Shelley Johnson

This is Women Road warriors with Shelley Johnson and Kathy Ticaro.

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From the corporate office to the cab of a truck, they're here to inspire and empower women in all professions.

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Kathy Taccaro

Welcome.

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We're an award winning show dedicated to empowering women in every profession through inspiring stories and expert insights.

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No topics off limits on our show, we power women on the road to success with expert and celebrity interviews and information you need.

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I'm Shelley and this is Kathy.

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Who says women can't do what they want whenever they want and make a huge difference in people's lives.

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Imagine going back to get your master's in music after being a music and dance instructor, author and motivational speaker and ramp it up to a new level to front your son's rock band.

Kathy Taccaro

At the age of 57, Joan Minery did just that.

Kathy Taccaro

Her motto is sing it loud, sing it proud, whatever it takes.

Kathy Taccaro

She also got famous as a female Elvis impersonator.

Kathy Taccaro

Joan describes herself as a pint sized blonde glitter Dolly Parton.

Kathy Taccaro

Her son's band is called Civil, which is Elvis spelled backwards.

Kathy Taccaro

They play Everything from the 50s to current day rock along with southern rock and original music.

Kathy Taccaro

Joan refers to herself as the little engine that can.

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5ft 2 inches of peppy dynamite.

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This pint sized energizer bunny is a beacon of energy as she entertains with her son's band and does motivational showcases in music, vocal and dance fitness classes across North America.

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Her undergraduate degree is in child studies with a diploma in Early Childhood education.

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She's received awards for her volunteerism and health advocacy.

Kathy Taccaro

In 2017, Joan was a finalist for the Order of Ontario for Leading Young Persons toward Music and Health.

Kathy Taccaro

We've got Joan with us today and we're looking forward to learning more about her.

Kathy Taccaro

Welcome Joan.

Kathy Taccaro

You are amazing.

Kathy Taccaro

Thank you for being on the show.

Joan Minery

Woohoo.

Joan Minery

Thank you.

Joan Minery

Quite the rock star.

Joan Minery

Thank you.

Joan Minery

Homework.

Joan Minery

Holy moly.

Joan Minery

Wow.

Kathy Taccaro

I'm exhausted just listening to all the stuff.

Joan Minery

A lot.

Joan Minery

Holy.

Joan Minery

Yeah, it's.

Joan Minery

It's a lot.

Joan Minery

It's.

Joan Minery

I know sometimes when, when I'm talking about myself and I certainly do love to talk about myself, but when I am reading my bio or someone else is reading it, I just think, wow, I did all that.

Joan Minery

Oh, I forgot I did that.

Joan Minery

Oops.

Joan Minery

Well, I forgot about that.

Joan Minery

Yeah, it's.

Joan Minery

It's been, it's been a whirlwind.

Joan Minery

I love every moment that I'm alive, but.

Joan Minery

And I've lived every moment that I've been alive, so.

Joan Minery

And we're not over yet.

Joan Minery

I'm just getting started.

Kathy Taccaro

There you go.

Kathy Taccaro

So how did all of this begin?

Kathy Taccaro

And what gets you up in the morning?

Joan Minery

Well, way back, way, way back in, in the 90s, I started line dancing.

Joan Minery

And I've always entertained, I've always sang, but I never sang professionally or did anything.

Joan Minery

But I started line dancing and just, I really got hooked and I really got hooked on line dancing.

Joan Minery

And our team at the time wanted to enter a line dancing competition in Fort Wayne, Indiana.

Joan Minery

And it was my idea.

Joan Minery

And I just, at the time, Billy Joel's song All Shook up from Honeymoon in Vegas had just come on the charts.

Joan Minery

And that was the big line dance song at the time.

Joan Minery

So we were going to do the competition to that song.

Joan Minery

But I say, why don't we do a tribute to Elvis?

Joan Minery

Why don't.

Joan Minery

And the next thing, the whole thing mushroomed.

Joan Minery

Next thing we were talking about, let's get Elvis jumpsuits, let's get Elvis wigs, let's get sunglasses.

Joan Minery

And then we, we brought in an Elvis impersonator to teach us how to do Elvis moves and Elvis dance moves.

Joan Minery

And the next thing, myself and our team captain at the time choreographed an Elvis inspired blind dance.

Joan Minery

And hence the Graceliners were born.

Joan Minery

And that was in Fort Wayne, Indiana in March of 1996.

Joan Minery

That's where it all started.

Kathy Taccaro

Wow.

Joan Minery

Yeah.

Joan Minery

When we went out on that stage, five women dressed as Elvis and we never hid the fact that we were women.

Joan Minery

Most of us were quite bodacious.

Joan Minery

And so we never hid that we were just women, female line dancers dressed as, as Elvis.

Joan Minery

But when I went out and I was in the front and I stood across the stage on my knees and I knew we had something, I looked at that all American crowd and I went, if we can put this American crowd who love, you know.

Joan Minery

Well, I know you're American, but Americans love Elvis.

Kathy Taccaro

Yeah, right.

Joan Minery

Yeah.

Joan Minery

If we can put them on their feet, we have got something.

Joan Minery

Now the captain of the team at that time was only with us for that particular show.

Joan Minery

And then she, she moved west and so I took over and I went ballistic with it.

Joan Minery

Morning, noon and night, I ate, lived and dreamed the Graceliners.

Joan Minery

And we were featured in the National Examiner.

Joan Minery

We were contacted by Oprah Winfrey.

Joan Minery

We were on tabloids all over the world and we started traveling and yeah, the next thing we found out, we did not know at the time.

Joan Minery

There is a whole Elvis world out there.

Joan Minery

Oh yeah, there's Elvis basketballs, there's concerts.

Joan Minery

Well, we could know this.

Joan Minery

And we Started getting invited and we started becoming celebrities.

Kathy Taccaro

That's so cool.

Joan Minery

That's.

Joan Minery

That's where it started.

Joan Minery

So that was in.

Joan Minery

And so the dance team itself.

Joan Minery

Then I started singing within the dance team.

Joan Minery

So I started singing as, as an Elvis impersonator or an Elvis tribute artist as they like to be called now.

Joan Minery

And that's basically where it all really began.

Joan Minery

I always sang and I've always danced.

Joan Minery

I have always dreamed of being just an actress and a singer and a dancer and all that, but I had never done it.

Joan Minery

So I found myself.

Joan Minery

I was 29 and on this dance team and we were just, we really, really had something huge and it took off and yeah, that's where it started.

Kathy Taccaro

So I had a question.

Kathy Taccaro

Elvis line dancing.

Kathy Taccaro

Obviously he was known for his wiggles and stuff.

Kathy Taccaro

How exactly do you do an Elvis line dance?

Joan Minery

That's right.

Joan Minery

Yeah.

Joan Minery

Well, it's that he has.

Joan Minery

We started, we really started watching all of Elvis videos.

Joan Minery

Jailhouse Rock obviously because he choreographed that entire routine.

Joan Minery

But yeah, I got a lot of living to do like his early stuff.

Joan Minery

And we really started watching his dance move.

Joan Minery

So we started incorporating that.

Joan Minery

So you know, the most well known there's line dance in the world is Electric Slide and the Tush Push.

Joan Minery

So what we would do is we would take line dance steps and we would like, we do like a great white to the right and then we do an Elvis move and then we do a great fight to the left and then we throw in a couple that need Wiggles and that.

Joan Minery

But it, but we started, we, we started to a country in western song.

Joan Minery

But when we started our show, the Graceliner show, it was all to Elvis music.

Joan Minery

So like we came out with the 2001 Space Odyssey, you know, and the, you know, that's all right mama cc rider.

Joan Minery

And our three and a half minute routine ended up into a 45 minute show.

Joan Minery

And then we were traveling.

Joan Minery

We were like at Denim and Diamonds in New York.

Joan Minery

We were, you know, we were featured on cnn.

Joan Minery

We were, we were in every single newspaper during ELVIS week of 1997.

Joan Minery

Like we were, we just went crazy.

Joan Minery

But yeah, we were, we would dance as Elvis, we looked as Elvis and then I started singing and things just kind of mushroom from there.

Joan Minery

And then lo and behold, I started winning a couple of Elvis competitions.

Kathy Taccaro

So very cool.

Joan Minery

Yeah.

Joan Minery

Male dominated world did not go over very well at first.

Joan Minery

But I, I think once they realized that we weren't trying to be, we were, we were, we were just moms and moms and grandmothers just having some Fun.

Joan Minery

And, you know, I just like, said, okay, well, we'll enter the contest.

Joan Minery

And I started winning or placing, so.

Joan Minery

And that's, that's, that.

Joan Minery

That's where it all started.

Joan Minery

And this is one thing after another.

Joan Minery

And I left the Great Sliders after three years.

Joan Minery

I formed a brand new group.

Joan Minery

I really wanted to sing and the girls wanted to dance, so they didn't.

Joan Minery

The whole singing thing, you know, they, they weren't singers.

Joan Minery

But I, I really found my voice by then, and I'd had a couple of people say, you know, John, you really need to be singing as yourself rather than singing as Elvis, because you have to change your voice.

Joan Minery

And so I started a brand new 50s and 60s group called Memphis Motion.

Joan Minery

And I was with that group for 13 years.

Joan Minery

And that's where the singing part of my career started.

Kathy Taccaro

Wow.

Joan Minery

And.

Joan Minery

And just completely mushroom because then, you know, I, I started my Janice Joplin tribute.

Joan Minery

And I love Bette Midler and, and all the.

Joan Minery

I, I'm a.

Joan Minery

I'm a very big Broadway voice and.

Joan Minery

Yeah.

Joan Minery

And it's just that the more that more that I sang and the more I went out there, the more I.

Joan Minery

I realized I was doing exactly what I was meant to do.

Joan Minery

So the dancing led to the singing, and the singing is where I have been from that moment to this.

Kathy Taccaro

So you've got a wide range.

Kathy Taccaro

Bette Midler, Janis Joplin, Elvis.

Kathy Taccaro

That's quite a juxtaposition.

Joan Minery

That is.

Joan Minery

Oh, gosh, I know.

Joan Minery

I tried it all.

Joan Minery

I don't do it all well, but I'll sing anything people ask me.

Joan Minery

Is there a song that you can't saying is.

Joan Minery

Everyone says, you know, John, you're so talented.

Joan Minery

And I said, yes, I cannot and I have tried, and I will not change the key.

Joan Minery

I cannot sing Think by Aretha Franklin.

Joan Minery

Cannot do it.

Joan Minery

It sounds horrible.

Joan Minery

That is.

Joan Minery

That is the song that has eluded me for my entire life.

Joan Minery

But yeah, and that's.

Joan Minery

And of course it's by Aretha, but I can sing other stuff by Aretha, but not that song.

Joan Minery

That's.

Joan Minery

That's my nemesis.

Kathy Taccaro

Well, you know, I would say that you have tackled a lot of other very complicated styles, you know, so that's pretty amazing.

Kathy Taccaro

And you refer to yourself as the little engine that can.

Kathy Taccaro

I can see why you really have.

Kathy Taccaro

Where did all of this take you 20 years hence from being at an Elvis line dance group.

Kathy Taccaro

What did you start doing after that?

Kathy Taccaro

I mean, I.

Kathy Taccaro

We really want to know, how did you start fronting for your son's band?

Kathy Taccaro

I mean, that.

Kathy Taccaro

That's amazing.

Joan Minery

Yes, that.

Joan Minery

That is.

Joan Minery

It was.

Joan Minery

It was an unexpected thing.

Joan Minery

I'm a motivational speaker and I had.

Joan Minery

I had also written a book.

Joan Minery

I used to be extremely heavy, and I wrote a book about my walking my way back to me and about my weight loss and had overcome a lot of adversity, some, you know, abusive relationships and toxic toxicity in my life.

Joan Minery

And so I wrote this book.

Joan Minery

And so I was putting on this motivational presentation here in my hometown of Brantford, Ontario.

Joan Minery

My son and his band partner at the time, Brad Bridges, and my son's name is Bill Minery.

Joan Minery

They were in a band, in a rock band.

Joan Minery

And I had asked them if they would come on stage with me so we could sing.

Joan Minery

I forget what song it was they were singing.

Joan Minery

I know I sang Can Help.

Joan Minery

Fallen in Love, for sure.

Joan Minery

Anyway, it doesn't really matter.

Joan Minery

I'll think about it as we're going on.

Joan Minery

But I'd asked them if they could play it live because I didn't want to sing it to tracks.

Joan Minery

And so they did.

Joan Minery

And then they also.

Joan Minery

Then I still have a line dance team, so we came on and dance to a Don't Be Cruel as well.

Joan Minery

But anyway, so they.

Joan Minery

We were singing and we had a lot of.

Joan Minery

Lot of success on.

Joan Minery

On that particular stage.

Joan Minery

And as I was coming off the stage, my son said to me, mom, I think we should form a band.

Joan Minery

Was my son at the time would be 25.

Joan Minery

And I said, what is it, Mom?

Joan Minery

I think we got something here.

Joan Minery

He said, that was great out there.

Joan Minery

He said, I, you know, I love performing with you and, you know, we need a, you know.

Joan Minery

You know.

Joan Minery

I said, would you have a band?

Joan Minery

He says, yeah, we have a band.

Joan Minery

He says, but I think we should form a band.

Joan Minery

And I went, you want to form a band with your mom?

Joan Minery

What?

Joan Minery

I was like, what?

Joan Minery

Exactly.

Joan Minery

And.

Joan Minery

And so I said.

Joan Minery

And then.

Joan Minery

And then Brad came off the stage too, and he says.

Joan Minery

And he said, yeah, I'd be down for that.

Joan Minery

I think that's really cool.

Joan Minery

He says, we know we all get along.

Joan Minery

We get this great sound.

Joan Minery

So we are.

Joan Minery

I remember this vividly three days after that particular performance.

Joan Minery

So we were only doing all the songs at the time.

Joan Minery

We went downstairs and the very first song that we did as a band in our basement was Creep by Radiohead.

Joan Minery

And I had never sang Creep before, but I had.

Joan Minery

I had seen it performed on American Idol by one of the contestants.

Joan Minery

And all three of us had this epiphany moment, this.

Joan Minery

And we Were all in tears, all three of us.

Joan Minery

We realized that the lyrics applied to our lives.

Joan Minery

We had all been called creeps.

Joan Minery

We had all been felt.

Joan Minery

We.

Joan Minery

We had all felt like creeps at times and that and people who, you know, wouldn't date us or wouldn't acknowledge us.

Joan Minery

But it was amazing, the sound.

Joan Minery

And that is the song that really catapulted the band because we were doing covers predominantly in the beginning.

Joan Minery

And the next thing we.

Joan Minery

So we worked out a 45 minute show.

Joan Minery

A lot of oldies, a lot of Beatles love, huge Beatles band, a lot of Elvis, a lot of Beatles, a lot of ccr, Janis Joplin.

Joan Minery

And then we would always like the catalyst would always be creep.

Joan Minery

We died.

Joan Minery

It's just the.

Joan Minery

I guess it's just the way because of my Broadway background, I wasn't singing that song as a rock and roll singer.

Joan Minery

I was singing it as if I wrote the song myself that it was.

Joan Minery

And it's.

Joan Minery

I was singing the story and we just felt it and every time we played it and the more we played it, the more people were being really affected in the audience.

Joan Minery

And we had a lot of men like just not visibly like bawling but crying like they were just like, wow.

Joan Minery

Like we, we have.

Joan Minery

And they were sharing with me, you know, how they, you know, walked up to a girl and asked her out on a date or asked her to dance in high school and always get lost crate, you know, and, and you know, looking at them and it had brought back that memory.

Joan Minery

So that's where we just started getting bookings.

Joan Minery

And the more and more that.

Joan Minery

That we were out the.

Joan Minery

The better of known we were becoming.

Joan Minery

My son decided on the name I was not because I, I just like, you know, my whole life has always been about all this.

Joan Minery

But he said, no, Mom.

Joan Minery

He said, it has to be that name.

Joan Minery

It has to be Sybil.

Joan Minery

He said Elvis is responsible for everything, everything musical to do with our family.

Joan Minery

It has to be that name.

Joan Minery

And so I say okay.

Joan Minery

I said, I said, well, you guys are.

Joan Minery

So you want to.

Joan Minery

So you want to be in a band with your mom.

Joan Minery

You want to call it Civil, which is Elvis spelled backwards.

Joan Minery

All right.

Kathy Taccaro

It's great.

Joan Minery

Yeah.

Joan Minery

And that's where we, we formed in I think 2016 and 17.

Joan Minery

We, we've had a huge, wonderful run.

Joan Minery

And then in 2019, my brother Bob joined the band as well and came into the band.

Joan Minery

And my sister Anne, we started writing original music and we, we got.

Joan Minery

We got booked for this massive festival here in Brantford, Ontario at the time it was called what the Fest.

Joan Minery

It's now called Crew Fest, but at the time it's called what the Fest.

Joan Minery

And the criteria was it had to be original music.

Joan Minery

Well, we didn't have any original music.

Joan Minery

So we was like, that's it.

Joan Minery

We're going, we're going to get together.

Joan Minery

And so my son Bill, my brother Bob, my sister Ann and myself.

Joan Minery

So we got the four minories are writing music and then Brad, obviously Brad is with us as well.

Joan Minery

And so we started, we wrote original songs for, for that show.

Joan Minery

We did really well on the show.

Joan Minery

Then we recorded them.

Joan Minery

Brad went on to do.

Joan Minery

He joined another band and then, you know, it's wonderful, wonderful man and an amazing drummer.

Joan Minery

But he left and we brought in Dan Taylor who has been with us now for four years.

Joan Minery

He is our resident drummer and guitarist.

Joan Minery

He plays rhythm guitar, also plays 17 other instruments.

Joan Minery

And, and yeah, so we, we're now, you know, it's Dan and Bill and I.

Joan Minery

My brother Bob sometimes plays with us, although Bob is, he's more folk oriented.

Joan Minery

So like if we're doing a coffee house or like a type of folk type of venue, then he'll come out.

Joan Minery

But it's mainly just Dan and Bill and I and we've just released another album of all original tunes.

Kathy Taccaro

That's a lot more fun than retiring, don't you think?

Joan Minery

Yeah.

Joan Minery

Gosh, yeah.

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Welcome back to Women Road warriors with Shelley Johnson and Kathy Taccaro.

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Joan Minary has an incredible attitude and gives back to people through music.

Kathy Taccaro

Her energy is nonstop and so is her talent.

Kathy Taccaro

She's been a female Elvis impersonator where she's gotten North American acclaim.

Kathy Taccaro

She won Elvis tribute competitions as a woman.

Kathy Taccaro

She was even contacted by Oprah.

Kathy Taccaro

People love her as an actress, singer and dancer.

Kathy Taccaro

She wowed the crowds doing Elvis line dancing with the Grace Liners.

Kathy Taccaro

She eventually went on to form the group Memphis Motion.

Kathy Taccaro

After years of doing that, she wasn't about to stop there.

Kathy Taccaro

At the age of 57, she decided to front for her son's band, which is called Civil or Elvis spelled backwards.

Kathy Taccaro

Along with original music, they play a lot of Elvis, Beatles and CCR and a lot of other oldies.

Kathy Taccaro

This year, they won first place gold for the International Singer Songwriters association for the best band single for Sing It Like Pearl.

Kathy Taccaro

That deserves a huge round of applause.

Kathy Taccaro

If you haven't heard Joan, she's got a big Broadway voice and she wows crowds all over.

Kathy Taccaro

She can even sing like Bette Midler and Janis Joplin.

Kathy Taccaro

If that isn't enough, Joan's also a motivational speaker, teacher, and author.

Kathy Taccaro

Joan is also an ordained chaplain with Channel of Peace Ministries.

Kathy Taccaro

Her aim is to spread peace through music, self awareness, grace, fellowship, goodwill, and community involvement.

Kathy Taccaro

Joan's accomplishments are truly amazing, especially with her son's band.

Kathy Taccaro

Joan, you guys are really, you're a sensation and you're kind of following in the footsteps of like the cow cells, which is what the Partridge Family was based on.

Kathy Taccaro

It's really on usual.

Kathy Taccaro

I would think that you could do really well on some of these competitions like America's Got Talent or something like that.

Kathy Taccaro

I mean, I think people could really dig what you're doing.

Joan Minery

Well, we, we get a lot of wonderful feedback from our audience.

Joan Minery

It's my son is Interracial and looks absolutely nothing like me.

Joan Minery

So I am blonde and blue eyed and big and short.

Joan Minery

And he, if I could compare him to anyone, including body wise, he looks like the Rock, you know, it looks like Dwayne Johnson.

Joan Minery

So a lot of people go, well, who's he?

Joan Minery

And I'll go, that's my son.

Joan Minery

And they'll go, what?

Joan Minery

My son.

Joan Minery

And, and, and he's, you know, he's got these great big huge arms.

Joan Minery

But we, once they find that out and of course when, when my brother Bob's out too, but it's just like, wow, what a wonderful family thing.

Joan Minery

And some people, I remember people when we first started, they were, they weren't making fun of him.

Joan Minery

They were, they were insinuating that I was making him do it.

Joan Minery

And it was like, oh, you gotta play with your mom, right?

Joan Minery

And he'd go, no, I want to be here.

Joan Minery

I love, I love being here.

Joan Minery

I love being with my mom.

Joan Minery

I just, I just love it.

Joan Minery

So like.

Joan Minery

And he's very defensive of that.

Joan Minery

And so, but that was how it was in the beginning.

Joan Minery

Now it's like, wow, this is so cool.

Joan Minery

And we've had so many parents who have come out going, wow, I wish I could do something with my child like this.

Joan Minery

Like, you know, and I, you know, now it's not how I expected things to be.

Joan Minery

And I know he does have other musical endeavors and other musical projects as well.

Joan Minery

And he's a, he's a heavy metal guitarist at heart and.

Kathy Taccaro

Oh wow, that's quite the contrast.

Joan Minery

Yeah, yeah.

Joan Minery

A massive, massive Metallica and Van Halen fan.

Joan Minery

And that's, that's where his roots are.

Joan Minery

But yeah, he does, but he's grown up on Elvis and the Beatles, so he always knew it.

Joan Minery

But he's very, he's very in tune, pun intended, with what I love.

Joan Minery

And so, and because like we are really, we are very, very close.

Joan Minery

We're a lot like Elvis and his mom.

Joan Minery

Very pretty.

Kathy Taccaro

Yeah, yeah.

Joan Minery

And yeah, so he just like, oh no, if you, you want a guitar player, well, I could just say, why would you hire anybody else?

Joan Minery

You hire me.

Joan Minery

I want to be up there with you mom.

Joan Minery

I love it.

Joan Minery

And you know, we have a, we have a very funny camaraderie on stage because, you know, like sometimes like, you know, I'll tell him to do something and I have to remember that he's not my son when we're up there.

Joan Minery

He's my bandmate, but I still kind of talk to him like he's my son, you know, or he'll just offhandedly say, mom, stop that.

Joan Minery

But, yeah, we have a huge following.

Joan Minery

We have a lot of fun when we're on stage.

Joan Minery

He's very quiet.

Joan Minery

Dan is very quiet.

Joan Minery

But sometimes I wonder if they're so quiet because my personality is just so gregarious.

Joan Minery

But, yeah, we just love what we're doing and we're having just monumental success with our band and we've just produced this brand new album and released it.

Joan Minery

The title song was written for my dad, who was a World War II veteran.

Joan Minery

He passed away in 2015, but he used to occasionally go to a pub here in town, a Scottish pub called McGonagall's.

Joan Minery

And as he would leave, he would tap on the table and he'd go, attention, ladies and gentlemen.

Joan Minery

And everybody would stop because my dad was so well known in the bar because he's a veteran.

Joan Minery

And he would go, bless this house and everybody in it.

Joan Minery

And everybody would raise a toast and they would cheer and off he would go.

Joan Minery

Well, when he passed, they put up a plaque in his corner and it says, you know, his name was also Bill.

Joan Minery

It says, William Minery2019 25 to 2015.

Joan Minery

Bless this house and everybody in it.

Joan Minery

We had kind of.

Joan Minery

Not that we had forgotten about the story, but, you know, we had, you know, involved and gone.

Joan Minery

It's been a while since he passed, but while we were at a gig In March of 2023, a fellow who used to frequent McGonagalls came out to us and remind us of the story.

Joan Minery

And I looked at him and I said, you have been sent from heaven.

Joan Minery

This is like man falling from the sky.

Joan Minery

We are literally writing an original album and we've been looking for the song.

Joan Minery

You have just written the song for us.

Joan Minery

So we wrote this song about my dad beating at McGonagall's, tapping his cane and saying, bless this house and everybody in it.

Joan Minery

And it turned.

Joan Minery

It's turned into.

Joan Minery

It was going to be a rock song.

Joan Minery

It's turned into a country groove hit.

Joan Minery

But that is all about my dad.

Joan Minery

And that's the title of the album as well.

Joan Minery

So it just.

Joan Minery

Just things kind of fall into our laps at times.

Joan Minery

And that was.

Joan Minery

Yeah, yeah.

Joan Minery

So that's.

Kathy Taccaro

That's wonderful.

Joan Minery

That's the name of our album and we're having great success with it.

Kathy Taccaro

It sounds like part of what brings all of this together is you've got an organic synergy, but you.

Kathy Taccaro

You have a message about life.

Kathy Taccaro

The things you're doing really resonate with people because it's real.

Joan Minery

Yeah, I.

Joan Minery

I'm.

Joan Minery

I'm unapologetically me.

Joan Minery

And, And I am real.

Joan Minery

I'm short, I'm overweight.

Joan Minery

I.

Joan Minery

But I'm also.

Joan Minery

I'm a mom who just absolutely loves her son and will do absolutely anything for him.

Joan Minery

I spoil him crazy.

Joan Minery

I have a wonderful boyfriend named Keith, and.

Joan Minery

But I teach music and I teach.

Joan Minery

I teach dance, but I'm always just me.

Joan Minery

And I love to have a lot of fun and.

Joan Minery

And I'm incredibly honest about myself and my struggles with my weight and my struggles with past relationships.

Joan Minery

And I think that resonates with a lot of people.

Joan Minery

And I think when I'm on stage, although I covered in glitter and I have really, really, really big blonde Dolly Partonier, but they see a mom, they see a mom, they see someone who's real and, you know, someone who, you know.

Joan Minery

Yeah.

Joan Minery

Sometimes struggles to pay the bills and, and, you know, sometimes doesn't always drive the way she should.

Joan Minery

Yeah.

Joan Minery

And.

Joan Minery

Yeah, just.

Joan Minery

Just out there just trying to.

Joan Minery

I'm.

Joan Minery

I'm living my dream.

Joan Minery

I.

Joan Minery

For my entire life, I wanted to be an actress, I wanted to be a singer, I wanted to be a dancer.

Joan Minery

Life got in the way.

Joan Minery

Marriage and some hardships in the family.

Joan Minery

And it just seemed when I was in my 40s and I finally decided to take care of my health, life really changed for me.

Joan Minery

I lived a very.

Joan Minery

I was always said way before 44, I was the loudest person in the room and I was the Comic Con stage, but I was the loneliest person in the entire.

Joan Minery

In the tiger, the entire room, in the entire venue.

Joan Minery

And then once I grabbed hold of my health and really started taking care of myself and, you know, kind of like I walked away from my life as it was in 2010, and the next thing, I'm teaching Zumba and in walks this fellow.

Joan Minery

And I have never been happy in a romance.

Joan Minery

I've never.

Joan Minery

I've never met anyone who's of any substance.

Joan Minery

But when I started teaching Zumba in 2011 and then 2012, on January 4, 2012, this man walked in and changed my life.

Joan Minery

And that's Keith.

Joan Minery

And then the romance started.

Joan Minery

And he was at the back of the class, then he was in the middle of the class.

Joan Minery

He came to the front row.

Joan Minery

Yeah.

Joan Minery

And then the next thing, we were on the dance floor together.

Joan Minery

And he's been my.

Joan Minery

He.

Joan Minery

I waited for him.

Joan Minery

I met him when I was 44.

Joan Minery

We got together when I was 46, and I waited for him for 46 years and I would wait another 46 if I knew I was going to meet him.

Kathy Taccaro

That's wonderful.

Joan Minery

Yeah.

Kathy Taccaro

That's the kind of stuff movies are about.

Joan Minery

Yeah.

Joan Minery

And it's funny, when he started talking to me, I kept saying to him, you know, I know your voice.

Joan Minery

I don't know what it is.

Joan Minery

And I kept thinking, does it remind me of an actor or a newscaster?

Joan Minery

And so I would always get him to talk to me.

Joan Minery

And I couldn't figure it out.

Joan Minery

I've heard your voice before.

Joan Minery

I know your voice.

Joan Minery

That day that he told me the three words he said, I love you, my soul just ignited.

Joan Minery

I went, that's the voice.

Joan Minery

I have heard this voice in my dreams.

Kathy Taccaro

Wow.

Joan Minery

I knew I knew that voice, but I couldn't put it together until I heard him say, I love you.

Joan Minery

I know what you are.

Joan Minery

Absolutely my destiny.

Joan Minery

Absolutely.

Joan Minery

You know, some say the line dancing led to the music, and the music led to Zumba and then weight loss and everything.

Joan Minery

And I really, honestly believe that my entire path and all the hardships was all meant to come together for, for me to meet him.

Joan Minery

Because then I appreciated what I, what I had and I was healthy and I was ready to permit myself to be happy finally.

Joan Minery

And what a gift I got.

Joan Minery

So I have the most amazing man.

Joan Minery

I'm in a fantastic band.

Joan Minery

I have a wonderful, supportive family, and I am teaching music, I'm teaching dance, I'm teaching fitness, and, and doing exactly what it is that I've always wanted to do.

Joan Minery

And, and yeah, I'm a late bloomer, but yeah, I was like 60.

Joan Minery

Yeah.

Kathy Taccaro

Who cares?

Joan Minery

Bring it on.

Kathy Taccaro

Yeah, bring.

Joan Minery

I gotta, I gotta tell you, I'm pretty envious of the, your, your son wanting to be on stage with you.

Joan Minery

Because my daughter, ever since she's been little, has been moment, don't sing.

Joan Minery

It's been the absolute opposite, opposite.

Joan Minery

And still to this day, she's, if I start to sing in the car, she'll give me the big eye roll and like, really, Mom?

Joan Minery

Really?

Joan Minery

Come on, man.

Joan Minery

There's people here.

Joan Minery

That's funny.

Joan Minery

I, I, I'm sure there's a couple of, there's a couple of moments that he has, he has wished that I, I, I don't do what I do.

Joan Minery

But he, he's my son Bill, that group now his nickname is BJ for Billy Joe from when he was little.

Joan Minery

And I still call him B.J.

Joan Minery

even though he, you know, he wants me to call him Belt.

Joan Minery

But he has always been my biggest fan.

Joan Minery

He, he always loved listen to his mom Saying, and.

Joan Minery

And I think because he was so young when I was with the Graceliners, because he was only like, he was five.

Joan Minery

And in fact, he was.

Joan Minery

He was interviewed by a reporter from the Toronto Star, and it was.

Joan Minery

This is kind of what catapulted us to some.

Joan Minery

Some fame because I went across a ticker tape and he said, what does your mommy do?

Joan Minery

And his exact response was, my mommy does Elvis.

Joan Minery

I love it.

Kathy Taccaro

That's great.

Joan Minery

Well, so that was picked up on the ticker tape.

Joan Minery

And the next thing, like, we.

Joan Minery

We had so many reporters contacting us, it's like, you know, boy.

Joan Minery

And I was like, well, he's.

Joan Minery

He's only five, so I don't.

Joan Minery

The double entendre of that he did not understand.

Joan Minery

He just sent mommy to us.

Joan Minery

Elvis.

Joan Minery

But that has been our life, so.

Joan Minery

And I have three floors of Elvis memorabilia in my house.

Joan Minery

And it's just.

Joan Minery

I have always been a huge fan.

Joan Minery

I believe that music is.

Joan Minery

They say love is the international language.

Joan Minery

I believe that it's music.

Joan Minery

And I firmly, firmly content that Elvis is the epitome of that.

Kathy Taccaro

You know, Elvis was such an influence to all of the major rock groups and even people today that are musicians.

Kathy Taccaro

I mean, he made a huge impact, not only in the music industry, but with people.

Kathy Taccaro

And he really was very.

Kathy Taccaro

He included everyone, too.

Kathy Taccaro

Everyone, you know, in.

Kathy Taccaro

In spite of the fact there was pushback in the music industry, he's like, no, I want these people in my show.

Kathy Taccaro

And he was steadfast about it.

Kathy Taccaro

So, I mean, he made such a wonderful impact on humanity, a wonderful change in inclusion in all of that.

Kathy Taccaro

And, yes, he got some pushback certainly in the very beginning, you know, what is that wiggling?

Kathy Taccaro

What was it on the Ed Sullivan show?

Kathy Taccaro

They had to always shoot him from the waist up because.

Joan Minery

The waist up?

Joan Minery

Yeah.

Joan Minery

How dare you.

Joan Minery

How dare you move your hips in the.

Joan Minery

The girls were having these reactions that they didn't understand what was going on with their bodies.

Joan Minery

Oh, right.

Joan Minery

They knew something was tingling, right?

Kathy Taccaro

Yeah.

Joan Minery

Oh, mom, what is that feeling?

Joan Minery

Then the girls are turning around and seeing their moms out with the same belly, too.

Joan Minery

It's like, oh, we got a problem.

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Kathy Taccaro

Joan Minary doesn't believe in stopping just because the calendar says she's a certain age.

Kathy Taccaro

What is age these days anyway?

Kathy Taccaro

People are way too concerned with what year they were born and they make that an excuse not to do something.

Kathy Taccaro

Years ago, Joan made herself a household name by being an Elvis impersonator.

Kathy Taccaro

As a woman, she got North American acclaim and was featured by major media.

Kathy Taccaro

She also got huge attention for her versatile vocal styles, acting and line dancing with the group the Graceliners.

Kathy Taccaro

She's extremely busy these days as a motivational speaker, teacher, chaplain, and author.

Kathy Taccaro

She also fronts for her son's band, which is called Civil, which is Elvis spelled backwards.

Kathy Taccaro

Joan started that endeavor at the age of 57.

Kathy Taccaro

Her accomplishments are amazing, and she says never say no to anything.

Kathy Taccaro

We're glad she isn't.

Kathy Taccaro

She's a great inspiration.

Kathy Taccaro

I still think it's amazing that a lot of what Joan does now began as a female Elvis impersonator.

Kathy Taccaro

Joan, it was wonderful that you could take Elvis to the forefront and influence your son and get his interest in music.

Joan Minery

Yeah.

Kathy Taccaro

And what you're doing now, I think you're motivating a lot of people and you're a motivational speaker, too.

Kathy Taccaro

I'm kind of curious, what kind of motivational speaking do you do?

Joan Minery

Initially, I was doing speaking about weight loss because I, back in 2010, I was a very big girl and I lost £150, some of which I have.

Kathy Taccaro

Congratulations.

Joan Minery

Thank you.

Joan Minery

Thank you.

Joan Minery

It was a lot of hard work.

Joan Minery

But anyway, so I started speaking for Tops.

Joan Minery

Taking off pound sensibly.

Joan Minery

That was where my first started.

Joan Minery

Then I started branching out to a lot of other weight loss groups.

Joan Minery

But then my, I just, my, my topics kind of started, you know, talking about empowering women and, you know, music and movement and, you know, just a couple other things, you know, like the hospitality of community music, the focus on seniors.

Joan Minery

I do a talk on that about the art of movement.

Joan Minery

And I really, really started getting into this whole I am conceptual, this like the I am concept of self love and self empowerment and to live in the I am not.

Joan Minery

I will.

Joan Minery

And so I do do a couple of.

Joan Minery

I have various things.

Joan Minery

Depends on who contacts me.

Joan Minery

I always bring it back to my story of, you know, I was in, you know, a horrible relationship and a couple of issues of abuse and domestic discord, but about, you know, how I overcame some adversity.

Joan Minery

And it's not so much about weight loss now.

Joan Minery

It's just that I talked about the fact that.

Joan Minery

About self care, of how my health led to my mental health and which was like.

Joan Minery

And it needed repairing.

Joan Minery

And that's where we are in a lot of my shows.

Joan Minery

I think I do, you know, you know, put down the fork and get moving and, you know, talk about women in Spotlight.

Joan Minery

And right now I'm doing a lot of, you know, the.

Joan Minery

How women are treated in the music industry because we are.

Joan Minery

We still and are not treated equal.

Joan Minery

We still have it.

Joan Minery

You can see what's happening right now with Taylor Swift.

Joan Minery

You know, she is the most successful entertainer in the world right now.

Joan Minery

And we are so obsessed with the fact that, you know, she's at a.

Joan Minery

At a football game and being.

Joan Minery

And being made fun of because she happens to have a love story.

Joan Minery

If that, if it had been the other way, no one would be worried about it.

Joan Minery

But it's just like, oh, well, her, you know, her music sucks and she's this and she's that and it's just, oh, gosh, yeah, Kim.

Joan Minery

And Kim, just please stop.

Joan Minery

But you know, in the, you know, Dolly, you know, what she's going through and you know, they talk about someone who is giving back to the world, not just the community, the world.

Joan Minery

And you know, where we, instead of applauding her for all of her efforts, we, you know, make fun of her because she's in her 70s and put on a Dallas cheerleaders outfit.

Joan Minery

You know, hello.

Joan Minery

She looks amazing.

Kathy Taccaro

She rocked that outfit.

Kathy Taccaro

I'm sorry.

Kathy Taccaro

She looked amazing.

Kathy Taccaro

Yeah, it's like, hello.

Joan Minery

But we, yeah, so it's.

Joan Minery

It's okay for our very notable actors.

Joan Minery

We all know who they are, who've just had.

Joan Minery

Who are in their late 70s and 80s, have just had babies where, you know, we're, you know, we're going on and on about how wonderful it is that and it is, it's, you know, wonderful that Stones have, you know, the number one album in the world and, and we're, we're telling Cher and Madonna that they shouldn't be on, they shouldn't be on stage.

Joan Minery

They need to go home.

Joan Minery

Go home and be grandmothers.

Kathy Taccaro

Yeah.

Kathy Taccaro

Isn't that garbage?

Kathy Taccaro

It's just ridiculous.

Joan Minery

You know, it's nonsense.

Kathy Taccaro

The Rolling Stones are being sponsored by aarp.

Kathy Taccaro

Nobody's got a problem with that.

Kathy Taccaro

And you know, but you're right, the judgmental, the judginess with women still goes on.

Kathy Taccaro

It's like, why?

Joan Minery

Yeah.

Joan Minery

And I experience it.

Joan Minery

I know it.

Joan Minery

As a festival director.

Joan Minery

I ran couple of festivals here in town when you were at the helm.

Joan Minery

You get the.

Joan Minery

Well, you're, you know, you're a bitch.

Joan Minery

You know, you're, you're, you're, you're, you're, you're not a, you're or you're, you're sergeant major, whereas.

Joan Minery

And you, you're, you're short and you're fat or you're old and you're, you're this and you're that.

Joan Minery

You know, they don't do that to men.

Kathy Taccaro

No, they don't.

Kathy Taccaro

No.

Kathy Taccaro

Oh, they're there, they're distinguished, aren't they?

Joan Minery

You know, they're the captain, they're the.

Joan Minery

But, but a woman in authority, automatically, she gets this.

Joan Minery

You know, she's, she's a witch.

Joan Minery

Okay, She's a witch with a bee.

Joan Minery

And, yeah, and, and, and I'm not, I'm just so far removed from the, from being that, that type of person.

Joan Minery

Very fair and very fun loving.

Joan Minery

But when you're in charge of something, people automatically, they just, oh, she must be, you know, oh, she's hard to deal with or she's, you know, she's difficult.

Joan Minery

And, but, and in the music industry, you know, you've got ageism and, you know, I know understandably, if I'm going up against someone and just, you know, like Billie Eilish or Taylor Swift, they're going to choose them because of their youthfulness.

Joan Minery

But I, I find it sometimes when we're trying to get gigs, when I go in, I see it because I, I'm looking at bar owners or brewery orders who are usually, you know, men in their mid-30s.

Joan Minery

And they're looking at me thinking, oh, I don't know if I want you singing here.

Joan Minery

So I got, but if I send in the guys, you know, and they say, let's say, oh, okay, yeah, we'll hire you.

Kathy Taccaro

Yeah.

Joan Minery

And then, and then so then they watch the band and they go, oh, wow, you guys are really good.

Joan Minery

It's like, well, so you didn't think I was good by myself?

Joan Minery

You.

Joan Minery

So when I logged in here as this, you know, 57 year old woman, you automatically assumed that I was no good?

Kathy Taccaro

Yeah.

Kathy Taccaro

Isn't that amazing?

Kathy Taccaro

The stereotypes, the judge, the judgment calls, you know, judging a book by its cover, it seems to happen more with women.

Kathy Taccaro

And, you know, the word assume.

Kathy Taccaro

I was taught that the word assume means you make an ass out of you and me.

Kathy Taccaro

Never make assumptions, you know.

Joan Minery

Yep.

Kathy Taccaro

And it seems to go on unfortunately with women, and I'm hoping it changes.

Kathy Taccaro

And certainly, Joan, with what you're doing, this is really giving the message that yes, you can and heck with all the naysayers.

Joan Minery

Yeah, to heck with it.

Joan Minery

I, you know, we, we got really slammed with, as did a lot of musicians and a lot of musical people because of COVID And like, we lost a lot of work.

Joan Minery

And I was out of work for two years at the centers where I teach dance.

Joan Minery

I closed down, which is what brought me to going back to school.

Joan Minery

I was like, I'm never going to be out of work again.

Joan Minery

I'm going back to school.

Joan Minery

I'm getting my master's.

Joan Minery

And again, I was the oldest person in the room and locked in there with all guns of blaring and went, you know, I'm here and you know, and graduated with my youthful class and had people just like literally standing in the aisles cheering me as I was going across the stage at Wilson.

Kathy Taccaro

That's so great.

Joan Minery

Yeah.

Joan Minery

And I just like, no, I, I'm, I'm doing this.

Joan Minery

I, I, my motto for the last five years has been say no to nothing.

Joan Minery

Whatever.

Kathy Taccaro

I love it.

Kathy Taccaro

I love it.

Joan Minery

I will.

Joan Minery

Whatever comes up, I'm, I'm gonna do.

Joan Minery

And when this thing about going back to school came up, I went, yep, I'm gonna do that.

Joan Minery

And I was like, yeah, I will.

Joan Minery

You know, and if, you know, I gotta fly somewhere or if I gotta go travel somewhere, or, you know, if we're playing a bowling alley, we'll say yes.

Joan Minery

We're playing on a, you know, 3,000 seater, we'll say yes.

Joan Minery

I say no to nothing.

Kathy Taccaro

I think that's a terrific mindset and something that everybody can take away and say, you know, she's got it, she's got it.

Kathy Taccaro

Joan, what would you be your advice to women if they really want to do something?

Kathy Taccaro

But they've always kind of said, well, I can't.

Kathy Taccaro

Or people have said, I can't.

Kathy Taccaro

It's too late.

Kathy Taccaro

What's your advice?

Joan Minery

Oh, gosh, I.

Joan Minery

What's my advice for someone who says they can't see?

Joan Minery

I don't have that mindset.

Joan Minery

I would tell them to quietly close the door in the bathroom and look in the mirror and look and talk to themselves.

Joan Minery

Nobody else.

Joan Minery

Just, you know, me, myself, and I.

Joan Minery

And tell yourself in the mirror why you can't do it, because a lot of people can't do that.

Joan Minery

You can't tell your.

Joan Minery

You can say it, but when you're actually looking at yourself and it's like, now tell yourself why.

Joan Minery

But look into your eyes in that mirror.

Joan Minery

Look into your eyes.

Joan Minery

And to say if, just for example, if you've always wanted to.

Joan Minery

You always wanted to go back to school, you can put a thousand obstacles in front of you.

Joan Minery

But when you are looking at yourself in your eyes, in the mirror, tell yourself why you want to go back to school.

Joan Minery

And then those whys need to be yeses.

Joan Minery

And it's like, no, no.

Joan Minery

So you walked in here, you walked into the room saying, I can't do it.

Joan Minery

But I want you to walk out of the room saying, you can do it, but you gotta look at yourself in.

Joan Minery

In that mirror and just keep saying it over and over and over again.

Joan Minery

Yes, I can.

Joan Minery

Yes, I can.

Joan Minery

Yes, I can.

Joan Minery

Yes, I can.

Joan Minery

And you need to live in the complete.

Joan Minery

I am not.

Joan Minery

I will not.

Joan Minery

I was not.

Joan Minery

I should have.

Joan Minery

It's the I am.

Joan Minery

And say, I am going back to school.

Joan Minery

I am taking a dance class.

Joan Minery

I am going to get a new job.

Joan Minery

I am going to get my driver's license.

Joan Minery

I am.

Joan Minery

And even If I am 150 pounds, I am a size 10.

Joan Minery

I don't care if you weigh 350 pounds.

Joan Minery

You keep saying the I am the I.

Joan Minery

Because everything you are responsible for the energy you bring into your own space.

Joan Minery

And that's what you need to do in that bathroom.

Joan Minery

You need to revitalize that energy, bring it back into your own space and this.

Joan Minery

Live in the complete.

Joan Minery

I am.

Joan Minery

I am.

Kathy Taccaro

I love you.

Joan Minery

Yeah, yeah.

Kathy Taccaro

Totally positive affirmations like that.

Kathy Taccaro

They're so powerful.

Kathy Taccaro

Joan, I would love to continue picking your brain here because you've got some wonderful philosophies on life, but we have to kind of wrap it up.

Joan Minery

Totally understand that.

Kathy Taccaro

Where do people reach you?

Kathy Taccaro

Where can they follow the band?

Kathy Taccaro

Where can they buy the music?

Kathy Taccaro

You got all kinds of things out there that people can check out.

Joan Minery

Yeah, well, to find me, myself and I just go to my website, which is joan minery.com so j o A N M I N n e r y.com so there you're going to find out about me, my motivational shows, my dance fitness stuff, my books and stuff like that.

Joan Minery

If you want to buy our music or.

Joan Minery

And support the band Spotify.

Joan Minery

And you're looking for civil S I V L E and you're looking for civil from.

Joan Minery

From Canada.

Joan Minery

And.

Joan Minery

Or you'll also find all of our.

Joan Minery

The links for civil are also on my website.

Joan Minery

Facebook.

Joan Minery

I'm under Joan Minery.

Joan Minery

It's just Facebook.com Joan Minery and I have a public page.

Joan Minery

You're more than welcome to find any information about that.

Joan Minery

Same thing.

Joan Minery

Twitter, slash Joan Minery.

Joan Minery

Instagram slash Joan Minery.

Joan Minery

So it's a.

Joan Minery

I got very easy to find, but really the best place.

Joan Minery

Just go to my website.

Joan Minery

You'll find out all the information there.

Joan Minery

And if you don't find, you'll find links to a lot of our music and all of our activities and stuff that we're doing.

Kathy Taccaro

This is wonderful.

Kathy Taccaro

I really have enjoyed talking to you, Jo.

Joan Minery

Thank you.

Joan Minery

Thank you so much.

Joan Minery

I've done a lot of talking.

Kathy Taccaro

No, that's good.

Kathy Taccaro

Oh, absolutely.

Joan Minery

Great.

Kathy Taccaro

You got me energized.

Kathy Taccaro

I need to get into some sort of a line dance and I'm not sure what kind of swivel I'm going to be doing, but I think this is great.

Joan Minery

Yeah.

Joan Minery

Well, I'm really, I'm really happy to see line dancing has made a huge comeback.

Joan Minery

Zumba took over and line dancing has really made a big comeback in the last couple years, but we're excited to be back again.

Joan Minery

So.

Joan Minery

Yeah, I just, I just keep doing it.

Joan Minery

I'm again, say no to nothing and, and I'm here.

Joan Minery

I'm again, I'm.

Joan Minery

I'm two years off at 60 and there.

Joan Minery

There ain't no stopping me.

Joan Minery

Love it here.

Kathy Taccaro

Yeah, I love it.

Kathy Taccaro

Thank you, Joan.

Joan Minery

Thank you.

Joan Minery

Thank you.

Joan Minery

Yeah, thank you.

Joan Minery

Thank you very much.

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