LinkedIn, the digital networking event.
Speaker AWe're all attending, whether we like it or not.
Speaker AAnd none of us are getting breakfast provided, even if we're getting up at 5am Is it possible to build a community on LinkedIn without going in person?
Speaker ALet's figure it out together, shall we?
Speaker BWelcome to the asylum.
Speaker BLinkedIn will not like this podcast, but you will love it.
Speaker BBehave, LinkedIn lunatics.
Speaker BWe have visitors.
Speaker AAll right, picture this.
Speaker AYou've got the overly eager attendee shouting their accomplishments at anyone who'll listen.
Speaker AThere's that person who made it their mission to hand out 500 business cards before the first round of coffees.
Speaker AAnd there's that one guy who's hogging the coffee table, turning it into his own personal TED Talk stage.
Speaker ASound familiar?
Speaker AWe kind of all got into LinkedIn during the COVID era because we weren't wanting to go to these events, but we still knew we had to talk about our business to somebody.
Speaker AAll the platforms weren't really that Busy anymore, so LinkedIn seemed like the only option.
Speaker ASo today we're exploring why LinkedIn doesn't have to feel like a B and I event and can still leverage some of that slightly cooler aspect of being on a digital networking platform.
Speaker AHow it could be more about meaningful conversations rather than dodging a monologue about quarterly KPIs with some random who's just connected with you.
Speaker AWhat do our visitors think about this very topic?
Speaker AWho's our first visitor?
Speaker BMichelle J.
Speaker BRaymond is a company pages expert.
Speaker CIt becomes easier when you surround yourself with cool people in your community and make sure that you're hanging out with the right people, because I'll give you the handy tip.
Speaker CAnd, you know, I'm going to quote my mom on this one.
Speaker CYou hang out with garbage, you smell like it.
Speaker CSo if you want to go and hang out with the Potters, you're going to smell like them.
Speaker CAnd I've had this conversation with many people.
Speaker CLike, you'll be surrounded by people cheating the system.
Speaker CAnd I'll give you the handy tip that is not going to make you feel good about yourself.
Speaker CYou are just going to be going, oh, my God, how are they getting these numbers and I'm not?
Speaker CAnd this is the thing.
Speaker CAnd even people who aren't allegedly, and you know, engagement pods, they look like they are.
Speaker CAnd it breaks that trust at the end of the day.
Speaker CAnd if you break digital trust, I don't think you can ever mend it.
Speaker CI honestly don't.
Speaker CAnd you know, I don't think people think about that.
Speaker CEnough.
Speaker ARegular Asylum visitor John is going to take us away from the chaos of the main stage and into the quieter corners of the networking room.
Speaker AYou know, where the real connections happen.
Speaker BCommunity membership expert John Esperian.
Speaker DWell, I think LinkedIn is a big place, right?
Speaker DIt's got more than a billion members and I think for a lot of people it's confusing, but also it's a little bit scary to put your thoughts out into the world.
Speaker DSo finding your tribe and finding the small kind of niche pockets where you can maybe open up a little bit more and share what you're really thinking about, what's going on in your business or whatever other challenges you've got, that's really, really powerful.
Speaker DSo finding those small communities is just a case of, you know, vibing with your tribe, whatever you want to call it, but just finding a space of comfort where you can see other like minded people and that gives you a better chance of growing versus comparing yourself with the billion plus members in one hit and then shying away from actually showing up and doing the work because everyone else looks super successful.
Speaker DIt's just getting away from that public spotlight, having a bit more privacy and that's where you can grow a bit better.
Speaker AOne of our newer Asylum visitors, Sophie, brings the energy of that one person at the event who actually listens to your introduction and remembers your name without needing to write it down on a piece of paper that she'll discard later when she gets back home.
Speaker AShe's here to remind us that showing up consistently and genuinely can turn into a meaningful follow up.
Speaker ESophie Lee, have something good to say that people care about and keep saying it until you start to build a community.
Speaker EI think certainly community is a really important part of this actually, because since I started posting on LinkedIn, I've noticed that there's like a support network that's gathered around me where they will always be there when I post.
Speaker EAnd it gives you, at least in the beginning, it gives you a real sense of that you're not shouting into the void, which can become the momentum that you need to keep going.
Speaker EAnd then eventually you reach your ideal customer.
Speaker EFor me, the most important thing is to focus on community building.
Speaker EAnd by that I mean literally getting to know the people within your network and caring enough and engaging with them and really giving your time and energy to them.
Speaker EAnd it becomes a reciprocal thing.
Speaker AOne of our OG asylum visitors takes LinkedIn relationships to a whole new level.
Speaker AImagine leaving an actual networking event not just with some random business cards, but with real friends, people you'd actually go out on a holiday with that Sounds wild, right?
Speaker AWell, this lady got some stories that'll make you rethink how far LinkedIn connections can actually go.
Speaker BKatie McManus.
Speaker FYou get to make actual, real friendships with people.
Speaker FI mean, I have friends, like, all over the uk, all over the United States, literally.
Speaker FThis summer in June, I flew from Cape Cod to DC to go see a client who lives in the DC area.
Speaker FStayed at her place for a night.
Speaker FWe drove from the D.C.
Speaker Farea down to South Carolina to spend the night at another friend's house that we met through LinkedIn.
Speaker FWe'd never met her in person before in our lives.
Speaker FPicked her up, drove to Orlando to an event by another client of mine who was hosting a launch party with a bunch of other people that I've met through LinkedIn.
Speaker FAnd it was the most natural thing in the world.
Speaker FIt felt like I was hanging out with family.
Speaker FAnd honestly, like, I'm not even that comfortable with my family, so it was better than hanging out with family.
Speaker FAnd we literally spent four nights there in Orlando, just by the pool, hanging out, doing work, being at the launch party for this company.
Speaker FAnd then we reversed it.
Speaker FWe drove from Orlando to South Carolina to D.C.
Speaker Fand then I flew back to the Cape.
Speaker FThat doesn't happen on Facebook.
Speaker FLike, everyone that you're connected with on Facebook is already your friend.
Speaker FRight.
Speaker FYou already know them, and you probably don't want to go on a road trip with them on Instagram.
Speaker FI'm just not seeing people make that.
Speaker FThat close of a connection.
Speaker FIt's possible on Instagram, absolutely.
Speaker FYou can make friends and become close with people, but it doesn't happen at the level that it happens on LinkedIn.
Speaker FRight.
Speaker FI have a friend who lives in Indonesia, and we have each other's WhatsApp numbers, and we'll just, like, text each other, like, hey, man, I love you.
Speaker FHope you're doing great.
Speaker FAnd we'll just occasionally hop on the phone and talk through stuff, and we support each other's posts and comments and comment on each other's things.
Speaker FAnd I just think that's, like, such a beautiful gift that this platform offers.
Speaker FAnd I think, you know, whoever invented LinkedIn early on, like, they probably are just.
Speaker FI mean, I was going to say rolling in their grave, but I think they're probably still alive, just completely flummoxed by what this platform has turned into.
Speaker FAnd I think ultimately this is.
Speaker FThis came from the pandemic.
Speaker FI think people were really starving for human connection, and they weren't comfortable on Instagram and Facebook didn't feel like the right place.
Speaker FSo they started turning to LinkedIn and it just kind of blossomed into this really cool community building place.
Speaker AOkay, it's time to call out the look at me brigade.
Speaker AYou know the type, the ones who interrupt every group discussion to talk about their award winning strategy.
Speaker AThis lady's advice, if you wouldn't tolerate it at a breakfast networking event, why let it fly on LinkedIn?
Speaker BSales trainer Tracy Bedwell as we know.
Speaker GThere are tools, AI tools and things that you can pay for and they will send out your post to all these people and get them to post it for you.
Speaker GThere are people who do it not with tools, but more like you've said, whereby, hey, I've put a post up, here's the link to my post, let's all comment on it and vice versa.
Speaker GIt was funny, I saw a post the other day and a lady put some top tips on how to succeed on LinkedIn.
Speaker GAnd we know what, everyone's a LinkedIn trainer, aren't they?
Speaker GI mean, you're out.
Speaker GSo this woman had put some top tips up on how to do well on LinkedIn.
Speaker GAnd I think it was John Esperian and he'd said, you know, here's some great tips, but I think you're wrong on one of them because one of the things she put on there was gather together a group of friends and like and comment on each other's posts.
Speaker GAnd he said, I think that's what you call a pod and it's against LinkedIn's best practice.
Speaker GAnd she'd quickly jumped back on and said, no, that's not a pod.
Speaker GI am not talking about that.
Speaker GI am talking about maybe get your husband and your best friend.
Speaker GAnd I was just like, why would you do that?
Speaker GWhat value does your husband or your best friend bring to the party adding a comment on your post?
Speaker GHere's a post I did today.
Speaker GYou won't pop a like or comment on it.
Speaker GIt's a pod and it's stupid and you're not going to get any business from it.
Speaker HJoe Watson I have had my own community for like four years now and it's absolutely wonderful.
Speaker HIt started off as helping people write more effectively for their business or their ventures and now it's like, you know, it's just supporting people as a kind of like a micro network in itself, which is wonderful.
Speaker HAnd then myself and my husband, we have set up this other community where we are helping people to become more effective networkers, whether it's Online or in person.
Speaker HAnd Christ, it's only when you've got a group of those people on that zoom with you that you realize just how much people hate it, and they hate it for what it's become.
Speaker HAnd LinkedIn is an example of that.
Speaker HLinkedIn should be a brilliant place to network, but because it has become absolutely saturated with people who are not there to network, they are there to go, look at me, look at me, look at me.
Speaker HAnd just as you would avoid that person at a real life, you know, 6:00am breakfast with, with cold coffee and stale croissants, talking to some bloody accountant who should not have been let out of the office at all, you know, LinkedIn's become that place as well.
Speaker HLinkedIn, you know, although, although nobody in a, in an actual meeting is going, look at me, look at me, look at me.
Speaker HThey're all just boring you to death.
Speaker HSorry for anyone who's in a networking group, including my husband, but the, the online one is just like the other side of it.
Speaker HIt's like, look at me, look at me, look at me.
Speaker HI don't care about you.
Speaker HI'm not here for you.
Speaker HI'm here to, to show you how great I am.
Speaker HAnd it's just like two very shit sides of a very shit coin.
Speaker ATime to get candid about those awkward moments when someone starts asking for favors five seconds after saying hello to you for the first time on LinkedIn, they're not just asking for your card, they're sending you a DM with a pitch.
Speaker AAnd yeah, it's cringey.
Speaker AJust as cringe online as it is in person.
Speaker BJohn Esperian.
Speaker DI think a lot of people just try and do a direct sell.
Speaker DYou know, they'll set up a group or call it a community, and it's just a mouthpiece for that content creator to try and sell their course, sell their book, sell whatever else.
Speaker DAnd that tends not to work.
Speaker DIf you look at Most groups on LinkedIn, for example, they're either ghost towns because they're not being run properly because there's no active conversation going on there, or they're complete spam fests.
Speaker DYou know, it's just someone else's agenda being pushed relentlessly, and that doesn't work.
Speaker DRunning one of these communities is a lot of work.
Speaker DIt's.
Speaker DThere are easier ways of making money than running your own community, I can tell you that much, for starters.
Speaker DBut if you have a clear agenda of what you want that community to be known for, and you foster discussion without trying to see everyone as a dollar sign, then that's a good starting point for building some kind of safe space where you can actually have meaningful discussions.
Speaker DThat's what it's all about.
Speaker ASo what's the takeaway from our Visit to the Asylum's very own LinkedIn networking event?
Speaker ADon't be the person who treats it like a soapbox, or worse, a speed dating session for sales pitches.
Speaker AInstead, think of it as a chance to build relationships that last longer than the free coffee.
Speaker AAnd that's it for today's visiting session.
Speaker AVisiting hours are over, and once again It's a reminder.
Speaker ALinkedIn, like a great networking event, should leave you with stories to tell, connections to nurture, and maybe even a friend or two.
Speaker ADon't bother with the cheesy elevator pitches.
Speaker AFocus on creating moments that matter.
Speaker ABecause nobody remembers the person who wouldn't stop talking about themselves, especially if it was within two minutes of meeting you.
Speaker AThey'll always remember the one who actually listened to them.
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Speaker AOn behalf of the warden and everyone here at the Asylum, we're looking forward to your next visit.
Speaker BGoodbye.
Speaker BWatch your back, you, and we'll talk to you soon.
Speaker BOn another episode of the Asylum.