Welcome back to Become a Calm Mama. I'm your host. I'm Darlynn
Speaker:Childress. And today, I'm gonna talk about
Speaker:encouraging boredom. So what I hope is that
Speaker:by the end of this episode, you feel
Speaker:more at peace when you see your kids being
Speaker:bored and dysregulated and frustrated,
Speaker:especially in the summer. The summer is a
Speaker:time where there ought to be less structure
Speaker:and more unsuper less loosely supervised free
Speaker:play. That's the idea. Right? Long summer days
Speaker:where kids have leisure time, creative time in
Speaker:order to play. And what
Speaker:happens though a a parent during the summer is we
Speaker:don't like the way our kids act when they
Speaker:are bored. Because what happens when a kid is bored is
Speaker:they are what we call dysregulated, which means they're out of balance,
Speaker:and they don't know what to do with that discomfort.
Speaker:So I think of boredom really as
Speaker:this period of time between activity.
Speaker:And the better your kid is at managing the
Speaker:discomfort that happens between one thing
Speaker:and the next from getting up and getting dressed and getting their socks and
Speaker:shoes on to going to calm, and they have an extra hour in the
Speaker:morning, well, isn't that amazing? But if your kids aren't used
Speaker:to having an extra hour in the morning
Speaker:or unstructured time in the afternoon,
Speaker:they aren't gonna know what to do with that time, and they're gonna start acting
Speaker:out. They're gonna start bugging their sibling, complaining,
Speaker:being grumpy, having a big feeling cycle,
Speaker:being naughty. You find them doing something naughty. You know, like, they're all of a
Speaker:sudden, you know, coloring on the walls or jumping on the bed or doing stuff
Speaker:where you're like, what are you doing? You know you're not supposed to be doing
Speaker:that. So the problem is
Speaker:that your kids are used to having
Speaker:most of their day filled with
Speaker:structure and with adult directed activities. So in
Speaker:the last week's episode, I talked about how important it is for our kids to
Speaker:have time to be in
Speaker:free play a be in unstructured play
Speaker:a have time outdoors and have the pacing of life
Speaker:kinda change, and all of that. And this
Speaker:is this ideal, right, this value that we have that we wanna create more
Speaker:free time and more open, unstructured
Speaker:time. But the obstacle to doing that
Speaker:is your kid's dysregulation in the gap
Speaker:between the thing they were doing and the next thing.
Speaker:So I want you to think about this boredom that
Speaker:you're experiencing with your kids as what I wanna call a boredom
Speaker:gap. I want you to be able to think about,
Speaker:okay. My child is in a period of time where they
Speaker:don't know what to do with themselves. Now you, as a parent,
Speaker:you're super smart. You're super bright. I know a. And you probably go,
Speaker:oh, you're bored? Let me give you some ideas.
Speaker:Right? And that sounds like such a wonderful
Speaker:mom thing to do. I was just reading an article in the New York Times,
Speaker:which was it's a really great article, and it's all about, you
Speaker:know, handling boredom and that kind of thing. And
Speaker:what they said in there is you wanna have these, like, boredom busters.
Speaker:Right? Have a list of things that your kids can do that that, you
Speaker:know, are the boredom busters. And I love that. I have a list in the
Speaker:summer toolkit, which you can get on my website, a.
Speaker:Under free resources, there's a summer one. You get a whole
Speaker:summer toolkit in there, 80 plus ideas of things to do when you're bored.
Speaker:Now what happens though is I've seen this is that
Speaker:parents will offer a boredom
Speaker:buster or some sort of activity
Speaker:too early Become the brain has
Speaker:gone through its whole feeling cycle and
Speaker:gets to problem solving. So the brain
Speaker:doesn't like to be dysregulated. It doesn't like to be a,
Speaker:and it, you know, is going to solve its
Speaker:a, but it has to feel uncomfortable
Speaker:before it craves something to make it
Speaker:more likely to do that next thing. Let me explain what I mean.
Speaker:Say you're hungry. Okay? And your body, of course, wants
Speaker:to satisfy its hunger needs. And you're really
Speaker:hungry, and someone says to you, do you want a
Speaker:bowl of broccoli? Now some of you are
Speaker:listening. I know you're, like, super healthy, and you're like, oh, I would be like,
Speaker:yeah. Yum. But most people and some most
Speaker:kids would be like, ew. Now if
Speaker:I am sitting there a I'm really hungry, and I have a plate
Speaker:of brownies and I have a plate of broccoli, I am
Speaker:probably going to pick the brownies. Right? I'm gonna pick the easy
Speaker:thing my brain is craving, that fast carb, that
Speaker:instant sugar, that big dopamine surge,
Speaker:and it's not thinking about what I can do to take care
Speaker:of myself long term. I just wanna relieve the
Speaker:discomfort, and that is true of
Speaker:boredom. So you think you're
Speaker:offering so many wonderful ideas, and you are.
Speaker:But your kid is thinking about what you're offering
Speaker:as broccoli. You're like, why don't we play cards? Why don't we build
Speaker:a tower? Why don't we go outside? Why don't you go look for
Speaker:bugs? Why don't you, you know, get out the twister
Speaker:game? Why don't you play tic tac toe with your brother? Why don't
Speaker:you you have so many good ideas. You're amazing.
Speaker:But your child, all there is like, eat broccoli, eat
Speaker:broccoli, eat broccoli, eat broccoli. And they're like,
Speaker:no. I don't wanna eat broccoli. So you have to wait until
Speaker:your child starts to crave the next
Speaker:thing, and it's a strong enough craving. Like,
Speaker:they wanna satisfy their need, and they're
Speaker:willing to work at it, which is what eating broccoli is like
Speaker:working at it. Creativity is working at it. What do you think
Speaker:your children normally want when they
Speaker:are acting dysregulated because they
Speaker:are in a boredom gap. They
Speaker:want screens. Right? They want you to turn on a
Speaker:show or hand them the iPad or give them your
Speaker:phone, and they might have really good, like, strategies. They're
Speaker:like, let me look something up on Amazon, or I
Speaker:wanna play my favorite song, or I wanna see what time it time it
Speaker:is in New York City, or I wanna see the weather in New Delhi. Right?
Speaker:They're may be coming up with a really cool, that's
Speaker:educational here. I'll hand you my phone or, yeah, okay. I'll hand you the iPad.
Speaker:But, really, that's a quick fix. That's a
Speaker:brownie. That's a very fast little, you
Speaker:know, pop in to just relieve that discomfort, but it's short
Speaker:term. It's not gonna leave them satisfied. And then they're gonna be on their phone.
Speaker:You're gonna have to get it back or stop them a then
Speaker:transition again and go through boredom gap again.
Speaker:So the more time that you give your kids
Speaker:devices and the more time they spend
Speaker:on devices, the more their brain will crave
Speaker:that fast and easy stimulation.
Speaker:It's not gonna crave the long term work
Speaker:of free play. So what are you
Speaker:supposed to do? Right?
Speaker:When your kid is in a boredom gap, I
Speaker:want you to wait to be
Speaker:comfortable with your child's discomfort. Now if their kid is
Speaker:being, like, bugging their sibling
Speaker:or bugging you know, being disruptive or or, you know,
Speaker:creating kind of a problem for everybody, you can set a
Speaker:limit around that. You can say, oh, you're welcome to, you know,
Speaker:talk to me, and I'll help you with your big feelings as long as you're
Speaker:not hitting your brother. Right? So you can
Speaker:set some boundaries and use some limits. There's tons of episodes on this
Speaker:podcast about limit settings, so go back and read some of those.
Speaker:But how to handle the boredom gap
Speaker:in general is we want to
Speaker:wait and be acknowledging what is happening.
Speaker:So that's really what compassion is all about. It's being able
Speaker:to look at your child and think, oh, they don't know what to do with
Speaker:themselves. They're bored. They're dysregulated because they
Speaker:haven't sought they haven't figured out something to do with their brain yet.
Speaker:And I'm not gonna suggest anything yet. I'm just gonna wait, but I'm gonna be
Speaker:compassionate in that waiting. You guys know I love
Speaker:doctor Dan Siegel, and he coined the phrase name it to tame
Speaker:it. And, really, it is about naming what is
Speaker:happening. Sometimes we name that a to our kids.
Speaker:Sometimes we just name it for ourselves so that we can get compassionate.
Speaker:So when your kid is just, you know, bugging their brother or
Speaker:complaining or bugging their sister or throwing throwing, like,
Speaker:randomly, like, just picking up a pen and throwing it over and over again or
Speaker:whatever. It's like, you can say, oh, I I
Speaker:think I know what's happening right now. Is this a a gap? It
Speaker:feels like you're in a board a gap.
Speaker:So you can say that out loud, but most kids will get really mad. So
Speaker:I really want you to be just sort of thinking it. Like, oh,
Speaker:they're in a boredom gap. Oh my gosh. Okay. I can
Speaker:handle this. They're gonna find something. They're gonna find a solution. Let
Speaker:me redirect. Let me connect. Let me see how I can
Speaker:help them. So when your kids are saying,
Speaker:I'm bored or they're acting dysregulated, you can connect with
Speaker:them and give them some eye contact a maybe name sort
Speaker:of, are you having a rough time? Is it frustrating right now?
Speaker:You don't know what to do with your big body. You're bugging your sister. You're
Speaker:throwing things. You're, you know, having some trouble.
Speaker:I get it. That's normal. This is called boredom.
Speaker:It's okay. You're gonna get through it. So we
Speaker:want to be calm in that
Speaker:dysregulation, be the leader, and really kind of own what is
Speaker:happening and recognize, okay. They're in a
Speaker:dysregulated state. They're in a a a of gap. They're in a place where
Speaker:they don't know what to do, but don't go into solution yet.
Speaker:We need to soothe before we solve.
Speaker:We need to name before we go to now what.
Speaker:So really being a, being like instead of going, stop it. Stop it.
Speaker:Stop it. You're being so annoying or and trying to shut down that
Speaker:behavior or complaining or arguing with
Speaker:them or punishing them. We want
Speaker:them to see, like, okay. You're in a period of struggle, and I
Speaker:can help you with that. So once
Speaker:they release some of that stress juice, you can offer now what strategy
Speaker:do you need to move some big you know, move your body? Do you you
Speaker:know, why don't you come with me? Let me help you. Like or why don't
Speaker:you help me? They love to be little helpers or,
Speaker:you know, just connecting back with them
Speaker:and giving them some attention. Sometimes lonely
Speaker:sometimes boredom is a bit to connect. It's a
Speaker:feeling of loneliness. It's a feeling of,
Speaker:frustration. It's a feeling of annoyance. And so your kids, they
Speaker:need a little bit of support, and they need you to give them some words
Speaker:to describe that discomfort. So that's what
Speaker:connection really is. It's helping your child connect
Speaker:what they're feeling to how they're acting, giving them words
Speaker:to talk about what they're feeling. I always think of it as connecting them to
Speaker:them. Not connecting you to them, but connecting themselves to themselves.
Speaker:So you're naming it, and you're being
Speaker:compassionate. And then you kinda wait, and then you can
Speaker:say, hey. It's normal to feel bored. That makes
Speaker:sense. I'm sure you'll figure out a solution. So let me know what
Speaker:your ideas are. Or you can say to your
Speaker:kids, hey. It looks like you're looking for something to do. Let me know
Speaker:if you want any suggestions. So what you're doing
Speaker:there is you're inviting your child into some thinking.
Speaker:When they're bored, they're in their limbic Become. They're in their emotional center, and they
Speaker:just don't feel good, and they don't quite know how to solve for that.
Speaker:And so we're gonna access some thinking, getting them
Speaker:towards that prefrontal cortex, giving them some
Speaker:access to doing some problem solving by inviting them in.
Speaker:So don't go right into the solutions. Just say,
Speaker:let me know what you've come up with. Let me know what you have what
Speaker:what you think you calm do to solve your problem, or let me know if
Speaker:you want any ideas. So you're the guide
Speaker:in that moment. You're comfortable.
Speaker:You're allowing your kid's brain to find its own solution. You're trusting
Speaker:that your kid is going to figure it out.
Speaker:Now how long is a boredom gap? How long should you wait?
Speaker:What what what to expect? It really depends on how
Speaker:often your child has experienced
Speaker:boredom. The more your kids are bored, the
Speaker:more things, unstructured time, or
Speaker:unstructured activities that they experience, the better
Speaker:they get at overcoming and moving quickly through the
Speaker:boredom gap. When their brain is trained
Speaker:in that like, last week, I talked about discover mode versus defend
Speaker:mode. Discover mode is about going, what can
Speaker:I do to make this more interesting for me?
Speaker:That's the kind of problem solver we want. That's the kind of thinker we
Speaker:want. That's the kind of kid we wanna be raising. Right? A that's
Speaker:like, I can solve my problems. I don't
Speaker:have to feel a and bored. I don't have to wait for
Speaker:my parent to solve it for me. I don't have to wait for my parent
Speaker:to become a clown and entertain me. Like, I can entertain
Speaker:myself. That's so much more powerful and so much there's so much more
Speaker:self agency in that process if your child
Speaker:is comfortable with their own discomfort and can trust that they can figure out
Speaker:a solution. So
Speaker:it's like every time that you have not every
Speaker:time. I don't wanna be super extreme and hyperbolic. But, like, the more that
Speaker:your kids are on screens in gaps,
Speaker:the more they rely on technology to fulfill their
Speaker:creative and, need for free play.
Speaker:The more that you take the screen off of the table as an
Speaker:option, the better your kids get at finding in real
Speaker:world embodied big body movement at
Speaker:creative activities, things like that to solve for their own
Speaker:discomfort. The brain hates
Speaker:to be bored, and it hates to,
Speaker:find solutions. It wants the easiest and fastest
Speaker:way to do it. And so your brain is going to
Speaker:crave technology. Your brain is gonna crave
Speaker:sweets. Right? It wants the most efficient and effective way to get
Speaker:its needs met. And when you
Speaker:take some of those options off the table, the brain has to
Speaker:work harder, but it's better for it.
Speaker:Isn't that kind of cool? So, like, the more
Speaker:screen free breaks you create, the easier it will be for your kids
Speaker:to shift from this restless protest to creative exploration.
Speaker:There is going to be resistance. There's going to be protests. I want you to
Speaker:allow for some of that discomfort. Be compassionate
Speaker:and trust that your child is their natural
Speaker:inborn need for fun and for play and
Speaker:for learning and for exploring and discovering and creativity,
Speaker:it will come out if you allow it, if you trust it,
Speaker:if you wait. Now
Speaker:that initial boredom, once your kids get
Speaker:over that feeling, right, they can learn to
Speaker:prevent it by finding activities that are meaningful to
Speaker:them. So once they kind of learn
Speaker:how to walk through that boredom, they're like, I don't wanna feel that again. I'm
Speaker:just gonna keep finding fun stuff for myself to a. And they can learn to
Speaker:keep themselves busy. We want
Speaker:our kids to become resilient. Right? We want them to have grit. We want
Speaker:them to be able to overcome difficult emotions. We
Speaker:want them to be imaginative. We want them to be creative. Right? We wanna be
Speaker:problem solvers. We want them to have confidence. Right? We
Speaker:want all of these things, and that is
Speaker:the way we get that is by letting them find
Speaker:their own solutions a not giving
Speaker:them so much structure and so many activities and so
Speaker:much going on that they don't get
Speaker:to practice this boredom and this discomfort.
Speaker:Let me think I asked the I answered the question a few minutes ago about,
Speaker:like, how much time should you a. And the truth is, like, what I've
Speaker:noticed about parents, particularly in the summer,
Speaker:but even in the school year, is that the activities are
Speaker:not stacked back to back, but there's, like, these
Speaker:weird gap periods of time. Like, you have, you know,
Speaker:30 minutes or 45 minutes between one thing before you have to get
Speaker:ready and leave for the next thing, and your
Speaker:kids are not in the relaxed,
Speaker:open exploration, discover mode.
Speaker:They're in, like, a transition. Like, I only have, you
Speaker:know, a little bit of time between now and the next thing. And they
Speaker:may not want to get involved in something Become there is this
Speaker:idea that they know they have to leave soon. And
Speaker:so if your kids aren't gonna be allowed
Speaker:enough time to get into an activity
Speaker:and then stay in that activity and then enjoy it, they may
Speaker:not be committed to trying. So that's if that's the case and you've
Speaker:already got your schedule going, then that means that you need to have a
Speaker:little plan of what they're going to do during
Speaker:that period of time so they don't get dysregulated and ask for
Speaker:screens or sweets or bug their sibling. That's a
Speaker:bid for connection. So instead, you would need to be thinking
Speaker:like, okay. When we get back from camp, they they have, you
Speaker:know, karate or jujitsu at, you know, at 4. We
Speaker:get home at 3. We need to leave at 3:45. So I think
Speaker:I'll have, like, quiet reading time, or I'm gonna
Speaker:put out, you know, coloring books. I'm gonna have them do some
Speaker:chores. Like, have a little plan in place, and then
Speaker:you will just tell them, nope. We're not doing screens. This is what we're doing,
Speaker:and, you know, take it or leave it, especially if it's not chores.
Speaker:You know, you can do these chores now, or you can do it when we
Speaker:get back, you know, that kind of, limit setting.
Speaker:But knowing that you might need to create an adult
Speaker:led activity if you don't have enough time for them to
Speaker:get into something. Think about yourself. Like,
Speaker:imagine like, this always happened to me is that I would
Speaker:have my morning. I drop the kids off, do my morning stuff, dah dah dah
Speaker:dah, run errands, whatever, work, and all that. And then I would get to, like,
Speaker:1:30 or 2, and I would know I needed to go
Speaker:leave soon for pickup. And I would then decide, oh, I
Speaker:can't really get into anything right now. And I would feel a little
Speaker:restless, and I might even waste that time on my phone.
Speaker:And for me, one of my ways of entertaining myself is with
Speaker:reading reading novels. And so I just kind of created a little lifestyle
Speaker:for myself that the 30 minutes before I left to go do pickup, I
Speaker:had this luxury is that I would read my book, whatever fiction book
Speaker:I was reading. Sometimes I would drive drive school to school early, and
Speaker:I would sit if it was not too hot, or I would just sit in
Speaker:my house. I literally sat and
Speaker:read my book. Or sometimes I would watch a show because I would be like,
Speaker:well, I'm not gonna be able to a show tonight until, like, 9, and I
Speaker:wanna relax, and I wanna have a good time. So I'm gonna sit here and
Speaker:watch a show, which is not
Speaker:you know, I'm gonna talk more about screens next week, but, obviously, I'm not a
Speaker:little kid where I'm getting my dopamine and all that all the time from
Speaker:screens. Right? Because I have a big life. So
Speaker:it can be a television show if you want it to be, but I would
Speaker:encourage that if you do use screens that they are in a
Speaker:communal environment and everyone is watching the same
Speaker:thing on the big TV, not individual
Speaker:devices where everyone is separated. So that way there's still
Speaker:some community aspect and some problem solving of what we're gonna watch
Speaker:and and all of that together. So there's some
Speaker:benefits. If you are gonna do screen, there's a lot of benefits to doing it
Speaker:as a community. So, but I just wanted you to notice
Speaker:for yourself. Like, sometimes you're bored. Sometimes you're restless. You don't know what to do
Speaker:with yourself, and you might find yourself scrolling on
Speaker:Instagram or something like that or reading the news or Twitter or whatever you
Speaker:do. And that might be your sugar,
Speaker:like your quick fix. And maybe there's something more enriching that
Speaker:you could do if you didn't have access to screens. What would you
Speaker:do? Maybe you would, you know, look a,
Speaker:everything I think about is, like, looking up stuff. But, maybe you would pet
Speaker:your dog or go for a walk or do some stretching or, you
Speaker:know, I don't know. Whatever task you might do or or
Speaker:activity that you might do, think about how you struggle in that moment.
Speaker:That's what I want you to a with. It's like that restless feeling you have
Speaker:when you're not sure what to do and you don't wanna get into something because
Speaker:you don't have a lot of time. That's kinda how your kids feel sometimes.
Speaker:So when they're in that dysregulated state a you can tell
Speaker:it's because they are bored, I want you to really be
Speaker:thinking, okay, they're bored. They're in a boredom gap. This is not
Speaker:a problem. You can offer them some compassion for
Speaker:their feelings. You know, you can be like, I get it. It's hard.
Speaker:You don't know what to do with yourself. That's that's normal. And you wanna,
Speaker:like, bug your brother, or you wanna bug your sister, or you wanna bug me,
Speaker:or you wanna bug the dog. That makes sense. That doesn't
Speaker:work. So you either need to figure out what you're gonna do, or I can
Speaker:help you. So what do you wanna do? Do you want some help? Do you
Speaker:want some ideas? And then you wait and
Speaker:see if they're ready for some ideas, and then you say, well, why don't you,
Speaker:you know, play a a, whatever the ideas are that you have. So
Speaker:like I said, I have a toolkit
Speaker:in the on my website, the summer toolkit, and has 80 plus
Speaker:boredom busters, and it kinda describes this boredom gap and the
Speaker:step by step directions of how to handle a boredom gap. So I
Speaker:highly encourage you you get your toolkit. Go to my website, calm on the
Speaker:coaching.com, and get that link and, you know,
Speaker:download that, toolkit. If you already have it,
Speaker:go back and remember this section and read through those boredom
Speaker:gap busters and get some ideas, and then follow the
Speaker:steps of naming it, being compassionate, and then
Speaker:asking if they want some support. Alright.
Speaker:I want you to remember
Speaker:that with once your child moves through the boredom
Speaker:gap, on the other side of that is
Speaker:fun. It's play. It's
Speaker:creativity. It's learning with their bodies.
Speaker:It's practicing gross motor movement. It's practicing fine
Speaker:motor. It's sitting and learning something.
Speaker:It's actually very enjoyable on the
Speaker:other side. So if you're if you as the
Speaker:parent, if you don't allow for that
Speaker:boredom, you don't allow for that discomfort,
Speaker:your kids, they don't get the experience of free
Speaker:and imaginative play. They don't
Speaker:learn that they have an innate love of nature or sports or
Speaker:art or just that pleasure they have of relaxing
Speaker:and reading a book or petting the dog or staring out the
Speaker:window and looking at how the wind and the birds come through.
Speaker:There's so much value to boredom. Think
Speaker:about your own childhood. Think about thinking about car
Speaker:rides before we had any devices and how, like,
Speaker:you sit in the car and you watch the trees go by, and it feels
Speaker:like the trees are moving and you're staying still.
Speaker:You know, that that feeling when you're just staring, the trees are like,
Speaker:a you're like, oh, am I moving or the tree's moving? Like,
Speaker:that's such a beautiful reflection. It's, like, so little
Speaker:kid like. Right? Just staring and going, That
Speaker:color green is different than that color green. Oh, look. There's a
Speaker:bird. Oh, is it windy outside? And
Speaker:then getting into that discover mode and going outside
Speaker:and feeling, oh, it's so hot. Oh, look. There's a bug. And
Speaker:then looking at the bug and then picking up the bug a then wondering if
Speaker:ladybugs have babies and having a whole conversation with yourself about
Speaker:ladybugs. That is Childress, And it
Speaker:does not happen on an iPad. It does
Speaker:not happen in an episode of Bluey. You might watch Bluey
Speaker:having those experiences, but that's not the
Speaker:same as you going in your own yard and finding your own friend to
Speaker:play with and figuring it out for yourself.
Speaker:So I hope that you see that
Speaker:there will be a gap between where
Speaker:the brain knows what it's supposed to be doing or is engaged
Speaker:to the next thing. That's a boredom gap. It's
Speaker:normal. Allow for it. Be okay with that
Speaker:uncomfortableness. Don't go to a solution
Speaker:yet. Be compassionate and wait. Wait for your kid's
Speaker:brain to crave it. They will Become
Speaker:that's what it's like to be a human child. It's super cool.
Speaker:Okay. If you have if you a help with this, like, for reals, like,
Speaker:you're like, okay, darling. I'm listening to your podcast, and I love it. And,
Speaker:also, I don't quite know how to do anything you ever say.
Speaker:Then I think I get it Become I feel the same way sometimes about stuff
Speaker:I'm learning. Just reach out. Book a consultation.
Speaker:I have a free 25 minute complimentary consultation with me. I
Speaker:have them, you know, scheduled, like, lots of times where you can
Speaker:pop into my calendar, and we'll just meet. You can talk to me in
Speaker:person. I'll tell you about my programs. I'll tell you about working with me, or
Speaker:I'll just kinda listen and get to know you. It's really lovely. I love
Speaker:these conversations so much. And, yeah. So do
Speaker:that. A. Go to programs, scroll
Speaker:down, schedule a consultation with me, and let's get to know each
Speaker:other. Okay. If you're listening to this, the day it
Speaker:comes out, happy 4th July, and I hope you are
Speaker:in your summer mode and having a good time and that you have lots and
Speaker:lots and lots of free, unstructured
Speaker:time for yourself and for your kids.
Speaker:Alright, a. I will talk to you next week.