wait to try that sometime. What technology do you wish existed? 470 00:32:27,280 --> 00:32:32,400 Teleportation. I think that might have been, I think a lot of people say teleportation. 471 00:32:32,400 --> 00:32:37,760 No, no teleportation. Like just like not time wise, right? You're just going to different 472 00:32:37,760 --> 00:32:42,480 places. Like, so you could be like, I'm just in the Arizona. Nope. No airplane or if any, 473 00:32:42,480 --> 00:32:47,120 or like you could travel through a screen, travel through a screen to a place. Oh, 474 00:32:47,120 --> 00:32:51,360 interesting. It's like if you're FaceTiming someone, you'd be there. Yeah, you should go there. 475 00:32:52,480 --> 00:32:57,760 Apple. Good on that. Good on that. All right. Um, what characteristic are you most known for? 476 00:32:57,760 --> 00:33:03,360 I know you're only 13, but athleticism, athleticism. You're, you're, you're, you're most known for 477 00:33:03,360 --> 00:33:10,000 your athleticism. I think so. That Aaron. He is known for his athleticism. Interesting. I'm going 478 00:33:10,000 --> 00:33:19,920 to last one here. Um, Andy's gotta go. Some of these cars are not great to ask for a kid. 479 00:33:19,920 --> 00:33:23,120 Which words or phrases do you most overuse? 480 00:33:23,120 --> 00:33:30,880 I don't know. All right. So maybe I should ask Joel that. What's the most overused phrase that 481 00:33:30,880 --> 00:33:40,800 he uses? I'm trying to think what, uh, oh, this, I'm bro. Bro. Is it bro or bra? One or the other? 482 00:33:40,800 --> 00:33:49,280 I, I doubt that. You doubt it? Bro. You interject it all over the, bro. No, no, I don't. You do. 483 00:33:49,280 --> 00:33:55,040 Mike has been on this cake of literally like, I'm literally doing this. I'm literally. 484 00:33:55,040 --> 00:34:13,040 Wait, wait, wait, wait. 100% 100% 100% 100% 100% 100% 100% 100% 100% 100% 100% 100% 100% 485 00:34:13,040 --> 00:34:20,800 no 100% Yes, I think your mamas. Your mom, your mama is calling you out there. She's saying 100%. 486 00:34:20,800 --> 00:34:26,080 So, uh, well, Aaron, we've really, really appreciate you been in on here. 487 00:34:29,920 --> 00:34:33,680 So we've really appreciated you being on the show today. Anything that you want to 488 00:34:34,720 --> 00:34:41,040 say before you or leave the show. That you didn't, you didn't ask you. Is there anything you want 489 00:34:41,040 --> 00:34:44,840 You want to say no, you know, do you feel, do you feel like this has been a good 490 00:34:44,840 --> 00:34:48,600 episode? All know. Yeah, I think it's going well. I think we're, uh, 491 00:34:48,960 --> 00:34:52,320 we're training our future generation or five podcasters, Andy. I think we're, 492 00:34:52,360 --> 00:34:56,880 we're on to something. Hey, everybody. 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