>> Dr. Anna Hanslin: If you look at women's history in the Caribbean, it
Speaker:forces you outside of that very narrow
Speaker:Eurocentric box of looking at history as defined
Speaker:by wars and empires and political changes
Speaker:that are dominated by white men.
Speaker:>> Unidentified (Podcast Host): Welcome to Whispers of the Past,
Speaker:a podcast that takes you on a journey through
Speaker:history told through the voices often left
Speaker:in the dark. Here we stand at the crossroad
Speaker:of historical storytelling and women's
Speaker:history, shedding a light on
Speaker:synthesias from a perspective
Speaker:rarely explored. Our goal is to
Speaker:approach history through a different kind of lens.
Speaker:We'll use the concept of a canon.
Speaker:A canon is a structured, chronological
Speaker:walk through history that lets us
Speaker:trace each step in order it happened,
Speaker:revealing how one event flows into the
Speaker:next. With this approach, we
Speaker:begin by laying the groundwork of
Speaker:introducing Stacia's location,
Speaker:its early history, and its linguistic
Speaker:roots. From here, we start with
Speaker:indigenous history and move forward each
Speaker:episode into Ostatia's rich
Speaker:history to the present day.
Speaker:Due to the gaps in historical records,
Speaker:we also embrace a concept called
Speaker:braiding knowledge, combining
Speaker:insight from regional sources and
Speaker:lived experiences. You will hear from
Speaker:historians, heritage experts,
Speaker:regional scholars, and local residents,
Speaker:each helping us weave together Stacia's
Speaker:story as we walk the timeline
Speaker:together. And at the heart of
Speaker:this podcast is the reason for our name, Whispers
Speaker:of the Past. Women's voices were often
Speaker:silenced and were seldom recorded in
Speaker:history. And here we listen to those
Speaker:whispers and bring them to life, the stories
Speaker:that history has almost forgotten to
Speaker:mention. Together, let's
Speaker:uncover these voices to
Speaker:start our journey. We delve into why it's so important
Speaker:to tell history from a women's perspective.
Speaker:>> Ms. Sutekau: The world doesn't exist without women,
Speaker:and it's about time that the
Speaker:world understood
Speaker:that we are as powerful
Speaker:and strong, as intelligent,
Speaker:and much more
Speaker:proactive, particularly when it
Speaker:comes to the education of our children,
Speaker:the welfares of our family, and the
Speaker:welfare of our community. Those
Speaker:are things women have always stood
Speaker:for and stood up for.
Speaker:A woman should have the
Speaker:exact same opportunities as a
Speaker:man, and she should be given
Speaker:the same rights and privileges.
Speaker:>> Unidentified (Podcast Host): Ms. Sutekau, a local resident of St.
Speaker:Eustatias and one of the founders of the island's
Speaker:center of Archaeological Research,
Speaker:reminds us of the essential strength and
Speaker:role women have played in shaping society.
Speaker:Reflecting on women's contribution in the past
Speaker:does more than show us where we've been.
Speaker:It also illuminates the path ahead.
Speaker:Historian Dr. Anna Hanslin will take
Speaker:us deeper into this idea, explaining
Speaker:how a greater understanding of women's role
Speaker:throughout history helps us shift our perspective
Speaker:into the present.
Speaker:>> Dr. Anna Hanslin: I think that, uh, a
Speaker:greater contemporary understanding of the richness
Speaker:of women's roles in the past allows
Speaker:us to really appreciate and
Speaker:justify a richness of women's roles in the
Speaker:present. I think that one of the key
Speaker:reasons we need to look at women in the past
Speaker:is to empower women in the present and the
Speaker:future. Because if we think of the past, for
Speaker:example, as a place where
Speaker:women were never politically important,
Speaker:it makes it a lot easier for a
Speaker:patriarchal society to argue that they should continue
Speaker:to remain unimportant. You can pick pretty
Speaker:much any area of human
Speaker:life and think about the fact that women
Speaker:traditionally have done it all. They've been doctors, they've
Speaker:been rulers, they've been diplomats, they've
Speaker:been merchants, they've been
Speaker:makers of beautiful and utilitarian things.
Speaker:And to think that they have only
Speaker:traditionally been wives and mothers
Speaker:is something that, I think, um, has led to a
Speaker:lot of assumptions about what women
Speaker:can and should do. That has
Speaker:led to some, a distinct lack of
Speaker:empowerment and also to recognize the fact
Speaker:that being a wife and a mother is also a
Speaker:job. Right. And that it's something that is labor, and that
Speaker:for far too often in Western capitalist
Speaker:society, it's not valued because it's not commodified in the
Speaker:same way that other labor is.
Speaker:>> Unidentified (Podcast Host): Dr. Anna Hanslin points out that
Speaker:assumptions about women's roles have
Speaker:long shaped what we think women can or should
Speaker:do today. This also speaks to the
Speaker:importance of telling a, uh, full history.
Speaker:Dr. Anna Hansling continues, sharing how
Speaker:women's histories often bring new, overlooked
Speaker:layers to our understanding of the
Speaker:Caribbean.
Speaker:>> Dr. Anna Hanslin: That history begins with European contact
Speaker:and settlement in the Caribbean. We know that's
Speaker:false and does, uh, severe injustice to
Speaker:the many indigenous people who lived in the
Speaker:Caribbean before Europeans made contact
Speaker:and then settled there. So I
Speaker:think it's parallel to what happens with
Speaker:women's history in general. If you look at women's history in
Speaker:the Caribbean, it forces you
Speaker:outside of that very narrow Eurocentric box
Speaker:of looking at history as defined by wars, empires,
Speaker:and political changes that are dominated by white
Speaker:men. Focusing on that type of history
Speaker:which glorifies the
Speaker:European exploration and what
Speaker:we for a long time erroneously called discovery of the
Speaker:Caribbean drives that narrative. That history
Speaker:is only important if it deals with things like
Speaker:conquest, economic systems
Speaker:and political settlement
Speaker:patterns and wars between nations and
Speaker:empires. I think that is the type of history that
Speaker:dominated a Eurocentric viewpoint of the
Speaker:Caribbean for a very long time. And if you
Speaker:put women's history into that picture,
Speaker:it reminds you, first of all, that there is
Speaker:a history that is outside of the
Speaker:existence of empires deciding that they want
Speaker:to nominally say this island now belongs to another empire
Speaker:rather than the previous one, et cetera. And
Speaker:St. Eustatius obviously is in many ways
Speaker:one of the best examples in the Caribbean of that, since it changed
Speaker:hands among empires so many times. And I think
Speaker:also it's a good reminder that there is
Speaker:a really crucial human
Speaker:history of
Speaker:indigenous and enslaved people whose
Speaker:lives are not defined so much by big
Speaker:imperial structural changes like war and
Speaker:transfer of deeds, et cetera, but defined by
Speaker:things like raising children and
Speaker:caring for people. So histories of medicine, histories of
Speaker:family, cultural history, you can learn
Speaker:a lot about people in their past by looking at what they
Speaker:choose to eat over time and how that
Speaker:changes and how it stays the same. There is an
Speaker:emotional valence to something like food history. Right. A
Speaker:lot of people will have a very emotional response
Speaker:to a food that they associate with their childhood or a
Speaker:very emotional response to a, uh, food that reminds
Speaker:them of their cultural heritage. And I think
Speaker:that's something people don't usually have quite
Speaker:the same emotional reaction to learning about a battle that took place on an
Speaker:island they'd never been to. Right. So I think that
Speaker:is partly true. I also think, though, that
Speaker:thinking about women's history in the
Speaker:context of the larger history of the Caribbean, for
Speaker:example, reminds us that you can't
Speaker:separate women from things that have traditionally
Speaker:been told in a male dominated way, like the
Speaker:history of commerce and capitalism and histories of war and
Speaker:empire, because without women,
Speaker:you don't have successful commerce. Women
Speaker:are making a lot of the things that men are also making.
Speaker:They're certainly buying. And that's just
Speaker:one example of how it is
Speaker:again, even within these, what have traditionally been dominated
Speaker:by male centric histories. If you look a little deeper
Speaker:and think about it, you'll understand that women are integral to
Speaker:those histories too. They just haven't been folded into it
Speaker:traditionally. And so I think again,
Speaker:uncovering and appreciating the richness of women's
Speaker:historical roles in the past really allows us
Speaker:to think, what is the limit for
Speaker:women? There's no limit for women besides what patriarchal
Speaker:systems choose to put on them.
Speaker:>> Unidentified (Podcast Host): Dr. Anna Hanslin reveals how deeply
Speaker:women's histories can reshape our understanding
Speaker:of the Caribbean, reminding us to consider
Speaker:perspectives often left out of the mainstream
Speaker:narratives. The broader approach
Speaker:allows us to connect with the personal, cultural
Speaker:and everyday lives of those who shape the
Speaker:region. With the same lens,
Speaker:we turn to the origin of synthustatia's name,
Speaker:a name that carries centuries of layered
Speaker:history. Historian and
Speaker:Syntustacea's Heritage Inspector Mr.
Speaker:Richardson will guide us through the mystery
Speaker:surrounding the island's evolving identity,
Speaker:from Columbus
Speaker:misinterpretation to the name that
Speaker:has defined Statia for centuries.
Speaker:>> Mr. Richardson: It's very interesting because the island wasn't originally
Speaker:named Centustatius by Christopher Columbus,
Speaker:um, when he was actually sailing through
Speaker:the Caribbean in his so called Age
Speaker:of Rediscovery. Let me just call it
Speaker:that rediscovery, because there are already people living
Speaker:here. One of the interesting things is in
Speaker:1493, I think it was his third voyage
Speaker:actually, he sailed by St. Eustatius
Speaker:and he named the island Santa Maria
Speaker:de la Nive, which is English
Speaker:for Saint Mary of the Snow.
Speaker:Where. Why would he name it that? But that's what he
Speaker:called the island, St. Mary of the Snow. It's quite
Speaker:interesting because I have looked through many records
Speaker:in different countries, especially the ones from
Speaker:Columbus in his journal. I think it's a huge
Speaker:mystery because why would he name the Island
Speaker:St. Mary of the Snow? But
Speaker:then it goes back to his journals and that
Speaker:while traveling he thought the island was covered
Speaker:in snow. He thought the quail was
Speaker:covered in snow because it was all white according to
Speaker:his description, not in clouds, but the top of the mountain was
Speaker:white. That made me think of
Speaker:transforming into today. If I'm on a
Speaker:ship in 1493, never seeing a volcano with
Speaker:ash before, could he have mistaken
Speaker:volcanic ash on the quill at that
Speaker:time for an eruption that happened maybe a
Speaker:few centuries earlier, a thousand years earlier? And when you look
Speaker:at all the layers of soil, especially at the airport area,
Speaker:because I'm not an archaeologist, I'm, um, an historian, it makes me
Speaker:wonder, could those two things, you know, have coincided
Speaker:with each other? And then fast
Speaker:forward in around
Speaker:1523, Francis Drake, who
Speaker:starts using Stacia, he picks up from
Speaker:a French missionary, we found out that the island's indigenous
Speaker:name was Aloi. And then you're
Speaker:going down the line, the island is still being referred to
Speaker:as Statia or
Speaker:Estacia, still no saint in front
Speaker:of it. And the island, the name that Columbus gave the
Speaker:island, eventually ended up going to Nevis.
Speaker:So that's where Nevis Nive got its name from. And
Speaker:then we're stuck with Thasia or East Asia
Speaker:for a very long time and or Aloi
Speaker:on many old Spanish maps that you see in Spain
Speaker:or in Columbus's old ship logs of his
Speaker:journey, his journals. But anyway, after the
Speaker:British or the English at the time. Then it
Speaker:disappears and then it reappears as Santa
Speaker:Anastasia again. Where did that one
Speaker:come from? It's not labeled. And then Santa Anastasia
Speaker:is dropped. And then there's St. Eustatius.
Speaker:And what's interesting about our name is that most
Speaker:Caribbean islands, even like St. Martin, has St. Martin's
Speaker:Day on November 11, which is actually the day of the
Speaker:saint. Most Caribbean islands, like St. Lucia, et
Speaker:cetera, in the past, their national feast day at the height of
Speaker:colonialism was linked to the day of their saints.
Speaker:But St. Eustatius was never linked to any of those
Speaker:days because I think St. Eustatius Day is the 24th
Speaker:of September or the 25th of
Speaker:September, and our national day is in November. So you see that
Speaker:the name was just, I don't know, attached to the island, but
Speaker:then we started being known as, uh, St. Eustatia
Speaker:Stacia, right up to now. But I tend to
Speaker:think that the name Statia is actually
Speaker:interesting because we don't quite know
Speaker:where it came from because it doesn't come out
Speaker:of the word Saint Eustachians. It was used before.
Speaker:So that makes our name quite unique. In the Caribbean, we m
Speaker:were named after saints, so Santa Maria, St.
Speaker:Mary of the Snow, that was Columbus's first name. Santa
Speaker:Anastasia, Saint Eustatius. We were
Speaker:named after saints. And like I
Speaker:said, Columbus's journey to the
Speaker:Caribbean, on the day that he was naming the
Speaker:islands, like the 6th of January, he was in the area of
Speaker:Trinidad, so that's why he became La Trinidad. He was
Speaker:really naming places on the feast day of many
Speaker:Catholic festivals in Spain when he was
Speaker:traveling. But on the day when he
Speaker:comes by Saint Eustatius, it's also not Saint
Speaker:Eustatius feast day. So it's a whole
Speaker:mystery of who really gave us their Saint
Speaker:Eustatius name. And. But eventually it stuck.
Speaker:And it's quite unique because it's quite long.
Speaker:>> Unidentified (Podcast Host): From the layers of history embedded in
Speaker:Cintastatia's name, we turn now to the
Speaker:island's physical presence, its
Speaker:geography and location within the
Speaker:Caribbean. To help us understand
Speaker:how Synthastacia's unique landscape has
Speaker:shaped its history, we welcome Dr.
Speaker:Stelton, an archaeologist who has
Speaker:worked extensively on Stacia.
Speaker:>> Dr. Stelton: Stacia is basically located, um, right in the middle
Speaker:of a cluster of islands in the Lesser
Speaker:Antilian, uh, the arc of Lesser Antilian islands, basically
Speaker:in the northeastern Caribbean. It's a very interesting
Speaker:location because it is very close to a
Speaker:lot of other islands. Right. Whereas stone straw, away from
Speaker:Ceiba from St. Martin, from Anguilla,
Speaker:from Saint Barts, from St. Kitts and Nevis, and even Antigua
Speaker:is not that far.
Speaker:>> Unidentified (Podcast Host): You know, being part
Speaker:of this close knit cluster of islands,
Speaker:Cus occupies a prime
Speaker:location for both cultural and
Speaker:economic exchange. Its
Speaker:proximity to these neighboring islands has long
Speaker:influenced its identity, impacting
Speaker:everything from trade routes to cultural connections
Speaker:over the centuries.
Speaker:>> Dr. Stelton: In the 18th century, it became such an important
Speaker:trading hub. In the 1970s and 1980s,
Speaker:a large oil transshipment facility was set up
Speaker:there. And both of those reasons are very similar
Speaker:because St. Eustace is located at what is called
Speaker:a point of minimal deviation. And that means
Speaker:that it is very close to the location
Speaker:where a lot of shipping routes intersect. What that means
Speaker:is that if you, um, are doing business on St. Eustacia,
Speaker:you're very easily accessible from established shipping
Speaker:routes.
Speaker:>> Unidentified (Podcast Host): This strategic location was key not
Speaker:only during the 18th century when Stacia became
Speaker:a bustling trading hub, but also in the
Speaker:20th century because of its deep water
Speaker:ports, making it an ideal location for
Speaker:oil transshipment facility.
Speaker:One of Stacia's unique features is its
Speaker:diverse landscape. Stacia has
Speaker:three distinct regions.
Speaker:We have the towering Quill, the volcano
Speaker:which dominates the southern skyline,
Speaker:the rugged northern hills, and then the
Speaker:relatively flat plains that lies in
Speaker:between. This very terrain
Speaker:has a profound influence how the island's
Speaker:history and settlement have evolved over time,
Speaker:shaping both its natural beauty
Speaker:and its story. But how
Speaker:did the unique landscape come to be? And
Speaker:what role did the volcanic activity play in
Speaker:forming the island's distinct regions?
Speaker:>> Dr. Stelton: Quite a bit of geological and volcanological research
Speaker:has been done on Stacia, especially by
Speaker:Rubel and Smith. Back in the early 2000s, they figured
Speaker:out that Statia originally
Speaker:consisted of the northern hills. That's an
Speaker:extinct volcanic cluster that formed
Speaker:probably between 1 and 2 million years ago. It is still
Speaker:relatively young, geologically speaking. That was the original
Speaker:Statia. There was nothing else around it. It was just
Speaker:that. Now, what happened sometime between 40
Speaker:and 50,000 years ago, according to volcanologists, is that
Speaker:the quills started forming. That starts forming as a submarine
Speaker:volcano. That submarine volcano grows and keeps growing. It breaks
Speaker:the surface and it forms a separate island.
Speaker:So there was a period of time, several tens of thousands of years
Speaker:ago when there was two Statias.
Speaker:There was one in the north and one in the south. That was to become the Quill, and
Speaker:then eventually the Quill. Um, after several periods
Speaker:of volcanic activity, it grew into what it
Speaker:is now. And at some point it connected, um, the
Speaker:northern and the southern and, uh, became one. For such
Speaker:a small island, it has a few very distinct
Speaker:regions. You go up into the Quill and, um,
Speaker:you hike inside the crater, and it's a completely different world. I really
Speaker:like that, that you have these places. Even though it's such a small island
Speaker:and you're always around people, there's ways to
Speaker:escape it.
Speaker:>> Unidentified (Podcast Host): The unique formation of Sinta Statius tells us a
Speaker:story both above and below the surface.
Speaker:Initially, Stacia was a single landmass.
Speaker:But tens of thousands of years ago, a new
Speaker:volcanic event began shaping the southern part of
Speaker:the island. The Quill,
Speaker:our volcano, emerged from the sea as a
Speaker:separate island, eventually connecting the
Speaker:northern hills to create Stacia as we know it
Speaker:today. Together,
Speaker:these distinct regions offer incredible
Speaker:diversity. Beneath the waves,
Speaker:Sintustasia has its own dramatic
Speaker:landscape. Sitting on a shallow submarine
Speaker:bank shared with Tsunkitts and Nevis,
Speaker:the water around the island ranges from only
Speaker:40 to 60 meters deep. But
Speaker:venturing further out, and the seafloor drops
Speaker:off sharply. The
Speaker:underwater topography mirrors the island's
Speaker:striking surface feature,
Speaker:especially around the Quill, where the terrain rises
Speaker:up from the depths, creating a dramatic
Speaker:spectacle both above and below.
Speaker:But it's not only the island's physical features
Speaker:that have evolved over time. Its history of
Speaker:changing hands between colonial powers has left
Speaker:a unique mark on Stacia's identity,
Speaker:even down to the names of the mountains,
Speaker:bays and landmarks. Dr.
Speaker:Stelton will explain to us how these
Speaker:shifting names tell a story of their own,
Speaker:reflecting the island's composite, complex colonial
Speaker:past and its blend of languages and
Speaker:culture.
Speaker:>> Dr. Stelton: This is also an interesting kind of thing about
Speaker:Stacia's history, how certain place names have
Speaker:been corrupted over the years. So the island
Speaker:changed hands 22 times in about 180 years
Speaker:between the Dutch, British and French throughout the colonial
Speaker:period. So what happens is that initially the
Speaker:Dutch, they name certain geographical features, such
Speaker:as bays, mountains and roads
Speaker:even, and things like that. And the French come in and they give their own
Speaker:spin on that. Uh, yeah, and then the British come in and they do
Speaker:the same thing, and then the Dutch come in. So all of these names are
Speaker:a very interesting mix. So the Dutch, they
Speaker:initially named the Quill, which they called the
Speaker:Vilberg, the Fire Mountain. That was the kind of the term in the
Speaker:17th century for a volcano. They initially called it the
Speaker:Kyle. So the crater was called the Kyle, which means the
Speaker:pit, right, the pit of the mountain. And when the British
Speaker:at some point took over, they thought, oh, Kyle, oh, uh, that's a Quill.
Speaker:Right. So they just corrupted that into Quill.
Speaker:Basically the way that they could pronounce it, you see
Speaker:on some old maps, you'll see the name Kyle. And then again it
Speaker:changes a few years later to Quill. And that's the name that has.
Speaker:Yeah, that has stuck. There's numerous examples like that. For
Speaker:example, the bay where the oil terminal is located. Where you have
Speaker:the long jetty going out. That used to be Tomoelen
Speaker:Dijk. That was the Dutch name. And the British, they call it Tumbledown
Speaker:Dick. I don't know which one is first, actually. They sound very
Speaker:alike. So one must have been derived from the other, I would
Speaker:say.
Speaker:>> Unidentified (Podcast Host): As synthastaceas has changed hands and names
Speaker:over centuries. The landscape itself was also
Speaker:transforming, Shaped by both natural
Speaker:forces and human impact. From the
Speaker:island's lush tropical forests. To the limited
Speaker:freshwater resources, Stacia
Speaker:presented a unique set of challenges for those
Speaker:who settled here. Dr. Stelton
Speaker:explains how these environmental factors
Speaker:not only influenced daily life, but also
Speaker:dictated the way in which people adapted to the
Speaker:land.
Speaker:>> Dr. Stelton: So if you, um,
Speaker:would be sailing by St. Eustatia five,
Speaker:600 years ago, it would be a very
Speaker:different island from what it is now. And from what it was
Speaker:maybe 200 years after.
Speaker:Um, because the island initially was
Speaker:probably covered in a very thick tropical
Speaker:forest. And that has been almost completely cut
Speaker:away. Mainly in the early period of
Speaker:colonization. Just to make room for sugarcane and other
Speaker:cash crops. Humans have had a significant impact
Speaker:on the vegetation. There is still a little bit of native
Speaker:vegetation that is. That is preserved, especially
Speaker:on the crater rim. But I guess terrain impacted the
Speaker:humans a lot more. The water situation on Stacia is
Speaker:very interesting. There's a lot of islands around there
Speaker:that have fresh water sources, such as
Speaker:sinkheads. Now, in Stacia, that is not the case. Yes, there
Speaker:are many wells around the island, especially along the
Speaker:coast, which produce brackish water. The main way that
Speaker:people got water is collecting rainwater in cistern.
Speaker:And so that has had a significant impact on the island as well. For
Speaker:example, think about ships back in the day were coming to Stacia
Speaker:to trade in those historic ship logs. That a lot of
Speaker:these ships, they would be getting their water from neighboring St. Kitts, actually,
Speaker:because there was such an abundance of water there while on
Speaker:Stacia. Even though there are plenty of large
Speaker:cisterns, especially in Lower Town as well, that were being
Speaker:constructed. I think 14 or 15 known
Speaker:historic cisterns that were in Lowertown. Um,
Speaker:so obviously they would be supplying not just the island,
Speaker:but most Likely also some of the ships in port to some
Speaker:extent. But the fact that these ships go to a neighboring island
Speaker:to get water shows that there's probably not enough.
Speaker:It was never an easy island to settle, I think even though people made
Speaker:it work.
Speaker:>> Unidentified (Podcast Host): The environmental challenges of
Speaker:synthestaceas ranged from deforestation
Speaker:to limited water supplies. This really shaped how
Speaker:people adapted to life on the island.
Speaker:Yet, uh, the social landscape was also
Speaker:evolving, especially as colonial
Speaker:powers competed for the control of this
Speaker:small but yet strategic island.
Speaker:With each shift in power, a blend of
Speaker:culture and languages emerged, leaving a
Speaker:mark on the community.
Speaker:Dr. Stelton explores how these colonial
Speaker:transitions shape the linguistic and
Speaker:cultural identity of Stacia, a
Speaker:legacy that endures to this day.
Speaker:>> Dr. Stelton: With the island being conquered several times by the British, and then the
Speaker:French, and then the Dutch again British, et cetera, et
Speaker:cetera. Um, you
Speaker:would expect that there would be, like,
Speaker:at least a bit of a mix or different languages on the island
Speaker:historically as well. Um, but what's interesting is
Speaker:that even though for most of its
Speaker:colonial period history, Stacia has been
Speaker:Dutch, especially The last, um, 208 years,
Speaker:it's been Dutch continuously. And Dutch is
Speaker:the official language and the language in government.
Speaker:Right. But on the street, there's not a whole lot of
Speaker:people who speak Dutch. And even the ones
Speaker:who do know how to speak Dutch, they usually speak
Speaker:English anyway, because that's the general language on the island.
Speaker:Right. And I think that partly has to do with the fact that,
Speaker:of course, the island changed hands so many times over the years.
Speaker:Back in the day, a lot of people were trading with the British
Speaker:colonies, such as St. Kitts and Antigua.
Speaker:But also nowadays, a lot of station people, they
Speaker:have their family on those islands, especially in places
Speaker:like St. Kitts, for example. And so, um,
Speaker:obviously, as a former British colony and part of the
Speaker:English Caribbean, they speak English. So I think
Speaker:all those reasons combined make it so that
Speaker:officially the language on Stacia is Dutch,
Speaker:but in reality, everybody just speaks English.
Speaker:>> Unidentified (Podcast Host): As Dr. Stelton has explained,
Speaker:Sintostatias was a cultural
Speaker:crossroad, its identity shaped by the republic.
Speaker:Repeated shift in colonial rule. But
Speaker:unlike many European powers of the time,
Speaker:the Dutch colonial approach was notably
Speaker:different. See, for the Dutch colonies
Speaker:were often established not to spread Dutch
Speaker:culture or religion, but to create
Speaker:trading hubs. This emphasis on
Speaker:commerce rather than cultural assimilation
Speaker:meant that the Dutch allowed diversity of
Speaker:influence to thrive,
Speaker:focusing more on economic opportunity
Speaker:than enforcing a, uh, singular national
Speaker:identity. This approach left a, uh,
Speaker:lasting legacy on synthastatius,
Speaker:creating a cultural fabric that
Speaker:Blended regional and European influence in
Speaker:both visible and subtle ways.
Speaker:In the public sphere, we see the Dutch
Speaker:influence in the official language and
Speaker:governmental structures. Yet everyday
Speaker:life on Synthastatius reflects a
Speaker:multilingual and multicultural blend
Speaker:shaped by the practical need to trade and
Speaker:communicate across colonial lines.
Speaker:Even religion was often secondary to trade
Speaker:interest, allowing the Dutch to form
Speaker:unique alliances and networks within the
Speaker:Caribbean. Dr.
Speaker:Morsinks, an archaeologist with over
Speaker:two decades of experience in the Caribbean,
Speaker:including Centustacious, explains
Speaker:how the Dutch prioritized trade over
Speaker:cultural dominance. And
Speaker:this influenced not just the language, but the
Speaker:very foundation of the society on the
Speaker:island, impacting its economic
Speaker:systems, cultural practices, and even its
Speaker:social structures in ways that are still very
Speaker:evident today.
Speaker:>> Dr. Morsinks: Yeah, I think that the colonial effort
Speaker:by the Netherlands is very different from
Speaker:other countries like Spain, France or
Speaker:England. The Dutch emphasis was
Speaker:always on trade. The Dutch were targeting these
Speaker:relatively small islands. Other countries
Speaker:were really establishing new portions of
Speaker:that country elsewhere. So they
Speaker:wanted to engage with these larger islands. They wanted
Speaker:to incorporate that into their territory.
Speaker:The background of the colonial effort, I think for the Dutch was
Speaker:very different from these other European powers.
Speaker:For example, you can see in
Speaker:Suriname, um, but also in Stacia that you have one of the
Speaker:earliest synagogues there,
Speaker:because these other countries were really
Speaker:Catholic or the church of
Speaker:England, and they were really establishing
Speaker:the countries as well as the religion.
Speaker:If you look at the history of, for instance of Stacia,
Speaker:it gets changed so many times. And it's because the
Speaker:Dutch want to set up this trade network on
Speaker:this, um, tax free harbor.
Speaker:But the French and the English are finding their own
Speaker:fights right in the middle of that. But the
Speaker:Dutch are just like, let's keep trading. It didn't matter
Speaker:that much what kind of relation or, uh, background you were as long
Speaker:as you were trading and making money. The Dutch were happy.
Speaker:For instance, the French are very proud of their
Speaker:own culture and their language. And if you're
Speaker:establishing these other islands as part
Speaker:of your country, then you do a lot of effort about
Speaker:cultural education, cultural recordation.
Speaker:And I think you can still see that the
Speaker:French islands are very French
Speaker:at the same time as they are Caribbean, but they're very
Speaker:French and everything is French. And there's
Speaker:a lot of emphasis on culture, There's a lot
Speaker:of emphasis on education, which also
Speaker:means that a lot of things are just written down
Speaker:and, ah, more recorded where if your
Speaker:main emphasis is on trade
Speaker:and your governors are more focused on ensuring
Speaker:that there's money to be made than
Speaker:establishing this hallmark of Dutch
Speaker:quote unquote culture somewhere else,
Speaker:then there is less reason to educate
Speaker:people locally. There's less
Speaker:emphasis on that. There's also less emphasis on
Speaker:recordation because you're trying not to establish
Speaker:a hallmark of Dutch culture, but you're establishing
Speaker:trade posts to make money.
Speaker:>> Unidentified (Podcast Host): The Dutch approach to colonialism left a
Speaker:distinct mark on Stacia, creating an island
Speaker:of unique cultural dynamics. Unlike, um,
Speaker:other European powers, the Dutch prioritized
Speaker:trade, allowing a blend of influence
Speaker:to flourish. The result was a trading
Speaker:hub, which created a fusion of languages and
Speaker:cultures shaped over centuries of
Speaker:exchange with neighbors near and far.
Speaker:But what of the island's culture itself?
Speaker:The island's heritage inspector, Mr.
Speaker:Richardson, reflects on Stacia's culture
Speaker:the everyday customs, language, and
Speaker:memories that have lived on through its
Speaker:people.
Speaker:>> Mr. Richardson: The culture on Scintustius I would describe
Speaker:as almost being Phoenix like. I think
Speaker:it's a culture that continuously
Speaker:evolves, continuously changes. But I
Speaker:think there's still a lot of things rooted in the colonial
Speaker:past. But there's also a lot of things that
Speaker:people are not yet aware of, that a lot of the things
Speaker:people do, the way people speak, the way people
Speaker:pronounce things, is a lot of things, uh, came out
Speaker:of Africa. You know, it's like the
Speaker:enslaved ancestors may not have been able to travel with
Speaker:their belongings, but they did travel with
Speaker:memory. And memory is very strong. That's
Speaker:how we, as people, we learn things through memory. And, of course,
Speaker:out of the memory of the enslaved ancestors, many of
Speaker:that, many of those things became statistical
Speaker:culture. So I think stacious cultures are kind
Speaker:of unawarely
Speaker:doing stuff that we can explain, or we do not know where
Speaker:it comes from because it wasn't properly studied.
Speaker:>> Unidentified (Podcast Host): As we bring our episode to a close, we
Speaker:stand on the threshold of, uh, Stacia's rich, layered
Speaker:history. A, uh, history that pulses with
Speaker:resilience, transformation, and the power of
Speaker:memory. From colonial shifts to
Speaker:deep cultural exchanges, the island story
Speaker:is one of constant reinvention that reflects
Speaker:both its struggles and triumphs.
Speaker:These stories are more than just marks left by
Speaker:empires. They are also the subtle, profound
Speaker:contribution of women who have built,
Speaker:preserved, and nourished life here.
Speaker:Their voices, their whisper
Speaker:that history has almost forgotten. They called
Speaker:to us, urging us to see the
Speaker:island not just as a relic of past
Speaker:empires, but as a living canvas
Speaker:where women, families, and
Speaker:traditions have left its mark.
Speaker:Thank you for beginning this journey with us.
Speaker:In our walk forward, we look back to the
Speaker:indigenous communities of Stacia, and we
Speaker:meet the women whose wisdom, strength,
Speaker:and leadership were woven deeply into their
Speaker:communities. These were the first
Speaker:voices of the land who set the stage
Speaker:for all that was to come.